I love how informed and aware she is when in comes to world issues but then doesn’t give a fuck when it comes to UA-cam. Sam for President of the World cuz she’d put all entitled, famous for nothing idiots where they belong: on an island all together to fight it out to the death lol.
•S t x r r y_M o o nYT• I’m guessing they think it’s racist because it sounds similar to “colored person” which yeah I agree the term is a little to close to it for me to feel entirely comfortable with but it’s not racist and it’s a perfectly fine way for people to describe themselves.
PoC are totally aware of the term “POC.” No need to tell us what it is. The word “color” has been reclaimed, which is why we say “People of Color.” If you say it, it signifies that you are not “color blind” within the context of race, which we are avoiding. Color blindness is not progress or decolonization.
Legit it always rubbed me the wrong way that Shane, who did black face and other offensive misogynistic “skits” in the early 2000s, was buddy-buddy with a known racist makeup mogul who just happen to be able to “drop” a new pallet via a collab. Like the incentive would always be to make J* look good via a series, both would profit via Adsense, subs, views, and then the physical makeup
“you highlighted the literal one person that has continuously been the most toxic, harmful, racist, misogynistic, threatening individual in the community” GO OFFFFF!! couldn’t have said it better myself
Can someone explain the misogynistic part of that? I truly just want to be educated because I don't think I've heard about that part of JStarr. I'm not for him at all now. I've heard about everything else, just not that part. Somehow I missed that.
Jeffree and Shane: stop dragging me about my past, I was in my early twenties.. Also Jeffree and Shane: James Charles is 19, he should know better and needs to be absolutely perfect.
the fact that Jeffree Star, the most problematic person in the beauty community got Laura Lee cancelled for her racist past and somehow managed not to get cancelled himself for his own racist past speaks volumes to power men hold even in the beauty community. He should have been cancelled years ago
YES!!!!! Shane and Jeffree’s pasts are way worse than Laura lee’s and Manny MUA’s combined. Shane has done blackface and said the n word COUNTLESS TIMES AND PUBLICLY!! FOR YEARS. And y’all already know about Jeffree lmao
Shane: Yes Jeffree is racist, sexist, a liar, backstabber, and manipulative, but who said he needed to be perfect? Also Shane: James Charles has a huge ego and needed a big slice of humble pie. He needed to realize his faults and learn from them.
When you spoke about men in the beauty industry my soul left my body. Men have dominated the beauty industry since the days of Max Factor in the 20's. Women weren't even allowed into the makeup union for film until the 70's. And now most celebrities hire male makeup artists. And don't get me started on the makeup effects community... women deserve better.
pissedpookie it’s hard to choose only female brands when big box stores stock big name brands that have been male run and owned since their conception. Why do men get more sponsors, more investors, etc? Why do these existing brands not out women in charge? That the issue. I’m privileged enough to get to be picky where I spend my money but not everyone has money to be picky with. I can spend a little more to support an eco friendly female brand but I’d never expect the average consumer to do the same. It’s up to existing companies and big box stores to make an effort.
Shane and Jeffree say that their past mistakes are okay because they were young, but James was only 18/19 when they ‘gave him a slice of humble pie’... 🥧☕️
For real, they act like they’re the same age, but when Shane/Jeffree were James’ age they did WAY WORSE things. E.g. blackface, racism, literal sexual assault, pedophilic remarks, predatory remarks, lowkey animal abuse etc.
A couple of quick points about the "negative content": 1. Anti-hauls were originally created (by Kimberly Clarke) as a way to try to change the highly consumerist attitude in the UA-cam beauty community. Where as soon as anything comes out, people are telling you to buy it. 2. Due to the fact that it's hard to trust a lot of the bigger influencers due to non-disclosure of sponsorships, it's easier to trust a "fails" video. 3. It's good to know what products to avoid! 4. The only reason you would think fails or anti-hauls are negative is if you own a business in the cosmetics industry. For consumers, this is all positive.
point 1 i like them, part of me was jealous of being unable to afford half of them so when they started i was like yeah use the common sense, sadly it become a trend that dies down just like proyect pan, low buy and no buy, and also as a trend a lots of big names came in saying that they weren't going to buy something that they already got on pr, and i was like mmmaha of course you don't you already have it. point 2 "Due to the fact that it's hard to trust a lot of the bigger influencers due to non-disclosure of sponsorships, it's easier to trust a "fails" video." it's a paradox, because they have a non -disclose sponsorship that doesn't equate that they have to speak well about a product the sponsorship could also be talk shit about a product, that's happened "aledgelly" to manny mua and the magnetic lashes drama, where him long user of lilly lashes and chronical struggler wearer speak shit about a magnetic lash allegedly pay by lilly to do so, also a bit different the "naturium" drama where susan yarará speak badly about the ordinary while pushing her stupid brand as an alternative. Also they could also be pay to speak better about a different variation of the same product or if they change the formula they could be pay to speak better about the new formula. point 3 we don't need fails to know whats product to avoid, we need comprehensive reviews even if those are first impressions, we need to know ingredients list, undertones, texture, how it's behave with other products "does it likes" silicones, what's the moral compass of the company and does it taste in animals?, etc, fails videos came across as stupid unnecessary over the top and in bad blood especially when the company it's small, also, have you remember the subculture drama, it's was all because fail videos, don't get me wrong the palette wasn't pleasant to use, buut it's wasn't bad or something useless, it's was the precursor for hyper pigmented shadows in fact it came to be because of that. point 4 yes, on and all yes, it's positive for the consumer, but rather than have this sort of content it would have been better if consumers are more educated, well that can come from experts that talk about correct usage, alternatives, whats goes into it, but also consumer needs education in consumerism and it's sad that from minimalism to maximalism you can not like those influencers, i saw a couple of consumerism videos of kimberly clark and by the half of the second one a was rolling my eyes so hard that i could see my brain, but overall consumer need to use their critical thinking for once, there is no reason into why need to but 3 colourpop pallets in a row if you use your eyes you can see them being extremely similar except for 3 shades that you can find it's you unnecessary large morphe palette or in your modern renaissance
“I can’t stand the beauty community, they’re all so toxic there” IS LITERALLY BEST FRIENDS WITH THE WORST PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY LMAOOOOOOOOOOO CANT MAKE THIS UP
He called out Jeffree in the same post you’re quoting and said he was just as toxic? He might be honestly dropping him but he knows if he does that he’s gonna get even more hate cause people are just gonna think he was money hungry
Right?!?? And he says James needed to be knocked down a peg because of his personal flaws, but goes on and on about how we shouldn’t expect Jeffree to work on his own glaring, wildly toxic issues? Total gross hypocrisy. And it’s all because Jeffree lines his pockets and makes him feel special
Just like Sam said of Tati & James: Tati was ‘ok’ with certain behaviors but as soon as James wronged her, she no longer approved. Shane will support Jeffree, make it seem like he’s not excluding Jeffree by directly calling out his toxic behavior. But then as soon as Jeffree and Shane’s friendship goes south, Shane will have no problem coming forward saying he never condoned Jeffree’s behavior. Ugh the two faced-ness of all of this is so disgusting! 🤮
I have ZERO clue what’s going on with this whole situation, but the way your brain works... the way you stop and dissect the situation, is legit. You are an eye opener and I hope you never stop using your platform to voice your opinion. All facts.
The nerve of a man who doesn’t care about makeup at all, to come into this community, stir up a bunch of shit, put the worst person on a huge pedestal, exploit the community for money, then call it all a pile of shit and “leave”. I love that you normally don’t engage in any ambient drama Sam but I also love that you called this for what it is. Tired of men causing us problems and then blaming us for them. (Edited: typo)
Exactly. When he came out with a pallet I thought who is this guy I’ve never even heard of him I never saw him wear make up or anything. Thank God I didn’t buy any of his products and I refuse to buy Jeffree stars products
The worst part no one is innocent in this situation but still they are all older than James and the stuff they said was so hurtful. I was honestly scared James was gonna hurt himself and the worst part we all here drinking this tea 🍵 cause we all love the drama but never thought of the person being accused was a child still cause he’s not even over 21 when it happened and the rest was over 30 or at lease over 25 imagine a 4 grader bullying a kindergartener that’s wild ...
Melody Lopez right? like i was actually so easily swayed when i saw tati’s first video she was so manipulative i literally was on her side until i came to my senses and realized he’s just a kid
I saw in the comments of a UA-cam video on this situation pointing out the weird undertones of homophobia in the Bye Sister video and I can't forget about/unhear that.
I loved how you touched on some REALLY important point that no one has dared to touch before and that is how male beauty gurus climb up the ladder way higher and easier than women. I've seen many talented women not getting the recognition they deserve while man, either white, non-withe, gay or cis get way more attention for WAY less. I'm so tired of seeing women work their ass off just to get a fraction of the recognition male beauty gurus get. Because let's be real, they get all that attention just because they are men. Your whole video is perfect. Everything you said is just SO true. I feel everyone should be watching this video.
The OG Michelle Phan. She deserves all the recognition for creating an industry, an empire, a platform and tearing absolutely nobody down the entire way to the top. She keeps to herself, stays true to her own career path and growth and has never dissolved into drama or clickbait. She is the beauty community creator.
Seriously. And she herself had to leave the community in part because of people tearing one another down, just like is happening here. Regardless of the target, if you can't focus on contributing to the net good of a community like Michelle has always done, and you have to make any video or leave a comment degrading another human you haven't even met, you are the problem. We should all be better. Gossiping gets you nowhere.
I swear that it makes me so mad that people are saying that Jeffree Star is one of the OG of the beauty community or “the king” beauty guru . First of all, Jeffree Star doesn’t even do his own makeup, he has stylists and makeup artists to do that for him, and when he did his own makeup it ended up in something like his MySpace era which was, no offense, the most ugliest makeup I’ve seen on somebody. Didn’t it seem strange that in Shane’s first Jeffree Star docu series, when Shane wanted to “become” Jeffree Star, Jeffree invited James to do Shane’s makeup? Why? He couldn’t do it himself? Or is he too rich to omg do makeup? The audacity some people have to give these so called “beauty gurus” a platform and them to have more recognition than people like Michelle Phan who did love makeup and she spread nothing but pure positivity to the whole beauty community. The drama that Shane is talking about is just Jeffree Star.
Shane : *going through a long ass list of yes/no questions* Jo Bennett from The Office voice: Oh, stop asking yourself easy questions so you can look like a genius
Shane: doesn't like drama Also Shane: hangs out with and supports the person who is involved with 90% of all drama or inserts himself into drama that doesn't involve him *Drama: happens* Shane: *surprise pikachu face*
hijacking the top comment to say that Tati's primary accusation against him was "hitting on straight guys" which is virulently homophobic. Guess what, women deal with getting hit on all the time by people we are not attracted to. Adult men can handle getting hit on by a gay person. The suggestion that a gay man is doing something wrong or predatory by simply hitting on a straight man is HOMOPHOBIC. Not to mention how Tati reacted to her Black fans when she initially did her first video with Jeffrey; she blocked them, shut them down, had her boyfriend take to instagram to tell her fans to stop "bullying" her (puke and cringe*). Rather than listening to the many thoughtful and concerned comments by her black viewership was low key racist. Tati is an elitist and honestly trash. Sorry not sorry.
jasminejs Agreed! And to add on to your point think about the straight men who hit on women and then get angry and violent with them when they find out they’re not into men. It’s a thing!
