@@spikyhorse1185 The demo's A.I. is decent. He doesn't go into hunt mode like in the original game but I guess that isn't the point. Idk just doesn't seem realistic that he would know I'm in his house and not try and find me. He can't see me in certain parts of the house, and when you step out onto the front porch he just stares at you. This is the problem with the new games. There is NO level of threat involved when the Neighbor tries to get you. It used to be that he would run at you non-stop to catch you, and you would wake up hours later, IN YOUR HOUSE, with all of your items looted off you. It was creepy knowing he had to be in your house too. Now he just throws you outside and you can just run back into his house in 3 seconds. The A.I. is better, but isn't great and definitely isn't the level of A.I. we were promised when Inyoja (SushiSpam) made that comment. TBF it's only a demo but then again that was only a Beta and we're only mere months away from the full game releasing. Not trying to sound so harsh but I'm just angry that this game is going downhill.
My only gripe with Hello Neighbor is that the creators broke a lot of fan’s promises to make it a true horror game. They just changed the designs because they just wanted theories. Other than that, I like most of the Hello Neighbor games.
I can't tell if this was because of bad leadership or they just didn't understand what they were doing was going in the wrong direction. But yeah the games do be fun
@@inyoja my biggest problem that they removed pre Alpha chase music ( it only appear at Act 1 ending) That music made game way more scary in pre Alpha
i remember the first time i seen pre alpha, terrifying to me, the art, ambience, how is house was huge but somewhat realistic, but just doesnt feel right, once alpha 2 came out, that was entirely lost
I'm surprised the full release is even listed as stealth horror, it's more puzzle now, not even scary nor really possible to be stealthy at most times.
I like the alphas a lot. I started playing them in my brothers computer and found them on steam. Just look up Hello Neighbor Alpha 1 or Pre Alpha. Those alphas and other alphas they are scary. I dont play the final release since I got bored and got all the trophies on the ps4. At least the Alphas are scary because in alpha 1, it's like sneaking in without him seeing you, but you dint know where he is.
Someone has to remake the full game with stealth, ambience( Like when the neighbor is close ) or basically taking what the pre alpha and alpha one and applying that. Now of course it’s probably way to big, but I still have hope that someone will make a serious full release
Your points make so much sense. But the only reason I like full release is since its artstyle really looks and fits it. Like the view in act 3 from top. Trees. In books also same kind of art followed. The thing is full release art looks cool, weird. So I like it. But pre alpha was so realistic and scary. It was best as a horror game. But full release is good as artstyle.
Yeah, it's a fun art style, and I'm pretty sure that, with the right atmosphere, it could look downright twisted. Imagine being in one a these rooms, in the dark, only some soft red light from outside coming in, and you find yourself surrounded in portraits of eyes, peeking down at you from the wall. I don't mind the art style one bit... ...I just wish the cupboards weren't so goddamn clumsy. Like, those ones with the four drawers. These drawers are so uneven and so narrow, they just feel janky every time I see someone try to open them.
Very close isn't correct, i checked the game files and it said Near_Hunt, which means that that music plays when the neighbor is near and he is in hunt mode, unless you distracted him with the tv, you better istantly hide or run, as the neighbor is faster than idle in hunt mode
I never really took any of the audio names from the files I typed them in on the spot, never realized someone would go out of their way to prove me wrong like that😅
Woah, you answered my comment after a bit, a lot of the youtubers never answer my comment, even if they are in super recent videos, but you still answerd, congrats
@@inyoja It's ok, rarely do people extract pak files(where most stuff is kept), Tough, an earlier version actually used it when he was very near, talking about an earlier version of the pre alpha, it's different and used for when he is very closed i guess:ua-cam.com/video/KNOwAHyxPfk/v-deo.html
Imagine having to play Act 2, but the neighbor is faster than you, and throwing bear traps at you That's the game I want, I want a game with AI that's unforgivingly fun, not a minor inconvenience
Yeah, and in a way that actually emphasizes stealth too. Him laying traps, cameras and boarding up windows the more often you get caught, making things even harder to you, forcing you to become more clever. That's way more interesting than a cryptic 90's puzzle treasure hunt while playing tag with the Neighbor. Heck, by the point the final game is, I'd say nextbot mods are scarier, cus at least you know that nothing can stop those things and you have no way to defend yourself, leaving you always at the disadvantage.
I feel like the player is a little too overpowered when it comes to what you can do. You can toss pretty much any item you get a hold of at the Neighbor to stun him, you can run faster than him with unlimited stamina, and all of that stuff makes you rather want to outrun the Neighbor instead of outsmarting him with stealth or maybe even a trap or two.
Exactly, I had a friend who was trying to beat Act 3 and I just gave him the classic cheese strat: Break window, Superthrow and run. Like what happened to strategy and stealth? Poor Neighbor always getting abused
Ok one thing I enjoyed in pre was the giant neighbor cause that scared the shi out of me even tho he appears in final act it didn't realy scare me as when u load u can see him instantly but as pre he's hiding to side so when u look out window he quickly shows up witch is scary
I mean it's alright, I can see how he could spook someone, I always thought he was just kinda goofy tho. It's like, they wanted to emphasize how scared you are of the Neighbor, so how did they convey that? Oh yeah, they made him 10 meters tall 😅
Yes old ones looked scary but I just like the artstyle of full release you know. For scaryness I love old pre alphas. But the thing is I am in love with this weird artstyle. Like the doors , object and everything looks cool. Pre alpha was scary and looked realistic. So I love that. But this game graphics are good too and since it has its own graphics I like it. Like act 3 house looks super cool. The trees. It doesn't feel scary but I enjoy seeing the view of the place and objects
I honestly can't disagree with what you're saying, Hello Neighbor is a really weird, glitchy, and funky game so the full release art style fits well. I'd say they found a great middle-ground for the art style in HN 2. The sneak peek we got for the update looks great as well for some reason I enjoyed searching/sneaking through an amazing look environment.
@@inyoja cool. I can't find you playing the alpha of hello neighbour 2. Where is It.? Have you played the alphas? Like alpha 1 and 1.5? If no play it and if yes where is it?
@@supersaiyangoku7547 I was considering making a few videos on HN 2, but I couldn't find a way to make it interesting/enjoyable. Yet I think I have an idea so possibly expect something on HN 2 soon.
@@inyoja yep. Dude you don't need to be like oh I can't make it interesting . Your other videos or fun. Same. Just make commentary. If you want some edits. You can make some jokes. Or play it normally. But thanks for replying 😀
0:00 definitely not the actual game. Probably one of the mods. Btw I got inspo about how alpha has a bunch of doorways and its more open and exposed and stuff for my mod which basically has the alpha 1 house, just better.
play hello neighbor alternate reality it's good you can have the art style of prototype-alpha 1 and actually the game completes the houses and the game has got a overhaul update if the neighbor catches you , you will lose all of your items and you would be like kicked out of the game idk but there is some glitches but remember hello neighbor alternate reality isn't completed so yeah and it's a fan made project which is unprofittable! meaning there is no problem
*Dynamic Pixels and TinyBuild sweating their ass off to make a good game* The HN Community: What the fuck is this piece of shit lmaoo delete this game Also, the Pre-Alpha is insanely easy to beat, take a clock with you, go to the back of the house, take the crowbar, set the clock and put it in the back garden, alarm goes off, Neighbor comes out, you go in, take the key, open the lock, break the planks, type the password in.
that’s cause it’s a pre alpha, it’s only easy due to it being the first playable public version of the game, if they stuck with the same build of the pre alpha, they could’ve made it harder the more updates they added, which could’ve of been cool
@@LanaScott They put a lot of effort into the full game ai. It is probably the most aware of it's surroundings of all of them, because it notices literally everything that gets moved within the house.
yeah because it's a pre alpha, and it's also easy because you already know what to do, act 1 is also easy when you know what to do but when you first play pre alpha you don't know the code or where items are and neither in the rest of the alphas.
As a horror game full release graphics doesn't match. But as artstyle it looks unique. Pre alpha looks a lot like those realistic scary game like which you find in mobile games, the graphic honestly sucks in pre alpha. You can compare those graphic too hello neighbour 2 graphics.
I have seen people bring up good points about what you're saying and I think I've realized is it depends when you become a fan of HN, I find that people who were fans towards the beginning of the alphas disliked the newer art (but not everyone) and then ones that became fans later liked the art style currently. So I personally try to understand both sides but talking about making rooms, I see what you mean, I don't really think you can be very creative with the art style. (Also now that you said it the art style does kinda look like a mobile game🤣.
hi, do you have discord or something like that? im making a hello neighbor related project, and since you have a plenty point of view and information about why old versions were good, i want some feedback on it.
I have a discord server for my friends developing projects, but it might as well be the discord server for this channel here's the link:discord.gg/BrFsK7t9eJ Note that my friends can be a bit you know odd lol
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Yes, I do mention this, but this isn't hate, HN 2 seems to be going in a good direction right now. All I hope is that its an actual horror game😅
This didn't age well now that the Beta released. It's almost like the A.I downgrading has HAPPENED BEFORE?!
@@TheHelloNeighborShow Meanwhile the demo:
@@spikyhorse1185 The demo's A.I. is decent. He doesn't go into hunt mode like in the original game but I guess that isn't the point. Idk just doesn't seem realistic that he would know I'm in his house and not try and find me. He can't see me in certain parts of the house, and when you step out onto the front porch he just stares at you. This is the problem with the new games. There is NO level of threat involved when the Neighbor tries to get you. It used to be that he would run at you non-stop to catch you, and you would wake up hours later, IN YOUR HOUSE, with all of your items looted off you. It was creepy knowing he had to be in your house too. Now he just throws you outside and you can just run back into his house in 3 seconds. The A.I. is better, but isn't great and definitely isn't the level of A.I. we were promised when Inyoja (SushiSpam) made that comment. TBF it's only a demo but then again that was only a Beta and we're only mere months away from the full game releasing. Not trying to sound so harsh but I'm just angry that this game is going downhill.
@@TheHelloNeighborShow yeah, kinda sucks how the game doesn't punish you when you get caught
@@spikyhorse1185 i wish they kept the throwing mechanic like in HN2 Alpha 1/1.5
My only gripe with Hello Neighbor is that the creators broke a lot of fan’s promises to make it a true horror game. They just changed the designs because they just wanted theories. Other than that, I like most of the Hello Neighbor games.
I can't tell if this was because of bad leadership or they just didn't understand what they were doing was going in the wrong direction. But yeah the games do be fun
@@inyoja my biggest problem that they removed pre Alpha chase music ( it only appear at Act 1 ending)
That music made game way more scary in pre Alpha
Let's be honest the pre alpha's looked the best and the scariest
Agreed, full release could have been a much better game with the pre-alpha art style
and chase music swaps and ai
old pre alpha or alpha 1 house with the nearby sounds and old ambience and the neighbors fast speed
The only bad thing about pre alpha is that you can’t go upstairs
prototype is scariest
same thing happened in hn2 pre alpha and alpha versions scariest but the full game 🤮🤮
i remember the first time i seen pre alpha, terrifying to me, the art, ambience, how is house was huge but somewhat realistic, but just doesnt feel right, once alpha 2 came out, that was entirely lost
Exactly! I remember watching people play Alpha 2, and their reactions or lack of to the art style change
I'm surprised the full release is even listed as stealth horror, it's more puzzle now, not even scary nor really possible to be stealthy at most times.
short answer: pre alpha and alpha 1 are just better
I like the alphas a lot. I started playing them in my brothers computer and found them on steam. Just look up Hello Neighbor Alpha 1 or Pre Alpha. Those alphas and other alphas they are scary. I dont play the final release since I got bored and got all the trophies on the ps4. At least the Alphas are scary because in alpha 1, it's like sneaking in without him seeing you, but you dint know where he is.
ahh finally someone realize this thing
It went from cartoony horror Tim Burton, to goofy ahh colors melted together
alpha is better because they tried to make it good
The artstyle of full release looks cool . And look at hello neighbour 2. It's graphics and quality is insane. I love the environment in it.
I think its because TinyBuild wanted to make it look more cartoony, even tho im kinda with you
pre alpha was really good, but the prototype? terrifying 😭
Of course it was. The Neighbor feels so real in it because he was literally told what to do. That build was scripted, but Pre Alpha was a real build
i really agree
That is because full version release before pre-alpha then they will release 4 alphas and 3 betas wich is a total
Someone has to remake the full game with stealth, ambience( Like when the neighbor is close ) or basically taking what the pre alpha and alpha one and applying that.
Now of course it’s probably way to big, but I still have hope that someone will make a serious full release
I think alpha 1 was noice i feel like it’s pre alpha but with a bigger house and puzzles
6:10 isn’t very close
its just when you are near neighbor during hunt mode
2:48
Your points make so much sense. But the only reason I like full release is since its artstyle really looks and fits it. Like the view in act 3 from top. Trees. In books also same kind of art followed. The thing is full release art looks cool, weird. So I like it. But pre alpha was so realistic and scary. It was best as a horror game. But full release is good as artstyle.
full game is a puzzle platformer and pre alpha is a stealth horror
Yeah, it's a fun art style, and I'm pretty sure that, with the right atmosphere, it could look downright twisted. Imagine being in one a these rooms, in the dark, only some soft red light from outside coming in, and you find yourself surrounded in portraits of eyes, peeking down at you from the wall. I don't mind the art style one bit...
...I just wish the cupboards weren't so goddamn clumsy. Like, those ones with the four drawers. These drawers are so uneven and so narrow, they just feel janky every time I see someone try to open them.
Very close isn't correct, i checked the game files and it said Near_Hunt, which means that that music plays when the neighbor is near and he is in hunt mode, unless you distracted him with the tv, you better istantly hide or run, as the neighbor is faster than idle in hunt mode
I never really took any of the audio names from the files I typed them in on the spot, never realized someone would go out of their way to prove me wrong like that😅
Woah, you answered my comment after a bit, a lot of the youtubers never answer my comment, even if they are in super recent videos, but you still answerd, congrats
@@inyoja It's ok, rarely do people extract pak files(where most stuff is kept), Tough, an earlier version actually used it when he was very near, talking about an earlier version of the pre alpha, it's different and used for when he is very closed i guess:ua-cam.com/video/KNOwAHyxPfk/v-deo.html
@@filo2205 My only guess is that they get a lot of comments, but I hope I can still answer most comments in the future.
I actually thought it played when he was just very close, I didn’t know this til now
Imagine having to play Act 2, but the neighbor is faster than you, and throwing bear traps at you
That's the game I want, I want a game with AI that's unforgivingly fun, not a minor inconvenience
Yeah, and in a way that actually emphasizes stealth too. Him laying traps, cameras and boarding up windows the more often you get caught, making things even harder to you, forcing you to become more clever. That's way more interesting than a cryptic 90's puzzle treasure hunt while playing tag with the Neighbor. Heck, by the point the final game is, I'd say nextbot mods are scarier, cus at least you know that nothing can stop those things and you have no way to defend yourself, leaving you always at the disadvantage.
I feel like the player is a little too overpowered when it comes to what you can do. You can toss pretty much any item you get a hold of at the Neighbor to stun him, you can run faster than him with unlimited stamina, and all of that stuff makes you rather want to outrun the Neighbor instead of outsmarting him with stealth or maybe even a trap or two.
Exactly, I had a friend who was trying to beat Act 3 and I just gave him the classic cheese strat: Break window, Superthrow and run. Like what happened to strategy and stealth? Poor Neighbor always getting abused
@@inyoja Theo Peterson skipped leg day and now he can't catch up with Nicky at all 😞
Ok one thing I enjoyed in pre was the giant neighbor cause that scared the shi out of me even tho he appears in final act it didn't realy scare me as when u load u can see him instantly but as pre he's hiding to side so when u look out window he quickly shows up witch is scary
I mean it's alright, I can see how he could spook someone, I always thought he was just kinda goofy tho. It's like, they wanted to emphasize how scared you are of the Neighbor, so how did they convey that? Oh yeah, they made him 10 meters tall 😅
Yes old ones looked scary but I just like the artstyle of full release you know. For scaryness I love old pre alphas. But the thing is I am in love with this weird artstyle. Like the doors , object and everything looks cool. Pre alpha was scary and looked realistic. So I love that. But this game graphics are good too and since it has its own graphics I like it. Like act 3 house looks super cool. The trees. It doesn't feel scary but I enjoy seeing the view of the place and objects
I honestly can't disagree with what you're saying, Hello Neighbor is a really weird, glitchy, and funky game so the full release art style fits well. I'd say they found a great middle-ground for the art style in HN 2. The sneak peek we got for the update looks great as well for some reason I enjoyed searching/sneaking through an amazing look environment.
@@inyoja cool. I can't find you playing the alpha of hello neighbour 2. Where is It.? Have you played the alphas? Like alpha 1 and 1.5? If no play it and if yes where is it?
@@supersaiyangoku7547 I was considering making a few videos on HN 2, but I couldn't find a way to make it interesting/enjoyable. Yet I think I have an idea so possibly expect something on HN 2 soon.
@@inyoja yep. Dude you don't need to be like oh I can't make it interesting . Your other videos or fun. Same. Just make commentary. If you want some edits. You can make some jokes. Or play it normally. But thanks for replying 😀
0:00 definitely not the actual game. Probably one of the mods. Btw I got inspo about how alpha has a bunch of doorways and its more open and exposed and stuff for my mod which basically has the alpha 1 house, just better.
Alpha is better because its alpha, not beta, beta males are worser then Alpha males so APLHA was better
...that's the dumbest thing I've ever read, and yet I'm still so glad for not seeing a single "sigma" mention in sight.
2:08 not everything is inside the house there is a crowbar outside
2:48 you can distract him very easily and glitch him out with a tv
Ok I guess I meant MOST stuff is inside but ye
play hello neighbor alternate reality it's good you can have the art style of prototype-alpha 1 and actually the game completes the houses and the game has got a overhaul update if the neighbor catches you , you will lose all of your items and you would be like kicked out of the game idk but there is some glitches but remember hello neighbor alternate reality isn't completed so yeah and it's a fan made project which is unprofittable! meaning there is no problem
*Dynamic Pixels and TinyBuild sweating their ass off to make a good game*
The HN Community: What the fuck is this piece of shit lmaoo delete this game
Also, the Pre-Alpha is insanely easy to beat, take a clock with you, go to the back of the house, take the crowbar, set the clock and put it in the back garden, alarm goes off, Neighbor comes out, you go in, take the key, open the lock, break the planks, type the password in.
that’s cause it’s a pre alpha, it’s only easy due to it being the first playable public version of the game, if they stuck with the same build of the pre alpha, they could’ve made it harder the more updates they added, which could’ve of been cool
They didn’t care about making a good game for the full release, they only cared about a profit
@@LanaScott They put a lot of effort into the full game ai. It is probably the most aware of it's surroundings of all of them, because it notices literally everything that gets moved within the house.
yeah because it's a pre alpha, and it's also easy because you already know what to do, act 1 is also easy when you know what to do but when you first play pre alpha you don't know the code or where items are and neither in the rest of the alphas.
As a horror game full release graphics doesn't match. But as artstyle it looks unique. Pre alpha looks a lot like those realistic scary game like which you find in mobile games, the graphic honestly sucks in pre alpha. You can compare those graphic too hello neighbour 2 graphics.
286th like!👍
Both suck ass but one sucks just slightly more (I'll give you a hint, it's the one people overhype)
I have seen people bring up good points about what you're saying and I think I've realized is it depends when you become a fan of HN, I find that people who were fans towards the beginning of the alphas disliked the newer art (but not everyone) and then ones that became fans later liked the art style currently. So I personally try to understand both sides but talking about making rooms, I see what you mean, I don't really think you can be very creative with the art style. (Also now that you said it the art style does kinda look like a mobile game🤣.
@@inyoja it doesnt help that the entire style is copied from google images
@@CKVanilla Honestly I had no idea. I guess that explains how they made the ai decent for a free game (at the time it was free)
@@CKVanilla what does that ever mean
@@Megajaybreaker4 do you want me to draw you a diagram
hi, do you have discord or something like that? im making a hello neighbor related project, and since you have a plenty point of view and information about why old versions were good, i want some feedback on it.
I have a discord server for my friends developing projects, but it might as well be the discord server for this channel here's the link:discord.gg/BrFsK7t9eJ
Note that my friends can be a bit you know odd lol