The narration in the DLC trailer when they show the cocoon gives me this impression: "Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men". He compelled Mohg to use his blood magic to get him what he wanted: being defiled by the Formless Mother's heretical blood ritual to divest himself of his flesh and strip himself of Grace. I also think the line in the trailer, "those stripped of grace will be met by Messmer's flame", tells me Messmer is now possibly an adversary of Miquella as he is now stripped of the Grace of Gold.
@@simonealcazar816 It doesn't make him schizoid he abandoned the Golden Order after searching depths of Golden Order history and secrets not available to just anyone like his mother Marika. He wanted to kill Radahann to bring Godwyn true death which is a body buried at roots of the erdtree. That later turned into giant abomination that grows and spreads corrupting everything in it's path. And Mogh kidnapping him would render his plans of bringing the Eclipse and growing his own tree unachievable. Since Morgott and Mogh were banished into the sewers it would be obvious he would plan in advance in case Mogh will achieve kidnapping him. Eventually the second option is that Miquella realized that his tree would grow too long for any of his plans to come to fruition in a time frame he wanted to and so he made Mogh to kidnap him to re-arrange his plans and try something new in the land of shadow.
@@simonealcazar816Ah, that makes a bit more sense and gives some more context to your earlier comments. I understand where you are coming from with that. I've seen a fair share of random theories that people want to toss out and it can muddle the discussions and make the picture less clear than it was, I will say I wasnt actually trying to connect things together when i mentioned a possible reason why mohg may not be the best option to try to talk to, i just gave a surface level reasoning without thinking deeper since I was taking your earlier comments in a different light and just wanted to give out a quick response, most likely the reason you are seeing a bunch of random theories lately is partly due to the wait for the dlc and also partly due to some lore-tubers asking for it, which has possible postive and negative consequences as we can see. The possible positive would be somebody giving a theory that helps to see things in a different perspective, but the negative consequences are also clear: it can muddle the discussion and make the seemingly clear answers that people have be drowned in the flood of theories, so I can see where you are coming from when it comes to the frustration of witnessing such a thing. Thanks for the reply :]
Hey happy you got some viewers from my shout out! Happy to see you thriving! You brought up a great point that Ranni was able to divest herself of her flesh via the Rune of Death, but what about Miquella? Well, spoiler for a future theory video but I think it may have been through the Haligtree. By feeding the tree his own blood, he essentially is weakening his own body before, possibly, divesting it of his Great Rune and so forth, allowing him to enter this Land of Shadow with no Grace in his blood or body. The lines about Miquella's Haligtree failing to become an Erdtree say just that, it failed to become an Erdtree, but what if that wasn't his goal? What if his goal was just to do some bloodletting?
I think the body Mohg collected from the Haligtree was a false one. Miquella has some history with the Albinaurics, their primary protector Loretta serves the Haligtree, there are cocooned Albinaurics within the Haligtree itself and there are Albinauric wolf riders protecting the entrance. After studying the Albinaurics, he could've created a mimic that's purpose would be to lure out Mohg, the shard-bearer who up to that point remained hidden; granting the Tarnished an opportunity to obtain that shard of the Elden Ring, have a realm full of blood to grow a new Erdtree in and restore Caelid, and transport the Tarnished to the Land of Shadow. This is the reason I think Miyazaki said it had relation to Miquella, but wasn't him.
The exploding soldiers of the Erdtree reminds me of the ruptured Crystal tear we can get in Liurnia and in the Consecrated Snowfield. It states in its description that it is a deformed tear that explodes, a hard lesson in faith. Kind of mirrors the hard lesson that Miquella learned that led to the loss of his faith. When it comes to tears, there is one (and the only item I know of) that specifically uses the word ‘terrifying’ and that is the Purifying Crystal Tear: the one that purifies the curse of Mohg’s ‘terrifying rite of blood’. His curse cleanses the blood of the influence of the Two Fingers in order to circumvent them, which he then bathes Miquella with. I think it was Mohg who divested Miquella of his gold - soul and body. An agreed upon plan since no other demigod was in any shape to help him. It was the only way for Miquella to have the illusory gold veil over his eyes removed so that he could truly see and travel the Shadow Land without Two Finger interference. Maybe, anyway.
Mohg definitely messed up Miquella's body cause WOW he looks really bad in that cocoon. I do like that connection between the Crystal Tear and the exploding soldiers! I didn't even think of that. :)
We're never actually told that Ranni was chosen by the Greater Will. She never claims to have been. Ranni and Miquella seem to be doing similar things, but their choice of methods make them foils for each other (especially by highlighting that there were other options for shedding one's empyrean flesh than using destined death to murder someone else).