I’m so glad someone is finally stating how we hold women in beauty to a significantly higher standard than the men in beauty! I’m sick of women being pushed aside in general and especially in an industry that is majorly supported by women and some how the men are seen as underdogs.
It blows my mind that we put men (e.g., James Charles, Jeffree Star and a great many others) at the top of the beauty industry--an industry mostly supported by women. Do we seriously hate women that much? ;(
There are so many examples of women who are far more creative, trustworthy, less problematic and yet they don’t get enough credit. Sorry, but James Charles didn’t know how to use the right shade for how long? 🤷🏽♀️
Unless you're on some sort of social media you don't exist I supposed. But commenters aren't toxic for thinking that way LOL All the professionals who don't have makeup channels because word of mouth is all they need as opposed to attention aren't "trendy".
@@natanyaparsons8491 exactly!! Of course it was going to be full of drama if he only focuses on the most dramatic people. The Beauty community is so much more than that!
So Shane was basically shaming “all” beauty gurus for acting shady & selfish and manipulative but it was okay that Jeffree is like that because they are friends? That literally makes no sense.
Please never delete this video lol. I come to watch it again from time to time because it's just so incredibly satisfying. You didn't miss a beat it's so smart and accurate and feminist I love it. Thought I'd let you know xx
I didn't know how much I needed to hear this. Seeing a woman articulate such an intelligent response and stand up for your community and friends was a stunningly powerful example. LOVE THIS.
Not to mention that 12 million doesn't include what he's made with Jeffree on merch and the make up and all restocks since then. Imagine he makes 70% of all merch sales. Plus 35 % of the make up sales. He's way passed 12 million now. That's what he was worth in the beginning of 2019.
HERE FOR THIS. Also- thank you for recognizing how men in makeup actually dominate and earn huge money. CEO of Sephora? A man. CEO of Estee Lauder? A man. CEO of L'oreal- a man. CEO of COTY (owns Tarte, Sally Hansen and more) a man. CEO of Proctor and Gamble (owns Olay, Rimmel, Garnier)- a man. Just SAYIN.
A-wo-MEN 🙌🏼 These pricks pocketing billions of dollars off of women’s insecurities and pressure to look a certain way. For the entertainment of who? Why, them of course. Though I’m glad women are genuinely just doing makeup for themselves now it still bothers me that the people in power are men 🤮
Shane’s popularity is perplexing. He’s is making a living acting cutesy and ohhhhh look at me and how real and vulnerable I am I’m just like all of you except I’m a multimillionaire! He offers nothing of value and he’s boring. He comes off as having a savior complex as if he’s such a pure, innocent angel. He tosses in his weight issues and personal flaws to endear himself. Ugh.
It’s interesting how Mr. Yaw seems to embody all the seven deadly sins. Pride: A false sense of humbleness may fool you but his incapability to accept critique is a great example of his massive ego. Gluttony: He gorges himself on food constantly to come across as some quirky guy who just wants to eat cake and cry all day. Sloth: When you are so lazy you don’t get up to go to the bathroom and just pee in bottles instead, you really have become sloth incarnate. Envy: it’s very clear by his jealousy over all the success of other youtubers merch and the envy of people like Jeffree who are apparently “so rich compared to him” that he has to constantly bring it up. Greed: I have never seen a man more greedy than a man who would partner with some one to sell a make up palette when they themselves have an entire brand that is literally about being ugly fat pigs who don’t put effort into your appearances. Lust: we’ve all seen his horrific “jokes” about children. Wrath: We’ve also seen his awful live stream where he reacted to Tati’s video, not to mention he has made numerous “jokes” about killing women and children for minor inconveniences like being slightly annoying.
It’s like somebody’s *PLUS ONE* announcing loudly that they are “leaving this lousy party”, meanwhile the hostess is like “who was that dude and why was he here?”
Because Jeffree is "family"!!1!!!!1! Shane couldn't possbly bear to give Jeffree a slice of that same pie, which pretty much nulls every point he made in his rant about James. Shane was more okay with James getting bullied from all sides of the internet & having Tati talk about his mom to millions of viewers.
Abigail Maggard i actually think that despite the way jeffree behaves he is very aware of it and he had come a long way to his success. Yes he fucked up many times but stood up for himself. Younger generations are very used to get whatever the fuck they want in a second and not work harder for it and i guess thats what drives him crazy and gets the worst out of hin. Im not saying by any means that it is ok to throw this amount of shade on everyone else cause there is a lot of very hard workers out there. but still, i think that jeffree knows where he comes from and people need to be reminded more often about it.
I lost ALL respect for Shane when he did that “game” and spoke about Trayvon Martin. “Maybe you wouldn’t have been walking in the streets if you had a job”. Disgusting!!! I can’t believe people still watch him.
taz coles you can look up Dee Shanell Shane Dawson on the UA-cam search bar and she reacts to a compilation of all the problematic things Shane has done. For reference it was game called “Talk Shit” and random things and names were drawn out of a hat and the point is to talk shot about whatever is pulled out. IMO id personally take the L if Trayvon came up
Barby Russo he was a 17 year old who was walking home wearing a hoodie, carrying a bag of skittles and an Arizona. He was fatally shot by George Zimmerman with no motive. Zimmerman was tried and did not receive jail time or lose his job. He’s actually PROFITTED from the murder he committed by attending white supremicist conventions and signing autographs of bags of skittles.
I don’t like how Shane is using his anxiety to be a shitty person. Saying he’s too sensitive for all this negativity and drama coming at him. He’s the one who added to the drama, and knew James was feeling anxiety during the whole thing. Just hypocritical to me, tbh. AND even if someone was deserving of a “slice of humble pie” I’m sorry, but that’s NOT the way to do it. Just malicious.
Stephanie Lieber yes, if anything, talk to them in private about it, not everything needs to be public and made into a huge deal on UA-cam. That’s not good for anyone.
he’s using it as a shield, he literally stirred this up and now is too sensitive and anxious to deal with the consequences of his actions. i’m a very anxious person and that has NEVER stopped me from trying to be the best person i could be and dealing with the consequences of my actions and mistakes. it’s not an excuse or a pass!
I cut someone out of my life who used their mental health as an excuse for their shitty actions. Its not an excuse at all especially if its been going on for years
Damn Kate! I was drinking coffee when I read that and it almost came out of my nose. Be careful with your words, coffee is hot and that could have killed me. LOL
I don't ever remember drama in the beauty community being this insane until the beef between Kat Von D and Jeffree Star. How ironic for racists to be calling out other racists for being racist while they themselves are still racist.
I don't even understand this whole 'the beauty community is SO toxic' I swear all the beauty community drama is always the same 10 people having the same arguments over and over again. 99.9% of the community keep well out of all that bs!
I love how he assumes that he was ever considered a part of the beauty community... I only ever saw Shane as someone who did a collaboration for money and then had to act somewhat interested in beauty products to further promote his collaboration?
Ok I’m not really into makeup or anything, but I honestly found it kind of insulting how he tried to paint himself as an up and coming beauty guru in the series when he had only been practicing makeup for what... a couple months?? Like don’t get me wrong, everyone starts somewhere and that’s ok, but most gurus have been doing makeup as a hobby for YEARS prior to trying to make a career out of it. It just reads to me the same as someone who’s only been playing piano for a month trying to make a name as a reputable piano teacher when they barely know how to play themselves.
Someone who knows nothing about beauty and never even posted a look. No one in beauty starts at the top. It takes time to learn to apply makeup and how he decides to make a palette then oh I am going to be a beauty UA-camr now. Why? You liked the thought of being rich, just like the people you just shamed! Smh ugh I get a headache just trying to think about it.
An interloper that dropped in to exploit the community and ended up having a massive negative impact on it then flipped everyone the bird on his way out!
I think she decided to distance herself a while back. I think she didn’t want to associate with them anymore. Jeffree in his video with Garrett said he asked Jenna for a collab and she said no. I thought he was joking but honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually said no.
Shane’s 2 closest friends on UA-cam (Jeffree and Trisha) are the most toxic and drama centric people of ALL of UA-cam!!!!! Stop surrounding yourself with drama if you “don’t like drama”
he’s that one person who befriends dramatic/popular kids at school just to merge themselves into someone else’s drama. he loves to hear about it. he did that when James and Tati had drama and posted Tatis product (i forgot what it was called).
That stuff you said about Shane acting like he's poor is so true! He wears dirty shirts, and jokes about how poor he is/was. I had never seen Shane as a rich person. I think he really thought that through. Edit: you're incredibly well-spoken, and I subbed
Yeah right lmao when I saw drama channels saying "Shane Dawson is leaving the beauty community", I was like "since when was he even IN the beauty community?!" 😂
Wow, it's so noble of Shane to "leave" the beauty community while still collecting those Conspiracy palette checks and being friends with the most controversial person in the beauty community. We love a martyr. 🙄
@@mayra5440 I blame those companies for not seeing what most people did by the end of the series. This was a cash-grab. Shane broke into a lucrative market, got a taste, and got out. Anyone with eyes could see he didn't give a rip about makeup passed what it could do for him.
Armed NotTriggered I know but it bothers me so much that there are thousands of bgs that actually showcase products and they just sent them to a dude that only uses js
@@mayra5440 Yeah. It's a bummer. But I'm sure they were thinking how great the exposure would be if Shane Dawson, new bg extraordinaire, who literally broke the internet with his first palette launch took five seconds to review their new lipstick. I don't blame them for chasing a potentially lucrative advertising gig because everyone would have been paying attention to what Shane was using and it would have made the company buckets of cash, if he gave a crap about makeup. I'm just hoping he donated the stuff he never used or at least gave some to Morgan so it wasn't completely wasted.
A Ravndahl Rant... A Samantha Spiel, if you will.... I would like to also add that 2020 has us seeing so many things we never thought we would, but who could predict Sam would become SO enraged that she uploaded TWO videos in one day?! Who had that for June?
I would like to add that Tina (The Fancy Face), Whitney Hedrick, and Ti (nappy headed jojoba) are some incredible creators that I’ve been following for a while. Also, if you wanna kick it old school and didn’t come here by way of Stephanie Nicole 3 years ago like I did, check her out too.
Kathleen Lights... my all time favorite UA-camr since I started watching beauty videos. She’s so humble & sweet. She’s so genuine & you can tell she’s here simply for the love of makeup.
