Nanaki is like someone who isn't comfortable hugging people. Like me. I'm comfortable with family and very close friends but casual friends and acquaintances not so much. The villagers are Nanakis family. It's only natural he shows a side to them that he hasn't with the others yet.
He's more like a juvenile wolf. Wolf pups basically act like dogs, because dogs started out as wolves whose capacity for adult maturity was bred out of them. So if he seems like a very good boy... it's because he is :)
@@silvianogueira4504 Most of the Compilation didn't make sense. While I'm not wild about Remake bringing so much of its canon back, it's at least doing a better job of using it.
@@ladariustownsel5552 The teenager description is likely more about Red's emotional maturity. He's around 50 during the game, but in the after credits 500 years later he looks mostly the same with only some gray. Based on that, his species could probably hit 1000+ easily so he couldn't be a teenager based on age.
Wtf I'm dying lmaoooo!!! The drastic change. 😂😂 So pretty much, Red is still a kid/teen and he only deepens his voice to appear mature because he wants to be an equal on the Team. But his real voice is that of a young kid lol awwww.
On any other occasion, I would think Red's true voice is jarring. But one, it's important to remember that he's a teenager by his species' standards. And two, Max Mittelman is super awesome and talented.
This reminds me of when I met some wolves (well, as genetically close to wolves as was legally permissible for the public to mingle with them) and unlike dogs they had very distinct adult and child behaviours. Real-life dogs had the ability to grow a full-size brain bred out of them, which is why they constantly behave like children. Getting to see Red play both makes a lot more sense to me after learning that. There's always been dispute over whether Red was canine, feline, or a deliberately ambiguous mix of both. There's no doubt in my mind now though; he's a wolf.
I actually really enjoyed Red changing his voice, especially since he still uses the serious one now and then. It really captured the fact he was misleading everyone about his age from the original game into light.😊
When I first heard this, I immediately felt a heart-squeeze. Like, it's out of place really because of his markings, but I don't mind it. He's just the kid here.
I see many people not liking the voice change, but personally, I find it heartwarming how he finally let his walls crumble and was confident enough to finally reveal his true voice. That's some peak character development right there!
Outdoor: More like adultery voice, and somehow a tough one Indoor: Softy voice like a boy, and caring to the village, Dang, 48?! Bro, his lifespan was indeed like an elder if we saw a sequel scene he's litterary 148 years old than a normal animal I've ever seen
and hence another reason the Og ff7 should have had voice acting in it! i had no idea that nanaki canonically spoke with two different tone of voices and that his true voice isn't really how you would expect him to sound! i mean the first crash bandicoot came out a year before final fantasy Vll did an the former had voice over, why couldn't the latter?
well for one crash has like, 10 mins tops of voice acting. whereas ff7 would have had to have several hours of it. and audio takes up a lot of space, now imagine trying to fit in all that onto a game that was already on 3 discs. completely unfeasible.
This is intended though. In the original FF7 they wanted him to have a younger voice once he stopped acting older and mature after this point. However, due to no voice acting in the original FF7, they had to compensate for that by giving him a country accent in the JP version of the original FF7. The original FF7 English version did not give him the country accent to reflect him now having a younger voice and actually a teenager by his species age due to rush translation.
@@goddamnarshia I get it you are not expecting this like many others who only played the English version of the original FF7 and did not know Red is meant to sound like a teenager at this point in the storyline due to faulty english translation when they were working getting FF7 to ENG version. It is one of the original aspect of the game they actually failed to add into the original FF7 for english version not intentionally but as a result of bad translation due to development side of getting the original FF7 from JP version to ENG version. If they had translated Red's dialogue right then he would have had a country accent in his dialogue to reflect he is speaking as a teenager voice after this point in the storyline. As i said already, this is a aspect the original developers wanted since back then they worked on the original FF7 they wanted to show Red using a teenager voice after this point in the storyline but could not do it properly during that time due to no voice actors so they compensated it with a slight change in his dialogue by adding a country accent. Since now they have voice actors, they went with the original plan to just give him a young teenager voice as originally planned instead.
I always wonder what the english version would have been like if they given the country accent after he stop pretending to be older and mature that the JP version of the original FF7 had. Either way glad they can do this scene as originally intended by the original FF7 writers since in the original FF7 they could not show off Red having a younger voice after he stopped pretending due to no voice actors so they compensated by having his dialogue have a more country accent in the JP version of the original FF7.
I like the old man voice better, his real voice sounds like a sidekick character from a anime that you would find in a adventure series or a school romance series
I almost feel like the voice actor did _too_ good of a job here and turned Red into a voice actor too. He actually sounds like two different characters.
yeah he's a teenager. but in the original you didnt have voice acting and got to this part of the game in like 15 hours. we've spent like 50 hours with red now getting to know him and developing his personality. his new voice has just completely thrown him off for me tbh, and its just waved away with barely any reaction. it was okay like that in the og, but it felt super bizarre in rebirth imo.
People complaining about this fail to realize this was in the OG Japanese FF7. Up until Cosmo Canyon, Red used very formal and old mannish pronouns when referring to himself, and used more childish ones when his true age was revealed. This was lost in the English translation since English only has one pronoun for oneself ..'I', where Japanese has multiple
Any decent writer could just have him be more emotional, excitable, open, naive etc to contrast his prior stoic persona. This isnt organic character growth, this is lazy. It would be similarly idiotic if Cloud midway through his (intentionally similar) character arc started talking like Sora + 4 octaves higher. You can show that growth in intelligent natural ways-- the change here is WAY too jarring.
@@docteetor3911 Curious how the Japanese dub handled this, if you or anyone can answer. Don't have a PS5 so watched the whole game via playthroughs. Maybe kept his voice the same and just changed his pronouns like the OG Jap text, or changed his voice as well?
in the OG FF7 (as in japanese script) Red XIII changed the way he talked as shown through speech pattern differences, revealing he was basically a teen only acting like a sagely man. That kind of language quirk was not easily translatable, so it was lost in translation for overseas release. Since the remake has voice acting, they took advantage of that with a voice change too.
I hate his new voice so damn much. I been going through posts and comments. 80 percent hate it. 20 percent are just weebs who love the anime voice stuff. I just wished they also didnt change his personality with the voice change. He went from edris elba to michael cera
I wish their was an option on the menu so I can just keep the "old man" voice. it fit red xiii with his mysterious powerfull deep nature, but his teenage voice rips all that off.@@kennethforman5265
Man, FF really has an obsession with making main characters teenagers. Even Red who’s supposed to be middle aged in our terms is considered a teenager by his. Even Cloud whom is 21, is mentally a 16 year old because he spent 5 years in comatose from the mako poisoning
That's just Japanese media in general. But I find it funny how Red completely switches character here, though it makes sense since his species lives longer.
@@jr5715 oh did the original have voice acting now? Did he go up 8 octaves? Can yall bffr, there's a difference between organic character development/dropping personas etc & whatever decision this was.
"I wished you to treat me as an equal, not a dog"
*Happily acts like a dog*
And probably that's why he disguised his voice which that's pretty impressive
Nanaki is like someone who isn't comfortable hugging people. Like me. I'm comfortable with family and very close friends but casual friends and acquaintances not so much. The villagers are Nanakis family. It's only natural he shows a side to them that he hasn't with the others yet.
He's more like a juvenile wolf. Wolf pups basically act like dogs, because dogs started out as wolves whose capacity for adult maturity was bred out of them. So if he seems like a very good boy... it's because he is :)
Proved his point, didn't he?
Dawg went from a man who drowns ten bottles of liquor per day to a kingdom hearts character.
@@Skilletforlifehe sounds like demyx 😂
1:36 it’s Demyx time 🤣🤣🤣
No puede ser es demysx
He's Luxu in Back Cover
More like Ryuji Persona 5
lmao Tifa's reaction "Forty-WHAT?!"
That reaction also priceless 🤣
She thought Nanaki was the oldest of them but she realize he's not a human so his age isn't similar lifespan age as human
No matter your opinion on his voice, there's no doubt Max Mittleman is an incredible voice actor with range
Too right.
Max Mittleman is Red's voice actor!? Friggin Saitama!?
And Ryuji from Persona 5
@@genmuzero808ify And McBurn of Trails of Cold Steel.
@@tidus1phHe also voices Lechter in that series
I prefer his old voice but I like how he reveals his “real” one and he’s just a happy boi! It’s So cute ❤
The soft voice is cute and all but the "Old man" voice as barret said,its better in my opinion
And "Old man" voice is the one that he use in Advent Children. So now it has no sense.
@@silvianogueira4504 Most of the Compilation didn't make sense. While I'm not wild about Remake bringing so much of its canon back, it's at least doing a better job of using it.
I feel like i'm watching a Saturday night cartoon now with his goofy voice.
It is so nice how the creators gave so much deep to red with this, brilliantly done that couldn't be done in a PS1 no voice, brilliant.
@@silvianogueira4504 oh boy here we go again another butthurt
He was acting like Mufasa and now young Simba lion king. That's. ...a bit awkward
I really hope Barrett's and Red's synergy attack starts with them screaming "Avalanche Time"
Ravalanche time!
