Nissan Patrol Engines TD42 vs ZD30 - [ Why Do You Have One ? ]
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- Опубліковано 28 сер 2021
- TD42 vs ZD30. Both engines have been around in Nissan Patrol s for many years.
The TD42 was first introduced into a GQ Nissan Patrol in the late 1980’s and it was phased out in 2007 when the Common Rail Diesel ZD30 took over.
The first ZD30 engine went into a GU Y61 Nissan Patrol in April 2000.
The ZD30 had a major design change in 2006 -07 when the Common Rail Diesel ( CRD ) became the motor for the GU Patrol, right up until 2016.
The production of the CRD ZD30 has now finished. End of an era for both engines.
Nissan sure have made very solid a reliable 4WD s over the years. The running gear in the entire Nissan Patrol range is pretty much bullet proof.
So, if you are looking at getting a Nissan Patrol, you have a couple of engines to consider.
TD42 vs ZD30 Which way will you go?
There’s pros and cons for both engines. So, I’m looking forward to discussing this in the live chat.
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My GQ TD 4.2 I've had from new never had a problem with overheating, car has done 834,619 kilometres still going strong and very well maintained..
G'day Dave,
Wicked Ks you have done with your TD and you have had since new.
Top stuff mate.
Cheers Tim
Strong engine u got there mate 834,619 km is not a joke congrats bruh
Unopened?
This is awesome, like finding a virgin n being stuck till death mate! And she still hasn’t gotten hot, must buy a lot of flowers..
Standard settings on the fuel pump?
2013 y61 with ZD30, owned from new, no mods. 338000 km, oil and filter every 10 to 20000 km, 2 x fuel pressure relief valves, 1 x replacement intercooler with welded tanks and 1 x clutch at 290000 odd km.
Best car ever and can see no reason why it won’t double the km already on the clock.
Gday mate,
How’s your GU going?
Cheers Tim
Hey mate had my 2000 model td42t for 20 years now the place it works best is in the bush it’s getting a birthday and staying with me till the death love it honestly there’s nothing that could replace it
Gday Mark,
Mate that’s wicked you have had your TD for that long.
Great it’s been very reliable.
I’m the same with mine.
Don’t think it will ever be replaced.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim.
Informative video Tim, and good to see that most of the comments are constructive and haven't devolved into a total slinging match (which is pointless).
With regard to overheating issues on TD42's, they seem to respond well to having a high flow water pump fitted, and also when a fan is fitted to the underside of the top mount intercooler to draw air through.
Gday mate
Sorry for the late reply.
Yeah, it was a good live chat.
Great feedback from everyone that replied.
The TD 42 is still a great motor and still very sort after.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures
Cheers Tim. 👍
They're both good motors, just with different characteristics. I definitely wouldn't be averse to owning a ZD Patrol.....especially a late model with an auto as I reckon they'd be much easier to live with around town than my old TD.
Having said that, I made my decision based on seeing 1st hand what crazy km's you can get from these engines, and that was my most important criteria. Mine has just clicked over 630,000, and the motor has never been out or rebuilt so I couldn't be happier.
I would also suggest that the common denominator with both TD and ZD longevity is regular servicing and maintenance. 😊
@@mgiblonski4318 yeah that’s great mate.
My Zd30 now has over 385000ks and still going great.
Service it regularly is the go.
Solid video mate enjoying this channel , what i Find amusing is all this talk over over 3.0 / td42T but the mighty rd28T is forgotten love mine but irrelevant to this video but thought I’d put this out there 😆
G'day mate,
Yeah you are spot on about the 2.8, you just hear about them anymore.
A mate of mine had one and he converted it to straight gas. It went really well.
Thanks for your reply and feedback mate.
Cheers Tim
Great video, I enjoy all your content
I respect anyone's who owns any patrol, they are a beautiful truck in general
I gotta say my bit.. I had a Zd30, great car but sadly the engine did blow up at 280k on the clock, I now own an 05 gu TD42 with 250,000k on it and absolutely love it yes it does overheat when going up steep hills when shes hot or towing my trailer, im running 35s with a 3" exhaust with all the goodies. The engine is pretty stock besides having a tune, and I just replaced the Clutch it took on the Cape with no major dramas.
Other than that keep the videos coming mate
G'day Scotty,
Thats a shame about your ZD30 giving way at 280000ks.
Mine is still going well at 365000ks
The 42 you now have sounds the good mate and going well.
Thanks for your feedback mate, i really appreciate it.
Cheers Tim
Grab yourself a UFI Fan and Hub huge difference
I bought my Y61 GU TD42 Patrol Ute new in June 2005. And I still have it. NO engine mods - and the only engine problem I have had was the altenator which just wore out. A new Altenator and not a problem since. Never had an overheating problem at all. It is now coming up to 300K on the clock and I have absolutely no intention of getting rid of it. It could use a little TLC, bodywise as it has always been parked in the weather and is now showing the effects of that. This is my 4x4 and my daily driver. Yes I would like something New and Shiny, but wouldn't we all? Cheers.
G'day Bryce,
Sounds like you have a good rig going on.
Im sure not after anything new. My Patrol goes well and i'll be hanging on to it.
Thanks for your feedback mate.