Sam thank you so much for posting this. I’ve felt the glass ceiling closing over the beauty community for years and it’s not an illusion. Thank you for bringing all this up 🙏
When Shane said "you're top viewed videos are probably 'Makeup fails' and 'Anti Hauls' with vomit emojis" I thought of Kristi's video about 'the truth on Jacyln Hills lipsticks' and yeah it's her most viewed video but she took time away from youtube and then made a follow up video stating that after that video she got a massive spike in subscribers and it scared her and a lot of people came for her over it. And I got DEFENSIVE, because Kristi is a wholesome lady, she made money off that video but the makeup came before the tea and money. sorry for the rant but lumping people like Kristi, JamieGeniveive, Alana and Sam into the same group as all the Drama channels, gives me the shits
The only issue I have with this video is the incorrect information regarding the Shane x Jeffree series. They were pretty clear from the beginning that the point of the series was to highlight the exact production process--from concept to release--for makeup products, specifically palletes. In the series, they are also extremely transparent with the amount of money that is made in that process, but also shed light on some things behind the scenes that are extremely unfair (such as Too Faced ripping off NickieTutorials, which--if anything--validates your point about a male-dominated industry leaving less for the visible women in the community). While I don't see any of these miscommunications in your video as problematic to your point, I fear many will stop listening at that point and paint the rest of the video as unresearched, etc.
@@therealgaberyan Just commented this somewhere else but, well, no. Shane did two series with Jeffree, and the first one was all about Jeffree and his 'struggles' and him and Shane becoming best friends. The end of that series is when they announced their intention to release a palette and film the process, resulting in the series that was just about the palette months later. That is what she was referring to when she said it was planned from the start but they tried to make it seem like it wasn't.
i LOVE the analogy you made with the transparent sandwich shop guy to the anti haul videos. totally agree and i freaking love them for that reason. you are so introspective and i’m obsesseddd new sub here
i’ve never clicked so freaking fast. that title? *chefs kiss* the intro? immaculate. the pure attitude and shade in the first 3min? breathtaking. update: this entire video is nothing but facts, sam did NOT stutter, and the top 1% of the beauty community needs to fucking do better.
shane really gave himself a youtube god complex with all those series he did "saving" problematic youtubers... you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas my dude
One of the first red flags I saw with Shane (besides the racism?) was that he told Jake that his product placements in his video were too long and manipulated kids into wanting to buy his merch....AND THEN PROCEEDS TO CREATE A SEVEN PART SERIES MANIPULATING PEOPLE INTO BUYING HIS SHIT. The hypocrisy is unreal.
I can only IMAGINE how pissed on some beauty creators are that Shane just shows up to the beauty community, makes a palette with an bad person like Jeffree, makes millions and then says “I won’t be posting about beauty anymore” blah blah blah.
I mean, did anyone really take him seriously as being part of the beauty community tho? He made the channel shane'Glossen' or whatever knowing people were expecting him to make beauty videos on there as if he was actually going to do it then big surprise, he bails. He never took makeup or the beauty community seriously and I don't think he ever intended to keep posting about beauty after he made all his monies. This was just the perfect excuse to get himself out of it without his fans asking why. And yeah, of ALL of the people he chose to highlight in the beauty community it's Jeremiah Starfish? Really? He could have done so much more with a 'docuseries' on beauty by highlighting smaller creators, or talking to the people who view beauty content and why they love it or whatever. He could have brought attention to some really unknown talents here on YT but didn't. Meanwhile you have creators busting their asses who have talent, are nice people like Sam and actually cut their teeth being real makeup artists, then Shane just comes in, picks some colors, names them and calls it quits? So stupid.
“Women have to work twice as hard to get half as far” SAY IT AGAIN Even in “our” industries it’s always men getting celebrated for doing something “different” and ditching gender roles
I don't know what kind of fucked up shit goes on the U.S. but I've always had so many more female bosses than men and they always seem to get away with so much more shit. lol UK though so maybe different
dave Payneflip yes completely different. The US has basically prided itself on being misogynistic, until finally enough women have spoken up about it to get it noticed and therefore something to be done about it. But we haven’t gotten too far yet. The US still needs to go a long way before we can be considered equal. And that’s on the Pay Gap in America. The mistreatment of women in America. And on the misunderstanding of equality in America.
dave Payneflip I’m not sure what experiences you have had but I can certainly say that they are not the norm and uk workplaces are a hotbed of misogyny. The pay gap exists in the UK, senior management roles are still consistently filled by white men and when women are placed in positions of power they are held to a much higher standard. I would reflect on your experiences more.
@@charlottedavis8827 girl I've been working in restaurants here for 18 years now and always had female mangers except 2 men lol. So it's a pretty good chunk of experience. Never is the gender thing brought up as an issue
When Shane/Jeffree were 20 they were racists... when James was 20 he was “egotistical”... these 30/40 y.o’s went after a literal 19 year old. These are not the same. The hypocrisy is insane.
I wish people would stop throwing the word "racist" around so liberally. It only does a disservice to actual racism that goes on in society. Making light hearted dumb/silly videos doesn't make someone a racist. Distasteful humor to some, sure but it wouldn't qualify them as an actual racist. Jeffree on the other hand - may actually be racist. And no, I'm not a Shane stan.. I just possess a strong dislike for the fact that people flail around this word like it's nothing nowadays.
bass kitten808 they are racist tho. Jeffree has run after black woman in the street saying racial slurs and that’s just the tip of the ice berg, and Shane has done blackface.... like the word “racist” definitely isn’t being just thrown around here.
bass kitten808 See, I wish people would stop dismissing racism that isn’t systemic. Situational racism is still racism. Micro aggressions, still racism. Racist comments, jokes, and caricatures, STILL RACISM. Still worthy of being called out. The term is not being flailed around. Racism is just really really pervasive in our society and it shows up in more ways than one. What Shane has done IS RACISM. He literally said the n word...
I think shane compares himself to jefree and compared to him yes he is poor. Idk if it's on pupose, I know shane is always hard on himself, even if hes not poor
Julie Diana I don't think it has anything to do with Jeffree, because he's made comments like that way before they met. It's just part of his "relatable" sense of humor.
People in my country literally are protesting because they don’t have ANYTHING to eat, it’s really disgusting that Shane goes to the world saying he is poor
brooo. he was really poor when he was a kid. he became rich from youtube. but it probably hasn't sinked in. So he says Im poor he kinda is joking and talking bout his childhood or something like that. Idk i watch his content and i dont really care when he says that. Idk i saw a comment questioning the same thing and one guy responded with something like this.
Renārs He lives in a mansion and buys his friends first class plane tickets, he also has designer clothing (that he doesn't wear in his video because it doesn't fit his image) I'm pretty sure it has sinked in. He's been living with money for a very long time. He STARTED off by making comments like that because he was a poor kid at heart when he started making money... but at this point, it's just part of his sense of humor and his brand.
So glad you brought up the sexism element, even in makeup men still have the power. For instance Jaclyn Hill is no angel and has definitely partook in some shady business practices but that is in no way equal to racism, misogyny, sexual harassment & assault accusations and yet she is ridiculed and in a sense still "cancelled" to this day while J* gets off scott free and still has an innumerably large fan base. One of these things is not like the other, oh right ones a woman.
I watched Shae's video and a lot of people commented that Jaclyn's products were bad but at least Jeffrey's products are good products. I don't understand how or why that makes anything okay but therr were quite a few comments like that. The mentality is definitely off on that, in my opinion.
When Tati first collabed with Jeffree star, I commented on her video that I was so disappointed, that he ruins everyone and would ruin her. She deleted my comment. I unfollowed her and never watched her again and then I saw the James situation blow up. So here we are. JEFFREE STAR WILL RUIN EVERYONE HE COMES INTO CONTACT WITH. Stop supporting him.
She collabed with JS because prior to that she felt like an outcast in the beauty community because everyone was thriving in drama. Sadly I think she was aiming to get a little bit of drama to entertain people but I don't think she was expecting that level of backlash or damage. It's weird how Jeffree enjoys destroy anyone who he comes in contact, wish will happen eventually to Shane as well.
Shane: "i hate drama and i'm sick of it, that's not me so I'm stepping away" also shane: "to the beauty gurus who pretend to be above it all, stop it all of you love the drama"
"I hate drama, I'm tired of it and I'm stepping away" *also Shane, in the same paragraph* "You all just like messy negative videos, it's ok, I get it, I do too-"
You put into words what I have been thinking about for years. Historically, women who were into makeup were put into a box labeled materialistic, superficial, ditzy and dumb. The beauty community on youtube was laughed at until it was "validated" by people like Jeffree, James, Manny, etc. and now it has this reputation of being toxic. I've been watching beauty videos on UA-cam since 2007 and toxicity like this didn't exist until very recently. When people realized they could profit off of drama, that became their business model and as a community as a whole, we bought in. We have the power as the viewer to change this.
I’m not even that interested in makeup, (because I can’t do it well lol) but wow I love the way you worded your whole comment because it is sadly very true.
I agree. I've been into makeup since 2010 and back in the day I'd always get comments on how "you only do it for guys" or "guys like girls with less makeup, you know that right?" or "wow, you spent 45 mins on your makeup? I couldn't imagine wasting my time like that..." but as soon as men entered the stage it was like "what brave, creative, inspiring artist they are, just out there creating thier art!!!". Don't get me wrong, I support equality, I think men have just as much right to being in makeup as women and I love that it's accepted for them to wear makeup now, however this is a two-way street. Don't call women out for wearing makeup and praise the men, cause it annoys me that all tyipically femal dominated things are uncool untill a man/men come along and make it cool.
EXACTLY. that’s why real makeup artists like Pixiwoo are leaving UA-cam slowly. YT is trash now. It’s not what it was when I started watching makeup videos.
I know you are angry and hate Shane Dawson but it is not okay to call him a sociopath, that’s trying to diagnose some one with something that isn’t even a real medical term. If you do that you are no better than Shane Dawson since he did the same thing with jake paul. Be angry, cancel him, make him feel like shit and ruin his career all you want, you have my support, but calling him a sociopath is inaccurate and an invasion of privacy.
If anyone needs a slice of humble pie, it’s him. The audacity of two grown, 30-something-year-old men to bully a 19-year-old boy to the point of becoming suicidal.
@@rhodopisdenile8977 Sociopathy is a real mental illness it's not made up trust me I know someone who is diagnosed with it. As a person who has BPD, GAD and PTSD I completely agree with you with every other word in your comment. Mental Illness is stigmatized enough (especially BPD, people assume I'm like Onision and Amber Heard when I'm not) and most people don't know pretty much every mental illness is isn't black and white it's a spectrum, 2 people can have the same illness and act nothing alike. Idk what caused this rise of keyboard psychologists but I'm blaming Better Health (because I can lol) and they don't know slapping a mental illness on someone because they don't like them makes someone who has that illness ashamed or embarrassed bc they think that if they share their diagnosis their friend will compare them to that person they don't like in their head. Sorry if I'm rambling and not explaining myself well I'm over tired and can't pass out but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
The fact that Shane started his message with “welcome to the circus” goes to show how disingenuous it all is. He should have known what he was getting into when he entered the beauty world next to Jeffree’s side... the most toxic of them all.
