As I said in the other comment Czerny would often publish things even decades after composing. There is no document saying when Czerny composed his op 365. So there is no way to know
@@Rose-zg9pu Chopin passed some time in Czerny's house. Its possible Czerny showed some of the etudes he was working on. Or vice versa. I'm just saying we can't know as there is no documents about that
SO WONDERFUL AS ALWAYS!!!!! Thank you for one of my favourite composers and for an excellent performance, again my best wishes from Poland, have a nice weekend. Joanna
체르니랑 쇼팽이랑 리스트 베토벤 다 친구(친하다는 의미에서)였어요. 반면 슈만도 체르니를 알지만 약간 기계적이라 별로 좋게는 안봤다고 하네요 그러니까 역사기록에 따르면 쇼팽과 체르니는 친한 선후배 사이 리스트는 체르니의 제자 베토벤은 체르니의 스승 슈만은 체르니를 비평한 사람 입니다.
정말 쇼팽 곡이랑 비슷하네요... 그런데 제가 꼭 사람이치는 걸 보고 싶은 곡이 있는데, 리스트의 청교도의 회상이라는 곡이에요. 멘데스님이 사보하셨던 곡인데 제가 재일 좋아하는 곡이에요. 제가 초6인데 청교도의 회상은 못 칠것 같아서요...ㅠㅠ 황선용님이 치는거 한번들어보고 싶어요ㅠㅠ
Did you know that the Czerny Prelude 5 to Op.400 has a similar Difficulty to Czerny Op.365 etude 19 and chopin Op.10-2? But I think it's more difficult than both etudes
연주 잘감상했습니다. 감상해보니까 이 체르니 에튀드곡은 단순한 에튀드가 아닌 쇼팽 에튀드, 슈만의 교향적 연습곡, 리스트의 연주회용 연습곡과 같은 콘서트 에튀드 (연주회용 연습곡)입니다. 따라서 콘서트홀 무대에서 연주하는게 진가가 상승하고, 제격으로 어울립니다. 또한 곡의 분위기, 멜로디 흐름이 로베르트 슈만의 피아노곡들과 유사한 색채, 이미지들이므로 처음 감상하신 분들중에는 로베르트 슈만의 곡으로 착각하기 쉽습니다.
@@paulfievet9301 Just confirmed. Schule des Virtusen, first published in 1837. Chopin Op.10 first published in 1833. I also thought Chopin was influenced.
I think you may possibly be the most talented amateur pianist on UA-cam. On another note if your interested in two more studies that explore this hard technique, Liszt wrote a technical study;(probably in homage to Chopin) no. 55 of his book 4 of technical exercises, and your probably well aware of the Godowsky arrangement of this technique too, called ignus fatus/will o the wisp,(I probably spelt that wrong) based on Chopin's op.10 no.2. And of course Liszt Grand Galop Chromatique isn't a study per se but it still utilizes the same technique. Keep learning and recording; you are an inspiration for me and others; I myself am working on Liszt's S.176(Grosses Konzertsolo) and after I record that will start exploring similar harder and obscure works like yourself.
Morality of the story: you need to be a genius. Chopin's etude is a fiery masterpiece. This is a dry torture for the pianist's fingers and the listener's ears.
전 쇼팽이 이 곡에 영향을 받은 줄 알았더니 오히려 체르니가 쇼팽의 10-2에 영향을 받은 거였군요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 심지어 10-2에는 없던 양손 반음계 음형까지 나오다니 ㄷㄷ 그런데도 이런 어려운 음형을 저렇게 정확하게 지시다니 정말 경이로울 따름이네요 어우... 근데 해시태그에 짭레리나ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
@@russellthompson9271 I think that yes, more round and warm sounding recordings/pianos are great too in any way, but maybe sometimes you can appreciate this level of purity of sound and technical mastery. You can really appreciate this piece in a different prospective.