Sorry about that! I was referring to my first Empyrean video, all three are chosen by their respective Two Fingers. This is more of my own theory piggybacking the topic. Thanks for watching! 🙂
Worth noting that Ranni's candidacy for empyrean would have taken place before the Greater Will forsook the Lands Between, and so would have been reliable messengers of that god at the time. The Golden Order on the other hand could always be interfering.
Thank you all for watching my video! Miquella was voted YOUR Favorite of the Demigods to speculate on in my last community post. In honor of that poll, I made this video. I hope you all enjoyed it! 😁I'm racing to get a few more Elden Ring videos out BEFORE the launch of the DLC, so keep an eye out for new videos very soon!
Miquella is trapped at a juvenile stage of development. I think he divested himself of his body because he realized there was something in his physical form, in his genetics and parentage, which was the cause of this limitation. I'm not completely sure the body in the cocoon is Miquella. When Miyazaki was asked about this in an interview, he said the cocoon and arm 'does have some relation to Miquella.' It probably is Miquella, but I just find his answer a little evasive.
I think this was all a part of Miquellas plan. The last scene in the DLC trailer shows Miquella and he looks divine, radiating golden light. I think whatever his plan was, succeeded. I could even see Mogh being used by Miquella too. Something crazy Ive read is that its not even confirmed to be Miquellas body in the cocoon since he is cursed with eternal childhood and the body is clearly adult looking. I love this video, finally something I can also get behind and very thought out possibilities. I will definitely check out your other lore videos and sub for more content in the future :)
Thank you so much for watching! And it’s definitely possible, Miquella is one of the smartest and most skilled out of all the demigods. His sights have ALWAYS been set higher than the rest of them. He knows something the others don’t, and my guess is he knows the truth about how one becomes a god.
Hello quick anwer to 9:40 Marika's Hammer reads "Stone hammer made in the lands of the Numen, outside the Lands Between." and by taking a quick look at the map I figured that Marika, likely, is a outsider of the Lands Between that arrived via a vessel, suspeciously similarly to Roderika`s landing to the Lands between. The problem with this idea was that, even thou you can actually find an anchor, there were no vessels... Until the DLC trailer droppped. If you take a close look at the scene in wich a Tarnished Samurai is figthing this eastern red flowling lady you can see massive vessels all over the place! I¡m pretty confident we are going to find the Numeen vessels which carried Marika and her kin, who landed in the now banished Realm of Shadow.
This gave me an idea.. What if marika veiled the shadow land as to shield it from the outer gods or greater will in some way. I think marika was the god of the real sap-giving tree. Then the greater will came and, like a cosmic parasite, took over everything. But maybe there was another tree she was able to seal away first. Prob not tho haha
@AHumanJusticar I have a theory that the Marika at the end of the game is not really Marika but Radagon in the form of Marika I mean its not like Marika has speels where she can hide herself right ?
Even though Miquella seems to have noble intentions, given how some of the story beats from Dark Souls repeat in Elden Ring. I think him growing his own Erdtree and becoming a god will go the way of the witches of Izalith trying to create their own flame
Yall keep bringing up the “blood magic” thing when it comes to how Miquella grew the Haligtree: his whole being is burgeoning, growth, abundance, he is literally an avatar of birth and life, opposite of his sister Malenia, avatar of rot, sickness, decay and death. Homie wanted to grew his tree really fast and his blood was the only way to water the tiny sprout. What else was he supposed to do? Spit on it?
@@julievoiceover aging is dying, Miquella embodies the concept of growth (vegetation, fruits, greenery), youth and abundance. Anything that comes in touch with Miquella or that is located in his radiant vicinity is immediately engulfed by vigor and livelihood. He dies the moment he makes himself age inside the cocoon, heavily implying the connection with his sister and butterflies. I would also like to add that since it was indeed supposed to be a butterfly metamorphosis, a caterpillar cease to exist for the butterfly to take its place. Does this mean that Miquella is now someone else entirely?
@@lorisceleste1860 maybe that confirms he is actually dead in the cocoon, the death of his cursed body to bring in the birth of his new body or something like that?
it is theorized that miquilla is inspired by the concept of Griffith from berserk and if this is the case then Mogh has gotten the short end of the stick as there is a scene in berserk where Griffith sells himself to a older man for money and the man enjoys the encounter too much to the point of trying to get Griffith to stay but shortly after he try's this, Griffith kills him and i beleive that Mohg was part of Miquilla's plan in the same way that the older man was to Griffith.