I'm proud of you, I really used to love Shane, but idk he seems to have lost himself I know I don't know him personally, but maybe hellsee this a revaluate himself 💚
cindy ruiz Hi! He tweeted and deleted a huge message (everything Sam read at the beginning of the video was what he wrote). I’m sure you can find screenshots on twitter or any drama channel’s video about it!
Look at his wording. “I’m in the hurricane” is like it’s something that happened to him rather he should say “I stepped into the hurricane” because it was his choice. The shades on his palette make it obvious that he knew what he was doing.
Didn't he mention that he was envious/ jealous of people younger than him making more money? I remember it was in the Jefree StarXShane series, I watched a clip of it. Idk maybe I'm imagining things.
@@Moonlight-um5fw I think he did. Iirc it's when he and Jeffree talked about how much did Shane earn from selling his merch. Also, if Im not wrong it's the part of where shane said why he made joke he's poor. He didn't gain as much as young generation UA-camrs do now 🤔
Shane is manipulative and can't stand criticism. He will get himself in drama while it benefits him, but then he starts taking the heat, suddenly he jumps off and has to make you feel guilty for having called him out. This didn't happen just now, it has been his pattern for years. 6 years ago he was manipulating, being nasty, deflecting criticism and all that when he was filming his film and this was documented on a reality series. Last year when people were calling him off for showing drama in the trailer for views but then not delivering what he promised, he also made a dramatic statement to make people feel guilty for having called him off. Or the way he handled the Franchesca situation 2 years ago and wanted to manipulate her and make her feel bad for having called him out on his racism. This is Shane since ever, a classic manipulator way before he came across the beauty community.
MidoriGa95 Ha! Poor in his $3M home, buying multiple vehicles, publicising holidays on SM. The majority WISH they were that ‘poor’. I reckon he’s never said that to be relatable, but has outright manipulated his naive audience for years. I unfollowed years ago when it became clear he’d gone elitist.
I wanted to comment “we must defend Sam at all costs” but it’s the other way around. She defends us because she knows what it means to be a genuine person. Please never leave Sam, UA-cam needs you
The funniest thing is that the majority of these popular male "make up artists" don't posses 1/5th of the talent of smaller female MUA's. If a woman did her make up as poorly as Jeffree Star or James Charles she'd be laughed at. But because it's a man doing it: "OH YASSSS WERRK QUEEN"
that was a big part of why I realized that he has just been manipulating his fans all this time. I really thought he was a sweet and misunderstood person but I see now that he has not changed and maybe he never will.
@@baileyerinsmith4680 she has attacked and berated countless minority groups as well as individual people (including her own "friends"). If you still like her despite all that, at least be aware that she is definitely not a good person
If a woman acted like Jeffree Star she'd be the most loathed human on the planet.
Jacki Hyena acts very similar lol
So true. He’s the worst. Literally no other content creator has a rap sheet like him... there’s just so much.
I don't think I've ever read something truer in my whole life damn I never even thought of it that way!
YES
exploited fight I don’t know much about Jackie, what does she do
Shane: “I am leaving this toxic community.”
From the back of the crowd: “He doesn’t even go here!”
🤣🤣🤣🤣
HAHAHAHA!!!
😆😆😆
😂😂👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
IM GAGGING
Sam not remembering Jake Paul’s name was actually the biggest flex on all of us
I love how informed and aware she is when in comes to world issues but then doesn’t give a fuck when it comes to UA-cam. Sam for President of the World cuz she’d put all entitled, famous for nothing idiots where they belong: on an island all together to fight it out to the death lol.
I am kind of jealous
Someone said “ Shane has done more blackface than makeup “ and they didn’t lie 😌
THIS. lol I love my PoC community. I'm PoC and Shane Dawson was always offensive to me.
@Bobby Sands how is that racist?
@Bobby Sands how is that racist? be quiet
•S t x r r y_M o o nYT• I’m guessing they think it’s racist because it sounds similar to “colored person” which yeah I agree the term is a little to close to it for me to feel entirely comfortable with but it’s not racist and it’s a perfectly fine way for people to describe themselves.
PoC are totally aware of the term “POC.” No need to tell us what it is. The word “color” has been reclaimed, which is why we say “People of Color.” If you say it, it signifies that you are not “color blind” within the context of race, which we are avoiding. Color blindness is not progress or decolonization.
“you took the beauty world so seriously in 2019 because you were profiting off of it” MY JAW DROPPED
I literally clapped at that stament 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Legit it always rubbed me the wrong way that Shane, who did black face and other offensive misogynistic “skits” in the early 2000s, was buddy-buddy with a known racist makeup mogul who just happen to be able to “drop” a new pallet via a collab. Like the incentive would always be to make J* look good via a series, both would profit via Adsense, subs, views, and then the physical makeup
Me yelling at my phone: “YES BITCH!!!!”
When I tell you I gasped
I feel like Sam could have dropped the mic and walked away... brilliant!
“you highlighted the literal one person that has continuously been the most toxic, harmful, racist, misogynistic, threatening individual in the community” GO OFFFFF!! couldn’t have said it better myself
I'm really hoping this is the era of JStar being held accountable!
I felt it right there
@@selty I can't believe it's taken this long tbh!
Can someone explain the misogynistic part of that? I truly just want to be educated because I don't think I've heard about that part of JStarr. I'm not for him at all now. I've heard about everything else, just not that part. Somehow I missed that.
🎤 drop!
Sam is 100% the realest. Never expected her to speak on this, but I’m so happy she did. “You can’t leave a community you were never a part of.”
Jeffree and Shane: stop dragging me about my past, I was in my early twenties..
Also Jeffree and Shane: James Charles is 19, he should know better and needs to be absolutely perfect.
THIS!!! 100%
@d b I doubt he's SpillSesh since that's one of the drama channels Tati says she contacted before uploading Bye Sister..
At 19 I knew to not sexually assault people. JS
!!!!!!!
Violetta Mikalina people think spillsesh is Morgan Adams. Would make sense for tati to speak to Shane’s sister in law’s secret drama channel....
the fact that Jeffree Star, the most problematic person in the beauty community got Laura Lee cancelled for her racist past and somehow managed not to get cancelled himself for his own racist past speaks volumes to power men hold even in the beauty community. He should have been cancelled years ago
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
Oh my god yes
YES!!!!! Shane and Jeffree’s pasts are way worse than Laura lee’s and Manny MUA’s combined. Shane has done blackface and said the n word COUNTLESS TIMES AND PUBLICLY!! FOR YEARS. And y’all already know about Jeffree lmao
He was even MORE racist then her
It's no surprise. Jeffree fans = self hating kids of Trump voters.
"you took the beauty world so seriously in 2019 because you were profiting off it" DROPS MIC. AMEN SISTAAAA!
Nothing else needs to be said....
TRUTH.🙌
Shane: Yes Jeffree is racist, sexist, a liar, backstabber, and manipulative, but who said he needed to be perfect?
Also Shane: James Charles has a huge ego and needed a big slice of humble pie. He needed to realize his faults and learn from them.
yes omg if james is egocentric and needs to be humbled then WTF DOES JEFFREE NEED
@@haibaraui it means Jeffree is so bad no one can humble his ass 🤪
OMG LITERALLY
This post shows you didn’t watch Shane’s video but ok
@@uyagraph he definitely got that 🥧 today and a variety of other pastries
Samatha, so well said... "You weren't part of this community; you were a part of its cash flow" GIRL, well. said.
“You can’t leave a community that you were never a part of”
*mic drop*
When you spoke about men in the beauty industry my soul left my body. Men have dominated the beauty industry since the days of Max Factor in the 20's. Women weren't even allowed into the makeup union for film until the 70's. And now most celebrities hire male makeup artists. And don't get me started on the makeup effects community... women deserve better.
pissedpookie it’s hard to choose only female brands when big box stores stock big name brands that have been male run and owned since their conception. Why do men get more sponsors, more investors, etc? Why do these existing brands not out women in charge? That the issue. I’m privileged enough to get to be picky where I spend my money but not everyone has money to be picky with. I can spend a little more to support an eco friendly female brand but I’d never expect the average consumer to do the same. It’s up to existing companies and big box stores to make an effort.
👏👏👏👏👏👏👏 it also shows when working for the public and trying to break into the industry!!!!
Peach it
UA-cam made sure to highlight this in their rewind also. It makes me sad they can’t recognize both.
Yes!!
Shane and Jeffree say that their past mistakes are okay because they were young, but James was only 18/19 when they ‘gave him a slice of humble pie’... 🥧☕️
For real, they act like they’re the same age, but when Shane/Jeffree were James’ age they did WAY WORSE things. E.g. blackface, racism, literal sexual assault, pedophilic remarks, predatory remarks, lowkey animal abuse etc.
TEAAAAAA
They were OLDER then james now
They never said their past mistakes were okay, lol
@@Kizamo they were older than James. They knew better. Just shows the kind of people they are.
A couple of quick points about the "negative content":
1. Anti-hauls were originally created (by Kimberly Clarke) as a way to try to change the highly consumerist attitude in the UA-cam beauty community. Where as soon as anything comes out, people are telling you to buy it.
2. Due to the fact that it's hard to trust a lot of the bigger influencers due to non-disclosure of sponsorships, it's easier to trust a "fails" video.
3. It's good to know what products to avoid!
4. The only reason you would think fails or anti-hauls are negative is if you own a business in the cosmetics industry. For consumers, this is all positive.
Right. Saying you don't like a product is not a personal statement 🤦♀️
Kimberly omg what a cutie I remember watching her
point 1 i like them, part of me was jealous of being unable to afford half of them so when they started i was like yeah use the common sense, sadly it become a trend that dies down just like proyect pan, low buy and no buy, and also as a trend a lots of big names came in saying that they weren't going to buy something that they already got on pr, and i was like mmmaha of course you don't you already have it.
point 2 "Due to the fact that it's hard to trust a lot of the bigger influencers due to non-disclosure of sponsorships, it's easier to trust a "fails" video." it's a paradox, because they have a non -disclose sponsorship that doesn't equate that they have to speak well about a product the sponsorship could also be talk shit about a product, that's happened "aledgelly" to manny mua and the magnetic lashes drama, where him long user of lilly lashes and chronical struggler wearer speak shit about a magnetic lash allegedly pay by lilly to do so, also a bit different the "naturium" drama where susan yarará speak badly about the ordinary while pushing her stupid brand as an alternative. Also they could also be pay to speak better about a different variation of the same product or if they change the formula they could be pay to speak better about the new formula.
point 3 we don't need fails to know whats product to avoid, we need comprehensive reviews even if those are first impressions, we need to know ingredients list, undertones, texture, how it's behave with other products "does it likes" silicones, what's the moral compass of the company and does it taste in animals?, etc, fails videos came across as stupid unnecessary over the top and in bad blood especially when the company it's small, also, have you remember the subculture drama, it's was all because fail videos, don't get me wrong the palette wasn't pleasant to use, buut it's wasn't bad or something useless, it's was the precursor for hyper pigmented shadows in fact it came to be because of that.
