Man they would've been a much bigger favourite in this price range if they just kept it at the same price as the Azurys. Regardless, it still sounds like it's a great release.
Fantastic. This is as solid of a 10 minute review as you can ever get. Tells me everything I need to know. But man, is this tier getting clausterphobic, even for just Focal.
More competition is great for us and it's the right price-point to for these companies to be competing coz most people don't go above this price-point(nor should they tbh, 99% folk will be satisfied with any 700$ headphone lol)
Just bought it last week as my first open back focal and yes it suits my sound profile. Reminds me of the HD600/650 with bass shelf, staging and more details.
Is there nice warmth to the sound? I recently discovered that really it's the warmth in the sound that I prefer over crystalline clarity. I used to think I am a detail-snob, but nah, it's the warmth at the end of the day that make things more impactful
Thanks for making the video. I use the DT1990 for daily/studio use and the Elex as a pure pleasure headphone, whether the Hadenys replaces the Elex is the exact question I have. My only criticism of the Elex is that the bass at times feels a touch too lean to be fully immersive and at higher volumes they can bite, so it's good to see the bass is signifcantly increased with the Hadenys and they're generally smoother. The only doubts I have are whether they scratch the same itch as the Elex, which I feel have a beautifully detailed, delicate, graceful sound; also whether to go 109 Pro of course.
It would be nice to have your breakdown of the Stellia, even if you don’t enjoy the tuning of it. You have a good way of breaking things down that’s quite informative
But does the bass crack?? In your review of the Azurys you mention that they don't crack, but the problem was NEVER with the closed backs. I can drive my Elegia into the ground and they never pop. The Open Backs all pop and crack. Talking about cracking with closed backs and ignoring the opens automatically makes me think they either do crack, or you didn't test it. Do the Hadenys crack or pop with heavy bass?
I tried Hadenys a couple hours today. The comfort wasn't that great for my ears/head. Sound Quality is good but I would like a bigger soundstage and better Imaging/Separation. I keep my DT 1999 Pro.
I'm torn between this and the Audeze LCD-2 classic for my next set of cans. I currently have the Ananda and HD6xx with an Aune S9C and a tube amp. I'm going to be buying one of those in the next month or so and I just can't make up my mind...
Hi, what do you think about the Hifiman He-4XX in 2024? Since there's more cheaper planar magnetic headphones that came out after the 4XX, is it still better than all the planar magnetic headphones at the same price?
Love the content, Still trying to figure out what headphone to go with. Im sure you heard this before but you look just like Stephen Amell's Oliver Queen from green arrow. 😆
Hey kinda off topic but I was wondering what all I need for my audio setup... I have good pair of headphones and just recieved the topping a90D was wondering what else I need. Just the DAC? something like the D90. Some advice would be great! thanks
@@Trainwreckstv3tv Lmao, Hadenys hands down way better and I own them both the Hadenys have more texture in the bass very wide soundstage especially for a openback and focus in the treble with an excellent level of detail like 85% of the detail in the OG Clear which I also own, And they're as comfortable to wear as the 650. I would go with the Hadenys all day, but ofcourse eveyrone has a different ears/taste. @stealthelf5048 If you're looking to buy one of these 3 I would recommend checking them out in a store.
@@jamesstevens968 Pretty much I own them both and they're in a different league compared to the HD 650, these compete legit with 1000-1500 bucks headphones.
660s2 is really veiled when compared to the HD400. I like the bass but classical music is horrible. I just got the Hadenys and hope they will be better as they are compared to the 600/650.
The Hadenys is the sharpest, most sibilant, and plastic feeling headphones I've listened to. I tested Grado sr325x, Sennheisers hd 620s, hd 660s2, Focal Hadenys, Celestes, and Meze 99 Classics back to back, all in the same amp, and the Hadenys were immediately painful. I am super confused.
It's pretty sad when a $700 headphone is not considered a "high-end" headphone and is still made of plastic. You have to go to the Clear MG to get the real metal Focal experience.
I think the bass popping issue is massively overstated and is more than likely a production flaw on a small number of units. I've listened to Clears, Bathys and Elex's and none could be driven to clip or "pop" even at unreasonable volumes. Focal has sold a huge number of headphones and the vast majority of purchasers have not complained. I think they had very bad luck that a bad pair landed on Amir's test bench. His reviews have a ton of reach.
See the problem is I got my Elex at $400 on sale. These are $300 more for me and I don’t think I can justify that. The Elex coming from the Sundara? That’s a massive jump forward imo
Plus due to the higher impedance Elex pairs much better with tubes. Focal and Feliks amps are one of the good standards in the audio industry out of everything I’ve ever tried at CanJams.
