R.I.P 190 BEAST PROBLEMS AGAIN!

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  • Bad times! this bike has really annoyed me now! what should i do? torch it? or try fix it again or do a giveaway?
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  • @unclejohn5012
    @unclejohn5012 3 роки тому +25

    Might help to use the clutch on every gear change. Noticed you sometimes treat it like a semi auto. These engines last as long as you treat them right. Oil changes frequently and clutching properly.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +8

      Nothing do do with clutch ridden for years and never had a problem.
      No-one uses clutch when shifting fast.
      It was a selector pawl retaining washer, been fixed for ages now and still changing gear without clutch .
      Novices use clutch once 3xperiqnced can change gear without clutch its about timing

    • @dickheadcentral6974
      @dickheadcentral6974 3 роки тому

      Nobody uses a clutch shifting upwards.. Sport bikes and dirt bikes

    • @roulettered56
      @roulettered56 3 роки тому +1

      ​@@motomachinezuk8786 Any other probs with the bike or are you enjoying it? Keep the videos coming please.

    • @willstables2061
      @willstables2061 2 роки тому

      You are obviously a novice rider you’d be better off on a 110 or 65 before you hurt yourself

    • @thatsurronhitta
      @thatsurronhitta Рік тому +1

      @@motomachinezuk8786 bro man is yappin sayin no clutch lmao bro if its manual u use clutch or u wreck it as u have done

  • @flowdriftstyle9306
    @flowdriftstyle9306 3 роки тому

    Hi my one does that exact same clanking sound at 2:32 what’s that doing to the bike and is it a problem would help a lot for a reply but I did just wash it over and it’s started doing it 🙁

  • @jameskellet7412
    @jameskellet7412 4 роки тому +2

    Hi I have just repaired my 190 with jumping gear box I spoke to you about it could not get replacement small selector arm so went back to wpb.after a lot of crap that sent me a washer that fit over original gearing which holds in arm ??? Only been out up and down garden in it but seem to be a lot better than it was ??? Time will tell cheers james.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      I remember yes ive actually just got that part to try, just hope I've not damaged the shaft. Got that washer thing online. So you are confident with it ? Worked well ?

    • @jameskellet7412
      @jameskellet7412 4 роки тому

      MOTO MACHINEZ UK not really fell out with wpb as it must be ongoing problem 😡to put a extra part on brand new engine think am black listed now a let you guys now how it holds up ? Cheers

    • @rossframe6763
      @rossframe6763 4 роки тому

      My 190 was doing the same thing. WPB supplied the washer to go over the shift star. Problem solved so far. My other problem is the bike keeps snapping starter chains for no reason. You said the bike felt like it was holding back have you checked the tappet settings. Inlet 0.1 outlet 0.15.

  • @ark6959
    @ark6959 4 роки тому +6

    Nothing worse than when your machines not working, eh? Drives me crazy as well. Good luck with it mate

  • @TEKKYTWO
    @TEKKYTWO 4 роки тому +10

    My brother and I gave this bike many chances but in the end it just failed us. Very upsetting to think this was our first pit bike, feels very unsafe; can't pop wheelies as it falls out of gear almost every time, locks up and turns off at any time (unpredictable) in 1st 2nd or 3rd gear which has made me almost fall off my bike. I can't recommend this bike to anyone, very disappointing and to think we spend £2.2k for both of them. Should have bought a second hand Japanese dirt bike instead.

    • @ryancrf250guy8
      @ryancrf250guy8 4 роки тому +1

      i took your advise and got my self a crf250x mate

    • @TEKKYTWO
      @TEKKYTWO 4 роки тому

      @@ryancrf250guy8 you did the right thing trust me I wish I did the same!

    • @ryancrf250guy8
      @ryancrf250guy8 4 роки тому

      @@TEKKYTWO id sell them and put some money towords another bike tbh mate

    • @TEKKYTWO
      @TEKKYTWO 4 роки тому

      @@ryancrf250guy8 that's the plan hopefully. I was thinking of doing an engine swap but its not worth it. Rather just get rid of them.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      Its been a massive let down, should have left it with 4 gears then no problems.

  • @agentredbone1667
    @agentredbone1667 4 роки тому +1

    Did you change the oil after it was shipped? The oil that comes with it is shipping oil. You have to change it immediately upon delivery

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Of course, chip fat oil was dropped first job. I do hear alot of people use that oil but its only good for preventing rust inside engine and they brim them so everything is covered in transit. 2nd vid on this bike was prepping for first start.

  • @kmoore2904
    @kmoore2904 3 роки тому

    what happened on mine the gear selector went it's quite common on wpb

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Was a common fault on these but they apparently have sorted it now.
      Since I've put a retaining washer on selector it's been fine, simple fix really

  • @christopherprice55
    @christopherprice55 2 роки тому

    Looking at getting the wpb 190 beast 2022 do you know if the problems have been ironed out guys ??

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  2 роки тому +1

      I hear they have but I'm not certain. It's an easy fix so I hope they have

    • @christopherprice55
      @christopherprice55 2 роки тому

      Do u know much about the kurtz range of pit bike seen them about thanks ??