Cheers Tim
Just popped in to say i have a td with a 12mm pump because it goes like hell and sounds beautiful.. thumbs up the video!!!!
Sounds like a wicked setup mate with your TD.
They do sound good.
Cheers Tim
I have had 2001 ZD30 from new. Now on 260000km apart from a fuel pump issue at about 200k it’s never missed a beat. Regular servicing but no mods. I’m about to splash some cash an go for 3” exhaust, gauges and a catch can. Hopefully it will continue to run well.
Gday mate,
That’s wicked yours is still going well.
Regular servicing is the key for sure.
I have those extra mods you are looking at, well worth getting them.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Got a 2003 gu patrol currently sitting on 450000km and never misses a beat. Drop oil change filters and clean up every 5***ks
Gday mate,
That’s wicked Ks you’ve got from you Zd30.
Regular oil and filter changes are the key, that’s for sure.
Thanks mate for your reply
Cheers Tim
Thanks for the vid Tim. I love my old girl Gq patrol td42 and about to do my first desert trip. Keen to see how she goes
Cheers
Also if your old girl was to kick the bucket. What would be your next choice of 4wd?
Gday mate.
How did that dessert trip go in your td42?
Cheers Tim.
That’s not an easy question to answer mate.
My Patrol is all setup.
Coils all round.
New engine would be the best option when you look at new 4wd designs these days.
I’d stick with ol faithful.
Cheers Tim
Just popped in to say bloody good video, I've got a 97 gu1 safari 4.2 turbo previous owner had it running high boost and got it hot like said in your video he was trying to race it , since ive owned it ive rebuilt the motor at 610,000km and reset pump etc to factory then bumped it up slightly, also fitted front mount intercooler and thermo fans, 3 inch exhaust and snorkel plus air box now at 679000kms going strong still no overheating issues but now I've said it you never know. Cheers mate
Gday mate
Thanks for your feedback on the video.
Sounds like you have a great running 42.
I hope it doesn’t now start running hot now you’ve mentioned it. lol.
Cheers Tim
@timbates4wdadventures cheers mate fingers crossed, glad I found your videos
@@user-ji5cy6dd4j thanks heaps mate.
I have the april 06 zd30 navara, no intercooler, no bonnet scoop. 157000km. Always serviced. Such a strong motor and I push it pretty hard, even towing a 2T camper trailer.
G'day; I have had my TD30 since 2004 new (manual). It has now 315k on it and runs as good as ever. No mods except a chip and a catch can. Never had a problem and only ever needed to change 1 clutch and 1 alternator. I am definitely holding on to it as I can't fault it. Never missed a service and I have looked after it very well. Done a lot of highway and dirt roads but never really rough 4wding.
Sounds like you have a really good TD mate.
Dont ever sell it, you'll never find another one like that.
Cheers Tim
True.. don't sell your Patrol. Our is a 98' Model with 350k kms (TD42)... its so reliable!! Built like a tank!
Greetings from Manila, Philippines!!
ZD30? they dont have a td30
A bit off topic Tim , I had two FJZ80 series and have got 500,000 kms out of both of them Economy aside they’re good cheap fun. No overheating issues , no intercoollers , no high EGT’s. Drive them , change filters at 5,000. Power to burn I rarely rev past 3,000rpm. Parts everywhere
No issues with diesel complexities. Big ballsy motor in a modern wagon exterior. Love it
Gday Craig,
High end numbers from your two vehicles.
Top stuff mate.
Cheers Tim
2004 di clocked over 570k. Had the head done at 250k and the turbo replaced still running a dream minus some trans issues it had earlier this year
Thats wicked mate with those high Ks on the clock and still going strong.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
Hi Tim
First mod I did was 3inch exhaust then intercooler have a hpd and then a 4inch stainless snorkel and a air box upgrade with a pod filter. So I have 4inch to 3inch air flow took out 95%of the lag and dropped gets heaps it’s a 2003 di I found independence motor sport in Morwell they pull the ecu out send it away to be remapped and unlocked. Then it’s able to be Dyno tuned the tune is for towing my van better just better toque not huge power. New oil every 5000klms has 235000klms on it look after a diesel they will look after you.
G'day mate,
Thats a wicked list of mods you have done.
Thanks for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Great video
Thanks mate.
Really appreciate your feedback.
Glad you enjoyed it.
Cheers Tim
My dad's GQ had done around 750k non intercooled safari turbo never overheated and took us all around Aus, its now in a GU ute still going strong. Good power out of the zd30s though
G'day Darcy,
Thats unreal mate.
The TD still going well after 750k on the clock and been in two cars.
Wicked story mate.
Thanks for that.
Cheers Tim
Tim, I can’t believe you didn’t mention reduction gears
I’ owned a 2004 GU TD 4.2 Ute & then went to a 09 CRD GU wagon (still in the family and will come back to me one day, I love this vehicle)
But when I first bought it I hated it & was thinking what have I done.
In the bush they just don’t have the low down torque to take on obstacles slow and in control.
But what a difference a set of transfer case gears made, turned it into an absolute weapon in the bush.
I would nearly say the best modification you can do to GU CRD (along with lockers)
I’m building a 1999 TD 42 GQ coil cab up atm and reduction gears are going on again.
