Whom ever killed Officer Okeefe may never face the consequences and they’ll be no justice because of the poor police investigation with this case. That just adds to this tragedy
But that's the biggest red flag for me ... even cops that are usually useless, pull out all the stops to investigate and get justice for 'one of their own' ...
I'm so sick of hearing about poor police investigations. It's ridiculous, no? If that be the case....on many cases....then...they'd dern better...train the employees...so that they are up to snuff.
I think it's funny that he tries to pretend he doesn't know how to do what he eventually admitted to doing lol well maybe he didn't know at first but he clearly learned how to at some point as he testified to hear... Also have you ever seen a witness being allowed to talk to his lawyer mid testimony? That's something that you'll only ever see happen for a cop... They just lost this case, unless the jury is also corrupted which also happens all the time...
@@ssgemactv I agree, the jury could only be also corrupted to find this woman guilty. But just FYI, the jury was out of the room when Higgins had his lawyer standing there, and yes its very unusual. But I do think they had the knowledge that he had hired counsel.
All of these witnesses have been tormented and harassed and accused for the last several years. Karen killed John. And she sits there smug and smiling while she drags all of these people through her ridiculous drama.
Wouldn’t you disagree when someone is twisting everything you say or did into something that it’s not? I would do the same thing and NOT let them get away with what they’re trying to do.
@@Marilynn-minoux honestly she didn’t hit him with car.. I don’t know what happened in that house but they’re all involved somehow some way! People lie for a reason. Personally I think Colin and BH I think John was using her to take care of kids while he drank with the boys.. too bad the last two years of her life has been ruined, no job, car income etc I don’t think she’ll be found guilty but I do think FEDS will be issuing incitements and perhaps a couple felony charges on BH
@@Marilynn-minoux they didn’t look nice but they were not what I thought they may be. I think is was attention and when she saw it was going to far put on breaks he got offended
Doubt she ever actually intended to follow through on a hook up. Seems like she was just using him to get back at John for cheating on her, but that doesn't make her a murderer.
These are some hard partying, heavy drinking family and friends. When you throw in multiple cops, you now have hard partying, heavy drinkers with power and privilege. If you're on the receiving end of their ire, heaven help you. Karen has the next best thing to divine intervention, she has Jackson and Yanetti.
This is supposedly a friend of Johns trying to get in his girlfriend’s pants ! Some friend !! Also he’s a cop who admits to drinking and driving … “What a charming fella said no one ever” !
She initiated. And it takes a strong fella...to resist the attention...of an attractive gal....who is feigning...unhappiness in a current relationship. SHE....knows how to work it.
@@allkindsamusicchickno actually he initiated… when she was outside and he turned around.. that was the jump! The entire group are pathetic immature drunks
@@allkindsamusicchicka 100% misogynist. You maybe be either a woman or a man, either way, you are. Shame on you if you are a female! Flirting is not a crime, it may be morally wrong, but never a crime !
Yeah I think he was involved, one of them behind it but really feel it was Albert & Colon with their boxing background. “Oh yeah we’ll knock him out for you, teach him a lesson”. But I really feel the reason is more than him having a thing for Karen, definitely part of the reason but there’s more.
Being drunk and wondering if he walked back and u didnt see him. So many explanations but no evidence to show she did. Why is she the only one with her phone and others destroyed theirs after being told to preserve them?
He comes off as extremely credible.. especially while reading the text exchange from Karen and how she was manipulating him and how uncomfortable he was around her.
He insisted himself on this case when he was a potential witness into what happened at the house. And had the ability to nosey around at the police station and report back the to group. The chief should have said back off to him. Having 4 whiskies + other drinks should not have been driving, not alone a snow plough. What's why he got to an attorney .
Hes been on enough trials ffs, stop being so evasive dude. Doyee wish i knew how that Swipe works. 😅😅😅 what does it do???? Omg, who called him smart? Done here with this aggravated answers.