Absolutely wicked performance! This piece is so heavily inspired by Chopin 10/2, but in direct comparison imho really lacks in music material. Your technique is really impressive and stunning!
오ㄷㄷ 체르니60 제가 체르니를 좋아하게 된 계기인것 같아요! 어릴적 피아노 체르니 30칠때 체르니 40,50,60,70.. 이 있을까 네이버에 검색해보니 첼니60이 있어서 그때부터 체르니 60을 알았죠. 그냥 그때 나의 순수한 마음이 알게해준 곡 같습니다.^^ 지금봐도 이곡이 정녕 사람이 칠 곡인가 싶네요. 특히 19번을 사람이 치는건 처음 본거 같네요. 너무 잘 치십니다!
For everyone asking why people are saying Frédéric Chopin copied Carl Czerny; This is bc Carl Czerny was born in 1791 and Frédéric Chopin was born in 1810 (Btw i might practice Chopin's Op. 10 No. 2 before Czerny's Op. 365 No. 19 lol)
Yep, Czerny was older but Chopin composed his Op.10 before Czerny did his 365. Czerny also didn’t write anything remotely close to this one before Chopin.
I'm sure it's slighter easier than the Chopin op 10 no 2 Etude without repeats but with repeats this would probably be much harder (hand cramp and stuff maybe not but I'm just guessing) I personally prefer this over Chopin op 10 no 2 (my opinion please don't hate me anyone that's reading this) but yeah nice vid and happy new year!
I almost cried 🙂 you absolutely should play for the next video Czerny Op.365 number 33 or 15 or 18 or 47, or instead Op.692 19 or 20 or 21! Por favor! please Please, please, Please
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Video: starts
Me: confusion
Me: look at the title
Me: still confused of how it sounded like Chopin Etude
Lol
Same here
Apparently is was made to be a parody of the Chopin etude
Oh my God it sounds so similar to Chopin's Op10No2
YesXDD
I think this is more difficult
@@seonyonghwang Perhaps Chopin took inspiration from this etude... 🤔
@@tommasomarino1575 lmao chopin wrote op.10 no 2 earlier
@@YuraK25 Really? I didn't know! Then Czerny took inspiration from Chopin Etude Op. 10 N. 2...
For everyone saying Chopin copied Czerny: Chopin Op. 10 was composed between 1829-32; Czerny Op. 365 was composed in 1837
Yess..!
This is true. I have no idea why some people insist that Chopin had some idea from Czerny - in fact it's the opposite.
I agree
Chopin was inspired by Czerny Op.161 etude 2 and Moscheles Op.70 etude 3
@@czeynerpianistproducercomp7155 do you have any proof that he did, since these studies aren't that well-known
Just letting yall know actually Chopin wrote the op.10 1st, Czerny is the one who got the inspiration. Both r amazing composers!
As I said in the other comment Czerny would often publish things even decades after composing. There is no document saying when Czerny composed his op 365. So there is no way to know
@@pawncube2050 well but then Chopin still couldn't have been inspired by Czernys piece.🤔🤗
@@Rose-zg9pu Chopin passed some time in Czerny's house. Its possible Czerny showed some of the etudes he was working on. Or vice versa. I'm just saying we can't know as there is no documents about that
Two congenial piano players and composers. Further statements bootless.
@@pawncube2050
So Chopin is the first for sure
와 테크닉 진짜 볼때마다 쩐다..ㅋㅋㅋ어떻게 저렇게 편안하게 치지 저걸
쇼팽에튀드 10 2 랑 진짜 비슷 ㅋㅋ
ㅎㅎ 감사합니닷!
