Do you think the current rise in gas prices & petrol shortages in the UK will help transition more people over to EVs? Tell us what you think in the comments below....
Increasingly volatile fossil fuel prices ahead will undoubtedly speed the transition. (Disappointed in the use of the term "Green Hydrogen "...... No such thing!)
I’m a courier. My current van cost £6,500. Off EBay. 2 years ago. During the height of the pandemic it earned me £2,000 a week. It carries 1,500kg as if it’s empty. Now due to redeployment it earns me £1,500 a week. I cover up to 280 miles a day. I saw a DPD electric sprinter yesterday, it costs £68,000 plus vat. It’s fully charged range is 70 miles. It’s load capacity it 767 KG. None of this adds up.
@@BourbonISvegan You are talking extremes here. There are plenty of less expensive electric vans available such as the e-dispatch that you can buy or lease for under £400 a month. Subtract your ICE fuel costs (what - at least £200 a month?), tax, maintenance, repairs and then how much are you paying a month? Also you won't be able to drive diesel vans in many cities over the next few years due to Clean Air Zones.
Even the cheapest 💩 box electric car is about £7000 so no not until they are about £300 lol 😂 that’s all most hard working folk can realistically afford.
@@RichardEricCollins - you are, of course, correct. But Emma showed so much more than just an excellent command of the English Language - astute, calm, thoughtful (and sensitive), forward thinking, powerhouse in a world so assailed by the FUDsters. Don't want to put words in Robert's mouth but I wholeheartedly agree that it is really reassuring to see calm thought by the leaders in the UK energy space. Especially at this time.
@@aidanapword I'd say no. Kids are just curious, while MPs are generally not just confused but trying to figure out how to twist the words for their own benefit.
I thought that initially but I think he just had a glitchy connection, you can see his video isn't great. It's hard to have a video call and not interrupt if you're lagging behind.
No disrespect to Robert, I love the content... However I do wish sometimes he would stop trying to preempt the answer while asking the question and just let the interviewee speak. Just sayin...
Unfortunately that's a bad habit of many tv presenters these days. Look at that Mark Austin on Sky News , he's dreadful - "questions" far longer than the answers.
This wasn't his finest interview. He seemed a bit too eager to talk. Part of the joy of Robert is the excitement he brings to a conversation but the balance was definitely off a little in this interview. Must be hard to relax when you work as hard as he appears to!!
Emma can communicate UK energy position in 10 minutes despite her assistant!, brilliant interviews that make you chuckle and informed typical Fully Charged and more of the same please.
Come to Copenhagen or Aarhus in Denmark, Robert. Cities are made for people, driving around is annoying. I bought a VW id3 after I got convinced by you, but we would never drive it in the city because is way easier to move in a bike
More people in the (western) world would use a bicycle if they felt safe using it. Denmark, the Netherlands and luckily more and more places in the world have or is working on safe bicycle infrastructure.
As the other comment says the UK needs a safe cycling network , it's self correcting ofcourse the less cars the safer cycling is ,, but we don't have good cycle network here to kick start less car use .
@@mikedx2706 If the bike lane is full of ice then its a maintaing problem not a wetter problem and riding in rain doesnt matter you can just equip your self with the right cloths . Its just saying i want to drive my care becouse i want to ve dependent the rest of my live by the care .
@@mikedx2706 I cycle year round, in all weathers and while there are some days that are bloody rubbish, most of the time the weather is ok, even in winter. A little rain isn't a big deal, just when it's really heavy or windy. Cold isn't a big deal as you can wear this magical invention called a coat. People think the weather is always terrible in winter but its not true most of the time.
Emma was a star....even being talked over by Robert...he really must learn to listen to his guests and give them time to say their piece. I like him but this is not the first clip I have seen where he interrupts his guest....especially one as knowledgeable as Emma. Please take note Robert.
I thought that initially but I think he just had a glitchy connection, you can see his video isn't great. It's hard to have a video call and not interrupt if you're lagging behind.
Thank you Fully Charged for reiterating the point I’ve been making for a while - large, heavy, inefficient EVs are a problem. Renewable energy is a precious resource and should be treated as such.
Lovely interviews. Thanks for the info. I lease a Renault Zoe, a smaller car. And Renault have worked hard to get the range up but keeping the size the same. We had a holiday to Cornwall last week and had a seamless drive with one charge stop...love it.
Totally agree. The whole big-car culture is kinda out of control. It makes no sense that everyone carries 5 chairs around with them. We want to tackle climate change, and EVs are part of the solution, but if all we do is make millions of giant pointless electric-powered cars like this, it won't help at all. The resources that go into them, the wear on the roads, the amount of tarmac required for parking etc all has an impact on the planet. In cities 90% of us should be on bikes, or mini-evs like that Twingo thing.
Well said! To many people miss this! Don't let the clinically car-dependent county of the USA dictate the conversation! Bikes > Electric trains > Electric cars
@@AndrewHelgeCox Well, why don’t you do this? Two years ago, I bought a Tesla model 3 with 3 other families in my neighbourhood. We park it centrally, book it by sending a chat message, charge it on one of our driveways (two houses have one), and simply share the costs between us. It works brilliantly. Sharing a car costs roughly 150 euro per month. Using it 10 cts per km.
@@hansc8433 that's fantastic! Think it could work in a lot of contexts. Kirsten Dirksen's latest video has a Portland food forest apartment complex with two shared leafs mentioned just in passing.
Not just the US, Canada too sadly. Pick-up trucks are absolutely huge here, and you see people driving them to the grocery store, or dropping the kids off at school! North America’s wide open spaces seem to lend themselves to monstrous vehicles in people’s minds, even though there’s really no good reason for it in many cases.
The large size of the Ioniq 5 is a decision point for me. Question: Why don't we ever hear this same complaint about the Model 3, which is slightly longer and wider? Context: My partner and I have a Niro PHEV as our only car (living in BC Canada) and we are considering trading in for a full EV. The size of the Niro is ideal, but some features of the Ioniq 5 are very appealing.
Having test driven a lot of electric cars in the last month or so, the Model 3 seems much better packaged than other EVs - big boot (narrow aperture, though). Model 3 is a full seven centimeters narrower than an Ioniq 5, but around 6cm longer. It's the width that kills you, though. If only the BMW i3 had another three inches in the wheelbase + rear legroom. It would be a perfect car for us then, but as it is we just can't fit the family in one. They are a full 11cm narrower than an Ioniq 5 if you do fit, though.
Thanks@@AlastairMaw. My websearch gave 1933mm for the model 3 and clearly that'snot correct. Another one gives Model 3=1860mm, Ioniq 5=1890mm (Niro=1805mm). Width is definitely the main concern. I guess I'll just have to wait until they show up here and see how it feels.
@@OscarFelixKlein you need to include the mirrors IMO, which your measurements do not. Model 3 is 1850mm without, 2089mm with. Ioniq 5 is 1890mm without, 2152mm with.
@@AlastairMaw "If only the BMW i3 had another three inches in the wheelbase + rear legroom. It would be a perfect car for us then, but as it is we just can't fit the family in one."- This is what led me to the Renault Zoe because it was just 8cm longer but a million times better packaged. 80L more boot size with the sacrifice of no froot and 5 normal doors. Headroom is quite bad at around 904mm at the front and 826 in the rear compared to the i3's 1007mm/946mm. You do envy i3 drivers though because the interior is so much nicer up front.
@@dot7107 In rookie Jack’s defence, he’s young & with that often comes arrogance, over confidence and trying to be funny….like all of us have probably experienced at his age…if he learns from the pro Robert and is open minded, he will be fine…..👍🏻☺️🇳🇿Kia Kaha From Aotearoa Team🇳🇿
What I'd love is a classic American two seater like a trans am, t top or convertible. Good range, fast charging, AWD. Long classic hood but there's trunk space under it. That'd be a great car.
Loving a car is the problem - it is a tool to travel IF needed. While they remain a status symbol there will be no "saving the environment". But what do I know. I am sure your dream car will be available soon, and at least it is not a SUV.
it is indeed insanity that people buy these huge SUVs to drive them around in places like London. Going electric isn't enough, downsizing is not only the best for the environment but also just the plain right thing to do.
I do agree, to a point, for 40% its a status symbol, the others, they have a large family, do a lot of extracurricular activities that need the space. granted London is still set up for small cars, but if you only spend 10 hours a week in London, why limit your vehicle to a Mini type ?
@@pHD77 This is why a good Rapid charging infrastructure with plenty of redundancy is so important. You don't need massive batteries, if you can rely on finding a working fast charger every few miles. 40-50kWh packs that can charge at 150kW would be more than adequate for the vast majority of drivers. It's a 20 minute charging break for every 2.5 to 3 hours of motorway driving.
Everyone has a choice. Why buy the car and then complain that it’s too big?! Also, not everyone has several cars so maybe having one that can do/accommodate more things makes more sense
Back in the 70's when I did up a house in the UK I took advantage of cheap North Sea gas. I did my own plumbing, electricity and gas installations, I just had to get them inspected before they were switched on :) When I came back to Australia I found I could not even do my own plumbing!!!
It's really nice to listen to someone who knows what they're on about answer intelligent questions and queries about what's going on. Thank-you Fully Charged.
It was pointed out to us by our electrician when we went totally electric, that we need to have our gas meter taken away to avoid standing charge, obvious one but we hadn't twigged.