With the right mods the CRD can be a great as a 4.2
Cheers
Yeah the gears are great I also have them.
Wicked off road.
Thanks for your feedback mate.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures yeah I knew you had them.
You probably don’t remember but I hit you up a few times throughout my build process on the CRD
Good times enjoy mate.
@@yanmar5 yeah cool mate.
You have a good one
Hey mate , old post , but do transfer gears give you useful engine breaking?
This guy is a legend. So many guys are so angry all the time regarding this topic.
It was a good topic chatting about both motors.
I appreciate your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Greetings from cyprus...i own a td42 y60 highroor gq with aftermarket turbo since 580k khm..now has 967k on the clock and still wheelies those toyo's 35x13.5 r15
I reckon you’ll get well over 400k out of yours Tim. Preventative maintenance and regular servicing is key. Not to mention you use quality lubricants and filtration. Cheers for the vid mate. 🍺
Gday Darren,
Yeah mate, I don’t see any reason at all why it won’t.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
I've seen one reach up to 500K's and i have also seen an 08 build up to 500 or 570K's, so yea they can do it
@@nathanreid2974 great high Ks mate.
Thanks for your reply.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures I got one recently with 400k on the clock. It had a rebuild done at some point looking at it but it runs really healthy. Wonder how much I can get out of it.
Little bit of my story on this topic. In 2015 I made the decision to purchase a Patrol. I had my heart set on a 05-06 td42ti in the S4 shape. I searched and searched with nothing under 50k with under 200,000. I found a nice one in Adelaide and flew there from Sydney only to find that for 52k and 154000 it had rust, receipts for engine work (from broken shit) ect. I was disappointed non the less for the amount of money it was for a molested 4wd. For 2k more I could get a brand new off the show room 3ltr CRD with 15kms on the clock. I spent 4 weeks ringing different mechanics, engine rebuilders and tuners along with reading a lot of forms and all my feed back was this. The CRD is a good strong motor, unlike the Di you would be hard pressed or doing dumb shit to blow a CRD up. They are no different to any other modern CRD on the market in that respect. A good tune and some preventative mods will have them last. Needless to say I purchased one. 6 years later and only 80 000 not exactly big numbers to report back on but the only issue I have had are from me modding it haha, others then that the engine starts and purrs like the day I started it in the show room I would be more then confident it will take me anywhere in Aus and home 👌 up the ZD CRD 💪
G'day David,
Gee you have travelled around to find what you want. The TD is a great motor, but yes big bucks come attached when trying to buy one.
Sounds like you have got yourself a good ZD30 now.
They are a good thing thats for sure mate.
Thanks for sharing your story to find what you want.
I greatly appreciate your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Go the mighty ZD30 common rail!!!! Love both of the Nissan diesel engines honestly! I just wish Nissan would go back to making Diesel engines again as well as double axle Patrols.
Yeah mate, both engines have stopped in production, but they will be around for a long time to come.
Solid axles and coils all round, doesn't get much better.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
We still get Y61 ZD30 in PNG. Both the wagon and single cab ute.
I have a 2003 GU Patrol ZD30, now has 330000 odd ks on it and runs like a swiss clock, maintenance is key.
Tops tuff mate. Regular maintenance is the go for sure.
Cheers Tim
I’ve got a 2001 ZD30, fantastic truck, lots of power, outstanding 4WD, engine went like a charm, then blew at 460,000, fully rebuilt with up market parts, looking forward to another 400,000, cheaper to rebuild than swap my truck for a 4.2
Gday Jack,
Mate, that’s unreal Ks you got from your ZD30.
Mine is at 392000 Ks and still going well.
When you say it blew.
What happened to the motor?
Thanks a lot for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim
I’ve been so worried right. Because of what I’m told. Mines running fine had it for 6 months. 270ks. About to finally give her a catch can and swap out the intercooler
I’ve got a TD running 27psi with a top mount and never have overheating issues even running 37in tyres.
Before I had a ZD30crd with a turbo and cooler upgrade on 35’s it was a great reliable engine as long as you always have a spare belt tensioner.
The TD makes its power easier than a ZD30 that has to rev harder.
Great feedback mate.
I carry a spare belt and a full pulley assembly as my spare.
Your TD sounds wicked mate.
Cheers Tim.
@@timbates4wdadventures it’s pretty wild but is extremely reliable, the only thing that needs addressing is its weight due to steel tray and canopy. One day I’ll swap it out for aluminium.
Got 545k on my td42, front mount, 18psi, never had any issue with overheating. It doesn't matter what you do to it, the TD42 doesn't like more than 25psi. Run a top mount with anything over 20psi & you WILL run into overheating issues. I've seen far too many stuffed crd 3.0's to ever consider one for myself. One dodgy injector with the crd & it's rebuild time. Same issue with a TD & it just won't run real well until you replace the injectors. The TD has solid timing gears to so no timing belt/chain to service. Can't beat the TD for reliability through simplicity. Like you said, the TD will get you home & being a remote solo traveller, that is the most important thing to me.
G'day mate,
Your TD sounds like a wicked build. They are a top motor thats for sure.
Thanks heaps for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
do you think that 25PSI would cause the td motor to over heat, as the turbo just blows hot air?