Why waste everyone’s time making the witness find all the cryptic numbers on a page of numbers …give the raw data to the prosecutor with a synopsis of every key card swipe to the witness and make the point. Everyone goes home 20 minutes earlier that day
Bad police work but what might they have found in the police car regarding this case? We need the experts. Little snippy comments made by defense after witness shouldn’t be allowed imo.
Well that would be because the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt falls solely on the prosecution. The defense does not need to prove anything, other than there is a reasonable doubt she did not murder him.
Possible, but then why all the rehoming? Rehoming the dog, rehoming (getting rid of) the phones, rehoming themselves, digging up the cement in the cellar, suspicious missing videos such as at the sally port?
I wouldn't call flirting with someone an "ex-fling," as the title says.
I was just thinking that.
Right lol
Riveting
Yep definitely not an ex
L&C has always been slanted towards law enforcement, as the channel title suggests.
Whom ever killed Officer Okeefe may never face the consequences and they’ll be no justice because of the poor police investigation with this case. That just adds to this tragedy
But that's the biggest red flag for me ... even cops that are usually useless, pull out all the stops to investigate and get justice for 'one of their own' ...
I'm so sick of hearing about poor police investigations. It's ridiculous, no? If that be the case....on many cases....then...they'd dern better...train the employees...so that they are up to snuff.
Its amazing how many of these witnesses, in the field of law enforcement no less, and know better, have destroyed or disposed of cell phones.
I think they don't want KR to get away with killing a LEO.
I think it's funny that he tries to pretend he doesn't know how to do what he eventually admitted to doing lol well maybe he didn't know at first but he clearly learned how to at some point as he testified to hear... Also have you ever seen a witness being allowed to talk to his lawyer mid testimony? That's something that you'll only ever see happen for a cop... They just lost this case, unless the jury is also corrupted which also happens all the time...
@@ssgemactv I agree, the jury could only be also corrupted to find this woman guilty. But just FYI, the jury was out of the room when Higgins had his lawyer standing there, and yes its very unusual. But I do think they had the knowledge that he had hired counsel.
People with nothing to hide aren’t this evasive or combative
So obvious cops in and around Canton drink and drive and also lie to the fullest!
Is that unusual ??????
@@aklemmer8936 seems coplike!
above the law
Most cops drink and drive
@@pennytyson4358 I guess they feel they are above the law.
Karen Reads Attourney is sharp!
All these witnesses are so defensive....
All of these witnesses have been tormented and harassed and accused for the last several years. Karen killed John. And she sits there smug and smiling while she drags all of these people through her ridiculous drama.
@@irongirl8007you are blind! What makes you think that? It is totally ridiculous. She didn’t have any motive to kill him.
I think you would be to if your being drilled over and over again
@@irongirl8007cops investigated nothing, how would you know
He just wants to disagree... weather the answer is yes or no he MUST DISAGREE
Wouldn’t you disagree when someone is twisting everything you say or did into something that it’s not? I would do the same thing and NOT let them get away with what they’re trying to do.
I think kR was just looking for attention i don’t think John gave her any he was always drinking like teenages! Grow up people!
Yes! Thank you, I felt like I must be the only person that doesn’t think she’s this horrible monster from these texts.
She definitely has social anxiety issues, very insecure.
@@Marilynn-minoux honestly she didn’t hit him with car.. I don’t know what happened in that house but they’re all involved somehow some way! People lie for a reason. Personally I think Colin and BH I think John was using her to take care of kids while he drank with the boys.. too bad the last two years of her life has been ruined, no job, car income etc I don’t think she’ll be found guilty but I do think FEDS will be issuing incitements and perhaps a couple felony charges on BH
@@Marilynn-minoux they didn’t look nice but they were not what I thought they may be. I think is was attention and when she saw it was going to far put on breaks he got offended
Ooooih c’mooon! She is a clever and educated woman. She could leave him !
Thank you for covering this case much appreciated
Just proves what a liar🤥Higgins destroying his phone how convenient?