  • @calvinbell8468
    @calvinbell8468 2 роки тому

    Will the thump star 190 have same problems

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  2 роки тому

      Well the new models have had the problem sorted apparently. Easy fix so they should correct it.

  • @Chicken_nuggets101
    @Chicken_nuggets101 5 місяців тому

    Hi bro just asking are stomp z3 140s fast and reliable ?

  • @jordansands2094
    @jordansands2094 3 роки тому

    Hello mate would you know if the 2021 model has been updated with all these problems?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Evening mate, apparently they have but don't hold me to that, they say they have.

    • @jordansands2094
      @jordansands2094 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 okay fella I have ordered the 2021 model I will keep you up to date with the mechanical side of it

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +1

      @@jordansands2094 hopefully bo reason why not sorted mine is and it's not expensive for them. Appreciate then feedback if they have as asked this alot and I'm curious about it
      Thanks

    • @jordansands2094
      @jordansands2094 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 hello mate got the bike and set it up yesterday, haven't started it yet need to get engine oil today, just a quick question on the key ignition you can turn it to two different points? Whats the reason for that?

    • @harrythompson396
      @harrythompson396 3 роки тому

      @@jordansands2094 hi pal, do you no if the 190 has been updated or is it still making these problems?

  • @megaog4999
    @megaog4999 4 роки тому +5

    Had a similar problem with a zs 160, turned out to be eletrical! Literally just a wire hanging out of the cdi box and it ran great when I stuck it back in

    • @enriquecharles6826
      @enriquecharles6826 3 роки тому

      You probably dont care at all but does anyone know of a way to get back into an Instagram account??
      I somehow forgot the login password. I love any assistance you can give me.

    • @brysendash8748
      @brysendash8748 3 роки тому

      @Enrique Charles instablaster =)

    • @enriquecharles6826
      @enriquecharles6826 3 роки тому

      @Brysen Dash I really appreciate your reply. I found the site through google and im trying it out atm.
      Seems to take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.

    • @enriquecharles6826
      @enriquecharles6826 3 роки тому

      @Brysen Dash it worked and I finally got access to my account again. Im so happy!
      Thank you so much, you saved my account !

    • @brysendash8748
      @brysendash8748 3 роки тому

      @Enrique Charles you are welcome :)

  • @motovlogs7393
    @motovlogs7393 4 роки тому +8

    Good bike but shame that one is a dud stick with the demon x that's a proper bike man

    • @markskvr9279
      @markskvr9279 3 роки тому

      Just got a demon x xlr2 125 👌🏻 needs to strip it as 2nd gear is gone🤣 just the usual hahaha

  • @andymunro592
    @andymunro592 4 роки тому

    Am giving them it back and see if get coin back as av only dun 4 hrs and the starter moter chain snapt ma gears are worn out and there a bad ratell fom it and keeps cuting out not good when only 4 hr ride on. Am going back to ma rmz 450

  • @Mikuni_Michalk
    @Mikuni_Michalk 4 роки тому +1

    I had this problem by myself, argued a little with the Company and got an New engine and Now everything works very fine

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      I'm not great at complaining but I want to as wasted money. Going to try and fix again so I let them off silly me. Thats a good result for you glad its OK now 👌

  • @r.i.parthurmorgan5168
    @r.i.parthurmorgan5168 4 роки тому

    i have a ssr125 and when i take off the chain locks up do you think it needs to be tightened

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Not sure what you mean. Sounds like chain though might need some maintenance if it comes off.

  • @timmysv1k94
    @timmysv1k94 6 місяців тому

    What oil are you using? It should be non synthetic oil. If you’re using full synthetic oil that might be the problem

  • @christiantayleure7001
    @christiantayleure7001 3 роки тому

    Can you just fit any old crf110 fairings onto these

  • @jamestaylor1347
    @jamestaylor1347 4 роки тому +4

    These bikes are not designed for flat out riding for long periods, especially when the fuel is off ,there for short burst and gear changes.

  • @loganmulreany1449
    @loganmulreany1449 3 роки тому +1

    Would you recommend a stomp z3 160

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +2

      Stomp z3 is a solid, tried and tested bike, definitely a decent bike

  • @antonyhaines7534
    @antonyhaines7534 Рік тому

    Y you not using your clutch

  • @liamwhyte8100
    @liamwhyte8100 4 роки тому +3

    Love the channel learnt a lot and thank you so much you have just saved me £1200+ I was going to order one of these 4th of October thank you thank you thank you

    • @rosco4659
      @rosco4659 4 роки тому +1

      I've been toying with the idea too, not now. No way.

    • @masonmarsh9436
      @masonmarsh9436 4 роки тому +1

      Same

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +4

      Bit embarrassing admitting this is a hound I bought, but I'm glad I potentially stopped others from same situation. At my expense lol

    • @liamwhyte8100
      @liamwhyte8100 4 роки тому +1

      @@motomachinezuk8786 no potentially about you have 100% helped a lot of people save time money and stress you should do a videos on what bikes you would buy and love you know you're stuff I am a daily watcher.. i just need to pick what I want to get ebike or pitbike love both out of pitbike you have owned witch one would get.