보리보리 진짜 10-2 변주곡인줄 알았어요ㅋㅋ
엌ㅋㅋㅋ 저도 맨처음에 오른손 올라가면서 잉 이거 에튀드에서 들어본건데?? 이러다가 아니라는걸 느꼈어요 ㅋㅋㅋ
@@jjat-n1e 체르니 대양도 쇼팽 대양이랑 완전 비슷함
@@franz_liszt401 오오 맞아요
어떤분 말로는 그시대 작곡가들이 모방 또는 필사를 하며 배워서 비슷한곡들이 있을 수 있다고 하네요 ㅎ
SO WONDERFUL AS ALWAYS!!!!! Thank you for one of my favourite composers and for an excellent performance, again my best wishes from Poland, have a nice weekend. Joanna
Thx so much!!!
Excellent work. I need to study so that I may play a scale that fast someday. Good work.
I love how you played this piece. Keep it up! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Thank you so much!
넘 멋져요!!체르니60
넘사벽ㅎㅎ
스케일이랑 화음이 넘 또렷이 잘들리니 완전 귀호강하고 갑니당~~♡
This Study should be mandatory in piano competitions worldwide, I'm already bored with the usual repertoire
이거 보니까 음악가들 사이에 진짜 교류가 많았을 거라는 생각이... 뭔가 사료 보는 것 같아서 소름이 돋네요
체르니랑 쇼팽이랑 리스트 베토벤 다 친구(친하다는 의미에서)였어요. 반면 슈만도 체르니를 알지만 약간 기계적이라 별로 좋게는 안봤다고 하네요
그러니까 역사기록에 따르면
쇼팽과 체르니는 친한 선후배 사이
리스트는 체르니의 제자
베토벤은 체르니의 스승
슈만은 체르니를 비평한 사람
입니다.
@@deaboIn 깔끔한 정리네요
진짜 음악성 빼고 테크닉만 놓고 보더라도 이 분은 천상계다..
혹시 op.365 33번도 가능할까요? 곡은 넘 좋은데 난이도 때문인지 컴퓨터 연주버전밖에 안보이더라고요ㅠㅠ
Incredible
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Have you ever thought about playing Liszt's 4th Paganini etude from 1838?
I think you could pull it off.
정말 쇼팽 곡이랑 비슷하네요...
그런데 제가 꼭 사람이치는 걸 보고 싶은 곡이 있는데,
리스트의 청교도의 회상이라는 곡이에요.
멘데스님이 사보하셨던 곡인데 제가 재일 좋아하는 곡이에요.
제가 초6인데 청교도의 회상은 못 칠것 같아서요...ㅠㅠ
황선용님이 치는거 한번들어보고 싶어요ㅠㅠ
Did you know that the Czerny Prelude 5 to Op.400 has a similar Difficulty to Czerny Op.365 etude 19 and chopin Op.10-2? But I think it's more difficult than both etudes
Yeah Czernys etudes are often more difficult than Chopins etude.
omg you again. you're everywhere where czerny etudes are XD
이번엔 좀 빨리 돌아오셨군요!
Cual será tu siguiente de grabación de Czerny?
Fun fact: Carl Czerny was Franz Liszt's piano teacher
And one of czerny's teachers was beethoven
넘 잘 들었어요. 요즘 체르니에 꽂혀서 이래저래 감상중인데 소나타 하나 잡고 전악장 연주해주실 수 있을까요? 미리 감사합니다. +.+ 1번해주세요. 2movement 좋던데.. ㅋ
Can You record Czerny Op.365 etude 15 without repetition bars or Op.692 Etude 21?
Two words = elegant music💗🎹🎼🎵🎶
😍😍😍😍🤩🤩🤩🤩❤❤❤❤❤💕💕
Thx so much:D
연주 잘감상했습니다.
감상해보니까 이 체르니 에튀드곡은 단순한 에튀드가 아닌 쇼팽 에튀드, 슈만의 교향적 연습곡, 리스트의 연주회용 연습곡과 같은 콘서트 에튀드 (연주회용 연습곡)입니다.
따라서 콘서트홀 무대에서 연주하는게 진가가 상승하고, 제격으로 어울립니다.