Lol bro you obviously don't remember....that guy was in charge of the enemy castle. The guy hoped to capture Griffith in battle and even charged more to keep him safe. Also the guy was a pedophile The old man thought they had something special, Griffith told him he was nothing to him. And killed him, taking over
The statues of "elden john" seem to be around the ancestral followers areas, mohgs palace, and the area where you fight mimic tear. Whoever that person was, they knew how to enter the land of shadow. But the land of shadow has some connection to the sun realm and the fell god, that is being hidden by Marika in a way that make them seem disconnected. But those tablets in the ancestral woods you can light, have a picture closer to the top of something growing that can also be seen in Farum Azula on stone walls, it looks like a small plant with a few leaves. There are also attempts to recreate dragons in nokron that make me think, the beings used to be able to ascend and become dragons or perhaps beastmen, and now that something is stopping the process, trying to recreate a dragon was like copium to not being able to naturally do it. The ancestrals I noticed, don't like to burn wood. I could not find evidence why, especially as they are not in line with the erdtree's ban of fire. But I also could not find a single ancestral corpse or graveyard of sorts in their areas, the closest is a nox looking graveyard. But there are a specific type of tree that grow near them, they look like stone pillars, but they grow like trees. You can actually see symbolism for them as stone pillars at the bottom of the tablets. There are no dead ancestrals found because they become those stone trees as they pass, and their spirits are still there to defend there woods at times. I think Marika saw beings becoming dragons as a threat to her rule, and took advantage of her people reading the tablets downward and the ancestrals not liking to read or speak, to manipulate a bunch of proxy wars using mimic shinnanigans, somehow beat the fell god in a war along with every other order besides perhaps lucaria, and tried to write history in a way that you wouldn't even know the sun realm exists. But I think its like a giant evergoal containing all the things she does not want people to see, including some people that seem to be missing. I still think its weird that there are no statues of godwyn, but a bunch of elden john... lmao, i definitly could be wrong, but it would be funny if that was godwyn this entire time. Even more funny if the dude with the dagger in his head in the trailer was him, but with no way to recognize him. Those stripped of grace of gold, shall all meet death. I think death is Godwyn or Maliketh, and were going to meet them soon. Like miquella's blade, I don't think the one you see is the one swinging the sword, they are the one along for the ride. The sole need of Maliketh, is Gurranq as a vessel. We may have released a scary being into the lands.
I think it's all planned. Since the dlc trailer dropped I think this to be more the case. I've had a theory for a minute that Miquella an Godwyn where ment to carry out a plan that was perhaps to the benefit of himself an his sister Malenia. Castle Sol being the spot that was supposed to bring godwyn back maybe but failed because of maybe Radahn magic hold on the stars. The battle between Radahn and Malenia I think was Miquella idea. Also think that Mogh getting a hold of Miquella was more of an agreement an that it really must of been Miquella plan to use him to rid himself of his flesh an really seaver his ties to the golden order successfully. Hoping to see what Miquella is really like in the dlc.
I have questions regarding the eclipse and the Haligtree itself. I’m hoping to understand a timeline of events within the Elden Ring lore, because I have often thought this establishment would help understand when things happen and the order in which they occurred. It seems odd that the Envoys are present when Malenia’s ascension into the Goddess of Rot could also explain their presence. If the plan all along was to depart to the land of Shadow, why create the Haligtree? If the eclipse was necessary, was that before or after the Haligtree? I spend a lot of time in the brace of the Haligtree and read item descriptions often, “Though watered with Miquella's own blood since it was a sapling, the Haligtree ultimately failed to grow into an Erdtree.” “Yet now, with the Haligtree misshapen, this wondrous rendition is a fleeting fantasy.” Makes me wonder that each clue is another failed attempt on Miquella’s quest for answers, and ultimately he found them in the realm of Shadow. The how, when, and why I’m struggling to understand. 🤔✌🏼
I'm right there with you! It looks like we're going to be getting a LOT more Miquella in the DLC, so hopefully we can get an idea of how and when things went wrong for the Haligtree. The description line states that the "Land of Shadow is a place obscured by the Erdtree." Prehaps he had multiple intentions with the Haligtree, one being to ascend, the other to create a new Erdtree so he could reveal or "unobscure" the Land of Shadow? Wild guess! Thanks for watching! 😁
Another great video as always. What i have always wondered is, did Marika also abandon her flesh? Because, when we enter the Erdtree she doesn't seem to be there. Could Melina be Marika and the pregnant woman in the DLC portrait be her mother? Melina says she was born at the foot of the Erdtree (which sounds like the Shadowlands) and her mother gave a purpose to her . Could it be that her parents made a deal with the Two fingers, so that their infant daughter be the new God of the Lands in Between? Which would make Marika/Melina the victim of all this. If that is the case, then we meet Melina as she would have been if she was never Queen Marika, her true, pure self, free of the Outer Will's influence. Ranni dreaded the thought of ending up like Marika.