@@edc1569 Like everything in the world it's not a straight forward answer, we were running our heat pump all winter without a scrap of insulation in the house waiting for the UK government's non grant scheme for insulation, we didn't get it so now we have a fully insulated grade A epc certificate. I think it will cost us more, despite having solar as well, We have saved nearly three tons of carbon in a year . This government has been instrumental in putting back climate helping schemes they have killed of the solar panel industry in favour of the power industry, it's all Kermit the frog and Miss Piggy muppet nonsense.
@@timbartellselsdon Agree totally - insulate before just burning fuel to warm, even if it is sustainably generated. The government is supporting heating and generation rather than helping us all cut down on waste which must be the long term sensible goal.
So BP Pulse provide a sheltered environment for commercial drivers to charge. Meanwhile we private EV owners have to get soaked connecting up to the publicly available chargers!
It's nice to know that my monthly subscription is allowing BP to install chrges that Im not allowed to use. To paraphrase a song ' I going to be reviewing the situation' regarding my membership.
As an ex Brit I can understand your rant on the traffic in the UK and the lack of need for large vehicles. I’ve lived well outside of a town in a forest region of Québec until recently and a large vehicle was very useful, especially in winter when getting in and out of a small low cars on icy surfaces is a receipt for an accidents. The supermarket, builders merchant, etc weren’t just down road and a once a week trip of 200 kilometres to do all our shopping wouldn’t fit into the Kona I now drive.
Yup - but I think bobby made it pretty clear that he was talking about SUV use in major cities... SUVs have their place (and it sounds like that place is near you :p), but inner-cities is not it.
Worth noting that this kind of huge, sprawling car based living is a North American construct. Most cities and regions there have been designed at the behest of the car industry - incredibly wide roads, shops and restaurants spaced miles apart, huge swathes of surface parking, lack of pavements etc. This whole setup is not environmentally friendly, it enforces car dependency. Many of these places could be made much more compact and pedestrian friendly, negating the need for so many car trips.
@@adsheff True, but things are changing, slowly at times, but changing. As old buildings are being demolished with no plans for new constructions our Municipalité are landscaping, as years ago they would leave a desolate space. Plus, environmental issues are overtaking business needs.
I saw an Ioniq 5 in the metal yesterday. Honestly, it didn't strike me as being larger than your average sedan. Perhaps a SLIGHTLY higher ride position, and a nice roomy hatch, but "SUV" is the LAST word that would cross my mind. It's a somewhat stretched and slightly lifted Golf. If you could get every Chevy Suburban-driving American soccer mom to drive an Ioniq 5 instead you'd have quite the coup. It's NOT a "big car". It's a reasonable size.
It may _look_ like a standard hatchback in terms of styling, but it's 12.5cm wider than a VW Golf and 38cm longer. That's a very sizeable difference. It's about the same size as a Volvo XC60. Most people would call that an SUV.
Bear in mind that Robert was talking about London - where the 'classic' 60's mini was a reasonable sized car designed to fit the average road widths, etc... there are 'roads' in London that the Ioniq 5 wouldn't even fit into if it drove with wheels on the pavement, etc.
@@davidsommen1324 Maybe, or maybe just drive one sized appropriate (such as the original Fiats, etc - which were built/sized for those roads). Personally, I'd have to drive (and/or rely on public transport) due to mobility issues preventing me from walking far or using 2-wheeled transport :/
Yes, I absolutely agree. But we also need Emma to be left to do her work at EnergyUK so we mustn't be greedy/selfish in our demand for that leader's time. :) :) :)
Great show! Emma is really on top of her stuff. Very professional. Can you tell us what is happening with the development of tidal power - that never drops like the wind has recently. So many wind farms but very little news of Tidal recently - I think the last time I heard anything was your report from the Orkneys.
Hi Roger, I'll allow myself to weigh in here. I'm obviously not the person you're asking but I do know a little about the tidal and wave energy projects in Denmark through the past 15 years, so I'll hope you'll forgive me meddling. We've had several deployments of different test platforms for harnessing both tidal and wave energy. The results so far are a bit disappointing, unfortunately. The tech works but due to practical, maintenance and efficiency issues, so far, none of them have proven to be strong enough to further develop. Simply put, the issues observed made the projects unlikely to ever be commercially viable. Especially tidal power has some great advantages in that it's reliable as clock work - a feature that neither wind nor solar will never be able to mimic. Unfortunately, that in itself doesn't make it commercially viable. So, as of right now, in Denmark at least, not much is happening. I do hope that others have had better luck.
This (price hikes) does regularly happen to countries that e.g. transit the Russian natgas, especially when they start debating separating themselves from it.
A lot of info = Brilliant Emma is amazing professional, specially with info for people without huge budgets. I do have a request, please do more news. Best regards from France.
Well, it's obviously not a small car but it's not far off the footprint of a Model 3 - except it's arguably more practical with the hatch. Last time I drove through London I did it in a Fiat 500e. Now that was much more of a treat... apart for the squashed passengers in the back of course!
What's it like in a car park? I test drove one last week, but didn't try the local car park. I loved it, but it is quite wide, and the turning circle is not brilliant. The motor also seemed to whine at 70mph, where it otherwise had been silent.
Great interview with Emma P. Always very interesting stuff and eye opening. It explains a lot. Great to be able to hear from such bunch of knowledgable people through you guys.
I attempted to cycle from Crawley to central London and back last week. On the way back the traffic was so bad and the drivers so murderous I ended up getting the train home from Croydon.
I really like the Ionic 5, just wish it had been shrunken down to a compact hatchback size. Unfortunately global markets seem to prefer SUV sized vehicles to smaller cars, such a shame.
I was pretty heartbroken when I actually stood next to it, 30cm shorter and 10cm narrower and it would have been fine. Have to wait for the shrunken down e-GMP platform, maybe a Kona, better an i-series estate. That MG estate is very tempting…
It's a fair comment that the car is too big for many in the European market, (but it does tow), disappointed that the efficiency is not at Niro or Kona level even though those were built on ICE platforms (although they are smaller cars). Kia had a smaller new model Seltos but that was not a BEV.. In Canada /USA most of the new models are all that size of car -Tesla's VW ID4, (no ID3) Mach-E, soon the Ford 1/2 ton electric. Other than Tesla the manufacturers don't have towing packages for BEV here. (People will buy a truck or a bigger ICE car.)
@@LiamE69 We won't even see the 5 and EV6 for sale this year in Canada (only in a few provinces BC,QC, ON). You can order them if you don't need to know the final sale price. This will take years...
Tesla was started and is run by software people. Everyone else are car companies paying tier 1 suppliers to deliver their software. This is complete anathema to "integration"
I really would love to see a reasonably priced small EV. Reasonable meaning under 20k or even 15k. I live in a terrace house so the charging network needs to be improved. I’d be happy to pay for a charger lead channel to be placed into the pavement.
Audit your mileage. It's quite possible that you park in places and for periods which could easily charge your car simply while "doing other things" Example. "Weekly shop"? 45 minutes?
Not quite within your definition of 'reasonable (or 'small', I imagine), but I've just ordered a new MG5 EV that has 250 mile range and it cost £22,600 through (the affinity scheme). This is less than most petrol/diesel cars in the same class and I conservatively calculate that, in comparison with a similar diesel estate, it will pay for itself in fuel, tax and servicing savings over the next 14 years, so effectively it's free. Astonishing value.
Great video as usual. I agree about the issue of large SUVs being a plague on the roads. I looked into this though, and the footprint of the Ioniq 5 is very similar to the Tesla 3. 6cm shorter but 4cm wider. It is about 16cm taller though (which will effect efficiency, no doubt), but that doesn't effect congestion on the roads like a huge SUV would. Interestingly, the Tesla 6 footprint is almost identical to a Toyota Landcruiser. If we're going to be critical, I think the footprint is probably the main issue, and it is comparable to others. I don't think this is the car to make the stance on the growing waistline of cars The issue going forward is that to get the range that people want, batteries are either going to need to get smaller, or cars need to get bigger. I'd love to have something the size of a VW Golf with 500km range and good performance, but unfortunately this is a long way off.
Congestion on the roads has nothing to do with the size of the vehicle and everything to do with the number of vehicles. If anything, the kind of tiny vehicles that encourage people to take the car when they could be walking or cycling are more of a problem. Of course, large petrol/diesel SUVs have particular issues with fuel efficiency but I think we should go easy on people who are just buying a family size car. Personally I prefer an estate, but the market is not really providing.
I go into my “down town” once every few months. I cannot afford to have a “city car” and a “county car”. I am also a man of generous size, and a Mini or similar sized vehicle will not cut it for me. My i3 is about as small as I can go. I also am the primary care giver for my 90yo mother. A larger car is less challenging to her achy joints and muscles. The closest I live to a London sized city is Washington DC, and it is over two hours away. So I can’t agree with you regarding car size and not needing a large car.
Excellent episode, Robert. I loved the interview, and the way Emma handle the interruption was impressive. A couple of points to add. Some years ago an earlier iteration of this Tory "government" decided that £720M over 10 years was too much to pay for the upkeep of our Strategic Natural Gas Storage facility. IIRC it could store 3 months supply and was under the North Sea. So they closed it. Knobheads! I think we now have only 3 days storage. I have a dual fuel supply from EDF. Although I had contemplated changing to Octopus or one of the other smaller suppliers, in the end it wasn't going to make enough difference to be worth it. I'm single, retired and live in Sheltered Housing on a council estate. I told EDF all this and they put me on a special tariff for older and vulnerable people called Safeguard Assist Capped. So far none of my charges have gone up. I have a Smart Meter so I can see how much I use and how much it costs, almost in real time. It's given me a lot of peace of mind in a frankly stupid situation.
