No fouling at all. The idea here is to be able to shoot you weapon using a cheap way to make some indoor fun while honing your skills on that trigger and sight system
A cast glue bullet is a very intriguing concept. The only foreseeable problem in my mind is that after the glue has been melted, it will dry to a slightly smaller diameter than desired. I'm just theorizing here, hopefully you prove me wrong. Thanks for another extremely informational video!
About 20 years ago I bought a wax bullet set up for my 45. The brass ws drilled out to accept shotgun primers and you just pressed the case into a block of canning/preserves wax. With the shotgun primer i could break bear bottles from about ten feet. The primers were easy to push in by hand.
UMC is the same company as Remington. It's a little thinner but works fine for me. Make sure you trim them after each firing. They'll harden after 2-3 loadings. If you don't like the brass you can always trade it for something else from another shooter.
@DungionKeaper Why not? Use a bullet mold to cast it. Makes a big difference. Use a short bullet though. If it's too long it will tumble because of the low RPM.
My S&W 625 4" .45 ACP doesn't like this method. It got bound up a bit but this revolver doesnt have the tight headspace tolerances as my 1911. I'm working this quirk out though.
I've tried this before but not with glue sticks. Speer sell plastic bullets for this and they aren't expensive but still 4-5 times as much as a glue stick bullet. Casting a glue stick in a bullet ould makes it more aerodynamic and consistent.
The main idea for this is to be able to shoot indoors or in the back yard. I also use them for teaching new shooters the importance of trigger control without the added flinching.
That's a pretty neat concept-can the same principle be applied using-say a .38 Special with small rifle mag primers and just fitting the glue stick to the cartridge?
I use glue-stick bullets in my .45 Colt revolver. They work great. I found that they'll go right through a 5-gallon plastic bucket. So, I use a .22 bullet trap to catch the bullets.
Maybe, but due to a strange quirk of design and physics, primers rely on the pressure inside of the case to stay seated. If you open the flash hole, they stay seated for sure. I'll tell you how I know: I locked up a .38 special trying the same idea as the glue stick, except using wax. Worked fine, till one of the primers wedged in between the case and the frame of the gun. Anyway that's pretty neat: I wouldn't have guessed glue sticks were .45 caliber. Have you tried reloading the pellets?
Did anyone mention that your part on deepening the primer pocket replayed itself? It's up to the drill part where you were showing and saying it was for your drill.
I recently just bought .22 hollow points for my .22lr rifle and the hole is way too small, if i widened the hole with a knife could this mod possibly damage the rifles barrel?
wow i didnt realize that would put out that much power..... lol that would be cool if i could though. if i might ask... how do the cops use the rubber bullets? how do they get away with not going into someones skin
This is a very similar technique that we use in the military when using rubber tip rounds for Urban warfare and yes they do hurt up close. This method shown here is AMERICAN INGENUITY. The round will not travel the same trajectory path as a real round but that is not the point. It is muscle memory that you are thriving for and executing malfunctions and staying on target( enemy) when under stress,*its a cost effective operation. There are other reasons why you would want to do this BE SAFE GUYS!
now this could be fun to play with. .but yet agian, WHY BOTHER, just buy a $40 pellet gun to get some trigger time. wouldn't this fill your rifling with glue?
Depends..cops here or in Israel? The ones used here are shot from 40mm and are nerf bullets or bean bags. You "could" use these in a desparate situation where there's a riot. I prefer lead in that case.