These aren’t the only open back in this price range if you want something cheaper you could go for the senheuser hd600 but things like even the focal elex and hi-fi man sundara or édition xs are good options that are a little bit cheaper
Purchased the Bathys with no regrets and enjoying them immensely….so despite the curious price differential, look forward to a listen at the SoCal can jam. Thanks for the broadcast.
I don’t like the cheap looking plastic cups . The metal on the utopia Elex and in my opinion the jewel like appearance of the Clear OG are stunning and look expensive . Almost everyone makes plastic , but no one made anything that looked like the Clear OG with the mesh .
For someone that talks so much about the DT1990, he knows very little about it. The DT1990 has a massive treble peak, and I mean MASSIVE!!! It is one of the most treble forward sounding headphones on the market. Its not a good headphone to compare in terms of the treble forwardness… From a review from Resolve: ”The biggest issue is a large peak in excess of 11dB at 8.5k. The 8.5K peak also adds a sizzle-like quality to the sound, and it becomes very obvious when toggling EQ on and off. Lastly, it makes the consonants (S and T sounds in particular) incredibly sibilant and piercing to listen to.
Man that looks like garbage online but you nail your aesthetic too so I'm mixed. To me the first ques would be - did they fix their ongoing driver issue?
Didn't they only have QC / Driver issues with their Elex/Elear/Elegia lineup... AFAIK the Hadenys are fairly new to the market and could have faulty first batch or whatever they call that, but I have about 1000$ to spend for a headphone and I really want the best bang for my buck. I don't want to buy the Hadenys and then have its drivers fail on me, because its an expensive headphone. Will these headphones have the same QC/DRIVER issues as the Elex/Elear/Elegia (I beliveve I've heard some Clears having that too, but not too sure) or will these be more durable and have strong drivers that will last. I apologize for the many questions, but I just want to know as to not spend my money in the wrong place and get a broken product or one that will not last.
please man, get closer to ur sm7b and tone down the high-end 🙏it's a shame to be an audio-focused channel with such great production value apart from that!
Blind AB Balanced and not balanced. I have two balanced amps, and good balanced cables. I also have reasonable ears, I can't tell the difference when volume is equalized. JDS labs has provided tech information regarding balanced cabling if you are curious. They just released a balanced Element II+ but clearly begrudgingly and basically say so in the product documentation.
Hi thank you heaps for your Video ... I went last Week End in Melbourne , Australia to the "Stereo Net Show" where I discovered " Focal " Headphones the Clear Mg and the Utopia but they are way too Expensive ... the "Hadenys" was sadly not on Display.. I listen to mainly Orchestra Music and my No1 is " Eternal Eclipse " orchestra ua-cam.com/video/AhvjaYvjSVM/v-deo.htmlsi=PHvf2CgbIC9Fp7gP ... would you recommend me the " Focal Hadenys "for my Listening ? Please or have you another Open Back Headphone that you would strongly recommend me without going bankrupt ? Please Please Please
Man they would've been a much bigger favourite in this price range if they just kept it at the same price as the Azurys. Regardless, it still sounds like it's a great release.
Fantastic. This is as solid of a 10 minute review as you can ever get. Tells me everything I need to know. But man, is this tier getting clausterphobic, even for just Focal.
More competition is great for us and it's the right price-point to for these companies to be competing coz most people don't go above this price-point(nor should they tbh, 99% folk will be satisfied with any 700$ headphone lol)
Just bought it last week as my first open back focal and yes it suits my sound profile. Reminds me of the HD600/650 with bass shelf, staging and more details.
Is there nice warmth to the sound?
I recently discovered that really it's the warmth in the sound that I prefer over crystalline clarity. I used to think I am a detail-snob, but nah, it's the warmth at the end of the day that make things more impactful
@@ashishbarthwal6961 I want to know this too. Please share if you find out.
How is it for gaming
Thank you for the headphone review, Monsieur Valour!
Thanks for making the video. I use the DT1990 for daily/studio use and the Elex as a pure pleasure headphone, whether the Hadenys replaces the Elex is the exact question I have. My only criticism of the Elex is that the bass at times feels a touch too lean to be fully immersive and at higher volumes they can bite, so it's good to see the bass is signifcantly increased with the Hadenys and they're generally smoother. The only doubts I have are whether they scratch the same itch as the Elex, which I feel have a beautifully detailed, delicate, graceful sound; also whether to go 109 Pro of course.
It would be nice to have your breakdown of the Stellia, even if you don’t enjoy the tuning of it. You have a good way of breaking things down that’s quite informative
Hadenys is definitely harder to pronounce than Elex.
😂
Ha! Denny's. ez
@@hartyewh1 This has an option for me to translate it to english😂
it’s not really imo
I like all my focal headphones. My favorite is the Elex 👍
Great review! For those who have tried Hadenys, how does it compare to the Clear MG? Is Clear MG still worth it for twice the price?