I’ve thought a lot about this too! Why does Marika/Radagon look as though they’re breaking/crumbling like statues. Whereas their daughter Malenia is flesh and blood. Did Queen Marika also have to divest herself of her flesh for ascension? Is this how Miquella knew? It’s totally possible that the Land of Shadow is not a place for the living, so we may have no choice but to do the same… Thanks so much for watching as always 😁
I suspect that these events were, on some level, part of Miquella's plan all along. And just as Ranni took actions to change her fate (by killing her brother among other things), I think Miquella has done the same and the Amber Starlight Shard is his discarded fate.
Miquellas tree arm is also withered..... he's a tree now. Like marika was. It's why the art work of her in front of the tree was released imo If he was in the tree would explain why malenia is sitting there looking up at his tree form, and why she not out looking for him
I think Marika was one of the eternals of nokron, we know that the nokrons worshiped the eternals and that the nokrons are descendants of the numen this would explain why marika is associated with the black nife assasins Marikas action were what got nokron banished she killed on of her fellow eternals to create the finger slayer blade and used it to upend the current crucible (dragon) order and become a god for a more puritan greater will based order without the influences of lesser gods such as the fell god, god of rot, and the formless mother, The greater will used to allow these outer gods influence on the world but marikas actions made the greater will take a more hands on approach
To your question about whether Miquella is actually dead in the Lands Between, the description of the Veteran's set states: "An old helm that has seen many battles. Worn by Niall, the great veteran general of Sol. Nial was a lone survivor who commanded spirits to defend his long-passed master. This aging general could not die, nor did he have anywhere to fade away." If we assume this master is Miquella, as everything we know points to that, then the game outright tells us that Miquella is dead (in the Lands Between).
It’s explicitly stated that Marika became a god in the land of shadow so the fact that miquella would attempt to do the same is quite spot on. I agree with Gideon that miquella may be in a coma-like state which enables him to travel to the land of shadow (sleep is closely related to death after all, and what is a coma but a deep slumber.) I believe his current body is a result of the massive amount of cursed blood corrupting his form, forcibly growing his body (which seems to parallel godwyns current state; huge, malformed, soulless and corrupted by Death.)
You should consider that Miquella's power to bewitch others is why the soldiers explode themselves. Only lowly footsoliders do this, not the more equipped soldiers or Knights. Miquella views them as more disposable, so he "programmed" them to self-destruct, making them more valuable and formidable as an army, dismissing them as individuals. With the exception of Cleanrot Knights, all the Haligtree forces have a band of what appears to be unalloyed gold around their helmets. Around their heads, their brains, their minds. This could be one way Miquella compels people to become his followers.
You clearly put so much work into the research and creation of these videos and they never disappoint. Can’t wait to hear your thoughts on the DLC!
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09:53 i really like the idea of having to go to the shadow to ascend to God-hood. Really fits the hermetic and spiritual themes of the game imo
I definitely think Miquella is more in control of the Mohg situation than it seems.
Or..orchestrated by the greater will?
That's what I think as well. All part of his plan
The narration in the DLC trailer when they show the cocoon gives me this impression: "Pure and radiant, he wields love to shrive clean the hearts of men".
He compelled Mohg to use his blood magic to get him what he wanted: being defiled by the Formless Mother's heretical blood ritual to divest himself of his flesh and strip himself of Grace.
I also think the line in the trailer, "those stripped of grace will be met by Messmer's flame", tells me Messmer is now possibly an adversary of Miquella as he is now stripped of the Grace of Gold.
@@simonealcazar816 It doesn't make him schizoid he abandoned the Golden Order after searching depths of Golden Order history and secrets not available to just anyone like his mother Marika.
He wanted to kill Radahann to bring Godwyn true death which is a body buried at roots of the erdtree.
That later turned into giant abomination that grows and spreads corrupting everything in it's path.
And Mogh kidnapping him would render his plans of bringing the Eclipse and growing his own tree unachievable.
Since Morgott and Mogh were banished into the sewers it would be obvious he would plan in advance in case Mogh will achieve kidnapping him.
Eventually the second option is that Miquella realized that his tree would grow too long for any of his plans to come to fruition in a time frame he wanted to and so he made Mogh to kidnap him to re-arrange his plans and try something new in the land of shadow.
