What is post-finasteride syndrome? | Peter Attia & Ted Schaeffer
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This clip is from 273 ‒ Prostate health: common problems, cancer prevention, screening, treatment, and more | Ted Schaeffer, M.D., Ph.D.
In this clip, Peter and Ted discuss:
- What causes post-finasteride syndrome?
- The symptoms of post-finasteride syndrome
- Is post-finasteride syndrome reversible
- Why Ted doesn't recommend the use of finasteride
- And more
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Post-Finasteride Syndrome (PFS) deformed and numbed my genitals. Tissue damage in the penis, structural changes, shrivelled, no tactile feeling anymore, inability to get aroused, zero libido and ED. I have been suffering from this torture every single day for years. Nobody believes me. There is no treatment. Thank you doctors for raising awareness, but I'm close to ending it all. I can't cope anymore.
Wow I'm really sorry to hear this. How long has it been? Did you start noticing these symptoms while taking it ? Hopefully in time and with good health habits this will reverse. Praying for that brother
@@Fedor526 developed the symptoms on drug, got better after quitting for couple of weeks, then crashed horribly. It’s been 4 years. It’s not reversing. Thank you for your concern, but the damage is done. What a horrible disgusting drug. I’m only in my thirties and my life is destroyed.
@@afkVahnlook into TRT, some have said it cures them
sorry to hear this man, please stay strong
Tried TRT?
Thank you for bringing attention to this debilitating disease. I suffer since 1.5 years :)
What are your side effects?
@@Kingx90 a vast range of side-effects from sexual to physical to neurological - the most debilitating are the neurological however: Anhedonia, insomnia, trouble concentrating and brain fog, nerve pain in hand and feet, vertigo etc
@@maximilian8339wow, even after stopping? Is it possible this is unrelated to finestride? My doctor says they’ve never had a complaint like this after a decade of being in the field. I hope you find relief sir.
I've been taking 0.5mg (half a pill of 1mg finasteride) 6 days a week for about 5 years. I started around my 27th birthday, and I just turned 33. At 1mg, I felt some side effects (chest tightness, lower libido), but at the same time, I was also dealing with intense stress from being self-conscious about my hair loss and paranoid about side effects. After finding online that the efficacy is roughly the same at a half dosage with fewer side effects, I lowered the dosage. Since then, I have had no noticeable side effects, and my hair is the same with no noticeable hair loss from age 27 (I take photos once a month to track it).
I should note, however, that while the rest of the men on both sides of my family are bald/balding, my 70-year-old father has nearly as much hair as I do. His father (my grandfather) was bald in his 30s, but his father's father (my great-grandfather) had a full head of hair until the day he died! Go figure. If there was a better test to figure out whether or not I was actually losing my hair or if this was my natural "mature" hair pattern like my father's, I'd pay for it.
It's a little tricky for me to determine whether some depression I occasionally feel is due to the drug, my family history, or both. Many male and female members of my family deal with mild depression. In general, I have not noticed any issues with my sex drive or sex life, and if anything, as I got older, it improved alongside my overall confidence, as one would expect.
That said, as I got older, I also became more comfortable with the likely chance that I'd be mostly bald one day. As you can see with both of these guys in the video, being bald does not mean you are not attractive. Some of the most powerful men in the world are bald. Some of the most attractive (as ranked by women) are as well. This is something I came to terms with myself, and it really helped me relax about the inevitable loss of my hair when I stopped taking the drug. Confidence, personality, overall health, and fitness -- and frankly, whether or not you had a good-looking face in the first place -- really are more likely to determine your "attractiveness" than your hair ever will. Some people also look better bald, especially in their 40s onward: The Rock, Jason Statham, Bruce Willis, Vin Diesel, Ed Harris (even looks badass with the donut hair), John Travolta, etc etc.
So you're taking 0.25mg, right?
the sides come usually after stoppage
Any dose ranging from 0.02mg to 1mg or more has the same efficacy and also poses the same risk for sides, and for a crash once stopped as it lowers your DHT serum levels at the same rate. Also the second you stop taking fin all the hair you kept falls out, happened to me within 6-12 months
I took propecia 1mg for ten years. Worst health decision I've ever made. Killed my libido, caused me depression and terrible panic attacks. Now I am dealing with skyrocketing psa . I'm terrified. All that for f'ckng hair. I should have just let it fall out.
finasteride, we can expect side effects to occur. For one, there’s increased GABA activity in the brain with DHT, likely due to DHT metabolites modulating GABA-A receptors (10, 11), which provides an anxiolytic effect (reduced anxiety). DHT may also modify circuitry in the brain by altering the number of excitatory spine synapses in a paracrine manner, which can therefore affect cognitive function (in a positive manner) of the brain (12). It’s been established that the risk of dementia is in fact greater for patients using 5α-reductase inhibitors (13), further demonstrating the need for DHT in the brain for adequate cognitive function and health. In male rats, it has been demonstrated that finasteride inhibits the brains dopaminergic system (involved in the reward system and sense of wellbeing) (14) which may well transfer to humans. It has even been suggested to use testosterone supplementation (note: within physiological levels) to improve cognition in older men, in part due to the neuroprotective and excitatory effects of DHT (12). Put simply, DHT is actually quite important for good mental health. It will reduce feelings of anxiety, improve feelings of wellbeing, and improve cognitive function.
Additionally, progesterone (another important steroid hormone) can be converted to allopregnanolone via 5α-reductase. Allopregnanolone is a potent ligand of the GABA-A receptor, which in normal circumstances will reduce the risk of anxiety, major depression, impulsive aggression, and negative symptoms in schizophrenia (15). So, that’s another thing lost to the use of finasteride.
When you get a hair transplant it is recommended you take finasteride otherwise those grafted hairs can also minimize and fall out. There is also topical finasteride, which limited research suggests has a lower likelihood of side effects.
Most drs won’t do transplant w.out finasteride therapy
Tried topical minoxidil and derma rolling for a full year and never saw any change in my hair. Looked into finasteride a bit, but I didn't like the idea of messing with my hormones, so I just accepted my crown pattern baldness. It sucks, but it is what it is. I look good with my hair buzzed really short thankfully, but man I miss having hair and running my fingers through it and stuff.
I went bald in my late 30s. Hair is just another feature just like your eyes, smile, skin tone and general state of your body. Don't get hung up on your (lack of) hair. Anyone that genuinely cares about you won't be in the least bit bothered. Who gives a siht what anyone else thinks.