You get a pass…
@@Kumiko026 status report: where do I begin?
Part 3 needs to have Trio-Synergy attacks and for the Red/Barret/Cid combo the dialog NEEDS to start with "Tik Tok goes clooock.." 😆
AVALANCHE TIME MODAF%K@!!!
0:51
Barret dancing 😂
AVALANCHE TIME!!!!;
Its funny because you catch it earlier in the game when tifa and aerith ask Red about their bathing suits and he breaks character for a second 😭
I was thinking about including it in the video as well. Even told myself that Max breaks into his Ryuji when he saw tifa LOL
Imagine the first time he talks to the party in Remake, he accidentally cracks his voice before saying a word.
@@FazFaz I saw One Punch Man for the first time last month, and couldn't hear anyone but Ryuji.
You actually first hear it in junon harbor when aerith and red are talking about the whispers and cloud walks in on them
I'm glad they kept Bugenhagen's "ho-ho-ing" 🙂
Is... Is Bugenhagen riding around on a giant materia? XD
@@Zaxares I would like to know this too.
Kinda forgot that red is still a teenager
I thought he was around 50 in age, but relative to his lifespan he was a teenager.
Wouldn't that make him 61 or 62 years old considering he's 48 and Bugenhagen mentioned through human terms that he's 15 or 16?
@@ladariustownsel5552 The teenager description is likely more about Red's emotional maturity. He's around 50 during the game, but in the after credits 500 years later he looks mostly the same with only some gray. Based on that, his species could probably hit 1000+ easily so he couldn't be a teenager based on age.
It would explain his MJ dance from earlier in the game.
Wtf I'm dying lmaoooo!!! The drastic change. 😂😂
So pretty much, Red is still a kid/teen and he only deepens his voice to appear mature because he wants to be an equal on the Team. But his real voice is that of a young kid lol awwww.
Barrett: What the hell was that?!
Very meta, Barrett. Speakin' for the whole audience with that comment. ;)
I actually love this so much. He's a teenager trying to act big and tough around the adults.
That's how I interpreted him. I love him even more now, even if I prefer his older voice. 😂
His true voice is basically ryuji and the old man voice sounds like garrus from mass effect
Which Ryuji we talking about ?
@@daltonoakleyjr391 persona 5
Both this guy and Ryuji are just Saitama. Max Mittelman doesn't seem to change his voice very much in roles.
"Can this wait? I'm in the middle of some calibrations."
"FOR REAL?!"
@@SvanTowerMan I beg to differ. His gruffier voice as Red XIII is not really similar to his other roles
On any other occasion, I would think Red's true voice is jarring. But one, it's important to remember that he's a teenager by his species' standards. And two, Max Mittelman is super awesome and talented.
Bro, Max Mittlemin did a great job voicing Red 13 in Rebirth! 😂
Isn't Max also the voice actor of Luxu from Kingdom hearts? If it was him, so that's why Red's voice so familiar
And Saitama.
@@fabesey2016 And Ryuji.
Ryuji voice: "FOR REAL?!"
@@NotSoraXIIIWHAT???
This reminds me of when I met some wolves (well, as genetically close to wolves as was legally permissible for the public to mingle with them) and unlike dogs they had very distinct adult and child behaviours.
Real-life dogs had the ability to grow a full-size brain bred out of them, which is why they constantly behave like children. Getting to see Red play both makes a lot more sense to me after learning that.
There's always been dispute over whether Red was canine, feline, or a deliberately ambiguous mix of both. There's no doubt in my mind now though; he's a wolf.
0:48 Barret expression was priceless 🤣🤣
And that's right, Red XIII show off his soft side
Max Mittleman went from sounding serious into sounding like Ryuji from Persona 5, Atsushi from Bungou Stray Dogs and Kousei from Your Lie in April.
People seem to forget that Nanaki is an teenager, so this voice kinda fits him
I actually really enjoyed Red changing his voice, especially since he still uses the serious one now and then. It really captured the fact he was misleading everyone about his age from the original game into light.😊
Barret's little teasing dance had me dead 😂😂😂
OH MY GOSH HE IS ADORABLE
Lmao man went from tough gravelly voice to ryuji sakamoto
Buggenhaggen no longer look like master roshi flying around on giant dragonball lol
When I first heard this, I immediately felt a heart-squeeze. Like, it's out of place really because of his markings, but I don't mind it. He's just the kid here.
I see many people not liking the voice change, but personally, I find it heartwarming how he finally let his walls crumble and was confident enough to finally reveal his true voice. That's some peak character development right there!
