Yes! Make a video about heavy bike vs light bike. But please, don't use a 9kg bike as the heavy one.. I think it would be interesting if you used a 11-12kg bike, as this would be a bike that normal people would get for their first bike.
@@CG-99 I'll do some more research, because I haven't seen a 105 sub 8kg bike as you said. And I've certainly haven't seen a sub 8kg bike for less than 2 grand (or 2.5 grand for that matter)
@@CG-99 you're describing it as "*only* 2k", and you're saying that I should leave the rich vs poor thing out of this?? But even in 2nd hand market, I think what you're describing is region specific. I haven't seen anything close to what you're describing in the local adds.
@@Agiyi you can easily buy a top spec road bike second hand that is barely 5 years old for under 3,000 that is in the ball park of UCI weight limits, so I wouldn't say only rich people.
@@movementexercisechoreograp611 did you read my conversation? You are talking about 3 THOUSAND... Three thousand. If you have 3k to spend on a your first bike, nice, good for you, but for many people 3k is an insane amount. And all I said is that it would be nice to have a comparison between a nice bike an a bike someone would actually get for their first bike. So people who don't even have a bike, in your view apparently, research UCI limits, and spend 3k on their first one.
If they can come up with something that rides as well as just air in a tyre and it eliminates all punctures AND the need to ever have to add air to the tyre again, once fitted, I'll give it a try. 😊
This is probably the second or third lightest road bike, but not the lightest. In 2010 Gunter Mai assembled a bike with the same weight of this custom Cannondale, then some guys of Fairwheel Bikes (Tucson, Arizona) bought this bike and re-assembled it pushing the limit at an incredible 2,7 kg!!! See more specs searching "the lightest road bike". I'm surprised that many cyclists didn't know this famous bike, assembled more than ten years ago. It has an estimated cost of 45.000 dolllars... only wheels (ultra-customized of course) is a 15000$ set and weight a ridiculous 500g... the frame is built by Spin, a German brand. This is the most extreme and light bike ever!!!!
I ride for exercise. I only have one light weight mtb. I ride heavy bikes always 40+ lbs. There's one exception, when the light bike comes out, I drop them immediately! I rode professionally in the 90s and trained on a 55lb bike
soon me Colnago Master (big size frame) with Campagnolo Super Record from 2011 and other carbon parts will be finished. It also has some vintage parts, not to mess up the look. It will weigh around 8,5 kg i guess. It looks astonishing and i would rather ride that than the lightweigt 3,3 kg bike in the video. Min u, the Super Record Titanium Carbon 11 speed group from 2011 weight a little below 2 kg. But, it is amazing how the owner of the 3,3 kg bike got it so less weight, with also German parts.
I'm a 100% Tubeless advocate, and I've had the Vittoria Liners on backorder for a loooong time now. But I've yet to see a Tubeless tire seal airtight on a tubeless rim. I've tried quite a few different tires on Zipp, DT, and the new Ultegra rims. Without sealant, they won't hold pressure.
Yes a video on light v not light would be good. Athos v a $5000+ 9kg + bike. Current riding a 7kg Focus Izalco Max rim brake (with pedals and cages and mounts and 50/60mm rims) Feel of light makes a difference for me.
Si on the GCN show demonstrated it very well. It's a fail-safe for when you get a puncture and the sealant doesn't do what it's supposed to do. You'd use it to cycle back to safety cautiously.
This is a rant. Justified, as I see it. Maybe it's not justified and if not then someone please help me understand it better. The foam inserts are nice. I've been using them for about a year on the road. DIY made. Vittoria's product is, IMHO, just another piece of kit to scrape every last penny from the consumer. As a whole, these companies have lost their damn minds. The profit margin is RIDICULOUS and actually insulting. I understand making a profit is the sole purpose of a business creating a product. I'm a small business owner of 18 years that employees 4-6 people depending on the time of year. I get it. BUT the insert that Vittoria sells is just a piece of foam. The tooling is cheap, interchangeable easily for different diameters, and automated. A machine shoots miles of it at a time. They've thrown it in a cheap bag and more useless cardboard packaging and strapped a wild price tag on it. The industry loves to talk about how great it is that they strive to make cycling more popular and inclusive around the world. "It's always great to see kids out there enjoying the sport." That statement sounds like such bullshit when you see they're selling a piece of foam for $60+. An honest ad slogan should be "We love attracting kids to the sport so we can use them to get their parents wallet to open up."
Lol that builder building up that light Evo fucked royally by using Cannondale’s compression plug. That shit has destroyed so many forks it’s crazy people still use them.
I’ve got the tyre foam insert, great idea, easy to put in, but a nightmare to get the tyre off when time to change the tyre. So much so they are sat in my garage and not on my bike. In my opinion they need the wheel width of mtb and not road bike wheels.
By the way, David; do you have any idea how long these air-liner inserts last? In other words; does it say on the product packaging that they must be replaced at certain intervals?
@@twatts4436 Had to laugh when I saw David pulling the inserts our of a bag inside a box, bag included to make it feel like you are getting something for your money.