You made the right choice. Not worth the risk, which I unfortunately learned from experience. Been off of fin for almost a year now and the sides are still there.
try oral minoxidil
Don't touch Finasteride. If you're going bald, then that is how nature designed you. As hard as it may be you have to accept it. Don't go against nature. It will punish you.
bro u took the right decision....the sides are real....i quit..found this was causing me great depression...like the economic one,,,
I was considering it but this def changed my mind, would love to see more healthier options to keep hair.. currently derma rolling with rosemary oil
Consider yourself extremely lucky and even if you go bald enjoy it by knowing everything about you is still normal
Dermarolling and rosemary oil will not do anything to prevent hair loss. Check out the UA-cam channel Haircafe for the actual science behind this, I believe he has done a commentary on this video specifically too. I don't usually leave comments but yours is only 2 months old and I want to get this information to you since time is precious in hair loss and preventing any further loss is the most important thing.
I hope you are not convinced by this fearmongering and start finasteride and keep your hair.
eucapil my friend, its a topical anti androgen. its not so potent but its the only one which is hydrophobic, that means as soon as it touches liquid(your blood) it dissolves with no trace or any function. I can highly recommend it to fight hairloss as healthy as possible.
Yeah dema rolling and rosemary oil is a waste of time. You need to get on finasteride and minoxidil sooner rather than later. The only real side effect that can be proven lasts forever on finasteride is a thick full head of hair. Go check out @haircafe’s youtube channel if you want to be educated on the facts and actual studies done on finasteride. Don’t listen to this made up, fear mongering bullshit
Dont we have long term studies on finasteride usinf? Like the one from Japan that focused on 10 year usage of fin? Dont we have clinical trials? Dont we have approval of FDA? Would you provide us with decent studies where PFS was proved? (randomized control trials, metanalysis or systemic reviews?)
They can’t provide you with proof because it doesn’t exist. People will tell you advil gave them persistent horrible side effects also.
finasteride, we can expect side effects to occur. For one, there’s increased GABA activity in the brain with DHT, likely due to DHT metabolites modulating GABA-A receptors (10, 11), which provides an anxiolytic effect (reduced anxiety). DHT may also modify circuitry in the brain by altering the number of excitatory spine synapses in a paracrine manner, which can therefore affect cognitive function (in a positive manner) of the brain (12). It’s been established that the risk of dementia is in fact greater for patients using 5α-reductase inhibitors (13), further demonstrating the need for DHT in the brain for adequate cognitive function and health. In male rats, it has been demonstrated that finasteride inhibits the brains dopaminergic system (involved in the reward system and sense of wellbeing) (14) which may well transfer to humans. It has even been suggested to use testosterone supplementation (note: within physiological levels) to improve cognition in older men, in part due to the neuroprotective and excitatory effects of DHT (12). Put simply, DHT is actually quite important for good mental health. It will reduce feelings of anxiety, improve feelings of wellbeing, and improve cognitive function.
Additionally, progesterone (another important steroid hormone) can be converted to allopregnanolone via 5α-reductase. Allopregnanolone is a potent ligand of the GABA-A receptor, which in normal circumstances will reduce the risk of anxiety, major depression, impulsive aggression, and negative symptoms in schizophrenia (15). So, that’s another thing lost to the use of finasteride.
This is theoretical and unproven information at best. 1mg finasteride a day lowers dht levels by about %70. Not %100. Dht concentration is found in tissues such as the scalp, skin, and prostate. There is no clinical evidence to suggest that finasteride has any impact on cognitive function in humans. Given the fact that a lot of people will experience depression at some point in their lives anyway, theres no evidence to suggest that finasteride causes an increase over baseline.
Supposedly finasteride can induce epigenetic changes that can lead to the lasting effects in some.
Which study did you read that in?
@@gustavalexander8676 I cant remember the name of the researchers. Leo and longevity used to reference it here and there. Go check his vids
@@gustavalexander8676the studies are there and numerous!
@@gustavalexander8676there’s literally tons of studies that have shown this, like basically any one that you look up
It does. It is a major endocrine disrupter and undoubtedly it modifies the Androgen Receptor and causes extreme overexpression in tissues dense with 5 alpha reductase. The androgen receptor is directly involved in the genome and gene regulation specifically in androgen related genes and 5-alpha reductase such as SRD5A2. Modifications to the AR can result in gene silencing and multiple cascades involving metabolic pathway signaling and cellular response such as oxidative stress involving endoplasmic reticulum induced apoptosis and even individual gene changes regarding homeostatic mechanisms and cancer progression
I'm in my 40s and still have all my hair, I was considering finasteride as I want my hair to stay how it is. But this has helped me make up my mind, I won't go on it. I'm also on zero medications, and I'd actually rather hold on to that, than hair.
It's not worth messing with it especially if your hair is good. I started using it when I was 30 as a preventative even though my hair was still good. Had bad side effects. Stopped it and started it three different times over five years. Last time I stopped, as I put the tiny crumb of a pill in my mouth my body felt like it was rejecting it. No hair is worth the side effects. It's not just libido but your entire masculine drive people are risking. Ten years later hair is still pretty decent and wish I never bothered with it. Minoxidil has seemed to maintain hair well but I wouldn't bother with that either if your hair still looks good since you can't stop taking it.
I’m a pharmacist with PFS- believe me when I say don’t take Rx meds unless you absolutely have to. They all come with unnecessary risks and finasteride is absolutely one of the riskiest
@@PriusTurbothe only hormone responsible for “masculine drive” in adult males is testosterone. Dht plays almost no role in adults except give you acne, hairloss, and prostate cancer.
You should get in finasteride then and listen to your doctor instead of watching a youtube video. Inform yourself on the actual research and safety profile of the drug instead of listen to baseless, bogus anecdotal claims by people on the internet.
Please address topical finasteride and oral minoxidil
i’ve been on 0.5mg for about seven years and actually have increased libido, along with a thick head of hair. i’ve always wondered why so many people losing hair talk about this as the reason why they don’t start hair recovery, but personally have never felt any symptoms. good luck to all and i hope you won’t let fear control your life ❤
Finasteride treatment impairs biosynthesis and function of neurosteroids, which are critical regulators of central (CNS) as well as peripheral nervous system functions and modulate a host of neurotransmitter receptors, such as gamma amino butyric acid receptors. Thus, finasteride-induced neuroendocrine disruption of biosynthesis of critical signaling molecules results in pathophysiological states, which contribute to inhibition of biochemical pathways responsible for a host of physiological functions, ranging from sexual activity, mood, and cognition. In addition, finasteride-induced epigenetic changes in gene expression, including upregulation of androgen receptors (AR), increased histone acetylation, and methylation results in undesirable biological outcomes such as impairment of dopaminergic signaling and modulation of other neurotransmitter receptors, may be the underlying mechanism causing persistent or permanent adverse effects, manifested in anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation.