    • @liamwhyte8100
      @liamwhyte8100 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 do a raffle for the 190 like £1 A ticket about do up to 900 tickets you make some money back and someone gets a chance fix it end of day 190 not bad they just messed up with gearbox put it in without testing right

  • @The-Mattman
    @The-Mattman 4 роки тому

    Have you checked the gear lever is clearing the gearbox case when you click it up

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Yes I had that problem first, not much room for it is there. I even checked it was not loose. I'm just hearing the same story from most owners, shame

  • @damacmachine4u991
    @damacmachine4u991 4 роки тому

    I put a 212cc same variation 190. I took all the precautions lube starter chain and the shift star washer mod. Drove a half mile blew my head light out and taillight out. The gears ⚙ don't feel right im praying its a break in issue... not sure its getting cold here.... i have 2 young boys id drive them around with the 125. They are sad i cant bring them out on the Icebear champion 212. I dont feel comfortable riding the thing myself

  • @fajovandenpangaard7530
    @fajovandenpangaard7530 4 роки тому +1

    BUILD EM CUSTOM MATE!
    Just finished my own build a year ago 160cc with all the trick parts.
    Hydraulic clutch and with
    LM EXHAUST and TM 30mm flatslide carb. Change the oil every week ( i ride 5 times in a week ) its still goinn strong.
    Make em or break em i find.....

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      I'm brain storming as I want something different, good ideas. I'm thinking engine then turn into a 3 wheeler or make a side car lol could be fun and different.
      Very satisfying building own bike I bet 👌

    • @fajovandenpangaard7530
      @fajovandenpangaard7530 4 роки тому

      Yeahhh cool lookin forward for that content🤘🏻😜

  • @3dwezzy740
    @3dwezzy740 3 роки тому

    is the daytona better?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Yes way better engine and twice the price

    • @ridderz1834
      @ridderz1834 3 роки тому

      Yes the daytona 190 is a 4 valve where the copy zs 190 is only a 2 valve

  • @trentjackson4816
    @trentjackson4816 3 роки тому +3

    I am impressed when you consider that a Yamaha or Honda equivalent would cost up to 20 x more. I ♡ your bike. Some people in the world would be over the moon to own the bike. These Chinese bikes fitted with lights, horn and all necessary running gear for onroad use are ideal for many of these poor countries. I ♡ the Chinese.

    • @StrongFarms
      @StrongFarms 3 роки тому

      20X??? I bought a 2014 crf 150 RBE back in 2014 for 4200 USD delivered. It is a bigger frame, and higher HP engine.

    • @trentjackson4816
      @trentjackson4816 3 роки тому

      I am NOT literally speaking, and most likely talking in Australian currency buddy. USD buys very little AUD.

    • @StrongFarms
      @StrongFarms 3 роки тому

      @@trentjackson4816 about a 35% difference in currency, but unless hondas are rare there, the conversion rate would be the same. Our cost to get a pit bike 190 would be simalar to your cost to acquire there. Unless the supply chain is screwed up

    • @StrongFarms
      @StrongFarms 3 роки тому

      Similar in price adjusted for each of our cost difference I mean. So a pit bike at 1000 usd would be 1350 in aus, and a Honda at 4000 usd would be 5400

  • @subhanmanzar7681
    @subhanmanzar7681 Рік тому +1

    Interested to buy one of these you reckon after 2 years they will have sorted these issues? Love the content keep up the great work 👍🏽

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  Рік тому +1

      Well some have been OK but I still hear of problem. Easy fix.
      Cheers mate

  • @RCTurbo79
    @RCTurbo79 4 роки тому +3

    That's a shame mate,i cant comment on the 190,but i love my 160...ive had to customise it as you know,they are not that good out of the box,but its flying now atm with the bigger 28mm carb. 👍

    • @fajovandenpangaard7530
      @fajovandenpangaard7530 4 роки тому +2

      Got mine fitted with the 30mm flatslide. And if you tune it just right its got it flyinn

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      Thats what I mean wpb is fine for foundations just most other bits need replacing to firm them up. Bash guard was 3mm thinner than my demon x for example

    • @RCTurbo79
      @RCTurbo79 4 роки тому +1

      @@motomachinezuk8786 Yeah ive went thru 2 bash gaurds already lol

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      @@RCTurbo79 lol exactly they are flimsy i have admittedly broke the front off on demon x but it won't bend like my 190 .

    • @blazeetv674
      @blazeetv674 Рік тому

      I’ve just baught 160cc version and it’s bogging a lot and second gear can be a hassle , any tips on what need replacing in this bike , I’m thinking knew carb and gearbox

  • @BBRidersCZ
    @BBRidersCZ 4 роки тому +1

    I had same issue with transmission on my brand new PBS 190 after only 18 hours of riding. The problem is in the shifter star that is made out of wax and not correctly engaging the gears. Mine was only skipping second gear sometimes, but before I realized Im not shifting incorrectly and its in fact problem in the transmission, so much damage was done that whole gearbox had to be replaced. Not covered by warranty...so if you are thinking of this engine, think twice...