Brilliant programme Robert, loved every minute. I totally agree with everything, particularly your point about big cars. You didn't mention the Citroen Ami being available in Blightly, but the point still stands. I would love to see a much smaller car, maybe our Chinese friends can help? Why does that thought worry me?
I agree the size of cars is crazy. I had an Audi Q5 and found it never fitted well into car parking spaces and thought about the car size and how often I needed this size of car. I moved from diesel to The Kia E Niro and love my car and not having to visit a petrol station. Great interview with Emma and I love seeing guests showing their human side! She had great information and it was fantastic hearing that we need to continue with what we started in Solar panels, battery storage and EV ownership.
Just discovered your channel. Love the material. 19 miles in 4 hour's. I feel your pain. I recently went to New York for the first time. From my hotel in Manhattan to Chinatown 3.9 miles away, took 1 hour and 27 minute's on a Friday. Any-hoo, I really like the Ioniq and I'm keeping my eye on it.
01:05 Does anyone know based on queuing theory or whatever whether putting people into smaller vehicles would reduce traffic jams appreciably, holding all other factors the same? Based on Robert's large cars are insane rant.
I think he's referring to the fact we should be looking at more emobility such as ebikes etc. But we first need the infrastructure to allow that. Cycling in London is pretty dangerous
if there is a que of 132 cars and every car is 4.5 meter long (ioniq5 size-ish), would make you a further distance away from the front than if every car was 3.6 meter long (VW E-up size-ish). if that is what you are asking?
@@DarkDutch007 Ignoring the space between the cars , if all the cars in that row were 3.6m instead of 4.5 the last car would be about 119m closer to the front, or about 20% closer. But I suspect that like adding lanes to a highway, making more room on the roads would only induce more people to drive, and traffic would end up similarily bad at rush hours.
Hi Robert, The recent issue with the recent issue with fuel shortages and prices has made me get rid of my Mercedes E class diesel hybrid which is only 6 months old is going next month and replacing it is the ioniq 5 , I’m a taxi driver in london and the size for me and my passengers is a lot better than the E class , boot size in the Ioniq 5 far larger , so for me a larger all electric car is perfect 👍🏻 leg room greater , most people don’t need that size electric car but for me definitely and the economic benefits from fuel to congestion charging etc etc
Sadly, once again, Australia has priced the Ioniq 5 ridiculously high. It's so much more expensive than the Middle 3 SR and the Kona/Niro is about the same price. It amazes me and annoys me at the same time!
No car is a good idea in central London. Just ban all private vehicles from the central zone from X (2030?) just so people can have time to adjust. Public transport, taxis, e-bikes, etc. can cope.
I am quite surprised by Roberts comments on the Hyundai ioniq 5. He didn't make such comments about other big cars you have driven. Top of the range Mercedes, for instance. There isn't that many small cars to choose from. I choose this car because mainly the boot size, which I need for my mobility scooter. As far a the difficulty contacting Blue Link to your phone, I had no problems and I am sixty-nine. I would give this car to ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐ Really enjoy you videos.
Although it's an SUV, I like the styling of the Ioniq, having been said before, a similar side profile to the classic Lancia Delta Integrale - something like one of those electrified would be cool! - but probably not as safe!
@@ItalianRain2 it's not big its bigger than it looks in a photo because it looks like a metro - but its sized like a Qashqai / Tiguan ? not a X5 or ranger rover sport, it;s annoying there are no touran / zafira style MPV EV's which its the same size as but less boxy rear so no third row/hugh family sized cargo area.
A friend has the original Ioniq Electric and it's by any measure the best car I've ever driven. The only problem is that it's a bit old now, and some more range would be useful. So he has been looking into newer Ioniq iterations, but has noticed the same problem as you: they are too big and consume way too much electricity per km. And all the other newer electric vehicles have the same problem. So he really hasn't had any options - the only thing he could improve, from his standpoint, is the range, at the cost of efficiency, looks, suitability for his purpose, etc.
I agree completely with you. Yesterday I saw an Ioniq 5 in the metal for the first time and I thought: what a huge SUV!!! Hope they start making small hatchbacks soon!
I don't think Bobby's going to be happy until we're all driving around in tiny boxes. Some of us have kids, pets, elderly relatives, work duties, all requiring a large car weekly if not daily. Driving around in London doesn't make sense in any size of car. I think the whole 'this car is too big for you' discussion is starting to grind my gears. It's also funny how estate cars have been excused from this argument. Estate cars are huge. As I've said previously, sell your house Bob, it's too big for just two people - you're both taking up too much land. Get yourselves into a studio flat and live more efficiently and sustainably.
If you need a big car then you need a big car, but there are plenty of people driving round in SUVs who don't really need them that's the point. I've always had small cars for my family because I could and just rented a van for times I needed to do dump runs or whatever. But not everyone has that option so I understand why lots might get bigger cars. I have a friend who drives a huge ford galaxy around mainly for two people and a dog, but she's convinced she needs a massive car? And I do feel Rob is a bit hypocritical as he has spent many years driving a Tesla s around.
Depends on the oil refinery, but they do self-power actually from parts of their refined products, as well as using electricity. Some even run directly from crude oil(!) though mostly older refineries/where other infrastructure is poor.
Yes! I already have. I purchased a 2010 Imiev 8 months ago for $8000 AUD. Battery is at two thirds of the original capacity, so I get about 80 kilometers on a single charge which easily covers about 99% of my driving needs. The 3 year old 13.2 kW solar systems powers it for free, saving me about $2000 AUD on petrol a year. The system powers the house, saving us about $2000 AUD on electricity bills, and still exports enough power to the grid for AGL to pay us $2000 AUD a year. We also have a 12kWh battery back up system so our Solar powers the whole house at night time.
Loved seeing Emma again, thanks for the reassurance about the coming price hikes and what to do if they get problematic. Your dear little assistant was very sweet and Robert's delight was cute too! Oh yes I agree with you about the increasing size of these vehicles. We've always had Skodas, don't believe in badge snobbery and they've always done the job. The Enyaq seemed very exciting and I pronounced it the car I'd love to have if I ever had the budget for it. By crikey, having seen it the other day, it's enormous though! No problem for me driving it as an ex bus driver but like you say, fitting it through crowded streets and parking would be a nightmare. All I want is a car with the same amount of boot space as my Roomster, about 450 litres to fit my stealth mobility vehicle in or a big dog crate. How is something like that not being built? Think it'll be the eNiro unless something else comes along in the next couple of years.
I would only consider a small suv with awd because I live in Canada and we have kids. We tried the station wagon route and it’s just not quite there for dealing with snow and ice in the prairies, where snow removal doesn’t happen.
I listened to the podcast an this video, I feel you’re frustration at the world. I love cycling but have all but stopped due to abusive motorists EV or not. It’s not rational to travel across very little of London at 4 mph in a vehicle but people are addicted lazy and selfish. QED, the behaviour resulting in the fuel shortage. Hypocritically, I can’t agree with ride sharing notions unless you can solve sharing with other peoples standards. I rented a vehicle recently which was surface sanitised with in an inch out it’s life. However, the less seen contact surfaces were covered in god knows what sticky gloop. The vehicle stank of BO and cigarettes. I don’t know the way forward but we have a long way to go.
I love your honesty, Robert. And I agree with you. However, if you were to live in a remote area in a big country (US, Canada, Russia) where you have snow and strong winds, believe me, the size of a car matters.
So basically you need a car for every use. 1 for when you are driving alone. (Smaller car) 1 for when you have the whole family (Car with a wide backseat for 3 kids) 1 for when you are moving stuff about (Van style car with a lot of cargo space) etc etc I guess the main reason someone would be driving a SUV in the city, is because they sometimes need a SUV, and they can not afford, nor do the really need 2 or more cars, so the one they have has to be used, also for places where it is maybe less suited. But hey, if Robert thinks the solution to polution and congestion and problems finding parking spaces is to buy more cars, well hey....He is entitled to his opinion....
I think robot cars will eventually help with this. You just hail the kind of car you need from an app and the nearest available one drives to you in 1 or 2 minutes. The cars could have usage rate like >80 % compared to today's rate where personally owned cars are parked 95 % of the time.
Let's be clear on the point that Robert makes: SUVs will be produced en masse because people demand them ... and so often (in the UK) those who demand SUVs never (or very very seldom) have need of them. The situation we really don't want is for folks to "have to" 'demand' SUVs because those are pretty much the cars on the market.
@@aidanapword But the fact of the matter is that he is talking about SUV's not being needed in cities and linking it with congestion. Honestly, the congestion is not going to be any better or worse, if everyone bought a Peugeot 108 instead. Also...What do you know, if people need them or not. My next car is probably gonna be a SUV of some kind. The main reason i have is, i want a car that i get in to instead of sit down in. That alone, could be the reason these people opt for a SUV.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz ok so you have a reason for wanting an SUV that isn't just conspicuous expenditure. Not all people have reasons things beyond "because an SUV is the best (for showing off my status)". I think Robert is trying to highlight that if everyone wants an SUV then those who don't want an SUV get left without a choice or ... At the very least have to wait many more years for suitable tech to come to market. Your view is that an SUV is better for you. Like I said, that's fine. At the same time there are a lot of people out there who deliberately do not want an SUV because for them it is more important to maintain decorum (that is: their opinion of what appropriate behaviour is) or don't want a big thing on their driveway, or want a more agile car, or other reasons. There is some backlash here (and some of it justified) from people who think ab SUV is brash and inappropriate on UK roads ... Anyone who has driven a smaller car more appropriate (even) just to their needs and been pushed about by the Chelsea Tractor driving obnoxiously personalised plate totting entitlement Muppet driving way too aggressively ...