Outdoor: More like adultery voice, and somehow a tough one
Indoor: Softy voice like a boy, and caring to the village,
Dang, 48?! Bro, his lifespan was indeed like an elder if we saw a sequel scene he's litterary 148 years old than a normal animal I've ever seen
and hence another reason the Og ff7 should have had voice acting in it! i had no idea that nanaki canonically spoke with two different tone of voices and that his true voice isn't really how you would expect him to sound! i mean the first crash bandicoot came out a year before final fantasy Vll did an the former had voice over, why couldn't the latter?
well for one crash has like, 10 mins tops of voice acting. whereas ff7 would have had to have several hours of it. and audio takes up a lot of space, now imagine trying to fit in all that onto a game that was already on 3 discs. completely unfeasible.
Both are good
why does Red's child like voice reminds me of Cheetor from Transformers Beast Wars?
Very few will catch this one, my fella
Oh, I never thought of that. They're both quite youthful, so it makes sense.
I feel his old voice fits him better
This is intended though. In the original FF7 they wanted him to have a younger voice once he stopped acting older and mature after this point. However, due to no voice acting in the original FF7, they had to compensate for that by giving him a country accent in the JP version of the original FF7.
The original FF7 English version did not give him the country accent to reflect him now having a younger voice and actually a teenager by his species age due to rush translation.
@@orrthehunter if that's the case i wonder if i should consider someone other than Michael dorn as nanaki for my ff7 live action tv series fan cast
its so cringe
@@orrthehunterIts fucking terrible this is genuinely the first thing i don't like about these games im presently at shock
@@goddamnarshia I get it you are not expecting this like many others who only played the English version of the original FF7 and did not know Red is meant to sound like a teenager at this point in the storyline due to faulty english translation when they were working getting FF7 to ENG version.
It is one of the original aspect of the game they actually failed to add into the original FF7 for english version not intentionally but as a result of bad translation due to development side of getting the original FF7 from JP version to ENG version. If they had translated Red's dialogue right then he would have had a country accent in his dialogue to reflect he is speaking as a teenager voice after this point in the storyline.
As i said already, this is a aspect the original developers wanted since back then they worked on the original FF7 they wanted to show Red using a teenager voice after this point in the storyline but could not do it properly during that time due to no voice actors so they compensated it with a slight change in his dialogue by adding a country accent. Since now they have voice actors, they went with the original plan to just give him a young teenager voice as originally planned instead.
His zoomer voice makes the Team Four Star's version sound more serious by comparison
I always wonder what the english version would have been like if they given the country accent after he stop pretending to be older and mature that the JP version of the original FF7 had.
Either way glad they can do this scene as originally intended by the original FF7 writers since in the original FF7 they could not show off Red having a younger voice after he stopped pretending due to no voice actors so they compensated by having his dialogue have a more country accent in the JP version of the original FF7.
That also explains his new Japanese VA.
Loving his new voice. ❤
0:52 Ayo, Barret?🤨📸
Ok, I played the original Final Fantasy VII when it came out, and this just gave the original a new experience for me in this scene 😂
2:00 We get it, ESG.
lay off the crack
It annoys me that even the game acts as though he is a dog, while his body is unambiguously feline.
Went from a deep-voiced dog to Ryuji from Persona 5, and I appreciate Max Mittelman for this moment! 😂
Nice to meet you Simba
I like the old man voice better, his real voice sounds like a sidekick character from a anime that you would find in a adventure series or a school romance series
You mean like Saitama from One Punch Man or Ryuji from Persona 5?
You just described Ryuji Sakamoto. 😂
well to be fair, the OG red was pointed out many time that he is a teen pretending to be more than his coward dad to compensate.
I...I could not imagine all these decades he was hiding his real voice...
lol when i heard his other voice i thought he reverse puberty
He's so adorable 🥰
I almost feel like the voice actor did _too_ good of a job here and turned Red into a voice actor too. He actually sounds like two different characters.
LMAO I love Barret. He's so funny.
I always thought he was like one of the big cats
This is so weird to hear. And see too… I forgot that he’s basically a teenager. Always comes across as much older
Hes 48.
I freaking LOVE Red ❤
haaaa! that's why in VOST it's Usopp voice since Advent children in 2005 ( KAPPEI YAMAGUCHI ), its make sens now!
I need to pet that good boi RIGHT NOW
I remember that Max Mittelman also voiced Atsushi in Bungo Stray Dogs as well
Sounds like Ryuji a bit hahah
Red went from Gandalf to Marty McFly! 🤣
So really red is the youngest of the group. In human years.
