Reggie Fils-Aimé The Beetles also did a lot of LSD. I mean look at the song and cartoon of “Yellow Submarine”. Oh and the lyrics that go “Lucy in the sky with diamonds.” Clearly about tripping on LSD haha. I’ve taken acid and I know exactly what they’re talking about.
Artists in general are attracted to drugs most artists are more emotional people emotional people more often feel attracted to these things its just how that works and there is nothing bad about it everybody makes choices fuck its your own body as long as you dont hurt anyone else with it i dont see the problem
That was the whole point of the opening piece. The lyrics match what was said about how the "younger" generation was feeling. As the reporter says about listening to the words, you can clearly hear Kurt's words. The news item itself was trash though.
This is funny because the young generation back then had old people who hated their music but now that “new generation” are parents now and hate the younger generation’s music ight
John Do people really act like the majority of musicians didn’t do drugs, I mean Johnny cash, W.A.S.P., RATT, Judas Priest just to name a few groups. More recently names like Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Snoop dogg. They’re all doing drugs because the type of people likely to do music industry are also the type of people to smoke crack or weed or take dopamine and shit.
Mike Jones regardless of ur political standing this situations is a bit creepy. This is like me dating my grade 9 math teacher. Why would he even be attracted to me in the first place
Man the reason we love Kurt is because he didn't sing about love and happiness all the time. He sang about how he was feeling at the time, and how the world had hurt him. It was raw and real, and while I love the Beatles, I love Nirvana so much more.
I think the reason Nirvanas music was so good was even when singing about love and things that should be happy he did it with the reality that some of the happiest things are painful and especially for people who suffer from mental illness the feeling of being numb when you shouldn’t be really hits! He definitely was one of the greatest
And the Beatles had heavier darker songs too (especially on the White Album), these boomers probably became Reagan conservatives by the 80s and only chose to remember their boy band side
@@sathira_anuk5179 I'm thinking these people only listened to the "Can't buy me love" early poppy Beatles as opposed to the psychedelic, more rockish white album stuff. Shit, "Happiness is a warm gun" is almost grunge-like, especially the guitar sound
To every boomer who didn’t get it, just remember what your parents said about the Beatles. No generation seems to get the music of the next. You can grow old without being old.
And yet here we are. And i can't connect with music of my time. Music from back then is what i connect with. Music today makes me want to turn the radio off. There is literally no artist that have popped up over the last 20 or so years that have anything relatable at heart. Just people singing, touring and trying not to let the fame get to their head. Now we've lost all the good ol boys. But i'm thankfull for what they left us. May they all Rest in Peace and their work inspire billions of people to come.
What are you talking about. The Beatles and Stones are all in the Silent Generation. The Boomer generation has a huge “shoulder” crossover from Silent Generation to Gen X. I’m young “tail ender”boomer. RHCP are boomers like me..! I grew up listening to The Who, The Doors, zeppelin, meh Beatles some, but they were all “before me.” My core age music would be from Steve Miller, Allman Bros, Lynard, AC/DC, The Cars, Prince, Aerosmith etc…. But I also dig/dug Soundgarden, PJ, the grunge stuff, some synthpop, RunDMC( not Spice Girls or Eminem😊 tho). The Boomer generation, at least the trailing ones like myself probably have the largest appreciation for music across the generations than any generation ever!!! From my parents Big Band Glen Miller, Nat King Cole or Henry Mancini; to No Doubt, Killers, OAR, Dave, Blues Traveler, Black Crows ; to MIA, Pixies, Cortney Barnett, Cage the Elephant, Death Cab for Cuties.. Kurt Vile, Santigold! ❤️; even some EDM; techno not dub. We get your music because it is ours too.
In the words of George Carlin, the Baby Boomers were given everything and took it all: the sex, the drugs, and the Rock 'N Roll. They ended up turning self-righteous and told younger generations to abstain from sex, say no to drugs, and sold the rock n roll to tv commercials for pasta machines and stairmasters. They literally went from do your own thing to just say no.
@@cgates2 "it's kinda hard to understand but I-" that one pissed me off. Like come on, it sounded like he was about to say he actually enjoys the music or something
How hypocritical of people to say they didn't understand why young people cared so much. That's like a younger generation asking why people cared when Elvis died.
Just no. Jesus is and will always be the most influential and famous historical figure of all time, hippie singers will come and go. And you've got the original comment Fucked up to be some sort of musical comparison, I was talking about the older gen being hypocrites in the vid.
Not just older, he still have a huge impact on alternative teens and kids. Although a fair majority of people would rather listen to what someone like Doja cat or Billie Eilish has to say I think kurt has a legacy that no matter what generation it will continue to thrive and his lyrics will help people always.
BabyGroover13 I love going back and listening to Kurt over the new age shit Billie eillish is overated I would much rather listen to the last mtv unplugged concert with Kurt in it
Boomers were in their late 30’s/early 40’s in this time period, stop using boomer to describe an old person Boomers grew up in the Cold War post WW2, the old people in this video grew up before WW2 and probably participated in it
Lots of kids on here saying they wished they were born in the 90's. Do the math, Kurt died in 1994..you would have been ,at the most, 4 years old at the time of his death. That means you ...Nevermind.
Emmerson Bigguns I was 2 going on 3 when he died, so I dont remember any of this. I always knew of how famous he was, and living 2 1/2 hours away from where he grew up, it was hard to avoid it. [I actually just visited his childhood home.] Kids dont need to be born in the 90s to enjoy Nirvana, just because you dont remember, or were even alive when he died. Just listen to his music and shut up. Haha.
@@ajh2027 You have to understand that, not everybody understand what meant Cobain's death, so they compare it with John Lennon, which was the spokeman for the older generation. It's a NEWS channel, and they have to adapt it so everyone keeps watching them. Plus, at that time there wasn't that much information about his death so they didn't had too much to talk and probably this wasn't the only thing they talked about him
Why does it matter who liked him and who didn’t. A young man died in a sad way. That’s awful period. What kind of sick person questions on how much grief is necessary.
Elvis: *dies from an overdose* Boomers: "He was so great!" Kurt Cobain: *commits suicide due to depression* Boomers: "It was all the drugs he was taking!"
It wasn't necessarily an overdose in the traditional sense. Elvis was on a very diverse split of uppers and downers, mixing several types of stimulants which caused his heart to enlarge. That, plus the weight he had put on just because too much of a workload on his heart. I'm sure he was on something when he died but it was more from the years of abuse than a single dose.
John was one of Kurt’s idols, he didn’t like to be put above his idols. John was a peace activist, though he did drugs as well. You can’t really compare them other than they are both influential musicians for different generations. They did different genres, reached their peak at different times. Both Kurt’s death and John’s deaths were very tragic. I hope they are at peace now. ❤
If you think Lennon’s message was of ‘peace, love and hope’ then you didn’t listen to Lennon at all. If you think Cobain’s message was of ‘anger and despair’ then you didn’t listen to Nirvana at all.
@@beansontoast6622 A lot of people exaggerate the "he beat his wife" shtick. It only happened once when he was drunk, that's not an excuse but it's not as bad as beating her regularly as some people make it seem. Also do you know how we know he did it? Because he admitted to it himself as he wanted to be a better father and husband, he took full responsibility and wanted to be better. Don't think that makes him a hypocrite
I really hate when people say that this person is the next John Lennon or Freddie Mercury or MJ or anyone else who had a massive impact on our current culture. Everyone one has a different effect on music. Lennon and Cobain both changed music, but not in the same way
I totally agree with you. Just because someone takes inspiration and does anything awesome doesn't mean they are the same person. Kurt Cobain is not next John Lennon but he's the only Kurt Cobain.
I agree, although they did have a lot of similarities. They both stood for peace & equality (despite the fact Lennon wasn’t the kindest of people). They were both in relationships with women that were hated by many (Lennon with Yoko & Kurt with Courtney). They were both frontmen of the most popular band of their generation (some might say Lennon wasn’t a frontman, but he definitely acted like it). They both had messages they tried to send through their music. You’re right that they shouldn’t be compared, but they did share a lot of similarities & Kurt was a massive Beatles (& especially Lennon) fan
I mean, it’s a very normal thing to do. Not nowadays because Kurt became an cultural icon on his own terms but every new artists is going to be compared to an older one.
Antony Braus they legit said they couldnt see the value of his music not because it was bad but because it was a new wave of music that they had not heard and didn’t know how to feel about... like wtf you want them to say lmao... y’all just soft low key
This makes me so sad. I never knew that everyone portrayed him as some devil back then. If you’ve watched interviews with Kurt you can see he was quite the opposite. He was kind and genuine, he was an advocate for lgbt rights too.
Grunge rock was generally considered a "silly gen X young people thing" in the 90s, and Kurt Cobain was the apotheosis of it, so he got no respect from older people then. Then he died, and we were all bereft, even if his music wasn't our style. I was more into alternative at the time, but I remember walking into my university bar the day he died and hearing the news. I was shocked and distressed.
@@russetmantle1 it's so crazy how these old people have no empathy for the dude and then they go to blame it on being born before the 70s or something lmaoo
Just some added context, this happened in the cooldown period of the satanic panic situation… so if an artist’s genre wasn’t classic rock and roll, country, pop, new wave… it was subjected to heavy scrutiny/especially by parental christian types.
He also was a very shy introvert, who probably worried too much about his reputation, like many introverts do. I'm sure the unfair criticism and demonization from the boomers and older generations contributed significantly to his struggle with popularity and subsequent death.
@@YOTSUBA_desu Depression doesn't equal sadness. Depression is a mental disorder caused by numerous factors in the brain. Anyone can have it regardless of wealth or fame.
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There is no place for empathy when it comes to people who grieve for a celebrity they never met. A family member would be another story.
yarpen26 doesn’t matter if they knew him or not. no one in the video “knew” kurt. it’s a sad news report over another artist dead. their responses lacked empathy whereas the others didn’t & that’s it
angelintodemonseed it was a lack of empathy lol rewatch the vid. doesn’t matter if they understood or not. not everyone has to understand something to feel bad over a life gone
A lot of people exaggerate the "he beat his wife" shtick. It only happened once when he was drunk, that's not an excuse but it's not as bad as beating her regularly as some people make it seem. Also do you know how we know he did it? Because he admitted to it himself as he wanted to be a better father and husband, he took full responsibility and wanted to be better.
@@haywoodjblome4768 what the fuck is wrong with you? 'Just once'? Christ, grow a backbone. It doesn't matter what an abuser says or promises after they beat you, nothing they say will ever make up for their violent choice.
To be honest, this report was much more professional than I thought it would be. If todays news reported about something that wasn't sitting right with their values and agenda, they'd exaggerate and show angry extremists.
1:43 They really took the time to throw shade... At a homeless man. He wasn't even talking down but trying to understand why it happened! Man, whomever narrated this should have been fired
Honestly he it was just a misunderstanding as the man is literally poor and always chasing the money where kurt had "everything" a poor man could wish for. Both different struggles :/ american really needs to work on our homeless and the mentally ill. I cannot till my generation has full control and just this around.
I honestly can’t help but be mad at him. “I’m disappointed in him.” I know that man has probably had a rough life. Worse than most of us obviously. But even uttering that kind of statement about a mentally ill person who committed suicide is beyond fucked up. Like... I’m sorry that his pain led to killing himself, sorry that “disappointed” you. All the hardships in the world and not a goddamn lick of wisdom was earned on his fucking forehead. (It’s also really late and that stuff just strikes a nerve with me, I hope he’s happier now and stuff, it’s not his fault he doesn’t understand, now I’m ranting. Sorry)
It's just like boomers to not feel a damn thing when someone influential to a lot of people commits suicide, save for "He did drugs, what an awful guy"
it’s everyone’s parents.. it would be awkward if parents were like oh yeah i fucking love it to our music to be different from them and develop our own tastes outside of theirs..
@@emmymoon8718 Not completely true. This was only back in 94 a lot of the kids in the videos are around 30ish rn and all the people are Gen x which are the main generation that listened to music like this and atill do. Prime example in my family os my father and my sister which fall into those 2 catagories. The adults in that video however are either baby boomers (boomers) and the generation that gave birth to baby boomers. Albeit the tine difference from gen x and later baby boomers is very small a lot pf their outlooks and likes are quote different overall. Ie my father is pretty much nothing like people that are a few years older. Like he has almost night in common with someone who was in highschool when he was in later elementary even though atbthis point they are both 50+
@@AnalyticalMenace Bruh I'm sick and tired of people like you always bringing this up whenever John Lennon is raised in a conversation. He beat his to-be wife ONCE and he had admitted his mistakes on multiple occasions. He tried to change his ways and was slowly changing into a better person when his life was cut short. Was he a perfect human being? No. He was just a normal guy, who made mistakes in his life that he later owned up to.
Why should I? Outside their hits the songs are really bland, all using the same structure and even chord progression. Kurt wasn't exactly a diverse singer either
That was actually really profound what he said, he was totally right. There are many bands where you can lose a major member and still go on, even a band like Van Halen did it. That was impossible for Nirvana.
Adorable and almost 100% wrong, yeah kurt wrote some of the music but didn't write the drum lines and didnt write the bass lines. The drum lines especially because tons of the reason why nirvana was so successful was because of Daves aggressive playing and also smart and melodic way of being able to play with whatever was given to him. This is evident in the band only blowing up after Dave joining. And don't forget Dave or Krist's personality which was probably what made people love the band so much. Imagine if instead of getting Dave we got Chad who had awful timing and also wasn't as aggressive which seems impossible because Bleach is much more aggressive than the 2 albums Dave played on. If it weren't for Dave or Krist kurt probably would've been a broke junkie who peaked at 22. I mean he was always a junkie who shot up heroine 24/7 but he was rich. I don't understand why people constantly idolize this random guy who would take drugs in front of his newborn daughter.
@@calebduarte5255 it's "literally" a song John wrote about a picture julian drew in school. "Literally". A make believe world from a grade school kids imagination. Ringo even said "any time they tried to make music under the influence of anything, it sounded like shit and we couldn't use it " Doesn't matter though, because we all know that nirvana ripped off killing joke.
Every generation has it's share of assholes who will never "get it". Unfortunately, they seem to be the ones who gain the most money and power, while the rest of us just sigh and sing a song or two about it.
So you see old people hating on the new generation back in the 90s and think “wow such assholes I would never do that.” And then proceed to do the exact same thing
+Chris “Cristobal” Smith Haha good observation. Yes I have had many times I've wanted to go on a rage fueled violence fest on people in my school who embrace this shitty pop culture when I was still in high school. Luckily I don't have to be around those people anymore because I can choose not to
+austin MR.coueslan@hotmail.com man you're lucky to be out of high school... I'm in high school now and i HATE it. i have to deal with mindless idiots who love the biggest douche on the radio just cause he's popular, and have no idea who fuckin Led Zeppelin are. it drives me absolutely insane.
@@LordVader1094 trying to get a job, find food without begging, get a place to sleep at night, deal with possible mental issues that were ignored by their closest friends and family, try to overcome addiction with or without help, not get mugged or killed or raped, evade people that might have it out for them, deal with people looking down on them and assuming the worst when sometimes life just punishes good people anyway. Need I list more or is that good enough for you?
@@LordVader1094 You could literally be a homeless office worker, or pretty much any other profession. That said, I don't think you need to add what the homeless dude does for a living in your interview about Kurt Cobain's death, but then again, I'm not a 90's reporter, am I?
There was never a singer that could sing with anger and hurt like kurt cobain. Thats why his voice struck people. He could sing from deep down, with the anger and hurt he felt throughout his life. He could sing it such a beautiful way, and this is how he connected with young people back then. He tapped into those feelings they all had, ie young people, whom all have doubts at that age. I also loved the fact he hated most of the people whom loved his band, just because of there success. Those fake people, he did not want following his band. Thats why in inutero, he changed into very weird music, to put them off. Hollywood is a cesspool, and kurt was worth more dead than alive, as he was totally sick of it. Kurt being a misanthrope, i think many of his real fans can relate to that.
andyhello23 errrr not like but certainly amazingly well in their own, Trent Reznor is one musician who can do it through his voice and even in just his instrumentals. Kurt was just more well known, given grunge was part of the pop movement of the nineties giving him what he called fake fans who didn't understand his music how he wanted to be.
"...very weird music, to put them off." that's complete Bullshit. In Utero was exactly what he wanted to and it represents there whole Sound like nothing before. it was much more Nirvana, than Nevermind was.
andyhello23 I'd like to challenge that Layne Staley was 100 times a greater singer and really made you feel his pain with his voice much better than Kurt ever did.
There are no words in the English language to describe how I felt when he died. Empty, numb are the closest. I was 15. I have not listened to any Nirvana since 94, if they came on the radio I'd turn it off. It deeply affected me. Just last week at the age of 37 I put Bleach on then Nevermind and In Utereo then started watching videos. It took me basically 22 years to come to terms with it. And you know what after all this time when I watch interviews or watch live shows Kurt holds up as being a true hero of mine.
I hear you, Kurt was a real artist and he left some great work in this world for all of us. He was a very troubled soul with bipolar disorder, addiction and an effed up childhood. It is amazing how much art he created in a short time. I wish he found help because he was in a position to speak out on how badly humans treat each other. But sadly that is how addiction plays out for many. He is missed by many.
Nadeem g if you don't understand you don't understand. That's okay. I didn't give a shit when Michael Jackson died cause I had no interest in him. But you can go on any of his videos and see comments similar to mine. I don't reply cause I don't understand.
I had a music assignment in 9th grade lit where you read the lyrics to a song and Tom Hutchinson read Come As You Are and our English teacher just belittled him, made fun of him, made fun of the music, half way though I raised my hand and said “I love this song and I love Nirvana, too” and a couple other people gave a “yeah! Me too!” Because she was really going in on Tom. How two generations reacted two one voice.
You know what I have noticed? That older generations never like music from the next one or the one after and that has to do with what you grow up listening to. People from the 60's that grew up on the Beatles and Led Zepplin thought this new music "Nirvana" was bad and couldnt enjoy and understand why young people like it so much. Like now, people that grew up on N.W.A biggie smalls tupac etc HATE the rap from now and dont enjoy and understand why young people like it so much. One day when us younger people are old and some new shit is popping we're going to think what the fuck is that. Its always been like that and always will be. What you grow up listening to will influence the way you view music for the rest of your life. Just my 2 cents.
Its all opinion based. Youre right though, Hades. I grew up listening to a little bit of everything so I hope I can understand the new music that will be released when I'm old lol
‘I’ll mourn for a kid, but won’t cry for a king’ is a lyric I was reminded of when they were interviewing the homeless man. The song it’s from, Neon Gravestones, deals with the topic of celebrity suicide, of how two people going through the exact same mental struggles can be treated so differently just based on their wealth and status. ‘How could he go if he’s got everything?’ Just because someone Might have fame and money doesn’t automatically make them immune to mental illness Stay alive my friends
Just because one man's suffering seems much worse, doesn't make another man's suffering hurt any less! And imagine if it did: wouldn't that be kind of sadistic or sociopathic anyway? Like: _"Welp, my wife left me, which would make sad, but this guy over there doesn't have a roof over his head and that makes me happy!"_ 😂
Whenever depression hits me and I want to just cry and scream but I cannot... I listen to Kurt cobain (nirvana)'s music. It helps me so much and I feel like im screaming at the top of my lungs. I wish I knew him before his death. I love him so much
@@groowanderer thats because he loved the guy and understood his talent. Grohl didn't become great until after Cobain.. and even that took a few years.. you want to see pain and anger? Watch when Nirvana was inducted in the Rock n Roll HoF.. when he was forced to let the woman who basically drove his best friend nuts, accept Cobains legacy. You can tell it took every ounce of control to not murder her on the stage.
joaquin lios #theofficebatman shitty pop tracks were definitely around his time, hell he grew up in the 70s and 80s they were filled with cheesy music. There is plenty of powerful pieces of music coming out nowadays just they don't tend to be on the top 40s because like pretty much always upbeat pop music is always a better overall seller because a larger amount of people can all enjoy it.
Yeah for sure, there are great bands out there and besides, being in the top 40's now is kind of overrated. I do agree with you. Idk if he would be making music or doing his art.
Had he lived, maybe, just maybe, the scene could be different today. Call me naive, but I believe that certain people can make an entire solar system of other artists, media people, etc gravitate around them, thus influencing and shaping a scene that wouldn't exist otherwise. At least that's how I felt about Kurt at the time. Others like him are obviously Lennon, and definately Jimi Hendrix. But those were different times too, I guess.
25 years later, Cobain is considered a legend in the music industry, an innovator I a new genre that will be synonymous 1990s music scene and so much more in the lyrics and emotion behind them.
1:22 the old dude was cut off before he was going to say something nice. They also cut off what made the interviewer ask "So, you understand his music" to make it look like the guy was just riffing on Nirvana.
What older generations thought back then- The Beatles: peace and love Nirvana: anger and sadness What they really mean- The Beatles: drugs Nirvana: drugs
I can understand why the homeless man was angry about Kurts suicide.I felt that way when Chester Bennington from linkin park took his own life but it’s important to look at the big picture and understand why they decided to leave this world.
I absolutely love John Lennon as much as the next guy, but the interesting thing is, while each singer promoted their respective and differing messages, Cobain actually behaviorally stuck to most of what he was talking about while Lennon, behind the scenes, would often be rage-filled, violent, abusive (verbally or otherwise), and promiscuous, which I believe are tenants of the antithesis of his general message. I do think John Lennon and Paul McCartney were the two greatest musicians to ever live and my respect for them is through the roof, but I just want to submit that the message in the lyrics isn't everything and I actually think Kurt and John were a lot more similar in many ways than the generational gap respective fans would have us believe. P.S., Lennon didn't totally go against what he was saying as most of his behaviors and attitude were to fight for peace and love.... don't get me wrong.
Inky Hip you're talking about his solo career while putting together, and if you have some proofs, that John was kinda violent. In the 60's there's the girlfriend that he had to marry cuz she was pregnant, while Beatles was becoming popular asf. they really were just boys in that time, and i think that Yoko was indeed his true love, she saved him from his angry personality or whatever, i think that he tought he would simply been lying if he said that he loved Cynthia, there was so much going on at the same time, plus he had an stressfull lifestyle, people just always took too serious his humour.
TBH Lennon was a hot headed rebellious teen growing up and was all about rock and roll until his managers told them that pop was the new thing, which Lennon didn't care for but still went along with it.
Inky Hip I totally get you. I love this comment because it is very true. Just as you, I have so much respect for Paul and John. Then again, The Beatles are my favorite band. But I agree when you said that John could be violent, physically and verbally. Yes, he was like that, and always was because of his rough childhood. Then again, it isn't an excuse for his behavior. I don't think people should compare John and Kurt, but we should appreciate them for what they did separately. They both impacted a generation in different ways that can almost not be compared to one another. thanks for the comment, I agree with it greatly.
That one dude who said “he had it made and he still shot himself” really pisses me off. Suicide isn’t a matter of wealth. The “it could be worse” mindset is so toxic. Depression is depression, it doesn’t see status.
You talk as if depression cant be treated. He could've gotten help, see a therapist, get meds but he chose the easy way out. Depression aint a choice, but doing nothing about it especially when you have the means to do so is. Hes a coward in my book.
sly possum A coward for committing suicide? Dude, I’ve lost friends to suicide, how dare you call it the easy way out? It is very real, and you never know someone’s struggle. You should be ashamed of yourself, that’s such an awful thing to say.
I think everyone is actually missing what he was trying to say, I took it as less of him blaming Cobain and more that he was upset that even someone with everything couldn't be happy and it makes him mad.
I grew up listening to the Beatles. Their impact on not only music and culture is incalculable. If you weren't there you just don't know. Years later my daughter came home insisting that I listen to this album by her new favorite band, Nirvana. Sure that it would suck, I said Ok. My response was they were absolutely great. Not part of my generation but they were just great. It's a shame when old geezers forgot what it's like to be young.
Although Lennon’s message is important, and I do like hippies, and psychedelics are powerful, peace love and happiness and shit is not all that there is to life there’s that duality, with light there’s gonna be dark and i know Kurt wasn’t the “next John lennon” he was his own being he was doing something very unique but as far as influential impact on youth especially his music is important because life isn’t always peace and love and happiness and for these alternative kids going through a lot or even just anyone dealing with mental illnesses it’s important representation of life and it’s dark notes, because when all the music is about peace and happiness but you don’t feel that it just makes you feel crazy, but having that music to relate to even if it is darker and more of a “sour note” is important I think, and I think it’s a good outlet and makes you feel less alone and crazy for going through whatever your going through and less crazy for how you feel. If you read this thanks, it’s my opinion but I’m sure people could agree, and I honestly didn’t go as in depth as I could’ve
Couldn’t agree more. Different music speaks to different people, and it’s ridiculous to make music such a polarizing subject when it’s supposed to bring people together.
Love this, representation is all art is in the end. But on the other hand from that pain can always lead to individualism and empathy, which if there’s anything borderline personality disorder and depression have thought me, are all there is in creating true love and fulfillment.
When someone badmouthes the corporate society and all the bad that comes with it, you make it look like some hippies. Hippies are kids that don't understand the system and want impossible things. Peace and love? Nonsense. You need to grow up because being mature means being resigned to work for Babylon. Talk of peace won't pay the bills. And they need you to be their little toy soldier. So they create amalgams to manipulate the masses. False flags here. Typical of mass media. And simply writing this, you can end up in a list of possible terrorists.
Why are they acting like no musicians have ever done drugs lmao.
Charley Patton was singing about cocaine in 1929 lol.
Especially a generation who witnessed Woodstuck. I meaaannn..
right, look at Elvis
John Lennon was a heroine user belive it or not! But they failed to mention that, and they didn't hesitate to mention kurt used drugs
Reggie Fils-Aimé The Beetles also did a lot of LSD. I mean look at the song and cartoon of “Yellow Submarine”. Oh and the lyrics that go “Lucy in the sky with diamonds.”
Clearly about tripping on LSD haha. I’ve taken acid and I know exactly what they’re talking about.
“But he did drugs!”
95% of musicians since the 50s: hold my coke
Since the 1650s
Since forever actually
period
Artists in general are attracted to drugs most artists are more emotional people emotional people more often feel attracted to these things its just how that works and there is nothing bad about it everybody makes choices fuck its your own body as long as you dont hurt anyone else with it i dont see the problem
Wait. coke is a drug?
This video is the definition of “you wouldn’t get it”
Honestly a generation that mourned Jim Morrison should have got it.
@@davidmayberry3190 the ones that mourned jim arent in this video. A lot of those guys died young and arent exactly easy to interview.
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John Lennon was an aggressive person singing about peace and Kurt was a very peaceful person singing agressively
Wow. Well done.
Hahaha very funny!
Kurt was by no means peaceful
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. How so please elaborate
@@JadonHale Kurt said he respected John Lennon, but when it came to it he'd rather resort to violence than to settle things without it
“Why would the media glorify someone who does drugs?” Excuse me, are you saying that The Beatles never did drugs? Or literally any other rocker.
"We all live in a yellow submarine." This was definitely not written whilst on drugs. 😂
Never said beatles didn't use drugs, it was only said media shouldn't glorify people does drugs. I agree
Sex drugs n rock n roll
Diego Kanashiro while glorifying someone who did drugs? Like John Lennon.
@@shutupdodo3686 the opinion was social media shouldn't glorify the use of drougs. No matters if they glorify beatles, it wasn't ok anyway
“Listen to the music, listen to the words”
*literally talking over Kurt singing*
That was the whole point of the opening piece. The lyrics match what was said about how the "younger" generation was feeling. As the reporter says about listening to the words, you can clearly hear Kurt's words.
The news item itself was trash though.
@black lives matter pretty shit name man
@@clasping8219 get the fuck outa here
@@sugarnnndiesel6815 no u
Lol yes 😂
"Listen to the music, listen to the words"
Kurt: E-
"THESE words are the lyrics of Kurt cobain"
E- is a very influential lyric in his songs. It brings me to a tear whenever i hear it, its so emotional and powerful
27 likes oop
I'm like "STFU REPORTER!"
😂😂😂😂
E
Boomers mad he did drugs.
Because Elvis, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin, Jimi Hendix and even John Lennon himself were all sober?
Like 75% of musicians who die young die of overdose.
You forgot prince
Almost every music legend
Everybody has always been a fuckin' junky.
At least boomers worked hard
This just in: old people don't like young people's music
Wow, I never water was wet. Thank you for sharing that.
This is funny because the young generation back then had old people who hated their music but now that “new generation” are parents now and hate the younger generation’s music ight
@@luismoreno9554 as will you
Been like that since music existed
John Do people really act like the majority of musicians didn’t do drugs, I mean Johnny cash, W.A.S.P., RATT, Judas Priest just to name a few groups. More recently names like Miley Cyrus, Cardi B, Snoop dogg. They’re all doing drugs because the type of people likely to do music industry are also the type of people to smoke crack or weed or take dopamine and shit.
Everyone talking about him doing drugs acting like Elvis didn’t overdose
Elvis also married a 14 year old girl but no one talks about that cause he got her parents permission
@@markissacs7784 he met her when she was 14, he married her when she was like 22
Mike Jones regardless of ur political standing this situations is a bit creepy. This is like me dating my grade 9 math teacher. Why would he even be attracted to me in the first place
Mike Jones so it would be okay in republican standards? Wthh
And mj too right
he wasn't the next john Lennon, he was the first Kurt Cobain
ik, that was his flaw...ppl are different not be imitated.
The first and the last
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Freddie Fresh How reFRESHing it was to read your comment. I wholeheartedly agree.
Freddie Fresh why r u smarter then me
Man the reason we love Kurt is because he didn't sing about love and happiness all the time. He sang about how he was feeling at the time, and how the world had hurt him. It was raw and real, and while I love the Beatles, I love Nirvana so much more.
I think the reason Nirvanas music was so good was even when singing about love and things that should be happy he did it with the reality that some of the happiest things are painful and especially for people who suffer from mental illness the feeling of being numb when you shouldn’t be really hits! He definitely was one of the greatest
And the Beatles had heavier darker songs too (especially on the White Album), these boomers probably became Reagan conservatives by the 80s and only chose to remember their boy band side
Beatles had plenty of dark songs, Specially by John
Kurt also loved the Beatles and pop music. There might not have been a nirvana as we know it without their influence
@@sathira_anuk5179 I'm thinking these people only listened to the "Can't buy me love" early poppy Beatles as opposed to the psychedelic, more rockish white album stuff. Shit, "Happiness is a warm gun" is almost grunge-like, especially the guitar sound
“Why do people admire someone who was addicted to drugs”
*went to woodstock 1969*
Exactly
Pink GhostFace innit mate
I would go 😅
John Lennon was a heroin addict
Also they’re simping for John Lennon when the Beatles definitely did a fuck ton of drugs lmao
oh, like John Lennon never did drugs, riiiiight
Well Kurt was a junkie and John was just a hippie it's a pretty big difference.
+Domenico Pagala lmao John was a junkie too but unlike cobain he didn't die a junkie
you idiot, at one point he was a heroin and cocaine addict
They were both extreme liberals, they are pretty damn similar.
Sam Summers lul, it's from hurts in stomach.
dude i forgot kurt was the only singer that’s ever done drugs
Ikr
No Lennon did them to and prolly a couple others
@@someperson8953 wooosh
MYNAME A JEFF I thought they were serious
Some Person thats the whole point of a woosh
To every boomer who didn’t get it, just remember what your parents said about the Beatles. No generation seems to get the music of the next. You can grow old without being old.
And yet here we are. And i can't connect with music of my time. Music from back then is what i connect with. Music today makes me want to turn the radio off. There is literally no artist that have popped up over the last 20 or so years that have anything relatable at heart. Just people singing, touring and trying not to let the fame get to their head.
Now we've lost all the good ol boys. But i'm thankfull for what they left us.
May they all Rest in Peace and their work inspire billions of people to come.
@@gargoyled_drakeplenty of great current artists out there you just gotta look! Get off the radio for starters...
Boomers aren't really human.
What are you talking about. The Beatles and Stones are all in the Silent Generation. The Boomer generation has a huge “shoulder” crossover from Silent Generation to Gen X.
I’m young “tail ender”boomer. RHCP are boomers like me..!
I grew up listening to The Who, The Doors, zeppelin, meh Beatles some, but they were all “before me.” My core age music would be from Steve Miller, Allman Bros, Lynard, AC/DC, The Cars, Prince, Aerosmith etc…. But I also dig/dug Soundgarden, PJ, the grunge stuff, some synthpop, RunDMC( not Spice Girls or Eminem😊 tho).
The Boomer generation, at least the trailing ones like myself probably have the largest appreciation for music across the generations than any generation ever!!!
From my parents Big Band Glen Miller, Nat King Cole or Henry Mancini; to No Doubt, Killers, OAR, Dave, Blues Traveler, Black Crows ; to MIA, Pixies, Cortney Barnett, Cage the Elephant, Death Cab for Cuties.. Kurt Vile, Santigold! ❤️; even some EDM; techno not dub.
We get your music because it is ours too.
In the words of George Carlin, the Baby Boomers were given everything and took it all: the sex, the drugs, and the Rock 'N Roll. They ended up turning self-righteous and told younger generations to abstain from sex, say no to drugs, and sold the rock n roll to tv commercials for pasta machines and stairmasters. They literally went from do your own thing to just say no.
he wasn't john lennon he was kurt cobain
john hobbs I would like to like this comment more than once...
john hobbs yeah he wasn't the second John Lennon he was the first and only Kurt Cobain
He wasn't the next John Cobain, he was Kurt Lennon.
He isn't John Lennon, he is KURT COBAIN!
Both geniuses
Ah yes the two generations: 60 and 11 year olds.
😂😂
@@gabrielle-d1b Lol
That little 11 year old is 37 now wtf
I’m dead bro
No one cares about gen x lol
These might be some of the worst editing cuts I've ever see.
That last one (“maybe there’s a generation gap, bu-“) was the one that went over the line for me.
Indeed
Lets homeless man talk.
WHO PAN HANDLES FOR A LIVING
Lets him say a few more words.
@@cgates2 "it's kinda hard to understand but I-" that one pissed me off. Like come on, it sounded like he was about to say he actually enjoys the music or something
Yes, definitely
Little did people know, Kurt Cobain would still be an idol and absolutely adored to this very day. 30 years later.
Boomers acting like John Lennon wasn’t a heroin addict
And wife beater
toast didn’t he beat his kid too
toast, really?
Domestic abuser too
@@static_monarch4466 yeah, his pacifist nature was a way to pay off his sins, especially domestic violence. That was not a secret
did this suddenly get recommended for everyone else too
The UA-cam algorithm gods decided it was time.
Yuhhhh🔥🔥🆘
Yes
yes🙈
Yeap
How hypocritical of people to say they didn't understand why young people cared so much. That's like a younger generation asking why people cared when Elvis died.
So dumb it's like we aren't questioning their love for Lennon so why should they question our love for cobain
I agree even after his death 20 years on he still is inspiring a generation well in my case
***** and John Lennon weren't? Thinking he was bigger than Jesus etc?
Just no. Jesus is and will always be the most influential and famous historical figure of all time, hippie singers will come and go. And you've got the original comment Fucked up to be some sort of musical comparison, I was talking about the older gen being hypocrites in the vid.
***** And what makes you think it's a fact that Lennon is "more genius" than Kurt? You sound rather ignorant. It's all opinion on who people prefer.
2024 and still missing Kurt deeply... 💔😢 he always deserved better😔
We'll never forget Kurt ❤
RIP to a legend. Fly high Kurt.
I miss him too.
Get a grip
In a couple days he'll have been gone 30 years
Back thens old generation: wtf is this
Today’s older generation: I miss Kurt
I wonder what people will think about mumble rap in like 30 years. Theyll still probably hate it tbh.
Not just older, he still have a huge impact on alternative teens and kids. Although a fair majority of people would rather listen to what someone like Doja cat or Billie Eilish has to say I think kurt has a legacy that no matter what generation it will continue to thrive and his lyrics will help people always.
BabyGroover13 I love going back and listening to Kurt over the new age shit Billie eillish is overated I would much rather listen to the last mtv unplugged concert with Kurt in it
It's almost as if though people feel nostalgic for things they liked when they were younger.
Jerry C and as you age your taste in music stagnates and you have much fonder memories of the music you grew up too
that 11-year-old is now in his thirties...
+KLightningBolt hey, 50/50, tough world.
+Native_Resolution that's crazy to think about
+Native_Resolution yep. He and me...lol
+Native_Resolution Yep, I was around his age when it happened. Time keeps on tickin'...
Yup he probably grew up and is a huge Lennon fan.
What do I know I'm 30yo I just don't get it.
Boomers: Why would the media glorify someone who did drugs?
Also boomers: oh my god I love The Beatles there will never be another John Lennon
Yeah, it's hysterical. They're completely ignoring all the uppers and marijuana and LSD and heroin that he did 😂
Boomers were under 48 years old at this point.
Boomers were in their late 30’s/early 40’s in this time period, stop using boomer to describe an old person
Boomers grew up in the Cold War post WW2, the old people in this video grew up before WW2 and probably participated in it
Don’t forget Elvis
Barack Obama sounds like a boomer
Kurt Cobain: easily-
*LISTEN TO THE MUSIC*
Kurt Cobain: find my-
*LISTEN TO THE WORDS*
Lots of kids on here saying they wished they were born in the 90's. Do the math, Kurt died in 1994..you would have been ,at the most, 4 years old at the time of his death. That means you ...Nevermind.
I wouldn't wish to be born in the 90's. I would wish to be born on 1980, so I could grow up in the 90's. I would be about 14 when he would die.
Emmerson Bigguns Was that pun intended?
Emmerson Bigguns I was 2 going on 3 when he died, so I dont remember any of this. I always knew of how famous he was, and living 2 1/2 hours away from where he grew up, it was hard to avoid it. [I actually just visited his childhood home.] Kids dont need to be born in the 90s to enjoy Nirvana, just because you dont remember, or were even alive when he died. Just listen to his music and shut up. Haha.
93' of October 6, hadn't even turned 1 when he died, but you know youre right :D
Emmerson Bigguns I was 16 when he died. Man him and Eddie, Trent they spoke for us lonely isolated teenagers in the suburbs.
Wtf? Cobain just died, and they seriously based their story around a Lennon-Cobain comparison. Disgusting.
Cobain loved John Lennon, to be fair. To a large degree, both of them had very similar impacts in their respective generations.
@@MrAlepedroza yeah, but to report his death, only to compare him to John Lennon? Seems inappropriate and insensitive to me
@@ajh2027 You have to understand that, not everybody understand what meant Cobain's death, so they compare it with John Lennon, which was the spokeman for the older generation. It's a NEWS channel, and they have to adapt it so everyone keeps watching them. Plus, at that time there wasn't that much information about his death so they didn't had too much to talk and probably this wasn't the only thing they talked about him
Ikr😡
Cobain would have almost certainly been flattered by the comparison
Why does it matter who liked him and who didn’t. A young man died in a sad way. That’s awful period. What kind of sick person questions on how much grief is necessary.
@awkweerd why not?
America.
Well everybody except Hitler
I am ur 323rd like
@Stix N' Stones lazy
That kid: "It's kinda just the singer"
Dave Grohl: "We'll see about that"
ownerf yea, still waiting.
Dave grohl sucks ass.
@@luiskern8910 so does Kurt Cobain lol
Colton Frogge 100% agree
To be fair that kid was right when it comes to Nirvana it was really about Kurt Cobain. Dave is a great musician but let's be honest here.
Dave: “hold my drumsticks”
Elvis: *dies from an overdose*
Boomers: "He was so great!"
Kurt Cobain: *commits suicide due to depression*
Boomers: "It was all the drugs he was taking!"
It wasn't necessarily an overdose in the traditional sense. Elvis was on a very diverse split of uppers and downers, mixing several types of stimulants which caused his heart to enlarge. That, plus the weight he had put on just because too much of a workload on his heart. I'm sure he was on something when he died but it was more from the years of abuse than a single dose.
Also Kurt was murdered
Misspelled “Kurt Cobain was murdered”
Watched the documentary soaked in bleach. Pretty eye opening
Boomers were in their 30s at the time, these old folks are silent generation.
Am i the only person who see's old footage of things and wonders who in the video is dead now?
Jack Manson Nope, That homeless man must be famous now. Look who's popular now...Smartass.
xXx_billy _xXx What the hell did that have to do with my comment?
+Ryan Adkins me 2.
lmfao i was thinking the same thing while watching this video.... its crazy tho
Bro this is from 94, that's only 22 years...fuck, 22 years.
Money can't buy you happiness- Bob Marley. It's quite depressing to make it to the top and still find no pleasure in life
He had heroin
heroin can buy happiness, for a while.
His wife had him killed because he was going to divorce her. Watch the documentary "soaked in bleach" it explains everything.
mark walls Doesn't explain why he tried to kill himself months before while on tour in Italy
Lmao, don't be so naive. Just cause you watched a film doesn't make its content true. People love playing that card and it makes me laugh.
John was one of Kurt’s idols, he didn’t like to be put above his idols. John was a peace activist, though he did drugs as well. You can’t really compare them other than they are both influential musicians for different generations. They did different genres, reached their peak at different times. Both Kurt’s death and John’s deaths were very tragic. I hope they are at peace now. ❤
If you think Lennon’s message was of ‘peace, love and hope’ then you didn’t listen to Lennon at all.
If you think Cobain’s message was of ‘anger and despair’ then you didn’t listen to Nirvana at all.
Peace out brotha
As someone who hasn't listened to a ton of Lennon, what was his message? If he had one singular message, that is
Ryan Higginbotham Well he preached world peace but was an alleged woman beater. Essentially a hypocrite.
@@beansontoast6622 A lot of people exaggerate the "he beat his wife" shtick. It only happened once when he was drunk, that's not an excuse but it's not as bad as beating her regularly as some people make it seem. Also do you know how we know he did it? Because he admitted to it himself as he wanted to be a better father and husband, he took full responsibility and wanted to be better.
Don't think that makes him a hypocrite
I think nirvana songs did talk about anger and disparo. It wasn’t a “message” it was just an creative expression of feelings
I really hate when people say that this person is the next John Lennon or Freddie Mercury or MJ or anyone else who had a massive impact on our current culture. Everyone one has a different effect on music. Lennon and Cobain both changed music, but not in the same way
I totally agree with you. Just because someone takes inspiration and does anything awesome doesn't mean they are the same person. Kurt Cobain is not next John Lennon but he's the only Kurt Cobain.
People merely say that as a comparison to show how much they affected their lives just as their time had
I agree, although they did have a lot of similarities. They both stood for peace & equality (despite the fact Lennon wasn’t the kindest of people). They were both in relationships with women that were hated by many (Lennon with Yoko & Kurt with Courtney). They were both frontmen of the most popular band of their generation (some might say Lennon wasn’t a frontman, but he definitely acted like it). They both had messages they tried to send through their music. You’re right that they shouldn’t be compared, but they did share a lot of similarities & Kurt was a massive Beatles (& especially Lennon) fan
Thank you! Finally! Let's just not compare.
I mean, it’s a very normal thing to do. Not nowadays because Kurt became an cultural icon on his own terms but every new artists is going to be compared to an older one.
Yikes. Imagine being this out of touch and disrespectful to a dead artist.
I don’t think they weren’t that disrespectful
Isaiah GOAT mentally ill man who committed suicide. “BUt joHn LeNnON THoUgH”
It hurts! But it's basically the same as Chester Bennington (Linkin Park) and that was so recent but still touched the world so hugely
I like your profile photo 😊
Antony Braus they legit said they couldnt see the value of his music not because it was bad but because it was a new wave of music that they had not heard and didn’t know how to feel about... like wtf you want them to say lmao... y’all just soft low key
This makes me so sad. I never knew that everyone portrayed him as some devil back then. If you’ve watched interviews with Kurt you can see he was quite the opposite. He was kind and genuine, he was an advocate for lgbt rights too.
Many people are simply afraid of what they don’t understand
Grunge rock was generally considered a "silly gen X young people thing" in the 90s, and Kurt Cobain was the apotheosis of it, so he got no respect from older people then. Then he died, and we were all bereft, even if his music wasn't our style. I was more into alternative at the time, but I remember walking into my university bar the day he died and hearing the news. I was shocked and distressed.
@@russetmantle1 it's so crazy how these old people have no empathy for the dude and then they go to blame it on being born before the 70s or something lmaoo
Just some added context, this happened in the cooldown period of the satanic panic situation… so if an artist’s genre wasn’t classic rock and roll, country, pop, new wave… it was subjected to heavy scrutiny/especially by parental christian types.
He also was a very shy introvert, who probably worried too much about his reputation, like many introverts do. I'm sure the unfair criticism and demonization from the boomers and older generations contributed significantly to his struggle with popularity and subsequent death.
Kurt was just honest. John Lennon preached what he didn’t practice.
Lennon was a comie preaching obout no property from his mansion
This is backwards.
argue things you actually know abt
エマのせかい! So did Kurt bro look it up.
Aditya Mishra how
Person- “no it’s kind of hard to understand but I-“ *gets cut off*
Other person- “yeah there might be a generation gap but I-“ *gets cut off*
It's that awesome 90s video editing magic
Thats what I thought, too. If you really want to manipulate peoples words at least make it properly.
Nascar
Timestamps
1:22 and 2:24
Journalism at its finest...
“In a couple years time will tell” bro its 2020 we still missinn this man
This
Fr fr
Don’t think he’d handle these years. God knows it’s hard enough for most let alone a fragile Kurt 😢
@@Les_Grossman80 so true so true this world today so messed up
R.I.P
Ah yes, because if you have money you are immune to depression.
Money gave him the freedom to do what he wanted
You should be unless you develop an unexpected medical condition. Money fixes most problems.
@@YOTSUBA_desu Depression doesn't equal sadness. Depression is a mental disorder caused by numerous factors in the brain. Anyone can have it regardless of wealth or fame.
crazy how the lack of empathy over a humans death is justified with “maybe it’s the generation gap”
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. There is no place for empathy when it comes to people who grieve for a celebrity they never met. A family member would be another story.
It wasn’t a lack of empathy. Do you think the Greatest/Silent generations would have understood the Boomers’ grief over Lennon’s death?
yarpen26 doesn’t matter if they knew him or
not. no one in the video “knew” kurt. it’s a sad news report over another artist dead. their responses lacked empathy whereas the others didn’t & that’s it
angelintodemonseed it was a lack of empathy lol rewatch the vid. doesn’t matter if they understood or not. not everyone has to understand something to feel bad over a life gone
elisa franco Okay then, I no longer give a shit-it was over 20 years ago when I was a baby anyways. Lol Suck it up and move on.
”i wouldn't compare him to John Lennon” why? Because he didn't beat his wife?
Nope, Kurt did “throw her into the ground and choke her(his wife)” according to archive.seattletimes.com/archive/?date=19930701&slug=1709039
@@edwinlundmark Well that's not technically beating..
@@h.plovecat4307 Are u high
A lot of people exaggerate the "he beat his wife" shtick. It only happened once when he was drunk, that's not an excuse but it's not as bad as beating her regularly as some people make it seem. Also do you know how we know he did it? Because he admitted to it himself as he wanted to be a better father and husband, he took full responsibility and wanted to be better.
@@haywoodjblome4768 what the fuck is wrong with you? 'Just once'? Christ, grow a backbone. It doesn't matter what an abuser says or promises after they beat you, nothing they say will ever make up for their violent choice.
What is the opposite of joy?
Answer: *Watching this poorly put together news report* .
To be honest, this report was much more professional than I thought it would be. If todays news reported about something that wasn't sitting right with their values and agenda, they'd exaggerate and show angry extremists.
It’s bc Kurt didn’t hate women like Lennon lol
Show proof that he hated women
john’s ass you have google , do it yourself .
@@engagementengagement8836 we was a wife beater, he later became a pacifist to "pay for his sins".
He made mistakes but Kurt wasn’t no saint either lol
@@georgefreemon2935 at least kurt had basic human decency . lol .
Me: Trying to listen to the words
Presenter: “LISTEN TO THE WORDS”
............well let me
Facts😂
To be fair, they did allow a moment for "Everything's my fault"
lmao
“Did drugs and got shot in the head” applies to John Lennon more than Kurt
The only difference was one shot himself and the other got shot by a loon
Gigalag The Great Worm they both got shot by loons
@@hazeknowledge7444 That's an awful thing to say. People who suffer from mental illness are not 'loons'.
@shandi warren i think he was implying that someone else shot kurt.
Nick McClanahan cough cough Courtney love
1:43 They really took the time to throw shade... At a homeless man. He wasn't even talking down but trying to understand why it happened! Man, whomever narrated this should have been fired
The whole editing and was horrible, talked over people or Cut them off
Honestly he it was just a misunderstanding as the man is literally poor and always chasing the money where kurt had "everything" a poor man could wish for. Both different struggles :/ american really needs to work on our homeless and the mentally ill. I cannot till my generation has full control and just this around.
Idk man crack hits different
@@a.n.t.4484 yeah the anchors were too dense to understand that. Or maybe they just didn't care
I honestly can’t help but be mad at him. “I’m disappointed in him.” I know that man has probably had a rough life. Worse than most of us obviously. But even uttering that kind of statement about a mentally ill person who committed suicide is beyond fucked up. Like... I’m sorry that his pain led to killing himself, sorry that “disappointed” you.
All the hardships in the world and not a goddamn lick of wisdom was earned on his fucking forehead. (It’s also really late and that stuff just strikes a nerve with me, I hope he’s happier now and stuff, it’s not his fault he doesn’t understand, now I’m ranting. Sorry)
Does this get recommended whenever a rock musician dies? Van Halen's death is the only thing I can think of that would make this pop up for me
It's just like boomers to not feel a damn thing when someone influential to a lot of people commits suicide, save for "He did drugs, what an awful guy"
it’s everyone’s parents.. it would be awkward if parents were like oh yeah i fucking love it to our music to be different from them and develop our own tastes outside of theirs..
@@emmymoon8718 Not completely true. This was only back in 94 a lot of the kids in the videos are around 30ish rn and all the people are Gen x which are the main generation that listened to music like this and atill do. Prime example in my family os my father and my sister which fall into those 2 catagories. The adults in that video however are either baby boomers (boomers) and the generation that gave birth to baby boomers. Albeit the tine difference from gen x and later baby boomers is very small a lot pf their outlooks and likes are quote different overall. Ie my father is pretty much nothing like people that are a few years older. Like he has almost night in common with someone who was in highschool when he was in later elementary even though atbthis point they are both 50+
Emmy Moon that’s not right, sorry. Boomers are born in like the sixties
@@anastasiabananastasia the "baby boom" was following ww2. When all the sholdiers got home they made a lot of babies. 1945 - 1955ish.
@@anastasiabananastasia You are confusing the baby boomers with gen X
“Their messages differed.”
No they didn’t.
Lennon rebelled against the previous generation.
So did Cobain.
the thing no one talks about is that Cobain's music was about peace and equality, people can't handle the different medium.
I think Cobain was against the fakeness, emotional fakeness of the 80s, so yes, I agree with you
Also, Lennon beat his wife. But, ya know... **sips tea** ..that ain't none of my business.
@@AnalyticalMenace Bruh I'm sick and tired of people like you always bringing this up whenever John Lennon is raised in a conversation. He beat his to-be wife ONCE and he had admitted his mistakes on multiple occasions. He tried to change his ways and was slowly changing into a better person when his life was cut short. Was he a perfect human being? No. He was just a normal guy, who made mistakes in his life that he later owned up to.
@@thundervoid420 So because it was only once, then it's ok? 🙄
Everyone likes different music. But if you don’t like nirvana idk man.
Not everyone likes men.
@@RandalfElVikingo hahahahahaa
Tengo ataques de panico.
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Why should I? Outside their hits the songs are really bland, all using the same structure and even chord progression. Kurt wasn't exactly a diverse singer either
oh my god that adorable eleven year old who knew Kurt wrote all the music...that was the most touched I've been by anything in months
That was actually really profound what he said, he was totally right. There are many bands where you can lose a major member and still go on, even a band like Van Halen did it. That was impossible for Nirvana.
He really seemed to have a crazy deep understanding of musicianship even though he said so little, wonder what he's up to now
Adorable and almost 100% wrong, yeah kurt wrote some of the music but didn't write the drum lines and didnt write the bass lines. The drum lines especially because tons of the reason why nirvana was so successful was because of Daves aggressive playing and also smart and melodic way of being able to play with whatever was given to him. This is evident in the band only blowing up after Dave joining. And don't forget Dave or Krist's personality which was probably what made people love the band so much. Imagine if instead of getting Dave we got Chad who had awful timing and also wasn't as aggressive which seems impossible because Bleach is much more aggressive than the 2 albums Dave played on.
If it weren't for Dave or Krist kurt probably would've been a broke junkie who peaked at 22. I mean he was always a junkie who shot up heroine 24/7 but he was rich. I don't understand why people constantly idolize this random guy who would take drugs in front of his newborn daughter.
@@SKIXETcareful you might strike a nirvana
Oh, you must be a Taylor Swift and Beiber fan@@SKIXET
The older generation really sang along to Lucy in the sky with diamonds and hate on Kurt for doing drugs?
How tf is Lucy in the sky with diamonds not ab drugs?
Rocker DREXMUSIC Engagement Dawg, it’s literally called LSD, the song is about drugs.
@@calebduarte5255 it's "literally" a song John wrote about a picture julian drew in school. "Literally". A make believe world from a grade school kids imagination.
Ringo even said "any time they tried to make music under the influence of anything, it sounded like shit and we couldn't use it "
Doesn't matter though, because we all know that nirvana ripped off killing joke.
Yh, go figure. 🤷♂️
@@gerryendersen4718 THANK YOU...
Homeless guy doesn't get it. Money doesn't make everyone happy, sometimes you're just a lost cause mentally.
Tengo ataques de panico.
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Well you can't really expect him too either
you don't get being homeless
Money doesn't but happiness but it gets rid of misery
@@zrcinyourdreams8140 Fuck you quit posting this
It's funny because today the older people get it and the younger just don't.
Omnirex, and it's going to be the same with our generation of music and the next
Every generation has it's share of assholes who will never "get it". Unfortunately, they seem to be the ones who gain the most money and power, while the rest of us just sigh and sing a song or two about it.
So you see old people hating on the new generation back in the 90s and think “wow such assholes I would never do that.” And then proceed to do the exact same thing
Itz Kirby and now you're part of the cycle
Nathan Big Shlong John hating on materialism culture not the shity music. All the artists now are products
“In Nirvana it’s just the singer.”
RIP Dave Ghrole
Mal 1928 no. I’m laughing at the spelling of Grohl also
nevermind wouldnt be the same without dave's drumming or kris' bass
@@shadowyyCFH Exactly
God damn I hate old people sometimes...
+Chris “Cristobal” Smith Haha good observation. Yes I have had many times I've wanted to go on a rage fueled violence fest on people in my school who embrace this shitty pop culture when I was still in high school. Luckily I don't have to be around those people anymore because I can choose not to
+austin MR.coueslan@hotmail.com man you're lucky to be out of high school... I'm in high school now and i HATE it. i have to deal with mindless idiots who love the biggest douche on the radio just cause he's popular, and have no idea who fuckin Led Zeppelin are. it drives me absolutely insane.
+Dinosaur Sr. sounds tough
They 're stick in time (some of them).
Austin Coueslan you still gotta respect those old people still in the army though
Why’d they come at the homeless guy “a homeless man, WHO PANHANDLES FOR A LIVING”
@Stix N' Stones What other professions are there for homeless people?
@@LordVader1094 trying to get a job, find food without begging, get a place to sleep at night, deal with possible mental issues that were ignored by their closest friends and family, try to overcome addiction with or without help, not get mugged or killed or raped, evade people that might have it out for them, deal with people looking down on them and assuming the worst when sometimes life just punishes good people anyway. Need I list more or is that good enough for you?
@@LordVader1094 I was made homeless for a while and I worked in a shop. Saved a lot of money not paying rent.
@@LordVader1094 You could literally be a homeless office worker, or pretty much any other profession. That said, I don't think you need to add what the homeless dude does for a living in your interview about Kurt Cobain's death, but then again, I'm not a 90's reporter, am I?
Ikr like his opinion wasnt as inportant
There was never a singer that could sing with anger and hurt like kurt cobain. Thats why his voice struck people.
He could sing from deep down, with the anger and hurt he felt throughout his life. He could sing it such a beautiful way, and this is how he connected with young people back then. He tapped into those feelings they all had, ie young people, whom all have doubts at that age.
I also loved the fact he hated most of the people whom loved his band, just because of there success. Those fake people, he did not want following his band. Thats why in inutero, he changed into very weird music, to put them off.
Hollywood is a cesspool, and kurt was worth more dead than alive, as he was totally sick of it.
Kurt being a misanthrope, i think many of his real fans can relate to that.
andyhello23 Kurt was an amazing singer but Layne staley acan also sing with a lot of pain
andyhello23
That my friend is just a lie
andyhello23 errrr not like but certainly amazingly well in their own, Trent Reznor is one musician who can do it through his voice and even in just his instrumentals. Kurt was just more well known, given grunge was part of the pop movement of the nineties giving him what he called fake fans who didn't understand his music how he wanted to be.
"...very weird music, to put them off."
that's complete Bullshit. In Utero was exactly what he wanted to and it represents there whole Sound like nothing before. it was much more Nirvana, than Nevermind was.
andyhello23 I'd like to challenge that Layne Staley was 100 times a greater singer and really made you feel his pain with his voice much better than Kurt ever did.
Kurt is definitely the voice of my generation. Most “Gen X” people agree he was an artistic hero we still mourn; no one was like him.
Drugs....? How did all the boomer’s artist die....cocaine, that’s right.
Wali Hamid and heroin
John lennon was murdered but he did do drugs and beat his wife and child
@danimalcollective1 but freddy mercury died of aids and did tons of drugs
.38 Special
@Raymond O'Connor u know he would probably have a huge chance of still being here if he would have been addicted to "Gay Away"
Might be the worst choice of interviewees I’ve ever seen
80 year olds an 11 year old and a legitimate crackhead
Wym? Homeless dude was talking facts tho
@@fatboyRAY24 The homeless dude was being shallow
The crackhead really topped it off.
@@miguelvidalmartinez9456 Of course he was being shallow if you watch him from your cozy home sipping some tea.
There are no words in the English language to describe how I felt when he died. Empty, numb are the closest. I was 15.
I have not listened to any Nirvana since 94, if they came on the radio I'd turn it off. It deeply affected me.
Just last week at the age of 37 I put Bleach on then Nevermind and In Utereo then started watching videos. It took me basically 22 years to come to terms with it. And you know what after all this time when I watch interviews or watch live shows Kurt holds up as being a true hero of mine.
I hear you, Kurt was a real artist and he left some great work in this world for all of us.
He was a very troubled soul with bipolar disorder, addiction and an effed up childhood. It is
amazing how much art he created in a short time. I wish he found help because he was in a position
to speak out on how badly humans treat each other.
But sadly that is how addiction plays out for many. He is missed by many.
casperld Seems abit over the top.
casperld pussy. Nobody cares. Hes dead. Move on fuck
They call me squints why do you feel the need to reply then?
Nadeem g if you don't understand you don't understand. That's okay. I didn't give a shit when Michael Jackson died cause I had no interest in him. But you can go on any of his videos and see comments similar to mine. I don't reply cause I don't understand.
*Old people acting like John Lennon wasn’t a drug addict and was a reason the Beatles disbanded*
John did drugs too. John wrote songs with lines like “Yes I’m lonely, wanna die”.
don’t forget beat the shit out of his wife!
@@yencent7414 forget.
@@yencent7414 Haha he didn't tho!
Yeah, they forget he had a heroin addiction
Kurt cobain is my favorite musician .And I will never get to see the him live in concert
Same here man. Such a shame he died a year before I was born :(
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but you can still see him dead if you have a shovel
@@stefko007 nope, cant even do that. he was cremated.
I had a music assignment in 9th grade lit where you read the lyrics to a song and Tom Hutchinson read Come As You Are and our English teacher just belittled him, made fun of him, made fun of the music, half way though I raised my hand and said “I love this song and I love Nirvana, too” and a couple other people gave a “yeah! Me too!” Because she was really going in on Tom. How two generations reacted two one voice.
Fuck that teacher. He/she was a trash and has trash taste in music.
I'm sorry, but the way you said that made it sound extremely corny.
Cringe
And then everyone clapped
Cringe
Another thing that Lennon and Cobain have in common:
Their Wives are hated worldwide for destroying their bands.
You know what I have noticed? That older generations never like music from the next one or the one after and that has to do with what you grow up listening to. People from the 60's that grew up on the Beatles and Led Zepplin thought this new music "Nirvana" was bad and couldnt enjoy and understand why young people like it so much. Like now, people that grew up on N.W.A biggie smalls tupac etc HATE the rap from now and dont enjoy and understand why young people like it so much. One day when us younger people are old and some new shit is popping we're going to think what the fuck is that. Its always been like that and always will be. What you grow up listening to will influence the way you view music for the rest of your life. Just my 2 cents.
Hades dude..,.our music today is trash asf and I'm 14😂 except for a few songs here and there....
Hades your 5 cents you mean
It's a negative cycle , that's why we just gotta learn to love and support everything
Not really i mean I love most rock from the 90s and 2000s, back when I was either not alive or really really young
Its all opinion based. Youre right though, Hades. I grew up listening to a little bit of everything so I hope I can understand the new music that will be released when I'm old lol
‘I’ll mourn for a kid, but won’t cry for a king’ is a lyric I was reminded of when they were interviewing the homeless man. The song it’s from, Neon Gravestones, deals with the topic of celebrity suicide, of how two people going through the exact same mental struggles can be treated so differently just based on their wealth and status. ‘How could he go if he’s got everything?’ Just because someone Might have fame and money doesn’t automatically make them immune to mental illness
Stay alive my friends
love twenty one pilots
I was thinking of the same.
This twenty one pilot lyric is the most apt comment for this video.
Stay Alive |-/
Just because one man's suffering seems much worse, doesn't make another man's suffering hurt any less!
And imagine if it did: wouldn't that be kind of sadistic or sociopathic anyway? Like: _"Welp, my wife left me, which would make sad, but this guy over there doesn't have a roof over his head and that makes me happy!"_ 😂
i think thats the point the homeless man was triying to make
2:10 for Nirvana its Just the Singer
Dave Grohl: hold my beer
*hold my f***ing _drumstick_
She won't come back the same from this A** beating- nah im jp
Tengo ataques de panico.
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Tjat guy is 37 now.
no one listened to nirvana and said “david grohl really carries this band”
Whenever depression hits me and I want to just cry and scream but I cannot... I listen to Kurt cobain (nirvana)'s music. It helps me so much and I feel like im screaming at the top of my lungs. I wish I knew him before his death. I love him so much
kid: "some bands its just the singer, and i think for nirvana it was just the singer"
Grohl: 😠
Nah he’s got foo
It's true tho. Grohl became the star he is today, but he would've happily stayed in kurts shadow his whole career. He's said it himself.
@@groowanderer thats because he loved the guy and understood his talent. Grohl didn't become great until after Cobain.. and even that took a few years.. you want to see pain and anger? Watch when Nirvana was inducted in the Rock n Roll HoF.. when he was forced to let the woman who basically drove his best friend nuts, accept Cobains legacy. You can tell it took every ounce of control to not murder her on the stage.
@@kingcloud432 link pls?
@@anakyangbudiman8497 look it up. Im sure its on yt
2020 and still teenagers are into Nirvana. Time did tell. Kurt Cobain is still remembered and missed by people who weren't even born at that time.
I prefer better Pixies, The Smashing Pumpinks , Soundgarden, Alice In Chains, REM.
@@lucashernandez4345the Pixies, R.E.M and maybe the Pumpkins are nowhere near as good as Nirvana
Siamese Dream > Nevermind
@@brendankelly9789 Have less of whatever you were on when you wrote that nonsense. Siamese Dream has 3 good songs on it.
I remember my dad saying to me 20 years ago no one would be listening to Nirvana now. WRONG!
Still miss him. But he would be so pissed off with today's music.
today's music is crap
joaquin lios #theofficebatman shitty pop tracks were definitely around his time, hell he grew up in the 70s and 80s they were filled with cheesy music. There is plenty of powerful pieces of music coming out nowadays just they don't tend to be on the top 40s because like pretty much always upbeat pop music is always a better overall seller because a larger amount of people can all enjoy it.
Yeah for sure, there are great bands out there and besides, being in the top 40's now is kind of overrated. I do agree with you. Idk if he would be making music or doing his art.
He would pissed off with the not only the music but also media, record labels, trump, teenagers today. The list goes on
Had he lived, maybe, just maybe, the scene could be different today. Call me naive, but I believe that certain people can make an entire solar system of other artists, media people, etc gravitate around them, thus influencing and shaping a scene that wouldn't exist otherwise. At least that's how I felt about Kurt at the time. Others like him are obviously Lennon, and definately Jimi Hendrix. But those were different times too, I guess.
25 years later, Cobain is considered a legend in the music industry, an innovator I a new genre that will be synonymous 1990s music scene and so much more in the lyrics and emotion behind them.
"Kurt is really the only one who made music in nirvana"
Le time passes
Foo fighters
He was the main figure in the writing of nirvanas music tho
he wrote 99% of it....Dave started contributing a little later on (namely Scentless Apprentice)
Foo Fighters has a handful of bangers. The rest is just bland af.
Jesus what a cringey comment. I dont even remember writing that. “Le time passes”, really....
@@Littlebites21 to be fair it was 3+ years ago
1:22 the old dude was cut off before he was going to say something nice. They also cut off what made the interviewer ask "So, you understand his music" to make it look like the guy was just riffing on Nirvana.
What older generations thought back then-
The Beatles: peace and love
Nirvana: anger and sadness
What they really mean-
The Beatles: drugs
Nirvana: drugs
Boomers: "The Beatles wrote songs about love and peace"
The Beatles: release Run For Your Life
yeah whatever peace and violence anger and sadness are 2 sides of the same coin. They both have the same message but convey it in different ways
2024 ... 30 years on and I am still crying. R.I.P. Kurt. You where a musical genius and you are never forgotten 🖤
I wasn’t even alive and I’m crying! 😢
*“A homeless man, who panhandles for a living.”*
Stop it...Get some help
But is he dirty tho
The Lukanator well you’d be dirty too if you didn’t have a home and bathroom
@@remythecow no I'm different
The Lukanator lmao no
@@roxanne_ it's a genetic thing
That old guy before the homeless man was a nirvana fan they cut him off
"Listen to the music"
"Listen to the words"
I can't you're TALKING OVER THEM
Damn this was a REALLY poorly put together package in almost every way
John Lennon did drugs as well. The whole band did. They some what gloried it and things like LSD as a way to weaken yourself and be free etc.
It's disgusting how they could sensationalize stuff like this.
Nothings changed really
In three weeks we can see what drugs he had inside of him so hype
Chris4chan lmao
Chris4chan it's been 3 weeks
Chris4chan I love you
Lmfaooo
Adventure Of Bucket Boy they do, and the result was enough heroin to make it impossible for even the biggest addict to kill himself
I can understand why the homeless man was angry about Kurts suicide.I felt that way when Chester Bennington from linkin park took his own life but it’s important to look at the big picture and understand why they decided to leave this world.
Boomers acting like having money cures depression
You do realize Boomers were in their 30’s and 40’s then right... those are definitely not Boomers. lol
Seth Rich did I ask
Depressed Cornstarch Nope. You don’t have to ask to look like an idiot.
Seth Rich what? I can’t comment something anymore? Fuck you
The ones in their 30’s were actually Gen X at that time, Boomers were born in the 40’s so those guys are actual boomers
That was one of the most poorly edited news stories I’ve ever seen. Even for back in the day, that was rough.
That’s why he hated the media.
"That's rough buddy"
I absolutely love John Lennon as much as the next guy, but the interesting thing is, while each singer promoted their respective and differing messages, Cobain actually behaviorally stuck to most of what he was talking about while Lennon, behind the scenes, would often be rage-filled, violent, abusive (verbally or otherwise), and promiscuous, which I believe are tenants of the antithesis of his general message. I do think John Lennon and Paul McCartney were the two greatest musicians to ever live and my respect for them is through the roof, but I just want to submit that the message in the lyrics isn't everything and I actually think Kurt and John were a lot more similar in many ways than the generational gap respective fans would have us believe.
P.S., Lennon didn't totally go against what he was saying as most of his behaviors and attitude were to fight for peace and love.... don't get me wrong.
THANK YOU
Inky Hip you're talking about his solo career while putting together, and if you have some proofs, that John was kinda violent. In the 60's there's the girlfriend that he had to marry cuz she was pregnant, while Beatles was becoming popular asf. they really were just boys in that time, and i think that Yoko was indeed his true love, she saved him from his angry personality or whatever, i think that he tought he would simply been lying if he said that he loved Cynthia, there was so much going on at the same time, plus he had an stressfull lifestyle, people just always took too serious his humour.
Yup, both are idols of mine! No doubt John was brave singing for peace in times of war, a pointless war might I add.
TBH Lennon was a hot headed rebellious teen growing up and was all about rock and roll until his managers told them that pop was the new thing, which Lennon didn't care for but still went along with it.
Inky Hip I totally get you. I love this comment because it is very true. Just as you, I have so much respect for Paul and John. Then again, The Beatles are my favorite band. But I agree when you said that John could be violent, physically and verbally. Yes, he was like that, and always was because of his rough childhood. Then again, it isn't an excuse for his behavior. I don't think people should compare John and Kurt, but we should appreciate them for what they did separately. They both impacted a generation in different ways that can almost not be compared to one another. thanks for the comment, I agree with it greatly.
I’m 59 and I love Cobain and Lennon. There doesn’t always have to be a generation gap.
But 30 years ago you would have been 29, when Nirvana was around I'd say that's perfectly normal to be a fan. Only 2 years older than Kurt himself.
@@DaRkLoRd-rc5yuI’m sort of in the middle - old Gen X or young Boomer.
That one dude who said “he had it made and he still shot himself” really pisses me off. Suicide isn’t a matter of wealth. The “it could be worse” mindset is so toxic. Depression is depression, it doesn’t see status.
He's the same dude who will tell you you should be ashamed of being anorexic because there are starving children in Africa 🙄
A homeless dude judging a depressed man who preferred to die on his feet than to live on his knees. THE FUCKING IRONY
You talk as if depression cant be treated. He could've gotten help, see a therapist, get meds but he chose the easy way out. Depression aint a choice, but doing nothing about it especially when you have the means to do so is. Hes a coward in my book.
sly possum A coward for committing suicide? Dude, I’ve lost friends to suicide, how dare you call it the easy way out? It is very real, and you never know someone’s struggle. You should be ashamed of yourself, that’s such an awful thing to say.
I think everyone is actually missing what he was trying to say, I took it as less of him blaming Cobain and more that he was upset that even someone with everything couldn't be happy and it makes him mad.
I grew up listening to the Beatles. Their impact on not only music and culture is incalculable. If you weren't there you just don't know. Years later my daughter came home insisting that I listen to this album by her new favorite band, Nirvana. Sure that it would suck, I said Ok. My response was they were absolutely great. Not part of my generation but they were just great. It's a shame when old geezers forgot what it's like to be young.
Although Lennon’s message is important, and I do like hippies, and psychedelics are powerful, peace love and happiness and shit is not all that there is to life there’s that duality, with light there’s gonna be dark and i know Kurt wasn’t the “next John lennon” he was his own being he was doing something very unique but as far as influential impact on youth especially his music is important because life isn’t always peace and love and happiness and for these alternative kids going through a lot or even just anyone dealing with mental illnesses it’s important representation of life and it’s dark notes, because when all the music is about peace and happiness but you don’t feel that it just makes you feel crazy, but having that music to relate to even if it is darker and more of a “sour note” is important I think, and I think it’s a good outlet and makes you feel less alone and crazy for going through whatever your going through and less crazy for how you feel. If you read this thanks, it’s my opinion but I’m sure people could agree, and I honestly didn’t go as in depth as I could’ve
Underrated comment. Very well said my friend
Couldn’t agree more. Different music speaks to different people, and it’s ridiculous to make music such a polarizing subject when it’s supposed to bring people together.
Love this, representation is all art is in the end. But on the other hand from that pain can always lead to individualism and empathy, which if there’s anything borderline personality disorder and depression have thought me, are all there is in creating true love and fulfillment.
When someone badmouthes the corporate society and all the bad that comes with it, you make it look like some hippies. Hippies are kids that don't understand the system and want impossible things. Peace and love? Nonsense. You need to grow up because being mature means being resigned to work for Babylon. Talk of peace won't pay the bills. And they need you to be their little toy soldier. So they create amalgams to manipulate the masses. False flags here. Typical of mass media. And simply writing this, you can end up in a list of possible terrorists.
@@sirlezard670 Damn straight lol
Kurt was one of the best rock singers ever. His raspy voice combined with emotional value were amazing.