You are nitpicking in railroad candle thing. If you finish the game with the railroad as the top faction, there is no need to keep their presence secret - they are all over the commonwealth, diamond city and military checkpoints. Because the game makes these paints available, doesn't mean that the player has to use them from the start - that's the player's "fault". My problem with all these power armor-weapons-armor skins is that there are available from the beginning. The player should be able to use them after at least they first meet a member of the faction - or after killing a gunner for enemy ones - and not just after they exit the vault.
Michail Zorzos It’s true that they shouldn’t be available from the start, but the problem with the Railroad still stands. Until you destroy the Institute, they are supposed to be hidden. I honestly don’t feel like the paint scheme would even warrant existing if you had to finish the main storyline to unlock it, but it really wouldn’t work at any point before then. Even as a free mod, I doubt anyone would ever bother with it if they had to wait until it was appropriate.
I mean I agree with you it's like some of the faction based settlement items but at the same time most people have played through the game and might pretend they found a piece of that factions armour and decided hey let's join them or some shit like that but i some what agree with you
The old world flag on the Minutemen armor and weapons is in reference to the original Minutemen in the 1700s. Preston even references this during the long walk to sanctuary as they are passing the statue. While they are not rebuilding the ideals of America as it was just before the war, they’re still rebuilding America, just built upon the ideals that it SHOULD have been built upon.
Chris Sanderson The Minutemen armor would have still Looked better with more Minutemen logos instead of the flags on the shoulders and synth helmet. Alternatively for me I would probably use the sturdy combat arms seeing as they arent painted with flags
@Viktor Samoja Are you dumb? the Gadsden flag was never an official flag. the stars and stripes was the flag during the revolution. It was the Betsy Ross flag.
Maybe the SS specifically went with the old flag in this case as it was the flag America used before it became corrupted, symbolizing Freedom and Liberty without the twisted corporate society of Fallout's pre-war America.
Oxhorn, I believe the "arrows" you pointed out are Brotherhood rank insignia. You find similar markings on Brotherhood power armor paint schemes, even the unmodded T-60 Brotherhood power armor.
warren baker I always thought the knight ranks always looked like a large chevron with the U.S insignia for a chevron for sergeant and two bars for captain
The strange thing, however, is that the Sentinel, General and Elder insignias look like British 2nd Lieutenant, Lieutenant and Captain insignias respectively, but the Brotherhood was formed by an American
How exactly do you mean. Like how the Brotherhood has their Scribe armors and the Institute has the Courser armor? Each of the factions already has such unique armors available to them that it would kind of redundant would it not?
Each faction already has trademark uniforms and armor. BOS use their uniforms and combat armor. Institute has the white synth outfit and their porcelain armor. Railroad uses armored coats. The Minutemen have uniforms but no trademark armor. That said, it sort of makes sense for them just to scavenge the wasteland and use whatever they can loot from raider and gunner corpses. That's why I particularly like the Minutemen faction paint from this CC update. The new BOS armor colors looks much better than the vanilla BOS armor colors as well.
+Joshua B Not for PS4 users. Most people who care about anything released by CC are probably console users. That said, there's also a segment of players that care about CC content because they might want to play without achievements disabled.
Ha. Hahaha. "Free." HAH. Bethesda doesn't know what 'Free' or 'DLC' even means anymore. Why do work when they can have Modders do it instead, then profit off of it themselves?
i dont think it can be a referance to lyons pride because in the present day noone in the brotherhood follows lyons ideals on account of elder maxon restoring the brotherhood to the outcasts ideals.
"In fact it's so short, we don't have time for the intro!" *cue sped up and distorted intro* I love your comedic touch! It definitely adds a lot to your videos and commentary!
On the BoS scheme: the "arrows" are most likely rank insignia, appearing as a stylized NCO Rank (Sergeant and up). Probably Staff Sergeant or Sergeant First Class, model dependant
Rank insignia would be the stacked chevrons - vertical and/or horizontal. There's also actual arrows, and they are different enough that they don't appear to be related (as well as both being shown in different places on a single set of armour.) You can see both on the same chestpiece at 2:58 - but I'm guess they're purely aesthetic and not actually significant.
Faction paint? Really? "Here's a paid mod version of something you've been able to get off the Nexus since a week after Fallout 4 launched. But it's totally not a paid mod, it's a 'mini DLC.'"
@Oxhorn the candle logo for the railroad is meant to be “a light to shine the way” in two ways, the Old North Church is where the lanterns were placed to mark “one if by land, two of by sea” and also their name harkens back to the American Underground Railroad, which operated by night, so a lantern would be the logo for it, hence why Bethesda and mod authors would use candles and lanterns all over the place on armor and weapon skins
Oxhorn, I think the US flag is more a representation of the ideals the minutemen follow pre revolutionary war. As you find Preston holed up in the museum of freedom. He takes a moment to admire the the minuteman statue outside Sanctuary. The old stronghold of the minutemen is Fort Independence. Even the Tricorn hat, the Generals uniform, prestons trench coat, and minuteman uniform is modeled after colonial army/militia uniforms. Which makes more sense as to why they use the US flag, but not the enclave flag. The blue minuteman flag is closer to a regiment flag. Just my two cents.