@@aidanapword But what do you want to do about it. Do you suggest the market begin making a lot of "non-SUV" cars if there is not a lot of demand for them ? The main problem here is that Robert (And you) seem to want to tell people what they need and try and push them into buying what YOU and Robert thinks is an appropriate car. I would also like affordable electric cars and i would also like for the manufacturers to make "all sort of cars" but in a market where people want SUV's and you can not make all variants at once, would it not be wise to focus on the most profitable market first. MG has the EV5, Dacia has the Spring, Tesla has model S and Model 3, and so on, those are not SUV's so there are options for people that do not want an SUV. Honestly i dont really care what type of car they make or what type of car people drive, i just want them to get cheaper so that they will be profitable with my driving pattern and the amount of miles i drive every year. Most of these SUV's that are on the market are not even that huge, i have 3 kids, and the backseat would be really crammed in most of these supposedly large SUV's. Also his rant about a big SUV, and only one occupant....I have a stationwagon and 90% of the time it is just me, alone, driving to work.. Those 90% of the time i could easily make do with a lot smaller car, but where would i put the kids the 10% of the time, where i need to bring them with me somewhere. I bet the enviromental effect of me buying a second, smaller car, would not be in the enviroments favor, as it would mean that i would have a second car that has cost "pollution" to make, without ever being able to make back in less pollution, what it cost to build. (In reality we do have 2 cars and the second one is a smaller car, but this is the car my wife drives to work, so in essence we would now have to have 3 cars instead of 2) In general i really hate when people feel the need to tell other people what THEY think the other people need....Unless what they have is REALLY gone overboard....Like a guy in the US i saw, that bought a 3 ton 9 seater 3+ liter V6 "truck" for his wife, where he stated, she would only use it for school runs and grocery shopping.
Robert hit the nail on the head! I own 2 ICE cars , one for me, one for the wife, would love to drive EV but the current selection is obsessed with over sized, expensive models. I have 4 children, 3 still often at home so a Zoe sized car is out of the question. I need decent range - over 200 miles in all weathers and decent charging speeds. Council recently made a big thing of installing ev chargers in each town- each town got 3 22kw chargers! Went to see a brand new house on a new estate - 150 houses, not a solar panel in sight and all gas boilers! My fridge, TV, dishwasher have energy ratings, it’s about time they were introduced on EVs. Apologies for the rant!
You have a driveway big enough for two cars? If yes, then the public infrastructure available is irrelevant. If, however, you don't ... then I would say that the price of a home big enough for a family of 6 (with a driveway) in the UK has to be at least part of the problem ... no?
@@bordersw1239 I'm not going to look up every price but I'd say the average was around 40k before taxes and tax incentives. If you buy em used you could find em for 30k with around 30k miles.
Aah, the joys of living in London. I prefer my NIU scooter (recommended by Fully Charged) in the the city, I can do 24 miles into & out of London in about an hour. No congestion charge, free parking and cheap to run. Larger vehicles have their place, on a road trip, not in the city
I own a BMW i3 and absolutely love it but it is compromised in many ways: tiny boot and just about enough space for 2 smaller adults. It is also insanely expensive new.
The BMW i3 was trash lol . It was only build to shut up the goverment and collect tax mony . It was totaly overprice to make sure nobody woud buy it . So the can sell you a fule car.
Hole E shit! 30.56 km in four hours? And you have trains and busses that (even though Londoners think that they suck these days) would TOTALLY be loved in Cape Town, Johannesburg, Durban.
Thanks Fully Charged, casting light on complexity and depth of reliance on fossil fuels. Co2 usage as a refrigerant and to knock out animals for slaughter, the fossil fuel industry has wriggled into every aspect of our lives. There is much to be done in shining light into those dark corners of our terrible economic system.
On the upside, plenty of markets for 'Carbon Capture' systems to sell to, if they can get it working effectively (currently uses too much power for capture, and thus too expensive compared to FF CO2)
Thank you Robert and the team. The next prize, could only dream about going on a shoot with the FC team be like going with the Grand Tour team, mind you I don't live in the UK so definitely won't be me. I'd love to meet Andy, Jack, Helen, Maddie, Robert(obviously) and the behind the scenes crew someday. Love your channel as I have since the very first pilot episode so many years ago now.
Really enjoyed this show, very informative. Regarding big cars, it’s not just electric models, a lot of diesel and petrol cars are enormous, I’m sure some family’s need the space a big car provides, but a lot of the time they are only occupied by one or two people at a time. It’s time manufacturers started putting as much effort in to smaller cars as they do with there bigger cars, especially when it comes to equipment and comfort levels.
We need telescopic cars - it can be squeezed down when there is only one passenger, but stretched out when a load is to be moved. Much less hassle than a trailer, too!
That's a shortage driving prices up, currently... I think the link to Nat. Gas is that whilst wedo have a stock of already-refined petrol & deseasal, future refining will be more expensive due to the higher electricity costs... meaning that even when the supply issues at the pump are resolved, prices may stay high because it's costing more to produce.
Traffic Jam is a Jam makes no difference Big Car, Small Car or SUV etc take the Public transit (Train, Subway, Bus) or Ride a Bike.. that's what I do when traveling into the City! ..Save on Parking and Gas! ..City Driving is ridiculous !
Do you think the current rise in gas prices & petrol shortages in the UK will help transition more people over to EVs? Tell us what you think in the comments below....
Increasingly volatile fossil fuel prices ahead will undoubtedly speed the transition.
(Disappointed in the use of the term "Green Hydrogen "...... No such thing!)
I’m a courier. My current van cost £6,500. Off EBay. 2 years ago. During the height of the pandemic it earned me £2,000 a week. It carries 1,500kg as if it’s empty. Now due to redeployment it earns me £1,500 a week. I cover up to 280 miles a day. I saw a DPD electric sprinter yesterday, it costs £68,000 plus vat. It’s fully charged range is 70 miles. It’s load capacity it 767 KG. None of this adds up.
@@BourbonISvegan You are talking extremes here. There are plenty of less expensive electric vans available such as the e-dispatch that you can buy or lease for under £400 a month. Subtract your ICE fuel costs (what - at least £200 a month?), tax, maintenance, repairs and then how much are you paying a month? Also you won't be able to drive diesel vans in many cities over the next few years due to Clean Air Zones.
I heard on BBC World Business Report that EV enquiries have already spiked in the last couple of weeks.
Even the cheapest 💩 box electric car is about £7000 so no not until they are about £300 lol 😂 that’s all most hard working folk can realistically afford.
Emma killed it! Love her being so professional, focused and still able to handle everything going on around her. Well done!
Well she does have a masters in English from Oxford University, so no real surprise.
@@RichardEricCollins - you are, of course, correct.
But Emma showed so much more than just an excellent command of the English Language - astute, calm, thoughtful (and sensitive), forward thinking, powerhouse in a world so assailed by the FUDsters.
Don't want to put words in Robert's mouth but I wholeheartedly agree that it is really reassuring to see calm thought by the leaders in the UK energy space. Especially at this time.
@@aidanapword Don't forget she is pretty too !
@@aidanapword Shame that EnergyUK are not leaders in anything.
@@robertsilver1296 i do wonder if they have any significant impact on policymaking, or simply another meaningless quango
I'm always very impressed when someone can handle interruptions without losing their train of thought.
She handles MPs confused questions. Children must be a breeze ;-)
@@tcroft2165 All true. Are you, though, suggesting MPs and children have commonalities in the approach required? Just asking. ;)
@@aidanapword I'd say no. Kids are just curious, while MPs are generally not just confused but trying to figure out how to twist the words for their own benefit.
I thought that initially but I think he just had a glitchy connection, you can see his video isn't great. It's hard to have a video call and not interrupt if you're lagging behind.
This interview was really interesting. It's good to know what's going on in the energy market.
No disrespect to Robert, I love the content... However I do wish sometimes he would stop trying to preempt the answer while asking the question and just let the interviewee speak.
Just sayin...
Unfortunately that's a bad habit of many tv presenters these days. Look at that Mark Austin on Sky News , he's dreadful - "questions" far longer than the answers.
This wasn't his finest interview. He seemed a bit too eager to talk. Part of the joy of Robert is the excitement he brings to a conversation but the balance was definitely off a little in this interview. Must be hard to relax when you work as hard as he appears to!!
I think it was more not knowing exactly who is talking next due to the delay in the call - everyone has done it.
Completely agree: Robert is charming but needs to form a succinct question, ask it, and then listen . . .
@@patrickjoneill5836 I'll have to take your word for it... I don't watch Murdoch's Sky. 👍
Emma’s assistant is so well behaved. If that happens to me with my son… it’s a UFC battle
Emma can communicate UK energy position in 10 minutes despite her assistant!, brilliant interviews that make you chuckle and informed typical Fully Charged and more of the same please.
Come to Copenhagen or Aarhus in Denmark, Robert. Cities are made for people, driving around is annoying. I bought a VW id3 after I got convinced by you, but we would never drive it in the city because is way easier to move in a bike
More people in the (western) world would use a bicycle if they felt safe using it.