@@simonealcazar816Ah, that makes a bit more sense and gives some more context to your earlier comments. I understand where you are coming from with that. I've seen a fair share of random theories that people want to toss out and it can muddle the discussions and make the picture less clear than it was, I will say I wasnt actually trying to connect things together when i mentioned a possible reason why mohg may not be the best option to try to talk to, i just gave a surface level reasoning without thinking deeper since I was taking your earlier comments in a different light and just wanted to give out a quick response, most likely the reason you are seeing a bunch of random theories lately is partly due to the wait for the dlc and also partly due to some lore-tubers asking for it, which has possible postive and negative consequences as we can see. The possible positive would be somebody giving a theory that helps to see things in a different perspective, but the negative consequences are also clear: it can muddle the discussion and make the seemingly clear answers that people have be drowned in the flood of theories, so I can see where you are coming from when it comes to the frustration of witnessing such a thing. Thanks for the reply :]
Hey happy you got some viewers from my shout out! Happy to see you thriving! You brought up a great point that Ranni was able to divest herself of her flesh via the Rune of Death, but what about Miquella?
Well, spoiler for a future theory video but I think it may have been through the Haligtree. By feeding the tree his own blood, he essentially is weakening his own body before, possibly, divesting it of his Great Rune and so forth, allowing him to enter this Land of Shadow with no Grace in his blood or body.
The lines about Miquella's Haligtree failing to become an Erdtree say just that, it failed to become an Erdtree, but what if that wasn't his goal? What if his goal was just to do some bloodletting?
This is a great theory Jack! 💡😄 I’m hopeful we get some well deserved answers this June!
I think the oracles are in the haligtrre because of Malenia, since she's about to bloom again this time becoming the god of rot.
This is also another possibility! Especially with how the Scarlet Rot has taken over the entire Haligtree!
I think the body Mohg collected from the Haligtree was a false one. Miquella has some history with the Albinaurics, their primary protector Loretta serves the Haligtree, there are cocooned Albinaurics within the Haligtree itself and there are Albinauric wolf riders protecting the entrance.
After studying the Albinaurics, he could've created a mimic that's purpose would be to lure out Mohg, the shard-bearer who up to that point remained hidden; granting the Tarnished an opportunity to obtain that shard of the Elden Ring, have a realm full of blood to grow a new Erdtree in and restore Caelid, and transport the Tarnished to the Land of Shadow. This is the reason I think Miyazaki said it had relation to Miquella, but wasn't him.
The exploding soldiers of the Erdtree reminds me of the ruptured Crystal tear we can get in Liurnia and in the Consecrated Snowfield. It states in its description that it is a deformed tear that explodes, a hard lesson in faith. Kind of mirrors the hard lesson that Miquella learned that led to the loss of his faith. When it comes to tears, there is one (and the only item I know of) that specifically uses the word ‘terrifying’ and that is the Purifying Crystal Tear: the one that purifies the curse of Mohg’s ‘terrifying rite of blood’. His curse cleanses the blood of the influence of the Two Fingers in order to circumvent them, which he then bathes Miquella with. I think it was Mohg who divested Miquella of his gold - soul and body. An agreed upon plan since no other demigod was in any shape to help him. It was the only way for Miquella to have the illusory gold veil over his eyes removed so that he could truly see and travel the Shadow Land without Two Finger interference. Maybe, anyway.
Mohg definitely messed up Miquella's body cause WOW he looks really bad in that cocoon. I do like that connection between the Crystal Tear and the exploding soldiers! I didn't even think of that. :)
We're never actually told that Ranni was chosen by the Greater Will. She never claims to have been. Ranni and Miquella seem to be doing similar things, but their choice of methods make them foils for each other (especially by highlighting that there were other options for shedding one's empyrean flesh than using destined death to murder someone else).
Sorry about that! I was referring to my first Empyrean video, all three are chosen by their respective Two Fingers. This is more of my own theory piggybacking the topic. Thanks for watching! 🙂
Worth noting that Ranni's candidacy for empyrean would have taken place before the Greater Will forsook the Lands Between, and so would have been reliable messengers of that god at the time. The Golden Order on the other hand could always be interfering.
Honestly criminal you don’t have more subs. You put so much work into this channel. I love it so much.
Thank you!! 😀☺
Thank you all for watching my video! Miquella was voted YOUR Favorite of the Demigods to speculate on in my last community post. In honor of that poll, I made this video. I hope you all enjoyed it! 😁I'm racing to get a few more Elden Ring videos out BEFORE the launch of the DLC, so keep an eye out for new videos very soon!
