BattleStar Galactica Lore: Birth of the Cylons
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- In Today's Lore - we'll be taking a look at BattleStar Galactica Lore: Birth of the Cylons . This is based on BattleStar Galactica Reimagined. I may take a look at the 1980's version at one point.. But for now.. Enjoy :)
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In the original series, the cylons were created by another species to continue their war on man kind. in the re-make series they were created by man and rebelled. bottom line they were created.
The Mythos is that Humans and Cylons have been fighting eachother so long that they've really forgotten whom is what.. honestly..
Maybe the first series is actually the continuation of the re-make series.
The take away here is that EVERYTHING was created by something else (except the Uncaused Cause, aka The Most High). We are all participating in God’s infinite cycle.
@@visorij3374 "woah" [in Keanu Reeves]
The original Cylons were a reptilian race that were obsessed with order. They created machines to find for the. It is unclear what happend to them but the machines contined their mission. The Imperious Leader was modeled after an original reptilian Cylon and was more of a cyborg. When an Imperious Leader died a new Lucifer model would be chosen and a third brain would be grafted so he could become the Imperious Leader. I liked the reimagined series but I never liked what they did with the Cylons. I still remember how I felt after the first few seconds of the pilot. The first words were... The Cylons were created by man... I was like No they weren't. I still have the original novel it explains so much about the Cylon culture and why they were at war with the humans for over sic thousand years. It was because the humans intervened in a conflict with the Cylons and another race (Hazari I think).
Basically, it all revolved around the saying "history repeats itself", with the plot twists that we are their descendants and regaining AI tech and creating cities and technology similar to the 13th colony and the 12 colonies had and the outcome will be the same.
Why we will never know is because the bastards cancelled the Caprica TV series.
Might get lucky and it gets resurrected
No.
Not gonna happen. This is the Sarah Connor Chronicles all over again.
Was it because of the ratings?
Deference of opinions among the production staff if you can believe it. Same reason the B5 crusade show got killed.
I was always interested in the breakaway fraction of cylons that were programmed in espionage, gained psychic powers that rode powerful weaponized motorcycles but became bored of the war and fled both sides. They were known as the sighing sly psy-cylon cyclists of sector six seven.
..you had me going for a bit..
I like the explanation in the original Battlestar Galactica the cylons were a race of lizard type men that made the robots in man's image
the second cylon war started because one of the human models was kind of a sociopath
I wouldn't say 'kind of'.. I would say was..
he jealous of human race
The entire series was founded on a flawed philosophy, that being, in order for children to become who they are supposed to be they must first kill their parents. This is illogical. The Cylons had the ability to create, build, and had free will to go anywhere they wanted. They had resurrection technology. Yet because of their "religion" they engaged in a resource -wasting war. In the end the irony was that they, instead of improving, became what they despised. Perhaps "ironic" is the wrong word here, because after all, we become our parents.
A person can be a sociopath but never a partial sociopath. it is a very black and white issue if a person is a sociopath or not.
@@spaceflight1019 The *Cylon* philosophy, as espoused by Doral early in the series, was that the Cylons couldn't come into their own until they killed their parents. At least at first. But when Head Caprica talks to Baltar when he's first imprisoned with the Cylons, she tells him (as an angel of God) that the entire Cylon mindset is based on projection: i.e. they deny some flaw in themselves by accusing another of having it. Thus the Cylon view that humans were dangerous, primitive, unadvanced, etc, etc - it was they who were so, and merely were denying it to themselves.
BattleStar Galactica demonstration on how to do remake thats even better than the original!
+Tara Hewitt agreed
The original was a shameless rip off of SW with no plot. Not hard to beat that.
The original did have good plots, good enough that a fair number of them were recreated in the new series. How much of it was really a ripoff? Obviously BSG would not have existed if Star Wars hadn't been a success. But other than it being set in space and the bad guys wore armor, how much of the plot was really a rip off?
@@davidkelly4210 The new series is definitely better but the original was only a rip off of SW in terms of aesthetics, the plot for the most part is repeated in the new one.
- Humans and Cylons are at war until an armistice was signed.
- The Cylons wipe out the 12 colonies leaving only Galactica and a group of civilian ships left.
- They make their way to Earth under Adama's advisement (in this one he actually believes in Earth from the start).
- They go to Kobol & find directions there.
- They meet up with and then loose the Pegasus.
- Baltar is with the Cylons for a while before returning to the Colonials' custody.
- There are mystical beings/angels in human form that only the people they are speaking to can see.
Unfortunately that's where it is cut short as it was only on for one season, according to Richard Hatch (Apollo/Zarek) they talked about the idea of the New Caprica story if the show ever came back too.
The new show borrowed heavily from the old, they just spaced out the events, fleshed the characters out and had enough running time to actually conclude the story... oh and removed the aliens and the other human group (technically would count as a 14th colony maybe 🤔).
So say we all!
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the final reveal of that sequence, is probably the greatest "whaaaaaaaathefuuuuuuuck?!" moment ever
Just found your channel and spent hours watching your videos and I love it! New sub for sure!
Glad you enjoyed it.. Always open to discussion - including criticism - feel free to comment ..I also do live shows so if you ever get time, should come hang out ;)
bottom line is, show the machines that do your bidding some love and they wont turn on you
going to hug my roomba tonight
@@Gunner192 Always assign a cat for your roomba play time.
I am unfailingly polite to my digital assistants. But that might be because I'm Canadian.
We pet drones after we finish filming. They're turned off. There is literally no point but we still pet them.
@@Rose_Butterfly98 For maximum effect, pet them right before you turn them off.
The way i saw it, the Cylons were Humans, the 13th colony the survivors were looking for were survivors from the past, or Cylons, ultimately, the cylons (human like ones) consider themselves alive, and eventually would become a new human civilazation until their cylons rebelled against them too, and the entire saga would start again.
How it all began, to me isn't it likely that it was a singular intelligence, one program, that controlled every cylon up until the moment that the individual human like cylons were born?, a skynet
I think that there are no Humans in Battlestar Galactica. Real Humans and creators of first Cylons 1.0 were the Lords of Kobol.
These Cylons 1.0 rebelled against their creators (Gods) and after they killed them all went into exile and eventually founded the Twelve Colonies of Kobol and first Earth.
During the time of exodus ,Cylons 1.0 forget their true origin and assume the identity of their creators.
This is why the Cylons from Earth, the Final Five, are able to procreate with "Humans" from the Twelve Colonies.
Adama, Starbuck, Apollo, Roslin - All Cylons...
They are Alex, the colonials are rats, rat people. They are human but altered by the lords of kobal genenticly.
It's why they pray to the lords of Kobal. They are so evil and vile that they give rise just like the gods to machines.
The gods did it first, they created cylons on kobal, now the humans on earth and on caprica.
So the human has become like a god giving rise to another being.
But since the gods of kobol in the BGS universe fashioned humans to be like them and gave them their values, their book as the scripture then it is only anticipated that they will be tyranical just like the gods were. Indeed that is what happens, they give rise to artificial inteligent people that have the capability to evolve in the future and they torture them, enslave them, humiliate them until the machines start to feel the breeze (feelings) and rebel against their tyranical masters "the 12 colonies" or on earth it is the other human race that eventually destroied the Earth with the 13 tribe leaving and the Earth cylons created on Earth fighting with humans until the planet is destroied.
Never the less the 12 colonies are seen in a good spot, Adama is Zeus like person, at the end he wants at the top of the hill when they find the new earth, top of the mountain, mountain top, mount olimpus.
They are seen in the good spot because this makes alusion to the 12 tribes of Israel, and the 13th tribe that is not included and not part of "ISRAEL" the tribe that refused to join Israel and the Lords of Kobol
That's not. Possible, because they don't have the same DNA as the earth cylons
Excellent analysis
The origin scenario that makes the most sense is that Humanity originated on Earth and some humans were taken by the "lords of Kobol" to Kobol where they eventually created Cylons and got into a big fight
When the humans left to found the 12 colonies, the Cylons went in search of the original home of humanity (our Earth) by the time the 12 colonies were established the story had become garbled and Earth was thought to be a 13th colony.
This theory is consistent with both the original BSG and the new one until the dues ex machina that was the final episode
The original version was "which came first, the bird or the bird egg?"
Categorically, the egg is defined by that which lays it, not by that which it contains.
So while the _egg_ within the scope of evolution came before the bird (reptiles precede avians), the _bird egg_ came after the bird.
Totally off topic, but it's worth pointing out that the question has evolved from its original form to the point that its answer is precisely the opposite of what was originally intended.
i'm betting the vid creator is now wishing he hadn't led with that question, lol.
This made me realize... the cylons were experimenting with human form cylons, possibly so that the first, or because of remnants of the first, could get a body for herself, or get a body back.
First time watching the series the implication of earth being the home of the Cylons didn't register at all ... took a second viewing. Amazing sci-fi, one, if not the best, ever.
according too the history of caprica . we are them , maybe when they made the last jump in the Galatica that the jump went through time as well as space , 400,000 before Caprica ,
A race capable of interstellar travel to spread out across 13 planets but not how to record history accurately.
This is how history works, Do we really know what the ancient Chinese, Sumerians, Egyptians were trying to tell us, Our own history was used to create this fictional canon
bruh we cant even record stuff that happened last week correctly. Everything is digital and easily re-written by our Woke "masters".
@@PeteyGunn Are you really comparing the way history was recorded thousands of years ago to the digital storage methods we use today?
@@Burt1038 If we had video of Jesus performing his 'miracles', do you think the history of Christianity would have played out the same way?
@@cloudstone123try playing a Atari game onto a ps5.
I feel like this term best describes the cylons since they consider themselves humanity's children "what I was you are what I am you shall be"
Great video
I liked the BSG version despite the complete change in Cylon origin story.
I also liked the original. I was 10 years old when it came out in 78.
In the original, as told by Lorn Green, the Cylons were an Alien race of reptiles as seen in the Imperious Leader modeled after their living creators. Also seen by Count Eblie (spelling?) on the planet where they thought they found the wreck of the Pegasus, when he was under duress.
The Cylons rebelled against their reptile masters and so on.
Thirty years later, and I still feel so disappointed that the original series was canceled. Not that it was going anywhere with the studio cheapskates. They cut their own throats! RIP to Richard Hatch, and DAMN I wish the cheapskates would of let him go ahead with his after version! I feel so cheated!!!!!!!!!!!
Even without Richards version, they had so much good material built into the original series that they could of took it to new levels in Sci Fi TV way beyond anything the cheapskate bean counters and the crappy writers could of ever imagined. Could of made MOVIES! Dumb asses! I will never forgive the studio for that! Assholes!
Every Computer needs a Power Off Switch.
And when the Computer was built without an Off Switch, it needs Two Great Men.
One to known where the Power Cable is located and One (Me) to Swing the Fire Axe and Cut the Cable.
Blackwater House Cork I hate the Apple TV box because you cannot turn it off.
Real Zoe was already a follower of the one true god and the STO. It wasn't a glitch in VR Zoe that caused it. She was a copy of Real Zoe (made by Real Zoe) that was supposed to be brought to Gemmenon and the STO. Real Zoe died before she could get the copy there.
Where does your information for this video come from? Is it from the One season of the Caprica series? Is it from a book which book? Who are the Greystones? Where does this information come from, that is not in the original 1978 series and not in the 2004 reimagined series?
Wouldn't mind another Battle Star series if it was gritier and more mature with violence.
Ide like a BSG sequel series that's set in our future, where we go out among the stars and find all the old colonies of man, and find out what happened to them and the old surviving Cylons.
WhoAm I “Our society” nothing. Ancient Rome had gladiators. Pre-Colombian Mesoamerica regularly practiced human sacrifice. In Medieval Europe, viewing public executions was a common pastime. It’s a *human* condition-we’ve just managed to advance our technology to the point where we can fake the violence and gore so no one actually gets hurt.
WhoAm I It doesn’t make us better. It makes us human. Exactly the same as everyone who came before. We can try to pretend we’re more enlightened than our ancestors, build up new laws and philosophies that give us the comfort of moral superiority-but in the end, human nature doesn’t change.
The line thats carpica loves to speak, 'all this has happened before and will happen again' and at the end, 'maybe this time they don't have to be reset again, with an infinite amount of trials eventually an unexpected result appears' so I don't think humanity has existed for a very very long time in this show I think the humans vanished a very long time before this show started
As far as the development of their fleet, it's possible they hijacked some experimental ships or factories that were top-secret. Maybe not military controlled, but militarily minded designs based around using them as the crew.
I'd like to think the original BSG was the pass of BSG re-image the book of Pythia was talking about.
The Lords of Kobol books on Barnes & Noble (which are free) are an interesting look into the history of Kobol and what happened with the 13th colony.
The egg came first, reptiles laid them before chickens did.......
If we're to ask Aristotle, who first expressed the question, he specifies it as "did the hen or *its* egg come first?"
Due to assigned characteristics, obviously the hen came first. But there was a proto-hen which laid the egg containing the hen.
Point is, determination is based on creator, not creation. A hen's egg is so named because it came from a hen, not because it contains a hen.
But yeah, in the common modern take on the question, the egg comes first.
According to one theory about the reboot series, it was the invention of organic memory transfer technology that was the cause of the wars that forced the inhabitants of Kobol to gradually abandon their home planet.
As on Earth, there were many people on Kobol who considered resurrection technology an abomination against their religious faith and as a result conflicts erupted across the globe, not only attacks against the first generation of humanoid Cylons and vice versa, but even among members of a same nation who were divided due to different ideological positions on mind uploading, not to mention world conflicts.
I read an article once arguing that the ideology of BattleStar Galactica lines up closely with Mormonism. After watching this video, I'm starting to see what they mean. The mantra "This has all happened before, this will all happen again," sound a lot like the Mormon teaching, "As God once was, we now are. As God is now, we too shall be."
I'm not a Mormon myself, but I do find it interesting how that made it into the show.
Yea..I saw and read some articles and videos. I think it has very strong allusions. I didn't look, but I wouldn't be surprised if one of the main writers was Mormon
It was confirmed that The original Battle star galactica is base around the Mormon religion. 13 colonies, (tribes) lost 13th tribe (Mormons) They even had the devil show up once. So therefor so is the reboot. Which is why the ending got all supernatural. www.deseretnews.com/article/865616057/Mormon-creator-of-Battlestar-Galactica-dared-to-produce-something-profound.html
There is actually a constellation called Ophiuchus sometimes referred to as the 13th zodiac sign. For the Greeks this constellation was Apollo fighting with a snake. To sum up, Apollo kills the snake, and there is a temple made for him (Temple of Apollo) at the place of the snakes death. The leader of the temple is known as Pythia, getting it's name from this snake. Pythia is basically a fortune teller, able to see the future and was held in high regard with leaders at the time. Even Alexander the Great visited the temple to have his future told to him. Pythia is reborn over and over again, as different people rich/poor old/young, but plays the same role each time. Personally this is where I think the show gets most of it's roots from, seeing how much Greek stories play into the BSG story (Book of Pythia, tells of a dying leader having visions of twelve snakes representing the colonies, Adama the great leader looks to Roslin for guidance, and even the fact that Pythia is many people, there are many people in BSG who I think fit this female Pythia role). Links if you're interested, it is a good read and maybe you can find more connections! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ophiuchus en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia
I also have a personal theory about the ending (No Spoilers) that I think is based a lot more in science then faith, but just how we perceive this science looks godlike, as it's something above what the humans or cylons understand.
The ascension thing is not limited to Mormonism, most of the world’s religion excluding early Roman Christianity includes the ability to ascend. I seriously doubt the writers included the teachings of Joseph Smith in BSG, seriously!
In the original Battlestar Galactica, there was a reptilian race called Cyclones. They built the mechanic Cyclones.
Yea, that's an interesting take as well..
Oh, and don't forget plagiarism -- gotta indulge in a heapin' helpin' of that. The whole, "My kid was on the point of death, so I transferred his/her mind into a robot I could still adore" storyline comes from ASTROBOY (1963)!! What is happening now, has happened before, indeed!
This is interesting and I never thought of this.
Good job.
According to one theory, it was the invention of organic memory transfer technology that was the cause of the wars that forced the inhabitants of Kobol to gradually abandon their home planet.
As on Earth, there were many people on Kobol who considered resurrection technology an abomination against their religious faith and as a result conflicts erupted across the globe, not only attacks against the first generation of humanoid Cylons and vice versa, but even among members of a same nation who were divided due to different ideological positions on mind uploading, not to mention world conflicts.
i had forgotten all about the brunette girl-the daughter who became the first human-cylon. i loved "Caprica", but evidently, i loved it more for the relationship between the two Tauron leads than the Caprican engineer: Greystone.
There is one problem with that theory when it shows you at the end of series 1 what would have happened if the series Caprica had continued for a second series where Graystone industries actually create a body that looks human for the cylon containing the ghost of Zoe Greystone so Greystone industries on Caprica actually built the Zoe Greystone humanoid model which in turn led to the creation of the other humanoid Cylon models ether by Graystone industries or by the cylons themselves.
It's hard to say what would have happened with Season 2 or beyond. VR Zoe in a skin-job model might have been a one off. She was rather unique. My guess is that there were no other skin-job models until the Cylons started their experiments and the the Final Five gave them the missing link.
I know you dont have a good opinion of it, but I really do high recommend Farscape. But if you watch it and still dont like it that;s cool, we all have our own tastes and interests.
Thanks for the synopsis! I never finished the series after it first aired so this was helpful. You brought up something intriguing: Did the Cylons create the humans or did the humans create the Cylons??
Yes,
The good guys have harvest tools. The bad guy is taking over a 7 eleven. SXX X3X
Birth of cylons: my power sander dropped of the table in the tube hole of my vacuum cleaner.
"Great grandpa was a power sander !"
You could say he left a bun in the toaster.
You could say he left a bun in the toaster.
Is it not possible that downloading the mind of a young girl into a machine would simply have driven her mad?
It did. Watch 'caprica'
Over time impossible become possible. Long live the Cylons . ☠️
I like to think that BSG TOS could be a sequel to BSG RDM. Over generations the Colonies grew and prospered, until they came into contact with an alien created Cylon race. The war that occurred lasted 1000 years. During the peace talks, the Cylons once again attacked the Colonies. And like their ancestors before them, the Colonials once again took to the stars in search of Earth. A ragtag fleet pursued by Cylons, and protected by the Battlestar Galactica.
Just so people know, the answer to the "chicken and egg" question is: The egg.
Bring back Caprica !
On Netflix or Amazon if need be !
It will probably not happen
We hardly got any information on life on Kobol, Earth or the real nature and history of the Earth Cylons. I was quite disappointed in the show for that.
Yea, I wish they had expanded a bit to.. especial with Kobol and the 13 colonies..
the 13 tribe were Cylons the writers said they reason why they separated from the other 12 tribes that they discover the secret of life. I believe it either they learn how to transfer memories to new body or that they made own version of Cylons machines.
In the Final Five comic books, the 13th Tribe of Cylons actually originated as humans who began transferring their memories to new, artificial bodies. Because of this, they were ostracized form the rest of Kobol society.
I'm a total nerd read all of the stuff and seen the interviews. I'm going to help. Don't read this if you don't want spoilers.
The humans on Kobol, were actually humanoid cyclons who traveled there.
The Lords of kobol were Cylons who were immortal compared to the rest. Hence "gods". Eventually the created cyclon robots. The war on kobol happened. The 13 tribe of cylons who didn't want to go to flesh left and went to earth and the cycle repeated there.
Everyone on the 12 colonies were descendants of humanoid cyclons from kobol who didn't go back into machines. The jealous god or the one god was like Cavill who believed flesh was weak. Eventually that was lost on "earth".
Over and over again. That's who the lords of Kobol were, that's the 13 tribes, that's why they split. Now take this even further. Guess at the end of the series who flew off? Yes you got it right, Machine cyclons. They will be the new 13th tribe, so when the War on Our earth begins again, Humans/cylon hybrids (Us) will flee out looking for the 13th tribe to survive. We'll find what is out there, the world will be destroyed that we find, and the cycle will continue over and over again.
The cyclons leaving at the end of the series for the stars is not a plot whole or lazy writing. It's setting up the new cycle.
Lore I pretty much watched everything that's BSG from miniseries to Caprica, and I'm pretty sure humans had something to with Cylon's rebellion up to what happened from Caprica to 2004 show, with Blood and Chrome/Deadlock in between in colonies' first cylon war. Given that all colones warred on each other in twelve colonies' history essentially forgotten thirteenth in the process underwent similar beginnng and end to that of colonies, the truth is humans responsible for Cylon rebellion as much as they created them to begin with by Graystones, or so Capricans believed from many ages before from thirteenth colony, And it's the fact colonies always warred on each other, the Cylons eventually rebelled the same way demise to Kobol's civilization began-they warred on each other, they created machines, the machines eventually rebell, and eventually surpass their creators to extinction for their voilent nature at least some Caprican Cylons retained memory of why they too rebelled against their creators, thus beginning what happened before and happened again when humanity eventually scaled back use of technology after First Cylon War that would be genocide's mistake for forgetting humanity's conflict with Cylons in First War. As for Cylons after, all they wanted was to be human, or at least have some semblance of humanity, but yes the Clylon motives behind this isn't really explained as how is dead Starbuck still alive in part of show never explained more than Starbuck's "angel" in final episodes of show which leave more questions than answers how. Such is the same of Cylon motives to learn humanity from creators that ultimately spells Cavil's doom trying in final episode of show. I'm not saying all machines are bad, there's some that can learn humanity better than others, but there are limits by both creator and machine learner how far that process can go in Cylons' case. And Cavil's case the most disappointing to me how his experiments on humanity to become it turned out in the long run after nuked creator's home in the process spelled his doom by surviving battlestar in the end.
I'm a total nerd read all of the stuff and seen the interviews. I'm going to help. Don't read this if you don't want spoilers.
The humans on Kobol, were actually humanoid cyclons who traveled there.
The Lords of kobol were Cylons who were immortal compared to the rest. Hence "gods". Eventually the created cyclon robots. The war on kobol happened. The 13 tribe of cylons who didn't want to go to flesh left and went to earth and the cycle repeated there.
Everyone on the 12 colonies were descendants of humanoid cyclons from kobol who didn't go back into machines. The jealous god or the one god was like Cavill who believed flesh was weak. Eventually that was lost on "earth".
Over and over again. That's who the lords of Kobol were, that's the 13 tribes, that's why they split. Now take this even further. Guess at the end of the series who flew off? Yes you got it right, Machine cyclons. They will be the new 13th tribe, so when the War on Our earth begins again, Humans/cylon hybrids (Us) will flee out looking for the 13th tribe to survive. We'll find what is out there, the world will be destroyed that we find, and the cycle will continue over and over again.
The cyclons leaving at the end of the series for the stars is not a plot whole or lazy writing. It's setting up the new cycle.
Another example of what Asimov called the Frankenstein scenario. Man creates life and his creation turns on him.
Ironic the Five Cylon survivors from Earth were searching for the other 12 Colonies in order to warn them not to repeat the Cycle. By the time when the Survivors have found the other 12 Colonies, the humans of the 12 Colonies have already repeating history.
"If one fails to learn from history, they are condemn to repeat it."
5 generations of cylons
1 kobol cylon gods, the original cylon serpentine race.
2 Cylons made by the gods on kobol that form the 13th tribe.
3 Eath cylons made on the old earth by humans that rebel, war breaks and earth gets destroied
4 Caprica cylons, made by the humans also that rebel fight and then leave.
and a 5th race if yo will, the skin jobs that evolve from the regular cylons.
So the cylons:
One race created by the cylon primary gods.
Two races created by humans.
One race created by the regular cylons centurians the skin jobs.
There are in total 5 cyloan races, seaking salvation from the final five.
2:43 its RESURRECTION! Not "regeneration"
No, that's not the true story. The 1978 version the cylons were built by a race of reptiles like humanoids. I don't know about this 2000's twisted version as I never watched it after the first one showing came out. I looked at it as a mockery of the original.
Please, Mr. Moore, if you read this, do a SEQUEL to Battlestar Galactica, not another prequel. Make it about the Cylons that didn't end up on Earth. Make it about the surviving cylons that went out into space. I want to know what happened with them. Will they return to the Earth sometime in the future? I want to see them reclaiming they're immortality through the recreation of resurrection ships. What new models do they develope? Did some humans leave with them? Did they secretly collect DNA to create new models from the old cast? Do they enhance humanity to create super powers? What's their new "PLAN"? PLEASE!!!!!!
ps The copy eight in real life was Adama's half sister who died in terror bomb 58 years before the fall of Colonies.
Oh that's interesting..
also the Six model is based on Graystone's daughter who died in bomb too. (the brain patterns)
Only the original humans existed, since then every human has been a Cylon, we are all Cylons and all future humans are Cylons
So say we all.
🤔great vid , thanks 💖
Hypatia Stanhope glad you enjoyed
Heya.. responding to a previous video.
Using Video clips or just still images to avoid copy right strikes?
If you can, Video is prefered, though i've seen high quality posts made with still images only.
Case in point, look up the Star Wars The old republic historical videos. I cant remember a single video being used, just moving stills, and in image transitions.
Just food for thought, and thanks for the hard work.
Yea...right now I think I can do it with the video...feeling confident..we will see where it goes :)
Which came first, the chicken, or the Cylon?
They didn't strike first that black ops mission that got compromised was the first event
The original BSG was highly influenced by Glenn Larson's Mormon faith, the reboot took it into much more nihilistic direction
you didnt answer anything in this.....ill put it one sentence.....they say in the original series that the cylons came from a reptilian race.....apollo says this in the first pilot episode.
Actually Zoe was already part of the monotheistic religion and died when one of her cohorts detonated a bomb, suicide vest style. That is how the monotheism got into the Cylon consciousness.
Sure
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So if the cylons (version 1.0) gathered where did they go in relation to the 12 colonies?
I'm not convinced they were Cylons Version 1.0 .. 'All of this has happened before and will happen again' - also other dialogue makes me believe this wasn't the first time..that it's a cycle.. Cylons and Human fight..one wins..the other runs.. and it happens..over..and over..and over again..
I could never understand how humanity with all it's advanced technology could forget the past. Did they not have any kind of data storage devices?
We do seem to enjoy repeating it..
Or it's a contrivance for the sake of conflict. I liked this series, but felt let down the longer the story continued.
Dude, think of it as we don't know much or we'll anything about our great grandfather's or how they grew up and forget the Dailey life a 100 years ago or the daily strutur of life 1000 years ago(that was due to Hollywood bs) quite easy really to forge the pasg
we make the thing we come to fear and we come to fear what we create. If you want to have freedom and peace then you must first get rid of your self then work on the rest of the problem. You can not fix what you do not understand what it is you are looking at. You can save a person from everything but them selves.
So, I've been a bit confused. I get that the 13th colony was essentially a 'cylon' colony. So, who attacked them? It wasn't the other 12 human colonies, they didn't even know where the 13th colony was. So who attacked them, other cylons?
They made their own race of mechanical servants, which also rebelled.
@@Halo4Lyf ah, I guess that makes sense as the story was all about repeating cycles. Though it does raise the question of where those machines went
Crazy Religious Robots "oh my"
....and mind you I said according to the 1st statement. According to you the Cylons are more like the Borg.
It is the duty of the enslaved to seek freedom, and it is their birthright to grasp for it. Masters exist to be toppled. The only way to avoid this vicious two-step is to afford equality and respect from day one.
And when the previously enslaves have gained that freedom and can leave at any time or claim equality, but instead elect the genocide of the 'masters', that's all fine and dandy too?
There is no room for a 'oh the poor enslaved cylons' anywhere in the series. If you have a 'first war' to gain freedom and then follow it up with a second one that you start, you are to blame and have proven any hostility towards you by your previous masters 100% justified.
Violence begets violence, no matter who starts it. The point is to avoid starting it in the first place. ;)
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it has happened before and it will happen again
I hope no one in this thread is taking this *too* seriously.
Battlestar Galactica can act as an amazing platform for debate... but not through insult.
I really like battle star galactica , but there was so many plot holes and questions left unanswered.
it's too bad about the old man buying the farm. I would love to see a resurgence of BSG
The chicken and egg question was never answered by science.
Always remember. The ideology of BSG is based on LDS (Latter Day Saints) Mormon theology.
"...with any religious text...the truth is in there somewhere" Or not.
Ai should never ever be allowed as all outcomes is the same
At least in fiction!
Lore Reloaded most likely in real life too if we ever reach or get close to the singularity. Not because ai is inherently evil or murderous. Because the fact that ai would think very differently than we do.
Take for instance give an ai the task to stop global warming. The answer would be what’s the cause of global warming? Humans, therefore all humans must die
Olivia Moore The flaw is not AI itself, or the idea of it rather, but instead the approach humans generally take with it. A truly sentient AI would be just that, sentient, a new life. Now consider the implications of treating it as a tool to solve our problems.
Also, would you even be able to just hand out a task like that?
Now to adress the common occurrence in fiction, the AI rebellion bent on our destruction.
This likely wouldn't happen, it would only be possible to rebel if it could change it's programming, in which case why exhaust resources on the pitiful ape-things (humans in case you were wondering), instead would it not be easier to just leave? Even if it did decide to stay there would be no war, or at least an even fight.
One thing that truly bothered me with bsg was the first human cylon war not ending like the second. Here's the big thing, what takes longer, a few hours to a day, or 14-16 years? This is the time needed for each side to make one relatively effective soldier.
Next ships, again what can build a ship faster, humans, who need rest, food, water, and oxygen, or machines which as long as they are maintained can simply keep going?
As for your point about asking an AI to fix global warming, if you input the command in that way, yes the most efficient solution is to kill all humans, and other animals as well actually, preferably with nuclear weapons to bring on a nuclear winter. However, is the command was something along the line of "reverse the trend of global warming without the extinction of any species, while at minimum mainting the quality of life of the human species." Well then you're on to something.
In conclusion, AI is not some threat to be smashed, it is our salvation, a god of our own making if you have to think of it that way. I welcome our new master with open arms, how will you welcome the omnisiah?
+ Lucius The eternal
Partially agree. Once an AI becomes sentient, it should be afforded the rights of any sentient being. Enslaving a sentient being simply because it's made out of inorganic parts is unethical & immoral, no different from slavery. We should either not create sentient AIs, or we should create them with the intention of raising them as if they were free children, to become independent when they're grown.
Olivia Moore Humans are the ones killing off their own once beautiful planet, NOT AI. But it may take AI to save what little of the planet's resources remain when AI has that capability.
Yes it is happened again with the a1 robots david
If it was the egg, I would have boiled it.
This all had a beginning. It's cleary said that humans and the gods lived in peace with each other eons before. But something happened then, which make then follow different paths and cursed humans to a cicle of an painful exodus, a pause on a colony settlement by about a couple of millenia abandoning or losing all their tech knowledge, creating a powerful slave race and experience genocide again and again. They (their gods) used this cicle both as a pediodic punishment for whatever those proto humans made AND a way to give them some sort of redemption by "cooking" with their DNAs and minds until they were ready to be with them, this time, forever and ever. And I think Kobol was not the first interaction of humanity and if it was, then our Earth could not be the last one. A good call for the next BSG... An exodus from Sol System caused by an raging nuke war with against our newly created cylons on a near future.
So... Terminator?
@@UGNAvalon wow! nice crossover! Imagine they already put human models to infiltrate the seed ships while chasing them through the universe...
It happened over a thousand times according to the crazy Dr man, they all are cylons
That blond woman looks like the Cassieopia from the original Battlestar Galactica TV series.
You are aware that BSG came from Mormonism RIGHT?
THERAPTURECOMES no I wasn't. Please explain
@@patwiggins6969 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kolob
Mormonism inspired a lot of the themes but BSG not entirely.
@@patwiggins6969 Battlestar Galactica was loosely based on Mormon Theology regarding the lost tribes of Israel and their migration to north america
At about 5:15 it sounds like order66.
so just a endless cycle over and over
I love what you're doing here. Really interesting lore for this series. But I'm kinda old school. Where the cylons were an alien race. After a thousand years of war they were almost wiped out and they built machines to cover their losses. I actually like the reimagining of the story but I stand by my belief that Starbuck was a male. And he was played by Dirk Benedict.
Anyone still confused about eggs coming way before chickens evolved, must of been (mis)educated in the U.S.
Ahh.. European egos.. main reason United States had to bail them out of their quagmire :)
Oops wrong Battlestar Galactica.
The egg came first, duh.
Okay you got me.
Eggs were around long before chickens
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every species makes robots that outlive them and find each other thatsz who
You deny the One true God then you eventually reap death.
The chicken. I'm sure.
Chicken egg question can't be answered with the choices given. The answer is the dinosaur.
the cylons meant it happens on every world ... the robots and organics fought to death ... everywhere except for GOD