Does the "S" stand for "sarcasm"? :P Seriously though, Fallout 4/Skyrim players actually do show Bethesda what they want from them with their dollars (or lack thereof). True, I doubt anyone from Bethesda will see my comment and I am only one out of millions of Fallout 4 players. But I at least hope to mirror what other disenfranchised fans of this series feel when they see content and business models like this. And, as a community, we really do influence what companies do, for better or worse. As I said above, I hope CC produces something in the future that interests me. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Your fun is as good as mine. It's funny, I feel as if I could have summed up this point of view in two short sentences. How's that for sarcasm? ;)
Thanks but I don't hate CC, not really. I just wish Bethesda would return to rising above the bad habits of the gaming industry and show more pride for their own lore.
They should have a creation club that allows you to paint unpaintable items such as the yellow flight helmet and make it say that beautiful Minuteman blue seen in this video. Perhaps have it as a Minuteman skin with the logo. Yeah, I would like that
Yeah the faction armour paintjobs look good, but again they just feel like something that allready should've been part of the game, and I wouldnt buy them
Well I'm sure they'll go on sale for free at some point. The weapon skins, power armor skins and pipboy skins go on sale for free periodically. I have all of the power armor skins and pipboy skins (minus chrome) and some of the weapon skins and I didn't pay a cent. I got the Minuteman paint armor scheme with my free 100 CC credits because I didn't want to wait.
thats why i frequently check the creation club.its so i can see if anythins new because sometimes new thing are free for a little bit like transdogrifier or different pip boy skins
The "arrows" on the BOS armor are the ranks. The wolf insignias with a dagger might represent a special division or more likely a special op division. In real life the upside down dagger can be seen with the USAF Spec ops command(just missing the wings). So cross referencing and taken in the characteristics of wolves. This special division is comprised of air commandos, specializing in search & destroy missions as well as SAR(search and rescue) by dropping out of aircrafts. Symbolizing the wolves, they work and hunt in packs. They will not stop until their objective is complete. They are train in land nav, HALO(high altitude low opening) jumps, JTAC(joint terminal attack controller) ie direct precision air strikes, combat dive, special tactics, adv medical training, SERE(survival, evasion, resistance, escape), counter intel, psych ops., adv weaponry, and special warfare. Handpicked by the Elder himself from unique candidates who are the best in their squad or have the drive to become one. They will go through rigorous training courses all of which will take 3 years to complete. Each course is pass or fail, no in between. The instructors or cadres are battle hardened veterans who will make sure to test/push each candidates' limits and beyond. In case you're curious the washout rate is 90%, it is tough. But if you made it then you are the best that the BOS has to offer. Join today!
About the Wolf and Dagger thing; - Dagger tattoos were common among Army and Marines soldier from WWII. The dagger symbolizes danger, ferocity and death. (Also, having a dagger tattoo meant for them "quickness".) -And Wolf tattoos are often used to symbolize determination, ruthlessness, ferocity, as well as "family", in the way of having "brothers" and "sisters" (as in an army //BoS) and defending eachother as a pack. So I guess this is a way to describe the Brotherhood as a pack of soldiers that are determined to get what they want, any ways possible (death, ferocity, etc..). I think it's neat. I can perfectly picture the Brotherhood having that kinda symbol, thinking it's badass and basically saying "Don't mess with us".
As much as I love the Minutemen, I love putting my men in leather armor that's been tinted black the most. It looks protected, and still militia like at the same time. Plus, who doesn't like black armor? As a bonus, using it on the combat or metal armor makes it look like your guard post settlers belong there.
To be honest oxhorn, I only come to you for fallout content because you’re not some over the top UA-camr who is too energetic, you’re a chill guy who just enjoys the game and can have a chill video that honestly entertains me more and any UA-camr that I watch for info about a game L
As for the Old world flag being used by the Minute men paint job, I imagine that finding reference of the the original flag used by the founding Fathers, would be almost impossible in mess that is the wasteland, so the minute men, just used what they could easily find a reference for.
And in Fallout that particular saying is already in use by Hancock the mayor of Goodnighbor. Useing it again for the Minutemen is an established game lore brake for me. So I'm good the CC fails again.
the minutemen based their ideals on the militia during the american revolution. hancock based his persona on a member of the founding fathers. it isn't hard to believe that both learned about a particular phrase from american history and decided to use it.
^ funny enough he didn't even have wooden teeth lol kinda weird you'd play these games without a fundamental grasp of American history considering how dependent on it the entire series is lol
First, in the Brotherhood the animals used to be. The elder lions had a lion and secondly, not all of it is a arrows, there are some sheld's that are used in the Brotherhood as mark the officer rank, and the other arrows are there because the firearms arrows are pointed in the direction of the shot and in the armor they are pointing on the palms and feet
The arrows means how you have to put them on each part of your body like the chestplate arrow pointing down meaning wearing it downward and the arms upward
I personally really adore these new paint jobs, the Minutemen and Brotherhood paintjobs especially, as it allows me in my unmodded playthroughs to truly represent my faction of choice (usually Minutemen and occasionally Brotherhood), and the colors really really pop. My only critique on them is that when upgrading the Armor pieces one has to repaint the armor so as to have the paint appear. I've personally have loved the Creation Club thus far, I have everything but the Doom armor, but I do hope that now that we have these faction skins that we will begin seeing more and more weapon/ armor sets that get integrated into the level and spawn lists, the Handmade Shotgun was a good example of this with how each of it's legendary effects gave the weapon a unique skin, as well as more Dungeon like content ala the Tunnel Snakes Rule addon.