point 4 yes, on and all yes, it's positive for the consumer, but rather than have this sort of content it would have been better if consumers are more educated, well that can come from experts that talk about correct usage, alternatives, whats goes into it, but also consumer needs education in consumerism and it's sad that from minimalism to maximalism you can not like those influencers, i saw a couple of consumerism videos of kimberly clark and by the half of the second one a was rolling my eyes so hard that i could see my brain, but overall consumer need to use their critical thinking for once, there is no reason into why need to but 3 colourpop pallets in a row if you use your eyes you can see them being extremely similar except for 3 shades that you can find it's you unnecessary large morphe palette or in your modern renaissance
“I can’t stand the beauty community, they’re all so toxic there” IS LITERALLY BEST FRIENDS WITH THE WORST PERSON IN THE COMMUNITY LMAOOOOOOOOOOO CANT MAKE THIS UP
He called out Jeffree in the same post you’re quoting and said he was just as toxic? He might be honestly dropping him but he knows if he does that he’s gonna get even more hate cause people are just gonna think he was money hungry
Kristiana Renèe to still excuse his actions because he’s “jeffree fucking star” is so annoying and headass truly
@@elrose171 people are gonna think he was money hungry because he was money hungry
Right?!?? And he says James needed to be knocked down a peg because of his personal flaws, but goes on and on about how we shouldn’t expect Jeffree to work on his own glaring, wildly toxic issues? Total gross hypocrisy. And it’s all because Jeffree lines his pockets and makes him feel special
Just like Sam said of Tati & James: Tati was ‘ok’ with certain behaviors but as soon as James wronged her, she no longer approved. Shane will support Jeffree, make it seem like he’s not excluding Jeffree by directly calling out his toxic behavior. But then as soon as Jeffree and Shane’s friendship goes south, Shane will have no problem coming forward saying he never condoned Jeffree’s behavior. Ugh the two faced-ness of all of this is so disgusting! 🤮
He didn't describe the beauty community, he described Jeffree, himself and his friends. Your headline summed it up so perfectly.
Truuuueeee
Shane: befriends one of the most toxic people in the community
Shane: omg why is this community so toxic
EYEoftheneedle if that’s not codependency then IDK WHAT ELSE IS.
He’s toxic too lol I think him and Jeffery suits each other... they should just stay together😅
Shame is drawn to toxic people because he's cut from the same cloth. He was problematic long before befriending Jafar
THIS SO MUCH URGHH
Lolol
I have ZERO clue what’s going on with this whole situation, but the way your brain works... the way you stop and dissect the situation, is legit. You are an eye opener and I hope you never stop using your platform to voice your opinion. All facts.
Alexis Arlene Perez I still don’t understand what’s going on 😂
The nerve of a man who doesn’t care about makeup at all, to come into this community, stir up a bunch of shit, put the worst person on a huge pedestal, exploit the community for money, then call it all a pile of shit and “leave”. I love that you normally don’t engage in any ambient drama Sam but I also love that you called this for what it is. Tired of men causing us problems and then blaming us for them.
(Edited: typo)
Ellie that last sentence. YES.
This should be top comment just for that last sentence. Well said!!
That. Last. Sentence. *standing ovation*
Preach 🙌🏼
YESSSS
Shane: the beauty community is toxic, meanwhile the beauty community is collectively excited and celebrating Kristi being pregnant
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
YESSSSS!!!!!
EXACTLY!
And following Desi’s infertility journey as well ♥️ so beautiful and supportive
Yessss!!!
“You can’t leave a community you were never a part of” 👏 👏 👏 thanks for this video Sam. You killed it!!!!!! Everything is so true.
She wasn’t the first one to say that lmao people have been saying that for days on twitter.
True but she has a lot of fans and exposure thankfully, something a lot of us don’t have. I think that’s what the original person meant :)
Yes👏
The first person ever to say “I’m just gonna dive right into it” and actually mean it.
"I hate drama" is a phrase used almost exclusively by people who love/create drama.
LOUDER.
as Taylor would say "I swear I don't love the drama, it loves me".
YES!!!
Literally all of those shitty “commentary” channels. Like bro you’re the one fanning the flames
SO TRUE!
“You only took it so serious in 2019 because you were profiting off of it” 👏🏽
Read this right when she said it and it scared the shit out of me 😂
uuuuffff the roast 💀
That 👏🏾 was 👏🏾 it 👏🏾💯💯💯💯
Exactly. When he came out with a pallet I thought who is this guy I’ve never even heard of him I never saw him wear make up or anything. Thank God I didn’t buy any of his products and I refuse to buy Jeffree stars products
falsely accusing someone of being a predator is not a “slice of humble pie”
James almost killed himself over the
" slice of humble pie"
The worst part no one is innocent in this situation but still they are all older than James and the stuff they said was so hurtful. I was honestly scared James was gonna hurt himself and the worst part we all here drinking this tea 🍵 cause we all love the drama but never thought of the person being accused was a child still cause he’s not even over 21 when it happened and the rest was over 30 or at lease over 25 imagine a 4 grader bullying a kindergartener that’s wild ...
Melody Lopez right? like i was actually so easily swayed when i saw tati’s first video she was so manipulative i literally was on her side until i came to my senses and realized he’s just a kid
I saw in the comments of a UA-cam video on this situation pointing out the weird undertones of homophobia in the Bye Sister video and I can't forget about/unhear that.
Braxton Bourque as if that’s was more bull just him playing the victim , James is just as bad as the other toxic UA-camrs
I loved how you touched on some REALLY important point that no one has dared to touch before and that is how male beauty gurus climb up the ladder way higher and easier than women. I've seen many talented women not getting the recognition they deserve while man, either white, non-withe, gay or cis get way more attention for WAY less. I'm so tired of seeing women work their ass off just to get a fraction of the recognition male beauty gurus get. Because let's be real, they get all that attention just because they are men.
Your whole video is perfect. Everything you said is just SO true. I feel everyone should be watching this video.
It’s sad cus I can’t think of any female gurus that just stand out as quick as anyone can say Jeffery star crazy
The OG Michelle Phan. She deserves all the recognition for creating an industry, an empire, a platform and tearing absolutely nobody down the entire way to the top. She keeps to herself, stays true to her own career path and growth and has never dissolved into drama or clickbait. She is the beauty community creator.
Seriously. And she herself had to leave the community in part because of people tearing one another down, just like is happening here. Regardless of the target, if you can't focus on contributing to the net good of a community like Michelle has always done, and you have to make any video or leave a comment degrading another human you haven't even met, you are the problem. We should all be better. Gossiping gets you nowhere.
I swear that it makes me so mad that people are saying that Jeffree Star is one of the OG of the beauty community or “the king” beauty guru . First of all, Jeffree Star doesn’t even do his own makeup, he has stylists and makeup artists to do that for him, and when he did his own makeup it ended up in something like his MySpace era which was, no offense, the most ugliest makeup I’ve seen on somebody. Didn’t it seem strange that in Shane’s first Jeffree Star docu series, when Shane wanted to “become” Jeffree Star, Jeffree invited James to do Shane’s makeup? Why? He couldn’t do it himself? Or is he too rich to omg do makeup? The audacity some people have to give these so called “beauty gurus” a platform and them to have more recognition than people like Michelle Phan who did love makeup and she spread nothing but pure positivity to the whole beauty community. The drama that Shane is talking about is just Jeffree Star.
He and Kandee Johnson for me. And Lauren Luke. Those were the people I used to watch like crazy back in the old UA-cam days!
And look at her, she's thriving, skin glowing, face never-aging, and has an amazing and successful makeup brand!
"You can't disagree with an issue while still profiting off of it." Not sure where I heard that, but there we go.
Falsely accusing a young adult of a crime is not “humbling”, it’s traumatic.
It's actually and ironically criminal. It's called difamation.
@@auromz9848 **defamation
If he is young doesn't mean he can be a pervert and people should be fine with it he is disgusting 😒
@TheTitanicShipper also not to mention that those false allegations almost made him want to take his own life, but I guess people forgot that
Kisanii but they aren’t false
Shane : *going through a long ass list of yes/no questions*
Jo Bennett from The Office voice: Oh, stop asking yourself easy questions so you can look like a genius
This is everything
exactly what i was thinking while reading it LMAO
I LITERALLY THOUGHT THE SAME THING lmaooooooooo “was that mean thing actually mean? yes” like omg
my thoughts exactly😭
My thoughts EXACTLY
Shane: doesn't like drama
Also Shane: hangs out with and supports the person who is involved with 90% of all drama or inserts himself into drama that doesn't involve him
*Drama: happens*
Shane: *surprise pikachu face*
hijacking the top comment to say that Tati's primary accusation against him was "hitting on straight guys" which is virulently homophobic. Guess what, women deal with getting hit on all the time by people we are not attracted to. Adult men can handle getting hit on by a gay person. The suggestion that a gay man is doing something wrong or predatory by simply hitting on a straight man is HOMOPHOBIC. Not to mention how Tati reacted to her Black fans when she initially did her first video with Jeffrey; she blocked them, shut them down, had her boyfriend take to instagram to tell her fans to stop "bullying" her (puke and cringe*). Rather than listening to the many thoughtful and concerned comments by her black viewership was low key racist. Tati is an elitist and honestly trash. Sorry not sorry.
jasminejs Agreed! And to add on to your point think about the straight men who hit on women and then get angry and violent with them when they find out they’re not into men. It’s a thing!
He’s talking crap about beauty gurus starting drama like he didn’t encourage, document, and publish even more drama for the whole world to see
He regrets that :/
Christinabean96 LMAOO he’s a 30 year old man and continues to entertain the idea of James being a predator.
@@Christinabean96 ok?? Him regretting it doesn't erase the hypocrisy of his actions
Girl 😂
Bbq sauce I don’t think he entertains that idea...But I see your point. I also agree that James was never a predator tho
I’m so glad someone is finally stating how we hold women in beauty to a significantly higher standard than the men in beauty! I’m sick of women being pushed aside in general and especially in an industry that is majorly supported by women and some how the men are seen as underdogs.
Omg SAME! I was so glad she mentioned that.
Yes! Yes! Yes!! This was my favorite part of this video. No one talks about it!
Yes!!!
It blows my mind that we put men (e.g., James Charles, Jeffree Star and a great many others) at the top of the beauty industry--an industry mostly supported by women. Do we seriously hate women that much? ;(
There are so many examples of women who are far more creative, trustworthy, less problematic and yet they don’t get enough credit. Sorry, but James Charles didn’t know how to use the right shade for how long? 🤷🏽♀️
You can't call yourself a beauty guru if you've never even posted an actual beauty video sitting down and putting on makeup by yourself
@@sienna9626 naw
@@sienna9626 No
Lps Sienna ..no
Unless you're on some sort of social media you don't exist I supposed. But commenters aren't toxic for thinking that way LOL All the professionals who don't have makeup channels because word of mouth is all they need as opposed to attention aren't "trendy".
@@sienna9626 no.
SHANE DID NOT MAKE A SERIES ABOUT THE BEAUTY COMMUNITY. HE MADE A SERIES PROMOTING HIS PALETTE.