Denmark, the Netherlands and luckily more and more places in the world have or is working on safe bicycle infrastructure.
As the other comment says the UK needs a safe cycling network , it's self correcting ofcourse the less cars the safer cycling is ,, but we don't have good cycle network here to kick start less car use .
Everyone knows how much fun it is to drive a bike in the rain or on icy streets or in the snow. What a bunch of twits!
@@mikedx2706 If the bike lane is full of ice then its a maintaing problem not a wetter problem and riding in rain doesnt matter you can just equip your self with the right cloths . Its just saying i want to drive my care becouse i want to ve dependent the rest of my live by the care .
@@mikedx2706 I cycle year round, in all weathers and while there are some days that are bloody rubbish, most of the time the weather is ok, even in winter. A little rain isn't a big deal, just when it's really heavy or windy. Cold isn't a big deal as you can wear this magical invention called a coat. People think the weather is always terrible in winter but its not true most of the time.
Emma was a star....even being talked over by Robert...he really must learn to listen to his guests and give them time to say their piece. I like him but this is not the first clip I have seen where he interrupts his guest....especially one as knowledgeable as Emma.
Please take note Robert.
100%
I thought that initially but I think he just had a glitchy connection, you can see his video isn't great. It's hard to have a video call and not interrupt if you're lagging behind.
Great to see Emma back on, such a great interview.
Thank you Fully Charged for reiterating the point I’ve been making for a while - large, heavy, inefficient EVs are a problem. Renewable energy is a precious resource and should be treated as such.
So you drive large Petro truck?
EVs convert over 77% of the electrical energy from the grid to power at the wheels. Conventional gasoline vehicles only convert about 12%-30%
Lovely interviews. Thanks for the info. I lease a Renault Zoe, a smaller car. And Renault have worked hard to get the range up but keeping the size the same. We had a holiday to Cornwall last week and had a seamless drive with one charge stop...love it.
Meaningless statement - you don't say where from!
@@hamshackleton hi sorry. From Hertfordshire. Over 300 miles
Wish there was a market for Renault in the states but i know there's not really a profit margin for them here
Fascinating convo with Emma. Well done Bobby.
Totally agree. The whole big-car culture is kinda out of control. It makes no sense that everyone carries 5 chairs around with them. We want to tackle climate change, and EVs are part of the solution, but if all we do is make millions of giant pointless electric-powered cars like this, it won't help at all. The resources that go into them, the wear on the roads, the amount of tarmac required for parking etc all has an impact on the planet. In cities 90% of us should be on bikes, or mini-evs like that Twingo thing.
Well said! To many people miss this! Don't let the clinically car-dependent county of the USA dictate the conversation!
Bikes > Electric trains > Electric cars
In cities, the cars should be shared amenities that anyone can walk up to and drive, as well as being electric.
@@AndrewHelgeCox Well, why don’t you do this? Two years ago, I bought a Tesla model 3 with 3 other families in my neighbourhood. We park it centrally, book it by sending a chat message, charge it on one of our driveways (two houses have one), and simply share the costs between us. It works brilliantly. Sharing a car costs roughly 150 euro per month. Using it 10 cts per km.
@@hansc8433 that's fantastic! Think it could work in a lot of contexts. Kirsten Dirksen's latest video has a Portland food forest apartment complex with two shared leafs mentioned just in passing.
@@jarrlist7424 should add to that walking > cycling > public transport > cars
Fully charged - ioniq 5 is a massive massive massive suv
Entire USA looking at their Chevy tahoe and sub urban - this is a ridiculously small car 😅
Not just the US, Canada too sadly. Pick-up trucks are absolutely huge here, and you see people driving them to the grocery store, or dropping the kids off at school! North America’s wide open spaces seem to lend themselves to monstrous vehicles in people’s minds, even though there’s really no good reason for it in many cases.
The large size of the Ioniq 5 is a decision point for me. Question: Why don't we ever hear this same complaint about the Model 3, which is slightly longer and wider? Context: My partner and I have a Niro PHEV as our only car (living in BC Canada) and we are considering trading in for a full EV. The size of the Niro is ideal, but some features of the Ioniq 5 are very appealing.
Having test driven a lot of electric cars in the last month or so, the Model 3 seems much better packaged than other EVs - big boot (narrow aperture, though). Model 3 is a full seven centimeters narrower than an Ioniq 5, but around 6cm longer. It's the width that kills you, though. If only the BMW i3 had another three inches in the wheelbase + rear legroom. It would be a perfect car for us then, but as it is we just can't fit the family in one. They are a full 11cm narrower than an Ioniq 5 if you do fit, though.
Thanks@@AlastairMaw. My websearch gave 1933mm for the model 3 and clearly that'snot correct. Another one gives Model 3=1860mm, Ioniq 5=1890mm (Niro=1805mm). Width is definitely the main concern. I guess I'll just have to wait until they show up here and see how it feels.
We have one and the larges size of model3 is challenging.
@@OscarFelixKlein you need to include the mirrors IMO, which your measurements do not. Model 3 is 1850mm without, 2089mm with. Ioniq 5 is 1890mm without, 2152mm with.
@@AlastairMaw "If only the BMW i3 had another three inches in the wheelbase + rear legroom. It would be a perfect car for us then, but as it is we just can't fit the family in one."- This is what led me to the Renault Zoe because it was just 8cm longer but a million times better packaged. 80L more boot size with the sacrifice of no froot and 5 normal doors. Headroom is quite bad at around 904mm at the front and 826 in the rear compared to the i3's 1007mm/946mm. You do envy i3 drivers though because the interior is so much nicer up front.
🥰🎉🇳🇿So happy to have you back Robert, so humble, such a gentleman🥰🎉🇳🇿
Yeah, i hate that other dude, so fake. love u Robert 🥰😁
Humble? DF? Oh, I can't drive this in London, woe is me! Gimme a break. Tosser.
@@matt5441504 😂🥰Love & covid kisses to you too Matt🥰😂
@@dot7107 In rookie Jack’s defence, he’s young & with that often comes arrogance, over confidence and trying to be funny….like all of us have probably experienced at his age…if he learns from the pro Robert and is open minded, he will be fine…..👍🏻☺️🇳🇿Kia Kaha From Aotearoa Team🇳🇿
What I'd love is a classic American two seater like a trans am, t top or convertible. Good range, fast charging, AWD. Long classic hood but there's trunk space under it. That'd be a great car.
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Tesla roadster(2022est.), New cuda(2024est.), corvette (?est.) All in the works
MG CYBERSTER, okay it Chinese but but nothing perfect. But it seem to fit all your other requirements.
Loving a car is the problem - it is a tool to travel IF needed. While they remain a status symbol there will be no "saving the environment". But what do I know. I am sure your dream car will be available soon, and at least it is not a SUV.
it is indeed insanity that people buy these huge SUVs to drive them around in places like London. Going electric isn't enough, downsizing is not only the best for the environment but also just the plain right thing to do.
I do agree, to a point, for 40% its a status symbol, the others, they have a large family, do a lot of extracurricular activities that need the space. granted London is still set up for small cars, but if you only spend 10 hours a week in London, why limit your vehicle to a Mini type ?
I suspect that to get a satisfactory range out of an EV, you'll need the cars to be huge to accommodate the large battery packs.
@@pHD77 that is my thought exactly
@@pHD77 This is why a good Rapid charging infrastructure with plenty of redundancy is so important. You don't need massive batteries, if you can rely on finding a working fast charger every few miles. 40-50kWh packs that can charge at 150kW would be more than adequate for the vast majority of drivers. It's a 20 minute charging break for every 2.5 to 3 hours of motorway driving.
Everyone has a choice. Why buy the car and then complain that it’s too big?! Also, not everyone has several cars so maybe having one that can do/accommodate more things makes more sense
Most natural gas imported to the UK ist not from Russia, Quatar et al, but from Norway.
Back in the 70's when I did up a house in the UK I took advantage of cheap North Sea gas. I did my own plumbing, electricity and gas installations, I just had to get them inspected before they were switched on :) When I came back to Australia I found I could not even do my own plumbing!!!
@@robertsmart5600 In most european contries you are not allowed to do plumbing yourself anymore. Gas-instalations is a big no-no.
It's really nice to listen to someone who knows what they're on about answer intelligent questions and queries about what's going on. Thank-you Fully Charged.
It was pointed out to us by our electrician when we went totally electric, that we need to have our gas meter taken away to avoid standing charge, obvious one but we hadn't twigged.
How much more is the change costing you?
@@edc1569 Like everything in the world it's not a straight forward answer, we were running our heat pump all winter without a scrap of insulation in the house waiting for the UK government's non grant scheme for insulation, we didn't get it so now we have a fully insulated grade A epc certificate. I think it will cost us more, despite having solar as well, We have saved nearly three tons of carbon in a year . This government has been instrumental in putting back climate helping schemes they have killed of the solar panel industry in favour of the power industry, it's all Kermit the frog and Miss Piggy muppet nonsense.
@@timbartellselsdon Agree totally - insulate before just burning fuel to warm, even if it is sustainably generated. The government is supporting heating and generation rather than helping us all cut down on waste which must be the long term sensible goal.
So BP Pulse provide a sheltered environment for commercial drivers to charge. Meanwhile we private EV owners have to get soaked connecting up to the publicly available chargers!