Also i looked at some TD42s on Wikipedia and it turns out that they do a semi fuel injection version, which means only the fuel pump is controled while maintaining the mechanical action of the fuel injectors
I'm rocking a ZD30Deti, 01 GU.
188,000Kms
Twin locked
33s
2inch lift
Tourer setup
Going grouse so far!
I run a redarc 2 in one gauge. The only reason i say this is because it is a game changer because it allowed you to set a max boost and max egt alarm where it chimes and glows bright red. Not having to look is very pleasant.
Gday mate
I have the same Redarc gauge in my Patrol.
I haven’t set up high range alarms.
Might one day.
Cheers Tim
2005 ZD di 450,000 just over kms on the clock been unstoppable and never had a spanner to it. It takes me anywhere i point it in my books a winch is optional. Actually had to replace the alternator 😅 at 430,000kms
Hi met I have same vehicle automatic but that engine quite a bit slow do you have any idea increase the power thanks
@@chinthakawickramarachchi9542 Hey dude. If you got a DI patrol and need extra power first thing to do is going with a Hi Flow air filter. Paper airfilter can suffocate. Also I have put on a 3 inch exhaust and a snorkel. Made a huge difference everything stock. Next will be Tuning the turbo to have extra blow.
You can still get grey imports zd30s here in the UAE, but they are all sold on to other countries. No one really uses diesel here, even for working vehicles. You can also still buy the y61 with the 4.8l petrol. Even older ones with 300k+ on them fetch a good price. Just fantastic in the sand and you still see a lot of the Y61 pickups being used by businesses. The local lads love tuning the 4.8 to insane amounts of horsepower!I love my 2001 Y61, but I can’t imagine using at as a long term ‘tourer’ or ‘overlander’ outside of the GCC. You’d need to tow a tanker along with you. My daydream is to get a nice 90s Y60 with the red velour interior and some decals of the local sheikhs on the rear window and then have the 4.8 conversion done. That would be a real Gulf classic. Perhaps one day I’ll get to Oz and have the chance to drive a diesel Patrol.
G'day mate,
Thats unreal whats still available. We sure dont have them here to buy.
Hope you get over here some day, and get behind the wheel of a diesel Patrol.
Thanks mate for your reply and feedback.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures Tim there are lots of Patrol Parts here in the Philippines just in case you know someone travelling back to AU they can bring along some parts.
Just about to roll over 600,000 on my td. It's still stock as a rock penrite 20w60 every 5k, never done anything more than replace injectors, good compression, no blow by & needless to say, it's never even thought about getting hot. It makes a snail look fast but I wouldn't hesitate to take it to the Simpson tommorow.
Thats wicked mate.
Still stock. thats gold and great number on the clock.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
why the injector replacement, did you want an upgrade
@@nathanreid2974 Injectors wear out
@@gqwarrior6694 Have you heard of the semi fuel injection of the td42, it means that only the fuel pump is controled
@@nathanreid2974 That's just the description of the injection system. I'm not sure what your point is.
I have a 2002 GU TD42T, bought it factory spec zero mods. Urban driving temps were normal. But driving up a long hill on the highway egt would go 500+ and engine temps would go 95+. Later found out that the previous owner had turned up the fuel screw to “get more power” this is the issue with TD42s and owners not knowing what they are doing. Adding more fuel and boost will give more power but there is stil one part missing and that’s timing. With more fuel and boost you need the correct timing to match. I’ve done a fair bit of work on my TD42 and I’m making close to 200hp at the wheels on 25psi and I struggle to get egts more then 400. Only time I’ve seen above 400egt is towing the boat up a hill on the highway.
Hello tim,
Thanks for the Q and A on the engines mate.
What powers the patrol now since the zd30 CRD is fased out
Thanks mate it was an interesting chat
The Patrol is now powered by a V8 Petrol.
Cheers Tim.
Hi Tim.
I thought for a second there you were saying you had put a V8 into your patrol. Haha I had to re-read the question. I was about to ask if you had blown the ZD
@@thecarpetcleaner no his Zd's fine, but he was saying that the patrols now have a V8 petrol.
It would be interesting to know what CC that is, as the petrol maybe on the joucy side, and it being a V8 then yea its going to be thirsty.
I thought the Zd was still in production, and when i searched for patrols in the passed i am sure i saw a diesel option but that being said, i did see lately the V engine apear frequently. I didn't conect the 2 and 2.
I don't know why they couldn't put a direct injection common rail in it, the DCI system is cleaner
@@timbates4wdadventures i had a ghought ocure to me today about the td42.
Do you think the emitions failiours, come from people run rediculars high boosts, to run more boost means more fuel, and more fuel means more smoke.
The td42 is a machanical motor as we all know, and loads of people like the td42 as a result, but that also means the machanics of the td42 make it easy for people to play with, vus the td42 popularity may speak for td42s in general.
I owned both, the ZD30 was far better on road than the TD42 but when it came to off road I found the 4.2 was better the one thing that gave me the shits with the ZD was the throttle when doing slow rock crawling. I actually sold my ZD because it cracked the head.
Great video and I do think the ZD gets a bad wrap.
G'day Paul,
Thats interesting with you owning both models and how you found them.
