Thanks John and PG team. One of the best reviews I've seen of the amp. Definitely seems to capture the essence of the 100W daddy. I definitely want one as running it at the edge of break up like John was doing in the beginning of the video sounds awesome to my ears.
I'm looking for a new combo amp, so I'm going through all these videos again. John's playing is incredible and really makes this amp sing. I'm convinced, after my own demo, this will be the amp I will purchase. Great demo John!
What's really sweet about this is when you're playing the jazz licks (great playing, BTW) the amp still has that natural compression, even though it's not overdriven. You just don't get that with master volume amps.
It's fantastic amplifier every amp out there has 12 inch doesn't mean it has to have 12 inch. 10 inch has it's own place it's not mushy and bassy, its on point and cut through guitars are not meant to be bass heavy we have bass guitar for that. Just listen to the sound rather than numbers.
The reason people want 12 inch speakers with a plexi is becuase a 12 inch speaker is part of the plexi sound. 10 inch speakers have their place of course but the plexi Amps were ran through cabs with 12 inch speakers. That's the sound on classic live performances . The b type is also far from the most vintage sounding speaker out there . The 10 inch creamback would would have been a better choice for a 10 inch speaker. The combo should have had a greenback reiisue or a g12h30 hertiage either 55hz or 75hz becuase those were the 3 speakers used with old school late 60s and 70s Marshall's.
My fave guitar speakers are a 10” and a 15”. Tens work great in multi Spkrs cabs (4x10, 6x10), and 15’s sound great with some amps, especially the Traynor and Ampegs of yesteryear. Of course, every one is different….
Btw, Marshall also recently released a JCM800 version of this Studio line as well, the SC20C. That one has master volume of course. Let's hear that one too John!
This combo is made to be playable at home (5 Watts and a 10 inch Speaker) and easily carry around and hook to a 4*12 in 20 watt mode live ... I guess it rocks either way
"What I like about Marshalls is they really find their place in the mix"-- I've been saying that for years! Sometimes I try to dial in a tone on mine and eventually I give up and I'm like OK whatever, but then with the band it just finds its own space. Thanks for the video!
I think the same... I've tried many amps (don't get me wrong, I have played Marshall's for over 30 years now and they are my favorites), yet tried som other brands... did not work... I play with other guitarists who use other brands and always seem to get lost in the mix... they always have to tweak there rig quite a bit whereas my amp is always there, solid... with 'personality'. Love Marshall to be honest... 2 basic guitars I gig with a Les Paul (obvious choice lol) and a PRS Custom 24. Both sound killer there...
Exactly! That's why all other amps and modded Marshalls supposed to be better, end up being too gainy, too bass'y, or something... Marshalls is a beast that fits in a rock band
Good review job JB...and to the folks unhappy w/the 10” driver...they make this as a head only and then one can plug it into whatever so long as the impedance matches. They make this in a 20/5 watt JCM 800 configuration too, both combo and head. Both heads seem to be offered at an honest street price of $1,299.
Im liking the compact combo. I get it, its not going to push air like a 2x12 or 4x12 cab which are much larger. You get that Cab resonance. I would just throw a mike on the combo and send it to front of house.
I have 2 X Marshall 4x10 cabs, an A and a B driven by a JTM60 head. I've had people almost fall over when they hear the tone. Celestion 10" speakers are tighter than 12s, which can give way better tone at the lower volumes of amps like these. The cab for the SV20H head is a 1x12 and there is a 2x12 cab as well but, the 10" speaker is my choice.
I love that descending lick John plays at 0:16 - anyone know where I can find tabs for that style of lick? I've heard him play it before, some sort of chicken pickin' but I can't figure it out...
Marshall has finally made the amps they should’ve been making all along. The Studio Vintage and the Classic are absolute monsters! I’m hoping these get in the hands of a lot of players. Not sure why they went with a 10” speaker in the combo. Hopefully they’ll correct that failure. I’d buy the head version.
Would love this amp along with mini Silver Jubilee for perfect Marshall amp collection of vintage and modern Marshall sounds. I prefer the amp head over combo because I like to use a separate cab. Add in a good 4x12 and you are set.