It's nice to know that my monthly subscription is allowing BP to install chrges that Im not allowed to use. To paraphrase a song ' I going to be reviewing the situation' regarding my membership.
the parking fee there is £7/hour
Gonna have to be an ebike for me until l the market settles down and a good second hand market develops .
Great information from Emma; great CEO
As an ex Brit I can understand your rant on the traffic in the UK and the lack of need for large vehicles. I’ve lived well outside of a town in a forest region of Québec until recently and a large vehicle was very useful, especially in winter when getting in and out of a small low cars on icy surfaces is a receipt for an accidents. The supermarket, builders merchant, etc weren’t just down road and a once a week trip of 200 kilometres to do all our shopping wouldn’t fit into the Kona I now drive.
Yup - but I think bobby made it pretty clear that he was talking about SUV use in major cities... SUVs have their place (and it sounds like that place is near you :p), but inner-cities is not it.
Worth noting that this kind of huge, sprawling car based living is a North American construct. Most cities and regions there have been designed at the behest of the car industry - incredibly wide roads, shops and restaurants spaced miles apart, huge swathes of surface parking, lack of pavements etc. This whole setup is not environmentally friendly, it enforces car dependency. Many of these places could be made much more compact and pedestrian friendly, negating the need for so many car trips.
@@adsheff True, but things are changing, slowly at times, but changing. As old buildings are being demolished with no plans for new constructions our Municipalité are landscaping, as years ago they would leave a desolate space. Plus, environmental issues are overtaking business needs.
I saw an Ioniq 5 in the metal yesterday. Honestly, it didn't strike me as being larger than your average sedan. Perhaps a SLIGHTLY higher ride position, and a nice roomy hatch, but "SUV" is the LAST word that would cross my mind. It's a somewhat stretched and slightly lifted Golf. If you could get every Chevy Suburban-driving American soccer mom to drive an Ioniq 5 instead you'd have quite the coup. It's NOT a "big car". It's a reasonable size.
It may _look_ like a standard hatchback in terms of styling, but it's 12.5cm wider than a VW Golf and 38cm longer. That's a very sizeable difference. It's about the same size as a Volvo XC60. Most people would call that an SUV.
Europeans have distorted views on what constitutes "big". They're used to prancing around on tiny, narrow little roads and streets.
Bear in mind that Robert was talking about London - where the 'classic' 60's mini was a reasonable sized car designed to fit the average road widths, etc... there are 'roads' in London that the Ioniq 5 wouldn't even fit into if it drove with wheels on the pavement, etc.
@@logicalChimp Then perhaps of expecting that cars become smaller, don't drive a car in the city of an historic city like Rome, at all.
@@davidsommen1324 Maybe, or maybe just drive one sized appropriate (such as the original Fiats, etc - which were built/sized for those roads).
Personally, I'd have to drive (and/or rely on public transport) due to mobility issues preventing me from walking far or using 2-wheeled transport :/
Fascinating interview with Emma.
Emma is amazing. We need her more on the show. What a great person and expert.
Yes, I absolutely agree. But we also need Emma to be left to do her work at EnergyUK so we mustn't be greedy/selfish in our demand for that leader's time. :) :) :)
Great show! Emma is really on top of her stuff. Very professional. Can you tell us what is happening with the development of tidal power - that never drops like the wind has recently. So many wind farms but very little news of Tidal recently - I think the last time I heard anything was your report from the Orkneys.
Hi Roger,
I'll allow myself to weigh in here. I'm obviously not the person you're asking but I do know a little about the tidal and wave energy projects in Denmark through the past 15 years, so I'll hope you'll forgive me meddling.
We've had several deployments of different test platforms for harnessing both tidal and wave energy. The results so far are a bit disappointing, unfortunately.
The tech works but due to practical, maintenance and efficiency issues, so far, none of them have proven to be strong enough to further develop. Simply put, the issues observed made the projects unlikely to ever be commercially viable.
Especially tidal power has some great advantages in that it's reliable as clock work - a feature that neither wind nor solar will never be able to mimic.
Unfortunately, that in itself doesn't make it commercially viable.
So, as of right now, in Denmark at least, not much is happening.
I do hope that others have had better luck.
This (price hikes) does regularly happen to countries that e.g. transit the Russian natgas, especially when they start debating separating themselves from it.
Really interesting subject and lady to listen to. Totally agree we need to be a more self sufficient country when it comes to energy.
Very refreshing point of view. Keep going with this format. I love your reviews but videos like this are even more important.
Really excellent show, your guest, Emma, provided some great insights on the longer term. Great work as always.
A lot of info = Brilliant
Emma is amazing professional, specially with info for people without huge budgets.
I do have a request, please do more news.
Best regards from France.
Well, it's obviously not a small car but it's not far off the footprint of a Model 3 - except it's arguably more practical with the hatch. Last time I drove through London I did it in a Fiat 500e. Now that was much more of a treat... apart for the squashed passengers in the back of course!
What's it like in a car park? I test drove one last week, but didn't try the local car park. I loved it, but it is quite wide, and the turning circle is not brilliant. The motor also seemed to whine at 70mph, where it otherwise had been silent.
I love this car but agree it is quite large.
I'm waiting for the new upcoming Kia E-Niro, or maybe the ioniq 3 if it appears soon.
Great interview with Emma P. Always very interesting stuff and eye opening. It explains a lot. Great to be able to hear from such bunch of knowledgable people through you guys.
I attempted to cycle from Crawley to central London and back last week. On the way back the traffic was so bad and the drivers so murderous I ended up getting the train home from Croydon.
I really don't think the ioniq 5 is a big car. It looks just right enough to be comfortable.
My Ionic 5 App works seamless! I do not have any issues with, took me no approx 30 mins to sort it and connect. 😊 i do however love the car.
Hear, hear... WE NEED COMPACT, EFFICIENT EVs!
I really like the Ionic 5, just wish it had been shrunken down to a compact hatchback size. Unfortunately global markets seem to prefer SUV sized vehicles to smaller cars, such a shame.
How many pedestrians must die for people to see sense?
I was pretty heartbroken when I actually stood next to it, 30cm shorter and 10cm narrower and it would have been fine. Have to wait for the shrunken down e-GMP platform, maybe a Kona, better an i-series estate. That MG estate is very tempting…
There are others in the Ioniq (and Kia EV) range coming that are smaller.
It's a fair comment that the car is too big for many in the European market, (but it does tow), disappointed that the efficiency is not at Niro or Kona level even though those were built on ICE platforms (although they are smaller cars). Kia had a smaller new model Seltos but that was not a BEV.. In Canada /USA most of the new models are all that size of car -Tesla's VW ID4, (no ID3) Mach-E, soon the Ford 1/2 ton electric. Other than Tesla the manufacturers don't have towing packages for BEV here. (People will buy a truck or a bigger ICE car.)
@@LiamE69 We won't even see the 5 and EV6 for sale this year in Canada (only in a few provinces BC,QC, ON). You can order them if you don't need to know the final sale price. This will take years...
Tesla was started and is run by software people.
Everyone else are car companies paying tier 1 suppliers to deliver their software. This is complete anathema to "integration"
100% hit the nail on the head, this is the crux of the matter.
trenchant observation, should be a pinned comment.
I really would love to see a reasonably priced small EV. Reasonable meaning under 20k or even 15k. I live in a terrace house so the charging network needs to be improved. I’d be happy to pay for a charger lead channel to be placed into the pavement.
Golf Cart
Audit your mileage.
It's quite possible that you park in places and for periods which could easily charge your car simply while "doing other things"
Example.
"Weekly shop"? 45 minutes?
Chinese car are very cheap u can buy BYD for example 🙏🙏🙏😜😜😜
Not quite within your definition of 'reasonable (or 'small', I imagine), but I've just ordered a new MG5 EV that has 250 mile range and it cost £22,600 through (the affinity scheme). This is less than most petrol/diesel cars in the same class and I conservatively calculate that, in comparison with a similar diesel estate, it will pay for itself in fuel, tax and servicing savings over the next 14 years, so effectively it's free. Astonishing value.
Writing from Russia. Spot on. Why would you rely on other states, friendly (or otherwise), when you can do things on your own?
On the other hand why insist on doing things yourself when other states are much more capable of supplying it? Cough lorry drivers.
@@benholroyd5221, touche! 🤣
Writing from Russia? better look out for Putin's police now...
Great video as usual. I agree about the issue of large SUVs being a plague on the roads. I looked into this though, and the footprint of the Ioniq 5 is very similar to the Tesla 3. 6cm shorter but 4cm wider. It is about 16cm taller though (which will effect efficiency, no doubt), but that doesn't effect congestion on the roads like a huge SUV would. Interestingly, the Tesla 6 footprint is almost identical to a Toyota Landcruiser.
If we're going to be critical, I think the footprint is probably the main issue, and it is comparable to others. I don't think this is the car to make the stance on the growing waistline of cars
The issue going forward is that to get the range that people want, batteries are either going to need to get smaller, or cars need to get bigger. I'd love to have something the size of a VW Golf with 500km range and good performance, but unfortunately this is a long way off.
Congestion on the roads has nothing to do with the size of the vehicle and everything to do with the number of vehicles. If anything, the kind of tiny vehicles that encourage people to take the car when they could be walking or cycling are more of a problem. Of course, large petrol/diesel SUVs have particular issues with fuel efficiency but I think we should go easy on people who are just buying a family size car. Personally I prefer an estate, but the market is not really providing.
