Everything you said is spot on. One thing I'd add is the rear brake is too small. For example when I need to brake I have to tilt my foot inwards to reach the rear brake, which feels uncomfortable. Also should have mentioned your transmission problem.
Quite standard for pit bike but can buy extended 1 to upgrade. I kinda got use to it. They are all the same, weak and awkward. Transmission problem wll be in long term review. Was alot to think about and get into a vid
Hello, mine arrived yesterday (lying on its side I may add) . Anyway I got it built and started it up and it seems to be over heating so I have added a little oil the exhaust pipe gets ridiculously hot within seconds is this normal?Also do you know where the choke is on this bike? Surely it's not the little yellow thing on the right side of the engine?
Morning bud. First the choke is right on top of carb a black knob you pull up its not easiest to see, right up there. Now the overheating, is something wrong and most likely the outlet tappet is wrong. if tappets or timming wrong the exhaust will grow red pretty quick. I've had similar, you need to just set the tappets etc... you got feeler gauge? Easy job just slightly time consuming
Thanks for the reply, after watching your video again I located the choke thank you. The bike is no longer over heating maybe the oil hadn't settled properly. Anyways, I have also discovered this morning that the petrol feed is the opposite way around. On is off and off is on🤦♂️ who would have guessed eh. Just had it on a little run there and I'm going to adjust the gear stick as it feels a bit to high.
Yes possible as on side that oil ended up somewhere odd. That's good to hear. I had to weld my stock shifter after 1 ride it broke on a weld, flimsy now I got a better 1 fitted. Weird back to front tap lol least it was discovered before silly mistake
What leavers do you use on your 190 beast im looking to get one but ill be getting rid of some what most of the chrome watched all your vids on the 190 beast and you have pushed me to get one and forget about covid 19 for 5 minutes aha. Keep up the quality content 👌
I'm using w racing levers from cw racing on ebay, been very good I had them before on my 170 so tested quite well for durability. Definatelty need a release with everything the way it is right now. Thank you appreciate those nice comments they help me keep making content cheers
Listened to your advice and Just got the stomp z3-160 the choke is a pull out or push in what would you say is choke on and off because it’s running fine when pushed in but as soon as I pull out it cuts off, just want to double check in case I cause a probably down the line thanks mate
Choke will close the flap where air filter connects. I expect it is off pushed in, won't run once warm with choke on and you wont break anything will just run like a bag
@@shannonbrown3719 same sort of choke wen pushed in choke is off pulled out choke is on same things on old my cr 125 I use to have does it bog wen pulled out
Your reviews are great my son has a stomp 120r its his first bike ive added all the usual trick add ons its time now for a new bike would u say the wpb 190cc is a better buy than say a stomp z3 160cc
Thank you glad you think so, cheers. That's quite tuff choice as the Stomp is better quality and engine is tried and tested over time, fast and robust and probably lighter by about 10 kgs. But this 190 is a solid bike with some great attributes like estart and the bigger frame with more clearance and 5 gears like a normal bike 1d 4up. Both great bikes just come down to personal preference mate. This 190 I think would be so much quicker with a makuni carb and some kinda racing ignition, it's got good foundation for tricking up
@@motomachinezuk8786 thanks mate its food for thought i get where u are coming from my sons stomp has been bullet proof so far cant fault it but i think the 190 has maybe better long term potential thank you
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy it and given you the pit bike bug lol. Stomp z3 I would say is overall a more better bike, better components etc.. more expensive too if I remember right. Cant go wrong with a stomp mate
Alright bud? I’ve watched all your content and you give the best review by far! Some laughs and jokes also 😂 just a Quick question. Do you know if welsh pit bike is open with this pandemic going on? I can’t seem to get through. Thanks in advance
Hello mate thank you I appreciate that I try to make review how I see it then and there. Yeh I dont think they ever answer the phone I bet if you email they answer quite quick usually. Worth a try, I cant imagine they are still shut, mainly online anyway I think
MOTO MACHINEZ UK thanks for getting back to me so quickly, I don’t live to far from the shop in Swansea so I’m just going to go down and take a look. I want that 190 haha
@@chrissmith3882 i ordered a bike from them, i wanted an invoice or some correspondence, took me hours of ringing after waiting a week to reply to emails. Eventually got an email saying id got a refund..i never asked for it, but eventually got them on the phone. A rude ignorant man from wpb told me id have to pay their new price if i wanted the bike (£100 extra) told them i wanted it for the price i originally paid. They were so dodgy, i even had to chase up my refund. Avoid at all costs
Great vid, I’m after a new pitbike I had a stomp 120 a few years ago however am looking something quicker. Currently I am looking at a stomp z2 140 for sale with a race carb, I know top speed will be similar to the wpb 190 however what do you think about low down power and acceleration? I’m 90kg so don’t want something too sluggish. However in cost considerations the 190 will cost me twice as much whether this is worth paying. Would appreciate if you could help me thanks!