Currently, I have the silver jubilee have been running a plexi pedal on my Clean channel. I am curious if I added this amp to my rig just for those plexi tones and specifically the free tones your dialing in right now is why I use the pedal as well as some of the Clapton tones are better on, the plexi versus the 87 just curious would a volume pedal help to control or act as a attenuator of sorts on this amp, if plugged in through the effect loop, I like to use them headroom to bedroom with the jubilee. It has the master built-in, and I don’t think they meant to, but you can actually get cranked Tube tones at way low bedroom volumes. Thanks for any feedback or maybe I’m just better off sticking with my pedals. 3:31
At the beginning of the video John says the direct ouput is speaker simulated. Other people who has demoed this amp says it's not and that you need to use cab IR:s in your DAW for that. Also, I haven't figured out if you can record silent thru this output, as is possible with my Fender Bassbreaker (which by the way also have the option to engage or disengage speaker simulation).
@@thegimpsometimes5937 If you do that then there is nothing bearing the load from the amp, and it will fry. You can unplug speaker but need to run it into a load-bearing device, then thru that to recording device. Or can use line out from amp. I used to record in an apartment using a Vibro-King into a THD attenuator/load box into a Red Box cab Sim and into a cassette recording device. Very 90s! But it worked perfectly! The point is you can't run a tube amp unless it's going into something that will bear the load. I believe it's different if it's solid state or just has preamp tubes, but not totally sure. Also you have to match the ohms between amp and speaker or load device. Definitely avoid going from higher ohms in amp to a lower ohm speaker/load, such as going 8 into 4 or 16 into 8 or 4. Burner! I believe you can go up from 4 to 8 or 16, or 8 to 16, but you lose power efficiency. I am not sure if that is harmful to your amp, so I would not recommend it. You can go out to 2 cabinets but you really need to know what you are doing to have the math work right on the ohms. On a Marshall the speaker outs guide you how to hook that up. Hope that is helpful. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can sharpen that up.
Cool promo. Would you say it has a lot more bass tone then a 10 watt practice amp ? If no, what size of amp would you recommend to go to without getting outrageous in price,( i heard 50 watts is plenty to get super warm bass tones on a Strat ...in general )
I have yet to see a modern "Free" tribute player use anything approaching Kossoff's cranked Plexi tone - they all seem to go for the JCM800 gainy sound.
I also have a class 5, this seems like a more expensive louder version of it (and not just because of its looks). I read somewhere the class 5 made Marshall lose money and that's why it was discontinued... who knows. I would probably go for the origin series which is much cheaper, this is kind of expensive but very cool nevertheless
this thing has a ton of those live Zep tones. There's a big difference between 5 and 20 watts...this thing should be able to keep up with most drummers if you're practicing indoors/studio
When you cranked that Marshall to 20 watts, you still had your house in order. When I try to crank my Marshall 18w amp, the pictures are falling off the walls. 😳
Wonder why you decided to use the low inputs for this video. You're also the first person I've ever seen to jump the channels on the low input rather than the high input.
One of the reasons for the high price on these new Studio amps (Classic and Vintage) is they are made in England. The DSL's and Origin's are made in Vietnam.
Yeah, so they say but I don't believe it. Tear it down and I'll bet you it has the same PC as the origin. I wander if someone would be willing to prove it. Come on Marshall let's see the inerds.
Years ago a brought home a 100 watt Plexi and even with a 20 foot cable, I couldn't get far enough away from it. The 50 watt Plexi was almost tolerable and I like to play loud. This 20 watt version just might be the bees knees !
Nice demo! I like my amps nice and simple for longevity and fix ability. Two many options and when things go wrong it’s hard to find a tech to fix those cheap cramped boards. I imagine Marshall sound checked this and went with the 10” speaker because it sounded better?
@@wout666 yeah, el34s yeah pcb mounted valves and pots I believe. Made in England though. 20W is still waayyy louder than most stages will let you turn up though - there's actually not a lot of difference between 20 and 50 watts. My thinking is if you need to install MV or get an attenuator anyway, just get a 1987x and call it a day. Unless your stoked on the combo, then get the 1974x - its at least point to point and comes with a 12" speaker.