The arrows on the Brotherhood of Steel Armor indicate how to equip them in the proper way. The torse pieces have arrows pointing down, because you slide them on from above and it tells you which way is right side up. The arm pieces have up arrows, indicating they are to be slid on upwards and which side is right side up. Similar arrows are painted on laser weapons, instructing the user in the proper direction the parts should be facing. While the wolf logos on the metal armor have no tie in to BOS lore that I am aware of, it wouldn't be the first time the Brotherhood used animal symbolism because the Capitol Wasteland BOS was pretty big on the Lyons Pride as an elite BOS unit. While Lyons might have been a play on the Elder and Sentinels's last name, the Pride connects the association of a group of powerful lions, while also getting across how much respect and faith the Elder had in this group.
Oxhorn, the "wolf and dagger" symbol on the knees at the brotherhood paint job could be an emblem of a regiment or platoon. Those are often used in militaries.
A possible reasoning for the OLD world logo could be that the minutemen decided that they saw the merging into the 13 commonwealths as a bad idea and want to bring back the fifty states instead.
Yea, he's not ignorant of lore, just forgetful like how he said how he doesn't remember any animals being related to the bos even though fallout 3 exists (if you beat the game you'll know what i mean)
The arrows on the BoS armor could be rank badges , at least the ones on the pauldrons. The lion/wolf thing could be a reference to the Lyon’s Pride. For the Minutemen, I think the armor has the Old World Flag because more than likely they’ve never seen the Old Glory or the Betsy Ross. It could also be a reference to the fact that the Old World Flag looks like the Betsy Ross Flag.
About what you said about the Wolf symbol on the Brotherhood paint; I believe that it symbolizes a lone wolf or a Sole Survivor because you spend a large portion of the game more or less on your own with only one companion. And the part you said about the American flag on the Minutemen paint, may not necessarily represent America throughout time as a whole, but what the flag was meant to represent in the beginning of the founding of The United States. Freedom which is arguably quite similar to what Preston says the Minutemen are about: "The people of the Commonwealth banding together to protect ourselves and decide our own future."
2:54 you can see arrows on the brotherhood of steel Power Armor, so I think the creator was going for a style like that to make it look more like it belongs to the brotherhood
Some people think the paint jobs are a waste but I really like them, and they give many away for free! I think if you are looking to show off your loyalty to a faction, no better way is these paints. My fav is the military paint job on combat armour and the synth armour with the institute paint
I'm thinking the wolf ox noted might be the artist's attempt at a lion, referencing fallout 3's Elder Lyons, Sarah Lyons and the Lyons' Pride of that game's BoS. Might just be a wolf, though :D
That wolf in the BOS suit. Have you known about Wolf Pack trooppers from Star Wars cw? Commandos wear dark black suits and have wolfs painted in legs I think that is reason.
The in game minutemen are a reference to the real-life minutemen, so that's who they're inspired by. Hell, you even meet them in concord for the first time which has pretty historical significance for the real minutemen. They were a militia that made up a quarter of the colonies forces during the revolutionary War. Known for being quick to mobilize and defend their neighbor colonies from threats, hence where the name minutemen comes from. The revolutionary War also spawned the first iteration of the American flag we know today, with stars and stripes of the original 13 colonies. That's where the flag on the minutemen paint job comes from. In real-life the minutemen have basically turned into the American national guard still true to their origin, a state run militia.
Oxhorn when people say online your videos are lacking (you didn't show us ____ in 3rd person), they are just doing so you make themselves feel better. Your Videos are Fun and entertaining to watch no matter how you chose to make them. Please keep making them how you want to and not how others tell you. After all, it is your Channel and should be enjoyable for you to make as well. If someone says they don't like how you did something in a vid. Tuff, they can go elsewhere or make Videos themselves. Your videos are always the high point in my day when watching UA-cam. Thank you so much for continuing making fallout my favorite game. :D :D :D
my nitpick is that that flag on the minute men paint job is not lore friendly. In fallout the us separated into 13 commonwealths, so the flag had 13 stars in a circular pattern, like in the lonesome road DLC
Well canonically the armor paints only come from the Sole Survivor, who was a soldier (or married to a soldier) and probably would have a greater attachment to the American Flag. Also it's nitpicky, but the rank insignia is set for the BoS paint and doesn't have alternatives for other Player Ranks (or for NPC ranks if they were made to spawn with the armor paint scheme) It has the Knight Captain insignia even though the player (unmodded) is an Initiate, then a Knight, then a Paladin, then a Sentinel, but never a Knight-Captain (BPAO adds ranks in between and power armor paints to match, and another mod lets you fight Maxson and become Elder)
Airman mckellar I agree with you and idk if it's me because I am autistic as fuck but I just purchased £10 (I am a PC user and I am sorry I betrayed everything I hold dear to me) but these armours something a bit different from what I have in my small arsenal of armour mods and me I like settlements and I like my settlers to be hella diverse so I just bought this and a few other things I kinda liked simply for that to add a bit to my immersion. Please don't crucify me😞😂😂
I have to disagree. Questbased Creations like the tunnel snakes are pretty good just because they add cool content (at least that is what I hope for future creations) Faction armor added by the cc on the other hand is pretty good. Most of the faction armor I have seen on nexus (and cough loverslab cough) was pretty bad and not even close to the cc content and as far as I'm aware I have not seen that many (good) weapon paint mods. Stuff like the Arcade or Donut thingy are great on the other hand because they are just something a little more out of the box. And for pip-boy (and, I guess, power armor) paints there are 2 different types. 1. Cool additions like the nuca cola quantum pb 2. Useless ***** like the onix thing So imo the cc is justified as long as it delivers unique content that is especially not the last type of creations I mentioned. (Hope that was in a sufficiently understandable english)
Hey Oxhorn, loved the graphics for your merch! Also I think your idea for the Ally waysign is a great idea! I didn't like plastering the lantern all over and I couldnt believe I didn't think of that.