I have the 190 Beast and I'm about 78kg, it's got plenty of power, shouldn't be a problem. And it's the strongest pitbike you can get anyway. :D And there is also E-start which is great.
hi and thanks for the good comment. I don't think a 140 will feel much quicker than 120 especially at 90kgs, i would say you would be wanting more power after a short time, 160s are common and a very reliable engine than has lots of after market parts available. i would say definitely get a big wheeler 17/14 not 12/10
MOTO MACHINEZ UK thanks for the reply. Yes I was definitely thinking a big wheeler and would be willing to fit aftermarket parts to make quicker. Do you think there’s much difference in power in a 160/170 compared to the 190? I would have a greater chance at finding a second hand one compared to a 190 so would save from buying a new bike.
Been watching your videos trying to give me guidance into what bike I should get I’m stuck between the 170 thumpster dirty s, the 190 beast or the stomp z3 160 what would you recommend just for trail rides and speed thank you enjoy the content
I think the stomp is safest most reliable bet, light, agile and very competitive with endless aftermarket upgrades available for that engine. That dirty s just has fatter wheels I think, s not best for trails etc. Thanks glad you enjoy the content mate
Look at cw 190 build quality is alot better plus there also a used bike/atv/car seller bike workshop as well as there new pits plus have a proper race team
Yeh I know these are nice bike it says they not out till october tho. 190 model with 5 speed. Last 1 was only 4 speed gearbox. One day I might try 1 they always have a nice exhaust system standard
@@motomachinezuk8786 and the suspension is alot better too the Welsh pit bike is the cheapest out the 3 they do even tho its all the same company I think it's goes wpb cheapest then deomon x or stomp as a better quality I mean I never hear anything bad about the stomp or demon x and there never really any 2nd hand for sale only wpb and usually had an engine swap to a stomp so what that tell u lol and the Funbikes made 2 race bikes look good quality too
@@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc yeh I agree wpb is cheapest option this was 1099 delivered . Stomp dont do a 190 or demon yet that I know . Iwoud like to try a cw in the future
Do you know where to get it from
Everything you said is spot on. One thing I'd add is the rear brake is too small. For example when I need to brake I have to tilt my foot inwards to reach the rear brake, which feels uncomfortable. Also should have mentioned your transmission problem.
Quite standard for pit bike but can buy extended 1 to upgrade. I kinda got use to it. They are all the same, weak and awkward. Transmission problem wll be in long term review. Was alot to think about and get into a vid
@@motomachinezuk8786 yeah thinking of upgrading brake and clutch. I appreciate the time and effort to make this vid. Thanks 👍🏻
Great video 🇬🇧👍🏻
Thanks for the video I wasent sure about getting an 85 2t or this bike👍
Do you mix the fuel and oil together the same as 2 strokes ?
No
Hello, mine arrived yesterday (lying on its side I may add) . Anyway I got it built and started it up and it seems to be over heating so I have added a little oil the exhaust pipe gets ridiculously hot within seconds is this normal?Also do you know where the choke is on this bike? Surely it's not the little yellow thing on the right side of the engine?
Morning bud. First the choke is right on top of carb a black knob you pull up its not easiest to see, right up there.