It's not a matter of if it's going to happen to you it's WHEN
@@_brandonkeith-te5ojthe information you are regurgitating here is from a rat study where they were mega dosed with finasteride. Finasteride also affects rats differently than humans. Better luck next time. Take your fear mongering somewhere else and just accept that you are bald and chose not to doing anything about it because you are too scared.
I was told with a hair transplant you still have to take finasteride to keep the new hair from falling out?
Not quite. The transplanted hair will be fine. But if the patient's hair loss isn't treated, it will continue to progress in the non-transplanted areas. Which is to say that if the transplant was done to the hairline, the hair behind the hairline would continue to receed, and look quite ridiculous. Suffice to say, this guy doesn't know what he's talking about suggesting that a transplant is an alternative to finasteride.
I heard those hair transplants only last so long. (Like dental crowns.)
True finasteride even improves the quality of the hair on your donor area. Thats why they tell you take finasteride 6 months to a year before your transplant. As well as that it will prevent further hair loss.
No you don't, the transplanted hairs are immune. But you will probably need multiple transplants because of the hairs behind the transplanted ones fall out too sooner or later.
@@kenpe1455 that is a lie. They are resistant, but not immune. DHT will still damage them over time, it will just take longer.
Peter, would you comment on using Minoxidil oral instead of Finasteride?
DO NOT use oral minoxidil. It completely messes with your heart and can have lethal side effects. finasteride can't kill you, oral minoxidil can
Don’t. Oral minoidil is dangerous for your heart over time. Stick with topical as it is fda approved to treat hairloss along with finasteride.
Please warch more plates more dates Derick on this topic. He explains clearly that if in doubt,you can do a hormanal blood work to assertain the levels of your SHBG, DHT, total testesterone, free testesterone, estradiol and DHA to eatablsih if you are a good candidate. Furthermoore, sone men could have gene polymorohism or gene defect that expresses more on the estradiol receptors therefore, a gene test is also necesaary.
While this probably isn’t a bad idea, its not really needed. Even people who claim to have persistent side effects after stopping the drug have normal lab results. Proving that their symptoms are psychosomatic.
26 yrs ago I was on this and It took me about a month and a half to make the connection and although I partially reversed the effects by quitting, it never 100% came back. My estimation is the it came back about 70% of normal. I thought it was just me until I began to hear rumblings a couple years ago. I felt a bit vindicated.
Funny thing is I saw the same but lesser effect with tea tree oil shampoo.
if you're sensitive to something like tea tree oil you must avoid anti androgenics for ever (well maybe casual use its not bad, but i mean sustained use). That includes peppermint, curcumin, piperine, etc etc. Sounds crazy ik
sounds like schizophrenia.
@@shranks6560Yeah everything does until it happens to you.
@@shranks6560sounds like you’re in denial. Irs funny you guys blame mental illness than a drug than a drug that actually has biological and chemical reactions in the body. Irs ridiculous
@@Yiahi65 bro he said tea tree shampoo made him hear things. how dense can you be. 🤣
Good one
Every single day I wish I had a time machine to go back 4 years before i decided to take this. It is the only thing in my life that I would do anything to take back and change. and I will never be afforded that.
Same here
what's your side effects bro? how long did it take to get the side effects ? mine is super depression, mood sensitivity to negativity...total discouragement..ofc I get good after 1 day not taking it...been taking 9 months
@@batmanbillionsI took it for 2.5 years and I had zero side effects until about 1.5 years into it and one day my penis and pelvic floor became numb and I developed all PFS symptoms, anhedonia, pleasureless orgasms, ED, abnormal ejaculation, severe insomnia, my labs were all over the place. Elevated estrogen still, my HPA and HGA axes were all messed up for months after I quit, my LH and FSH were abnormal, never was depressed in my life and developed panic disorder and pretty severe depression. I thought I literally had suffered a sacral nerve injury in my spine because my genitals became so numb I had no idea the drug could produce all these insane, disparate side effects and all so horrible. I kept taking it cus I had honestly never heard of PFS and I didn’t know what was wrong with me until I found articles about it a year and a half later. I even had research this drug before starting it and I maybe saw propecia help but never the term PFS and of course the doctor through Keeps said only 1.8% of people get side effects and they go away with cessation of the drug. Then I find out this syndrome is what caused all of this for me that it’s in fact permanent. I still deal with all the same symptoms a year after being off of it. I also developed bone demineralization from the androgen deprivation because my DHT was reduced to literally about zero the entire time.
@@batmanbillionswhy haven’t you stopped taking it? Symptoms seem to improve after a few years. As for a referral to neurology to validate your symptoms.
@@user-rc8zv9em4s i quit cold turkey bro...feeling well now, hoping mind energy will comeback, and hoping sides will never come...wish u all recovery pray for me too...
Let's assume 10%? Holy hell that would be massive, no way it would go under the radar with such statistics O.o
You don’t know big Pharma then. SSRI’s are at least 10 percent and they’re still. Selling like wildfire
Probably much higher. Sadly most people don't even know what finasteride does, let alone it affects libido or what dht is.
It is massive. And probably around 10% but with no clinical diagnostic biomarker or clear acceptance by the medical profession. It goes ignored and indeed under the radar. Dismissed by clinicians as other conditions.
@@danf2644 literally bro you see it on every media platform they just dismiss pfs people. It would not get attention if it wasn’t significant
@@Yiahi65 I totally agree. I am currently experiencing it really badly.
I’m taking 5mg finasteride for 2 months for
Prostrate problems I’m on day 36 of 60 .. my libido is down and my erections weak … how many time the side effects are going away after u ended my treatment?
You took a big dose(5mg for prostate) which build up a lot of finasteride in your tissues. Expect at least 1 month before it returns to normal. It might even take 2 months. But don't worry, you will be fine.
@@milenavidmar2733 thanks … this Finasteride is poison ☠️ I wonder is post finasteride syndrome is 100% real
I’ve seen on average that symptoms improve 2 to 3 years after cessation. After your doctor for a referral to neurology. It seems to take a long time. How are you?
You will be fine. Consult your doctor with any problems you have. Don’t go on the internet and listen to idiots.
How do you treat post finasteride syndrome?
Nothing but time and a lot of hope, and prayer… which tend to dwindle when that time gets longer and longer and you see no changes. Basically luck of the draw
It doesn’t exist so as soon as you go and see a doctor about getting treated for depression the better.
@@bignickenergy2042 right it’s just depression
@@pmoore7813 it usually is. People don’t give it enough credit. Imagine being made to believe that its hopeless and theres no “cure” for you. If they are experiencing anything its constant depression and dread. Its crazy how much that can take a toll on your libido, mood, ect
Thank for bringing light to this. I am currently experiencing this and it is horrendous after taking it for two years.
how long have you been experiencing it?
14 months
@@danf2644 i assume you're visiting a doctor freddi because of this, right?
@@danf2644what are you experiencing?
bro been on it straight 9 months....its time to say goodbye...before that I used 6 months+3 months as well....totally messed up hormones....the most important thing is MIND messup..fk em saying it has no sides...it was all business at the end...totally sad..hope we all recover
Wow, this is an important topic for me. As I sit here trying to recover from an Aquablation procedure for BPH, the comments about HDT testosterone levels really hit home. I risked this procedure because I wanted to get off the dutasteride (Avodart) drug. It has worked well for years, but all of a sudden my libido suddenly dropped off. I’ve maintained good T levels through my life, but taking a drug designed to mitigate certain levels to reduce prostrate size became a concern. I’m hoping that the Aquablation works as advertised and that I can stop taking the T reducing drug. And with that, my sudden ED problems will go away. I’m 63 yrs old but very fit and active. Just trying to extend my vitality to the maximum through good health and science.
If a PDE5 isn’t beneficial, look into trimix. It works on demand in less than 10 minutes.
Youre too old you should be on trt
If drug as potent as avodart was working fine for “years” like you said then your side effects are highly likely cause by something else.
Also at your age ED is more common. And dutasteride doesn’t lower Testosterone levels it actually raises it. You should get checked out for other possible causes.
Key moment in this video: Peter Attia MD asks "does the PSA level come back after suppresion of Finasteride?" Ted Schaeffer answers "the PSA will rise" and then changes the contexto of the question..
Yeah because theres no evidence that there is any lasting effect on hormone levels. Quite the opposite in fact.
I'm a woman, I've been taking finasteride on and off for almost 10 years, had no side effects. Are there any studies on this or is this just anecdotal?
There’s studies on this, also you’re sharing your anecdotal experience which isn’t the same as everyone else and not everyone has a good experience but no everyone has a bad one, it’s a nuance problem of the drug
I was asking a question. Also I'm not a doctor, so clearly my comment is anecdotal. A comment, not a statement. If you are a doctor, you should cite the hell out of the claim you make on a popular podcast.@@JZGreengo
Women never get any side effects from anything hormonal ever it seems like.. aside from anabolic steroids. But for the most part if seems like all hormonal changes that arnt natural or from illness just boosts positive traits..
@@JZGreengo then show us the study that says 10% of finasteride uses experience this syndrome.
@@JZGreengo Had to edit out the whole "10% of finasteride users experience pfs" huh? Someone called you out for your false claims, but you still wont provide a link to this "study"? No wonder people think PFS is total BS. You people have no standard of proof at all ...
You guys should look into the studies of 5ar inhibitor inhibition use, there was one study where 18,000 men were tested and there was almost no proof that sexual side effects even exist. But judging by this comment section all 22k viewers have pfs.
let me guess, were these studies done by Merck? where did the funding come from? do the authors have any admitted or not admitted ties to marketed hairloss products? that is your answer much more so than what their data states, which has been fully evidenced through the blatantly untrue "1.8%" get sides statistic that Merck is somehow still allowed to use in the drug insert. the FAERS database speaks for itself. It is very easy to publish findings with low side effect ratios when you don't account for or follow up with patients who drop out of the studies due to developing unbearable sides, much less the numbers of those in which sides never go away.
lmao I agree.
@@WDnation9 .. No. The study was not funded by Merck. You want a link? I have an inkling you wont read it because it doesnt reinforce your prexisting beliefs, but if you say otherwise i'll actually bother linking it. You just seem very invested in believing in something despite the lack of clinical proof.
How do you defend - from an academic standpoint - the notion of presuming the existence of a ""syndrome"" when said syndrome has not been clinically documented? Why is it so difficult for people to accept the scientific method? And no, being an anxious 20-something male scouring pro-PFS forums isn't science.
@@WDnation9lol so your evidence is that its a “giant big pharma conspiracy”?😂 there are plenty of follow up studies on finasteride for safety and efficacy. The FARES data bade? Lmao you mean the data base where literally anybody can go and make an unfounded claim about any medication giving them side effects with no actual proof?😂 i can go on there right now and say advil made my nipples shrivel and fall off and it will be counted. Please seek actual medical help if you need it and stop regurgitating absolute bs conspiracy theories.
@peterattiamd Can you please comment on topical finasteride? I've been on it 3 mo, and I'd rather stop now if it's harmful. (No side effects so far, I'm 50.)
All the research I've been able to find says it does not have the same side effects.
It has the same side effects. I tried the hims finasteride and minoxidil spray. Used it four days. Same deal as the oral 1.25mg. If you have no side effects from it, then go for it but if you are prone then topical is no better.
topical finasteride reaches basically the exact same levels in your blood serum and reduces your DHT almost equally. it is just as dangerous. I would stop if I were you. the second you stop taking it anyway all your hair you kept falls out. believe me, you'd rather be bald.
@@chadpurser it does have the same side effects, it reduces DHT serum levels the same as oral does
@@schmeesmclaren1570 it does though, hence the fact that it inhibits serum blood levels to the nearly the same levels systemically. The drug is so potent it still hits every target topically as orally. Might produce slightly less effects but there’s many accounts of the exact same issues.
Stopped fin 5 months ago. Still hoping my natural fonctions will come back :)
I would except strong scientific evidence on PFS? Do we believe in Medicine of Evidence or?
They do not believe in medical evidence because then they would not have a leg to stand on. Their burden of evidence is high for their claims yet they have zero after 14 years of the pfs networks existence. They are just milking money from sad people unfortunately.
Screw those people who are disliking it. Ruining others life in the name of a safe cosmetic drug
RIP michale jackson who dealth with whole dermatology dept
I took finasteride for abot 3 months and it made it nearly impossible for me to get an erection. I didnt have much sensation in my penis at all. I had little to no sex drive.
I am so glad i quit as soon as i noticed the symptoms and made the correlation. I'm about 75% back to normal, but still not what i used to be. Sildenafil/viagra works for me but i don't need it all the time (but i still need it sometimes).
The depression, sense of dread, and fear i felt throughout the time when it was at its worst was unimaginable. I would urge anyone to not even consider trying finasteride. I dont care how small the risk seems. Its a dangerous game of roulette. Find any other way to cope with hair loss. Any other way, but not finasteride.
How are you feeling now?
You probably suffered from a nocebo effect. Theres no doubt side effects from finasteride can happen but they always go away with continued use or upon stopping the drug. Don’t discount just how powerful the nocebo effect can be and also the mind. Most sexual side effects are psychosomatic and having one bad experience can make it hard to recover anyways.
Can you comment on the results of the PCPT trial (25 years, 18882 men, NCI funded) which showed that taking finasteride reduced the incidence of prostate cancer by about 25% over the period of the study, and did not increase the incidence of aggressive prostate cancer? Do you think that everyone with an increased risk of prostate cancer should take finasteride, regardless of the state of their hair?
Lowering estradiol and estrogens may help prevent prostate cancer better than nuking dht /5ar. check out studies on that. not medical advice. good luck.
I'm a 56-year-old woman with hair loss and I've been using topical rogaine for a few years. How does this affect women?
Are these side effects only induced by consuming finasteride in pill form, or do these side effects occur with topical versions of finasteride, such as those found in certain shampoos and hair treatments? My assumption, or wishful thinking, is that finasteride applied to the scalp will have, mostly, just a localized effect and not have systemic consequences. Were as the pill, conversely, would have system wide ramifications described in this video. Am I wrong?
Topical fin will still get circulated systemically like oral. Good news is the post finasteride syndrome is for sure not real. My only side effect from taking it is regretting not taking it earlier.
"its not real" lol this idiot thinks crushing a natural hormone is his body has no side effects. @@mexicancookie7622
You can order lower doses topical finasteride from places like happy head which lowers the systemic impact. PFS is real and anyone who says it’s not either hasn’t read the literature on it, is pushing propaganda and works for the company, hasn’t experienced it personally or is dumb. Start with topical if you’re worried.
@@mexicancookie7622not real for you .. obvious for many
@@mexicancookie7622 Unfortunately post-finasteride syndrome is real. Do you work for Hims or one of the other Instagram pushers?
I'm 59 y/o with BPH for years my Doctor put me on Finasteride 5 mg because of blood in the semen. I got a headache immediately the next day. But I have to take it to shrink the prostate and lower my psa.
I'm a member of a international community of suffers. Unfortunately post Finasteride syndrome is currently not recognised properly. We need help and it definitely needs someone who could conduct studies and finally find a cure
*international cult
You are a member of an online community of anxiety ridden basement dwellers who’s only goal in life is to try and make everyone else as sad and miserably bald as they are. Theres no clinical evidences that “pfs” exists and no one is funding studies for it because its a joke in the medical community. The people that have been tested front to back who claim to have “pfs” have nothing wrong with their blood labs except for indicators that would suggest they have depression, but no different from any other person that suffers depression. I wish you the best and hope you will leave that waste of time forum and seek actual medical help if you have issues.
I'm sure the ejaculation impairment associated with Apha blockers for BPH is massively under reported due to the " sensitive" nature of that subject.
2 bald guys discussing the risks of a 5 alpha reductase inhibitor is hilarious.
However, I came to the same conclusion some years ago, embraced DHT and share now proudly their hairstyle.
No hair is worth the side effects, imho.
My dad went to Stanford for med school, and he is bald. He did not go foe the side effects of the drugs.
Sure but the vast majority of people don't have these side effects and do see results. Up to you though
@@Fedor526 "Vast majority" 10-15% chance of getting PERSISTENT side effects is not nothing, especially when you consider the risk-reward.
@@radim279 Why are you lying tho? 1-2% experience side effects and they go away after discountinued use. People who experience persistent side effects have underlying issues with their hormones. Perfectly save drug. And the only drug that can keep your hair.
not side effects, rather they get a disease or persistent often suicide inducing, job costing, life destroying disease (epigenetic changes. can be reversed but pretty hard, you need 1-2 years off to do it mostly. or 1 year off and insane work ethic and funds and some trial and error and guidance).@@radim279
Finasteride treatment impairs biosynthesis and function of neurosteroids, which are critical regulators of central (CNS) as well as peripheral nervous system functions and modulate a host of neurotransmitter receptors, such as gamma amino butyric acid receptors. Thus, finasteride-induced neuroendocrine disruption of biosynthesis of critical signaling molecules results in pathophysiological states, which contribute to inhibition of biochemical pathways responsible for a host of physiological functions, ranging from sexual activity, mood, and cognition. In addition, finasteride-induced epigenetic changes in gene expression, including upregulation of androgen receptors (AR), increased histone acetylation, and methylation results in undesirable biological outcomes such as impairment of dopaminergic signaling and modulation of other neurotransmitter receptors, may be the underlying mechanism causing persistent or permanent adverse effects, manifested in anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation.
This is based off of rat studies where they mega dosed them with finasteride for their body weight. This would never happen in a human being.
Now, what about saw palmetto -- same?
Yes, can be for some people
LMAO!!! Dude, saw palmetto is a fucking plant. You won't get sides except maybe diarrhea if you take it on an empty stomach. It will also do NOTHING to stop your hair from falling out.
I am taking finasteride since last 3 years. No side effects for me but I don't argue that some people might have side effects.
Have you noticed slowing down or regrowing of hair? I've been on it for 8.5 months and think I might be noticing it but not sure yet.
@Fedor526 Slowing down of hair fall, absolutely yes! Regrowth I would attribute to using minoxidil rather than finasteride
Only a matter of time untill you get them.
@@kenpe1455no, but thinking like that will eventually give you nocebo effects.
@@adelb7897 Finasteride literally blocks the most androgenic horomone and multiple neurosteroids and you have to this for years... It's not nocebo friend. Finasteride isn't some sugar pill.
I have been taking Finasteride for over 6 years. And have not experienced any of the symptoms. I am sure, there are other factors that contribute to it.
Enough guys have taking it for even longer but sooner or later you will experience side effects, most of them like lower libido kreep up slowly.
You know nothing
@@Step74776wheres your evidence to the contrary? Oh wait theres zero
Finasteride treatment impairs biosynthesis and function of neurosteroids, which are critical regulators of central (CNS) as well as peripheral nervous system functions and modulate a host of neurotransmitter receptors, such as gamma amino butyric acid receptors. Thus, finasteride-induced neuroendocrine disruption of biosynthesis of critical signaling molecules results in pathophysiological states, which contribute to inhibition of biochemical pathways responsible for a host of physiological functions, ranging from sexual activity, mood, and cognition. In addition, finasteride-induced epigenetic changes in gene expression, including upregulation of androgen receptors (AR), increased histone acetylation, and methylation results in undesirable biological outcomes such as impairment of dopaminergic signaling and modulation of other neurotransmitter receptors, may be the underlying mechanism causing persistent or permanent adverse effects, manifested in anxiety, depression, and suicidal ideation.
So what do you think can we try for pfs? Maybe butyric acid or something?
@@sboubars that won't do anything whatsoever. The brain DNA genes have been altered. There's a study where 186 Brain genes have been altered. No supplement will fix that. Hdac inhibitors don't repair DNA. The dopaminergic system has been down regulated, the gabanergic system also has been down regulated. It continues there's a lot more.
@@sboubarsthe only thing that will help you is to stopped believing in a made up condition spread online by people with low iqs.
I've been taking 1mg finasteride for 8.5 months. I *think* (hope) that it's slowing my hair loss/regrowing hair. The only symptom I've noticed is significantly lower semen volume (approximately 50% less) and maybe slightly lower desire for sex, which I don't really have an issue with. I was probably obsessed with sex so I feel like now I have a much better balance with it
I've seen this exact same comment posted on finasteride forums. This is at least five years old. So sketchy.
@@PriusTurbo Link?
Wait till he gets BPH he will change his mind, as for the side effects, they definitely exaggerated, check this channel out, guys - www.youtube.com/@haircafekevin
there is nothing healthy about losing 50% of your ejaculate whether or not you are consciously fine with your sexuality being ripped away from you permanently.
@@bjbnhghgjg9427 "maybe slightly lower desire for sex, which I don't really have an issue with. I was probably obsessed with sex so I feel like now I have a much better balance with it" this part has been plastered all over subreddits like tressless and other content discussing the drug in general. Im sure its a bot, but that makes it even worse cus it shows how purposeful this is and how aware the FDA really is about the reality of this yet still turn a blind eye, or worse.
I was on finasteride and had symptoms... waited some years and now I am on topical finasteride that I just spray on. The topical seems to be way better from personal experience
Topical still has the capacity to go systemic in the body and cause lasting issues. There are many reports from men who used it thinking it was a safer option, only to end up in the same situation as those who took it orally and are now stuck with many unrelenting effects. All bodies are different. Be careful.
@@JetPackFlame So here is something weird that happened to me - At first I took the oral finasteride when I was like 19, and took it for about 10 years. I decided to go off of it for various reasons, and for about 2 years my hair came back with fury. Like I was not on anything - but my hair came back really thick. Thicker than high school... and then after those 2 years it started to phase out again. It was very strange and I have no idea wtf.
so you realized the danger of playing with fire, but now you just want to get burned purposely?
But wait there's more of a bonus Conclusions : Our findings confirm retinal and optic nerve damage in addition to OCT changes in patients who had been on finasteride
Getting a hair transplant without taking a 5AR inhibitor is quite counterintuitive
*counter-productive
@@AlbertCren counterintuitive
Playing without your hormones and expecting 0 side effects is quite counterintuitive also
@@Kogen123 Who said I expected 0 side effects? I knew every potential side effect before taking finasteride and got my baseline blood work taken before it
@@jonessss hope you don't have side effects. Good luck
21 years of finasteride…held onto my hair…no side effects. Added oral minoxidil last year with great results. I’m skeptical of this take without looking at the type of males are having this issues, such as being overweight.
Don’t attack me I would just recommend consulting with a male dermatologist in person.
I got the side effects and i am very fit. Got them at 32 and have not recovered completely insofar as my mood and mental acuity.
most dudes with this are in super good shape. I actually rarely if ever see overweight people with this issue. you are lucky you have a strong homeostatic genetic baseline/profile. consider yourself one of the rare ones because while permanent and life ruining cases of PFS are not the majority (consider me unlucky), the majority do get some kind of negative symptom if not multiple while taking the drug which is why most dont get PFS cus they quit the drug due to how bad the sides were, before systemically disrupting their neuroendocrinological pathways, steroidogenesis and metabolic mechanisms, and ultimately altering their androgen receptor or silencing/modifying certain genes for the rest of their lives. There are many suspected and now growingly proven reasons some people are much more predisposed to developing this and it has a lot more to do with factors such as ADD and other neurochemical and dopaminergic congenital conditions compared to the neurotypical individual as these create a naturally more fragile homeostatic profile, therefore more susceptible to adverse affects from complete androgen manipulation/deprivation than someone who has a backup system genetically available when undergoing the same treatment.
I've taken it for 6 years. Had some mild symptoms after the first year or so but they resolved after a two week break, and I havent had any side effects since. Imo it is tremendously irresponsible to feed into the anxiety and fears of young men by pretending that PFS is a thing. A serious medical professional would *NEVER* mention a 'syndrome' that isn't clinically proven without at the very, very least saying as much.
That is imo what makes these "PFS" scaremonger youtube doctors unreliable and difficult to take seriously. They want you to buy their testosterone therapy BS so they need to convince you that you have a problem. Hell, some people on the pro-PFS forums on reddit will claim stuff like "men who say they dont experience side effects are lying to themselves" its like they're invested in people sharing their self-induced make believe.
Male dermatologist 😂😂
@@HarshMishra-ok3yp right. A dermatologist with zero endocrinology expertise male or female are the problem, they are the ones who would say DHT’s only role is to kill your hair follicles! forget the fact it’s the most potent androgen in the body, it is a ruthless offender of aesthetics, has to go
Bro’s just be bald, keep it clean, get a tan, stop this madness
agree my man....looking like tom cruise aint worth it trading with no work down there.....ofc men we lucky we can compensate looks by money alone...
Nah being bald is ass when its a choice.
Good this is being addressed as the side effect impact was a total cover up. For hair loss it is effective at micro doses. If you dont care about being a virile and sexual man take it . Otherwise it is disasterous.
This is total conspiracy theory bullshit my guy😂 theres no mass cover up of side effects. If there was it would have been pulled from the market in the 90’s back when it was already being prescribed by the millions for mpb and bph. People don’t want to admit that because of online fear mongering, they are nocebo effecting themselves.
I’ve been on finasteride for years with no side effects. Research demonstrates that only a fraction of the 1mg pill is needed to be effective. I take 0.25mg every 3 days. Works for me.
No one in this video said everyone gets it, it’s a nuanced issue, there happens to be some people who do get PFS
Only a matter of time untill you notice side effects even at low doses.
I dont care if you get sides or not. I wanna know if you have a active lifestyle and have sex on regular base while on fin. Most Man in general dont know that there is something wrong with her sexuality, cause they have no sex...
@@bangbob673yes everything works great
hello, i am 25 still a lot of hair but noticing that it is slowly starting to get thinner receding on the temples and increasingly falling in the shower, slowly, so i was thinking of hoping on 0,25mg daily and this comment caught me off guard... so you take 0,25mg every 3 days????????? and it works? wow, im going to see the doctor tomorrow and ask him about this, i wont hop on 1mg daily, or even 0,5mg daily. i just want to figure out what is the least amount i can get away with.
But what about the link between baldness and heart disease? Is it the dht causing this?
Hair transplant as an alternative solution - how come I've never thought about such a CHEAP solution, this man is a bald genius!
You still need to take finasteride after a hair transplant.
Finally, we are breaking the wall of silence! We should promote finasteride cancellation for men pattern baldness. Please, make a video about Reuters article about things with suing Merk company in US. ❤
OK bald bro😂
What about the severe depression of hair loss! I would think the drug is worth the risk!
Loss of hair is happening to your body, depression is in your mind. You could consider therapy or other cognitive-based treatments to address the depression, instead of trying to fight the inevitable process taking place on your head.
Sadly depression happens from finasteride in some men so depends on your genetics.
I had way worse depression from finasteride than from going bald
key word "think." you will wish you had thought much differently and realized how miniscule your hair is to your happiness if you were to develop PFS.
@@fochiller yeah man...totally not worth the fin...bcz looking like tom cruise when down the machine not working is totally bs and worthless...
Can’t wait for this to reach Haircafe’s desk!
He already made a video about it, this a clip from an interview made some time ago.
@@marcinzabiego6180 Yes, I know this interview already occurred. The video here, is a clip from that video, however, Dr. Attia felt the need to revisit PFS again and upload a specific clip addressing PFS, again.
Lol, he's a broscientist with zero scientific credentials or background. He has severe mental issues too, google his past.
Does anybody watch that guy's videos and think "here's an all together guy who I should listen to". He's a 45 year old Eric Cartman, with hair.
@@james_44 Yeah. Actually, Haircafe is more versed and knowledgeable on the research and topic of hair loss, and all things associated with it, relative to these 2 guys.
Are we talking topical or oral?
Good to see awareness but what we really need is to know if and when this is fixable
Post first-time Hansen around for a quarter of a century and there are no cured except time, supplements and try for a lucky maybe twenty percent. Everyone else is is in purgatory for years, deacdes.
I had severe pfs and was a rare recovery story but crashed again because I took another drug. We need grant funded research asap, it's not possible to live with extreme symptoms for years one end without being extremely suicidal
what your symptons?
All of them I'm fucked@@ihavePFS
What cured you?
Lol you crashes because of another drug? Are you sure the problem is that you are a hypcondridact?
I use it topically and it’s not as bad side effect wise compared to oral dosage. Topically will still go systemic.. I think Bryan Johnson uses finasteride and he’s trying to live forever so there’s that
Bryan Johnson does not use finasteride and I experienced the same side effects with topical.
@@PriusTurbo dude fact check yourself before you say wrong comments.. it’s on a podcast interview of him applying 1mg a day.. don’t just type without fact checking yourself.. it’s inconsiderate to humanity and the youtube-verse
Guys you can tolerate fin long term and still get PFS when you quit. I got it after 8 years. This is no joke
Same with me i used it for 6 years and then only started getting side effects, another 7 years later and i am still not cured
So should you never quit in this case? I'm genuinely wondering
@@silent_anon404 i started getting the sides while i was taking it and thats why i quit
Absolutely not in my opinion @@silent_anon404
@@sboubarscan you tell me how it is possible to get it after so many years of use and your body is used to it, it does not make any sense. I think u went to online forums and heard negative things, then u gave yourself nocebo effect.
I'm sorry there is not a lot of options that actually work. Hair transplant can leave scarring so when you eventually do go bald it looks terrible. PRP looks promising but not cheap. Basically what this guy is saying is just go bald.
How long would be the average usage of the drug to see if the person is affected by these 1 in 10 chances, though?
It only takes a week for me. I've gone back on finasteride three times. I've gone through the "waiting period" and there is no adjustment back to normal. The libido thing is bad. Feeling the mind disconnect from your body is like paralysis. The masculine drive and sense of well-being is a worse effect. My body does not tolerate it. I tried the topical and four days in same deal. I'm now waiting for it to subside. If you're going to try it I recommend having a fixed routine with a girl, workouts diet etc so you can clearly see the issues as soon as they arise. The first time I took it I wasn't paying attention until my girlfriend thought I didn't like her anymore and asked me about it. For me that stuff is poison.
I took it for almost 3 years before developing symptoms which quickly deteriorated and were permanent. There is no real telling what the specific threshold is among people that brings it past the point of no return, especially between individuals as it will vary widely and naturally and for several different reasons.
On the contrary: I am taking 1mg daily for 1 year - absolutely no issues. I was scared in the beginning so I was a little hypochondriac about it, but that's it.
When i was 26 I was on top of the world but I took finasteride cus i was losing my hair. for 15 months i had no side effects and then one day my genitals literally went numb to the touch, and shrank and i could never feel sexual pleasure again. as months went on I couldnt sleep, I couldnt concentrate, i felt like I was no longer human and i was robbed of my life entirely, and no doctors could help at all. you dont even get a single answer or any sense of assurity ever again. 3 years after getting off the drug and nothing has changed. I will never be the same again and my life is over when it was just starting.
I think the same happened to me. Can we contact ? Pls
Have you asked for referral to a neurologist?
Check out Ryan Russo
Have you ever tried a specific type of diet or different kinds of supplements to get better?
@@gustavobastos769 sure what do you use
It's been ten years for me since I took that god-awful drug for no more than 20 days. My libido has not returned to this day. I am desperate to get it back. My love life is in tatters.
Have you ever tried a specific type of diet or different kinds of supplements to get better?
@@sebk174I've tried 'clean' keto for four months, eliminating seed oils, i take flush-niacin and lots of other supplemnts (Mg and Zinc being a prominent ones), I do HIIT and intense strength training 4/5 times a week. I get 7/8 hours sleep. Any suggestions please let me know.
Bro whatever is wrong with you is not because of a pill you took 10 years ago😂 you need to get actual medical help for whatever is wrong with you
Saw palmetto ruined my life at age 31
What happened?
get real dude it's a plant extract🤣🤣🤣
I had bad sides with it. I stopped it went away.
@@EmirAssassinso is cocaine
@@JLCsyr cocaine is heavily processed you won't get fucked up off of ground up coca leaves lmfao
Me watching this crap with a Popcorn bucket, Full hair on my head and taking Finasteride for over 4 years now.
You'll regret having ever taken it sooner or later. It's poison for the nervous system.
You're not a hypochondriac I'm guessing. Pfs is fake
The baldcells hate you 😂
The baldcells must hate you so much😂
I'd NEVER use a 5AR inhibitor for hair loss. I'd rather be bald or get a hair transplant.
The issue is ur baldness progresses. And if u dont do something to stop that at some point ure gonna run out of hair to transplant from. Its not gonna be enough to cover ur whole head. Like these dudes here. They couldnt get a good result with a transplant. Too far gone
And if you get a transplant, you can still lose the new hair so you need to take finasteride in many cases to keep the transplanted hair
Getting a hair transplant doesn't stop hair loss from progressing. The transplanted will be fine, but the non-transplanted hair around it will continue miniaturising, potentially looking terribly unnatural. And of course any transplant will leave scarring that will become visable should you shave your head.
@@jsward96everyone knows already bruh, but it’s better to have a few years extra hair if you can rather than neuter yourself taking fin.
@@Olympiamaniac That is a *very* shortsighted perspective to have. If you had a hair transplant, and your hair loss progressed becasue you weren't treating it, would you really want to spend decades of your life with a scalp with exposed scars on the back?
I love having hair, but even the remotest possibility of decimating my sex drive is a complete deal breaker for me.
I'll make attempts to improve my diet but Finasteride sounds like a no go.
Wtf does your diet have to do w anything ?
@@RM-jb2bv Surely having a healthier diet goes some distance to maintaining your hair, right?
@@thebatman4279no haha, you could be the healthiest person on the planet but if you have the balding genes it doesn’t matter
@@thebatman4279 You are likely not loosing hair due to nutrient deficency but due to androgenic alopeia. Your only way to combat this is 5-AR inhibitors.
If you love your hair don't waste time, check your baseline hormone levels and if you don't have hypogonadism, finasteride is 100% safe for you as per medical literature.
@@milenavidmar2733 can you provide a source that outlines a 100% correlation between a lack of hypogonadism and zero side effects from fin?
6 years with PFS for me, TRT, hcg, supplements nothing works, my life is destroyed
Have you ever tried the carnivore diet?
if you look at the comments below you will realise that this disease is not as rare as you think...please think again...
Absolutely on Reddit r/postfinasteride is telling. This is also very related to PSSD. Practically the same symptoms.
100% it's growing extremely rapidly
@@_brandonkeith-te5oj a lot don’t even know the symptoms they are experiencing are from taking fin/min
stay away from this cursed drug
I’m taking 5mg finasteride for 2 months for
Prostrate problems I’m on day 36 of 60 .. my libido is down and my erections weak … how many time the side effects are going away after u ended my treatment?
My husband has been on fin for 4 years. He’s 71. Every man in his family had total hair loss by 60, so when his fantastic hair started to thin in his mid 60s he tried minoxidil with no results. Then he started fin. Not only did it stop the hair loss, but it’s filled back in. At 71!!!
His side effects were only that he couldn’t “finish” during sex. But, he was patient (I was as well, lol) and that went away after a couple of months.
He intends to continue to take it.
All I can tell you is he’s fit, active, exercises regularly, eats well, and is told regularly he looks 50.
Thanks
Watch out, sooner or later he will pay the price for usint that hormonal poison. You have been warned
Poison
Hair loss at 60 was a bless tho
@@Step74776 perfectly safe drug.
Been on finasteride for 20 years. I love it
Your health doesn't love it though.
@@kenpe1455 ok thanks doc
@@bozolito108 Surely the professor is wrong in this video. I mean what could go wrong with blocking the most androgenic hormone and multiple neurosteroids for decades right? Lol
@@kenpe1455Nothing can go wrong buddy let's mess up our hormones for aesthetics purposes just to demonstrate the next stranger we met on the road, (that don't give a fuck about us) that we got fabulous hair.
@@kenpe1455 fyi finasteride was developed and is used mainly to shrink enlarged prostates which is why I need it. New studies are also showing it’s reducing risk of prostate cancer. But you’re an expert so you knew that already
I put off trying finasteride for years because of idiots like this scaring me. I've been on it for over a year now, hairloss has stopped and recovered quite a bit, also had no side effects what so ever.
Just because you got no side effects doesn't mean that's not a thing , your'e the idiot if you think your single experience justifies you calling these guys idiots. The risk of loss of sexual function is significant and against what was said here there are studies that show that not everyone gets that back if they stop taking alpha blockers.
Should they not be discussing potential side effects to save feelings? you don't side effects, good for you, that does not negate the fact that many do, awareness is not a bad thing, no need to insult others.
I've been on it for 8 years still no regrets. Had it not been for a small transplant finasteride and minoxidil I'd be a Norwood 6 right now like my dad and bro. But I'm still rocking a full head of hair. Don't listen to this scaremonger.
@@connorpatterson3503I am certain you don’t get any pssy, this drug has been proven to have neutered many men
You're the only idiot, you will get sid effects sooner or later. Messing with hormones and neurosteroids will come at a price. But keep coping
the fact that this guest talked about hair transplants as an alternative to finasteride shows he has no idea what hes talking about. no doctor will do a hair transplant without finasteride, otherwise the hairs will just fall out again anyway
The transplanted hairs are immune to DHT so they don't fall out, it's true you'll probably need multiple transplants if you don't take fina but that's worth it to avoid the hormonal poison that is finasteride.
get a transplant
It protects from prostate cancer
And bladder cancer
I lost every masculine trait from Finasteride, muscle loss, facial ageing and changes. Its a horrible horrible drug. I also developed testicular cancer. No warnings!!!
Fr?😳...I am sorry for that, hope you recover 🙏
Lol this js a crock of bullshit finasteride doesn’t cause muscle loss because it doesn’t lower dht. It also doesn’t give you ball cancer. It was probably the other way around if even true.
Que the nocebo fear mongering
Nocebo? I have phisichal damges
@@Dabine558sure you do, are the physical damages in the room with us right now?
@@bignickenergy2042 sarcopenia, gynecomastia, genital shrinkage, loss of collagen.
Good luck a.h.
@@bignickenergy2042 no, in the room with your mother
no, in the room with your mother
Two slapheads telling you why you should join club horseshoe.
Spot on
Slaphead curse enjoyers fearmongering yet again
Just two bald guys coping hard.
Hahahaah
you're a clown
Lmao bald guys with tons of education
Fina pill takers coping hard a professor is telling the truth.
i can't imagine how dumb someone has to be to take finasteride for hair loss
Never underestimate the power of vanity to make people do the most inane things. Look at how many inane things both men and women do to appear attractive.
@@alphacause you are right
It’s prescribed by doctors?. And some people don’t have side effects and aren’t aware of the prostate issue..
@@MrPelham32 Doctors prescribe many things with deleterious side effects, and there are people who take these potentially destructive substances without negative side effects. I think the issue with finasteride is that people are taking a risk, even if that risk is relatively small, for something that is trivial - looking good. People are taking a risk for vanity. While in other cases, where a doctor prescribes something with possible negative side effects, the patient takes the risk because of the health or life saving effect of the drug. Its the trading of health of vanity that the original commenter (@fitmind231), and I, find foolish.
I'll take the reduced libido for my hair any day of the week
Not real