But does the bass crack?? In your review of the Azurys you mention that they don't crack, but the problem was NEVER with the closed backs. I can drive my Elegia into the ground and they never pop. The Open Backs all pop and crack. Talking about cracking with closed backs and ignoring the opens automatically makes me think they either do crack, or you didn't test it. Do the Hadenys crack or pop with heavy bass?
I'm so interested in the Azurys. I am really enjoying the Audezee Maxwell but I would like a wired closed back headphone to connect to my gear.
How does it compare to the Clear Original?
I tried Hadenys a couple hours today. The comfort wasn't that great for my ears/head. Sound Quality is good but I would like a bigger soundstage and better Imaging/Separation. I keep my DT 1999 Pro.
Do Azurys - Hadenys perform similarly?
What about Hifiman Edition XS.
I can strech my budget to Azurys but not anymore.
The focal hadenys aren't much more than the Azurys go with the open back much better sound I'm just hoping the hadenys has enough strong bass.
How do the Azurys and Hadenys compare to the Radiance and Celestee?
I'm torn between this and the Audeze LCD-2 classic for my next set of cans. I currently have the Ananda and HD6xx with an Aune S9C and a tube amp. I'm going to be buying one of those in the next month or so and I just can't make up my mind...
How can you make a video comparing Focal headphones and not mention anything about its dynamics?
I did some Jiu Jitsu for a couple of years, nice shirt
Hello Joshua, between Hadenys and Clear which one do you prefer ? Thank you!
Hi josh are these good for video games and watching movies i have the focal elex but there kind of heavy are these better than the focal elex .
Do these Headphones sound good off of a M3 MacBook?
How does the bass compare to something like the HD58X? (Even with EQ) Is there more sub and mid bass?
Been looking forward to hearing these. I have Bathys. But i definitely fancy a nicer open back
what are the sonic differences between this model and the new sennheiser closed back 620s?
Hadenys or arya stealth??
Hi, what do you think about the Hifiman He-4XX in 2024? Since there's more cheaper planar magnetic headphones that came out after the 4XX, is it still better than all the planar magnetic headphones at the same price?
So wait for a sale... got it!
Love the content, Still trying to figure out what headphone to go with. Im sure you heard this before but you look just like Stephen Amell's Oliver Queen from green arrow. 😆
Can you test the Tago Studios T3-01? Japanese Headphones which should be in the same league as these.
Hey kinda off topic but I was wondering what all I need for my audio setup... I have good pair of headphones and just recieved the topping a90D was wondering what else I need. Just the DAC? something like the D90. Some advice would be great! thanks
If you had to choose between the 650hd/660s2 and the Hadynes, which would you prefer?
650 hands down
@@Trainwreckstv3tv Lmao, Hadenys hands down way better and I own them both the Hadenys have more texture in the bass very wide soundstage especially for a openback and focus in the treble with an excellent level of detail like 85% of the detail in the OG Clear which I also own, And they're as comfortable to wear as the 650. I would go with the Hadenys all day, but ofcourse eveyrone has a different ears/taste. @stealthelf5048 If you're looking to buy one of these 3 I would recommend checking them out in a store.
Focal hadenys it's a no brainer. Sennheiser 650 lacks bass.
@@jamesstevens968 Pretty much I own them both and they're in a different league compared to the HD 650, these compete legit with 1000-1500 bucks headphones.
660s2 is really veiled when compared to the HD400. I like the bass but classical music is horrible. I just got the Hadenys and hope they will be better as they are compared to the 600/650.
The Hadenys is the sharpest, most sibilant, and plastic feeling headphones I've listened to. I tested Grado sr325x, Sennheisers hd 620s, hd 660s2, Focal Hadenys, Celestes, and Meze 99 Classics back to back, all in the same amp, and the Hadenys were immediately painful.
I am super confused.
hadenys burn in is real. I had a similar response, now 2 days later after burn in they are half as sharp and bass is incredible. But i also use eq.
Try fio fa19 iem, waiting for a review
Voshua Jalour
It's pretty sad when a $700 headphone is not considered a "high-end" headphone and is still made of plastic. You have to go to the Clear MG to get the real metal Focal experience.
Just snagged a brand new pair off ebay for 400 bucks. These are my endgame for now
did they fix the bass popping issue with these also?
Yes they did. josh stated so in the Azurys video.
I think the bass popping issue is massively overstated and is more than likely a production flaw on a small number of units. I've listened to Clears, Bathys and Elex's and none could be driven to clip or "pop" even at unreasonable volumes. Focal has sold a huge number of headphones and the vast majority of purchasers have not complained. I think they had very bad luck that a bad pair landed on Amir's test bench. His reviews have a ton of reach.