@TheRealestEver okay ill put it this way....where i live, if you are on your property and not shooting at a roadway...you are completely legal, even in a neighborhood...also, yes cowboy action shooting uses candle wax bullets, which is even more fouling for a gun, so i dont want to hear it.
i suppose, if you didn't grow up shooting, and need more trigger practice. i grew up shooting, so my skills of shooting are more instintive than learned. so i suppose those who have yet to master the "uniformed grip" could see some good from this with the firearm they use. however, nothing beats a good trigger job.
what kind of weight do they hold?...maybe 30-40 grains if even close to that much? btw, your videos provide great information and instruction, but if i may offer some constructive criticism?...try to learn/memorize what you are going to be speaking on before recording your vids, they get hard to listen to because you stop and start so much...
in a 1911 family gun...NEVER drop a "round" into the port and let the slide down to battery. the extractor CAN slip over,and CAN allow chambering...but,John Moses Browning did NOT design the gun to do that. the extractor is designed to SLIDE UNDER THE HEAD AND RIM OF CONTROLLED FEEDING A SINGLE ROUND TO THE CHAMBER. not ever to snap over the head of the cartridge,these are beveled to allow this in case of emergency..but never as a practice,you will weaken and misaline the extractor doing this
also, i would tend to think; glue bullet+tiny explosion+high velocity through rifling= a fucking mess of a barrel...i would think that thing basically fills up all of the rifling channels with glue.......right?
@@ammosmith sorry I'm not quite following you here so if I wanted to use these in a semi automatic pistol and I loaded a charge behind the bullet itself could this be done or is this dangerous
No fouling at all. The idea here is to be able to shoot you weapon using a cheap way to make some indoor fun while honing your skills on that trigger and sight system
A cast glue bullet is a very intriguing concept. The only foreseeable problem in my mind is that after the glue has been melted, it will dry to a slightly smaller diameter than desired. I'm just theorizing here, hopefully you prove me wrong. Thanks for another extremely informational video!
How do these hold up to the heat and what kind of cleaning do you have afterward?
About 20 years ago I bought a wax bullet set up for my 45. The brass ws drilled out to accept shotgun primers and you just pressed the case into a block of canning/preserves wax. With the shotgun primer i could break bear bottles from about ten feet. The primers were easy to push in by hand.
I dont have rifle magnum primers. will this work with regular rifle primers?
UMC is the same company as Remington. It's a little thinner but works fine for me. Make sure you trim them after each firing. They'll harden after 2-3 loadings. If you don't like the brass you can always trade it for something else from another shooter.
It does. It's an advantage though. What it does is allows the bullet to easily pass through the bore.
I never knew primers had such a power in them.
@DungionKeaper Why not? Use a bullet mold to cast it. Makes a big difference. Use a short bullet though. If it's too long it will tumble because of the low RPM.
Any thoughts on lead exposure from the lead styphnate that is used in primers and using them indoors with minimal ventilation?
My S&W 625 4" .45 ACP doesn't like this method. It got bound up a bit but this revolver doesnt have the tight headspace tolerances as my 1911. I'm working this quirk out though.
Sure is. It's also nice in that you can perfect your trigger control and shoot at the same time. I also do this with my 22 Hornet.
@smokestakz Not at all. When I cast them in a bullet mold I use white lithium grease in the grease grooves and there is no fouling at all.
I've tried this before but not with glue sticks. Speer sell plastic bullets for this and they aren't expensive but still 4-5 times as much as a glue stick bullet. Casting a glue stick in a bullet ould makes it more aerodynamic and consistent.
Dang it! I've got to buy a .45 now! ;) Looks fun.
Thanks! It's way fun too. I think it would be a great tool to teach a younger shooter as a "simulator" or a novice shooter. It's pretty accurate too.
The main idea for this is to be able to shoot indoors or in the back yard. I also use them for teaching new shooters the importance of trigger control without the added flinching.
That's a pretty neat concept-can the same principle be applied using-say a .38 Special with small rifle mag primers and just fitting the glue stick to the cartridge?
It's a driver bit set with a drill bit 1/8" to pre drill holes. It's for making decks or furniture.
I use glue-stick bullets in my .45 Colt revolver. They work great. I found that they'll go right through a 5-gallon plastic bucket. So, I use a .22 bullet trap to catch the bullets.
The magnum rifle primer has a lot pep to them It sounds like a .22 blank by itself.
@vampire847 It does indeed! I use them in my 45ACP revolver. I also use my 45 bullet mold to cast them. They are dry accurate too!
