@@ResolveReviews hi, Out of the subject, but can you suggest any open back headphones with the same frequency response of the TRUTHEAR Zero:RED? Has the perfect frequency response for studio mixing and mastering. Thank you very much. *akg k371 doesn't sound the same.
The good thing about having an obnoxiously large head is that I can trust Resolve’s judgement on frequency response differences. Andrew and I are simply built different
I always appreciate seeing after-one-year or long-term reviews from a reviewer. There are many things that can only be noticed through actual, long-term use in daily life. However, 99% of reviewers, UA-camrs, or channels review brand-new products fresh out of the box without actually using them daily, yet claim to truly know the product. Thank you for this quality review! I hope you continue to do many more long-term reviews like this.
I read about them a lot and I want to say thank you especially for your forum thread. Ended up buying them and I love them both wireless and wired! They sound amazing!
It’s impressive how much Focal has upgraded these headphones since they originally released them. Some big firmware and software updates. First the dynamic EQ, and now these recent changes to setup custom profiles (which was life changing for me).
Recently purchased these for air travel & motorcycle trips but found myself listening through them at home all the time. Delivers that exciting Focal House sound you would expect, a good feature set and I found them to be super comfortable (the weight, negligible). Premium construction, they look like the exception and glad the case is low profile. They really took wireless into audiophile territory and look forward to where they take the line.
I have some high frequency hearing loss, and the Bathys' sound personalization feature works amazingly well in adjusting the EQ to correct for my hearing loss. These are by far my favorite headphone to use at home or on public transportation.
I hate to admit it, but my Bathys have pretty much replaced the rest of my headphone collection. Their sound and convenience make them my go to option now. I'm getting too lazy to get tied to my desk with a dac/amp for listening😄
@@albhem_eh Yes. It supports AptX Adaptive which supports the same bit rate as LDAC (24/96kHz). Confusingly, AptX HD has a lower max bit rate at 24/48kHz than AptX Adaptive can support 🙃
I have been enjoying the Bathys, The PX8 and the H95 for one year now, and I love them all. However, I think I prefer the Bathys overall. The PX8 had some built issues and is the one showing the most tear and wear. It is still very fun. The B&O is lassy, and well built, though like the PX8 I had an issue with the headband and B&O replaced them for free. I love the sound of the H95, punchy and detailed. But the Bathys is just amazing in terms of comfort and sound quality. Also, the easiest to use, as the H95 has some connection bugs at times, and so did the PX8. Design-wise, the H95 is the winner, though the Bathys has grown on me over time, and its build quality is amazing.
I got my Dune edition last week and I really love them. My Sennheiser ANC headphones failed after many years and my Sennheiser analog wired headphones are not really their high end. I have a set of new Apple AirPod Pro 2 that were what I used mostly. This Bathys has ruled them all. I use them in wired DAC mode when sitting at my desk, wireless otherwise. ANC is great as I am trying to work, certainly good enough as you say. The Airpods have been be demoted to exercise time only.
I bought these pretty much the first day they were available. Very pleased. I have the Clear and i find I use the Bathys much more than the clear. Different sound to be sure but the Bathys are now my first choice.
I've been saying all this time, Radiance is just better than the clear. Radiance is just a limited product and rare to come by, so people were skeptical. Bathys proved it
I have to say, the Mimi "ear customisation" integration is really worth doing. I did it with some caution, but it really lifts them. I'm a DSP convert on that front. The Bathys are like my Clears ... but I can use them wirelessly and they're WAY more relaxed sounding, which means I can wear the Bathys longer. Yes, the SQ isn't up there with the Clear ... but I was looking for a "Clear on the go" and I feel I found it. My Elegia are nowhere near the quality of Bathys.
The big deal breaker for me with this headphone is you can only chose between ANC and Transparent mode… what if I don’t want either cause wind is too strong? If they fix that I’d probably buy one.
Don't really understand why you wouldn't want the ANC on when the wind is present? I understand not wanting transparent mode, but the ANC mode isn't bringing wind noise in. It might not be effective at cutting out it, but at least on the Bathy's, it's not amplifying it.
I think i’ve watched every Bathys review now. Watching this for the third time now. Super excited to get mine next week, i hope they can handle the expectation ive got because of the reviews 😩
@@FormerlyknownasTHey, no battery issues. I didnt use them very often tbh :( The Sound is amazing when its connected to something with the cable but bluetooth is only good Id say. I wanted to use them for the gym and on daily basis. Cant really use them in the gym because when u run the sound is getting weird ans u cant wear them the whole day because the werent comfy enough for me. 4 Month ago they got stolen :( and now im using Airpods and I dont miss anything :)
@@jannis4424 thanks for getting back to me .. Sorry to hear they got stolen .. I think I'll wait and see if A.I. Will improve Bluetooth 😄 Thanks again , appreciate the honesty 😎
I've been using mine religiously anytime I go somewhere in my truck. It's an old beater so the radio doesn't work and driving it is a little loud. After like six months still going strong.
Love my Bathys, use them all the time. I have two main qualms: 1) I usually listen over Bluetooth, and the volume adjustment distances are too large. It's either too quiet or too loud, which personally has been a struggle to deal with (and seemingly not too difficult to fix) 2) ANC/Transparent mode only. I would love to have the option to turn it off completely. That feeling of pressure from the ANC gets to be too much for me sometimes
@@xl5man Ikr?? I'm glad other people are experiencing this too. If Focal ever fixes that issue, I do highly recommend the bathys. The new EQ features are outstanding
I too have found that I generally prefer tws/nc earphones when I'm out in public vs higher end IEMs bc the noise canceling offers more benefit than the sheer technical ability of the higher end options. I'm not sure, though, that I think Bathys offers any substantial benefit vs a tws earbud?