That amp nails the classic tone without the chiropractic adjustment and the whole bleeding ears thing! Great video!
Thanks John and PG team. One of the best reviews I've seen of the amp. Definitely seems to capture the essence of the 100W daddy. I definitely want one as running it at the edge of break up like John was doing in the beginning of the video sounds awesome to my ears.
John Bohlinger, you're an absolute treasure. I just wanted to make sure you know that.
Yeah, it's not gay to crush on John :)
Love the tone, love the playing, love the channel.
With a 1x12 extension cab, its perfect for medium sized gigs and a noisy rock outfit.
Lovely stuff.
The review and your playing are both equally interesting. Thanks.
When I need a demo that balances great & tasteful playing, and useful real world info, this is who I search for! 🤘🏻
Great review John! Amazing playing as well!
John, great video, great amp, and great playing, thanks much
Sounds awesome with either guitar, great demo bro diverse playing is always nice to hear.
JOHN!!! You made that LP SCREAM !!!!!!
I'm looking for a new combo amp, so I'm going through all these videos again. John's playing is incredible and really makes this amp sing. I'm convinced, after my own demo, this will be the amp I will purchase. Great demo John!
What's really sweet about this is when you're playing the jazz licks (great playing, BTW) the amp still has that natural compression, even though it's not overdriven. You just don't get that with master volume amps.
It's fantastic amplifier every amp out there has 12 inch doesn't mean it has to have 12 inch. 10 inch has it's own place it's not mushy and bassy, its on point and cut through guitars are not meant to be bass heavy we have bass guitar for that. Just listen to the sound rather than numbers.
The reason people want 12 inch speakers with a plexi is becuase a 12 inch speaker is part of the plexi sound. 10 inch speakers have their place of course but the plexi Amps were ran through cabs with 12 inch speakers. That's the sound on classic live performances . The b type is also far from the most vintage sounding speaker out there . The 10 inch creamback would would have been a better choice for a 10 inch speaker. The combo should have had a greenback reiisue or a g12h30 hertiage either 55hz or 75hz becuase those were the 3 speakers used with old school late 60s and 70s Marshall's.
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My fave guitar speakers are a 10” and a 15”. Tens work great in multi Spkrs cabs (4x10, 6x10), and 15’s sound great with some amps, especially the Traynor and Ampegs of yesteryear. Of course, every one is different….
Btw, Marshall also recently released a JCM800 version of this Studio line as well, the SC20C. That one has master volume of course.
Let's hear that one too John!
This combo is made to be playable at home (5 Watts and a 10 inch Speaker) and easily carry around and hook to a 4*12 in 20 watt mode live ...
I guess it rocks either way
it would look killer upside a 4x12 cab
"What I like about Marshalls is they really find their place in the mix"-- I've been saying that for years! Sometimes I try to dial in a tone on mine and eventually I give up and I'm like OK whatever, but then with the band it just finds its own space. Thanks for the video!
I think the same... I've tried many amps (don't get me wrong, I have played Marshall's for over 30 years now and they are my favorites), yet tried som other brands... did not work... I play with other guitarists who use other brands and always seem to get lost in the mix... they always have to tweak there rig quite a bit whereas my amp is always there, solid... with 'personality'. Love Marshall to be honest... 2 basic guitars I gig with a Les Paul (obvious choice lol) and a PRS Custom 24. Both sound killer there...
Exactly! That's why all other amps and modded Marshalls supposed to be better, end up being too gainy, too bass'y, or something... Marshalls is a beast that fits in a rock band
Excellent playing and tone. You did it right!
Dude....you SHRED !
Great playing
Sounds awesome. You just sold this to me John. Cheers👍
Good review job JB...and to the folks unhappy w/the 10” driver...they make this as a head only and then one can plug it into whatever so long as the impedance matches. They make this in a 20/5 watt JCM 800 configuration too, both combo and head. Both heads seem to be offered at an honest street price of $1,299.