Maybe, but due to a strange quirk of design and physics, primers rely on the pressure inside of the case to stay seated. If you open the flash hole, they stay seated for sure.
I'll tell you how I know: I locked up a .38 special trying the same idea as the glue stick, except using wax. Worked fine, till one of the primers wedged in between the case and the frame of the gun.
Anyway that's pretty neat: I wouldn't have guessed glue sticks were .45 caliber. Have you tried reloading the pellets?
I'm going to show hot to cast them in a bullet mold soon. We are upgrading and we are a little slow on the production end of things....
Hey what was the tool you used to enlarge the primer pocket? You didn't give it a name in the video.
Did anyone mention that your part on deepening the primer pocket replayed itself? It's up to the drill part where you were showing and saying it was for your drill.
is it possible to take out primers with out a special tool? possibly a very small screw driver?
was that the first time you did that or did you do it before?
you know that after a few rounds that the glue bullet will melt almost on contact with the barrel after being chambered...right?
What would happen if you melted the glue in the shape of the bullet instead?
@L1NG4N You can use a long finishing nail to tap it out.
Yes, I've done it. You need to use a bullet mold to cast them.
I recently just bought .22 hollow points for my .22lr rifle and the hole is way too small, if i widened the hole with a knife could this mod possibly damage the rifles barrel?
what kind of weight do they hold?...maybe 30-40 grains if even close to that much?
wow i didnt realize that would put out that much power..... lol that would be cool if i could though. if i might ask... how do the cops use the rubber bullets? how do they get away with not going into someones skin
@DavidnAmy10 Yes...I use the glue gun to injection mold the bullet. Works great.
@hiimstevie15 Yes. There is not enough pressure to cycle the action.
@DrPepper2802 Yes indeed. Just cast the glue stick into a 40 caliber mold and you're there.
can you do this with a .357? i think it would work better for revolvers so u dont have to chamer a round everytime u shoot
what was the name of the last u sead a cap gun or what a deer some thing ??? can you wright it down plz
and thanx for your interesting video
Yes..you won't get as high a velocity but it'll work.
@turbotonic27 Several reasons...indoor shooting or to let a recoil and noise sensitive student to learn proper trigger control and sight picture.
It won't cycle the action at all. Clean the weapon after firing. Most of the fouling is from the primers.
What 1911 is that? Ive been looking for one just like that..
ammosmith are these safe in glock rifling and can you re melt the glue and reuse it
Yes. I usse my bullet mold to cast a gkue bullet. I'll be doing a video on this soon.
Works great. I use my 45 caliber bullet mold.
my pleasure.
Lead is hazardous. I do think however it's over hyped. It's not nerve gas. Use common sense and you'll be fine. I use an exhaust fan.
Unfortunately I sold my 303 about 15 years ago. I am in the market for one though.
No. I do this a lot to enhance expansion. The only ill effect would be to accuracy.
you are awsome... will be making .38 or .357 glue bullets.... let me know when you make a video for .38 special or .357 magnum glue bullets
Great video.
Could you do this with a 44mag ?
is your 1911 custom made?
@edog355 Yes and the bullets don't deform so I just reuse them.
how can I pull the bullet out of a 38 semi wad cutter.
Can you make a slug for a 12 G if you mold it?
where can i find the reforming tool 4 the 45 acp?
will it do anything to the gun?
No. it leaves no fouling. If it does a bore brush will get it out.
@smokestakz I'm not a video guy...just trying to pass on what I know. ..I'm getting better. These bullets weigh about 25 grains.
@L1NG4N No...not adviseable if they are live. A primer packs a punch.
This is a very similar technique that we use in the military when using rubber tip rounds for Urban warfare and yes they do hurt up close. This method shown here is AMERICAN INGENUITY. The round will not travel the same trajectory path as a real round but that is not the point. It is muscle memory that you are thriving for and executing malfunctions and staying on target( enemy) when under stress,*its a cost effective operation. There are other reasons why you would want to do this BE SAFE GUYS!