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      That gutting mate luckily I've managed to sort mine before I damaged gearbox but not good selling engines like this from factory. Hopefully fix will hold up with retaining washer on

  • @PaulMillward-v9l
    @PaulMillward-v9l 7 місяців тому

    I’ve got one of these and had it a while with no problems 😮

  • @addi1999
    @addi1999 4 роки тому

    Where about is that field? And is it safe to ride there?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      Its safe for me to ride yeh I got permission its near Cheltenham

  • @valvespercylinder2910
    @valvespercylinder2910 3 роки тому

    Gearbox problems sounds like my Welsh 125 is flawless maybe it’s just the 190 is it 4 or 5 speed

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +1

      Yes it's only on this 5 speed box that there was a problem. I sorted mine now and working fine for 15hrs. Apparently they fixed problem now from factory on newer models.

    • @valvespercylinder2910
      @valvespercylinder2910 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 oh that’s good, do you know the actual fault that lead to the problem you had??

  • @ContentForFriends
    @ContentForFriends 4 роки тому

    Are the stomp better the this ones? Or what is a decent dirt bike you recommend?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      Stomp is better yes. Dirt bike or pit bike lots out there, depends on budget etc..

  • @masonmarsh9436
    @masonmarsh9436 4 роки тому

    I was thinking about getting this bike but i dont know about it now i had problems with my 170 aswell but only to my thoaught i was looking at the thumpster dirty s could you give me some knolege about these type of bikes

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      I'm hearing good reviews very similar to demon x. I want to try 1 and good price at moment as newish back on the scene, bet price goes up for x mas.

  • @lewisclarke9239
    @lewisclarke9239 4 роки тому

    Is it the same as the 140 race ?

  • @jessejames3254
    @jessejames3254 3 роки тому

    How about the wpb 160

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      All the 160s/155 are tried and tested, good engine if looked after. M2r is another option

  • @paullawrence5117
    @paullawrence5117 4 роки тому

    How much would you let it go for im in Oxfordshire

  • @zIJordxn
    @zIJordxn 4 роки тому

    Wanting to buy one of these pit bikes, anyone know if there still having the same problem in 2021?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Apparently not and very soon the thumpstar 190 will be available and looks quite good. Same bike different clothing

  • @alexhouston3912
    @alexhouston3912 4 роки тому

    Am getting one of these in a few months. It could possibly be a broken gear tooth or theres a broken shim in the gears

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Had this problem twice and sorted it, 3rdtime is ajoke really withing 12 hours

  • @TopGgarage47
    @TopGgarage47 2 роки тому

    Does engines no good allot of problems I do fix a lot of them

  • @chrisstephens6194
    @chrisstephens6194 4 роки тому +1

    Is this related just to the 190? I was thinking about buying my son the 125 four speed...

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      Just on this 190 as got a 5 speed gearbox. Other engines are fine

    • @potatopg3d371
      @potatopg3d371 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 are engines with 1N234 instead of N1234 also a problem or is it just that this particular engine has 5 gears

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      @@potatopg3d371 1n2345. Problem has been with the 5 speed gearbox only mate

    • @potatopg3d371
      @potatopg3d371 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 ok thx

    • @potatopg3d371
      @potatopg3d371 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 i have been looking at a pitbike with a yx engine that has 1N234 gearbox and i heard gearboxes with 1 down rest up drums had problems but nah

  • @taylorrovere5275
    @taylorrovere5275 3 роки тому

    I had the same problems it's the selector Pawl speak to ooracing they will help you out. It's a really easy fix.
    Mine lasted about 5 minute before it was jumping out of 2nd and 3rd.

  • @The-Mattman
    @The-Mattman 4 роки тому

    Out on mine today,seems like its started mis-firing near high end,

  • @martinhinojosa8677
    @martinhinojosa8677 3 роки тому

    my zs190 was a beast
    and im gonna buy one for my pit bike soon

  • @davntelisha19
    @davntelisha19 4 роки тому

    How much does a 190cc motor cost where you live

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      I think just less than £600 on its own. I paid £999.99 for whole bike

  • @debzi6
    @debzi6 4 роки тому

    Im after a wpb 125cc. Would you recommend a different brand or do you know if wpb 125's are ok?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      The 125 engines are fine mate its this newish 190 that had problems. Solid engine the 125

  • @deanlara1302
    @deanlara1302 4 роки тому

    I’ve got the same bike got it in February rode it 2 times and was jumping gears called them up and got it booked to get fixed had to have all new gears as it was wrecked took 5 months to get the bike back haven’t been out on it since wish I never got the bike

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Not good is it I wished they would refund me but or something but kinda useless now for me. Wasted my money also I think. Just need to open it up and have a look before I complain more

    • @deanlara1302
      @deanlara1302 4 роки тому

      When I sent the bike back to be repaired I asked several times and all they kept doing was making excuses about how good the bike is and that I’ll be happy with it when I get back I’ve since been out and got another bike as I don’t even want to ride the 190

  • @SteevAtomic
    @SteevAtomic 3 роки тому

    strip it and see whether is a bent selector fork or maybe needs shimmed

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      I've fitted a retaining washer on the frog I thinks it's called now and seems fixed