4 real ryuji
Talk about welcome home
Sora, is that you?
I know it's not the same VA, but Nanaki's voice reminded me of Sora.
This was so cute!!!!
Id have loved his voice to have just been that deep and him be 16ish but thats how he sounds as his species😂
Refxiii real voice kinda sounds like a teenager version of Mikal from draken guard 3
To me
Possibly just me..he he…
Red 13 should be a movie star actor
Oh, no, anime is happening.
yeah he's a teenager. but in the original you didnt have voice acting and got to this part of the game in like 15 hours. we've spent like 50 hours with red now getting to know him and developing his personality. his new voice has just completely thrown him off for me tbh, and its just waved away with barely any reaction. it was okay like that in the og, but it felt super bizarre in rebirth imo.
So many crybabies in here lmfao yall forget that Nanaki is a literal child. A teenager. Of course he’s gonna sound like this 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Why does he sound familiar?
He is both Ryuji and Saitama.
People complaining about this fail to realize this was in the OG Japanese FF7. Up until Cosmo Canyon, Red used very formal and old mannish pronouns when referring to himself, and used more childish ones when his true age was revealed. This was lost in the English translation since English only has one pronoun for oneself ..'I', where Japanese has multiple
Any decent writer could just have him be more emotional, excitable, open, naive etc to contrast his prior stoic persona. This isnt organic character growth, this is lazy. It would be similarly idiotic if Cloud midway through his (intentionally similar) character arc started talking like Sora + 4 octaves higher. You can show that growth in intelligent natural ways-- the change here is WAY too jarring.
@@docteetor3911 Curious how the Japanese dub handled this, if you or anyone can answer. Don't have a PS5 so watched the whole game via playthroughs. Maybe kept his voice the same and just changed his pronouns like the OG Jap text, or changed his voice as well?
That's RAAAANGE
It's like Red XIII and Nanaki are 2 different persona
The best twist in the game lol
Is that Max Mittelmann?
Chadley the Doggo
I prefer old voice but this isn’t that bad
Look how they massacred my boy...
Haven’t played this yet, but does his voice stay that way the rest of the game?
yup
Yeah, it sucks.
Kinda wished his real voice wasn’t that prissy
nanaki is a kid............
teenager but yes.
My first thanks, I hate it moment so far.
I Have No Idea What's Going On????😱😱
Could have been done better. Should have been more in-between.
No
Thx for being a spoiler for clicks! Hope your ps5 fries! Much love!
Can someone explain
Old man voice was not his real voice, he acted like that be taken more serious and not looked down on for being a happy dog/teenager
in the OG FF7 (as in japanese script) Red XIII changed the way he talked as shown through speech pattern differences, revealing he was basically a teen only acting like a sagely man.
That kind of language quirk was not easily translatable, so it was lost in translation for overseas release.
Since the remake has voice acting, they took advantage of that with a voice change too.
48 year old man been lying to you and is acting like a shy 15 year old.
BOOOOOOIII !!!
That cosmo canyon remix is horrible
What
i just wished he would go back to hils old man voice........uuugh
nope its fine.
@@HaggyGT no...its not fine...its stupid
I hate his new voice so damn much. I been going through posts and comments. 80 percent hate it. 20 percent are just weebs who love the anime voice stuff.
I just wished they also didnt change his personality with the voice change. He went from edris elba to michael cera
I wish their was an option on the menu so I can just keep the "old man" voice. it fit red xiii with his mysterious powerfull deep nature, but his teenage voice rips all that off.@@kennethforman5265
Um what the fuck? Did you dub over this or is this real?
Unfortunately this is real......
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What…..?
Honestly, this is one change that I vehemently disagree with...
Not gonna lie.... This destroyed everything i liked about him...
Yeah, same… I don’t think I’ll get use to it.
??? What the?
Man, FF really has an obsession with making main characters teenagers. Even Red who’s supposed to be middle aged in our terms is considered a teenager by his.
Even Cloud whom is 21, is mentally a 16 year old because he spent 5 years in comatose from the mako poisoning
I take it you haven't played Kingdom Hearts?
It's just a reversal of the dog years trope. Red has been around for almost 50 years, but compared to humans, that's still young for him.
That's just Japanese media in general. But I find it funny how Red completely switches character here, though it makes sense since his species lives longer.
I don't like this voice change
I hate it. I love the first game but this one was just annoying and boring.
I mean it was in the original
You have no taste
@@jr5715 oh did the original have voice acting now? Did he go up 8 octaves? Can yall bffr, there's a difference between organic character development/dropping personas etc & whatever decision this was.
This is so lame😢