Convenience is king when traveling and EDC uses, that's why airpods is people's favorite IEMs for a while, even DMS admit he use it 90% of the time compared to his other gears.
I can't bring myself to buy active headphones with batteries that aren't user replaceable. I understand that that is a nontrivial problem to solve but I don't care. Figure it out, headphone-makers!
Have to comment again on this great Headphone. I received it now and am listening to the FF VII Remake OST Symphony Orchestrated game music... I am literally crying on how great the sound on this Headphone is, and i havent even got myself a good DAP as well as the application for this Headphone to download the update. This is just perfection! Thanks for your review and the great work again.
04:40 I love my Bathys, but the ear cups aren’t angled inside like my Bose QC, and also the ear pads are flat, not angled, so the Bathys touches my ear, and I’m not a fan of that at all. If Focal would produce an angled ear pad I’d be on cloud nine! For me, that’s the only real drawback of this headphone.
Noise cancelling is a mess in this headphone. As you said, when moving around, it feels like the headphone is bouncing up and down your head,which i think comes from a poor seal of the pads. Because no matter how tight I try to adjust them, they still feel loose. And they get worse. I rode the subway and all the buzzing from the train not only did it leak in, but it felt like it was being amplified. It was unbearable. What i did was to tune down the noise cancelling to a middle level and it sort of fixed the issue. But still, they are not good to go out and about, which is a bit missing the point from ANC heapdhones. I hope they can do something via a firmware update
It’s weird that you find that because my ears get a decent deal despite having a pretty large head. I do have to say that the middle frequencies like talking and what note aren’t really blocked out and that may be why you heard more of the train.
The headband is too short for those who have a normal big head. I had to return this. I'm not the only one. I found several people who had similar issues from replies. Unfortunately, no reviewer points this out. I did not have any size issue with any other headphones.
Hey resolve wanted to ask if you think the bathys is better than audeze maxwell,i'm looking for something wireless,i don't care all that much about the noise canceling feature because i'm gonna use it mostly in home,the main thing here is sound quality
I actually think it comes down to comfort more than anything else. If you can handle a heavier headphone, there's a good argument in favor of the Maxwell. But I wear headphones all day, and for that the Bathys is definitely better. Also, if you prefer a more relaxed, thicker lower midrange kind of sound, go Bathys, if you prefer a more clarity-focused presentation go Maxwell (stronger ear gain).
thank you!,i have the hd800s and no matter how much i eq them i feel like i can't get enough punch from them,will the bathys provide it? cause i saw in your review of the maxwell that it doesn't have that punch as well@@ResolveReviews
@@barlevi5683 not as much as a clear or utopia, if we're thinking of the same quality. But yeah I think the bass is better on the Bathys compared to HD 800... but totally different headphones with very different sound
@@barlevi5683 i bought Dan clark aren 2 noir before look up the bathys. and asked a guy who had tried both of them and he recommended me the Dan clark. i personally feel good, but never get the chance to try bathys. and the Dan clark the voice is so small when i was just got it. but and searched it on the online and solved it. i thought bathys probablly better?
Had both and returned the T+A. They sound good to me but they're not as comfortable, they don't feel like full sized headphones as compared to the Bathys. I also prefer the sound on the Bathys, but that's perhaps because I'm very used to it now.
Would be great to get some reviews on the mic / call quality. The little section in this video seemed decent, but would love to see some call testing in different environments, as well as sitting at desk and doing calls in Zoom/Teams etc. Wired vs Bluetooth. I would have thought that most folk buying these would have one eye on music, but the other on work (to pay for the damn things 😂)
Can you compare the earpad opening on the Bathys to the traditional closed-back Focals? I had a pair of Elegias and found that the opening was a bit too small for my big audiophile ears. LOL
You wear glasses, do you have any seal issues while using these? I have B&W headphones that break seal pretty easily, and I have similar frames to you.
the software update does also apply to the none dune edtition i assume?! Anyway thanks for the nice review on bowers and wilkins, lewinson and the focal. I am not interested in comparing headphones technology, drivers, features and so on for hours through, but do respect the ever growing community which offers a brief detailed overwiev and opinion, whichever is the best headphone on the market, so i could make up my mind on what headphone suits my needs in roughly under an hour. Big thanks for that.
Yep the software update is for all versions of the Bathys. You don’t have to worry about missing out as the new Focal Dune color way is just a new look to the Bathys, they simply released a big update at the same time they released the Dune edition.
I have compared Focal Bathys and Focal Celestee, and despite the Bathys sounds good, Celestee sounds even better. With more room feeling, more energy, more details. And I can't say that Bathys is more comfortable. Their pads are softer, but not as big as at Celestee. And clamp forse of Celestee was not very strong, though I have a big audiophile head too))
Dude I love lights, they flex so much ... I like new color but original is still going strong. Agree with you,, these are all-day headphones, comfortable, excellent battery and everything. If anything, they should make a charging stand for headphones in the future, that would be nice touch.
Nice review. I'm wondering, however, if the noise cancelling issue you sensed while walking around might be helped by trying the weaker setting, as maybe it won't try so hard to compensate. Just a thought that came to my head when you were mentiong it.