Yes the Minuteman paintjob is also the one I am looking for, but I am not shure if I shouldn't wait, maybe we get it free, like so many others paintschemes.
I love these armor paint schemes. In my game, however, the right leg armor piece (of combat armor; I haven't tried any others) does not get the paint option. All the other armor parts take paint just fine. Do you think some mod I'm using is interfering with that?
It could be that the wolf on the knees is an Ode to the wolf armor in Skyrim. There are a little Easter eggs hidden like that it might not be anything I don't know either honestly
You are nitpicking in railroad candle thing. If you finish the game with the railroad as the top faction, there is no need to keep their presence secret - they are all over the commonwealth, diamond city and military checkpoints. Because the game makes these paints available, doesn't mean that the player has to use them from the start - that's the player's "fault". My problem with all these power armor-weapons-armor skins is that there are available from the beginning. The player should be able to use them after at least they first meet a member of the faction - or after killing a gunner for enemy ones - and not just after they exit the vault.
You make a great point!
Oxhorn #WannaSprite
Michail Zorzos It’s true that they shouldn’t be available from the start, but the problem with the Railroad still stands. Until you destroy the Institute, they are supposed to be hidden. I honestly don’t feel like the paint scheme would even warrant existing if you had to finish the main storyline to unlock it, but it really wouldn’t work at any point before then. Even as a free mod, I doubt anyone would ever bother with it if they had to wait until it was appropriate.
Michail Zorzos good point
I mean I agree with you it's like some of the faction based settlement items but at the same time most people have played through the game and might pretend they found a piece of that factions armour and decided hey let's join them or some shit like that but i some what agree with you
The old world flag on the Minutemen armor and weapons is in reference to the original Minutemen in the 1700s. Preston even references this during the long walk to sanctuary as they are passing the statue.
While they are not rebuilding the ideals of America as it was just before the war, they’re still rebuilding America, just built upon the ideals that it SHOULD have been built upon.
Chris Sanderson The Minutemen armor would have still Looked better with more Minutemen logos instead of the flags on the shoulders and synth helmet. Alternatively for me I would probably use the sturdy combat arms seeing as they arent painted with flags
Lone Stoner True. I’m not saying the flags look great by any means, but they’re not out of place to me. The rest of the combat armor looks amazing.
The flag, by the way, is the real world 50-star flag, not the one from Fallout.
@Viktor Samoja Are you dumb? the Gadsden flag was never an official flag. the stars and stripes was the flag during the revolution. It was the Betsy Ross flag.
I think it’s even possible that they could reform the United States of America
I always justified the old world flag on minuteman things being that it was a personal touch by the sole survivor.
Sir Greyscale I misread your comment, and now I see your point.
"Who are you, that do not know your history?"
Maybe the SS specifically went with the old flag in this case as it was the flag America used before it became corrupted, symbolizing Freedom and Liberty without the twisted corporate society of Fallout's pre-war America.
Maybe it’s from Concord, where you meet Preston the last of the minutemen. There’s the star spangled flag in there or in paintings at least?
Jolly Jester wut?
Those "arrows" on the BOS armor are probably meant to be "chevrons" (the indicators of rank)
No there are arrows as well, I'm using sturdy synth atm. Likely meaning "this side down"
yeah, on the shoulder arrows on the combat armor does look like chevrons to me as well.
Oxhorn, I believe the "arrows" you pointed out are Brotherhood rank insignia. You find similar markings on Brotherhood power armor paint schemes, even the unmodded T-60 Brotherhood power armor.
DILLIGAF Bubba I think that it's the Knight-Captain insignia on the shoulders
They remind me of the Air Force chevrons for enlisted ranks.
warren baker I always thought the knight ranks always looked like a large chevron with the U.S insignia for a chevron for sergeant and two bars for captain
The strange thing, however, is that the Sentinel, General and Elder insignias look like British 2nd Lieutenant, Lieutenant and Captain insignias respectively, but the Brotherhood was formed by an American
That doesn't explain why there are arrows on the Institute armor, though.
The paint schemes are okay, but faction specifically themed armor would have been preferable.
How exactly do you mean. Like how the Brotherhood has their Scribe armors and the Institute has the Courser armor? Each of the factions already has such unique armors available to them that it would kind of redundant would it not?