The ZD sure does get a bad wrap from those early years.
Thanks mate, i appreciate your reply and feedback.
Cheers Tim
agree on the ZD throttle response. Since fitting an aftermarket throttle controller to my 2012 ZD 5 speed, i find it much easier to control when offroad in the rough stuff.
Im running 35psi in my td42 with a big daddy topmount intercooler. Never had a overheating issue and i druve it hard. I have a had a td with overheating issues and it turned out to be the face that the waterpump bolts upto had some minor capitation pitting. Fixed it and never overheated again.
Great setup mate with your TD.
Cheers Tim
Isuzu dmax 4jj1. You can now buy the adapter kits for them. Very cheap plus a big availability 😀
G'day Dean,
This engine has got a lot of comments over the Cummins conversion.
Thanks for that mate.
Cheers Tim
Just look after your zd put a catch can on it change oil every 5-8000 I have my egr blocked and my glow plugs on a switch and help prevent cracking the head and I’ve have one problem with overheating and it was the thermostat 19 year old nav going strong
Saludos cordiales desde Barcelona España yo tengo un Gr y61 del 2002 .3.0 todo de origen y Estoi contentisimo
I’m in such a rut wanting to buy a 4.2 but right now they are around 30-35k average. Some up to 50+k. Although have been in second thoughts on the zd30 as I owned one and in 2 years I went through 2 radiators and 1 turbo. 2000 model. You said we can’t go backwards in having a zd30 and dropping a 4.2lt. So I couldn’t have a 2005 zd30 and drop a 2005 factory 4.2 or reconditioned into it? Thanks legend.
Yeah mate, the 4.2s are getting very high dollars. They sure are sort after.
I still like my ZD30 with over 385000ks on the clock and still going strong.
Thanks heaps for your feedback mate.
Cheers Tim
Hi Tim
I drive Toyota’s so can’t really comment on the patrol other than they are a great looking 4x4 but like you said the emissions standards are catching up with all car makers.
Yeah mate, emissions are taking down some really good motors. Thats for sure.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
why can't manufactorours move towards the DCI route, Direct Injection Common Rail
Hiya bud I'm new to patrols and trying to learn as much as I can with them I'm in the UK and noticed that early Y61 over here had a TD6 2.8 and then the ZD30, I'm seeing mostly TD42 and ZD30 videos on here from Australia did you guys not have the TD6 2.8 or is that more a European option and if so is it a good engine or one to avoid? Any feedback would be appreciated
Gday mate
We did get the 2.8 Patrol over here in Australia, they just weren’t very popular.
The 2.8 was a petrol.
A mate of mine once had one, but converted it to straight gas.
It went well.
The Zd30 and TD42 are the main to engines in the GU Patrol over here.
I’d probably steer clear of the 2.8 and look at one of the other two engine sizes.
Thanks mate for your reply and for dropping in from the UK.
Cheers Tim
The 2.8 IV seen was advertised as a TD6 a 2.8 diesel but it had an issue with the injection pump which a couple of people have said to me that getting hold spares for that engine can be a nightmare it's a year 2000 so an early ish Y61 I think, I was half thinking it might be a candidate for a Merc OM606 swap
@@alex79buckland yeah, getting parts could be an issue for some items.
The Y61 still has plenty of spare parts available.
I bought my td42 diesel engine and it's really amazing compared to my zd30 although my zd30 engine is fixed in a Nissan hardbody but all in all I mostly prefer driving my td42
G'day mate,
You have the best of both engines going on.
Both great motors.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures Thanks mate
I have the tb48, like the grunt
Wicked mate.
Cheers Tim
1998 RD28T, 360,000k just recently completed a Colson track/ French line trip, 1/5/23. Standard off the shelf except for a 40ml suspension upgrade, lovely old car fo touring the outback.
Gday Ralph,
Mate, that’s unreal Ks you are getting from your Patrol and the trips you are going on with it.
Top stuff mate.
Thanks for your reply.
Cheers Tim
My Zd30 Di 2004 model is running great 309.867kms on clock running strong done off road work with it on raod of course i tow a austrack camper that weighs 1400kgs and never had a drama
I jave the nads kit as people call done egr blocked off
Catch can
Dawes valve
Uograded intercooler all alloy welded tanks
Just replaces the radiator with 3 core alloy one from fenix great radiator my temp gauge never goes over 1/4 temp
Have egt gauge and boost aswell after market high flow turbo 3" stainless exhaust just looming at remap now for little bit more towing grunt other than that its running great service amd oil every 5000kms to 10.000 kms with out fail dont mind my zd30 to be honest
Talk it up all you like but I've owned both, upgraded both and so I know.
Simple facts:
ZD30 needs $5k for engine work to perform but even so is gutless off idle which kills low range off road. Cliff like drop in power over 3.5k revs means frantic gear shuffling on the highway. Max 1500 rpm usable rev range is hopeless. So auto is needed. And Yes they do grenade...
TDI42 needs $15k for a real turbo, intercooler and fuel pump after which it will deliver 225kw to the rear wheels equalling a Malloo ute.
Usable rev range is over4000rpm with smooth power all the way.
Zero heating problems with good maintenance.