Now the overheating, is something wrong and most likely the outlet tappet is wrong. if tappets or timming wrong the exhaust will grow red pretty quick. I've had similar, you need to just set the tappets etc... you got feeler gauge? Easy job just slightly time consuming
Thanks for the reply, after watching your video again I located the choke thank you. The bike is no longer over heating maybe the oil hadn't settled properly. Anyways, I have also discovered this morning that the petrol feed is the opposite way around. On is off and off is on🤦♂️ who would have guessed eh. Just had it on a little run there and I'm going to adjust the gear stick as it feels a bit to high.
Yes possible as on side that oil ended up somewhere odd. That's good to hear. I had to weld my stock shifter after 1 ride it broke on a weld, flimsy now I got a better 1 fitted.
Weird back to front tap lol least it was discovered before silly mistake
What leavers do you use on your 190 beast im looking to get one but ill be getting rid of some what most of the chrome watched all your vids on the 190 beast and you have pushed me to get one and forget about covid 19 for 5 minutes aha. Keep up the quality content 👌
I'm using w racing levers from cw racing on ebay, been very good I had them before on my 170 so tested quite well for durability. Definatelty need a release with everything the way it is right now. Thank you appreciate those nice comments they help me keep making content cheers
@@motomachinezuk8786 ok thank you keep up the quality content bud #staysafe
would you say this or the rfx 190 is better for enduro
Rfx
Listened to your advice and Just got the stomp z3-160 the choke is a pull out or push in what would you say is choke on and off because it’s running fine when pushed in but as soon as I pull out it cuts off, just want to double check in case I cause a probably down the line thanks mate
Choke will close the flap where air filter connects. I expect it is off pushed in, won't run once warm with choke on and you wont break anything will just run like a bag
MOTO MACHINEZ UK yeah that makes sense mate was running perfect when it was pushed in, thanks mate 👍🏼
@@shannonbrown3719 same sort of choke wen pushed in choke is off pulled out choke is on same things on old my cr 125 I use to have does it bog wen pulled out
What should I get I’m 6ft, don’t know what size pit bike I fit.
they will all feel small but a cw is a good brand, demon ,stomp are also good bikes. just stick taller bars on it mate
I love your reviews
Think the bumps are the welding spatter
What website could you buy this bike off?
Vendetta thank you bike I need
Your reviews are great my son has a stomp 120r its his first bike ive added all the usual trick add ons its time now for a new bike would u say the wpb 190cc is a better buy than say a stomp z3 160cc
Thank you glad you think so, cheers. That's quite tuff choice as the
Stomp is better quality and engine is tried and tested over time, fast and robust and probably lighter by about 10 kgs. But this 190 is a solid bike with some great attributes like estart and the bigger frame with more clearance and 5 gears like a normal bike 1d 4up. Both great bikes just come down to personal preference mate. This 190 I think would be so much quicker with a makuni carb and some kinda racing ignition, it's got good foundation for tricking up
@@motomachinezuk8786 thanks mate its food for thought i get where u are coming from my sons stomp has been bullet proof so far cant fault it but i think the 190 has maybe better long term potential thank you
Love the content, made me want to get a pitty now, just stuck on what to get, demon x xlr2 170cc or wpb 160cc or stomp z3 160
Thanks I'm glad you enjoy it and given you the pit bike bug lol. Stomp z3 I would say is overall a more better bike, better components etc.. more expensive too if I remember right. Cant go wrong with a stomp mate
@@motomachinezuk8786 I'm 6ft big built so really looking for one with enough grunt to still beable to have fun on aha
Alright bud? I’ve watched all your content and you give the best review by far! Some laughs and jokes also 😂 just a Quick question. Do you know if welsh pit bike is open with this pandemic going on? I can’t seem to get through. Thanks in advance
Hello mate thank you I appreciate that I try to make review how I see it then and there. Yeh I dont think they ever answer the phone I bet if you email they answer quite quick usually. Worth a try, I cant imagine they are still shut, mainly online anyway I think
MOTO MACHINEZ UK thanks for getting back to me so quickly, I don’t live to far from the shop in Swansea so I’m just going to go down and take a look. I want that 190 haha
No worries hope you have some joy. Mention channel if you do they know it
@@chrissmith3882 i ordered a bike from them, i wanted an invoice or some correspondence, took me hours of ringing after waiting a week to reply to emails. Eventually got an email saying id got a refund..i never asked for it, but eventually got them on the phone. A rude ignorant man from wpb told me id have to pay their new price if i wanted the bike (£100 extra) told them i wanted it for the price i originally paid. They were so dodgy, i even had to chase up my refund. Avoid at all costs
@@debzi6 I know exactly what your saying bud! I’ve spoken to them on the phone and they spoke to me like absolute shit so I took my money elsewhere
Great vid, I’m after a new pitbike I had a stomp 120 a few years ago however am looking something quicker. Currently I am looking at a stomp z2 140 for sale with a race carb, I know top speed will be similar to the wpb 190 however what do you think about low down power and acceleration? I’m 90kg so don’t want something too sluggish. However in cost considerations the 190 will cost me twice as much whether this is worth paying. Would appreciate if you could help me thanks!