Im liking the compact combo. I get it, its not going to push air like a 2x12 or 4x12 cab which are much larger. You get that Cab resonance. I would just throw a mike on the combo and send it to front of house.
John, we need a Rig Rundown of your own guitar gear, you have great taste man.
Cheers
i still can't believe people pay this dude to play guitar!
You Suck yet he is better than you
Been watching you for years. Glad to see you can play.
That's great!!! My only thing I would want is a 12 inch speaker. But everything else is perfection on a platter!!!
If you've never had a good tube amp with a 10", don't count them out.
@@daemonelectricity Exactly. They can sound huge and quite loud.
I have 2 X Marshall 4x10 cabs, an A and a B driven by a JTM60 head. I've had people almost fall over when they hear the tone. Celestion 10" speakers are tighter than 12s, which can give way better tone at the lower volumes of amps like these. The cab for the SV20H head is a 1x12 and there is a 2x12 cab as well but, the 10" speaker is my choice.
I want the head version of this amp so bad!
I love that descending lick John plays at 0:16 - anyone know where I can find tabs for that style of lick? I've heard him play it before, some sort of chicken pickin' but I can't figure it out...
Great demo......
Good job having a picture of the Blessed Mother of Christ on your Telecaster! Way to represent!
Fr. Dave
Nice playing John. Cool little amp too
I need one of these, in the head.
Hey what pickups are you using on the telecaster in the video please?
Marshall has finally made the amps they should’ve been making all along. The Studio Vintage and the Classic are absolute monsters! I’m hoping these get in the hands of a lot of players. Not sure why they went with a 10” speaker in the combo. Hopefully they’ll correct that failure. I’d buy the head version.
maybe because 12 inch speaker are more useful with 50/100watt amps?
John is a freak guitarist. He knows his gear and he knows how to play
If I may say so, that is some pretty tasty playing, young sir. And great tone, of course.
How did you connect the channels together?
Would love this amp along with mini Silver Jubilee for perfect Marshall amp collection of vintage and modern Marshall sounds. I prefer the amp head over combo because I like to use a separate cab. Add in a good 4x12 and you are set.
Currently, I have the silver jubilee have been running a plexi pedal on my Clean channel. I am curious if I added this amp to my rig just for those plexi tones and specifically the free tones your dialing in right now is why I use the pedal as well as some of the Clapton tones are better on, the plexi versus the 87 just curious would a volume pedal help to control or act as a attenuator of sorts on this amp, if plugged in through the effect loop, I like to use them headroom to bedroom with the jubilee. It has the master built-in, and I don’t think they meant to, but you can actually get cranked Tube tones at way low bedroom volumes. Thanks for any feedback or maybe I’m just better off sticking with my pedals. 3:31
woa.. didn't knew they make the combo as well ...
Long time fan! Great demo John! Would definitely sound better with 12's. But there was something missing... err someone... Where is Chris?!
Nice review.
At the beginning of the video John says the direct ouput is speaker simulated. Other people who has demoed this amp says it's not and that you need to use cab IR:s in your DAW for that. Also, I haven't figured out if you can record silent thru this output, as is possible with my Fender Bassbreaker (which by the way also have the option to engage or disengage speaker simulation).
To record quiet all you’d have to do is unplug the speaker...
@@thegimpsometimes5937 If you do that then there is nothing bearing the load from the amp, and it will fry. You can unplug speaker but need to run it into a load-bearing device, then thru that to recording device. Or can use line out from amp. I used to record in an apartment using a Vibro-King into a THD attenuator/load box into a Red Box cab Sim and into a cassette recording device. Very 90s! But it worked perfectly!
The point is you can't run a tube amp unless it's going into something that will bear the load. I believe it's different if it's solid state or just has preamp tubes, but not totally sure.
Also you have to match the ohms between amp and speaker or load device. Definitely avoid going from higher ohms in amp to a lower ohm speaker/load, such as going 8 into 4 or 16 into 8 or 4. Burner!
I believe you can go up from 4 to 8 or 16, or 8 to 16, but you lose power efficiency. I am not sure if that is harmful to your amp, so I would not recommend it.