Each faction already has trademark uniforms and armor. BOS use their uniforms and combat armor. Institute has the white synth outfit and their porcelain armor. Railroad uses armored coats.
The Minutemen have uniforms but no trademark armor. That said, it sort of makes sense for them just to scavenge the wasteland and use whatever they can loot from raider and gunner corpses. That's why I particularly like the Minutemen faction paint from this CC update. The new BOS armor colors looks much better than the vanilla BOS armor colors as well.
+Joshua B Not for PS4 users. Most people who care about anything released by CC are probably console users. That said, there's also a segment of players that care about CC content because they might want to play without achievements disabled.
Cough cough ncr cough cough
can't they just make a weapon holster feature
Ha. Hahaha. "Free." HAH. Bethesda doesn't know what 'Free' or 'DLC' even means anymore. Why do work when they can have Modders do it instead, then profit off of it themselves?
Yeah makes sense, they can focus on actually games.
DrIvanRadosivic Classic leveling system would make it all come together.
No! Your gun must always be pointed at the person your talking to! :)
Jolly Jester there's literally free dlc in this very update
The wolves on the BoS paint may be a failed reference to the Lyons' Pryde
I hope for the creator that it isn't.
i dont think it can be a referance to lyons pride because in the present day noone in the brotherhood follows lyons ideals on account of elder maxon restoring the brotherhood to the outcasts ideals.
"In fact it's so short, we don't have time for the intro!" *cue sped up and distorted intro* I love your comedic touch! It definitely adds a lot to your videos and commentary!
The detail on these is more towards purchasable quality now- I like them. I don’t feel bad buying them.
Also get most of them free along with the other paints for the weapons and power armour since they go on on sale periodically
On the BoS scheme: the "arrows" are most likely rank insignia, appearing as a stylized NCO Rank (Sergeant and up). Probably Staff Sergeant or Sergeant First Class, model dependant
Rank insignia would be the stacked chevrons - vertical and/or horizontal. There's also actual arrows, and they are different enough that they don't appear to be related (as well as both being shown in different places on a single set of armour.) You can see both on the same chestpiece at 2:58 - but I'm guess they're purely aesthetic and not actually significant.
aussiebloke609
The stacked chevrons on the arm pieces are likely rank insignia, whilst the smaller arrows are probably fluff bits
That's what I was thinking. especially on the shoulders, where you'd expect rank insignia to be relatively large and visible.
There are also the arrows on the Institute piece, further suggesting most of them are just aesthetic fluff.
The wolves are the same wolves that House Stark uses on their sigil in game of thrones
I think it is a unit thing
I love the way you say 'white' with a gutteral 'h' added to it.
Yeah I notice that too lol
-Watching one ox video.
-Gets a notification for another.
-*N-nani?*
*He's undead, jim.*
The arrows are brotherhood ranks. They feature as well on bos power armor
Faction paint? Really?
"Here's a paid mod version of something you've been able to get off the Nexus since a week after Fallout 4 launched. But it's totally not a paid mod, it's a 'mini DLC.'"
The creation club is for people who want to mod, but see your point
Daja_Blue
They can mod, with Nexus. You have no point here.
Chip - Maybe. But you’ll never know until they respond.
Except there is no nexus on ps4 and you can still download it while still having the ability to earn trophies. Just my POV
When oxhorn says that he is ignorant of fallout lore...
@Oxhorn, the wolves on the BOS armor are a nod to the Wolf Armor from Kvatch in Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
@Oxhorn the candle logo for the railroad is meant to be “a light to shine the way” in two ways, the Old North Church is where the lanterns were placed to mark “one if by land, two of by sea” and also their name harkens back to the American Underground Railroad, which operated by night, so a lantern would be the logo for it, hence why Bethesda and mod authors would use candles and lanterns all over the place on armor and weapon skins
what mod did you use to be able to see the armors? every time I'm in a workbench it's a bright green color all around the object.
Oxhorn, I think the US flag is more a representation of the ideals the minutemen follow pre revolutionary war. As you find Preston holed up in the museum of freedom. He takes a moment to admire the the minuteman statue outside Sanctuary. The old stronghold of the minutemen is Fort Independence. Even the Tricorn hat, the Generals uniform, prestons trench coat, and minuteman uniform is modeled after colonial army/militia uniforms. Which makes more sense as to why they use the US flag, but not the enclave flag. The blue minuteman flag is closer to a regiment flag. Just my two cents.
No thanks, Bethesda. Maybe next time.
skatimmy737 Exactly hate bonnet and since I'm a console owner it does take up memory space I don't even uses This shit but I have to have it
Does the "S" stand for "sarcasm"? :P Seriously though, Fallout 4/Skyrim players actually do show Bethesda what they want from them with their dollars (or lack thereof). True, I doubt anyone from Bethesda will see my comment and I am only one out of millions of Fallout 4 players. But I at least hope to mirror what other disenfranchised fans of this series feel when they see content and business models like this. And, as a community, we really do influence what companies do, for better or worse. As I said above, I hope CC produces something in the future that interests me. That doesn't mean you can't enjoy it. Your fun is as good as mine.