또한 곡의 분위기, 멜로디 흐름이 로베르트 슈만의 피아노곡들과 유사한 색채, 이미지들이므로 처음 감상하신 분들중에는 로베르트 슈만의 곡으로 착각하기 쉽습니다.
쇼팽의 op.10 no.2발레리나 에튀드를 생각나게 하는 곡이군요 그래서인지 익숙하군요😃
감사합니다 ㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠㅠ 너무좋아요 진짜잘치세요.....
+ 체르니 많이 올려주세요..ㅎㅎㅎㅎㅎ
감사합니다!!
The technique is the same as Chopin's etude op 10 no 2 and sound pretty similar at the beginning.
Este estudo é uma paródia do Op. 10 no. 2 de Chopin.
I see where Chopin took inspiration from for his Opus 10 No 2 Etude :D
Other way round mate
Lol:D
@@paulfievet9301 Just confirmed. Schule des Virtusen, first published in 1837. Chopin Op.10 first published in 1833. I also thought Chopin was influenced.
@@wschee oh really? Good to know xd
@@wschee oh thanks.
Cool piece, thanks for showing me!
You're welcome! Thx!
Voltou com tudo! 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
ala um BR
@@corsasenpai2978 ala, outro BR
@@DAbdiaz ala mais um br
I think you may possibly be the most talented amateur pianist on UA-cam. On another note if your interested in two more studies that explore this hard technique, Liszt wrote a technical study;(probably in homage to Chopin) no. 55 of his book 4 of technical exercises, and your probably well aware of the Godowsky arrangement of this technique too, called ignus fatus/will o the wisp,(I probably spelt that wrong) based on Chopin's op.10 no.2. And of course Liszt Grand Galop Chromatique isn't a study per se but it still utilizes the same technique.
Keep learning and recording; you are an inspiration for me and others; I myself am working on Liszt's S.176(Grosses Konzertsolo) and after I record that will start exploring similar harder and obscure works like yourself.
Czerny wrote this piece 3 years later after Chopin finished composing his op. 10 no.2. Czerny composed it as a parody of Chopin's second etude. Lmao
Did he think Chopin’s op 10 no 2 wasn’t hard enough or something!?
쇼튀드 10-2와 비슷한 곡이네요.체르니 60을 이렇게 잘치시는 한국인이 계신다는게 놀랍네요. 오늘도 좋은영상 감사드립니다.^^
별말씀을요. 감사합니다ㅎㅎ
리스트씨 자작곡 악보 잘 받았습니다 곡명이 밤의 노래(선율)으로 해석됩니다. 맞을진 모르겠지만요ㅎㅎ 악보 비율이 a4에 맞진 않았지만 잘 출력해서 연습해보도록 하겠습니다.
@@lisztfan237 감사합니다.^^
@@Jamric-gr8gr 노래의 밤인가?
@@lisztfan237 밤의 노래요^^ 프랑스어입니다.
Oh my it is so similar to the chromatique op.10 no.2 of chopin the begging is almost identical
Can you upload Czerny Op 365 No 5?
Interesting piece and a good performance!
제가칠땐 이곡이 좋은줄 몰랐는데 잘치는 분들이 연주한거 들으니까 좋더라는 크흡...ㅠㅠ 오늘도 귀에 기름칠하고 갑니다 총총총♥
ㅎㅎ 감사합니다~
Spectacular!
혹시 체르니 ocean waves악보 어디서 구할 수있나요 찾고 있는데 구할 수가 없네요
치면 멋질거 같아요~^^
It would be very interesting to see you play something from Busoni's klavierübung!
People in the comments don’t know how to read video descriptions and it shows
honest question which etudes are more technically challenging Czerny or Chopin?
@Martin Mussiett probably, btw I'm not saying that technicality makes a song good I'm just a bit curious
촬영장비가 어떻게되나요~~?되게깔끔하게녹음이되는것같은데...알려주세요오~~:)
Remember to start at h=132 and repeat going faster until h=208
The mortality of the story - you need to be famous. Everyone know Chopin 10 2 but completely this similar one, which is an empowered one
Morality of the story: you need to be a genius. Chopin's etude is a fiery masterpiece. This is a dry torture for the pianist's fingers and the listener's ears.
Mix :
Chopin op 10 no 2
Prokofiev op 2 no 3
Debussy etude 7
+Mazeppa
@@강응호-v4f why Mazeppa?
0:54
@@강응호-v4f I do not see the resemblance, subscribe to my Channel I upload a lot of unknown music especially by Carl Czerny
전 쇼팽이 이 곡에 영향을 받은 줄 알았더니 오히려 체르니가 쇼팽의 10-2에 영향을 받은 거였군요ㅋㅋㅋㅋ 심지어 10-2에는 없던 양손 반음계 음형까지 나오다니 ㄷㄷ 그런데도 이런 어려운 음형을 저렇게 정확하게 지시다니 정말 경이로울 따름이네요 어우... 근데 해시태그에 짭레리나ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Unbelievable! It was awesome! Bravo!
반음계가 확실하게 들리는게 대단하네요.. 테크닉이 놀랍습니다 정말로 ㄷ
진짜 걍 쇼팽 발레리나 아닌가요 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
This recording sounds so clean! Keep it up.
You are welcome!! Thanks:)
Clean is boring
@@russellthompson9271 I think that yes, more round and warm sounding recordings/pianos are great too in any way, but maybe sometimes you can appreciate this level of purity of sound and technical mastery. You can really appreciate this piece in a different prospective.
선용님 체르니 대연주회용 연습곡 op.692? 19번 발라드도 조아연...
Aint that Etude Op 10 No 2
Absolutely wicked performance! This piece is so heavily inspired by Chopin 10/2, but in direct comparison imho really lacks in music material. Your technique is really impressive and stunning!
YEEESSSSS OP. 365 LET'S GOOO POGGERS DUDE
some years later: "Seon-Yong Hwang - Etude Op. 10 N. 2 (Prize winner) - Chopin Institute"
The title formatting is on point 😂
Please do czerny op 364 grand etude !!!
세상에나, 이 채널은 어떻게 외국인 베댓이 더 많은 겁니까, 어쩄든 연주 깔끔하고, 이 정도 난도면 저는 시도하다가 실패할 정도는 되겠네요 ;;;;
오ㄷㄷ 체르니60 제가 체르니를 좋아하게 된 계기인것 같아요!
어릴적 피아노 체르니 30칠때 체르니 40,50,60,70.. 이 있을까 네이버에 검색해보니 첼니60이 있어서 그때부터 체르니 60을 알았죠. 그냥 그때 나의 순수한 마음이 알게해준 곡 같습니다.^^ 지금봐도 이곡이 정녕 사람이 칠 곡인가 싶네요. 특히 19번을 사람이 치는건 처음 본거 같네요. 너무 잘 치십니다!
Черни классик этюдов. Очень хорошо для упражнений!👍
This is like chopin gone drunk and wrote this...oh, its Czerny
Quando eu olhei a partitura, e tive certeza que era o Estudo Op.10 No.2!😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Parece demais!
The mm is quarter note = 138, but he is playing about 160. Wow!
Would love Czernys Etude No.6 Op. 365 aswell!
체르니 60번이 있다니....놀랍네요! 아직 체르니 100인 저에게는 두통이 오는 악보네요ㅎㅎㅎ
Have you ever thought about playing Liszt's 4th Paganini etude from 1838?
I thibk you could pull it off.
Super Impressive!!!
could I get a score for this piece, thanks!
imslp.org/wiki/Schule_des_Virtuosen,_Op.365_(Czerny,_Carl)
wow! Nicely played!
Thanks you for the good play on the piano ! Sorry I can write incorrectly! I am fourth grade student. I like the way you play!
*Thinks of smart comment about how similar this is to Chopin's op 10 n°2.
*Looks at comments
*Never mind.
Lol😂
너무 좋아요 ㅜㅡㅜ
선용님 혹시 알캉의 대 소나타 20대 치실 계획 없으신가요? 곡의 하이라이트 부분을 선용님 스타일로 듣고싶어요!
생각중인 곡입니다:)
어찌 저 어려운 곡을 물 흐르듯이 연주하시는겁니까ㅠㅠㅠㅠ
Hoxy 알캉 열정적 스케르초나 symphony for solo piano 연주 가능하신가요?
글쎄용, 언젠간 다루겠죠? ㅎㅎ
전 선용님이 연주한 알캉 한피협을 들었습니다(!!) ^ㅡ^
@@Ok_chang 진짜여? 어디서여?
Beatiful. You should try Nr 33!!!! I think this is a very musical etude
I will check!
@@seonyonghwang True number 33 is worth it its very good
But the torture of four and five fingers... Time for Mereaux Op. 63 No. 38 ;)
Omg XD
쇼팽에튀드10-2랑 이곡이랑 비교했을때 어떤곡이 더 어렵다고 느끼나요?
솔직히 비슷비슷한것 같아요 ㅋㅋ😅😅
For everyone asking why people are saying Frédéric Chopin copied Carl Czerny;
This is bc Carl Czerny was born in 1791 and Frédéric Chopin was born in 1810
(Btw i might practice Chopin's Op. 10 No. 2 before Czerny's Op. 365 No. 19 lol)
Wait you can play Op. 10 No. 2? You are really better than me bro 😅😅😅
@@therealransu I'm still learning
Yep, Czerny was older but Chopin composed his Op.10 before Czerny did his 365.
Czerny also didn’t write anything remotely close to this one before Chopin.
@@pianisthenics Correct!
I'm sure it's slighter easier than the Chopin op 10 no 2 Etude without repeats but with repeats this would probably be much harder (hand cramp and stuff maybe not but I'm just guessing) I personally prefer this over Chopin op 10 no 2 (my opinion please don't hate me anyone that's reading this) but yeah nice vid and happy new year!
What is that, Mr.Chopin?
crazy compex... but you did awesome job!!!!
Great technique!!!!
I won't even get the book...too hard
Fantastic virtuoso playing. Easy peasy. Anybody can do that.....just show me where middle C is again and I'll give it my best shot..........
슈베르트 마왕도 쳐주시면 안될까요 영상 잘보고 있습니당
I almost cried 🙂 you absolutely should play for the next video Czerny Op.365 number 33 or 15 or 18 or 47, or instead Op.692 19 or 20 or 21! Por favor! please Please, please, Please
I knew I'd see a comment from you on this video lol.
Found you!
와 진짜 개쩐다 ㄹㅇ 으엉엉 깰꼼하시네여 기냥 ㅠㅠ
Czerny
is best
How long have you been playing? I'm jealous T_T
Is your left hand ok? Looks super tense
체르니 60번도 있어나요?ㅎㄷㄷ
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾 I don’t know if you’ve answered this before, but how long have you been playing?
???:It is harder than chopin's op.10-2:)
그나저나 짭레리나 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
발레리나 하위 호환
지능형 저격댓글 ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 그 스페인어 쓰시는 어떤 분 분명히 찔렸을 듯
@@DemitNWC ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
Demit ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
this is just etude number 2 from cho-
*listens*
wait a minute
손등에 독립문을 세우신 선용좌... 리스펙합니다
Czerny is the real OG.
🤔..!
@Ling Ling
Czerny came before Chopin.
@Ling Ling Not for sure
@Ling Ling fine :P
I thought I am listening to chopin Etude op.10 no.2
Lol XD
선용좌... 오늘도 지리고 가요
우와아아아
체르니좌.. 당신은 도대체 어떤 기교를 연마하신 겁니까..