I go into my “down town” once every few months. I cannot afford to have a “city car” and a “county car”. I am also a man of generous size, and a Mini or similar sized vehicle will not cut it for me. My i3 is about as small as I can go. I also am the primary care giver for my 90yo mother. A larger car is less challenging to her achy joints and muscles. The closest I live to a London sized city is Washington DC, and it is over two hours away. So I can’t agree with you regarding car size and not needing a large car.
Your car suits your use case. But 90% of people are driving around in ICE cars that are 2/3x bigger than they will ever need!
Excellent episode, Robert. I loved the interview, and the way Emma handle the interruption was impressive.
A couple of points to add. Some years ago an earlier iteration of this Tory "government" decided that £720M over 10 years was too much to pay for the upkeep of our Strategic Natural Gas Storage facility. IIRC it could store 3 months supply and was under the North Sea. So they closed it. Knobheads! I think we now have only 3 days storage.
I have a dual fuel supply from EDF. Although I had contemplated changing to Octopus or one of the other smaller suppliers, in the end it wasn't going to make enough difference to be worth it. I'm single, retired and live in Sheltered Housing on a council estate. I told EDF all this and they put me on a special tariff for older and vulnerable people called Safeguard Assist Capped. So far none of my charges have gone up. I have a Smart Meter so I can see how much I use and how much it costs, almost in real time. It's given me a lot of peace of mind in a frankly stupid situation.
Oddly enough, gas prices are nowhere near where they were in 2008 (3x current price)
In that ballpark, can confirm.
There are other issues in the UK, like the lack of truck drivers to transport, especially fuel
@@elektrotehnik94 Mainland Eu prices are also high. Not that big of an issue with drivers.
For the first time in decades I am actually excited about the next subscribers prize
For clarity
Top four Import sources of LNG into the UK 2020 in gigawatt-hours,
Qatar 97k
USA 53k
Russia 25k
Trinidad & Tobago 11k
Brilliant programme Robert, loved every minute. I totally agree with everything, particularly your point about big cars. You didn't mention the Citroen Ami being available in Blightly, but the point still stands. I would love to see a much smaller car, maybe our Chinese friends can help? Why does that thought worry me?
I agree the size of cars is crazy. I had an Audi Q5 and found it never fitted well into car parking spaces and thought about the car size and how often I needed this size of car. I moved from diesel to The Kia E Niro and love my car and not having to visit a petrol station. Great interview with Emma and I love seeing guests showing their human side! She had great information and it was fantastic hearing that we need to continue with what we started in Solar panels, battery storage and EV ownership.
The Emma interview, was excellent.
Thanks for another great update video
Just discovered your channel. Love the material. 19 miles in 4 hour's. I feel your pain. I recently went to New York for the first time. From my hotel in Manhattan to Chinatown 3.9 miles away, took 1 hour and 27 minute's on a Friday. Any-hoo, I really like the Ioniq and I'm keeping my eye on it.
01:05 Does anyone know based on queuing theory or whatever whether putting people into smaller vehicles would reduce traffic jams appreciably, holding all other factors the same? Based on Robert's large cars are insane rant.
I think he's referring to the fact we should be looking at more emobility such as ebikes etc. But we first need the infrastructure to allow that. Cycling in London is pretty dangerous
@@DanRTS been cycling in London my whole life. Never had a car. Keep on rolling those dice...
if there is a que of 132 cars and every car is 4.5 meter long (ioniq5 size-ish), would make you a further distance away from the front than if every car was 3.6 meter long (VW E-up size-ish). if that is what you are asking?
@@DarkDutch007 Queuing is weird though.
@@DarkDutch007 Ignoring the space between the cars , if all the cars in that row were 3.6m instead of 4.5 the last car would be about 119m closer to the front, or about 20% closer. But I suspect that like adding lanes to a highway, making more room on the roads would only induce more people to drive, and traffic would end up similarily bad at rush hours.
This video gives a better perspective of the vehicles size. It's bigger than I originally thought.
Great comments Robert, couldnt agree more that we need smaller cars. If you need to move stuff, use a trailer!
The interview was excellent.
hispano suiza! thats a name!! from the past! good to hear it again!!
Hi Robert,
The recent issue with the recent issue with fuel shortages and prices has made me get rid of my Mercedes E class diesel hybrid which is only 6 months old is going next month and replacing it is the ioniq 5 , I’m a taxi driver in london and the size for me and my passengers is a lot better than the E class , boot size in the Ioniq 5 far larger , so for me a larger all electric car is perfect 👍🏻 leg room greater , most people don’t need that size electric car but for me definitely and the economic benefits from fuel to congestion charging etc etc
Pinchbeck is so impressive
Just so you know, the MEMBERS ONLY thumbnail link, didn’t work. 🤷♀️🇦🇺
When looking at new Evs I noticed that for some reason uk is twice as expensive for the same car as the states, why is that ?
We pay more tax?
Sadly, once again, Australia has priced the Ioniq 5 ridiculously high. It's so much more expensive than the Middle 3 SR and the Kona/Niro is about the same price. It amazes me and annoys me at the same time!
Same in NZ, unless you buy the top spec one you get none of the attractive features
People in Europe share heat between houses? So if a boiler breaks down the whole street freezes?
what will ioniq5 do if i don't touch the steering wheel even after the call .... stop at the side of the road?
No car is a good idea in central London. Just ban all private vehicles from the central zone from X (2030?) just so people can have time to adjust. Public transport, taxis, e-bikes, etc. can cope.
I would love the new prize 🤓. Didn't get to meet you Rob at Fully Charged show 😔⚡🌿
I am quite surprised by Roberts comments on the Hyundai ioniq 5. He didn't make such comments about other big cars you have driven. Top of the range Mercedes, for instance.
There isn't that many small cars to choose from. I choose this car because mainly the boot size, which I need for my mobility scooter.
As far a the difficulty contacting Blue Link to your phone, I had no problems and I am sixty-nine.
I would give this car to ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Really enjoy you videos.
Although it's an SUV, I like the styling of the Ioniq, having been said before, a similar side profile to the classic Lancia Delta Integrale - something like one of those electrified would be cool! - but probably not as safe!
Thats an suv? Quite small for an suv.
@@ItalianRain2 it's not big its bigger than it looks in a photo because it looks like a metro - but its sized like a Qashqai / Tiguan ? not a X5 or ranger rover sport, it;s annoying there are no touran / zafira style MPV EV's which its the same size as but less boxy rear so no third row/hugh family sized cargo area.
A friend has the original Ioniq Electric and it's by any measure the best car I've ever driven. The only problem is that it's a bit old now, and some more range would be useful. So he has been looking into newer Ioniq iterations, but has noticed the same problem as you: they are too big and consume way too much electricity per km. And all the other newer electric vehicles have the same problem. So he really hasn't had any options - the only thing he could improve, from his standpoint, is the range, at the cost of efficiency, looks, suitability for his purpose, etc.
I agree completely with you.
Yesterday I saw an Ioniq 5 in the metal for the first time and I thought: what a huge SUV!!!
Hope they start making small hatchbacks soon!
I don't think Bobby's going to be happy until we're all driving around in tiny boxes. Some of us have kids, pets, elderly relatives, work duties, all requiring a large car weekly if not daily. Driving around in London doesn't make sense in any size of car. I think the whole 'this car is too big for you' discussion is starting to grind my gears. It's also funny how estate cars have been excused from this argument. Estate cars are huge. As I've said previously, sell your house Bob, it's too big for just two people - you're both taking up too much land. Get yourselves into a studio flat and live more efficiently and sustainably.
If you need a big car then you need a big car, but there are plenty of people driving round in SUVs who don't really need them that's the point. I've always had small cars for my family because I could and just rented a van for times I needed to do dump runs or whatever. But not everyone has that option so I understand why lots might get bigger cars. I have a friend who drives a huge ford galaxy around mainly for two people and a dog, but she's convinced she needs a massive car? And I do feel Rob is a bit hypocritical as he has spent many years driving a Tesla s around.
Depends on the oil refinery, but they do self-power actually from parts of their refined products, as well as using electricity. Some even run directly from crude oil(!) though mostly older refineries/where other infrastructure is poor.
Massive SUV?? I guess it is all relative.
Yes! I already have. I purchased a 2010 Imiev 8 months ago for $8000 AUD. Battery is at two thirds of the original capacity, so I get about 80 kilometers on a single charge which easily covers about 99% of my driving needs. The 3 year old 13.2 kW solar systems powers it for free, saving me about $2000 AUD on petrol a year. The system powers the house, saving us about $2000 AUD on electricity bills, and still exports enough power to the grid for AGL to pay us $2000 AUD a year. We also have a 12kWh battery back up system so our Solar powers the whole house at night time.
Loved seeing Emma again, thanks for the reassurance about the coming price hikes and what to do if they get problematic. Your dear little assistant was very sweet and Robert's delight was cute too!
Oh yes I agree with you about the increasing size of these vehicles. We've always had Skodas, don't believe in badge snobbery and they've always done the job. The Enyaq seemed very exciting and I pronounced it the car I'd love to have if I ever had the budget for it. By crikey, having seen it the other day, it's enormous though! No problem for me driving it as an ex bus driver but like you say, fitting it through crowded streets and parking would be a nightmare. All I want is a car with the same amount of boot space as my Roomster, about 450 litres to fit my stealth mobility vehicle in or a big dog crate. How is something like that not being built? Think it'll be the eNiro unless something else comes along in the next couple of years.