It's funny, I feel as if I could have summed up this point of view in two short sentences. How's that for sarcasm? ;)
The most civilized Creation Club hater here
Thanks but I don't hate CC, not really. I just wish Bethesda would return to rising above the bad habits of the gaming industry and show more pride for their own lore.
They should have a creation club that allows you to paint unpaintable items such as the yellow flight helmet and make it say that beautiful Minuteman blue seen in this video. Perhaps have it as a Minuteman skin with the logo. Yeah, I would like that
Yeah the faction armour paintjobs look good, but again they just feel like something that allready should've been part of the game, and I wouldnt buy them
Well I'm sure they'll go on sale for free at some point. The weapon skins, power armor skins and pipboy skins go on sale for free periodically. I have all of the power armor skins and pipboy skins (minus chrome) and some of the weapon skins and I didn't pay a cent. I got the Minuteman paint armor scheme with my free 100 CC credits because I didn't want to wait.
Matthew Hilliker Oh ok cool, althought I dont fallout 4 yet so I wont be waiting on fhe edge of my seat for it
thats why i frequently check the creation club.its so i can see if anythins new because sometimes new thing are free for a little bit like transdogrifier or different pip boy skins
Ehh you can get them free most times it’s how I got them all
The "arrows" on the BOS armor are the ranks. The wolf insignias with a dagger might represent a special division or more likely a special op division. In real life the upside down dagger can be seen with the USAF Spec ops command(just missing the wings). So cross referencing and taken in the characteristics of wolves.
This special division is comprised of air commandos, specializing in search & destroy missions as well as SAR(search and rescue) by dropping out of aircrafts. Symbolizing the wolves, they work and hunt in packs. They will not stop until their objective is complete. They are train in land nav, HALO(high altitude low opening) jumps, JTAC(joint terminal attack controller) ie direct precision air strikes, combat dive, special tactics, adv medical training, SERE(survival, evasion, resistance, escape), counter intel, psych ops., adv weaponry, and special warfare.
Handpicked by the Elder himself from unique candidates who are the best in their squad or have the drive to become one. They will go through rigorous training courses all of which will take 3 years to complete. Each course is pass or fail, no in between. The instructors or cadres are battle hardened veterans who will make sure to test/push each candidates' limits and beyond. In case you're curious the washout rate is 90%, it is tough. But if you made it then you are the best that the BOS has to offer. Join today!
About the Wolf and Dagger thing;
- Dagger tattoos were common among Army and Marines soldier from WWII. The dagger symbolizes danger, ferocity and death. (Also, having a dagger tattoo meant for them "quickness".)
-And Wolf tattoos are often used to symbolize determination, ruthlessness, ferocity, as well as "family", in the way of having "brothers" and "sisters" (as in an army //BoS) and defending eachother as a pack.
So I guess this is a way to describe the Brotherhood as a pack of soldiers that are determined to get what they want, any ways possible (death, ferocity, etc..).
I think it's neat. I can perfectly picture the Brotherhood having that kinda symbol, thinking it's badass and basically saying "Don't mess with us".
2 vids In one day god bless u oxhorn
Minutemen Paint scheme for the Combat armor and the Synth armor look great, should've been a base game thing imho.
As much as I love the Minutemen, I love putting my men in leather armor that's been tinted black the most. It looks protected, and still militia like at the same time. Plus, who doesn't like black armor?
As a bonus, using it on the combat or metal armor makes it look like your guard post settlers belong there.
the arrows are basically the BoS ranks you'll notice them on the forearm of the BoS power armor as well
To be honest oxhorn, I only come to you for fallout content because you’re not some over the top UA-camr who is too energetic, you’re a chill guy who just enjoys the game and can have a chill video that honestly entertains me more and any UA-camr that I watch for info about a game
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As for the Old world flag being used by the Minute men paint job, I imagine that finding reference of the the original flag used by the founding Fathers, would be almost impossible in mess that is the wasteland, so the minute men, just used what they could easily find a reference for.
I believe the arrows on the BOS paint scheme are rank indicators.
I love how these things go on a big sale just a week after release. Lol, what a success.
I just wished the paint was added to that Faction level list
Isn't "By the people, for the people" an interplay reference, as they used something similar for their motto?
No.. its a reference to American history. The phrase was used by Lincoln in the Gettysburg address
And in Fallout that particular saying is already in use by Hancock the mayor of Goodnighbor. Useing it again for the Minutemen is an established game lore brake for me. So I'm good the CC fails again.
the minutemen based their ideals on the militia during the american revolution. hancock based his persona on a member of the founding fathers. it isn't hard to believe that both learned about a particular phrase from american history and decided to use it.
Honestly, I know fuck all about American history apart from the fact Washington had wooden teeth and some stupid ass wig
^ funny enough he didn't even have wooden teeth lol kinda weird you'd play these games without a fundamental grasp of American history considering how dependent on it the entire series is lol
First, in the Brotherhood the animals used to be. The elder lions had a lion
and secondly, not all of it is a arrows, there are some sheld's that are used in the Brotherhood as mark the officer rank, and the other arrows are there because the firearms arrows are pointed in the direction of the shot and in the armor they are pointing on the palms and feet
The arrows means how you have to put them on each part of your body like the chestplate arrow pointing down meaning wearing it downward and the arms upward
I personally really adore these new paint jobs, the Minutemen and Brotherhood paintjobs especially, as it allows me in my unmodded playthroughs to truly represent my faction of choice (usually Minutemen and occasionally Brotherhood), and the colors really really pop. My only critique on them is that when upgrading the Armor pieces one has to repaint the armor so as to have the paint appear.