See the problem is I got my Elex at $400 on sale. These are $300 more for me and I don’t think I can justify that. The Elex coming from the Sundara? That’s a massive jump forward imo
Plus due to the higher impedance Elex pairs much better with tubes. Focal and Feliks amps are one of the good standards in the audio industry out of everything I’ve ever tried at CanJams.
@@sleepyrhythms6668 I’ve wanted a tube amp for a while. Your convincing me to get one lol
Same. Got it for 450. Only other pair is 6XX.
I have more headphones than I can count, some very high end, and the Elex's sound fantastic to me. They offer amazing sound for the price.
I assume the Aune AR5000, at less than half the price, is not as good as this. But would be interested in a comparison.
Aune is fantastic. Haven’t tried this yet.
I like Focal, taking my Clear MGs on holliday with me :)
I have the Azurys and Bathys and did want the Hadenys as i’ve never owned an open back, Now i’m having second thoughts
These aren’t the only open back in this price range if you want something cheaper you could go for the senheuser hd600 but things like even the focal elex and hi-fi man sundara or édition xs are good options that are a little bit cheaper
Stick with Bathys for now. It's wireless and if I want to go serious I'll connect it via usb.
You can shape it, twist it however you want Josh, the OG Focal Clear is still the best. As an owner of one, I approve of your message.
Jiu jitsu dad? A hifier you don't want to mess with.
Purchased the Bathys with no regrets and enjoying them immensely….so despite the curious price differential, look forward to a listen at the SoCal can jam. Thanks for the broadcast.
I don’t like the cheap looking plastic cups . The metal on the utopia Elex and in my opinion the jewel like appearance of the Clear OG are stunning and look expensive . Almost everyone makes plastic , but no one made anything that looked like the Clear OG with the mesh .
ANOTHER FOCAL VIDEO?! WTF
Do not recommend to any trypophobia
For someone that talks so much about the DT1990, he knows very little about it. The DT1990 has a massive treble peak, and I mean MASSIVE!!!
It is one of the most treble forward sounding headphones on the market. Its not a good headphone to compare in terms of the treble forwardness…
From a review from Resolve: ”The biggest issue is a large peak in excess of 11dB at 8.5k. The 8.5K peak also adds a sizzle-like quality to the sound, and it becomes very obvious when toggling EQ on and off. Lastly, it makes the consonants (S and T sounds in particular) incredibly sibilant and piercing to listen to.
Ears are subjective, sound is subjective
A large treble peak of 11db at 8.5k is not subjective, its not suppose to be there… If you like that or not, thats subjective…
@@hpol3603perfectly stated.
@@hpol3603he does know about it, he even modified his pair with foam to reduce the peak
Man that looks like garbage online but you nail your aesthetic too so I'm mixed. To me the first ques would be - did they fix their ongoing driver issue?
Didn't they only have QC / Driver issues with their Elex/Elear/Elegia lineup... AFAIK the Hadenys are fairly new to the market and could have faulty first batch or whatever they call that, but I have about 1000$ to spend for a headphone and I really want the best bang for my buck. I don't want to buy the Hadenys and then have its drivers fail on me, because its an expensive headphone. Will these headphones have the same QC/DRIVER issues as the Elex/Elear/Elegia (I beliveve I've heard some Clears having that too, but not too sure) or will these be more durable and have strong drivers that will last. I apologize for the many questions, but I just want to know as to not spend my money in the wrong place and get a broken product or one that will not last.
hmmmm... clear is the same price as this. and also arya stealth, at least in your country. How is it possible that I know that and not the reviewer?
Giving me trypophobia
Uve never sounded more like a a paid hack than you did here
haha
Ouch. Just because he loves it?
Hi josh
please man, get closer to ur sm7b and tone down the high-end 🙏it's a shame to be an audio-focused channel with such great production value apart from that!
Aggregophobiac design.
Can't be used balanced unfortunately, a big pass for many of us.
Blind AB Balanced and not balanced. I have two balanced amps, and good balanced cables. I also have reasonable ears, I can't tell the difference when volume is equalized. JDS labs has provided tech information regarding balanced cabling if you are curious. They just released a balanced Element II+ but clearly begrudgingly and basically say so in the product documentation.
Oh no you can't use a 50ft cable without noise
No it really doesn't matter balanced or not you can't really tell the difference they sound the same
First
Hi thank you heaps for your Video ... I went last Week End in Melbourne , Australia to the "Stereo Net Show" where I discovered " Focal " Headphones the Clear Mg and the Utopia but they are way too Expensive ... the "Hadenys" was sadly not on Display.. I listen to mainly Orchestra Music and my No1 is " Eternal Eclipse " orchestra ua-cam.com/video/AhvjaYvjSVM/v-deo.htmlsi=PHvf2CgbIC9Fp7gP ... would you recommend me the " Focal Hadenys "for my Listening ? Please or have you another Open Back Headphone that you would strongly recommend me without going bankrupt ? Please Please Please