At 3:23; because Tesla is a SW company first then a HW company and a car company last.
I would only consider a small suv with awd because I live in Canada and we have kids. We tried the station wagon route and it’s just not quite there for dealing with snow and ice in the prairies, where snow removal doesn’t happen.
Really thought provoking interview. Roll on the UK govt policy on replacing gas boilers in the home.
I listened to the podcast an this video, I feel you’re frustration at the world. I love cycling but have all but stopped due to abusive motorists EV or not. It’s not rational to travel across very little of London at 4 mph in a vehicle but people are addicted lazy and selfish. QED, the behaviour resulting in the fuel shortage.
Hypocritically, I can’t agree with ride sharing notions unless you can solve sharing with other peoples standards. I rented a vehicle recently which was surface sanitised with in an inch out it’s life. However, the less seen contact surfaces were covered in god knows what sticky gloop. The vehicle stank of BO and cigarettes. I don’t know the way forward but we have a long way to go.
I love your honesty, Robert. And I agree with you. However, if you were to live in a remote area in a big country (US, Canada, Russia) where you have snow and strong winds, believe me, the size of a car matters.
Nice to meet you last week Robert. Enjoy your holiday…
So basically you need a car for every use.
1 for when you are driving alone. (Smaller car)
1 for when you have the whole family (Car with a wide backseat for 3 kids)
1 for when you are moving stuff about (Van style car with a lot of cargo space)
etc etc
I guess the main reason someone would be driving a SUV in the city, is because they sometimes need a SUV, and they can not afford, nor do the really need 2 or more cars, so the one they have has to be used, also for places where it is maybe less suited.
But hey, if Robert thinks the solution to polution and congestion and problems finding parking spaces is to buy more cars, well hey....He is entitled to his opinion....
I think robot cars will eventually help with this. You just hail the kind of car you need from an app and the nearest available one drives to you in 1 or 2 minutes. The cars could have usage rate like >80 % compared to today's rate where personally owned cars are parked 95 % of the time.
Let's be clear on the point that Robert makes: SUVs will be produced en masse because people demand them ... and so often (in the UK) those who demand SUVs never (or very very seldom) have need of them.
The situation we really don't want is for folks to "have to" 'demand' SUVs because those are pretty much the cars on the market.
@@aidanapword But the fact of the matter is that he is talking about SUV's not being needed in cities and linking it with congestion.
Honestly, the congestion is not going to be any better or worse, if everyone bought a Peugeot 108 instead.
Also...What do you know, if people need them or not.
My next car is probably gonna be a SUV of some kind.
The main reason i have is, i want a car that i get in to instead of sit down in.
That alone, could be the reason these people opt for a SUV.
@@JohnDoe-bd5sz ok so you have a reason for wanting an SUV that isn't just conspicuous expenditure.
Not all people have reasons things beyond "because an SUV is the best (for showing off my status)".
I think Robert is trying to highlight that if everyone wants an SUV then those who don't want an SUV get left without a choice or ... At the very least have to wait many more years for suitable tech to come to market.
Your view is that an SUV is better for you. Like I said, that's fine. At the same time there are a lot of people out there who deliberately do not want an SUV because for them it is more important to maintain decorum (that is: their opinion of what appropriate behaviour is) or don't want a big thing on their driveway, or want a more agile car, or other reasons.
There is some backlash here (and some of it justified) from people who think ab SUV is brash and inappropriate on UK roads ... Anyone who has driven a smaller car more appropriate (even) just to their needs and been pushed about by the Chelsea Tractor driving obnoxiously personalised plate totting entitlement Muppet driving way too aggressively ...
@@aidanapword But what do you want to do about it.
Do you suggest the market begin making a lot of "non-SUV" cars if there is not a lot of demand for them ?
The main problem here is that Robert (And you) seem to want to tell people what they need and try and push them into buying what YOU and Robert thinks is an appropriate car.
I would also like affordable electric cars and i would also like for the manufacturers to make "all sort of cars" but in a market where people want SUV's and you can not make all variants at once, would it not be wise to focus on the most profitable market first.
MG has the EV5, Dacia has the Spring, Tesla has model S and Model 3, and so on, those are not SUV's so there are options for people that do not want an SUV.
Honestly i dont really care what type of car they make or what type of car people drive, i just want them to get cheaper so that they will be profitable with my driving pattern and the amount of miles i drive every year.
Most of these SUV's that are on the market are not even that huge, i have 3 kids, and the backseat would be really crammed in most of these supposedly large SUV's.
Also his rant about a big SUV, and only one occupant....I have a stationwagon and 90% of the time it is just me, alone, driving to work..
Those 90% of the time i could easily make do with a lot smaller car, but where would i put the kids the 10% of the time, where i need to bring them with me somewhere.
I bet the enviromental effect of me buying a second, smaller car, would not be in the enviroments favor, as it would mean that i would have a second car that has cost "pollution" to make, without ever being able to make back in less pollution, what it cost to build.
(In reality we do have 2 cars and the second one is a smaller car, but this is the car my wife drives to work, so in essence we would now have to have 3 cars instead of 2)
In general i really hate when people feel the need to tell other people what THEY think the other people need....Unless what they have is REALLY gone overboard....Like a guy in the US i saw, that bought a 3 ton 9 seater 3+ liter V6 "truck" for his wife, where he stated, she would only use it for school runs and grocery shopping.
brilliant episode!
Damn it’s refreshing to hear such a knowledgeable person talking. So much obfuscation and both-sidesing on the mainstream news. Great show.
Robert hit the nail on the head! I own 2 ICE cars , one for me, one for the wife, would love to drive EV but the current selection is obsessed with over sized, expensive models. I have 4 children, 3 still often at home so a Zoe sized car is out of the question. I need decent range - over 200 miles in all weathers and decent charging speeds. Council recently made a big thing of installing ev chargers in each town- each town got 3 22kw chargers! Went to see a brand new house on a new estate - 150 houses, not a solar panel in sight and all gas boilers! My fridge, TV, dishwasher have energy ratings, it’s about time they were introduced on EVs. Apologies for the rant!
*looks at current selection of EV hatches and sedans* uhhhhh, they exist..
@@ItalianRain2 . Prices?
You have a driveway big enough for two cars? If yes, then the public infrastructure available is irrelevant.
If, however, you don't ... then I would say that the price of a home big enough for a family of 6 (with a driveway) in the UK has to be at least part of the problem ... no?
@@bordersw1239 I'm not going to look up every price but I'd say the average was around 40k before taxes and tax incentives. If you buy em used you could find em for 30k with around 30k miles.
Aah, the joys of living in London. I prefer my NIU scooter (recommended by Fully Charged) in the the city, I can do 24 miles into & out of London in about an hour. No congestion charge, free parking and cheap to run. Larger vehicles have their place, on a road trip, not in the city
The i3 was way ahead of its time. So sad to see it discontinued.
I own a BMW i3 and absolutely love it but it is compromised in many ways: tiny boot and just about enough space for 2 smaller adults. It is also insanely expensive new.
The BMW i3 was trash lol . It was only build to shut up the goverment and collect tax mony . It was totaly overprice to make sure nobody woud buy it . So the can sell you a fule car.
A useful tip for those in the UK: There are £40 induction cooktops. They run on very little electricity and save on energy bills
Your right in what you say about the size of vehicles 🤠
Hole E shit! 30.56 km in four hours? And you have trains and busses that (even though Londoners think that they suck these days) would TOTALLY be loved in Cape Town, Johannesburg, Durban.
Thanks Fully Charged, casting light on complexity and depth of reliance on fossil fuels. Co2 usage as a refrigerant and to knock out animals for slaughter, the fossil fuel industry has wriggled into every aspect of our lives. There is much to be done in shining light into those dark corners of our terrible economic system.
On the upside, plenty of markets for 'Carbon Capture' systems to sell to, if they can get it working effectively (currently uses too much power for capture, and thus too expensive compared to FF CO2)
Thank you Robert and the team. The next prize, could only dream about going on a shoot with the FC team be like going with the Grand Tour team, mind you I don't live in the UK so definitely won't be me. I'd love to meet Andy, Jack, Helen, Maddie, Robert(obviously) and the behind the scenes crew someday. Love your channel as I have since the very first pilot episode so many years ago now.
Really enjoyed this show, very informative.
Regarding big cars, it’s not just electric models, a lot of diesel and petrol cars are enormous, I’m sure some family’s need the space a big car provides, but a lot of the time they are only occupied by one or two people at a time. It’s time manufacturers started putting as much effort in to smaller cars as they do with there bigger cars, especially when it comes to equipment and comfort levels.
We need telescopic cars - it can be squeezed down when there is only one passenger, but stretched out when a load is to be moved. Much less hassle than a trailer, too!
The reason I heard for the high petrol and diesel prices is the lack of truck drivers to get the fuel from the refineries to the petrol stations.
That's a shortage driving prices up, currently... I think the link to Nat. Gas is that whilst wedo have a stock of already-refined petrol & deseasal, future refining will be more expensive due to the higher electricity costs... meaning that even when the supply issues at the pump are resolved, prices may stay high because it's costing more to produce.
Traffic Jam is a Jam makes no difference Big Car, Small Car or SUV etc take the Public transit (Train, Subway, Bus) or Ride a Bike.. that's what I do when traveling into the City! ..Save on Parking and Gas! ..City Driving is ridiculous !
Have agree with you, best catch the train/bus in cities. Sure drive
to an outer suburb, then take the train, to your destination.