👏👏
Exactly!!
I see no lies here
Yes!!!! I honestly hated it, because it was hyped up to be something completely different.
@@natanyaparsons8491 exactly!! Of course it was going to be full of drama if he only focuses on the most dramatic people. The Beauty community is so much more than that!
So Shane was basically shaming “all” beauty gurus for acting shady & selfish and manipulative but it was okay that Jeffree is like that because they are friends? That literally makes no sense.
👏🏻👏🏻 well said!
Issa hypocrite 🙄🙄 the fact he wrote that and don’t see that is crazy
What? He literally says he isn’t okay with it?
Laura Rowland I was asking :)
Laura Rowland well he did say it’s Jeffree what do you expect like other people have to change their behaviour but because it’s Jeffree it’s okay
i love how everybody loves Raw Beauty Kristi.
That’s because she’s our real dad
She’s a literal ANGEL! Like how could you not love her?🥺 i want to be her friend in real live she seems like a happy lil fairy 😭🧚🏻♀️🤍
Because she's literally amazing. I also agree with Gabrielle. She IS OUR REAL DAD.
Of course they do! She is The best! 💗
@@gabriellewilliams4505 lol yes!
Please never delete this video lol. I come to watch it again from time to time because it's just so incredibly satisfying. You didn't miss a beat it's so smart and accurate and feminist I love it. Thought I'd let you know xx
I didn't know how much I needed to hear this. Seeing a woman articulate such an intelligent response and stand up for your community and friends was a stunningly powerful example. LOVE THIS.
Smokey Glow also did an amazing video standing up for the beauty community!
I felt the same way and definitely second the Smokey Glow recommendation! ❤️
Sam for President of the World right? Lol she’s a natural born leader. If anything she needs to write speeches for people.
I'm not familiar with Smokey Glow. I'll check them out now. Thank you for the recommendation.
He has an estimated worth of $12 million. If that’s poor I need to relearn the meaning of wealth. This proves money cannot buy you morals.
Not to mention that 12 million doesn't include what he's made with Jeffree on merch and the make up and all restocks since then. Imagine he makes 70% of all merch sales. Plus 35 % of the make up sales. He's way passed 12 million now. That's what he was worth in the beginning of 2019.
HERE FOR THIS. Also- thank you for recognizing how men in makeup actually dominate and earn huge money. CEO of Sephora? A man. CEO of Estee Lauder? A man. CEO of L'oreal- a man. CEO of COTY (owns Tarte, Sally Hansen and more) a man. CEO of Proctor and Gamble (owns Olay, Rimmel, Garnier)- a man. Just SAYIN.
A-wo-MEN 🙌🏼 These pricks pocketing billions of dollars off of women’s insecurities and pressure to look a certain way. For the entertainment of who? Why, them of course. Though I’m glad women are genuinely just doing makeup for themselves now it still bothers me that the people in power are men 🤮
Yet Jeffree will act like he’s doing something ground breaking by being a white man and owning a company 🙃
Rachael Fitzpatrick LMAO
Men in women dominated fields... I've heard it being called the glass escalator.
dolledupbyj thank you, I’ve always wanted to say something but never spoke up.
Shane’s popularity is perplexing. He’s is making a living acting cutesy and ohhhhh look at me and how real and vulnerable I am I’m just like all of you except I’m a multimillionaire! He offers nothing of value and he’s boring. He comes off as having a savior complex as if he’s such a pure, innocent angel. He tosses in his weight issues and personal flaws to endear himself. Ugh.
He got famous for being relatable and funny
I don’t like how he acts poor, when he lives in a mansion.
i used to love watching his videos with his older friends, like where is that Shane at lmao
Alina Plainhappy “funny”
It’s interesting how Mr. Yaw seems to embody all the seven deadly sins.
Pride: A false sense of humbleness may fool you but his incapability to accept critique is a great example of his massive ego.
Gluttony: He gorges himself on food constantly to come across as some quirky guy who just wants to eat cake and cry all day.
Sloth: When you are so lazy you don’t get up to go to the bathroom and just pee in bottles instead, you really have become sloth incarnate.
Envy: it’s very clear by his jealousy over all the success of other youtubers merch and the envy of people like Jeffree who are apparently “so rich compared to him” that he has to constantly bring it up.
Greed: I have never seen a man more greedy than a man who would partner with some one to sell a make up palette when they themselves have an entire brand that is literally about being ugly fat pigs who don’t put effort into your appearances.
Lust: we’ve all seen his horrific “jokes” about children.
Wrath: We’ve also seen his awful live stream where he reacted to Tati’s video, not to mention he has made numerous “jokes” about killing women and children for minor inconveniences like being slightly annoying.
It’s like somebody’s *PLUS ONE* announcing loudly that they are “leaving this lousy party”, meanwhile the hostess is like “who was that dude and why was he here?”
💀💀😭😭😭GIRL I- sis really read him for FILTH
I’M HOLLERINGGGG this was the most perfect analogy I’ve ever seen
LMAO this comment!!!!
There is literally no better way to describe it imo
Your comment is the best one yet.
why does james charles need “a slice of humble pie” but jeffree star doesn’t???
you need a tall glass of STFU
Because Jeffree is "family"!!1!!!!1! Shane couldn't possbly bear to give Jeffree a slice of that same pie, which pretty much nulls every point he made in his rant about James. Shane was more okay with James getting bullied from all sides of the internet & having Tati talk about his mom to millions of viewers.
@@seedplanter7173 ...what? 😆
THIS. Agree 100%
Abigail Maggard i actually think that despite the way jeffree behaves he is very aware of it and he had come a long way to his success. Yes he fucked up many times but stood up for himself. Younger generations are very used to get whatever the fuck they want in a second and not work harder for it and i guess thats what drives him crazy and gets the worst out of hin. Im not saying by any means that it is ok to throw this amount of shade on everyone else cause there is a lot of very hard workers out there. but still, i think that jeffree knows where he comes from and people need to be reminded more often about it.
"you werent part of this community, you were part of the cashflow" YYYYYYYYYEEEEESSSSSS
I lost ALL respect for Shane when he did that “game” and spoke about Trayvon Martin. “Maybe you wouldn’t have been walking in the streets if you had a job”. Disgusting!!! I can’t believe people still watch him.
Where was this? Like the video/website/channel etc? Sounds awful though
Yeah I might just be out of the loop but I had no clue he said that. Do you know where I can find it?
taz coles you can look up Dee Shanell Shane Dawson on the UA-cam search bar and she reacts to a compilation of all the problematic things Shane has done. For reference it was game called “Talk Shit” and random things and names were drawn out of a hat and the point is to talk shot about whatever is pulled out.
IMO id personally take the L if Trayvon came up
Who is Trayvon Martin?
Barby Russo he was a 17 year old who was walking home wearing a hoodie, carrying a bag of skittles and an Arizona. He was fatally shot by George Zimmerman with no motive. Zimmerman was tried and did not receive jail time or lose his job. He’s actually PROFITTED from the murder he committed by attending white supremicist conventions and signing autographs of bags of skittles.
It's like how cheaters think everyone cheats, Toxic people think everyone is toxic.
Holy shit. I couldn't agree with this statement any more😩
Fact!
💯 Accurate
Love this
THIS
I don’t like how Shane is using his anxiety to be a shitty person. Saying he’s too sensitive for all this negativity and drama coming at him. He’s the one who added to the drama, and knew James was feeling anxiety during the whole thing. Just hypocritical to me, tbh. AND even if someone was deserving of a “slice of humble pie” I’m sorry, but that’s NOT the way to do it. Just malicious.
Jessica exactly you don’t humble people by bullying, lying, criticizing and destroying them. Awful.
Stephanie Lieber yes, if anything, talk to them in private about it, not everything needs to be public and made into a huge deal on UA-cam. That’s not good for anyone.
he’s using it as a shield, he literally stirred this up and now is too sensitive and anxious to deal with the consequences of his actions. i’m a very anxious person and that has NEVER stopped me from trying to be the best person i could be and dealing with the consequences of my actions and mistakes. it’s not an excuse or a pass!
Lauren Couto yes! 100 percent.
I cut someone out of my life who used their mental health as an excuse for their shitty actions. Its not an excuse at all especially if its been going on for years
Shane is the beauty youtuber version of "I'm not like other girls"
Kate Armstrong lmaooo yes
Never read anything quite so accurate.
If I could like this a million times... I would
Oh no lololol
Damn Kate! I was drinking coffee when I read that and it almost came out of my nose. Be careful with your words, coffee is hot and that could have killed me. LOL
Drama in the beauty world did not start until Jeff came on. Could he just disappear now. Wish it would go back
SO TRUE!!!! 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏 👏
Before J* it was all about reviews and makeup skills.
This comment is relevant and needs to be at the top. Swear
Not denying he's a problem, but there was most definitely plenty of drama - just not dedicated channels and forums advertising/profiting from it.
I don't ever remember drama in the beauty community being this insane until the beef between Kat Von D and Jeffree Star. How ironic for racists to be calling out other racists for being racist while they themselves are still racist.
And she did NOT stutter.
Amen to this! I was actually so impressed 👏🏻😂
PERIOD
that’s on period.
BREATHTAKING. MAJESTIC. “You can’t leave a community you were never a part of.” GODDESS. *chef’s kiss*
I don't even understand this whole 'the beauty community is SO toxic' I swear all the beauty community drama is always the same 10 people having the same arguments over and over again. 99.9% of the community keep well out of all that bs!
Exactly!!!
True. I hadn't thought about that but I'm sure that's what they wanted.
i absolutely adore how unapologetically outspoken you are
UA-cam really needs a “you read my mind and then articulated it better than I ever could” button
“You can’t leave a community you were never part of.” 🙌🏼
"Here's the thing you took the beauty world so seriously in 2019 because you were profiting off of it" FACTS
Jeffree isnt just "on the list" of problematic gurus, he's at the VERY top. No one's more problematic than him
I love how he assumes that he was ever considered a part of the beauty community... I only ever saw Shane as someone who did a collaboration for money and then had to act somewhat interested in beauty products to further promote his collaboration?
SAME 😭😭😭😭😭
Ok I’m not really into makeup or anything, but I honestly found it kind of insulting how he tried to paint himself as an up and coming beauty guru in the series when he had only been practicing makeup for what... a couple months?? Like don’t get me wrong, everyone starts somewhere and that’s ok, but most gurus have been doing makeup as a hobby for YEARS prior to trying to make a career out of it. It just reads to me the same as someone who’s only been playing piano for a month trying to make a name as a reputable piano teacher when they barely know how to play themselves.
Someone who knows nothing about beauty and never even posted a look. No one in beauty starts at the top. It takes time to learn to apply makeup and how he decides to make a palette then oh I am going to be a beauty UA-camr now. Why? You liked the thought of being rich, just like the people you just shamed! Smh ugh I get a headache just trying to think about it.
