A New Woodworking Technique? | Epoxy Locking Miter Joints
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On this episode I'm trying out a new woodworking technique where I use epoxy resin to reinforce miter joints. This will both increase their strength and ad a unique aesthetic. In addition to this new technique, the video covers making angled, tapered legs, creating templates, half lap joinery, and more.
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One of the smoothest transitions into the ad I’ve ever watched
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That part earned a thumbs down from me. It sucked
S M I liked it personally considering I’m a four eye
Of course somone was first xD
I just want to thank Chris for always having the most seamless transitions to his sponsor plugs i've ever seen. I appreciate it.
So Awesome. I was literally thinking about Resin Joints and Reinforcements (for wood) at the beginning of the week and I'm so glad to see that other people are also working on it; the more works gets done in any area the more progress and knowledge is acquired.
I liked that You tried different shapes in order to test out different joints.
Been following you since you started and I gotta say that with the addition of Shaun and the infusion of the lighthearted side you both bring to the videos that they're just a real joy to watch. I mean, I liked your older videos fine, but things were a LOT more serious... like maybe too serious? The current running gags and again the lightheardedness (?) of the videos makes them a pleasure to watch.
Thanks! I think Lightheartedness is the right word. I'm naturally pretty goofy (and not very serious) - you'll even notice in the old videos...most of them that sound like they have a serious ending are all just long cons to work their way to a pun of some sort. But I think things are becoming more surface level goofy at this point.
The engineer inside was like Noooooooo! Put measurable loads on each leg to see which one holds most! Which is strongest!!??
Same thought: who make am experiment on joint without a strength test? Make a measurement ! Do some kind of science.
I'd prefer he do the same joint on all 4 and try out different methods of reinforcement, from steel, to carbon fiber, aluminum, and fiberglass, etc.
@@lancecustar He won't have to tools to make quality composite structures
@@lancecustar : In the end, the wood failed....
So method of reinforcing didn't matter.
I was thinking, NO!, un-reinforced Epoxy is just for ART -- throw in some glass... In the end it held (on the one he demonstrably destroyed.)
@@joestevenson5568 : What tools does one need??
Scales (weighing instrument - not fish type) Rollers/Squegee, Vacuum, Hotbox.... All of these are easily manufacturable / acquirable, ie not specialised tools (really)
Of course we all have our own special needs.
(For a crash course on what can be done with "Simple tools" - and a CNC machine shop for the on simple - check out Mike Patey's Composite creations.... No Autoclave or Oven in sight.
One thing I love the most about your videos is that you don't come to the audience as if you're "above" us (even considering that you're way more skilled than we are) - you're willing to let us know about your mistakes and failures even as a professional
For me personally as an amateur, it's actually a little encouraging and refreshing to see that I maker similar mistakes and can get similar results while using similar tools. Keep em comin Chris & Shaun!
Of all the youtubers out there I think your sponsor spots are always the least intrusive and most enjoyable. I hope they pay you well because you sir do a damn fine job. Weird compliment I know
I appreciate it! In a way I kind of make them more intrusive, but I try to have fun with them and I think if I take pride in them, it comes across to (some) viewers, and they appreciate it. It shows how thankful I am for the support.
I love it. And for those who criticize you for not donating or selling the piece, I think you did the right thing. I took this as an experiment. You don't want to find out, after selling or donating it, that there was an unexpected problem with the idea. Some possibilities are mentioned in the comments. Personally, I love working with epoxies and have done so in another profession which causes me to see possible ways for this technique to be improved. You're relying on the epoxy too much without reinforcement.
I don't see a problem with using the gloves. There are many reasons someone may want to or need to use them. I use nitrile gloves a lot. They are easier to work with than many believe.
It hurt when you smashed it:(
yeah, could've given it to someone ơn Craigslist or somethin'
Could have easily sold it. It's a cool looking table.
Na bro, he did well, it was necessary.
I once did a tabletop with epoxy and sand bowties for a beach side house.
That was the smoothest transition to an add i've seen.
This was the smartest easing in of an ad I’ve ever seen
Wears "Get Hands Dirty" shirt while also wearing gloves
it's becoming an unofficial outfit :)
Go check her channel, she is a very talented woodworker (which is not the only field where she's good at, she produces her channel music, etc...)
@@q1t1 second this, she's extremely talented!
Yesssss. I love not remembering upload schedules, every one is a pleasant surprise.
i liked it with the red hue with the tape. 4 different coloured corners with diff shapes would look cool.
OK so I was watching episode 168 of the modern makers podcast today on my lunch break and I had to go back and watch this! Y’all were talking about what sponsors required in their ads and visuals and things like that and you mentioned the response to this particular sponsor ad. I have to admit it had me laughing! At first I just thought it was another fancy fade edit! Then you started asking which number was better! So good! Great video too! Loved the puzzle joint!
Cloves with working with machines are a no go
For creating templates, we create the shape in cad, print the shape out 1:1 on our printer. Glue the paper to the board, and then sand to the line. Makes for perfect shapes. We did all of our cabinet doors this way. It makes it very easy to play with the shape in cad till you get it right.
About someone doing it first, yes. Not with wood, not with resin, but with stone and molten lead. They would carve an H-shaped hole spanning both sides of a gap (much like the 'butterfly splint' you've made) and then pour in the molten lead to act as a key to keep the stones from shifting. It may go all the way back to Roman times, but certainly in the middle ages the technique was used.
That ad transition is as good as Steve Ramsay’s MicroJig ads back in the day. If you’re going to have ads they might as well be entertaining. Well done.
Really interesting how when you broke it apart the epoxy didn't seem to have any sticktion (is that a word?) to the wood inside the joint. It makes it seem like this is indeed more a mechanical joint, akin to a dry fit bowtie, rather than a glue joint. Would love to see some comparisons with a properly glued and clamped joint compared to one with epoxy inlays like this.
Word you're looking for is "bonding" or "chemical adhesion"
I don't want to go into an epoxy diatribe but as a boatbuilder I get a bit annoyed with the general woodworking fraternity and their complete misunderstanding of how epoxy is supposed to be used (structurally). Ultra clear casting epoxies do not make the strongest structural joints but I'm sure this method could be used very successfully if it was adapted slightly.
@@Dickie2702 What are the adaptions you have in mind ?
I really like watching you grow as an editor. Great comedic timing and you just keep getting better
Loved the idea and even more the puzzle piece, could be great on a "creative" office, maybe even adding a big one to the top, who knows?
The possibilities are endless :)
Would've loved to see a strength comparison between the joints :)
If it holds a mans body weight plus extra force, considering it's a side table, it's fit for purpose and there is no point, it's practicable
epoxy is not stronger than wood. This is engineering 101. Our statics engineering teacher always said: "Do not stress the matrix". and this is exactly what he did here.
Man???? Let's not get crazy. JK. This is the right answer honestly. In this application and size, would anybody reasonably do anything beyond what I did in this video? I don't think so...therefore, it is strong enough. As for testing strength and getting into specifics...I wouldn't even know where to begin with that. All can hold my weight...none can withstand a hammer hit coupled with the torque :)
@@jbrnds Exactly, which is why the epoxy shattered and the wood didn't break.... oh, wait...
rdouthwaite too much wood removed and the epoxy plug is not loadcarrying just a void.
Cleanest shop ive seen. More like a home made pastry kitchen.
Millennial woodworking at its best
ROFl another excellent sponsor lead in!
Nice one again.
Thanks! I was pretty proud of this one :)
At first, I was like...he never fucks this kind of shot up, but then I was all "Damnit. He got me."
The sneaker game is strong in this one!, love it!
i love how you wear your J's in the wok shop
Heck yeah...gotta be comfortable :)
Those are his stompin J's
Outstanding video production standards. Thanks for sharing.
I love that you made a video of your experimentation with no commitment to produce something and no expectations that it would work. We should all take the time to do this once in a while.
Definitely! Honestly...if I weren't making videos I would have done this without even having a table as a finished product to test it on. But I think it makes for a better video because you can cover other techniques, etc...
Definitely a lot more time consuming though.
I was disappointed, not in the video per say ... it was VERY interesting, in the experiment! 1) he didn't define what he was trying to prove/disprove. So the assumption strength was the test! 2) He should have AT LEAST given us his weight (weight / 4legs = weight per leg or joint).
In my house that table may have been to weak to use. Why? We're a house of cripples who are also bookworms! If the table could take half a dozen people size stacks of hard bound books, then and only then, it would be strong enough.
Otherwise a Very Entertaining Video (VEV)! On a scale of 0 to 10, it rates an 8+! And the segway to commercial support gets a 10!
the puzzle piece joint looks very interesting! I wonder if it would work using a wood piece for the connection... it would have a lot of surface for glueing.
these videos are legit the best I love them
I discovered your channel a few days ago and have been working my way through your videos. I really like them, I just don't know a lot about woodworking lol. I have some questions. What are jointing and ripping? Is it a rabbit or rabid? More on topic for this video, what is a miter? I really love your style and the aesthetic of your videos is very relaxing. It's easy to tell how much work you put into both the pieces, and the video making process. Keep doing your thing because you're doing a great job!
Jointing - making a flat face or edge
Ripping - using the table saw to cut a piece to width/make two edges parallel
Rabbet
Miter - angled cut
David is right on all of it...thanks for chiming in.
Honestly, I would recommend looking for a book on beginning woodworking, or even just a forum or something like that. It'll answer all those sorts of questions. Or, honestly...just keep watching, and due to the repetition, it'll probably start making more sense :)
CNC a puzzle peace to fit in the puzzle peace.. (half the thickness of the table leg. Epoxy the rest. 1/4 below, 1/4 above insert.) Dark wood
I don't care what anyone says, the thickness vs thickni joke is still gold.
Disclaimer: I am a dad.
I am not a dad, but I still love it.
We riot if he ever DOESN'T make a thickness/thickniiiiiiiiiii joke.
Dad jokes rule
@@akahige9626 Possibly. It's a joke about the pluralization of words that end with the letter s. In English, in most cases, you would add "es" to the end of the word. So boss becomes bosses. But there are seemingly random cases where there word changes completely. Focus become foci. So, Chris is making a joke on that.
@@AnthonyBowman Focuseses!
I hope that you continue to ponder the plural of thickness. It’s the only reason I watch your videos.
The woodworking bits, in between the off cuts thrown in the bin bits, are getting funnier by the episode ~
haha...eventually we'll be all schtick...and then we can knock off all the furniture crap :P
@@Foureyes.Furniture A walking Schtick?
I'm thinking the exact opposite. The "comedy" should be left to comedians. Stick to the woodworking.
@@chunkymurps shouldn't that be 'schtick' to the woodworking!?
Dude.. The quality of your videos are amazing. I love this channel.. I'm ridiculously jealous but so happy that you're doing well!
Nicely done Chris! 😃👍🏻👊🏻
Production is superb if anyone hasn't commented yet. This may be the best commercial plug(s) in the video I've seen this year.
As always, tasteful and a pleasure to watch. Some advice (whether or not you want it):
1/ Forget the contacts. Woodworking and contacts are incompatible.
2/ Optical glass is still the superior material for eyeglass lenses (lensi?). An optician might dispute that, but an ophthalmologist won't.
"Optical glas is still the superior materal" If you only have an astigmatism then maybe. But if you are myopic, then NEVER! As glass gets thinner it gets progressively weaker. Also glass is 'heavy'! My own glasses are very very thin in the center, but with optical glass they are "coke glass" thick on edges! They weigh 10 pounds each! (Not really, but, they are much heavier than plastic.) Optical glass, even if made as safety glass, is not as strong as optical plastics today.
Very interesting concept! It looks like it works
I'd say based on this the best arrangement would be a smaller epoxy pocket to give the wood more strength and probably with something to key the epoxy ends in like your dogbone
Let me just say thank you for using epoxy for something other than a live edge river table!
damnit christopher that ad was smooth as hell
I like the added humor in this video
ingenious out-of-focus-idea, great
Great idea for strengthening joints
1 or 2....... that has to be the best sponsorship add into on UA-cam!!!! BRILLIANT!!! I'm sad that the table had to die, it was a really cool idea for a table 👍
Having a clear vision of a project is always nice, buts it’s also a lot of fun to let the ideas pour out as you build.
Coming in hot with the puns per usual...I dig.
And thanks again to Warby Parker for ensuring Chris' vision is always clear.
Kudos for the ad lead-in! 🤣
What’s with the nitrile gloves when handling the birch stock?
Yeah what's up?
He was also doing multiple glue ups and it becomes annoying to have that glue on your hands if you are doing that regularly. There are also allergies/sensitivities that can develop from glue, wood, etc....so it is not uncommon.
He knew corona was comming
Birch is low on the list of irritant woods, but perhaps he's more sensitive? Seems unlikely but possible. www.wood-database.com/wood-articles/wood-allergies-and-toxicity/
Or he just leaves them on all the time no matter what he's doing? Maybe his real job is hand model?
You can also use something like Wandels BigPrint program to make a 1:1 printout of the template
This came up in my Google 'news' feed... I'm now subscribed... Super entertaining to watch. Thank you
I like the way you brought in your sponsor
Thanks! :)
Noooooooo!! With the glass top it was so freakin cool!
Love the ingenuity of your work! This really helps me to think outside the box
An interesting epoxy is HXTAL NYL-1. It's a two-parter which must be precisely weighed. It is optically clear with the same refractive index as borosilicate glass. It's used for museum-quality restoration and conservation. It ain't cheap, but it is a fine product. It's high viscosity, can be thinned with acetone, doesn't use UV to catalyze the reaction, and is extremely hard at full cure. I'm trying it's cousin, XTR311, which is quite a bit less viscous, to try to heal some cracks in several Victorian-era stained/leaded glass panels, as I write this.
I haven't watched your videos in awhile. I really like the addition of comedy.
Watching the test to failure was particularly rewarding. Don't get me wrong, I really liked the whole thing, but watching the failure of the joint separate pretty much exactly how I expected made me wonder if you might revisit this epoxy joint with some routing of the interior of the joint. Keyway routing, slot, multiple slots....whatever variations you think of. It would be neat to see if there is some extra strength created in the joint by increasing the surface area of the epoxy / wood interface through clever routing.
Could be...honestly though. I think the joint was strong enough. It took a pretty good hit to break it apart. I have no doubt that if somebody had used this as a coffee table...it would last as long as needed.
@@Foureyes.Furniture absolutely fair enough, but even stronger is always better, right? Plus you might be able to see the routed detail through the clear-ish epoxy....
Thanks for sharing your work. 👍🏾
Really nice use of the Xcarve, I’ll go ahead and say it. World first.
Great video! You may not have thought of this idea, but thanks for sharing it! I'll definitely use it.
Do you have a video on how you design your offset legs in Sketchup. Would be cool to see
I'm curious as to how it stands the test of time. The expansion rate of wood vs. epoxy would surely loosen the joint, right?
hmm I wonder. The wood may expand on the outside of the leg, and the barrier between the wood and the epoxy may remain stable due to the strength of the bond between the wood+epoxy?
Very interesting and entertaining. Thanks.
Nice project Chris! Thanks for sharing with us!👌👍😎JP
I’m not even halfway through the vid, but I had to pause and give you props for the optometrist bit - that was gold. Been having that conversation since third grade 😅
Cool idea. I may try this but with a contrasting colour timber insert rather than epoxy. I like the jigsaw puzzle piece, I think it would offer the most support.
That's really creative!
Awesome Project...
As the X-Carve was cutting and you were mentioning about various Joint Types I thought what if you didn't go all the way through on your Joint Carving and only went 1/2 or 3/4 of the way through. Then you'd have the Wood as a Backer either on the Inside or Outside to be seen or hidden. Then what if you Mirrored the Image and cut both sides but not all the way through, again like 1/4 the way on each Face leaving wood as a Backer for the Epoxy. Or you could drill a few holes to allow the Epoxy to bond the two Carvings in place. Just a thought... Cheers...
Good call...yeah. THat would definitely work.
Now do ones with tongue and key splines, then fill them with translucent epoxy that is backlit with LEDs! ...and don't forget the 'Project Farm'-level of strength tests! (The main advantage is that anyone can make them with nothing more than a jig and table saw.)
A refinement would be using a lexan inserts in the form of the shapes you cut in the legs.
I'm thinking of trying the epoxy spline joint
I enjoyed your exhibition of this method. Thank you for doing so!
nice idea. I learned a lot!
I liked the boomerang joint the best, just maybe smaller would look ideal. Nice work.
props on wearing the cement 3s on wood working :)
I like your clean design. Generally I have a problem with people standing on my coffee tables. They bring back the table, and want me to fix it. I can see the foot prints on the table. Two sets, and I have to say, "It's for coffee, not dancing on."
great idea, the one with 3 slots looked amazing
They look great
Good video Chris. Have a question about something. At around the 1:02-1:03 minute mark you were crosscutting a board using a miter gauge and fence. I always clamp a stand-off to the fence for that type of cut. I noticed you did not. At least the first time I watched it. The second time I watched it it seemed like once you had your cut lined up against the fence you tapped the fence over slightly. I use my standoff to prevent that kind of cut binding. Is that what you were doing when you tapped the fence over? That might be a good area to mention one technique or another as a novice may not know that type of cut can bind up, and as a reminder of those of us who have been doing it for quite some time.
Enjoyed the video and the project. 😊
Ron
next time, put painters tape over the joint area before you carve it out; this will leave a protective mask over the rest of the wood that you can peel off when the epoxy is partially cured, making it a lot easier to sand it smooth.
That’s a cool experiment !!! I wonder if you can do that with their penetrating epoxy so it gets into the fibers of the wood too. Would defiantly make it stronger just not sure you can pour it that thick. Another experiment for you. You try it so I can use it lol. Great job dude !!!
I like your attention to detail. Would attempt this soon
Great concept 👍👍👍👍
We love these videos Chris!!! Keep killin it!
Thanks for the video, good job!!
I love the overall design as for the joints the jig saw piece was really interesting dut the clean style od the shape matched joint was the right one for the job here. Personally though I would have used a dark wood over epoxy
I really loved the edit on this video, you are really a master of telling the story.
Love the sneakers... You should show us your sneaker collection.
just a heads up the links for both the rocker tapering and crosscut sled links in the description are showing them as a removed page
Thanks just looked into it. Can't redirect bitly links unfortunately so we'll need a more elegant solution moving forward.
Bro, your sneaker game is on point
The noun thickness can be countable or uncountable. In more general, commonly used, contexts, the plural form will also be thickness. However, in more specific contexts, the plural form can also be thicknesses e.g. in reference to various types of thicknesses or a collection of thicknesses. 😇
First time viewer - great stuff!
I'm surprised I haven't seen a miter saw used once, I'd have used one for those miter cuts, maybe even for that joint you dadeod out. Making that miter jig looks like a lot of dedication for an experiment.
Nice work, and love your sense of humour - subscribed. 👍
Please do more of the epoxy stuff.
I’d love to see a cabinet or chest of drawers with epoxy resin in the doors or drawer fronts, nothing clear but maybe an opaque.
I was wondering if you could use the X-carve to cut a pattern into resin and use a colored resin to fill the pattern,,, might be neat.
I love your commentary and explanation!
I think the woodpecker items on the side of your table saw are worth more than my shop.