HUGE DISCOUNT on the original Focal Bathys here in New Zealand and Australia at the moment. 45% off aint no joke and a steal. Just sold my Airpods Max for $650 and bought the Bathys for $820 ❤ $170 dollar upgrade
I am by no means an Audiofile but I loved the look of these headphones but not at $1200AU. I was waiting to see if Apple was going to release the Airpod Max 2. Then I also found these Focal Bathys on sale and just had them delivered today for $650... 100 bucks less than the Airpods Max's are going for now and 100 more than the XM5'S. 2 hours in and I am loving them👌
Friend from work let me try these for a bit and I ended up using bathys the whole day. I wear XM5s everywhere I go and was shocked by the huge difference in audio. Friend then tells me they're 650 and not like 1350. I bought them. Xm5 are now just gym headphones
My dune colored Bathys is coming in tomorrow morning (IM SO EXCITED BRUH)! I'm assuming that soft/firmware updates are via the tailored app, yes? Was just wondering as it seems like the new updates are imperative for the Bathys.
The Bathys are quite placement sensitive. I've found with my big head and weird ear canals, angling the front of the front of the cups outward a bit with most of the pressure behind the ears gives me the sound I'm looking for with the comfort to boot.
@@patrickmartineau1008usually with large drivers, shifting the headphone can affect the sound such as the Hifiman Arya or HE1000 but since the drivers are much smaller on the Bathys, it should not matter how you place the headphones…it is weird that you get such different sound effects
I just bought a pair of these. I find them exceptionally good. Certainly a massive step up from my ageing Ferrari Cavalino T350i’s - fine tuning them with the sound test and EQ modes really helped. I did find the listening to really complex music whilst travelling on a bus with the silent noise reduction switched on did produce some odd effects which disappeared when I switched to soft noise reduction. At home I don’t need the noise reduction which sounds the best to my ears.
How can an audiophile Bluetooth headphone not have LDAC? I love Andrews reviews, but I'm surprised he doesn't even mention it. I believe the Maxwell has LDAC for less than half the price.
I just wanted to add a bit of a PSA that Richer sounds who I purchased my Focal Bathy headphones from have been in touch with Focal and Focal have informed Richer sounds that's the battery is not replaceable at all. When the battery goes it cannot be serviced.
Just got these last week, £150 discount from richer sounds :). Starting to love them. Everything just works. got them paired with two devices at the same time and they just switch. perfect. I am looking for a good cable for USB lisening though, the one supplied is too short for me.
I love mine but the BIGGEST issue I have is the sounds it keeps making 'beeping and door knocks' during phone calls on an iPhone. Focal has ignore my pleas for help too which doesn't bode well with me
Thanks for the review! I'm getting my Bathys the day after tomorrow and after playing with a demo unit a bit I was left disappointed with a very basic EQ functionality of the official app. So my question is - what do you recommend to use for EQ with an Android phone, is there a good app for that?
I may be getting a pair in the next week, and I'm super excited...but to answer your question, I use Wavelet on my Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra for EQ purposes and I've been very happy with it
@conroyscott2206 thanks! As of today I've already sold my Bathys, no EQ magic could ultimately fix the sound for me. I am now a very happy owner of Dali io-12, these headphones are just sublime, just another league
Thank you for this informative review. I am considering replacing my BOSE QC45 headphones with these Focal Bathys headphones, due to a consistent crackling in the left ear cup of my BOSE. The QC45's are not even 2 years old and BOSE is not responding to my Emails. How would these Focal headphones compare to the QC45's. Thank you in advance.
@@RafiGishyeah…Sennheiser has some work to do on their ANC headphones. While the Momentum 3’s are tuned decent, the Momentum 4’s are horribly tuned. They have more bass than the Bose 😂
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Fact: the regular coloured Batys sounds great and I now use it instead of the Celestee for casual listening. Fact: If you wear your Batys in the Dune Universe, it will cause your eyes to glow a deep blue, even in DAC mode.
Why would you use these with a DAC and cable vs. bluetooth? Is there a difference in sound quality? I own the Bathy but want to know if I'm missing anything by not using them with a DAC.
I actually don’t find Female Voices to be too harsh. And yes there is a 5 band eq with 1khz and 4khz with db adjustments and half db up to I think 5 or 6 or -5 or -6 maximum. The MIMI personalization could definitely be a game changer depending on your ears and considering punch not only has to do with the bass frequencies but also the initial “punch” and upper frequencies which the MIMI personalization can do. Also the Bass on the Bathys is almost perfect for a closed back IMO and has the right balance between fun but also having great texture and slam without sounding bloated.
I got scared when i saw that title. I thought it might come with a better driver or something, having bought the Bathys only a couple of weeks ago... ooofff. Cheeers
When I received my Bathys almost a year ago I was really disappointed in my purchase especially for the price. The Focal punch and detail wasn’t there. But as I used it more and more the drivers must have broken in and loosened up and they’re a fantastic portable. I use a lightning to usb c OTG cable and quality steps up tremendously with lossless source music versus Bluetooth but the Bluetooth is convenient and sound pretty good as well.
Hi mate. Can you explain what OTG means? I tried a standard white Apple lightning to usb cable for my iPhone with my bathys but couldn’t get a sound 😢. Any help appreciated ! Cheers
@@rockon856 OTG or On The Go cables tell the iPhone to become the source host device on the lightning side so it can connect to the USB DAC in the bathys (or I use it with a Schiit DAC) as a destination device. Without it your regular usb c to lightning connected DAC both sides are destination and nothing happens. I use inexpensive OTG cables from Meenova on the usual mass online store.
As someone with big but not huge ears, I have to say im pretty frustrated by the reviews of all Focals claiming how great they are. They are some of the least roomy headphones I have ever tried on. The closed versions are completely unwearable. For a portable headphone, flat not fitting a large number of people should disqualify it from being claimed as "the best". Other portable headphones have figured out how to be small and lightweight while at least allowing a modicum of comfort, or at least not outright discomfort (Sony, Bose)
True but tbh, these still have better ear space. All the other Manufacturing like Bose and Sony make the ear pads sit on top of the ears. That is why these are huge looking compared to Bose. Another option is the Aipods Max as I’ve heard about the ear space being pretty big.