Miquella is trapped at a juvenile stage of development. I think he divested himself of his body because he realized there was something in his physical form, in his genetics and parentage, which was the cause of this limitation. I'm not completely sure the body in the cocoon is Miquella. When Miyazaki was asked about this in an interview, he said the cocoon and arm 'does have some relation to Miquella.' It probably is Miquella, but I just find his answer a little evasive.
We’re in agreement! I think similar to Ranni, Miquella WANTED to rid himself of his cursed body. Just for different reasons of course.
Did you see the size of the body in that cocoon? If that's "juvenile" then I would hate to see his adult form.
I think this was all a part of Miquellas plan. The last scene in the DLC trailer shows Miquella and he looks divine, radiating golden light. I think whatever his plan was, succeeded. I could even see Mogh being used by Miquella too. Something crazy Ive read is that its not even confirmed to be Miquellas body in the cocoon since he is cursed with eternal childhood and the body is clearly adult looking.
I love this video, finally something I can also get behind and very thought out possibilities. I will definitely check out your other lore videos and sub for more content in the future :)
Thank you so much for watching!
And it’s definitely possible, Miquella is one of the smartest and most skilled out of all the demigods. His sights have ALWAYS been set higher than the rest of them. He knows something the others don’t, and my guess is he knows the truth about how one becomes a god.
Hello quick anwer to 9:40 Marika's Hammer reads "Stone hammer made in the lands of the Numen, outside the Lands Between." and by taking a quick look at the map I figured that Marika, likely, is a outsider of the Lands Between that arrived via a vessel, suspeciously similarly to Roderika`s landing to the Lands between. The problem with this idea was that, even thou you can actually find an anchor, there were no vessels... Until the DLC trailer droppped. If you take a close look at the scene in wich a Tarnished Samurai is figthing this eastern red flowling lady you can see massive vessels all over the place! I¡m pretty confident we are going to find the Numeen vessels which carried Marika and her kin, who landed in the now banished Realm of Shadow.
WOW, my mind is blown! I did not put that together but I think you're right!! :D
You deserve waaaay more subs.
Thank you! :)
This gave me an idea..
What if marika veiled the shadow land as to shield it from the outer gods or greater will in some way. I think marika was the god of the real sap-giving tree. Then the greater will came and, like a cosmic parasite, took over everything. But maybe there was another tree she was able to seal away first. Prob not tho haha
I like this idea!! 💡😁
@AHumanJusticar I have a theory that the Marika at the end of the game is not really Marika but Radagon in the form of Marika I mean its not like Marika has speels where she can hide herself right ?
If the Sun is the star that brought the Elden Beast and reductively shadows are caused by an obstruction of light - I'm on board
Even though Miquella seems to have noble intentions, given how some of the story beats from Dark Souls repeat in Elden Ring. I think him growing his own Erdtree and becoming a god will go the way of the witches of Izalith trying to create their own flame
How right you were.
I'd be curious to see just how large your cork board is, bc these theories are awesome!
Thank you so much! :)
Yall keep bringing up the “blood magic” thing when it comes to how Miquella grew the Haligtree: his whole being is burgeoning, growth, abundance, he is literally an avatar of birth and life, opposite of his sister Malenia, avatar of rot, sickness, decay and death.
Homie wanted to grew his tree really fast and his blood was the only way to water the tiny sprout. What else was he supposed to do? Spit on it?
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Actually you just made me realize something… I get it now thank you holy shit
But Miquella is NOT able to grow or age. He’s trapped in the body of a young child. What about that equals growth?
@@julievoiceover aging is dying, Miquella embodies the concept of growth (vegetation, fruits, greenery), youth and abundance.
Anything that comes in touch with Miquella or that is located in his radiant vicinity is immediately engulfed by vigor and livelihood.
He dies the moment he makes himself age inside the cocoon, heavily implying the connection with his sister and butterflies.
I would also like to add that since it was indeed supposed to be a butterfly metamorphosis, a caterpillar cease to exist for the butterfly to take its place. Does this mean that Miquella is now someone else entirely?
@@lorisceleste1860 maybe that confirms he is actually dead in the cocoon, the death of his cursed body to bring in the birth of his new body or something like that?
I just realized: ranni walked the DARK path of the empyrean, you know what else is dark? A Shadow! More ranni in the land of shadows confirmed?😂
You do have to beat Radahn to get into the dlc which makes Rannis fate happen so it is possible we could see her
@@rdc4461 currently i actually think that radahn holding back the stars also holds miquella‘s fate, so we need to beat him for miquella as well.