Market says it all. Dozens of ZD30 avail for under $15k while TDI42 is $40k plus IF you can get one.
Got a mate who's GQ td42 overheated and engine blew up. Spent $20000 on an engine rebuild and adding a heap more power to it. Was'nt done right and overheated and blew up again. Spent another $20000 fixing it and getting it right and the power has been wound back a bit. Seems to be going good for him now.
That'll happen when you throw dollars at a motor that wasn't designed for big numbers without throwing some intelligence at it to. Expensive way to learn the lesson
Sounds like my mates TD. Threw big bucks at it and had nothing but dramas.
Wound back the boost big time and now it's a good motor.
Still goes well though.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
Thats it mate.
Cheers Tim
Im planning to buy a 2016 nissan patrol zd30 crd and would you recommend it?
That’s totally up to you mate.
Mine has 365000ks on the clock, and it’s still going strong.
But I’ve had it since new and I’ve serviced it very well since buying the Patrol from new.
I don’t know the service history of the Patrol you are looking at, and how it’s been treated.
Like any second hand car, have them checked by a good mechanic.
Cheers Tim
Hey Tim who has done all the work on your ZD30. I’m based in Melbourne and keen to find someone who knows those motors well.
G'day mate,
Diesel Tune Australia in Dandenong.
Have a chat with Matt if you call them and mention this video.
They are really good mate from just a general service to after market engine mods.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
Thanks Mate. Very much appreciate your reply!! Keep the vids coming, would love it if you could suggest a few itineraries for 2-3 days in the High Country for beginner to intermediate tracks. It is quite a way to go so would love to spend a 2-3 or even days but unsure which routes would be suitable to link up. Would make a great vid! Cheers
ZD30 are a great motor with huge tuning potential. People are now starting to swap out their TD42s for ZD30s. Both engines are very reliable and simple.
Gday mate,
Yeah both of the Nissan motors have big potentials.
The mighty ZD30 goes well that’s for sure.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
i worked for a country nissan dealer we sold 75 new zd30 patrols of these 13 had to have new motors 32 had to have new injection pumps and 16 had to have new cylinder heads and 11 needed new intercoolers all under warranty some of them had all 3 motor, pump and intercooler all of them from early models and most failed before 100,000 k later models appear to be better , i was responsible for all warranty paperwork and nissan never hesitated in covering all warranty jobs on them except those that were clearly abused
@@Paul-md8ms that sounds more like the vp44 ZDs. They were a turd. The CRD are great!
Tim heaps High respect but you cannot bet 42 just purely for reliability just as good is the 1HDT
As I said you are lucky 3 L owner. three of my mates all have done Ls swap
G'day Phil,
I sure arent saying the ZD is the better motor.
The TD is well proven over a long time.
Not sure if it's luck with mine or good management.
Hope it keeps going for a long time yet.
Thanks mate for your reply.
Cheers Tim
GU is still made for Middle east market with tb48 engine as of now
Maybe mate.
The petrol 4.8 was never a popular 4wd here.
Heaps of power though. Just thirsty on fuel.
Cheers Tim.
Yeah it is mate
Cool mare.
Cheers Tim
If she blew a head gasket that’s a fail unfortunately. I’ve owned both "stock" the 3 litre is best by a mile over 4.2 in stock form. But the 4.2 petrol ( square bore) or 4.5 leaves em both for dead for reliability and that’s all that counts in the bush. My 89 gq has 1 million 200 thousand k,s original motor radiator and I still own it won’t get that out of the diesel without a new $4000 pump. Has done all the major tracks including being stuck half way access the Jardine river never stopped.
G'day Peter,
Sounds like you have some good Patrols with both motors.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
you didn't change the diesel pump, or did you
Love my patrol
Love the zd30
ZD30 for me as well mate.
Cheers Tim
With the decline of sulphur in diesel fuel these days, do you use a substitute lubricant in the tank for your common rail diesel? I've been using the Fuel Doctor for a few months now and do feel the vehicle engine operates smoother. Just read that lubrication in the upper cylinder is quite important for the common rail, which is why today's fuel is considered poor quality for these engines. Cheers Brendan (Patrol'n)
G'day mate,
No, the only additive i put in my fuel tank is anti freeze during winter.
Other than that, nothing but diesel goes in the tank.
I have heard about these additives you mention.
One day i might try them out.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures Not a problem Tim. Brendan (Patrol'n)
@@patroln48 no worries mate.
The exact reason I don’t run a catch can on my CRD Patrol. Our engineer finds a lot of modern diesels wear out the intake valves due to the lack of lubrication when catch cans are fitted. Turning off the Egr is the go 👍🏼
@@det7474 with a blanking plate?
Just purchased a 2001 di zd30 with 380xxx from my friends dad who’s own it since new which was very looked after seems alright so far see how long I can let it last aha
In saying that I had a 80 series 1hdt that needed a rebuild by the time it got 320xxx Which are suppose to be superior
I have two mates with Td gq patrols one died at 290x due to the radiator cap release was too high (wrong cap) and pressure burst out everywhere else
Another mates 570xxx 3rd head still ticking well
Look after it mate, and it should go alright.
Thanks for your reply.
Cheers Tim
Hey Tim, Have you had you disc brakes upgraded?
