*SCREAM 4* was the BEST Scream film since the original!! (Movie Reaction/Commentary)
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It made me gasp that someone else let alone two of you said “is that a culken?” I’m glad I’m not the only one who refers to them that way 😂😂😂 so glad you guys are continuing this franchise ❤
Just to give you guys some context to the movie. This movie was made during the initial Hollywood craze of "let's remake everything" but with a younger cast. There was a lot of talk and press around this movie getting made without Neve, David, and Courtney. The idea was that they were too "old" and that Scream 3 wasn't a huge hit, so let's reboot it with a newer/younger cast. When Neve, David, and Courtney signed on, the consensus was that they were most likely going to be killed off and the younger cast would continue the franchise, with Emma Roberts "America's young sweetheart" as the new "Sydney/star" and final girl.
Jill being the killer is considered one of the best reveals because all of the marketing and press was geared toward her being the new main character of the franchise. Very similar to the original Scream with Drew Barrymore being believed to be the star and getting killed in the first ten minutes.
Wes Craven's idea for this one was that it would be subversive and meta commentary on Hollywood at the time. It was a big "FU" to the industry for them trying to "kill/get rid of" Neve, David, and Courtney as too old to continue. Hence the line "Don't fuck with the original".
To end the movie with the original three as the survivors while killing off the younger co-stars who were portrayed to be the "new cast" that would continue the franchise was genius.
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It’s crazy that Jill Roberts, Sid’s cousin, was the closest Ghostface killer that almost got away with it all to this day, and still underrated…
She's not underrated at all. She's one of the most favored and talked about Ghostfaces.
i feel like she's in most peoples top 3 ghostfaces (including me), far from underrated tbh
The irony is that she basically just copied her cousin Roman and decided to go with it because she thought she could do better than he did. But the difference is that Roman is the only one who ever worked alone and did all of the killing by himself. I know not everyone likes Roman as Ghostface but I’m one of the few who respects him a lot more for that reason.
I kind of wished he got more recognition than what he ended up getting from fans.
she’s most definitely not underrated..,, she’s always mentioned when talking about the best ghostface’s 😭
@@araybia I’m talking about the movies. Not fan’s opinions 🤓 She’s barely mention.
Jill hands down is the best ghost face next to billy and Stu she completely caught me off guard. I like how she was trying to mirror Sydney how she wants the “fame” of being a survivor, she starts to gain the sympathy from everybody, the bf sneaking up to her room, and the only ghost face to damn near get away with it, I honestly loved this one just as much as the first.
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@@ScottMcGoldrick the fact she’s the only one to actually almost get away with it was impressive
She was the only ghost face to make it past the "3rd Act" because all of them are killed before that. Billy and Stu died at the party. Mrs. Loomis and Mickey are killed at the theatre. Roman is killed at the end. Without spoiling 5 and 6, they are all also killed at the end. Jill is the only one to survive the "final act" and even put up a fight before dying.
@@rafaelnavarro6072 exactly my point when I say sis was DETERMINED lol
Period ❤❤❤
RIP, Wes Craven, 1939-2015.
This was his last movie he had made before he died of brain cancer.
Fum fact about this movie, the original script was to have Jill and Sydney survive in the next movie, with Sydney having memory loss and slowly remembering throughout the movie, and Jill being famous. However in this version, the new ghostface is stalking Jill, and is threatening to tell everyone her secret. I wish it happened because a ghostface surviving into the next movie as the "victim" would've been really interesting.
That definitely would have been a cool turn I think people would have gotten invested in. Especially because people wouldn’t be sure who to feel sympathy for, or if they should feel it at all.
“The girl you thought was the girl from Community” lmaooo it is!! Allison Brie. One of my favorite actresses!
the most iconic line is in this franchise: “You forgot the fisrt rules of remakes Jill, don’t fuck with the original”
Jill’s motive was incredibly ahead of its time with fame and doing whatever it takes to get it. Highly relatable now.
It was just an updated version of Mickey's
@@davonfryar-frazier435 No Mickey's reason is cuz he wanted to kill to be famous,hers wanted to be famous as victim of her own kill
“She shot lil Trevor” is wild 😂
Lol😂😂😂😂😂
Scream 4 was ahead of its time which is why it got so much hate. This is literally the best one after the original. That’s not counting the other 2
The guy Charlie looks just like his brother. You can tell the Culkin brothers. And seeing Anthony in the movie knowing he spoofed in in the scary movie movies and his character is named after the actor that played Norman bates in from psycho
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Jill hated being in the shadow of her famous cousin Sidney.
So it’s hilarious that Jill and Charlie are played by Emma Roberts and Rory Culkin. Emma’s aunt is the famous Julia Roberts and Rory’s brothers are Macaulay and Kieran Culkin.
But Tom Cruise is way more famous.
when jill stabbed herself and threw herself into the glass i had to applaud her commitment to the bit. like she’s sick and twisted but she ate that…
Zuff: "Is that Harrison Ford"
Bryce: "You dont even try to be right"
Rob: "Pack it up bro, pack that shit up"
Pretty much explains yall 🤣 love this reaction
Zuff literally kills me 😂 he's exactly like my best friend matty who always gets actors and faces wrong!
What's really cleaver is that Trevor is dressed just like Sid's father when Billy and Stu had him tied up.
Jill's also dressed similarly to Billy
Kirby is the best character, he totally steals every scene. The perfect mix between Randy and Tatum.
Jill is just a good character after the reveal.
The motivation remains very current, 13 years later.
He?
Bryce: It's the Black Mirror Culkin
Zuff: Imagine if it was Roman, I would NUT.
LOL! Well okay then!
Anthony Anderson's character's death is based off a real attack where Wes found a man stabbed in the head only instead of dying the guy lived and drove to the hospital
Them not recognizing Anna Paquin broke me. She’s kind of a legend, guys..
She looks pretty different with that hairstyle.
Like how do u not know who sookie stackhouse is ??😭
@@adoringsharon But that voice never changes.
This is my favorite because I remember seeing it in theaters. It’s so nostalgic.
Get used to Stab! Even the original is parodying movies. They’re all just fun and meta and a good time. 5 & 6 are good modern additions - excited for when y’all get around to those!
Jill & Charlie are best GFs since the originals. Jill is a diabolical, insane mastermind and Charlie is brutal af. Love them. Would love for one of them to return for future films.
Charlie? Are you sure?? I mean under the mask he's great but without the mask he is just a tasteless and whithout charisma character.
@@honeychild4they said charlie is brutal , which he is 😂 they said nothing about him as himself
y’all recognizing Adam Brody from Ready or Not and not The OC lowkey breaks my soul 😭
they might be too young to have remembered the OC lmao he was also the lead singer guy from Jennifer's Body!! they reacted to that one too
@@dontmakeabigdealoutofitI loved him in Jennifer's Body lol, that's the first film I ever saw him in and I've been obsessed since then😂
@@jasa829 he was so fine 😍
The OC was great but people have to watch his hidden gem from 03 called "Grind".
Originally it was supposed to end at the house party, Sidney wouldn’t have remembered the reveal of 4, it would’ve taken place in college with sidney teaching at the university, Jill & Kirby being students, there’d be a new killer that wasn’t Jill that would be trying to expose her, so she’d have to kill to keep her secret. SOOO interesting & sad we didn’t get that original ending to set all this up!
“They’re not just gonna watch 7 movies” you guys would be SURPRISED trust me. There are tons of people who host Scream marathon parties. At least here in LA.
these movies playing into their own horror tropes and then twisting them is what made the Scream series famous, you cant go wrong with it
Behind Billy and Stu(and maybe Mrs. Loomis), Jill is honestly my favorite Ghostface. She was COMMITTED. She was UNHINGED. And she was FASCINATING. Her motive aged extremely well considering the things people do for even 5 seconds of fame in today's time. Originally, Jill was supposed to survive and Sidney was supposed to be in a coma. Scream 5 would be about Jill now being targeted by Ghostface(likely since being so famous AND connected to Sidney would put a huge target on her back). And I'm assuming the main conflict for that movie would be if Sidney regained her memories, Jill's entire story would go down the drain. But, Scream 4 underwent some last minute script changes and we got the fight in the hospital instead. Jill would've been the first Ghostface to survive a movie and almost achieve her goal. She almost broke the trend. But then people changed the scripts. Still an iconic Ghostface. Still an iconic movie
the Allison Brie mix up was actually killing me 😂😂
I loved that Bryce recognized Adam Brody! Hope they watch The OC at some point on the channel.
So my order goes 1,4,6,5,2,3 and I know I’m usually alone in that order but I’ve been a fan for a while
i personally think this is my order too, especially since i was never in love with 2 like everyone else was
@@nevaxh I don’t hate the second or third but this is the order of how hyped I get watching them
for me its 1,6,2,4,5,3
This is definitely my order, too!
A fact about this movie: Jill and Charlie being the killers because of jealousy, fame and wanting to be the one in the spotlight worked perfectly with Rory and Emma. Since Emma Roberts was in the shadow of her wildly famous aunt Julia Roberts and Rory Culkin was in the shadow of his world famous brother Macaulay Culkin.
wow! i totally thought Rob wouldve seen this one already! im happy no ones seen it!
“u’ve got mail” is crazy 💀
Yall cut out the best line "What are you? Michael f*cking Myers??" 😢😂
Jill revealing herself is the best of the whole franchise. Most viewers don't expect she'll be one of the killers.
Zuff was on another planet during this reaction 😂
“Is that Harrison Ford” at 24:13, I cant with Zuff 😂😂
Oh my gosh, you guys should watch the show HEROES!!! Hayden Panettiere is in it!!
I feel like they would love the first 2 seasons of that show.
ive seen it like 3 times over the years lol its great
charlie is so underrated as ghostface, he did all of the kills but unfortunately he didn't get the girl. and before someone comments about jill doing any kills, her whole plan was to become sid and be the final girl, that's why she put the blame on charlie and trevor because she knew that nobody would suspect her. jill had a clear elaborate plan that would have actually worked, which makes her a great ghostface too.
jack cherry did a video on it and it had a lot of explaining on the kills and talks about deleted scenes where the evidence will tell you that charlie did the kills.
I can imagine Zuff’s mind is like going through the adventure time universe, it’s comforting and you will have some unforgettable wild adventures that makes your inner child come out and dance for a minute even during confusion. By the way, nice douche people exists they are like people who try to be the nice guy but end up being an absolute jerk if they don’t win you over. And yes Sidney’s agent is Annie from community, I think is the actress’s first horror film role since she mostly did comedy at the time. Anyway, this is a great video, you guys are fun and I love seeing your reactions whenever I can 💜🤗
Please don’t take forever to react to 5 and 6. There’s a reason this one won the poll. We wanna see you finish the franchise.
I think you'll enjoy the next 2 way more because it has more of a “serious tone”. The first 4 are a bit goofy. Love all of them though!
Happy you guys finally made it to my favorite one! It was so ahead of its time. And Jill’s motive still holds up to present day social media culture. She’s one of my fave ghostfaces so unhinged & iconic lol
Rob, you’re looking like paul mescal with the haircut king 🤌🫶🏼
Please do 5 and 6 those are soooo good
JILL IS MY SECOND FAVORITE GHOSTFACE OF THIS WHOLE FRANCHISE!
Mickey from scream 2 is my third
y’all had me crying in this reaction😂 zuff in rare form and rob and bryce feeding into it perfectly💀
I love that Zuff started singing the “Jenny darlin, you’re my best friend” song after he heard her name, Lmaoo
Hands down the best one and criminally underrated
Jill is my second favorite Ghostface, Stu will always be my number 1 favorite.
PLL?? Degrassi?? Uh ohhh yall know the good ones 🤭
Kirby def is the best character in this movie. Literally stole every scene she was in. Also, Wes Craven said that Kirby's last scene was purposefully left with her still writhing on the floor because Hayden Panettiere's contract has a special "no death" clause and she can't die on-screen. Definitely a fan favorite character and for good reason!
He said pack it up.😂I love this reaction
HELL YEAH, I THOUGHT I WAS GONNA HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL HALLOWEEN
Fuck yes.
this is my first cinema Scream movie and it was AWSOME, i remember how people screamed, laughed, cried and at the end of the movie the entire audience stood up after the credits like any good fan of the franchise and we applauded for 5 more minutes. Best reveal ever, Emma Roberts was AMAZING and she is the best ghostface, fight me if u dare; also, this movie is from 2011 and Kevin Williamson (the writer) and Wes Craven (the incredible director) they were ahead of their time. Love the original, of course, but to me, this is the movie who elevates the franchise
I think I do remember that actress being in degrassi, it’s like so many familiar faces making cameos and I know her well from 90210, but the modern version
I’m in shock that you guys brought the scream reactions back!! I hope you all continue the journey ❤️❤️ thanks for all you do, love you 3 so much!!
the way everyone was still and screaming as the body was falling 😂
Veryyy iconic
I love you all! Zuff and his comparisons, Robb and him watching every movie ever and Bryce having similar guesses to me on my first time watches, I have similar personalities to Robb and Bryce but a lot of my friends are like Zuff so we are all besties 😍
“why are so everybody so famous in this movie”, sweet boys, the best actors and actresses of the moment pray to be able to appear even in a cameo in a Scream movie that’s way every movie had incredible stars
I saw this one in theaters w my mom, it's still my 2nd favorite after the original.. seeing Jill mame herself only to not get away with it is pretty funny 😂
Sadly this one didn't do well in the box office so it shows that we did had to do a bit of a reboot in 5 and 6. I enjoy this as much as the original too
Rob bringing up about how she’s going to release the footage reminded me of Eminem in Stan 😂 “oh wait I forgot, how am I supposed to send this shhhh out “
I love how brutal Charlie's GF is, he has almost every kill in the movie, even though he has a partner, that's something really different. He is tireless, lol.
oh my god i never thought this video would come, i'm jumping for joy!!!!!
This is one of my favorites of the franchise! It was the first one I was able to see in theaters when it came out. I was so excited to see your reaction pop up on my page today!
"Roberts" is Sidney's mother's maiden name. 100% pure coincidence w/ Emma.
the scene when Kirby starts to say all the classics and remakes gave me goosebumps everytime
Wes. Raven actually knew a story about a guy who got stabbed in the head and drove to the hospital
The way Anthony Anderson died is exactly how a dude who got stabbed in the middle of the forehead died for real! I think that was why he said the "f bruce willis" too lol, it happened to be real victims last words, believed to simply be due to his 'scrambled' brain!😱 Crazy!🤯 Thanx for another awesome reaction guys, much love from Australia!🥰 🦘💚🇦🇺💛🦘
Emma Robert's killed it as Jill and saved this movie.
Honestly Emma being such a horror girl I guessed her right off the bat as the bad guy, I wanted to be wrong so bad because she is in so many horror things but hey 😂
Not sure if this was mentioned, but I read that the plan for the franchise was to make 5 and 6 follow Jill and Kirby.
Allegedly, the original Scream 4 script, Jill, Kirby, Gale and Officer Hoss (Adam Brody) were supposed to be the only survivors and Jill gets away with being Ghostface.
And then in Scream 5 was supposed to follow Jill and Kirby into college and they become the target of a new GF killer who knew the truth about Jill being GF and trying to expose her.
45:52 funny thing is , Jill being stalked by a new ghost face and being blackmailed about the killings was going to be the plot of S5
I would have loved to see that
I had just rewatched your other scream reactions the other day wondering when this one would come out!
This was filmed SO long after Scream 3 I was very happy that this came out. For me it got back to it's roots and I loved it.
Absolutely the best since the 1st! Completely agree. Anna Paquin who was Sookie in True Blood was the blonde second girl with Kristen Bell in the beginning.
Bryce is correct, it’s super Meta. It is the Roberts Residence because of Emma Roberts, Anthony Anderson who played the cop Anthony, his last name is Perkins, which is a nod to Anthony Perkins who was the killer in Psycho which then we have the stab movie with the shower scene, and obviously the beginning which is the movie within a movie. And the fact that the clothes that Trevor is wearing in the final scenes are the same style clothes and colors as Sids dad in the first Scream and he’s duct taped and tied up in the closet like her dad. It’s a meta wonderland.
There’s more, but this is one of the more meta screams.
Jill is no doubt one of the best Scream killers. The cold, calculated sociopath, who goes to those lengths to frame Trevor and Charlie, plus this movie was made in 2011, at the time, social media was only just starting to come into effect, so this movie was ahead of it’s time, it was one of the more valid motives. Like Jill said “you don’t have to do anything to be famous anymore” and even now, there’s a hell of a lot of truth in that.
EMMA ROBERTS NAILED IT!!
When Scream 4 came out, they originally were going to make a trilogy where Sidney survived but lost her memory of the Ghostface reveal. Jill would go on to live with the fame while in college (because she was never found out) but the Ghostface killings started again in college (like the second movie). However, ghostface knows what Jill did during 4 and eventually, Sidney remembered what happened. The original 5 and 6 were scrapped because of how poorly 4 did, which is a shame because I loved this movie lol
If you watch deleted scenes, you see a lot more connections to the original movie but execs wanted it cut out and I guess there was a lot of interference from higher ups during the filming of 4.
finally you guys are finishing up your reaction to the scream movies, i've been waiting for so long lol
I liked this one I really liked Kirby’s character she was cool my favourite one out of the sequels I think is the next one I hope you guys do the next two great reaction
It has been so long I forgot you guys were watching one of my FAVORITE fra;chaise and this is MY FAVORITE one!!!!!!!}!}
So in this one, I didn't catch a few things right away till after I watched it a few times.
1. When everyone was getting alerted in the classroom about Jenny and Marnie getting killed Jill was the only one that didn't look at her phone.
2. When Jill and Kirby were watching Charlie killing Olivia. Jill had her phone positioned directly on them videoing it.
3. When Trevor was at Kirbys he was wearing a similar outfit as Sidney's dad Mr. Prescott in Scream who was also being framed. Also, Jill was wearing plaid like Billy in act 3 on Scream.
4. Also, whenever you do a rewatch with this one really watch Charlies facials. Like when Gale went up to him and Robbie about working together to catch the killer or how PISSED he was when Trevor interupted him and Kirby and how he left the livingroom. Then the very next scene you can tell ghostface that killed Robbie the killer was letting off steam the way he attacked him.
Originally in Scream 4, Kevin Williamson wanted Kirby to die, but Wes Craven changed it to where he left a possibility that Kirby could come back. When Charlie walked away from her, the camera was still on her moving on the ground. They were going to end that one with "there's a live one here," and Deweys asks if it's Sidney, and then it ends as a cliffhanger before he got an answer. They were going to put Sidney into a coma offscreen in between 4 and 5 after the house scene, and then Scream 5 was going to pick up where she recovers but have no memory of what happened. Jill was going to be in college and found out that living Sidney's life isn't as glamorous as she thought. Now, there is a killer after her who knows her secret. The theories were that it was going to be Kirby wanting to get revenge on Jill for getting away with what she did to her and her friends. BUT because they didn't know if there was going to be a 5th installment, they didn't want to leave that as an ending for Sidney where it looked like she actually died when that wasn't the case. So they changed the ending of Scream 4 by adding in the hospital scene where Sidney wakes up and Jill dies. That's why Jill says to Sidney at the hospital that "this is just silly, this was supposed to end at the house" and Sidney replies back with "Well consider this as an alternate ending". Which was a good choice on Wes and Kevin's part because Scream 5 ended up not happening until 11 years later, lol.
That girl from Degrassi was also the main character in the 90210 show...not the original show but the new one that came out a couple years ago.
Remember Sidney was bestfriends with Dewies sister, we learned that he did have a major crush on her in the first movie but after his sister dies, and he meets Gale, he feels incredibly protective over Sidney.
12:52 THE SYNCHRONIZED LAUGHTER UIDSNEFNISJFK
So happy ya’ll are reacting to this and I agree that this one is probably the best one since the classic first movie and it’s just so well done, acted and the one liners towards the end are just iconic not to mention the cast. Pleasant surprise seeing this pop up but also much needed after bawling on the one day finale episode lmao
There's also deleted scenes of Scream 4 on UA-cam as well. After Marnie and Jenny were killed, they were staged in the living room. Marnie was hung from the ceiling fan like how Casey was hung from the tree in Scream 96, and Jenny was sitting in a chair like Steve. Wes Craven also did a tiny pop-up cameo as a coroner at Marnie and Jenny's crime scene.
Olivia had a pet door around her neck, and Dewey told Deputy Hicks about his sister Tatum about how she died. After putting together both crime scenes he came to a realization that the killer was making its own version of a remake due to how each murder was staged similar to the victums that were killed in the original. One of the other favorites I wish they kept in the movie is the whole friend group, except for Jill sitting at a fountain talking about the events similar to Scream 96. Originally, Charlie wasn't going to try to kill Sidney but Kirby may have accidentally gave him the idea of it and it made him rethink of the game plan on Sidney.
Literally perfect timing for my lunch break
YAY I WAS HOPING U GUYS WOULD DO THIS ONE ITS ONE OF MY FAVS
i have been waiting for this, can't wait till your reaction to scream 5!!!
can't wait for scream 5 & 6!!!!! JENNA ORTEGAAA
You 3 peep everything & pay attention to detail very well it’s fascinating lowkey lol
I’m so excited to watch thissss!! Also you guys look great! Hope you’re all doing well☺️❤️
I remember watching this at 15 years old when it came out and fully noting how accurate the movie was about the dangers of wanting to become famous in the age of social media. This movie has only aged better and better!!
They freaking put out a casting call for all the cute famous 2000s actresses i swear!! 🤣❤️. This is my favorite of the 2nd "trilogy"! Right up there with og scream!!
"When did they tie him up?" "When it went black" cracked me up just being so straightffoward but I was thinking the samee like they sat inside looking out as JILL put him in a chair and tied him up like thatd tak while 🤣
“Don’t F*** with the original” is an iconic line Rob. We get it you’re so edgy
Sydney is the final girl in any movie. Jill made a awesome Ghost face. Kirby was one of my favourite characters
i fully get rob with the head stabbing scene, there’s always something super unsettling about brain/head injury stuff to me. one of the scariest ways to see someone die lol fuck that
Yes! Ive been waiting. I love this movie
i saw this in theatres in 2011 / eleventh grade with my best friend and i can remember thinking the meta dialogue was way too hammy and tbh i still do but i also thought both the murder mystery and Jill as the killer + her motive were all quite well done 😂 going into 4 with the mindset that this was a "next generation" type of sequel totally blinded me to Jill, now on rewatch without that one assumption she suddenly comes off as way more suspicious and strange 😂😂😂😂 also God daaaamn all the 2011 fashion!!!!