  • @fluffymat1
    @fluffymat1 4 роки тому

    Hi mate is there a pit bike that you would recommend

    • @boris2trappy693
      @boris2trappy693 4 роки тому +1

      Go to one of his more recent vids mate

    • @boris2trappy693
      @boris2trappy693 4 роки тому +1

      And u could also have a look on pitbikedirect

  • @E11evens
    @E11evens 3 роки тому

    Just though we'd ask, did you run the bike it as it's new? Plus you're changing gear without the chutch so that could be part of the problemo. Chinese bikes parts are mostly made from nickel, so you have to nurse them compared to a quality bike

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +2

      Yes it was run in like normal but these new 5speed gearboxes had teething problems, I was 1 of first to get 1 so all the problems. Is,sorted now I used a retaining washer I got a vid of fix on channel if interested. 2nd attempt worked so far. I believe these gears might prefer a clutch but on all my others I've never had an issue, I agree not same quality but if done right and at right times it's ok. I feed it into gear.

    • @E11evens
      @E11evens 3 роки тому

      Ah that's great that you have fixed it and is on vid. My mates have them, I went for the klx110 in the end 🤣 Keep it up dude

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      @@E11evens klx 110 quality little bikes I've got an L model and perfect in right environment plus good for wheelie practice. Cheers

    • @blazeetv674
      @blazeetv674 Рік тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 alright Moto yeah I’m interested how to get this issue fixed

  • @Zokica18
    @Zokica18 9 місяців тому

    there just a peace missing in the gairbox, I had the same bike and had the same problem and I went back to the shop and they fixed it for me for free.

    • @razzledazzle8948
      @razzledazzle8948 8 місяців тому

      @Zokica18 can you give more details on the fix please

    • @Zokica18
      @Zokica18 8 місяців тому

      @@razzledazzle8948 i wish i could but i gave it to a mechanic and he fixed it for me. The shop sent the piece directly to the mechanic so idk what it is or how it works

  • @MTarek0012
    @MTarek0012 Рік тому

    The ZS engines are decent engines. I have the ZS160 and a problem I had with it is a snapped off 1st gear tooth. Happened once I replaced it and it happened again not even 2 months after the rebuild. I decided to just fish the metal tooth out the engine and just leave as is and use that first gear less. Still love the 160 no matter what problems it brings

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  Рік тому

      Yes it's been fine since a retaining washer added onto gear selector arm. They sorted this problem now from factory.
      160 is a decent little engine 👌

    • @Bellyboii88
      @Bellyboii88 Рік тому

      ​@motomachinezuk8786 would you recommend them now they have sorted it from factory

  • @snoweymatthew
    @snoweymatthew 4 роки тому

    Try putting a washer over the shift star should fix the problem its cos the wheel is sliding off the star

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      That's what I've got to fit it next hopefully will work. Why does it come off the star?

    • @snoweymatthew
      @snoweymatthew 4 роки тому

      Its just cos of the free play in the bolt lets it moves in or of the star sorry for the late reply didn't see your reply look forward to the vid on the 190cc 😊

  • @ramiretz
    @ramiretz 4 роки тому

    add a big washer on top of the shiftstar so it cant jump out of gears anymore.... the older ones had itm the new ones not.... if not you will destroy the gearbox soon, every time it jumps out of gear it grinds the dogs of the gears a little bit.....

  • @RanchDelivery
    @RanchDelivery 4 роки тому

    Maybe your star gear is dulled out or your shifter spring is shot or the gearbox could be assebled wrong/missing a washer somewhere just speculation tho

    • @RanchDelivery
      @RanchDelivery 4 роки тому

      Lol i didnt see the next video suggestion sorry

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      No worries its been work and research on this thing and touch wood it seems fixed but I just want a few more hours before I say sorted if you get what I'm saying. Nightmare it was for a new hardly used bike

  • @monkeyjunky9918
    @monkeyjunky9918 3 роки тому

    Mate did you buy that from wpb

  • @craiglemare5705
    @craiglemare5705 3 роки тому

    Sounds like bad clutch or clutch cable or ur rushing the gear change

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +1

      Selector pawl needed a retaining washer. Fixed now and been good for 12hours

  • @matijajezersek1975
    @matijajezersek1975 4 роки тому

    Wpb 190 good bike?

  • @Lew699
    @Lew699 4 роки тому

    Do u think i should still buy one of these?

    • @gill4ko123
      @gill4ko123 4 роки тому

      Nope i have 2020 model and its the same shit

    • @Lew699
      @Lew699 4 роки тому

      Gill4KO FN do u think the 140 would be better then or would it do the same

  • @skylerhealyvlogs9642
    @skylerhealyvlogs9642 4 роки тому +6

    I would gladly take the bike off your hands. 🤣🤣 Like no joke I'm 100% serious.