You can go out to 2 cabinets but you really need to know what you are doing to have the math work right on the ohms. On a Marshall the speaker outs guide you how to hook that up.
Hope that is helpful. Maybe someone more knowledgeable can sharpen that up.
Can you review the heads? Thanks!
I want to go to jazz land?
Great vid, thnx John
hearing that slide sells that amp.
Marshall's own demo of the combo was weak. John, you made it sing! I'm now interested...
All of Marshalls demos are ass
@@dumbdickler670 no doubt, what's up with that lol
Cool promo. Would you say it has a lot more bass tone then a 10 watt practice amp ? If no, what size of amp would you recommend to go to without getting outrageous in price,( i heard 50 watts is plenty to get super warm bass tones on a Strat ...in general )
You'll get more bass out of a 12 inch speaker
Great observation, John, about Kossoff's tone. I was not all that dirty or gainy of a tone. I can't wait to try one of these amps.
I have yet to see a modern "Free" tribute player use anything approaching Kossoff's cranked Plexi tone - they all seem to go for the JCM800 gainy sound.
I meant to type "It" not "I" above, meaning Kos's tone.
Wow
Damn John, some killer playing and a great review. Did you keep it?
Needs an attenuator or a volume pedal in the effects loop to play at home. 5 watts is still to loud.
Yep. I have the combo and you absolutely need an attenuator to play at home and get the breakup tones these amps are known for.
Hey John, are those original Howard Finster's? Impressive!
I like the amp so much... but not much the high reverb level... greettings from Argentina. I really enjoy your tests!!
I just bought this exact amp...does anybody know what pedals he's using?
Hey John, I think Two Notes needs to come model your living room for the CAB-M.
Very close to AC/DC tone.I like it.
does it have reverb inside?
Sounds better with the Reverb off. A touch of echo works better to fatten it up.
Seriously agree Should have used a 12 Marketing mistake IMO
12 Marketing? What’s that?
@@jhwk1970 He meant a 12 inch speaker, cork sniffers basically
EPIC PLAYING, CHEERS!
Is it good to put 12 inch speaker in it
John Bohlinger for Mayor of Nashville!!
Oh boy! Is this worth buying if I already have a class 5?
I also have a class 5, this seems like a more expensive louder version of it (and not just because of its looks). I read somewhere the class 5 made Marshall lose money and that's why it was discontinued... who knows. I would probably go for the origin series which is much cheaper, this is kind of expensive but very cool nevertheless
this thing has a ton of those live Zep tones. There's a big difference between 5 and 20 watts...this thing should be able to keep up with most drummers if you're practicing indoors/studio
B Bender. I hear ya!
Beautiful amps, I have one but it's so damned loud I still haven't been able to push it to overdrive level 😂
When you cranked that Marshall to 20 watts, you still had your house in order. When I try to crank my Marshall 18w amp, the pictures are falling off the walls. 😳
Is it worth the extra bucks over the Origin50? thank you
Yep it is worth.
Wonder why you decided to use the low inputs for this video. You're also the first person I've ever seen to jump the channels on the low input rather than the high input.
I use the low input(bottom left)and jumpered on my stock 71 1987 because it’s slightly lower volume and darker/cleaner than the high input
Nice demo. Awesome playing.Nice amp. A little bit pricey,
nice tele
how do i play like this??
I’d have to disagree on it not being a super loud 20w. I bought it and It’s bloody bonkers loud - easy enough to keep up with a drummer.
does it keep up witn drummer with 5watt or only with 20 ?
I am the same level grey and I'm 38. I used " just for men" the first time this week. I am John next Halloween.
ha
@@johnbohlinger I will have to watch a pedal video and see what shoe you wear. Probably "Chuck's" or "Doc's"
Bro u need start a band and then they’ll do a rig run down on u...u sound awesome and definitely have the rockstar personality...🤘🎸🎼🎶🎶🎶
you are too kind
"rock star personality"? More like game show host.
he has, they did a rig run down for a band he was playing lapsteel or some shit on.
One of the reasons for the high price on these new Studio amps (Classic and Vintage) is they are made in England. The DSL's and Origin's are made in Vietnam.
Yeah, so they say but I don't believe it. Tear it down and I'll bet you it has the same PC as the origin. I wander if someone would be willing to prove it. Come on Marshall let's see the inerds.
A tech on UA-cam already broke down inside of the new JCM 800 studio vintage, it’s full of cheap Chinese rubbish and corners cut left right and centre
@@Fandao19 Can you post the link to that video? I'd like to see that.
oh my , sounds so goody goody ... :)) . first amp i really like , so that is the price you have to pay for good sounding amp :(
That Tele sounded delish running through that Marshall.
Years ago a brought home a 100 watt Plexi and even with a 20 foot cable, I couldn't get far enough away from it. The 50 watt Plexi was almost tolerable and I like to play loud.
This 20 watt version just might be the bees knees !
Nice demo! I like my amps nice and simple for longevity and fix ability. Two many options and when things go wrong it’s hard to find a tech to fix those cheap cramped boards. I imagine Marshall sound checked this and went with the 10” speaker because it sounded better?
Can live w/o that ‘verb
Excellent Video Excellent Dude , Please Interview Yngwie Malmsteen Or Frank Marino
Hey John, what kind of pick do you use? It seems kinda thick.
that's stock.
What is this BOARD???🤔🤔🤔
Sounds pretty harsh to me. I'd like to hear it through a couple 12" greenbacks.
Is it normal for the amp to hiss on the treble channel?
Something is off - maybe it's the ten inch but it doesn't sound too hot. Almost bought one glad I didn't.
Check out the review Tom did for Dawson's in the UK. He uses much hotter tones. ua-cam.com/video/HvTvvc6MxNU/v-deo.html
for 1500 they can keep it!!!NO WAY!
Cool ...great demo...looks like don't buy a Marshall if you don't use the knobs on your guitar !
not brown enuff....not oozing with the tone...KINDA TREBLY AND ONE DIMENSIONAL
It lost me with no 12" speaker.. That makes me a sad panda.
where's the bass? still might get one. run it into a 212.
Gotta do some "Custard Pie" or "Trampled Under Foot"... like Pete Thorn!
Kossof used lots of amps plexi’s and even orange amps for a time
Man I don't get who made the decision to put a 10" over a 12" WTF?
Bad decision, IMHO. I even wished Marshall had used a 12" in the Class 5, but to not use one with a 20w amp is quite odd.
10s sound better to me.
Actually in a blind audio test, its been documented that 8” speakers are more preferred when used in smaller areas.
I like 8” and 10” just fine. Mic em up to the pa is the way to go if needed and a 8-10 at home sounds fantastic to me.
You can get the SV20H Head unit, they sell a vintage matching 2 x 12 cab for it, it sounds a LOT better than the combo 10 set up
They might have a hot seller here. Let’s see how reliable they are. If they’re running the EL84’s with the sockets on a pcb still, stay away!
el84's?? didn't it have el34's?
It's a pair of el34's. Sockets are cob mounted but apparently with sturdy metal brackets that go down to the chassis.
@@wout666 yeah, el34s yeah pcb mounted valves and pots I believe. Made in England though. 20W is still waayyy louder than most stages will let you turn up though - there's actually not a lot of difference between 20 and 50 watts. My thinking is if you need to install MV or get an attenuator anyway, just get a 1987x and call it a day. Unless your stoked on the combo, then get the 1974x - its at least point to point and comes with a 12" speaker.
*pcb* (damn auto-correct).
Of course it has EL34s, which is the tube used in nearly all 1959 Super Lead plexis.
The amp itself is wonderful but that 10 inch speaker doesn't do it justice. Imo needs at least a 2x12
Ace Ventura forever
Wonder if this would work for a life setting unmiced
Holy wears your long strap Batman
matshall make the best amps, the dsl 100 plexi is my favorite with a four speaker B box, its perfect
Never, never record a video right after lunch - it comes through. Cool amp though.
For playing pink floyd and jimi hendrix, srv,this amp is good ?