Gday Robert
No mate. Still on the standard braking system.
Cheers Tim
cheers bud
@@clarkey59 No worries at all mate.
I own a GU 2010 Patrol ute ZD30 stock standard, takes 1.3T in the tray and can pull 3.5T. Its a work horse not a race.
That’s the go mate
Build it and use it for what you need it for.
Thanks for your feedback
Cheers Tim
G'day mate, I'm looking at swapping my ss for a 03 zd30 with 320k been around the country twice, Reckon it's worth it?
It has been very well looked after, has service history as long as ya arm apparently
@@mikey6587 G'day mate, just make sure you get it well check out before hand. Great it has a solid service history by the sounds of it. I'd still have it check out by a good mechanic.
All the best with it mate.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures Awesome cheers mate I appreciate the advice
@@mikey6587 No worries mate.
Mines a 04 gu auto wagon diesel 205 on the clock now i do a lot of trailer towing do go a barra conversion next engine
i have 2006 zd 30 patrol just turned over 450000 km
That s unreal mate.
Great to hear ZDs going strong with high Ks on the clock.
Thanks mate.
Cheers Tim
I bought a ZD30 2002 a few months ago, was running well then just wouldn't start. Looks like it's the fuel pump and that is buried in the engine. Thing I'm not liking about fixing the pump is something else had to come off before you can get to the thing you need to work on. I've got 1 bolt on the pump bracket left to get off. Wish me luck for tomorrow please!
Yeah, it can be frustrating working on car engines.
Sometimes you need to remove so many bits to gain access to the part you want as you found out.
Good luck with that one bolt tomorrow mate.
Don’t break it. lol.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures It sure can be but this one has been the hardest I've ever come across.
I got the bolt out and didn't break it!
But I can't get the pump out because the engine mount is in the way.
Can't tilt the pump up so it misses the mount because the disk on the front won't go through the hole. Can't get that disk off either.
Anybody have any suggestions apart from taking the engine out?
@@Aussiesnrg far out mate.
Hope you get it sorted out.
Cheers Tim
2 years ago i made the mistake of putting 81lts of unleaded 61 in my 2003 30lt patrol while towing a 23' caravan and drove it 160k before i took it into a mechanic in Airley Beach thinking i had dirty fuel ! he drained it out put a new filter on and charged me $170 ! it hasn't missed a beat since , 260000 on the clock full service on time every time ..
G'day Billy,
Mate thats unreal how your Patrol is going after that much petrol being run through the motor.
Good thing it is still going well.
They sure are a great motor if they are well looked after.
Mine is now over 370000ks.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim
You sir, have opened up a can of worms 😅
Not at all.
Cheers Tim
3 clutches at just over 300K km did you always replace them with OEM clutches and flywheels? 100 K km clutch life seems very low especially when they are so expensive to replace. Our 2015 GU needs a new clutch at 105 K km we are going with OEM and DMF hope it lasts longer this time, otherwise the last of the y61s are a really nice car.
Gday mate.
I’m currently on my 3rd clutch now with over 400000ks on the clock.
I have replaced the clutch with what came out as standard.
I think it’s a single mass clutch and fly wheel
I’m getting around the 150000k mark out of my clutches.
So, I’m probably getting close again for a replacement.
Cheers Tim.
Thanks Tim we were wondering what you went with as you seem to be in the know with GUs. We went Exedy OEM clutch and DMF after much hesitation as there is so much talk out there with DMFs failing early but I like the idea of more elasticity in the gears that the DMF provides and don't want the vibration issues of the SMF hoping for higher kms this time. Cheers@@timbates4wdadventures
hello guys what do you think about 2012 simpson edition? im thinking about buying one
Gday mate,
As far as I know. The Simpson Edition is the same as a normal GU but with a new addition extras.
Running gear and motor is all the same.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
I don’t know why Nissan diddnt keep developing the v9x engine. The stx550 is so good, still better than most new dual cabs
Gday mate.
Yeah I’m not sure about that.
I don’t know why Nissan didn’t follow Toyotas lead with the small V8 in the 79 Series.
A small V8 in the GU, would have made it a very sort after vehicle.
Thanks for your reply mate.
Cheers Tim.
why does it cost so much for a head gasket replacement on the ZD30 I have been quoted $1300 is that reasonable cheers
That sounds pretty reasonable mate.
As long as you know the mechanic well to trust the quote and the work to be done.
Cheers Tim
Ive got a 2.8 gu for 2 reasons affordability and they will go for ever if not chipped and boost wound up
Gday Joel,
The good ol 2.8 you don’t much about them these days.
That’s great yours is going strong.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
Re racing: An australian performance company made 350rwhp out of a ZD30 with factory intrrnals and races it offroad. The ZD is objectively the stronger motor and the modern technology in them allows for better fuel economy. Its cneaper cheaper to upgrade them as less needs to be done to a healthy motor to make big power.
I’m 5.0 Windsor man my 61 gettin swapped this year
It’s a simple as this. If you can afford a TD42, get one. If you can’t, get a ZD30. You’re welcome.
Don’t agree.
But anyway.
Cheers Tim.
I had 4.2 gq sold at 900000 ks now I have triton now has 500007 ks
Gday mate.