Like others on this thread, I had to send them back because they were too small, which never happened with any other headphone. I seem to have a relatively large head, but not a super-large head. I have a hard time understanding why they cannot add some moderate further extension for the headband.
That’s weird because I’ve found the headband to be quite big. I have a pretty large head and have the click increments at 6 out of 8. Of course they look absolutely wack considering I need to use such a large setting but the sound quality really is unlike no other for Noise Cancelling Headphones.
Please please tell me. Did they add an “off” mode to the noise canceling? The ANC kinda sucks on a bumpy bus I take in commute which caused me to return them. The sound is magnificent though
My Airpods Max died suddenly, (after 2,5 years) so I had to look for something ew. After trying Sony XM5, B&W PX8 (really bad sound for its price) and Momentum 4 (seriously a sony-killer and THE budget option), I went for the Bathys, though I really miss the Airpods ANC and Buttons, the Sound is a good step up and the design has grown on me. Now I hope, that they refine the ANC. When I really need silence, I go for my Airpods Pro 2 as they run circles around the Bathys ANC.
One thing to keep in mind with the Dune edition is that lighter colorways can get more noticeably discolored or darker over time.
Resolve trying to keep the Dune stash to himself... Nice try
@@sto-humanfriendly yes. I want them all!
Learn from Leica: It's called patina!
@@ResolveReviews hi,
Out of the subject, but can you suggest any open back headphones with the same frequency response of the TRUTHEAR Zero:RED?
Has the perfect frequency response for studio mixing and mastering.
Thank you very much.
*akg k371 doesn't sound the same.
The good thing about having an obnoxiously large head is that I can trust Resolve’s judgement on frequency response differences. Andrew and I are simply built different
I always appreciate seeing after-one-year or long-term reviews from a reviewer. There are many things that can only be noticed through actual, long-term use in daily life. However, 99% of reviewers, UA-camrs, or channels review brand-new products fresh out of the box without actually using them daily, yet claim to truly know the product. Thank you for this quality review! I hope you continue to do many more long-term reviews like this.
I read about them a lot and I want to say thank you especially for your forum thread. Ended up buying them and I love them both wireless and wired! They sound amazing!
It’s impressive how much Focal has upgraded these headphones since they originally released them. Some big firmware and software updates. First the dynamic EQ, and now these recent changes to setup custom profiles (which was life changing for me).
I just purchased a pair of the Bathys. Fantastic sound. And the personal EQ makes all the difference.
Indeed.
Hey @Fofopho ..
How are the batteries holding up ?
Are these updates only for/on units shipped after the update?
Recently purchased these for air travel & motorcycle trips but found myself listening through them at home all the time. Delivers that exciting Focal House sound you would expect, a good feature set and I found them to be super comfortable (the weight, negligible). Premium construction, they look like the exception and glad the case is low profile. They really took wireless into audiophile territory and look forward to where they take the line.
I have some high frequency hearing loss, and the Bathys' sound personalization feature works amazingly well in adjusting the EQ to correct for my hearing loss. These are by far my favorite headphone to use at home or on public transportation.
I hate to admit it, but my Bathys have pretty much replaced the rest of my headphone collection. Their sound and convenience make them my go to option now. I'm getting too lazy to get tied to my desk with a dac/amp for listening😄
That’s why I love my btr7
Same in my case. I'm not using any others of my headphones, some of which cost a lot more.
I _really_ like this color scheme, and with how much I love my Bathys, I am so torn on wether to get these
Did it get LDAC or any other high res codec in a firmware update?
@@albhem_eh Yes. It supports AptX Adaptive which supports the same bit rate as LDAC (24/96kHz). Confusingly, AptX HD has a lower max bit rate at 24/48kHz than AptX Adaptive can support 🙃
@@albhem_eh doesn't matter
@@ydid687 So... answers no? *groans* guess it's better to go for Audeze Maxwell
I have been enjoying the Bathys, The PX8 and the H95 for one year now, and I love them all. However, I think I prefer the Bathys overall.
The PX8 had some built issues and is the one showing the most tear and wear. It is still very fun. The B&O is lassy, and well built, though like the PX8 I had an issue with the headband and B&O replaced them for free. I love the sound of the H95, punchy and detailed. But the Bathys is just amazing in terms of comfort and sound quality. Also, the easiest to use, as the H95 has some connection bugs at times, and so did the PX8.
Design-wise, the H95 is the winner, though the Bathys has grown on me over time, and its build quality is amazing.
Sad to hear about Bowers and Wilkins build quality. I was planning to buy the PX8 but now I've read multiple negative posts on their durability.
I got my Dune edition last week and I really love them. My Sennheiser ANC headphones failed after many years and my Sennheiser analog wired headphones are not really their high end. I have a set of new Apple AirPod Pro 2 that were what I used mostly.
This Bathys has ruled them all. I use them in wired DAC mode when sitting at my desk, wireless otherwise. ANC is great as I am trying to work, certainly good enough as you say. The Airpods have been be demoted to exercise time only.
A comparison between the Focal Bathys and the T + A Solitaire T would be very interesting.
T solitaire sounds better
@@GEFELICITEERD45Why?
@@GEFELICITEERD45you should have said… personally I think the T + A Solitaire T sounds better.