@@yunkinto yeah that makes sense that it would freeze everyone’s fate not just hers
it is theorized that miquilla is inspired by the concept of Griffith from berserk and if this is the case then Mogh has gotten the short end of the stick as there is a scene in berserk where Griffith sells himself to a older man for money and the man enjoys the encounter too much to the point of trying to get Griffith to stay but shortly after he try's this, Griffith kills him and i beleive that Mohg was part of Miquilla's plan in the same way that the older man was to Griffith.
Hopefully not
Lol bro you obviously don't remember....that guy was in charge of the enemy castle. The guy hoped to capture Griffith in battle and even charged more to keep him safe. Also the guy was a pedophile
The old man thought they had something special, Griffith told him he was nothing to him. And killed him, taking over
@@noirekuroraigami2270 mohg "wanted" to ascend miquilla to godhood which infers he had a special purpose for him
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The statues of "elden john" seem to be around the ancestral followers areas, mohgs palace, and the area where you fight mimic tear. Whoever that person was, they knew how to enter the land of shadow. But the land of shadow has some connection to the sun realm and the fell god, that is being hidden by Marika in a way that make them seem disconnected. But those tablets in the ancestral woods you can light, have a picture closer to the top of something growing that can also be seen in Farum Azula on stone walls, it looks like a small plant with a few leaves. There are also attempts to recreate dragons in nokron that make me think, the beings used to be able to ascend and become dragons or perhaps beastmen, and now that something is stopping the process, trying to recreate a dragon was like copium to not being able to naturally do it.
The ancestrals I noticed, don't like to burn wood. I could not find evidence why, especially as they are not in line with the erdtree's ban of fire. But I also could not find a single ancestral corpse or graveyard of sorts in their areas, the closest is a nox looking graveyard. But there are a specific type of tree that grow near them, they look like stone pillars, but they grow like trees. You can actually see symbolism for them as stone pillars at the bottom of the tablets. There are no dead ancestrals found because they become those stone trees as they pass, and their spirits are still there to defend there woods at times. I think Marika saw beings becoming dragons as a threat to her rule, and took advantage of her people reading the tablets downward and the ancestrals not liking to read or speak, to manipulate a bunch of proxy wars using mimic shinnanigans, somehow beat the fell god in a war along with every other order besides perhaps lucaria, and tried to write history in a way that you wouldn't even know the sun realm exists. But I think its like a giant evergoal containing all the things she does not want people to see, including some people that seem to be missing. I still think its weird that there are no statues of godwyn, but a bunch of elden john... lmao, i definitly could be wrong, but it would be funny if that was godwyn this entire time. Even more funny if the dude with the dagger in his head in the trailer was him, but with no way to recognize him. Those stripped of grace of gold, shall all meet death. I think death is Godwyn or Maliketh, and were going to meet them soon. Like miquella's blade, I don't think the one you see is the one swinging the sword, they are the one along for the ride. The sole need of Maliketh, is Gurranq as a vessel. We may have released a scary being into the lands.
I think it's all planned. Since the dlc trailer dropped I think this to be more the case. I've had a theory for a minute that Miquella an Godwyn where ment to carry out a plan that was perhaps to the benefit of himself an his sister Malenia. Castle Sol being the spot that was supposed to bring godwyn back maybe but failed because of maybe Radahn magic hold on the stars. The battle between Radahn and Malenia I think was Miquella idea. Also think that Mogh getting a hold of Miquella was more of an agreement an that it really must of been Miquella plan to use him to rid himself of his flesh an really seaver his ties to the golden order successfully. Hoping to see what Miquella is really like in the dlc.
I have questions regarding the eclipse and the Haligtree itself. I’m hoping to understand a timeline of events within the Elden Ring lore, because I have often thought this establishment would help understand when things happen and the order in which they occurred. It seems odd that the Envoys are present when Malenia’s ascension into the Goddess of Rot could also explain their presence. If the plan all along was to depart to the land of Shadow, why create the Haligtree? If the eclipse was necessary, was that before or after the Haligtree? I spend a lot of time in the brace of the Haligtree and read item descriptions often, “Though watered with Miquella's own blood since it was a sapling, the Haligtree ultimately failed to grow into an Erdtree.” “Yet now, with the Haligtree misshapen, this wondrous rendition is a fleeting fantasy.” Makes me wonder that each clue is another failed attempt on Miquella’s quest for answers, and ultimately he found them in the realm of Shadow. The how, when, and why I’m struggling to understand. 🤔✌🏼
I'm right there with you!
It looks like we're going to be getting a LOT more Miquella in the DLC, so hopefully we can get an idea of how and when things went wrong for the Haligtree.