Far out , that’s amazing Ks you have from those two vehicles.
The ol saying goes.
Look after them well and they keep going.
Thanks mate for your feedback.
Cheers Tim
I have alot of friends with v8 landcruisers but my old patrol is more capable, more reliable, tows heavy loads easier, better on fuel and cost half the price including mods. ❤
Gday mate
You can’t beat solid axles front and rear with coil suspension all round.
The older Patrols are very capable rigs compared to other makes.
Thanks mate.
Cheers Tim
Go with an 80 series LandCruiser with a N/A untouched 1HZ 4.2 Diesel. Instead of people being impressed to hear if it gets to 500-600k you'll be surprised to hear people say oh is that's all it's done. 😜
Yeah mate, i know a few 80 series with high Ks on the clock and still going well.
Good that your's is.
Cheers Tim
Got the ZD30 CRD goes great with a tune. the td42 sounds better though.
Same here my tuned crd goes real well and sounds tough on boost but nothing on a td or v8 cruiser noise wise!!
They do sound great mate.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures Cheers Tim
Glad to see another ZD30 CRD Patrol owner showing how amazing the zd30 can be if you look after it.
@@Blueythebear9 Yeah mate even the 80 serious cruisers sound amazing with the 6 cylinders. the zd30 does sound tough with a 3 inch straight pipe too but something about the 6 and the 8 cylinders that just makes you look hahaha.
@@jf9866 yeah mine has straight through 3 inch manta and screams above 2500rpm but still no 6/8 noise. Definately makes the power after tune tho!
how bout a A qd32 t?
Td42 for life
22psi 18g turbo 600x300x75 front mount 12mm pump air box 4inch cab dump 35inch tyres gets flogged everytime i drive it but I maintain it religiously 5000km oil and filter..never been hot,egts never past 400
It has been the best car iv owned reliability wise
Sounds like you have a ripper Td42 mate.
They do go well.
Cheers Tim
Have you change your injectors
Gday John,
No I haven’t.
When the head was replaced a couple of years ago. The injectors were sent away and pressure tested, they came back with great results.
So, they went back in.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures just put a throttle controller 2008 gu .have u got one yours. I believe in changing oil every 5,000 klm. And have always used Penrith 10w-40 . Had a 2010 3ltr pk 4 cylinder ranger had 260,000klm it blew the injector tip apart so I don't think the zd30ddti r that bad if u service them regularly.
@@johnbensley7577 I don’t have a throttle controller mate. I don’t really need it with the tune I have.
I’m using the same oil mate, regular oil and filter changes are the key to an engine going the distance.
Mine has just ticked over 355000ks.
Ummmm running 20psi through a motor that what probably runs 12psi stock or is NA and all that's happening is a bit of overheating yea that's pretty good a
Yeah it’s not bad mate.
Cheers Tim.
Not that I havnt been subscribed for years but just a drunken thought, why don’t people sub to pre much everyone like, it only goes one way.. help out the channel, you don’t get effected by subbing so why not help everyone.
Idk definitely a drunken though lads 🤪🤣
Thanks mate, really appreciate your feedback.
Cheers Tim
4.2tdi. mwm sprint, ford s/duty. 510nm, 140kw, 12;L 100. in a 4t truck.. what, would it be like in a 2.5t truck. plus, theres no computer, all gear driven.. 3 valves , ohc, 3'' ex., std.. no mods needed..mine has 700nm. td06 turbo..
Drop an ls directly in there!
Haha
Nah not for me i think.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures if your patrol has a ls or not your still a fucken ledgend
Let’s put the kettle on haha which one
Haha
Either one.
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures sorry mate they do have a bit of a bad wrap
@@rockbiterhd yeah they do mate.
But it’s a bit of a fun comment that my mate calls the TD and he has one.
Sounds like your pumping that much boost 30psi cowboy tune that's why thay cook them
Who’s pumping 30psi ???
Not my Zd30
Cheers Tim.
Your mate's td42 with heating problems
@@johnadelsback9292 Ahh righto.
Forgot to mention that mine is a DI.
Ahh righto mate.
Cheers Tim
Zd30
tb48. Problem solved.
Could be one way of solving it mate.
Cheers Tim
Tb48 is the real KING of the nissan motors in GUs.
Cool mate. Dont hear about many of them anymore.
Cheers Tim
Just LS3 it
One day maybe
Cheers Tim
Zd 30 is crappy and noisy.TD42 is passable.The petrol 4.5 is crapppp! Best to have a vehicle with a 1hdft in it!!
Tb 48 is your answer and I own a zd 30
If you own a patrol with a zd30 then you have to hand in your man card.. you automatically loose your manhood owning a zd30.. unless your bought it dirt cheap because it's blown up or about to and swapping it out for a 6bt.. then you get your man card back lol.
Most load of rubbish I’ve ever heard.
Cheers Tim
Typical uneducated Muppet comment. Nothing wrong with a zd30 crd. Boost controller catch can and run some boost through them will happily run 20psi+ all day every day reliably!!!!
I wouldn't have either yuck ! Lol
One reason WHY??
Cheers Tim
@@timbates4wdadventures slow
@@timbates4wdadventures must drive a ranger Tim, we can’t all be men. 🍿