  • @tobyjarmey1394
    @tobyjarmey1394 2 роки тому

    Water in the carb probably or wet air filter

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  2 роки тому

      Gear star jumping its a common fault that can easily be fixed now

  • @danc5234
    @danc5234 3 роки тому +11

    One thing I noticed while watching your video is that you ain't using the clutch to change gear but changing it using the revs on the bike. No wander its playing up with you.. it's like changing gears in a car and not using the clutch it ain't going to last long

    • @kytospillett8753
      @kytospillett8753 Рік тому

      If the trans is not built well on a motorcycle it will act up like the one in the video. Because a motorcycle uses a sequential gearbox it's harmless to float gears. I do it all the time on my kawi and I put over 12k miles on it. What normally happens is the bushings and shift fork will deform if they use cheap materials.

    • @afox4502
      @afox4502 11 місяців тому

      No cluch won't do fuck all

    • @samanthacain9627
      @samanthacain9627 8 місяців тому

      ​@kytospillett8753 it's a constant mesh gearbox. If you don't use the clutch, you risk destroying the gear dogs and selector forks. Jumping out of gear is a sign the gear dogs are rounded or the selector forks aren't fully shifting the gears in.

  • @mrpantur7280
    @mrpantur7280 4 роки тому +3

    Theres a fix for these now. Search up the gearbox issuie and you can buy a plate that stops the shifter from slipping.

    • @blazeetv674
      @blazeetv674 Рік тому +1

      Really that sound like what I might need for my 160 version bro could you help me out with a link would be more than appreciated

    • @mrpantur7280
      @mrpantur7280 Рік тому

      @@blazeetv674 it was for a 190cc and i cant find it anymore. there's some info on forums but that's it. best to look on UA-cam and forums for a fix. type 160cc pit bike when you search and not the name of the bike. about 95% pit bikes have and share the same parts.

  • @mileshempstead
    @mileshempstead 4 роки тому +1

    Great video dude hope the problem gets resolved soon! Best of luck I had a pit bike demon XLR 170 and I never had a problem with it hope your doing well mate.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      Cheers bud yeh bloody bike is problems compared to demon x 170 detroit thats for sure. Hope you are keeping well too mate

    • @mileshempstead
      @mileshempstead 4 роки тому

      MOTO MACHINEZ UK yeah I’m doing good thank you I currently have a lousy cold at the minute but apart that all good. Yeah it’s a shame but hopefully it’ll be fixed and ready to hit the back fields again the beast’

  • @philiphiggins4822
    @philiphiggins4822 4 роки тому

    I think its to do with the selector fork inside. Ooracing done a video about abt a mod for it

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      Yes mate this happened some time back now ive managed to resolve it with a retaining washer and so far so good also got a part from ooracing they are pretty good help to be honest

    • @ItsRizzyyy69
      @ItsRizzyyy69 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 now you know what it is and have resolved it would you still not recommend ?

  • @failsoftheweek-d5i
    @failsoftheweek-d5i 4 місяці тому

    You got a flat spot in first gear the bike needs a gearbox rebuild 👍

  • @OhDxh
    @OhDxh 4 роки тому

    What do you use for recording voice and video?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      My helmet set up is gopro hero 7 with external mic into helmet . Some was filmed on phone s10

    • @OhDxh
      @OhDxh 4 роки тому

      MOTO MACHINEZ UK the voice quailty sounds good , can’t hear any wind at all really quite surprised

  • @nicholasmillican9639
    @nicholasmillican9639 3 роки тому +2

    I have just bought one yesterday and when I start it up it seems to be overheating instantly. Also, do you know where the choke is on this bike

    • @JAL707
      @JAL707 3 роки тому

      It’s overheating bc it’s not moving probably is it? U need to be riding it and the air cools it down

  • @dathanos3595
    @dathanos3595 11 місяців тому

    Well your videos have totally buggered me up now lad cos I'd pretty much decided on buying 1 of these for my boys 1st bike (12 + 15 year olds) but i just dunno what to do now. I know 2 other lads that have this bike and never seem to have had Any problems with them so i dunno what the hell to do now. The engine in the 2024 model seems to have Very good reviews tho. Help !?!?

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  11 місяців тому

      This was first generation of the 190 beast and it had this teething problem. I believe they sorted this issue soon after . If not its easy to fix. Just a retaining washer needed on the gear frog. Good bike for the money since I fixed. Its got over 60hrs on now with no other issues. Hope this helps

  • @callumbarter5244
    @callumbarter5244 4 місяці тому

    Whats a joke is they ask top dollar for their bikes, that only increases every year, yet every year like you said they get more and more minimalist, its a joke man! They used to be competetivly priced, decent bits of kit! They really are going down hill, i still hear people complaing, ive heard the daytona 190s are 1000x better though...? Thinking of building my own instead of buying a bike for over a grand that is just going to do this!

  • @cradletothegrave
    @cradletothegrave 3 роки тому

    These bikes need better parts I have just brought a Detroit 170 and stripping of all cheap parts and putting nice bits on like carburettor all levers bars chain clutch
    It's the only way you will get along with these Chinese pitbikes

  • @philipbottrill8450
    @philipbottrill8450 3 роки тому

    Not surprised its jumping gears, never change gears without the clutch my bro

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Never use clutch to change gear on any bike. Never had a problem.

  • @FullTimeDosser
    @FullTimeDosser 4 роки тому

    Im looking at getting a pitbike soon is there any in particular that you would recommend Great Content Btw

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      Stomp is a good choice and always available. Cw are a good brand when they have stock. Thank you glad you enjoy the content

    • @FullTimeDosser
      @FullTimeDosser 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 The WPB Detroit 170 Twin Exhaust that u sometimes have on seems alright

    • @adamrabideau2983
      @adamrabideau2983 3 роки тому

      I have a 2020 piranha p190 and it's wicked. Only issue I had so far was I popped the tube for the rear tire but I was riding hard in a gravel pit.

  • @The-Mattman
    @The-Mattman 4 роки тому +3

    I bought a brand new one last christmas,seems ok so far,probably done about 30hrs

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Thats good hearing a positive story about 1, most ive heard is problems but I like to think some must be OK

  • @SamsungTab-el3bg
    @SamsungTab-el3bg Рік тому

    This bike is good but the gearing is bad i suggest you buying new gearation and installing it then it should go good

  • @logansportpilotrp8174
    @logansportpilotrp8174 3 роки тому

    Man i would check cdi box,then check to see if your kill switch is shorting out,im curious to know whats causing this...i feel for u mate.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому +1

      Hello mate I think I've got to the problem and so far done 3 plus hours and feels solid. I have a vid on channel of the fix with a retaining washer, was jumping gears. Selctor jumping of that star thing
      That was 2nd attempt but I'm confident it's sorted

    • @logansportpilotrp8174
      @logansportpilotrp8174 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 Glad to hear...that is a pretty sweet bike....liked those crazy jumps over those 3 barrels...

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Those barrels were a personal best, maybe this year I shall try 4. Depends lol.
      The bike is good for the price yes. Just needs a few touches to make it ride better. Shame I had a problem with mine and they hardly wanted to help

    • @logansportpilotrp8174
      @logansportpilotrp8174 3 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 Salutations from Ford City PA, U S A,yeah the bike is really nice, it's a shame the company didn't want to resolve the problem for you...anyways love your videos,my apollo rfz x-15 is a sweet bike as well , really love mine,adding a oil cooler to mine this week.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      @@logansportpilotrp8174 yes is a shame they did little to help when problem persisted and they recommended wrong fix so I don't think they knew what was happening. Thank you glad you enjoy the content from over the pond.
      Oil cooler should add a few hp

  • @zanzoki7145
    @zanzoki7145 3 роки тому

    The bike is good but there is a piece inssing in the gearbox... You can get the piece for like 15€

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Correct I've now fitted a retaining washer and all been good since, 👍

  • @pat.125enduro4
    @pat.125enduro4 4 роки тому

    It will be nice of you to check inside engine, to see if there any worn out gearing or checking the condition of your star mod, please. For the sake of knowing more about it.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      I'm going to as something could be loose but I'm not hopeful. I also have a possible solution but not hopeful lol. Will all be document to help others and for learning. Just waiting for some rainy days so I can take my time checking it and warn part again. Bloody job

    • @pat.125enduro4
      @pat.125enduro4 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 great! Bloody job indeed, hope to see your video!

  • @stevemubarak1426
    @stevemubarak1426 3 роки тому

    if it is brand new and you ride like that and you have not broken in the engine there is your problem or u not using your cluch

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      Wasn't brand new had to split engine for a 3rd time to fit a retaining washer that was missing from the frog selector. Factory fault

  • @drift3rZUK
    @drift3rZUK 4 роки тому +4

    It probably jumps gears because you don't use clutch on the upshifts mate. My friend is on the second 190 Beast with no problems at all👌, while other people that upshift with no clutch got issues like yours.

    • @MotorSportWallOfShame
      @MotorSportWallOfShame 3 роки тому

      I've never used a clutch up shifting on these bikes nor superbikes and been only on track flat out 24/7 never had this issue

    • @drift3rZUK
      @drift3rZUK 3 роки тому

      @@MotorSportWallOfShame I have now a 2016 KTM 125 SX - RR (factory race ready) and even in it's manual states clearly that clutch has to be used when changing the gear up or down, and we're talking about an SX Race Ready bike. A low cost chinese pit bike won't last long shifting without a clutch. I know some people having this issue because they treat the manual gearbox like a semi-auto. If you've got a 110 pit bike, that won't have enough power to mess the gearbox up and there are a few semi-auto which is not the case with 190 beast or other MX bike. Something with a bit of power will eat through the gearbox if you keep doing that.

    • @MotorSportWallOfShame
      @MotorSportWallOfShame 3 роки тому

      @@drift3rZUK of course its going to state it in the manual to cover all areas, I'm not saying what I'm doing is the correct thing to do but I use mine on tarmac and it's constantly up and down gears and I only use clutch to downshift, they have weak gearboxes from the start it's no secret, sometimes it's just bad luck, think I got a video of me riding mine on a go kart track on my page have a look 👍🏽

  • @ryansherlock6949
    @ryansherlock6949 4 роки тому

    How much you want for it?