I have the 190 Beast and I'm about 78kg, it's got plenty of power, shouldn't be a problem. And it's the strongest pitbike you can get anyway. :D And there is also E-start which is great.
hi and thanks for the good comment. I don't think a 140 will feel much quicker than 120 especially at 90kgs, i would say you would be wanting more power after a short time, 160s are common and a very reliable engine than has lots of after market parts available. i would say definitely get a big wheeler 17/14 not 12/10
MOTO MACHINEZ UK thanks for the reply. Yes I was definitely thinking a big wheeler and would be willing to fit aftermarket parts to make quicker. Do you think there’s much difference in power in a 160/170 compared to the 190? I would have a greater chance at finding a second hand one compared to a 190 so would save from buying a new bike.
@@patrickgeorge7840 a good wheel option is 14"f and 12"r not seen many with the 12/10 set up other than the old x sports
Have you had any problems with the gears?
No but I've heard people are especially with the first batch, sorted it now apparently
MOTO MACHINEZ UK oh ok , so all the 190 beasts that they are currently selling are ok with the gearbox ?
D E M O N I got sent a part in august and I'm still to fit it
@@barclay0876 is it hard to fit it or not?
@@weber9160 sort off. Think he has a video about it
how much??
When I got mine delivered it was £1099. Think they gone up £100 now unless you collect.
@@motomachinezuk8786 in what page or store you orders it mate?
Been watching your videos trying to give me guidance into what bike I should get I’m stuck between the 170 thumpster dirty s, the 190 beast or the stomp z3 160 what would you recommend just for trail rides and speed thank you enjoy the content
I think the stomp is safest most reliable bet, light, agile and very competitive with endless aftermarket upgrades available for that engine. That dirty s just has fatter wheels I think, s not best for trails etc. Thanks glad you enjoy the content mate
You should do the 190cc Vs a 170cc
Going to do 1 asap on the private road so both have decent traction, no excuses from bullhead situation
@@motomachinezuk8786 Ill stay tuned
Look at cw 190 build quality is alot better plus there also a used bike/atv/car seller bike workshop as well as there new pits plus have a proper race team
Yeh I know these are nice bike it says they not out till october tho. 190 model with 5 speed. Last 1 was only 4 speed gearbox. One day I might try 1 they always have a nice exhaust system standard
@@motomachinezuk8786 and the suspension is alot better too the Welsh pit bike is the cheapest out the 3 they do even tho its all the same company I think it's goes wpb cheapest then deomon x or stomp as a better quality I mean I never hear anything bad about the stomp or demon x and there never really any 2nd hand for sale only wpb and usually had an engine swap to a stomp so what that tell u lol and the Funbikes made 2 race bikes look good quality too
@@Lee-At-Green-Pheonix-Rc yeh I agree wpb is cheapest option this was 1099 delivered . Stomp dont do a 190 or demon yet that I know . Iwoud like to try a cw in the future
5 foot 9! Now I know why you ride a pit bike c:
Some of the best motocross racers where under 5 5 so I dunno wtf your on about
@@MrDEANOSCOOLVIDS called a joke p: