Faith Clash: The Belief Divide Between Believers And Non-Believers With Edith Gray & B. Simone
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- Опубліковано 23 кві 2024
- Whether you're team “science and reason” or riding the “faith wave,” this chat is for you. On our latest episode of Across Generations, host Tiffany Cross sat down with Edith Gray and B. Simone to get real about the twists and turns on the road to spiritual discovery. This isn’t your usual chit-chat about faith. We are going beyond the Sunday sermons and into the gritty, beautiful mess of finding purpose, with or without a roadmap handed down by tradition.
Once an atheist and now a Born-again believer. I been there and done that. You have to find the right church. When I gave my life to Christ, I did not attend a church for over 6 months. But then th LORD GOD led me.
Amen!!! What was that journey like?
Amen, We’re the church our bodies are the temple of God because we possess the Holy Spirit.
1 Corinthians 3:16
“Do you not know that you are the temple of God and that the Spirit of God dwells in you?”
You have to find the right church? If you don't, then what?
Amen to that sis👏🏾
If you believe you shouldn't need a church....just an excuse@@truettadevil
I found this conversation to represent how people are at the root of where we are as a larger community. The whole basis of God is faith. Without faith it is impossible to experience God in his fullness. It’s far easier to not believe than to believe. Freewill exists and the devil is busy. My hope is that both Tiffany and her non believer guest open themselves up to receiving God and it will be then that they will experience his miracles, mercy, and forgiveness. The hope I have in Christ helps me endure this world and I actively seek him in all things. May we all allow ourselves to experience the love of Jesus. 🙏🏽
Jesus and the god you worship is a byproduct of slavery and colonization.
I completely disagree that it is easier not to believe. The plain fact that the majority of people worldwide have some sort of belief, disprove your assertion. People believe because they are taught not to, will result in some horrible retribution, or to believe will result in some reward to some place where you float around for eternity. I live my life like this is not a dress rehearsal, but my short time here to enjoy life and no worrying about what happens when I die.
AMEN🙏🏾
It takes faith to believe the enormous contradictions in the Bible. This conversation is happening because there is an awakening; it is the Age of Aquarius.
Please stop. There are many spiritual paths. You don't have to believe in god to be be spiritual or to have faith.
She tried so hard not to tell that lady she was going to hell, but knew she had to answer the question honestly 😂😂😂
So many "Christians" can't wait to tell someone who's going to hell... we knew that shoe was guaranteed going to drop
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Sis why do you want a god to singe her for all eternity? Ask yourself why is that ok, moral, or loving? Try studying the doctrine of hell and change your mind… I did.
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She didn't answer it honestly, she answered it via how she was programmed to... even though she said she "did her own research", she sounds like every Christian that was just born into the faith. Hell requires faith because there's no evidence that it exists outside the mind of Christians.
This conversation need a part 2, maybe 3 with other religions as well. Very interesting conversation.
I agree. Yes!
I appreciate B. Simone sharing her experience. I have a relationship with God. I am a believer and follower of Christ. I seek Him daily and have seen him move in my life and my family’s life in miraculous ways. Whenever I have a need or I am at the end of my strength, His power kicks in. I believe He is our creator and He created us for a purpose and to be an answer to a problem on Earth. God gives us free will. He would like us to choose relationship with Him, He will never force his will on us.
Tiffany, I hope you continue this conversation.
Why do you always refer to your god as a he? Does it have male characteristics or genitalia?
I’m glad B stood her ground on the faith! I hope these ladies experience the presence of the Holy Spirit in their lives. One thing you can’t deny is a persons experience with Christ. It’s real y’all and give him a chance. 🩵
No competition. They all have everything they need to thrive- food shelter safety… without the sun- nobody will be here. Could the light of the world- the sun- just be a personification of a son resurrecting. Hmm the sun does it every day and we don’t need faith - the sun do what it does.
@@lr1698 I get what you mean. Nice perspective. When I was in the dark (spirituality) dealing with depression for the first time ever I needed the son (Jesus) to be the light and he came through 🙌🏾
I love B. Simone and her unwavering commitment to Christ!! Another great millennial-believer would’ve been Jackie Hill Perry. I believe Jackie would’ve been able to speak to a lot of their ideology surrounding Christianity.
I agree and Jackie’s husband Preston Perry, is an apologist. He would also be someone who would be a good guest to add to this discussion.
I agree, I was thinking this as I was listening.
I agree. Preston Perry would be great for a part 2 or 3
YESSSSSSS!!!!! I posted the exact same thing not knowing you made this comment!
Has to be a female voice for the shape of this podcast. But Jackie and so many others could speak to some of the misinformation regarding the faith being forced on Africa. There is historical writings of African theologians well before the transatlantic slave trade. I also wonder would someone of Palestinian or Ethiopian decent be considered a white man? There are too many scholarly resources for the old trope to continue being believed and articulated by those who could easily access them.
Listennnn B Simone did her thing with this conversation. Relationship NOT religion. I love this conversation so much.
The way God is about to work through B. Simone she has no idea. I love conversations like this also admire her faith and courage. God bless you sis 🙏🏽
He doesn’t exist outside of you. Edith understands that she is part of nature and if you want to call nature God then she is wherever God is.
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🤔 For many, it’s hard to believe bc nature is not a Diety! It has made no sacrifice, shed no blood, been resurrected, gave up the ghost, has no power to save souls…Do you pray to nature? And does it answer? Cant imagine no heaven…
I enjoyed the conversation. However, I am unsure if it was a conversation because B Simone is so new to her faith. Tiffany Cross needed a more seasoned Christian who could respond more thoroughly and knowledgeable. However, I love her newfound zeal for Christ. I just needed her to have about three years more experience and education.
Facts 🎉
But what she said was essential is building a relationship with God and not religion… some are so caught up in the “pastor” that they don’t know who God is…God is not with you when we deal in foolishness!!
I completely agree with you! It would have been more beneficially for the ladies so that more of their answers could have been answered. However, she then again could have been perfect for the platform because neither one of the other ladies seemed morally interested in what she was saying but wanted to go against her. She was light in information because she is new, that's what they needed because if a seasoned Christian was on the podcast, it wouldn't have gone so smooth with some of the things they were saying. They were rude to me, making a joke on how Mary got pregnant, and she was a teenager, knowing she couldn't answer deep questions and when the older lady talked about turning back into dust she never once stated or made a rude comment. Also stating the negatives about the church, she never stated anything negative about what they expressed, just to get her to talk bad about the faith and when she agreed, their faces were relaxed like see there that's why I don't believe, as if people aren't human.
Like Edith saying, Jesus was thrown under the bus so God can get clout, how negative, when b Simone NEVER said anything about her silly stuff.
I agree
So glad that Edith was there to share her experience and represent the non-believers. I deconverted some years ago over a long period of time. It was when I was “deepening” my faith that I came to a conclusion I wasn’t expecting. I feel more free, have more compassion for others as a non-believer than I did as a believer. Some of the most “Christian” people are not Christians at all.
My experience has been the same. I've been a Humanist for some time now. I was actually taken aback by B. Simone believing that non-believers would be committed to a permanent hell. This is why it was so easy to spread Christianity by the sword. People are really convinced to support the darkest, most violent acts in service to their God.
My experience was somewhat similar except I was attempting to confirm my beliefs due to questions. The questions only led to more questions and ultimately disbelief in any particular religion or doctrine. I still believe there is some sort of existence that created everything, but unfortunately humans aren't able to understand or have knowledge about it and definitely can't speak or write on behalf of it. But it doesn't make me feel free to lose my beliefs. It is disappointing and leaves a hole that a belief in a loving, powerful God that would one day save us all use to fill.
Being a non Christian because if people is sad, you're responsible fir your salvation and for your studying . You will be lost
“The most Christian people are not people at all.”
That part. Most of the time Christians spend their time infighting and defending themselves against other Christians. Christians are increasingly rejecting the order that organized religion can offer in favor of their secular daily approach to life. So they should have no smoke with atheists 😂
@@truettadevilwe were made in God image which means we are capable of emulating God qualities. Just because you are not a believer does not mean you cannot display great qualities , However, serving God and give him praise is required from everyone and their is no other choice. There is one true God and multiple other false gods.
The unbelief spoken here is rooted in lack of understanding and feeling let down by what they expecting God to do.
Most of it is rooted in the absolute impossibility of a God and also the fact that religion is packaged in forms that provide more harm than good to humanity
*By what they were told God would/could do.
Tiffany, this was a great conversation. Please have Part 2 with Jackie Hill-Perry!
I think this would be a beautiful convo
This!
I don't think this was meant to be a debate or to pit a believer and non-believer against each other. I think this was perfectly done because these 3 ladies represent everyone... just regular people in a different phase of their religiosity. None of them having all the answers, but just having a conversation. B. Simone represents most Christians who have a deep faith, but have never read the Bible fully. The other lady represents a lot of Black atheists who went on a personal journey that led them to atheism. Giant is the "spiritual-but-not-religious" type that believes in a creator force, but not a Christian God. This was perfectly done 🙏🏼
@@truettadevilI agree
Greetings! We really appreciate Across Generations for reaching out to us to include the nonreligious perspective in this conversation.
For those saying that there were scholars needed, we contend that it is the voices of everyday people impacted by religion that are the most powerful, especially those who have left the church AND the god concept behind. Their journeys matter, and it is important that Black folks know that our numbers and voices are growing.
Edith did such a fantastic job representing us, and engaging in a nice conversation with Tiffany and B. Shoutout to her for standing firm on the business of evidence and logic!!!
Except, she said she doesn't have faith because she only trust things with evidence, but if that's the case then why would she believe in evolution??
I love the way B Simone articulates herself here! She’s so patient. I can tell she knows God!
My faith in God grew stronger outside the church.
26:07 that's what happened to me. I read the entire bible and found out I was not much of a believer as I thought - Yeeeeees Edith, come on through sis!
Same here! In that way, it makes sense that B. Simone’s newfound faith is based on what people are telling her versus the Bible. It’s much easier to craft a story for belief without a potential believer freely reading the Bible. Much of what’s presented in church, Bible studies, Sunday schools, small groups is limited to the carrot and/or the stick. An appeal to ego or appeal to fear with the ultimate message being one of control. Everything I read on my own was never presented in church settings or what believers would tell me. I was shocked by what I discovered and clearly saw the musings of ancient men, with limited knowledge of the world written on paper
I have friends who have read the Bible about 3 times and are still going strong in the faith ❤💪🏼😂
@@rlllatsyrc I can relate to that. I encountered troubling passages in the Bible over 15 years prior to deconverting. I didn’t want to accept what I was reading so I chose not to and basically cherry picked the content that allowed me to more easily accept the belief. I practiced “faith”. I chose not to think about those things and certainly to avoid saying it out loud. It’s called cognitive dissonance
@@rlllatsyrc lol
@@rlllatsyrcthere is a group of atheistic pastors that are still preaching. Going strong in the faith is what we see... but we cannot see into someone's mind & heart.
As I listen to this conversation, I realize how blessed I've been to have encountered educated, Bible teachers and preachers who understand how Biblical events and history go hand-in-hand. When you understand where the events in the Bible took place, for example, you would know the Bible wasn't written by white men. It was translated by them- we know that. While I appreciated the conversation, so many of the statements made by Tiffany and Edith were simply inaccurate and it's sad that those things are informing their belief/disbelief. I'm so proud of B. Simone and love that she's using her platform to share openly about her renewed RELATIONSHIP with Christ- because that's what it's all about.
You're wrong here. First of all, we know the KJV has a lot changed based off older versions that are all different. So yeah the white did change the bible. Several times over the centuries. And you definitely don't have a strong basis in history bc you can't name historical events that match up with the bible.
Ref: Red Text in Bibles
I wonder who wrote the words shown in red text in some Bibles attributed to Jesus, as if verbatim -- word for word -- though those subject words in red were written MANY years AFTER Jesus walked the earth in the flesh.
The red words in text are LENGTHY, -- in FOUR gospels, and a bit in Acts. It's NOT possible to quote someone VERBATIM -- word for word -- at such LENGTHS -- ESPECIALLY MANY YEARS later . . . which is when those red words were written.
Inspiration doesn't MEAN necessarily VERBATIM -- WORD FOR WORD,
When Jesus was on the mount of transfiguration -- the Bible DOES NOT mention any scribes being there.
Who took NOTES when Jesus was described as being alone -- YET His very verbatim words were recorded in the Bible as to WHAT HE UTTERED when He was ALONE, according to scripture?
It's NOT possible for HUMAN, FLAWED SPECIMENS to quote -- at that length -- verbatim -- word for word -- MANY years later -- AFTER Jesus walked the earth in the flesh.
Who "recorded" when Jesus was ALONE with -- the Bible says "the devil"? It was expressed that it was JESUS and the devil -- period. Yet, the words THOSE TWO UTTERED -- verbatim -- word for word -- were "recorded" in the Bible.
I don't, however, agree relative to Jesus and the LENGTHY red text in some Bibles attributed -- as verbatim -- word for word -- expressions UTTERED by Jesus - EVEN WHEN HE WAS ALONE . . . with NO ONE present to SCRIBE.
That doesn't effectively explain when no scribes were present -- and when Jesus was ALONE -- with the Bible says -- "the devil -- and how those words were "recorded" in the Bible as being expressed by Jesus and the devil -- if only THOSE TWO were present for that subject encounter.
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More reasons why I AND OTHERS -- REASONABLY -- don’t believe that the Bible content is ENTIRELY accurate and WHOLLY true.
Zero original copies of the Bible exist, so it can't be a book of God. It is a book of men meant to replace matriarchal worship with partisanship worship.
B. Simone has a relationship with Jesus, but she's never read the Bible, so it doesn't seem like the Bible is necessary at all 🙏🏼
I loved the conversation, how you ladies were able to discuss this in a cordial manner. Edith did an excellent job representing much of my views. I wish B. Simone had more biblical knowledge to speak to and I was surprised that much of her religious convictions were not biblical based. Especially since she grew up in the church as a pastor’s kid. I felt this limited how deep this conversation could have gone. I would be interested in hearing her views after reading more of the Bible. She seemed unfamiliar with quite a few topics as well. Great job Edith!
BIG ON RELATIONSHIP NOT RELIGION. in jesus you will find peace proud of B simone being able to share without judgement truly can see god working in her
I pray every person who doesn’t know Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior, will have an encounter with Him that’s undeniable! I declare and decree it so in His matchless name. Amen
Why would this prayer be necessary? Is he the creator of all things, including the universe? If everyone can see the Sun and feel it's warmth, why can't everyone see Jesus and feel him without prayer?
B. Simone is walking in Christ for real. The evidence of Jesus is working through you. Your convictions are soooo refreshing . Seek & you will find…. ❤
I’m a believer and Love Jesus as my personal savior 40 years old black women
I really feel that intro, talking about growing up in the church and seeing everyone catching the holy-ghost except me. I used to love going to church and I would go without my parents for a good portion of my childhood. I graduated from a private christian high school where we had chapel every Tuesday and Thursday.
As I delved deeper into the Bible and explored various world religions, including Christianity, it became increasingly evident that organized religion was not conducive to my personal spiritual journey. The lack of interest in probing deeper during my time in Sunday school, which prompted odd glances when I asked thought-provoking questions, led me to realize that my intellectual growth challenged the status quo. This discrepancy between preached ideals and societal norms fueled my growing disillusionment with the church, as it became clear that adhering strictly to 2,000-year-old teachings without seeking deeper meanings or relevance to modern society felt more self-serving than truly worshipful.
This was a great conversation. As a former devout Christian who based her belief on, "relationship not religion," I understand that concept too well. I am so happy to say that there is so much more peace, joy and honesty for me now that I am a nonbeliever. Shout out to my fellow atheists!❤
Ditto ❤
Some people mistake lack of accountability with peace!
Right back atcha Kimberley Sprowl 🫶🏾
@@benworthmore621that’s actually not true. Lack of accountability naturally makes people more anxious. Humans generally need order. Religion or theism is only one of various ways to have accountability. Otherwise, civility is a form of accountability, so is secular humanism as an ideology. But no human comes into the world not desiring boundaries. It is a stressful existence.
Your comment seems to shade but let me know if I am reading it wrong. What you may be coyly suggesting is people need an “ultimate” accountability, and it is that of a god. Well trust me when I say, when you leave theism behind, it’s no less desired to be good, honest, and right by your fellow human. What changes is the petty squabbles over how often you go to church, conflicts over premarital sex, marriage, and children outside of marriage, all of which most Christians still don’t get right lol.
The only “accountability” Christians brow-beat successfully is the idea of homosexuality and that is easy to do when they are not queer. Otherwise, see my other examples above. They’re not winning in the accountability department on those either.
Hell is where you going. You just happy that you could partake in sin without any accountability
I'm a believer of God and I attend church faithfully. I enjoyed that all the women were respectful during the conversation and not condensing towards one another
This was a balanced & robust discussion that I have never heard regarding faith/God/spirituality. It was a true pleasure to hear this dialog.
Great conversation. Black southern woman here, raised in a deeply religious family (at least on my mom’s side). I no longer believe in a god or entity that exists outside of me that created life, but I do believe something divine and unexplainable exists amongst and betwixt all things; humans, animals, plants, planetary bodies, etc.
I appreciated how B Simone was transparent about her “walk with the lord” being fairly new. I hope she is inquisitive, curious, and explorative enough that she may eventually evolve into a different understanding of her humanity and divinity being something she inherently possesses, without need for an external force.
I want to note something I heard recently on an athiest’s video. I wish I could go back and find it. It struck a chord deeply within me. The commentator was quoting another atheist who mentioned something to the effect of (and I’m totally paraphrasing here) that a person’s god of choice really is a reflection of who that person is, what that person feels, and how that person acts and moves here on earth. In other words, a god confirms a person’s biases. I thought about this as B Simone was describing where she stands on “heaven and hell”. People who subscribe to hierarchical systems in the afterlife, where some people go here and other people go there, generally subscribe to those same systems and inequitable ideologies in their waking life. Unfortunately, that can be a dangerous theology, and it ain’t no liberation in that.
I have to add here: I am learning to allow myself to be angry at Christian perspectives that ultimately harm Black folk and impede our progress. This righteous anger moves me to be more outspoken and to push back against evil practices held by many Christians. Speaking of which, I appreciate you, Tiffany, for stating that your purpose leans towards the liberation of Black folk. I didn’t question or challenge my biases and anti-Blackness till I deconstructed. We need all of us to understand it’s going to take us all to liberate us all.
Another note, Tiffany. You cut your guests off often, I’m guessing because you were wanting to share your experiences, which were all necessary in the unfolding of the conversation. Edith didn’t have an opportunity to finish some of her personal experiences and anecdotes. Perhaps devote more time or more than one episode so that all guests have the space to share their stories that help support their stance. I would like to see both guests back for a part 2.
Thanks for your work, and gratitude to your guests for being open ❤️🖤💚
I had the exact same thought... she kept cutting Edith off, it was very frustrating.
One question, since you no longer believe in God and you believe Christianity stop black people from progressing,what have you accomplished?? Are you richnor what progress you have made that black Christians haven't?
This was a great topic. We need part 2 ‼️‼️
This conversation made me EVEN MORE ASSURED that I made the right decision in coming out, as AN ATHEIST!! WOOHOO!!!
love it, congrats!!!
@@iceddie Thanks!!!
Lord continue your good work in your child B.Simone may you continue to use her Jesus to draw people to you
this went as expected... I hope if you have another convo this important, that you have scholars who can enlighten [especially those listening to the convo]
We don't need scholars to have conversations. You might be thinking about debates 🤔
Jesus is the way truth and life 💗 So gracious and speaks to us daily, we just have to seek him and turn down the volume of the world to hear him. God bless you all 💗 I’m 31 and was into witchcraft, drunkenness, depression.. and he radically saved me. Like B said , “you will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart” Jeremiah. ♥️
AMEN!!
Important conversation. I would love to see a part two of this with guests who are scholars, know the Bible, and know the history of Christianity. That would clear up a lot of mis-statements that have been made in this episode. Saying I don't know everytime a tough question comes up makes it challenging... Please bring folks on the platform who have studied, who do know, and have come to different conclusions.
Absolutely agree, this was just unfair and it really felt like a trap to me. If there's going to be a series on this specific topic, I'd suggest she invites new believers, new atheists etc....
I don't know is the best answer. I found that atheists dislike the "I know everything christians" and the gray areas have actually been the tool that led them to finding God. Jesus certainly did not answer every question or justify his answers to argue or debate.
@@athenkosinxitywa5540B. Simone has been a Christian for 30 years, why do you think this dynamic was lopsided? B. Simone was also given more time to speak than Edith.
Yall need to have this conversation with Jackie Hill Perry, Tiphani Montgomery or Stephanie Ike. B Simone isn’t quite ready for these conversations although she did do okay. This conversation would be different with people that aren’t babes in Christ
Facts I would love to see one of them on this show
I think Jackie Hill and Stephanie Ike was once at the level of B Simone, you gotta start somewhere the more she continues these conversations the more she will grow in her faith and knowledge of truth.
I don't think this was meant to be a debate or to pit a believer and non-believer against each other. I think this was perfectly done because these 3 ladies represent everyone... just regular people in a different phase of their religiosity. None of them having all the answers, but just having a conversation. B. Simone represents most Christians who have a deep faith, but have never read the Bible fully. Edith represents a lot of Black atheists who went on a personal journey that led them to atheism. Tiffany is the "spiritual-but-not-religious" type that believes in a creator force, but not a Christian God. This was perfectly done 🙏🏼
I don't think this comment could be anymore belittling and judgemental? Each individual's walk is their own journey and VERY valid.. imagine placing 'levels' on something so beautiful regardless..
Babes in Christ?? 🤨😑
Amen to this! Respect to B Simone but someone more seasoned in biblical scripture needed to sit with Tiffany, and the atheist (sorry don’t recall her name).
Cross has done it AGAIN! (hits subscribe) This discussion is DEEP and necessary, HOWEVER… some folk prefer to swim in shallow waters.
If you read the Bible from beginning to end…from Genesis to Revelation, while reading with all your heart and all your soul and all your mind and all your strength, the word of GOD begins to speak to you.
My whole life I believed in God but never read his instructions ALL THE WAY THROUGH. Now that I’ve done it and God revealed himself in the process, I will never be the same and he’s ALL I CAN TALK ABOUT!
I dare somebody to read it. Genesis to Revelation. I double dare you.
I've read the Bible several times... which is how I became an atheist. I also studied Biblical transcription in college. It's interesting that God chose a book to communicate himself to people at a time when 99% of the world was illiterate and even today, most Christians have not read it.
This was a great conversation. I Am a Believer!!!
There are a lot of people who like B Simone said confuse religion with relationship. Most pastors have done a poor job in teaching the Bible and people have done a poor job in studying the Bible for themselves. It’s a huge difference in taking the word of anyone at face value without being intentional about searching and seeking the truth. We believe and have faith in so many things without questioning their validity. God created man with free will to choose and make decisions. In the Bible it speaks of the times we live in. People falling away from the faith, wars, rumors of wars, families, families turning against each other, etc. What book does anyone know of that speaks of things to come that are happening and will happen. As we look at the state of the world, the US will most likely implode from within because of our arrogance and unbelief. Find a church where the Word is taught, discipleship is a priority, and Bible study is essential. That’s what the young people are searching for.
Thankyou Cynthia for your comments, mine are very similar to yours so I decided to just add to your comments by saying that I grew up in a Baptist Church and was Baptised at a very young age but I wasn't able to appreciate how important it was to put all of my Faith and Trust in God until , I became more mature in my walk with God and having a personal and spiritual relationship with him. I've read the Bible, still read the Bible, I am in a couple of Bible studies and unless you really want to become a believer you have to seek him and hear his word from someone who is delivering God's message and not man or woman's message. When people put their trust in Man (flesh and worldly) their is always disappointments but when we focus on having a sincere relationship with God it's a Peace that surpasses all understanding. I believe that the women that are non - believers have not appreciated the fact that if it wasn't for our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ that was sacrificed for our sins and that God continues to give us Grace and Mercy because we are still in the world as flesh and flawed human beings but when we truly want to have peace and joy no matter what circumstances or trials that we are going through I know that they call out Jesus Name and God's Name and not man's name or an idolatry name. So many Christians and Non-Christians misinterpret and misrepresent the messages that Jesus and God wants us to follow because it doesn't make them feel good about obsessive behaviors. The message is Love God, Love Yourself and Love Your Neighbor. With so much hatred and division why wouldn't you want to Pray to A Heavily Father that created Us for Love, Peace and Harmony for flawed humans while we are still living in the flesh. I hope I made sense of being a believer and not a Christian or non - Christian. Peace ✌ and Blessings 🙌To All 🫶
For 10 years now I have evolved into a non believer. I have had these conversations like this for years. It started with reading the Bible then studying the Torah and Quran. Learning about ancient Kemet, Buddhism, Hinduism and learning about Ancient African traditions.
That's what happens when you're on a real journey and not just asking Christians who are stronger in their faith to help you become stronger in your faith.
It means Satan has gotten to you
@@melodyholt500 Satan isn't real, honey. The only evil is you trying to weaponize your fake God against me 🙄 I'm no more afraid of your god than I am afraid of Santa 🎅 or Tinkerbell 🧚♂️
@@melodyholt500 I’m glad you say that because now, I’m less judge mental, I’m more compassionate, I care for the planet way more. I’m more accountable for my actions. I’m more understanding and tolerant of living individuals. So imagine me being a better person by being in the grips of your so called devil is better then most so called Christians/ godly folks.
Even when she ended with “God bless us all” if one doesn’t believe then there’s nothing. Which brings it back to prove what B. Simone said without God and having that separation you are nothing. I don’t want to be without God for all of eternity 😮💨 being far from him is one thing but to be WITHOUT is another. People better get it together and believe!
Thank you for this …i wish we would have more conversations about this!!!
This is the first video I’ve seen of yours but Tiffany I am so grateful that you used your platform to share this conversation. It can feel really isolating as a black woman who is not religious. This made me feel less alienated knowing that other black women have questions like these too.
Wow! What a conversation. The carnality of men can turn you away from the church. I've been there. The perversion of the Word (i.e. using it to justify evil practices) can bring forth bitterness. I feel ya! It is ok to doubt - as B. Simone said - seek Him. Read His Word. He will show Himself. While seeking Him (crying out to Him), He's revealed himself to me. I beleive and I am continuously building my relationship with Him. God is LOVE!
Lmao when Tiff let out the soft “well why…😫” when B was explaining that you know why you shouldn’t smoke weed! 😂
Really enjoyed this epidsode.
Funny coincidence: My remote died while waiting for Amazon to deliver batteries, and UA-cam seems to be on a binge-watching spree of your content.
Just yesterday, I was talking to my mom about how my belief in God has always been strong. Even my faith in Jesus lasted longer than my involvement in church. It only weakened in the past decade due to a bad relationship (willfully dated someone who turned out to be a negative influence, thinking I could help them). Through that whole experience, my belief in God never wavered.
I stopped attending after my pastor passed away while I was away at college (2005). I tried going back to my old church, but it felt different. Recently went for Mother's Day, and despite the lingering disconnect, I've been considering returning. However, I can't force myself to commit if it doesn't feel right.
I think this was an interesting conversation and these questions are all valid. Faith is not about knowing all the answers but staying curious about why you believe in what you believe. There are so many scholars who have dedicated their lives to understanding faith, religion, and have provided new insights to these conversations.
This was a good, open, and honest discussion. We need all views to respect others.
I love and respect B. so much. I love how she is honest about her personal relationship with God! This is what it looks like to desire a real relationship with God. She is not faking like she has it all together. I am on my own journey and i find her so relatable. This conversation was necessary! God is using B. to bring people to Christ or develop a deeper relationship.
I heard the frustration and the yearning in Tiffany's voice when trying Tiffany trying to understand the spiritual component. She wanted the concrete descriptions e.g. see, taste, touch, small, etc). What was missing with Jesus dying on the cross was about creating a pathway for us to be reconciled back to God. The sacrifice was required. The physical realm is 2D and the spirit realm is 3D. Trying explain to a circle how to become a sphere is the hard part.
Why would God make it hard for anyone to know him? He didn't make it hard for anyone to eat from the tree. He put it right in front of people.
Travel to Israel, Jerusalem, Babylon,😮Bethlehem, Galilee, Capernaum, etc. for historical evidence! And consistently the Sun has risen, the moon has appeared, God has consistently woke me up and kept me breathing overnight! And God speaks to me and answers my prayers, and shows me His faithfulness!
I’m m gonna be honest with you ma’am those aren’t the real places for historical accuracy
Beautiful show! Loved the conversation!
Omg your opening statement was everything that I had felt.
Jackie Hill Perry would be an excellent person to include in this conversation.
Hopefully there will be further discussions on this topic. And could I suggest that you have Mandisa Thomas, from Black Non-Believers, on your next panel. She is FANTASTIC!!!!
I haven't heard that name in YEARS! She's still out there fighting the good fight?? I didn't know I was an an l atheist until I read about her Facebook group in the New York Times 2 decades ago!
I really loved this ❤❤❤ B. Simone👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 I appreciate all the ladies for their open perspectives on the matter. So good🫶🏾
We must remember…. We ARE the church!!!
Great conversation ladies ✨️ reguardless of anything, I feel like you all spoke the same language; love, faith/and or belief in something outside of yourself. Those are the 3 things that were the same, and I feel like that's how God speaks and connects with us all. He's always inside of us. Sometimes what we do outside of ourselves is meant to provide physical evidence and proof of the love and goodness that He has already instilled in each and every one of us. His language and His character dwells in each of us 🤍🙏🏽 sending you all so much love and light ✨️
Excellent experience of faith! Dionne Warwick believes in being true to her elderly ladies voice by not pushing it as it's in very rusty shape today. Let's offer her praise that she can still sing and attract interest at 85! Beautiful effort ❤
I’m an unapologetic Christian that attends church and has a relationship with God. I believe Hebrew’s 10:25-not forsaking the assembly of ourselves. I am blessed to enjoy life and find peace in knowing I have an option now or later to where I will spend eternity!
I have read the Bible from the beginning to the end, and my Faith is strong.
This conversation was important and it further highlights the importance of context. With everything in our lives, context is necessary. Without context, there is an opportunity for you to get conned.
I need to see this conversation adding an omnist - those with no specific religion but believe there is truth to each one.
I am a believer
I go to church (fellowship with other believers to live/ do life with them, learn, Teach, and serve, correct, be corrected, encourage, be encouraged, edify and be edified).
I love god and his church
I love my relationship with him
I love religion (that which binds us)
If you have another show on this subject please always have a guest who is a non-believer or just spiritual, agnostic as you did on this show
This was a really interesting convo. I grew up in the church with a father who was a deacon. But over the years, due to seeing awful behavior within the church and from church folk, decided to find the answers to so many things that confused me about religion. After many years I found that I no longer believe in religion. I now feel enlightened and empowered knowing that it is I that controls my life and behavior and not an entity. I now move through life like Edith, being kind and treating others as I would want to be treated, without expecting a place in heaven or some sort of reward. I do also understand the importance of religion and how it has saved and helped so many people, so I don't try to sway people one way or the other. This episode was a great look into both sides of the coins without the presence of judgement.
Good morning. I was so excited about this topic but so disappointed in not seeing a Muslim as a guest.
Black Muslims are a major part of the Black community and have played a significant role in the religious experience and scholarship for the diaspora.
We are often left out of conversations about the Black community, and I want to see us represented.
Agreed. An Islamic perspective would've been great. Our community is mostly Christians &Muslims.
TIFFANY I RECIEVED THE HOLY GHOST BY PRAYING FASTING AND MEDITATING ON THE WORD OF GOD. I DID IT UNTIL HE FILLED ME DEC 09. 1989 AND AGAIN ON OCTOBER 22, 1997, AND FINALLY ON FEBRUARY 27, 1999 I SPOKE IN TONGUES IT WAS BEAUTIFUL
I disagree because the show only has two guests. If you're having a discussion about the belief divide within the Black American community, you need to include one Christian and one atheist/agnostic person. You couldn't have this discussion without either.
Great conversation 👍🏾👍🏾👍🏾
I love how interactive B. Simone is
Shoutout to my fellow non believers
Backatcha!
PROUD non-believer right "chere"!!! Lol!
We in the building!!!
@@truettadevilSAY THAT!!!
I'm here!!!!
Tiffany I can relate to what you're saying and your belief. I just had this conversation with my coworkers. The conversation I had led me to realize that it's ok not to believe in the bible but to establish my own personal relationship. It gave me such a sense of relief when I came to this realization. Like a weight had been lifted because I always felt so conflicted.
Well I must say Tiff this was interesting. I love B's walk that she is on. I am working on my faith journey also. Greek up in church real bed side baptist since covid and that's works for me because I want the word. I sometimes listen to 3 services on Sunday may watch one or two during the week. I want a relationship like B spoke of, cause when I look back something kept me sane.
So to each his own tou do what works for you can't knock what someone else believes or doesn't believe. Great episode Tiffany
I love this show!!! Ms. Tiffany, you are awesome and amazing!!! Thank you for being such a force that we need in this scary world. You are loved and prayed for.
Keeping moving forward knowing that we love, follow and support you.
U a Christian because massa was a Christian 😊😅
I appreciate BSimone Boldness. This podcast was gooOOOOood. And I love how when the words needed to be said, her speech was powerful and meaningful. I didn’t have some huge experience in coming to Christ, it was more out of looking for something deeper with God. Like the verse she stated Jeremiah 29:13. Relationship over religion. That needs to be a mantra on a shirt. Because it’s TRUE.
This was a beautiful conversation.
B Simone!!! Praise God!! For your testimony!!! Hallelujah Thank you Jesus!!!🙏🏽
B Simone was not the right person to bring on as the best representation of Christ since she is still learning. Jackie Hill Perry or Tiphani Montgomery would be able to give a better perspective
Everyone is still learning but I do think Jackie and Tiphani would have been better in articulating the answer to their questions
As a spiritual practitioner, I don’t aim to convert people away from their chosen religious postures. Those are personal choices. I don’t trespass on what others believe nor do I allow others to trespass on what I believe. If people ask me about what I believe, I share what I’m inclined to share.
I do have a very low tolerance for people who don’t take their religion seriously, but judge how - spiritual - people DO take our spirituality - seriously.
Christianity was spread via the sword and the whip.
@@truettadevil false. Show factual evidence of this truth claim. Islam was spread by the sword and whip.
As a former fervent Christian, for many years - I later learned better so departed the confines of religion. Currently, I’m spiritual as were our ancestors. Spirituality existed - before - the Bible and the creation of religions, including Christianity. All religions contain some truths, but overall, they do more harm than good.
I’m just curious of your view:
What do you believe is the author or truth? Is it reflected or backed by historical evidence??
@@Rashard_D Minutes ago, I posted about four links in the comment section here. They should give you some relevant answers.
Same here! I feel like organized religions need to start making more historical impact on the modern day world rather than resting on 2000+ year old fables. These religions, with their vast numbers, possess the potential to effect significant positive change on a global scale if they chose to do so. The biblical adage stating that it is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter heaven seems to fall by the wayside, while many billionaires amass wealth unchecked and children continue to suffer from hunger. Envision a scenario where millions of Christians united in protest against child or world hunger - the impact would be immense. However, the focus often remains on individualistic concerns, such as praying for one of the parishioners who is in the hospital instead of influencing policies for free healthcare, or instilling shame or guilt regarding natural sexual impulses, or fixating on issues that fail to drive forward societal progress as a whole like racial equality and unity. 😢
Did you have an encounter with God prior to leaving?
@@Donkor640exactly... the Black church did nothing to make sure we were going to have universal Healthcare. But, they let them corrupt politicians come in an lie to Black folk to get their votes 🙄 They're should be no one hungry in a town that has at least 1 church. But, they'd rather sit through a 4-hour sermon than to check on their neighbors for 4 hours on Sunday.
Awesome Host!
Popular Christian doctrine and teachings create the kind of confusion that leads to non-believers. It’s understandable. I urge everyone to seek the truth, even pray for it.
THIS! That’s why younger folk are leaving the church. The math don’t math. They’re not following just to be followers. They need substance. Relationship brings that. Jesus taught that, be it was lost somewhere somehow along the way.
The beautiful woman in the orange may not realize it but it sounds like when she did “believe” she was seeking herself, what she wanted to hear, how she wanted to hear it, what she wanted to see, & how she wanted to see it. When you seek something/someone for what it is. You open your heart to receive whatever it reveals to you not what you want or don’t want to get out of it.
I am a Christian and as I listened/ watched this pod the three of them are believers. Everything the "Atheist" said she does believe in the qualities of God. Tiffany I think is in a great place because she knows how to search out the truth, Tiffany your work has just begun. B. Simone beautiful baby Christian. You are right, I stop focusing on the religion, rules and regulations. Can we just focus on the relationship? What works for me doesn't work for everyone. I would like to encourage you to watch Lisa Harper, she is a funny Bible scholar that dispelled beliefs that I believed were right and blindly accepted as truth. Dr. Eric Mason is someone to just have in your pocket. I am in love with Christ.
Life is so much happier when your mind is free from religious programming
This conversation was very timely for me. I am a Christian, I believe in God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit. What I have an issue with is the church. I stopped attending regular Sunday service in 2018. I got tired of all the "mess" that goes on in the church. Cheating scandals, people stealing money, overbearing people, etc. etc. etc. I always felt the two places I should always be at peace are in my house and God's house, and I no longer felt it in the church. Then Covid-19 came along and everyone started streaming their Sunday services. So I started watching the church from my hometown where I'm originally from online. I also send an offering to them each month. This has been a good option for me, because I do still need that Godly word and to hear some good Gospel music now and again. I believe as long as I believe in God, am doing what is right, and living a peaceful existence, He's okay with that.
God is a Beautiful Spirit who created Earth 🌍 Period 🙌🏽
His Aura of Peace is unbelievable. I know he is REAL. Can’t nobody do what God is doing. He controls the Breath we breathe everyday. He gifted Scientists to study his Beautiful work. They sometime think they are God but they are not. 🙌🏽🙏🏽🤎🥰
Just saying this is not enough. God should be a lot kinder and nicer and logical than what most religions try and portray God to be. Humans create religions and then their version of morality and virtuous living is imprinted onto who they believe (pretend) god is. The Muslims think God will give good men 72 virgins after they die. Why would a God be concerned about that?
Christians think God sent his son into the world to die so that every human can have a way to win the game through Christ sacrifice. But couldn't a logical God make a universe where human sacrifice of any kind was never necessary? Couldn't a loving and logical God create a universe where there was no evil and no inclination inside of us to do evil acts? No Satan and no sin and no trees with forbidden fruit. Just a regular, comfortable, everlasting universe? If God is all powerful and perfect in every way, all of his creation, all of his decisions, all of his attributes should reflect that perfection and Supreme rationality.
But God in every religion is just the hopes and wishes we have personified by a invisible imaginary being. Ya'll want God to be real because it benefits you, but what if you all had to live in a universe where God just didn't care so much about what happens to humans or the earth itself. We act so audacious, begging the universe to validate us when it's really not necessary. We have lived on this planet for centuries and at no point has any real God given irrefutable evidence that it is real and always watching our every move.
We don't need God. And the universe hasn't felt it necessary to show us that we do need God. We live in a universe where any random asteroid can crash into this planet and kill us in a matter of minutes or hours. Regardless of your religion, if that were to happen it would just be over. No end times prophecies, no book of revelations, no battle of ragnorok, just immediate annihilation and that would be the end. There is proof that our milky way galaxy is chaotic, there is no proof that God is keeping us safe from asteroids.
No God thought it necessary to keep 12.5 million slaves safe from slavery. 12.5 million innocent lives of African humans lost to a barbaric and evil system of oppression and devastation. No God cared about the slaves, Abraham Lincoln (a white man) had to make the legal moves to free the slaves. Osiris, Ra, Thor, Vishnu, Oshun, And especially Jesus and his Father, none of them stopped slavery. Why do we need to force ourselves to believe in a god that doesn't value human life unless it's your individual life? B Simone is more important to God than her 12.5 million African ancestors that were enslaved?
Being an atheist is the natural maturation of humanity. We all should be atheist, we all should be mature enough to see the universe we live in for what it is, and not what we want it to be based on our fear and insecurities and ignorance. We don't need the universe to show us who God is. We pretend knowing there is a God is important, we could be doing a lot better stuff on this planet if we were not so preoccupied with searching for a God that is perpetually hiding from us.
Most black people are only Christians because our ancestors had the religion beaten into them by their slave owners. if ya'll believe God loves you there should have been a more humane and non violent way for you to receive "the gospel" without your 12.5 million of your African ancestors being enslaved and brutalized by Europeans that called themselves civilized Christians. God should have loved our ancestors more than that.
I hope ya'll don't let the fear of death and the made up concept of hell, keep ya'll stuck in this Religious mindset where ya'll believe something just because it feels better to have followed Christianity and then die expecting a heaven on the other side, as opposed to the bleak but honest reality that there probably isn't anything beyond death. In the same way we don't know if God exist, we also have no clue what happens to us when we die. Regardless of all the liars and people that want to spread misinformation about having religious experiences of going to hell in a near death experience and then coming back to life, that is fake. Fear mongering to keep people ignorant and deceived.
I encourage you Christians to really test your religion and your beliefs, analyze why you are apart of Christianity and the impact your shared beliefs have on the world both now and in the past. Being a atheist isn't just saying "I don't know if there is a god". Being an atheist means you have done your due diligence to comprehend the logic of believing what any modern religion wants you to believe. Atheists looked for God and stopped based on the evidence of the non existence of any God, religious people think they have found God and are intellectually stagnant because of that.
Life is better when you don't have to live in constant fear of a hell or disobeying this god who let Egyptian boys die because they were the first born sons.
This was a wonderful experience...Your gifts will make room for you and this is an example that the Almighty God exists..... this episode shows that atheists are believers they just don't believe in a man made religion. God is Almighty(ALL).
Dope episode! ❤
This conversation is EVERYTHING and I am 100% here for it. I can honestly say that I identify myself in each and everyone of the women present in this dialogue. When Tiffany started the video confessing that she has not attended church in years, any guard I may have had up as I prepared to watch this video immediately came down. Similar to all of these ladies, I grew up in church and have identified as a Christian all of my life (in which now I don't identify as Christian for my own personal reasons but rather a follower of Christ). I have attended church faithfully ever since I can remember until this year. Similar to B, I am definitely on a spiritual journey to understand my faith, why I believe what I believe, and have contemplated attending seminary school because... I HAVE QUESTIONS... SO MANY OF THEM!
The more I live, the more I question the things that I have been taught in church. Similar to Tiffany, due to personal reasons, I too have made a decision not to attend church in this season of my life. I'm not saying attending church will never be in the cards for me (as I still go from time to time, i.e: Mother's Day w/ my mom) but for now, attending regularly is just not in the cards as I don't find the value in it that I once did. I was recently gifted a trip to my husband's home in Ghana for my 40th birthday and while there, we visited the Cape Coast Castle and I learned exactly what Tiffany described, how right above the dungeon in which they held the slaves before shipping them off like cargo all over the world and literally left those who fought for their freedom to die in a dark cave, they established a church for worship. I for the life of me can't understand how this can be... who in the world were they worshipping?
I absolutely maintain my faith and relationship w/ God because, well, I need it! As they mentioned in the video it does ground me and I truly feel empty without it. I truly do feel that I am the best version of myself when I'm following Christ. However, that doesn't prevent me from having real questions. So, obviously I'm not an atheist, but I can also identify myself in the non-believing sister. I literally posted a video on my channel titled, "Dear God, Why Is Evil A Thing?" I am seriously having a hard time reconciling certain things mentioned in the Bible with the God I am in relationship with. Jn. 1:1-3 states, "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 The same was in the beginning with God. 3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made." If that be the case, and nothing exists without God creating it, did God create evil? If so, this is hard for me to understand. It is my belief that God is a good God, so how could good and evil be created from the same source? If God is the Creator of everything and all knowing, then He had the choice to create an existence where His Son would have to go die for the sins of others and damn His creation to hell who chose not to follow Him... or NOT! But He chose to create it this way and I don't understand it. And then He made the decision to start over because things were going left. So he wiped out existence with the exception of Noah, his family, and some animals and allowed us a "do-over". Somehow, seeing everything that would transpire (slavery, wars, child abuse, parent abuse, mass murders, good people who tragically lose their lives early to illnesses like cancer while hateful people live on and their hatred allowed to continue to spread throughout generations... the list goes on) and said, "Ok, yep... that's better!" I know this might come across as hypocritical, but I'm not trying to be. I'm just seriously trying to understand.
Ok, I've wrote a novel so I'll digress and stop here. But I do want to end by saying I appreciate how this conversation was dialogue just for dialogue sake and not to try and convince people one way or another and I greatly appreciate the respect each lady had for one another even though they may have had opposing views, opinions and beliefs. Great conversation!
As a child, I had similar questions. Why did God create a tree that could cause so much havoc? Why did he put the tree right in front of people instead of up on a mountain? Why Cosby he sees that not even the first pair were able to resist the tree? Why did he create death?
I'm a believer. So many levels and things, the world is probably not as old as we think, in relation to dinosaurs. They exited, just not in the time frame that's taught. I have read and studied the Bible/Bible College. This is a faith walk, there is a difference between relationship and religion. So much to discuss....
Our God is powerful, and awesome! His proved His power over and over again! Every time I take a breath I know there is a God!! God has healed me, encouraged me, my ultimate Joy comes from God!!! We worship on the Sabbath and observe God’s Holy Days!! Jesus Christ and his disciples also observed the Holy Days.
We definitely will meet hurtful people in the church, we are human.
Wow B Simon’s experience reminds me of my mine. I grow up in the Catholic Church. However, I never had a relationship with Christ until I experienced an encounter.
Tiffany Cross is so gorgeous 😍 I love the sound of her voice...🥰
Yes B yes!!!!! We don't know what's on the other side. If the WORD is true, which I believe it is. It informs us of our eternal end. If you really want to know the truth you have to ask the one who holds the truth and that is God. Ask God in sincerity and he will reveal himself to you.
People believe that a loving God is on board with people burning in a place called hell for eternity. Christians insist that accepting Jesus is the only way to escape hell. What about, for instance, people in regions of the world who live in tribes and such who will never have Jesus expressed to them? Are we to believe that they will go to hell?! Of course, that makes no sense.
That’s a question I threw out during Sunday school as a teen and the teacher looked at me like I was trying to start trouble! 😄
I was legitimately concerned about this framework that dooms so many people to hell! I’m an Empath so I would legitimately lose sleep over these thoughts until I just let it all go!
And how surprised are the other religions going to be when they die and end up in line for the Christian Heaven/Hell Transfer station???
@glorytrumps valid question. Please could you name some of the tribes that come to your mind?
@@Mariepurpose No, I cannot, readily, do so. But I’m sure that there are many people who have never heard of the gospel of Jesus. Sometime ago, I learned about some such people, but don’t remember. You can do a Google research if you’re inclined.
@@Mariepurpose there are still some tribes that haven’t had sustainable outside contact with the modern world, and they’re probably better off without it. That’s not to mention the communities around the world that have sustained contact with the outside world but are choosing not to participate.
I don’t think this is a bad thing when you consider the path of destruction that missionaries often leave in their wake.
If it helps, the bible says that God is just & that you aren’t held accountable for what you don’t know.
If God is just i have to believe he will render to me what is fair.
As for not being help accountable for what you don’t know , that doesn’t just mean that those people will just all go to heaven the bible says they’re basically judged by their conscience. I may have worded some part wrong but i encourage you to look at it for yourself
Men wrote the Bible for an agenda that served them. Yes, the Bible contains some truths and wise teachings, but there is no substitute for our own intuition. Before the Bible and religions came into existence - spirituality was in place. People knew right from wrong. People choose . . . Even animals know what’s in order and what’s not in order.
The way people act in this world and the way Bible wants us to act is not the same. If it was it would be a way better place
I really enjoyed this episode. I listened on apple podcast.
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🕊️I must say that this was a very thought provoking, emotion jerking conversation that is so relevant today, as a firm believer that has experienced much if not all that was discussed it brought so much validation to the conversations I’ve been having with Holy Spirit! I must say when I first started listening I felt this righteous anger at the mocking of Christ but as a host I began to see your defense whether seen or unseen it was refreshing. I will say I do understand the huge amount of ? When trying to understand the walk of Christianity and the huge reliance on faith in its truest essence. The word relationship versus religion was used much and unfortunately you cannot separate the two and still walk this thing out but the underlying concerns and even issues that are attached to the ideology attached to religion are completely valid, I say you cannot separate the two due to the definition of religion; Religion is a complex system of beliefs and practices that helps people answer questions about life, morality, and the universe. It provides a sense of community, comfort, and meaning.
These like so many are misconceptions or blanket statements we make to generalize often times what we cannot fully understand or answer at least that’s my view.
I have been on the harder side of this walk being that my journey has been what many religious individuals would call an abomination so today I understand all sides I say yes from a continued experience of the negativity associated the this particular belief system however I’ve never questioned my relationship with Christ in the sense of turning away from Him in its entirety.
All in all thank for for a great validating episode, while it was my first I’m interested to see what else you have released!
You need Tiphani Montgomery on your show. She didn't grow up in church and has an awesome testimony of how she came to God about 10yrs ago.
B. Simone is doing well for where she is with her faith walk. Jackie Hill-Perry would have been a great source for this conversation.
B. Is correct you gotta seek God with your whole heart and study the word. I was one who struggled with understanding the Trinity. This year I wanted to study the Bible from beginning to end. I’m so happy and thankful to God for understanding and enlightenment.
God says seek and you will find. Key word is seek. A lot of the conversation was based on what is logical or what can be proven by science. God’s word says lean not your own understanding but in all your ways acknowledge Him and He will direct your path.
Science is proof that God exists.
How is science proof that God exists?
Because when doctors/science dont/ cant find the answers they suggest that there might be a higher power.
So we can then ask ourselves who that higher power is.
E.g. Where does the egg and the sperm come from. Once you start to ponder that one, the rest is history
No scientist has been able to answer that simple basic question. @truettadevil
@@Nicole-wp1ye where did God say the egg and sperm came from 🤔 oh right... a pile of dust and a dusty rib 😆
God Breathes life in you everyday. He wakes you up every morning.Nobody can do that but the Spirit of GOD🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🤎
This was interesting. I'm so glad I believe in Jesus Christ for myself and not because I was born and raised in the church. That's why it's so important to have your own personal relationship. For me I don't care if God rose on a Tuesday, he rose. I can careless about the other details. I can careless what the church is doing. There's so many things we believe in that we don't see and we still believe it. Man fails us on a daily. I wish everyone could encounter God and just give him a try. He will give you peace even in your storm. His grace and mercy. I don't deserve and he still blesses me 🙌🏽 I suggest everyone to try him for yourself and relationship.
Do you think there's a reason why God doesn't connect with everyone who is trying to connect with him?
We have to submit to him in totality .
Many times we are trying to straddle the fence.
The bible is clear. We cannot serve 2 masters.
It is either God or ourselves and that means the world led by Satan's manipulation