💞Free Karen Read💞
Kim🇬🇧
This has to be the longest stupidest trial ever
For sure.
Oh yeah
It's a NECESSARY process after all a human being was murdered
@@lenaknight7571 exactly she’s guilty FFS…ridiculous the time and money spent on this guilty woman
Totally agreed(Sirens seem:sus
Karen must have really been desperate to try to hook up with this guy. Yikes
Doubt she ever actually intended to follow through on a hook up. Seems like she was just using him to get back at John for cheating on her, but that doesn't make her a murderer.
@@MG-ot2yrDo you hear yourself? Get back at him for cheating? She wanted to do more than get back at him, she wanted him gone.
@@Starsfullaskies That's your opinion, I disagree.
@@MG-ot2yr Infidelity, one of the oldest motives in the book.
He didn't cheat 😮
Flirting now constitutes a fling? The ignorance of some folks.
Well, it is SOMETHING. It’s not a platonic relationship anymore.
It was enough that he destroyed his phone to hide the evidence
I dont remember....err, no one guilty ever does...Dude seems to have a chip on his shoulder towards the defense lawyer...
Ex fling ? I hope she sues you ! Lie like the liar on the stand !
These are some hard partying, heavy drinking family and friends. When you throw in multiple cops, you now have hard partying, heavy drinkers with power and privilege. If you're on the receiving end of their ire, heaven help you.
Karen has the next best thing to divine intervention, she has Jackson and Yanetti.
This is supposedly a friend of Johns trying to get in his girlfriend’s pants ! Some friend !! Also he’s a cop who admits to drinking and driving … “What a charming fella said no one ever” !
She initiated. And it takes a strong fella...to resist the attention...of an attractive gal....who is feigning...unhappiness in a current relationship. SHE....knows how to work it.
@@allkindsamusicchickI respect my friends and values then Karen is hot no Higgins 😅
@@allkindsamusicchickno actually he initiated… when she was outside and he turned around.. that was the jump!
The entire group are pathetic immature drunks
@@allkindsamusicchicka 100% misogynist. You maybe be either a woman or a man, either way, you are. Shame on you if you are a female! Flirting is not a crime, it may be morally wrong, but never a crime !
You have misstated the facts. Shame on you.
Ex fling 😂😂😂😂 it was a few text messages
Bunch of middle aged people acted like teenagers and one of them died
Dont insult teens❤
He doesn’t recall??? 🤣. His so called friend is dead! But he embers the design of the glass. What a loser!!! Such a cover up of friends and family.
THOSE SIRENS SEEM TO SEND A MESSAGE
It was never a fling
If he went to the hospital and was treated for dog bites he was involved
Search or inspected? Come on be serious you are stalling mister
One kiss is a fling?? What an idiotic video title.
It only takes one kiss....to lead you down another road.
Well, it’s hard to quantify it, but it is SOMETHING. It’s not a platonic relationship anymore.
@@allkindsamusicchicknot some lingering tongue down your throat kiss!
Geez… I could barely make it through the texts. So cringe
“ fling” doesn’t seem accurate
The fact this “hottie” really thought he was all that😂. He’s big butt hurt and wanted to bury Karen for jilting him!
Dude looks like he's been packing the pounds on..stress/guilt eating/boozing..hmmmm
no BH and BA looked much heavier in video from pub....
Higgins look so uncomfortable!
I don't think he's krx Flame
this guy got away with murder...
I think Higgins did it.
@@kathypainter2211& Albert, & punk Colin!, DID THE MURDER
Yeah I think he was involved, one of them behind it but really feel it was Albert & Colon with their boxing background. “Oh yeah we’ll knock him out for you, teach him a lesson”. But I really feel the reason is more than him having a thing for Karen, definitely part of the reason but there’s more.
Did they get a friends and family discount for employing a small army of personal attorneys?
4:01 DID I HIT JOHN/ HIM???