@@GEFELICITEERD45costs triple
@@richardrever6154 yes hahaha
I bought these pretty much the first day they were available. Very pleased. I have the Clear and i find I use the Bathys much more than the clear. Different sound to be sure but the Bathys are now my first choice.
I've been saying all this time, Radiance is just better than the clear. Radiance is just a limited product and rare to come by, so people were skeptical. Bathys proved it
I have to say, the Mimi "ear customisation" integration is really worth doing. I did it with some caution, but it really lifts them. I'm a DSP convert on that front. The Bathys are like my Clears ... but I can use them wirelessly and they're WAY more relaxed sounding, which means I can wear the Bathys longer. Yes, the SQ isn't up there with the Clear ... but I was looking for a "Clear on the go" and I feel I found it. My Elegia are nowhere near the quality of Bathys.
The big deal breaker for me with this headphone is you can only chose between ANC and Transparent mode… what if I don’t want either cause wind is too strong? If they fix that I’d probably buy one.
Don't really understand why you wouldn't want the ANC on when the wind is present? I understand not wanting transparent mode, but the ANC mode isn't bringing wind noise in. It might not be effective at cutting out it, but at least on the Bathy's, it's not amplifying it.
@@Chronospherics I don't know about the Bathys specifically but for most ANC headphones/earbuds, wind confuses the ANC mics and makes an awful noise
@@naunau311have to agree with this. The only ANC headphone I’ve owned that performed ‘somewhat’ well with this was the Sony XM4.
@@Chronospherics often times strong wind confuses ANC and causes weird sounds… same with other random sounds like cymbals when I’m drumming.
"I'm the personification of beige" you should put that on your dating profile bro
I think i’ve watched every Bathys review now. Watching this for the third time now. Super excited to get mine next week, i hope they can handle the expectation ive got because of the reviews 😩
I just ordered them for my son for Xmas. Can't wait to test them out, I have the clear mg and celestee so im curious how they stack up.
@@mikew9788Hi! Did you managed to compare them with the Celestee?
Hey @jannis .. how are they holding up .. any battery issues ?
@@FormerlyknownasTHey, no battery issues. I didnt use them very often tbh :(
The Sound is amazing when its connected to something with the cable but bluetooth is only good Id say.
I wanted to use them for the gym and on daily basis. Cant really use them in the gym because when u run the sound is getting weird ans u cant wear them the whole day because the werent comfy enough for me.
4 Month ago they got stolen :( and now im using Airpods and I dont miss anything :)
@@jannis4424 thanks for getting back to me ..
Sorry to hear they got stolen ..
I think I'll wait and see if A.I. Will improve Bluetooth 😄
Thanks again , appreciate the honesty 😎
I've been using mine religiously anytime I go somewhere in my truck. It's an old beater so the radio doesn't work and driving it is a little loud. After like six months still going strong.
Love my Bathys, use them all the time. I have two main qualms:
1) I usually listen over Bluetooth, and the volume adjustment distances are too large. It's either too quiet or too loud, which personally has been a struggle to deal with (and seemingly not too difficult to fix)
2) ANC/Transparent mode only. I would love to have the option to turn it off completely. That feeling of pressure from the ANC gets to be too much for me sometimes
I agree, and that pressure is the reason I mostly use the lighter ANC mode
I tried them and returned them just because of those volume increments .. far too coarse ..
@@xl5man Ikr?? I'm glad other people are experiencing this too. If Focal ever fixes that issue, I do highly recommend the bathys. The new EQ features are outstanding
Seeing reviews mostly reving about Momentum 4s and Focal Bathys as the best sounding headsets for audiophiles, im ordering for both. 😂
Any favorite between the two? I’ve got the M4s. Love the sound quality but the headband is so uncomfortable.
I too have found that I generally prefer tws/nc earphones when I'm out in public vs higher end IEMs bc the noise canceling offers more benefit than the sheer technical ability of the higher end options. I'm not sure, though, that I think Bathys offers any substantial benefit vs a tws earbud?
Ditto, I prefer 3ANC over my maxwell.
Maybe comfort is a benefit? Which TWS earbud is most comfortable for you? That's what bothers me about earbuds and even some headphones.
Convenience is king when traveling and EDC uses, that's why airpods is people's favorite IEMs for a while, even DMS admit he use it 90% of the time compared to his other gears.
😢 I just bought Focal Bathys (original one) 4 months ago...
I really love the new color. I'm willing to sell it second hand for the new color.😂
I'm still debating it lol
how much?
The price is justified looking at that beautiful headphone. Top notch audio quality too for its segment, I don't doubt it.
I can't bring myself to buy active headphones with batteries that aren't user replaceable. I understand that that is a nontrivial problem to solve but I don't care. Figure it out, headphone-makers!
They've said it is replaceable. Whether it is USER replaceable, that I'm not sure about yet.
If it is, it should be in the manual, right?@@ResolveReviews
I would buy non replaceable battery headphones but not for 700 lol
What ANC with user replaceable batteries are there now days? It's the reason why I'm still stuck with my Bose QC25.
Focal charges $100 for labor and $100 for the battery
Have to comment again on this great Headphone. I received it now and am listening to the FF VII Remake OST Symphony Orchestrated game music...
I am literally crying on how great the sound on this Headphone is, and i havent even got myself a good DAP as well as the application for this Headphone to download the update.
This is just perfection!
Thanks for your review and the great work again.
You're pathetic
Bathys is great, but they should really fix the volume increments that are too abrupt. Hard to set just the right loudness.
I have these..I also have Stellia ordered. If the Stella's sound so much better than the Bathys I will be thrilled..The Bathys sound is impressive...
04:40 I love my Bathys, but the ear cups aren’t angled inside like my Bose QC, and also the ear pads are flat, not angled, so the Bathys touches my ear, and I’m not a fan of that at all. If Focal would produce an angled ear pad I’d be on cloud nine! For me, that’s the only real drawback of this headphone.
Noise cancelling is a mess in this headphone. As you said, when moving around, it feels like the headphone is bouncing up and down your head,which i think comes from a poor seal of the pads. Because no matter how tight I try to adjust them, they still feel loose. And they get worse. I rode the subway and all the buzzing from the train not only did it leak in, but it felt like it was being amplified. It was unbearable. What i did was to tune down the noise cancelling to a middle level and it sort of fixed the issue. But still, they are not good to go out and about, which is a bit missing the point from ANC heapdhones. I hope they can do something via a firmware update
Sounds like you have a small head problem. 😅
It’s weird that you find that because my ears get a decent deal despite having a pretty large head. I do have to say that the middle frequencies like talking and what note aren’t really blocked out and that may be why you heard more of the train.
You must not have a big head .
The headband is too short for those who have a normal big head. I had to return this. I'm not the only one. I found several people who had similar issues from replies. Unfortunately, no reviewer points this out. I did not have any size issue with any other headphones.
Let's hope they will add LDAC as they hinted in the past with the original pair are there any news about that??
That would be wonderful. Do firmware upgrades allow for added BT codecs?
Hey resolve wanted to ask if you think the bathys is better than audeze maxwell,i'm looking for something wireless,i don't care all that much about the noise canceling feature because i'm gonna use it mostly in home,the main thing here is sound quality
I actually think it comes down to comfort more than anything else. If you can handle a heavier headphone, there's a good argument in favor of the Maxwell. But I wear headphones all day, and for that the Bathys is definitely better. Also, if you prefer a more relaxed, thicker lower midrange kind of sound, go Bathys, if you prefer a more clarity-focused presentation go Maxwell (stronger ear gain).
thank you!,i have the hd800s and no matter how much i eq them i feel like i can't get enough punch from them,will the bathys provide it? cause i saw in your review of the maxwell that it doesn't have that punch as well@@ResolveReviews
@@barlevi5683 not as much as a clear or utopia, if we're thinking of the same quality. But yeah I think the bass is better on the Bathys compared to HD 800... but totally different headphones with very different sound
@@barlevi5683 Try using an OTL tube amp with your HD800s. That will get more bass out of them.
@@barlevi5683 i bought Dan clark aren 2 noir before look up the bathys. and asked a guy who had tried both of them and he recommended me the Dan clark. i personally feel good, but never get the chance to try bathys. and the Dan clark the voice is so small when i was just got it. but and searched it on the online and solved it.
i thought bathys probablly better?
Nothing softer than the utopia ear pads. Maybe you mean more density? Fantastic long term review!
I'm also curious if you've checked out the T+A Solitaire T. I've been listening to that for the last couple weeks and I'm pretty impressed
That one is on my radar for sure.
Clamps too hard
Had both and returned the T+A. They sound good to me but they're not as comfortable, they don't feel like full sized headphones as compared to the Bathys. I also prefer the sound on the Bathys, but that's perhaps because I'm very used to it now.
Would be great to get some reviews on the mic / call quality. The little section in this video seemed decent, but would love to see some call testing in different environments, as well as sitting at desk and doing calls in Zoom/Teams etc. Wired vs Bluetooth. I would have thought that most folk buying these would have one eye on music, but the other on work (to pay for the damn things 😂)
Can you compare the earpad opening on the Bathys to the traditional closed-back Focals? I had a pair of Elegias and found that the opening was a bit too small for my big audiophile ears. LOL
You wear glasses, do you have any seal issues while using these? I have B&W headphones that break seal pretty easily, and I have similar frames to you.
the software update does also apply to the none dune edtition i assume?!
Anyway thanks for the nice review on bowers and wilkins, lewinson and the focal.
I am not interested in comparing headphones technology, drivers, features and so on for hours through, but do respect the ever growing community which offers a brief detailed overwiev and opinion, whichever is the best headphone on the market, so i could make up my mind on what headphone suits my needs in roughly under an hour.
Big thanks for that.
Yep the software update is for all versions of the Bathys. You don’t have to worry about missing out as the new Focal Dune color way is just a new look to the Bathys, they simply released a big update at the same time they released the Dune edition.
I have compared Focal Bathys and Focal Celestee, and despite the Bathys sounds good, Celestee sounds even better. With more room feeling, more energy, more details. And I can't say that Bathys is more comfortable. Their pads are softer, but not as big as at Celestee. And clamp forse of Celestee was not very strong, though I have a big audiophile head too))
The celestee are a full sized passive headphone, they of course sound superior :)
2:03 is that spotify?
Resolve, how do the units sound when listening through the USB-C and internal DAC? You briefly mention it but do not go into detail. Thanks.
I’m deciding between these and Audeze Maxwell. Will use for both music and movies.
So does the dune one differ from the black model on features given the update you mentioned?
Dude I love lights, they flex so much ... I like new color but original is still going strong. Agree with you,, these are all-day headphones, comfortable, excellent battery and everything.
If anything, they should make a charging stand for headphones in the future, that would be nice touch.
About the update with the personalization feature: is that saved on the headphone when connected to different devices?
Need to review the Bose QuietComfort Ultra Headphones.
Love what you're doing bud! Are you still using these headphones? Focal Bathys
Focal Bathys vs B&W Px8? I am a huge fan of bowers and wilkins but I would like the comparison lol
Are there any plans to review the Zeus Elite? Thanks in advance.
Not at the moment
Nice review. I'm wondering, however, if the noise cancelling issue you sensed while walking around might be helped by trying the weaker setting, as maybe it won't try so hard to compensate. Just a thought that came to my head when you were mentiong it.
HUGE DISCOUNT on the original Focal Bathys here in New Zealand and Australia at the moment. 45% off aint no joke and a steal. Just sold my Airpods Max for $650 and bought the Bathys for $820 ❤ $170 dollar upgrade
Grabbed a pair of Utopia 2022 for an absolute steal (relative to MSRP). Couldn't be happier.
I am by no means an Audiofile but I loved the look of these headphones but not at $1200AU. I was waiting to see if Apple was going to release the Airpod Max 2. Then I also found these Focal Bathys on sale and just had them delivered today for $650... 100 bucks less than the Airpods Max's are going for now and 100 more than the XM5'S. 2 hours in and I am loving them👌
@rocket0123 yeah Apples slow on releases.I stayed Android my last upgrade.
Friend from work let me try these for a bit and I ended up using bathys the whole day. I wear XM5s everywhere I go and was shocked by the huge difference in audio. Friend then tells me they're 650 and not like 1350. I bought them. Xm5 are now just gym headphones
Spewing I didn't know about these back then :( Im wanting a pair so bad but too expensive. Who was selling them at that price?
Focal Bathys VS Audeze Maxwell ?
I heard the Maxwell build quality is terrible and no ANC
@@btam83build quality is solid, but no anc or carrying case. More meant for gaming/office vs travel
Thanks for this Andrew, much appreciated
My dune colored Bathys is coming in tomorrow morning (IM SO EXCITED BRUH)! I'm assuming that soft/firmware updates are via the tailored app, yes? Was just wondering as it seems like the new updates are imperative for the Bathys.
Could you please give a comparison between the Bathys and Maxwell? My intensional use is for Gaming on a couch
Resolve is Doug Demuro for headphones.
The Bathys are quite placement sensitive. I've found with my big head and weird ear canals, angling the front of the front of the cups outward a bit with most of the pressure behind the ears gives me the sound I'm looking for with the comfort to boot.
Are the drivers angled?
@@Hijynx87 I don't believe so. But I have weird ear canals and I find myself doing this with other headphones.
@@patrickmartineau1008usually with large drivers, shifting the headphone can affect the sound such as the Hifiman Arya or HE1000 but since the drivers are much smaller on the Bathys, it should not matter how you place the headphones…it is weird that you get such different sound effects
@@dbean5174Very weird.
@@Hijynx87yes they are I have a pair
I know what you think about the PX8 but I think they sound Fuuuun..! ✌️and the bass drowns out traffic and footsteps
I just bought a pair of these. I find them exceptionally good. Certainly a massive step up from my ageing Ferrari Cavalino T350i’s - fine tuning them with the sound test and EQ modes really helped. I did find the listening to really complex music whilst travelling on a bus with the silent noise reduction switched on did produce some odd effects which disappeared when I switched to soft noise reduction. At home I don’t need the noise reduction which sounds the best to my ears.
How can an audiophile Bluetooth headphone not have LDAC? I love Andrews reviews, but I'm surprised he doesn't even mention it. I believe the Maxwell has LDAC for less than half the price.
What adaptor do I use for the dac feature. I have a Iphone 7 plus with thunderbolt. Please advise
I would definitely avoid light fabrics on any wearables
I just wanted to add a bit of a PSA that Richer sounds who I purchased my Focal Bathy headphones from have been in touch with Focal and Focal have informed Richer sounds that's the battery is not replaceable at all. When the battery goes it cannot be serviced.
Just got these last week, £150 discount from richer sounds :). Starting to love them. Everything just works. got them paired with two devices at the same time and they just switch. perfect. I am looking for a good cable for USB lisening though, the one supplied is too short for me.
How does the Bathys know when to switch to a different device? That’s something I’ve never understood.
I love mine but the BIGGEST issue I have is the sounds it keeps making 'beeping and door knocks' during phone calls on an iPhone. Focal has ignore my pleas for help too which doesn't bode well with me
Thanks for the review! I'm getting my Bathys the day after tomorrow and after playing with a demo unit a bit I was left disappointed with a very basic EQ functionality of the official app. So my question is - what do you recommend to use for EQ with an Android phone, is there a good app for that?
I may be getting a pair in the next week, and I'm super excited...but to answer your question, I use Wavelet on my Samsung Galaxy S24 Ultra for EQ purposes and I've been very happy with it
@conroyscott2206 thanks! As of today I've already sold my Bathys, no EQ magic could ultimately fix the sound for me. I am now a very happy owner of Dali io-12, these headphones are just sublime, just another league
Yup… the Focal Bathys are all of that! I have B&W PX7’s, had the PX8… and the Bathys are far better than either of the B&W headphones
Weaker ANC modes are typically for windy environments, where ANC is detrimental at high.
It's also really good to relive the "sound pressure" feeling when using it all day
Thank you for this informative review. I am considering replacing my BOSE QC45 headphones with these Focal Bathys headphones, due to a consistent crackling in the left ear cup of my BOSE. The QC45's are not even 2 years old and BOSE is not responding to my Emails. How would these Focal headphones compare to the QC45's. Thank you in advance.
Does this one have the capacity to reproduce cd quality 16bit/41khz when it’s wired?
Yes even 24/192KHz through internal USB-C DAC
700 dollars is a big money dip for a pair of wireless headphones. And here I thought I was crazy for spending 250 on Momentum wireless 3
So you bought a mediocre headphone for 250, what you wanna get now, a cookie?
@@RafiGishyeah…Sennheiser has some work to do on their ANC headphones. While the Momentum 3’s are tuned decent, the Momentum 4’s are horribly tuned. They have more bass than the Bose 😂
yo what happened to the sun at that beach? lol hmm how does this Dune compare to the Audeze Maxwell?
Interesting updates, out of interest. What are the main competitors to these (that haven't been reviewed yet?)
Thanks Resolve! Is it true that wearing them will attract sand worms?
Facts
@@TheHEADPHONEShow Fact: the regular coloured Batys sounds great and I now use it instead of the Celestee for casual listening.
Fact: If you wear your Batys in the Dune Universe, it will cause your eyes to glow a deep blue, even in DAC mode.
How does Bathys compare with B&O H95 and Bowers Wilkins PX8 ?
Houston we have a problem, under neath the headband that soft material is fading away I notice only had my focal for maybe 4 months
would you get these or sony mdr z1r? slight price difference aside
Are the pads softer than on the original?
Why would you use these with a DAC and cable vs. bluetooth? Is there a difference in sound quality? I own the Bathy but want to know if I'm missing anything by not using them with a DAC.
Got the silver version…love em to bits 😀
In terms of sound quality, which one would win, Audeze Maxwell or Focal Bathys
Are there EQ settings to get rid of the harshness on female Voices and tighten the Bass ?
I actually don’t find Female Voices to be too harsh. And yes there is a 5 band eq with 1khz and 4khz with db adjustments and half db up to I think 5 or 6 or -5 or -6 maximum. The MIMI personalization could definitely be a game changer depending on your ears and considering punch not only has to do with the bass frequencies but also the initial “punch” and upper frequencies which the MIMI personalization can do. Also the Bass on the Bathys is almost perfect for a closed back IMO and has the right balance between fun but also having great texture and slam without sounding bloated.
Any eq recommend?
I got scared when i saw that title. I thought it might come with a better driver or something, having bought the Bathys only a couple of weeks ago... ooofff. Cheeers
How is it compared against Dali IO-12?
Good question .
Just bought a pair of these brand new for $650 aud which is very relatively cheap, no not the Dune version. I'm looking forward to getting them.
Where from?
When I received my Bathys almost a year ago I was really disappointed in my purchase especially for the price. The Focal punch and detail wasn’t there. But as I used it more and more the drivers must have broken in and loosened up and they’re a fantastic portable. I use a lightning to usb c OTG cable and quality steps up tremendously with lossless source music versus Bluetooth but the Bluetooth is convenient and sound pretty good as well.
Hi mate. Can you explain what OTG means? I tried a standard white Apple lightning to usb cable for my iPhone with my bathys but couldn’t get a sound 😢. Any help appreciated ! Cheers
@@rockon856 OTG or On The Go cables tell the iPhone to become the source host device on the lightning side so it can connect to the USB DAC in the bathys (or I use it with a Schiit DAC) as a destination device. Without it your regular usb c to lightning connected DAC both sides are destination and nothing happens. I use inexpensive OTG cables from Meenova on the usual mass online store.
Pardon what is your head cap size?
Superb review
As someone with big but not huge ears, I have to say im pretty frustrated by the reviews of all Focals claiming how great they are. They are some of the least roomy headphones I have ever tried on. The closed versions are completely unwearable. For a portable headphone, flat not fitting a large number of people should disqualify it from being claimed as "the best". Other portable headphones have figured out how to be small and lightweight while at least allowing a modicum of comfort, or at least not outright discomfort (Sony, Bose)
True but tbh, these still have better ear space. All the other Manufacturing like Bose and Sony make the ear pads sit on top of the ears. That is why these are huge looking compared to Bose. Another option is the Aipods Max as I’ve heard about the ear space being pretty big.
Are there any planar magnetics with thick meaty sound?
Like others on this thread, I had to send them back because they were too small, which never happened with any other headphone. I seem to have a relatively large head, but not a super-large head. I have a hard time understanding why they cannot add some moderate further extension for the headband.
That’s weird because I’ve found the headband to be quite big. I have a pretty large head and have the click increments at 6 out of 8. Of course they look absolutely wack considering I need to use such a large setting but the sound quality really is unlike no other for Noise Cancelling Headphones.
Do these have better sound quality than the AirPods max? Looking to see if I should replace them for this.
is it possible to disable NC?
These or the Audeze Maxwell for daily content consumption & gaming?
Please please tell me. Did they add an “off” mode to the noise canceling? The ANC kinda sucks on a bumpy bus I take in commute which caused me to return them. The sound is magnificent though
No, but there's a softer mode
Have you tried turning the ANC off with the app? Also, I too had that issue before but after a software update it got fixed.
The Focal Bathys or the B&O H95 and why?
Personally love the self deprecating jokes, they always make me laugh and then reflect on myself and how similar I am LOL
I have the Black ones --- These Dune Edition look AMAZING!!! ...My Issue is they dont Best the "PX8s" ...So sad!
I can buy the old bathys colour way for 420 usd worth?
Which is the best for travelling flying for use with a macbook please?
the bathys but if you want cheaper, get the Accentum Plus. note, the accentum plus not the non plus version
My Airpods Max died suddenly, (after 2,5 years) so I had to look for something ew. After trying Sony XM5, B&W PX8 (really bad sound for its price) and Momentum 4 (seriously a sony-killer and THE budget option), I went for the Bathys, though I really miss the Airpods ANC and Buttons, the Sound is a good step up and the design has grown on me. Now I hope, that they refine the ANC. When I really need silence, I go for my Airpods Pro 2 as they run circles around the Bathys ANC.