I've personally have loved the Creation Club thus far, I have everything but the Doom armor, but I do hope that now that we have these faction skins that we will begin seeing more and more weapon/ armor sets that get integrated into the level and spawn lists, the Handmade Shotgun was a good example of this with how each of it's legendary effects gave the weapon a unique skin, as well as more Dungeon like content ala the Tunnel Snakes Rule addon.
Those faction paint jobs look so good.
I believe those arrows are chevrons, possibly indicating rank or seniority.
Twice in the same day! Thank you so much for all of your amazing content
The arrows are actually rank markings, in the Brotherhood of steel you have a shield and two marks to denote an NCO.
The arrows on the Brotherhood of Steel Armor indicate how to equip them in the proper way. The torse pieces have arrows pointing down, because you slide them on from above and it tells you which way is right side up. The arm pieces have up arrows, indicating they are to be slid on upwards and which side is right side up. Similar arrows are painted on laser weapons, instructing the user in the proper direction the parts should be facing. While the wolf logos on the metal armor have no tie in to BOS lore that I am aware of, it wouldn't be the first time the Brotherhood used animal symbolism because the Capitol Wasteland BOS was pretty big on the Lyons Pride as an elite BOS unit. While Lyons might have been a play on the Elder and Sentinels's last name, the Pride connects the association of a group of powerful lions, while also getting across how much respect and faith the Elder had in this group.
Oxhorn, the "wolf and dagger" symbol on the knees at the brotherhood paint job could be an emblem of a regiment or platoon. Those are often used in militaries.
How often do they change the deals and such?
Oxhorn The Wolf with the dagger is a preference to Skyrim
The arrows on the brotherhood passing scheme is rank markings, and the candles are to symbolise the light in the darkness
A possible reasoning for the OLD world logo could be that the minutemen decided that they saw the merging into the 13 commonwealths as a bad idea and want to bring back the fifty states instead.
for the tactical arrows, id say it is a kind of status indicator like lieutenant etc
Point of the candles on the the railroad paint is a representation of lighting the way for escape sense
2:04 ranks? Knight, Paladin, Sentinel, Elder, ?scribe?, or ?initiates?.
"maybe I'm just ignorant of the fallout lore"
Impossible
Yea, he's not ignorant of lore, just forgetful like how he said how he doesn't remember any animals being related to the bos even though fallout 3 exists (if you beat the game you'll know what i mean)
Impossible maybe the archives aren’t complete
Two videos in one day, Ox ?! You are Godlike, sir.
The arrows on the BoS armor could be rank badges , at least the ones on the pauldrons. The lion/wolf thing could be a reference to the Lyon’s Pride. For the Minutemen, I think the armor has the Old World Flag because more than likely they’ve never seen the Old Glory or the Betsy Ross. It could also be a reference to the fact that the Old World Flag looks like the Betsy Ross Flag.
About what you said about the Wolf symbol on the Brotherhood paint; I believe that it symbolizes a lone wolf or a Sole Survivor because you spend a large portion of the game more or less on your own with only one companion.
And the part you said about the American flag on the Minutemen paint, may not necessarily represent America throughout time as a whole, but what the flag was meant to represent in the beginning of the founding of The United States. Freedom which is arguably quite similar to what Preston says the Minutemen are about: "The people of the Commonwealth banding together to protect ourselves and decide our own future."
I wish they did the minutemen logo on the generals armor. That would be legit.
The Minuteman one is my second favorite Brotherhood of Steel is my first someone should tell him about the Minutemen Preston is a raider Theory
No Preston's not a raider. It's been proven in the fallout book that Bethesda wrote themselves.
Damien Demers never heard of it, what is it?
2:54 you can see arrows on the brotherhood of steel Power Armor, so I think the creator was going for a style like that to make it look more like it belongs to the brotherhood
Should I get the brotherhood or minutemen please help me?
The arrows are also on the vanilla power armor brotherhood of steel paint
The bos arrows are the rank (paladin, knight ect) you can find it on the power armour
I'm not sure about the others though
Gotta love that 2 for 1 Oxhorn special
I think the Wolf is Sierra Lyons, Lion Pride
The Synth Armor with the Brotherhood logo looks awesome 😁
Creation Club, such succsess, so much mods to chose from. Hahaha
The animal on the BOS armor could easily be the Lyon's Pride.
Ok can someone please tell me what's the name of oxhorn's power armour faction paint scheme please
The paint on the knees could be similar to how soldiers would paint aircraft, tanks, helmets, etc with logos and the like.
I love the minute men painting, probably my favorite
Yeah same
Some people think the paint jobs are a waste but I really like them, and they give many away for free! I think if you are looking to show off your loyalty to a faction, no better way is these paints. My fav is the military paint job on combat armour and the synth armour with the institute paint
I really love the Nuka Cola skin
I'm thinking the wolf ox noted might be the artist's attempt at a lion, referencing fallout 3's Elder Lyons, Sarah Lyons and the Lyons' Pride of that game's BoS. Might just be a wolf, though :D
After a second look, seems to be clearly not a lion :/. A lion would've been neat tho
WOW THIS HASNT ALREADY BEEN DONE BEFORE AMAZING WORK BETHESDA!