The description line states that the "Land of Shadow is a place obscured by the Erdtree." Prehaps he had multiple intentions with the Haligtree, one being to ascend, the other to create a new Erdtree so he could reveal or "unobscure" the Land of Shadow? Wild guess!
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Another great video as always. What i have always wondered is, did Marika also abandon her flesh? Because, when we enter the Erdtree she doesn't seem to be there. Could Melina be Marika and the pregnant woman in the DLC portrait be her mother? Melina says she was born at the foot of the Erdtree (which sounds like the Shadowlands) and her mother gave a purpose to her . Could it be that her parents made a deal with the Two fingers, so that their infant daughter be the new God of the Lands in Between? Which would make Marika/Melina the victim of all this.
If that is the case, then we meet Melina as she would have been if she was never Queen Marika, her true, pure self, free of the Outer Will's influence. Ranni dreaded the thought of ending up like Marika.
I’ve thought a lot about this too! Why does Marika/Radagon look as though they’re breaking/crumbling like statues. Whereas their daughter Malenia is flesh and blood.
Did Queen Marika also have to divest herself of her flesh for ascension? Is this how Miquella knew? It’s totally possible that the Land of Shadow is not a place for the living, so we may have no choice but to do the same…
Thanks so much for watching as always 😁
I suspect that these events were, on some level, part of Miquella's plan all along. And just as Ranni took actions to change her fate (by killing her brother among other things), I think Miquella has done the same and the Amber Starlight Shard is his discarded fate.
Really excited for this one!!!!🤩🤩🤩🤩
There is also a theory that the person in the cacoon is not Miquella but perhaps Mesmer the hands do seem similar enough.
Miquellas tree arm is also withered..... he's a tree now. Like marika was. It's why the art work of her in front of the tree was released imo
If he was in the tree would explain why malenia is sitting there looking up at his tree form, and why she not out looking for him
Great video
1:12 it says "obscurded" instead of obscured
I think Marika was one of the eternals of nokron, we know that the nokrons worshiped the eternals and that the nokrons are descendants of the numen this would explain why marika is associated with the black nife assasins Marikas action were what got nokron banished she killed on of her fellow eternals to create the finger slayer blade and used it to upend the current crucible (dragon) order and become a god for a more puritan greater will based order without the influences of lesser gods such as the fell god, god of rot, and the formless mother, The greater will used to allow these outer gods influence on the world but marikas actions made the greater will take a more hands on approach
Where does it say he divested himself of his flesh? Isn't that a theory in itself? Or does it say so in the game? I'm just wondering.
It’s actually on the Bandai Namco website, in the DLC’s description! 😄
Technically we know of three emperyans the 2 you mention and marika herself
She probably ment besides Marika.
Since she is the mother of 2.
Yeah, this is what I meant! :)
The fingers
Does Malenia have eyes??
To your question about whether Miquella is actually dead in the Lands Between, the description of the Veteran's set states:
"An old helm that has seen many battles. Worn by Niall, the great veteran general of Sol.
Nial was a lone survivor who commanded spirits to defend his long-passed master.
This aging general could not die, nor did he have anywhere to fade away."
If we assume this master is Miquella, as everything we know points to that, then the game outright tells us that Miquella is dead (in the Lands Between).
That's a really good point I didn't consider!
Because he was a baby
It’s explicitly stated that Marika became a god in the land of shadow so the fact that miquella would attempt to do the same is quite spot on. I agree with Gideon that miquella may be in a coma-like state which enables him to travel to the land of shadow (sleep is closely related to death after all, and what is a coma but a deep slumber.) I believe his current body is a result of the massive amount of cursed blood corrupting his form, forcibly growing his body (which seems to parallel godwyns current state; huge, malformed, soulless and corrupted by Death.)
The good hand makes Griffith leave behind everything to reach godhood aswell
Godhand*
You should consider that Miquella's power to bewitch others is why the soldiers explode themselves. Only lowly footsoliders do this, not the more equipped soldiers or Knights.
Miquella views them as more disposable, so he "programmed" them to self-destruct, making them more valuable and formidable as an army, dismissing them as individuals.
With the exception of Cleanrot Knights, all the Haligtree forces have a band of what appears to be unalloyed gold around their helmets. Around their heads, their brains, their minds. This could be one way Miquella compels people to become his followers.
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*yawn* your tone is great for sleep, as is your regurgitated subject matter
Too long intro
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That’s a little harsh but see ya stinky
Douche.
😂 and no one cared
The only thing too long is your ridiculous comment.
Is that just me or there's a grace within Messmer's flame in the trailer ?
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