A QUESTION,
NOT AN ADMISSION !!
Even though you see that as not being an admission, the fact she had to ask if she hit him, still makes her suspect.
Exactly, she put herself in this situation
And what puzzles me is when she said on her tv interview she saw him walk to the door. So why even question if you hit him or not 🥴
Being drunk and wondering if he walked back and u didnt see him. So many explanations but no evidence to show she did. Why is she the only one with her phone and others destroyed theirs after being told to preserve them?
I don’t understand why she asked that question!
Are you even watching the same trial? X?
Title quite overreach
😮is there a reason adverts are coming up ever TWO MINUTES come-on 😡😤
Not an x fling at all shame on you
This guy is a liar. Don’t believe a word. Cop’s are trained to lie!
He comes off as extremely credible.. especially while reading the text exchange from Karen and how she was manipulating him and how uncomfortable he was around her.
@@GML_123. you’re opinion
@@GML_123.so that why he got rid of his phone
Bev sounds a wee bit defensive higgins removed evidence in dw.
Karen wanted her some Higgins
According to the texts it seems its the other way around. He seemed desperate to the point of unhinged.
@@mistyevans8160I don't see it that way at all. She initiated the entire thing.
@@JK-lp6uw yes, initiated out of pain, but ended it while his desperation couldn't allow him to stop.
Don't see the connection between them,soo strange😅;)*
He insisted himself on this case when he was a potential witness into what happened at the house. And had the ability to nosey around at the police station and report back the to group. The chief should have said back off to him. Having 4 whiskies + other drinks should not have been driving, not alone a snow plough. What's why he got to an attorney .
Hes been on enough trials ffs, stop being so evasive dude. Doyee wish i knew how that Swipe works. 😅😅😅 what does it do???? Omg, who called him smart? Done here with this aggravated answers.
Ex-fling? Uh-uh. ❤
look at her file, there must be several Higgins , Sad that John didnt run away from her before she murdered him
Karen Prison is coming ⚖️
I wish he had been looking at his ring on his phone when she gave away that pic to his buddy
You’re a nut
Thats the trooper that one of the wives calles buchachi... 😅😅😅😅
Interesting that Karen was so jealous over what John was up to yet she’s kissing and texting other dudes.
You don’t know what happened!
She didn't say she was jealous. She said that she would not want to know.
Why waste everyone’s time making the witness find all the cryptic numbers on a page of numbers …give the raw data to the prosecutor with a synopsis of every key card swipe to the witness and make the point. Everyone goes home 20 minutes earlier that day
The evidence wasn’t allowed in that way. Thank Lally for that.
The coughing in that room is annoying.
It's a hired Cougher, leave the Phlegm cough at home!😂
Bad police work but what might they have found in the police car regarding this case? We need the experts. Little snippy comments made by defense after witness shouldn’t be allowed imo.
I do not like this attorney. Hes so obnoxious
This Guy is Sweet 🎂 Stay away Dear
How does a defense team choose which lawyer cross examines a witness?
She seems to have a thing for cops!
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What time?? H mm
You can’t text your next fling when your in the truck with your live in boyfriend..
There is no hard proof on either side. Omg
Well that would be because the burden of proof beyond a reasonable doubt falls solely on the prosecution. The defense does not need to prove anything, other than there is a reasonable doubt she did not murder him.
SHE is guilty!
O she is sooo innocent!
She has no idea if she's guilty or not too drunk 😮
🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@yogabee2222Drunk yes
Maybe none of them did it and it was a hit and run…
Possible, but then why all the rehoming? Rehoming the dog, rehoming (getting rid of) the phones, rehoming themselves, digging up the cement in the cellar, suspicious missing videos such as at the sally port?
She used this cop and is trying to pin it in him hood plan she had but it’s gonna backfire
😊😅😮
I think the punk joke kid beat him and put him outside and Karen accidentally ran over him not knowing!
“..jection 🥱 “
-Mis-duh Lally