That wolf in the BOS suit. Have you known about Wolf Pack trooppers from Star Wars cw? Commandos wear dark black suits and have wolfs painted in legs
I think that is reason.
The in game minutemen are a reference to the real-life minutemen, so that's who they're inspired by. Hell, you even meet them in concord for the first time which has pretty historical significance for the real minutemen.
They were a militia that made up a quarter of the colonies forces during the revolutionary War. Known for being quick to mobilize and defend their neighbor colonies from threats, hence where the name minutemen comes from.
The revolutionary War also spawned the first iteration of the American flag we know today, with stars and stripes of the original 13 colonies. That's where the flag on the minutemen paint job comes from.
In real-life the minutemen have basically turned into the American national guard still true to their origin, a state run militia.
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I think the wolf on the legs are to represent a wolf pack, which can mean family, which relate to brothers, and you should get the rest
I think for some people these could be useful. I like the paints but I know there's mods doing the same. Still, I don't mind these.
The arrows on the brotherhood piant job sybolizes the virious brotherhood ranks knights,captians, sargents and paladins.
Those arrows on the Brotherhood armor are clearly pointing to the knees.
Hay ox i want to know what do you think i should get. far harbor or nuka world?
The wolf on the knees is from the lions pride back in fallout 3
Pls reply. I downloaded the army paint job but i am not able to paint the legs.
Anand Erdenebat i have the same issue
my nitpick is that that flag on the minute men paint job is not lore friendly. In fallout the us separated into 13 commonwealths, so the flag had 13 stars in a circular pattern, like in the lonesome road DLC
Slade Swanson and they did that in 1969
Pretty sure the arrows for the BOS armor is ranks. They are also on BOS power armor.
Who ever made these paint schemes should make it for the marine armor as well
Holy crap two videos in one day, you’re awesome Ox!
GreenTea, what's wrong?
The arrows on the BOS armour could be to represent ranks like in the military
Well canonically the armor paints only come from the Sole Survivor, who was a soldier (or married to a soldier) and probably would have a greater attachment to the American Flag. Also it's nitpicky, but the rank insignia is set for the BoS paint and doesn't have alternatives for other Player Ranks (or for NPC ranks if they were made to spawn with the armor paint scheme) It has the Knight Captain insignia even though the player (unmodded) is an Initiate, then a Knight, then a Paladin, then a Sentinel, but never a Knight-Captain (BPAO adds ranks in between and power armor paints to match, and another mod lets you fight Maxson and become Elder)
I’m not going to lie I would never spend money on creation club 99 percent of the stuff they add is already in some sort of mod .
Airman mckellar CC is mainly for PS4 players because Sony doesn’t let them have fun
addz777 I figured they deserve some mods
Airman mckellar I agree with you and idk if it's me because I am autistic as fuck but I just purchased £10 (I am a PC user and I am sorry I betrayed everything I hold dear to me) but these armours something a bit different from what I have in my small arsenal of armour mods and me I like settlements and I like my settlers to be hella diverse so I just bought this and a few other things I kinda liked simply for that to add a bit to my immersion. Please don't crucify me😞😂😂
I have to disagree.
Questbased Creations like the tunnel snakes are pretty good just because they add cool content (at least that is what I hope for future creations)
Faction armor added by the cc on the other hand is pretty good. Most of the faction armor I have seen on nexus (and cough loverslab cough) was pretty bad and not even close to the cc content and as far as I'm aware I have not seen that many (good) weapon paint mods.
Stuff like the Arcade or Donut thingy are great on the other hand because they are just something a little more out of the box.
And for pip-boy (and, I guess, power armor) paints there are 2 different types.
1. Cool additions like the nuca cola quantum pb
2. Useless ***** like the onix thing
So imo the cc is justified as long as it delivers unique content that is especially not the last type of creations I mentioned.
(Hope that was in a sufficiently understandable english)
Locky yeah man he’s right it’s okay if you buy them but I think it’s wrong they take most of the credit
Hey Oxhorn, loved the graphics for your merch! Also I think your idea for the Ally waysign is a great idea! I didn't like plastering the lantern all over and I couldnt believe I didn't think of that.
The wolf symbol looks like the house stark banner
Yes the Minuteman paintjob is also the one I am looking for, but I am not shure if I shouldn't wait, maybe we get it free, like so many others paintschemes.
I suspect the next armor paint job set will use all the Camo paintjobs that are currently avaliable for Power armor and Pipboys
I love these armor paint schemes. In my game, however, the right leg armor piece (of combat armor; I haven't tried any others) does not get the paint option. All the other armor parts take paint just fine. Do you think some mod I'm using is interfering with that?
It could be that the wolf on the knees is an Ode to the wolf armor in Skyrim. There are a little Easter eggs hidden like that it might not be anything I don't know either honestly
The leather looks the best except the BOS (I think combat for it). I love that black contrast
Two videos in one day the goat has spoken
Oh yeah btw Ox you missed one thing, that is the fact that you can also see the BoS flag on the collar on the synth armor