I wouldn't try it in a long barreled rifle. One got stuck in my S&W 25 with a 8 3/8" barrel.
No but it increaes velocity.
Thanks for the heads up...
Yes! I'm going to make a video on it...
can u do this with a 9mm
I'm going to do another experiment by using the glue gun and casting one in a bullet mold. This should be interesting.
now this could be fun to play with. .but yet agian, WHY BOTHER, just buy a $40 pellet gun to get some trigger time. wouldn't this fill your rifling with glue?
these would be great for revolver training i bet...
You're more than welcome ;-)
Depends..cops here or in Israel? The ones used here are shot from 40mm and are nerf bullets or bean bags. You "could" use these in a desparate situation where there's a riot. I prefer lead in that case.
@TheRealestEver okay ill put it this way....where i live, if you are on your property and not shooting at a roadway...you are completely legal, even in a neighborhood...also, yes cowboy action shooting uses candle wax bullets, which is even more fouling for a gun, so i dont want to hear it.
I have experienced no fouling at all.
Demonstration. It goes a lot faster in real time.
My 1911 doesn't exactly like to cycle empty brass or wadcutters..
hi mr ammo you might need to reedit this one mate , as youve made a huge error . see if you can spot, see if you can spot it.
Let's play nice fellas.
@trigun890 Hah! hah! ha! That's funny! I needed a good laugh this morning.
no prob man its really sad how much ppl fight on here. that a good idea anyways i thought so
@craz3killa thank you but I'd love to keep my extractor working.
Not at all. The only thing it will do is deplete your primer supply. I have fire many gluets.
I will.
i suppose, if you didn't grow up shooting, and need more trigger practice. i grew up shooting, so my skills of shooting are more instintive than learned. so i suppose those who have yet to master the "uniformed grip" could see some good from this with the firearm they use. however, nothing beats a good trigger job.
Put a gas check in the bottom of a 38 spec and use hot glue gun to fill the case.
what kind of weight do they hold?...maybe 30-40 grains if even close to that much?
btw, your videos provide great information and instruction, but if i may offer some constructive criticism?...try to learn/memorize what you are going to be speaking on before recording your vids, they get hard to listen to because you stop and start so much...
in a 1911 family gun...NEVER drop a "round" into the port and let the slide down to battery.
the extractor CAN slip over,and CAN allow chambering...but,John Moses Browning did NOT design the gun to do that.
the extractor is designed to SLIDE UNDER THE HEAD AND RIM OF CONTROLLED FEEDING A SINGLE ROUND TO THE CHAMBER.
not ever to snap over the head of the cartridge,these are beveled to allow this in case of emergency..but never as a practice,you will weaken and misaline the extractor doing this
also, i would tend to think; glue bullet+tiny explosion+high velocity through rifling= a fucking mess of a barrel...i would think that thing basically fills up all of the rifling channels with glue.......right?
@txstang84 Should work fine.
@HYPOspeed Never tried it.
Fun.
I use wax in 38.
Can you do this with 9 mm Luger
Yes...and 357 and others.
@@ammosmith thanks!so out of curiosity why no powder is it a pressure issue?
@@garret3222 with no pressure the primer will back out from it's own pressure.
@@ammosmith sorry I'm not quite following you here so if I wanted to use these in a semi automatic pistol and I loaded a charge behind the bullet itself could this be done or is this dangerous
@@garret3222 it won't cycle. It would reach lethal velocities too.
HELL NO! These will go through 3" of ballistic gelatin. Use an airsoft one preferably his...adds insult to the injury.
actually the redundancy is at around 02:32 , you dont need to delete the first 3 mins :)
There's a glitch in the Matrix!
Oh, sorry i did not specify, i meant spent primers
Man, the more of your videos I watch, the more I'm gonna go broke...between you and Eric...y'all are terrible-lol!
Groundhog day groundhog day Groundhog Day repeat repeat repeat
Possum Primer Pocket Uniformer.