  • @davntelisha19
    @davntelisha19 4 роки тому

    How fast that bike goes

  • @williamwatkins4396
    @williamwatkins4396 4 роки тому +1

    Stick the smaller older gear box on it !! Probably to much torque for the box

  • @SimonCat-ss7dn
    @SimonCat-ss7dn 11 місяців тому

    Your not using the clutch

  • @TommyElmz
    @TommyElmz 4 роки тому

    I’ll come and pick it up and drop you some cash! If you want I have a van!

  • @benhadley1610
    @benhadley1610 3 роки тому

    Your lucky mine don’t even fire up and it’s brand new out of the box

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  3 роки тому

      That's terrible, someone from wpb commented, kinda having a go I could tell about me dissing them. I hear so many problems from new owners. What's wrong with it then any ideas ?

  • @damongower1413
    @damongower1413 4 роки тому

    That's why when it comes to 190s u want a ycf sp3 a thumpstar tsx/tsr I think it is and the pitster pro

  • @thatsurronhitta
    @thatsurronhitta Рік тому

    if u keep the fuel line on while riding this will happen with these chinese bikes so you need to turn it to off after u begin riding so it doesnt bog out

  • @bica5584
    @bica5584 4 роки тому

    Isn't your clutch slippering?

  • @jethrowittam449
    @jethrowittam449 4 роки тому +1

    I would love this bike! They're awesome, shame tho!
    I would fix it up and sick supermoto tires on it to race at a local mini track!!!

  • @amandarutherford7345
    @amandarutherford7345 Рік тому

    Your breather pipe on fuel tank cap has a stupid black cap on pipe ! Your fuel is trickling into engine just have a open pipe on see what happens then good luck

  • @yeansyaahirinyean4923
    @yeansyaahirinyean4923 4 роки тому

    Hello sir ...this is 2 valve our 4 valve

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Hello mate it is just a 2 valve. All the bike cost less than the 190 daytona 4 valve engine alone.

  • @harrysloman3323
    @harrysloman3323 4 роки тому +2

    I'd have it I've been saving for a bike for ages and I'm struggling atm giving my family money with covid problems and Im in the army so I work away from home and need something to do on weekends I'd buy it of you

  • @audis4ni99a
    @audis4ni99a 4 роки тому +1

    found the problem, it needs a Daytona 190 swap or the 208cc kit

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Those engines cost more than this whole bike, would be good but if I have that kinda money for it I would go electric and that would be faster and something different. I'm going to try fix with a retaining washer ASAP just left it alone for a few weeks, annoyed me it has

  • @karol6418
    @karol6418 4 роки тому +1

    I'd love to try fix the bike up !

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +2

      I am going to try a solution just this vid got me right at wrong time I kinda was pissed, calmed down now and thinking more rashinaly, still might do a giveaway lol

  • @iswhatitis3644
    @iswhatitis3644 4 роки тому

    You probably messed up the gear box not pulling the cluch in when changing gear

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Never use clutch when shifting up gears fast. Its more strain on engine. Never have on any bike and no problems. Only time its used is when going slow.

  • @jordansbikes819
    @jordansbikes819 4 роки тому +1

    Just put it on market place for swaps

  • @blazemxb
    @blazemxb Рік тому

    Daytona Anima 190 4 Valve is Miles better quality control and power wise, plus made is Japan, Other than that just needs a platform with good suspension and wheelbase

    • @ApocGuy
      @ApocGuy 5 місяців тому

      true, but engine alone cost more than whole 190 today :P .

  • @tommydahlqvist3472
    @tommydahlqvist3472 4 роки тому

    I just bought one of these, taking it out on its maiden voyage today. Wish I had watched this video before I bought it 😂😂😂

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому

      Hope you got a good 1 i have heard of 3 apparently all good. About 20 that have problems like mine.
      Fingers crossed, good bike if OK. Keep me posted as I'm after owner feedback for real review and experiences if you don't mind please. Thanks good luck 👍

    • @tommydahlqvist3472
      @tommydahlqvist3472 4 роки тому

      @@motomachinezuk8786 I'm just back from having it out, it went through all of the gears nicely I must say, very powerful for a pitbike. It would give my CR 125 a run for its money, I stalled it a couple of times but started straight away with the electric start. I had the WPB 160 which I think was a much more stable bike. Its only my first outing on it and the only real criticisms I have so far is that it's unstable, wants to kill you in first and second and stalls very easily in third if your revs are not high enough. I preferred the 160.

    • @motomachinezuk8786
      @motomachinezuk8786  4 роки тому +1

      @@tommydahlqvist3472 yes I've not had this big frame before and it does feel a little unstable compared to my crf70 frame. It's big compared to it.
      My bike worked OK for about 4 hours so be cautious, hopefully you got a good 1 as will be disappointing if not resolved problem on the new batch, they clearly knew it has problem.
      Anyway cheers for letting me know bud

    • @tommydahlqvist3472
      @tommydahlqvist3472 4 роки тому +1

      @@motomachinezuk8786 thanks for the heads up mate. I will keep you updated

    • @Ryanimal1998
      @Ryanimal1998 4 роки тому +1

      @@tommydahlqvist3472 how’s your 190 doing