Shane was a hanger on .. right pain in the ass
An interloper that dropped in to exploit the community and ended up having a massive negative impact on it then flipped everyone the bird on his way out!
jenna is more part of the beauty community than shane ever was
she supports Shane and Jeffree doesn't she asdflgkh
Beautuber!
Jenna Marbles?
S. S Tipton nah she quietly distanced herself.
I think she decided to distance herself a while back. I think she didn’t want to associate with them anymore. Jeffree in his video with Garrett said he asked Jenna for a collab and she said no. I thought he was joking but honestly I wouldn’t be surprised if she actually said no.
Shane’s 2 closest friends on UA-cam (Jeffree and Trisha) are the most toxic and drama centric people of ALL of UA-cam!!!!! Stop surrounding yourself with drama if you “don’t like drama”
And he never holds them accountable 👀
You forgot his "daughter" tana. The lot of them are a total joke
Birds of feather flock together. Its literally his calling to be friends with these people because he IS them.
he’s that one person who befriends dramatic/popular kids at school just to merge themselves into someone else’s drama. he loves to hear about it. he did that when James and Tati had drama and posted Tatis product (i forgot what it was called).
You are who you hang around 🤷🏻♀️
That stuff you said about Shane acting like he's poor is so true! He wears dirty shirts, and jokes about how poor he is/was. I had never seen Shane as a rich person. I think he really thought that through.
Edit: you're incredibly well-spoken, and I subbed
Making millions of dollars off a community is not the same as being a part of that community.
Yeah right lmao when I saw drama channels saying "Shane Dawson is leaving the beauty community", I was like "since when was he even IN the beauty community?!" 😂
Wow, it's so noble of Shane to "leave" the beauty community while still collecting those Conspiracy palette checks and being friends with the most controversial person in the beauty community. We love a martyr. 🙄
And receiving PR that he NEVER used in videos
@@mayra5440 I blame those companies for not seeing what most people did by the end of the series. This was a cash-grab. Shane broke into a lucrative market, got a taste, and got out. Anyone with eyes could see he didn't give a rip about makeup passed what it could do for him.
Armed NotTriggered I know but it bothers me so much that there are thousands of bgs that actually showcase products and they just sent them to a dude that only uses js
@@mayra5440 Yeah. It's a bummer. But I'm sure they were thinking how great the exposure would be if Shane Dawson, new bg extraordinaire, who literally broke the internet with his first palette launch took five seconds to review their new lipstick. I don't blame them for chasing a potentially lucrative advertising gig because everyone would have been paying attention to what Shane was using and it would have made the company buckets of cash, if he gave a crap about makeup. I'm just hoping he donated the stuff he never used or at least gave some to Morgan so it wasn't completely wasted.
A Ravndahl Rant... A Samantha Spiel, if you will....
I would like to also add that 2020 has us seeing so many things we never thought we would, but who could predict Sam would become SO enraged that she uploaded TWO videos in one day?! Who had that for June?
I would like to add that Tina (The Fancy Face), Whitney Hedrick, and Ti (nappy headed jojoba) are some incredible creators that I’ve been following for a while. Also, if you wanna kick it old school and didn’t come here by way of Stephanie Nicole 3 years ago like I did, check her out too.
Kathleen Lights... my all time favorite UA-camr since I started watching beauty videos. She’s so humble & sweet. She’s so genuine & you can tell she’s here simply for the love of makeup.
Sam thank you so much for posting this. I’ve felt the glass ceiling closing over the beauty community for years and it’s not an illusion. Thank you for bringing all this up 🙏
Queen 🙏👑
even chloe is speaking up
Sams words are everything to me, but if Chloe chimes in....Chloe....I mean....no words. Two queens!
“Women who are twice are charismatic” immediately thinks about Kristi
When Shane said "you're top viewed videos are probably 'Makeup fails' and 'Anti Hauls' with vomit emojis" I thought of Kristi's video about 'the truth on Jacyln Hills lipsticks' and yeah it's her most viewed video but she took time away from youtube and then made a follow up video stating that after that video she got a massive spike in subscribers and it scared her and a lot of people came for her over it. And I got DEFENSIVE, because Kristi is a wholesome lady, she made money off that video but the makeup came before the tea and money. sorry for the rant but lumping people like Kristi, JamieGeniveive, Alana and Sam into the same group as all the Drama channels, gives me the shits
raw beauty kristi?
greenpanic6 yup!
Prince Peach so true! I did straight away 😂
Same I was thinking about Kristi the whole time
"He didn't put a peace sign, I did that on his behalf." If I had the resources, I'd pay you to just read the internet to me.
The only issue I have with this video is the incorrect information regarding the Shane x Jeffree series. They were pretty clear from the beginning that the point of the series was to highlight the exact production process--from concept to release--for makeup products, specifically palletes. In the series, they are also extremely transparent with the amount of money that is made in that process, but also shed light on some things behind the scenes that are extremely unfair (such as Too Faced ripping off NickieTutorials, which--if anything--validates your point about a male-dominated industry leaving less for the visible women in the community). While I don't see any of these miscommunications in your video as problematic to your point, I fear many will stop listening at that point and paint the rest of the video as unresearched, etc.
@@therealgaberyan Just commented this somewhere else but, well, no. Shane did two series with Jeffree, and the first one was all about Jeffree and his 'struggles' and him and Shane becoming best friends. The end of that series is when they announced their intention to release a palette and film the process, resulting in the series that was just about the palette months later. That is what she was referring to when she said it was planned from the start but they tried to make it seem like it wasn't.
i LOVE the analogy you made with the transparent sandwich shop guy to the anti haul videos. totally agree and i freaking love them for that reason. you are so introspective and i’m obsesseddd new sub here
The comment about holding the women to higher standard than men was eye opening. Also everything else was superb.
i’ve never clicked so freaking fast. that title? *chefs kiss* the intro? immaculate. the pure attitude and shade in the first 3min? breathtaking.
update: this entire video is nothing but facts, sam did NOT stutter, and the top 1% of the beauty community needs to fucking do better.
shane really gave himself a youtube god complex with all those series he did "saving" problematic youtubers... you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas my dude
I love that saying! Never heard it before but damn, it really holds true for a lot of instances.
Love it
One of the first red flags I saw with Shane (besides the racism?) was that he told Jake that his product placements in his video were too long and manipulated kids into wanting to buy his merch....AND THEN PROCEEDS TO CREATE A SEVEN PART SERIES MANIPULATING PEOPLE INTO BUYING HIS SHIT. The hypocrisy is unreal.
I can only IMAGINE how pissed on some beauty creators are that Shane just shows up to the beauty community, makes a palette with an bad person like Jeffree, makes millions and then says “I won’t be posting about beauty anymore” blah blah blah.
I mean, did anyone really take him seriously as being part of the beauty community tho? He made the channel shane'Glossen' or whatever knowing people were expecting him to make beauty videos on there as if he was actually going to do it then big surprise, he bails. He never took makeup or the beauty community seriously and I don't think he ever intended to keep posting about beauty after he made all his monies. This was just the perfect excuse to get himself out of it without his fans asking why. And yeah, of ALL of the people he chose to highlight in the beauty community it's Jeremiah Starfish? Really? He could have done so much more with a 'docuseries' on beauty by highlighting smaller creators, or talking to the people who view beauty content and why they love it or whatever. He could have brought attention to some really unknown talents here on YT but didn't. Meanwhile you have creators busting their asses who have talent, are nice people like Sam and actually cut their teeth being real makeup artists, then Shane just comes in, picks some colors, names them and calls it quits? So stupid.
“The reason you got so involved with the beauty community in 2019 is because you were profiting off of it.” PEROID
100% 👏👏
he played with makeup a lot before that so....
lynn yeah doing black face...
C pull up
“Women have to work twice as hard to get half as far”
SAY IT AGAIN
Even in “our” industries it’s always men getting celebrated for doing something “different” and ditching gender roles
I don't know what kind of fucked up shit goes on the U.S. but I've always had so many more female bosses than men and they always seem to get away with so much more shit. lol UK though so maybe different
dave Payneflip yes completely different. The US has basically prided itself on being misogynistic, until finally enough women have spoken up about it to get it noticed and therefore something to be done about it. But we haven’t gotten too far yet. The US still needs to go a long way before we can be considered equal. And that’s on the Pay Gap in America. The mistreatment of women in America. And on the misunderstanding of equality in America.
dave Payneflip I’m not sure what experiences you have had but I can certainly say that they are not the norm and uk workplaces are a hotbed of misogyny. The pay gap exists in the UK, senior management roles are still consistently filled by white men and when women are placed in positions of power they are held to a much higher standard. I would reflect on your experiences more.
@@charlottedavis8827 girl I've been working in restaurants here for 18 years now and always had female mangers except 2 men lol. So it's a pretty good chunk of experience. Never is the gender thing brought up as an issue
dave Payneflip funny cause I’m from the UK
Sometimes I just randomly come back to this video. Don’t even know how many times I’ve seen it by now lol
Lol back in 2023
When Shane/Jeffree were 20 they were racists... when James was 20 he was “egotistical”... these 30/40 y.o’s went after a literal 19 year old. These are not the same. The hypocrisy is insane.
Oooh that’s a great point
To be fair, James made racist comments, too. Remember his Ebola tweets? They're all pretty terrible, honestly.
I wish people would stop throwing the word "racist" around so liberally. It only does a disservice to actual racism that goes on in society. Making light hearted dumb/silly videos doesn't make someone a racist. Distasteful humor to some, sure but it wouldn't qualify them as an actual racist. Jeffree on the other hand - may actually be racist.
And no, I'm not a Shane stan.. I just possess a strong dislike for the fact that people flail around this word like it's nothing nowadays.
bass kitten808 they are racist tho. Jeffree has run after black woman in the street saying racial slurs and that’s just the tip of the ice berg, and Shane has done blackface.... like the word “racist” definitely isn’t being just thrown around here.
bass kitten808 See, I wish people would stop dismissing racism that isn’t systemic. Situational racism is still racism. Micro aggressions, still racism. Racist comments, jokes, and caricatures, STILL RACISM. Still worthy of being called out. The term is not being flailed around. Racism is just really really pervasive in our society and it shows up in more ways than one.
What Shane has done IS RACISM. He literally said the n word...
Shane always talking about how “poor” he is is something that annoyed and disgusted me more than I could ever explain lol
I think shane compares himself to jefree and compared to him yes he is poor. Idk if it's on pupose, I know shane is always hard on himself, even if hes not poor
Julie Diana I don't think it has anything to do with Jeffree, because he's made comments like that way before they met. It's just part of his "relatable" sense of humor.
People in my country literally are protesting because they don’t have ANYTHING to eat, it’s really disgusting that Shane goes to the world saying he is poor
brooo. he was really poor when he was a kid. he became rich from youtube. but it probably hasn't sinked in. So he says Im poor he kinda is joking and talking bout his childhood or something like that. Idk i watch his content and i dont really care when he says that. Idk i saw a comment questioning the same thing and one guy responded with something like this.
Renārs He lives in a mansion and buys his friends first class plane tickets, he also has designer clothing (that he doesn't wear in his video because it doesn't fit his image) I'm pretty sure it has sinked in. He's been living with money for a very long time. He STARTED off by making comments like that because he was a poor kid at heart when he started making money... but at this point, it's just part of his sense of humor and his brand.
So glad you brought up the sexism element, even in makeup men still have the power. For instance Jaclyn Hill is no angel and has definitely partook in some shady business practices but that is in no way equal to racism, misogyny, sexual harassment & assault accusations and yet she is ridiculed and in a sense still "cancelled" to this day while J* gets off scott free and still has an innumerably large fan base. One of these things is not like the other, oh right ones a woman.
If she'd done only 1% of what he did, she would have been cancelled immediately and ripped to spreads. Double standards....
That girl Shea did a whole video on this!!! I think it was uploaded yesterday or the day before...
the shady business jaclyn did is definitely worse than racism and misogyny lol
I watched Shae's video and a lot of people commented that Jaclyn's products were bad but at least Jeffrey's products are good products. I don't understand how or why that makes anything okay but therr were quite a few comments like that. The mentality is definitely off on that, in my opinion.
God. Freaking PREACH. I’ve noticed this for awhile but never heard anyone else say it, I’m so glad others are noticing too!
Shane’s makeup applications were as technical as a child’s and he got so much praise come on
Jaclyn Irene he didn’t even know how to swatch...
i’ve never clicked on a video SO FAST.
update: samantha did not stutter.
Same. My fastest click to date, lol. 💄
thanks for liking my comment. remember that black lives matter and we smash the patriarchy at dawn 🧚🏻
SHE DID NOT STUTTER
Olivia Miller our girl was spitting straight facts at the end!!
It was... *chefs kiss 💋* perfection
When Tati first collabed with Jeffree star, I commented on her video that I was so disappointed, that he ruins everyone and would ruin her. She deleted my comment. I unfollowed her and never watched her again and then I saw the James situation blow up. So here we are. JEFFREE STAR WILL RUIN EVERYONE HE COMES INTO CONTACT WITH. Stop supporting him.
Fact !
She collabed with JS because prior to that she felt like an outcast in the beauty community because everyone was thriving in drama. Sadly I think she was aiming to get a little bit of drama to entertain people but I don't think she was expecting that level of backlash or damage.
It's weird how Jeffree enjoys destroy anyone who he comes in contact, wish will happen eventually to Shane as well.
Same! Once she collaborated with JS I was done with her. She's trash. Js is trash and Shane is trash. I'm over it
Jeffree is like a virus
I think anyone choosing to work with him is probably already well on the way to being a disaster on their own.
Should he stop asking rhetorical questions? YES
Did this make me laugh? YES
Do I think he’s full of bullshit? Yes!
Lmaooo
Is it fucking annoying? YES.
Reminded me of the office when Jo Bennett told Dwight
“Stop asking yourself easy questions so you look like a genius”
Shane: "i hate drama and i'm sick of it, that's not me so I'm stepping away"
also shane: "to the beauty gurus who pretend to be above it all, stop it all of you love the drama"
Emma Ariena lol
he sounds like the "I don't need drama in my life" people on any dating site,date them and you find out why they have so much drama ahahaha.
"I hate drama, I'm tired of it and I'm stepping away"
*also Shane, in the same paragraph*
"You all just like messy negative videos, it's ok, I get it, I do too-"
I think all humans love drama in some shape or form, I mean who can honestly say if they saw a fight break out in public you wouldn’t watch?
the “we got a sponsor!” / “WE?!?” part almost made me fall out my chair 😂😂 Samantha has no chill and i love it!
When Shane says “We” I’m pretty sure he’s talking about himself and Andrew! They make videos as a team.
Love Samantha's honesty and sincerity.
Samantha Ravandahl - the hero we need but don't deserve.
100%!!!
Hot damn it’s real!
You put into words what I have been thinking about for years. Historically, women who were into makeup were put into a box labeled materialistic, superficial, ditzy and dumb. The beauty community on youtube was laughed at until it was "validated" by people like Jeffree, James, Manny, etc. and now it has this reputation of being toxic. I've been watching beauty videos on UA-cam since 2007 and toxicity like this didn't exist until very recently. When people realized they could profit off of drama, that became their business model and as a community as a whole, we bought in. We have the power as the viewer to change this.
I’m not even that interested in makeup, (because I can’t do it well lol) but wow I love the way you worded your whole comment because it is sadly very true.
Yes!!! This. 🙌🙌🙌
I agree. I've been into makeup since 2010 and back in the day I'd always get comments on how "you only do it for guys" or "guys like girls with less makeup, you know that right?" or "wow, you spent 45 mins on your makeup? I couldn't imagine wasting my time like that..." but as soon as men entered the stage it was like "what brave, creative, inspiring artist they are, just out there creating thier art!!!". Don't get me wrong, I support equality, I think men have just as much right to being in makeup as women and I love that it's accepted for them to wear makeup now, however this is a two-way street. Don't call women out for wearing makeup and praise the men, cause it annoys me that all tyipically femal dominated things are uncool untill a man/men come along and make it cool.
EXACTLY. that’s why real makeup artists like Pixiwoo are leaving UA-cam slowly. YT is trash now. It’s not what it was when I started watching makeup videos.
Shane is a toxic sociopath who lights the fire, sits back and watches everyone burn then looks around and asks, what happened???
Lmao yes, thats what ive been saying! Then the sh@$torm hits him, hes like"It WaS JuSt A JoKe BrO!"
I know you are angry and hate Shane Dawson but it is not okay to call him a sociopath, that’s trying to diagnose some one with something that isn’t even a real medical term.
If you do that you are no better than Shane Dawson since he did the same thing with jake paul.
Be angry, cancel him, make him feel like shit and ruin his career all you want, you have my support, but calling him a sociopath is inaccurate and an invasion of privacy.
If anyone needs a slice of humble pie, it’s him. The audacity of two grown, 30-something-year-old men to bully a 19-year-old boy to the point of becoming suicidal.
Right???
@@rhodopisdenile8977 Sociopathy is a real mental illness it's not made up trust me I know someone who is diagnosed with it.
As a person who has BPD, GAD and PTSD I completely agree with you with every other word in your comment.
Mental Illness is stigmatized enough (especially BPD, people assume I'm like Onision and Amber Heard when I'm not)
and most people don't know pretty much every mental illness is isn't black and white it's a spectrum, 2 people can have the same illness and act nothing alike.
Idk what caused this rise of keyboard psychologists but I'm blaming Better Health (because I can lol) and they don't know slapping a mental illness on someone because they don't like them makes someone who has that illness ashamed or embarrassed bc they think that if they share their diagnosis their friend will compare them to that person they don't like in their head.
Sorry if I'm rambling and not explaining myself well I'm over tired and can't pass out but I hope you get what I'm trying to say.
The fact that Shane started his message with “welcome to the circus” goes to show how disingenuous it all is. He should have known what he was getting into when he entered the beauty world next to Jeffree’s side... the most toxic of them all.
Hi! Where did he publish that? I can’t find it 🤔
cindy ruiz it was on twitter but he deleted it, I’m sure you can find it somewhere else. Angelika Ole posted a vid and showed the text Sam is reading.
Shane’s excuse would be “I use humor to cope, that’s why I said ‘circus’”
I'm proud of you, I really used to love Shane, but idk he seems to have lost himself I know I don't know him personally, but maybe hellsee this a revaluate himself 💚
cindy ruiz Hi! He tweeted and deleted a huge message (everything Sam read at the beginning of the video was what he wrote). I’m sure you can find screenshots on twitter or any drama channel’s video about it!
No one could’ve said this with more elegance, intelligence & class. Pop off sis🙌🏻
You’re the best!
Look at his wording. “I’m in the hurricane” is like it’s something that happened to him rather he should say “I stepped into the hurricane” because it was his choice. The shades on his palette make it obvious that he knew what he was doing.
Didn't he mention that he was envious/ jealous of people younger than him making more money? I remember it was in the Jefree StarXShane series, I watched a clip of it. Idk maybe I'm imagining things.
@@Moonlight-um5fw
I think he did. Iirc it's when he and Jeffree talked about how much did Shane earn from selling his merch. Also, if Im not wrong it's the part of where shane said why he made joke he's poor. He didn't gain as much as young generation UA-camrs do now 🤔
Shane is manipulative and can't stand criticism. He will get himself in drama while it benefits him, but then he starts taking the heat, suddenly he jumps off and has to make you feel guilty for having called him out. This didn't happen just now, it has been his pattern for years. 6 years ago he was manipulating, being nasty, deflecting criticism and all that when he was filming his film and this was documented on a reality series. Last year when people were calling him off for showing drama in the trailer for views but then not delivering what he promised, he also made a dramatic statement to make people feel guilty for having called him off. Or the way he handled the Franchesca situation 2 years ago and wanted to manipulate her and make her feel bad for having called him out on his racism. This is Shane since ever, a classic manipulator way before he came across the beauty community.
MidoriGa95 Ha! Poor in his $3M home, buying multiple vehicles, publicising holidays on SM. The majority WISH they were that ‘poor’. I reckon he’s never said that to be relatable, but has outright manipulated his naive audience for years. I unfollowed years ago when it became clear he’d gone elitist.
I wanted to comment “we must defend Sam at all costs” but it’s the other way around. She defends us because she knows what it means to be a genuine person. Please never leave Sam, UA-cam needs you
"I can't stand the drama"... he's literally turned drama into his hobby and career?
What he really means is he can’t stand criticism he loves drama when other people are on the chopping block
He profited from drama! The shades on his palette?? All about scandals, drama, tea...
TRUTHS PEOPLE DONT WANNA HEAR: MEN GET WAY MORE RECOGNITION IN BEAUTY INDUSTRY THAN WOMEN
Madeline Nielsen preach sis 🙌🏼
Yes!!! I always thought about this and even other industries that are viewed as "women industries" yet they are still dominated by men... so sad.
Ummm I'm not very educated on the subject but weren't men shunned for doing makeup a while ago?
The funniest thing is that the majority of these popular male "make up artists" don't posses 1/5th of the talent of smaller female MUA's. If a woman did her make up as poorly as Jeffree Star or James Charles she'd be laughed at. But because it's a man doing it: "OH YASSSS WERRK QUEEN"
NoneWhatsoever their makeup is good tho. And they put up good content.
Let’s not forget he’s also unapologetically friends with Trisha.
that was a big part of why I realized that he has just been manipulating his fans all this time. I really thought he was a sweet and misunderstood person but I see now that he has not changed and maybe he never will.
Damn straight he is. Shes a fantastic human being.
Yep. Friends with someone who mocks every vulnerable group out there (and who is actually a real adult). Why? I’m sure for reasons he won’t discuss.
@@baileyerinsmith4680 she has attacked and berated countless minority groups as well as individual people (including her own "friends"). If you still like her despite all that, at least be aware that she is definitely not a good person
Bailey Smith
i hope you’re kidding. she’s awful.
I've lost count of how many times I've watched this video. It's like watching a good roast.