Heavier bikes ride better, are cost effective and have rugged frame strength. Not wasting my money on the newest, lightest and most expensive bike products. If you want a lighter bike, get fit and loose some weight. The scale does not know the difference.
@@jussa101 In Carbon-Ti's case, it's a carbon body bonded to a teethed alloy ring. Somebody sprinted with this chainring till the ring separated from the body as there's a chemical bond that goes in between them. And basic structural physics shows two different materials bonded together will never be as strong as a single piece.
At that weight, I guess you can't confidently push hard on the pedals. Therefore you lose the main advantage of light bikes : lively responses to power inputs. The only remaining benefit would be a few second gained on steady, long climbs, on the saddle. So, no.
3.3kg Hmm, what's it like to ride? Or is it just an ornament? I doubt it would last too long on some of the potholed, gravel strewn roads were I ride.....
No way I'd ride that -for starters, the brake lever cutouts and brake cables freak me out. Let's see pro bikes all hit 6.8kg AND give years of reliable service first.
Doesn't count as the lightest bike. It's not a complete bike. Needs pedals & bar tape for a real weigh-in. Also, Darimo is a Spanish company, not German for the record. As for me, the ONLY weight that matters is my weight. I go as light on a bike as said bike can carry my weight without sacrificing quality & durability. In my case, my threshold is 6.9kg.
That bike is not complete when will they weight bikes with pedals bottle cages computer mount bar tape etc... just fooling people any way they can I get this is entertainment but some people really belive this is real 😂
Could be lighter with a 1x system 😆
Yes! Make a video about heavy bike vs light bike. But please, don't use a 9kg bike as the heavy one.. I think it would be interesting if you used a 11-12kg bike, as this would be a bike that normal people would get for their first bike.
@@CG-99 yeah, ok, make yet another video only helpful to rich people then.
@@CG-99 I'll do some more research, because I haven't seen a 105 sub 8kg bike as you said. And I've certainly haven't seen a sub 8kg bike for less than 2 grand (or 2.5 grand for that matter)
@@CG-99 you're describing it as "*only* 2k", and you're saying that I should leave the rich vs poor thing out of this??
But even in 2nd hand market, I think what you're describing is region specific. I haven't seen anything close to what you're describing in the local adds.
@@Agiyi you can easily buy a top spec road bike second hand that is barely 5 years old for under 3,000 that is in the ball park of UCI weight limits, so I wouldn't say only rich people.
@@movementexercisechoreograp611 did you read my conversation? You are talking about 3 THOUSAND... Three thousand. If you have 3k to spend on a your first bike, nice, good for you, but for many people 3k is an insane amount. And all I said is that it would be nice to have a comparison between a nice bike an a bike someone would actually get for their first bike. So people who don't even have a bike, in your view apparently, research UCI limits, and spend 3k on their first one.
Can't wait to release my 1kg road bike build. People will go nuts here.
still waiting…
Darimo is from Spain. Just put on my No22… super light. The German brand you think of is Schmolke.
6:42 Dave's first attempt at being an Animal Balloon Artist goes wrong 😁
Should I get something like this one or a Bowman?
If they can come up with something that rides as well as just air in a tyre and it eliminates all punctures AND the need to ever have to add air to the tyre again, once fitted, I'll give it a try. 😊
I’d like to see you ride a lightweight rim brake bike (like your supersix evo) vs a full on aero bike like the orbea orca aero or even a tt/tri-bike.
Fairwheel bikes built a bike for Gunter Mai that comes in at 2.7kg with pedals
Good review DAVEY 🇺🇸❗️☕️
This is probably the second or third lightest road bike, but not the lightest. In 2010 Gunter Mai assembled a bike with the same weight of this custom Cannondale, then some guys of Fairwheel Bikes (Tucson, Arizona) bought this bike and re-assembled it pushing the limit at an incredible 2,7 kg!!! See more specs searching "the lightest road bike". I'm surprised that many cyclists didn't know this famous bike, assembled more than ten years ago. It has an estimated cost of 45.000 dolllars... only wheels (ultra-customized of course) is a 15000$ set and weight a ridiculous 500g... the frame is built by Spin, a German brand. This is the most extreme and light bike ever!!!!
It can't be functional. It has to feel like spaghetti under you! I would bend a 500 gram st of wheels with my eyes before I even sat on it! Lol
Gunter Mai really rode the bike but he was very slim (6% of body fat)@@troycote4503
Look forward to your review of foam inserts. I currently have the tannus inserts in my daily commuter bike.
Tannus are awesome 😍
Lol I already knew it was going to be a Supersix Evo HM. I ended getting one for myself, my wife, and my brother too.
I commute by bike for exercise, not Strava times, so weight is good for my workout; I like my 14 kg steel bike.
I would be interested in an video comparing a lightweight bike to a normal bike on a climb.
I ride for exercise. I only have one light weight mtb. I ride heavy bikes always 40+ lbs. There's one exception, when the light bike comes out, I drop them immediately! I rode professionally in the 90s and trained on a 55lb bike
Without pedals you can’t ride it and without bar tape and bottle cages your ride would suck so that’s not really the final weight
If it's purely for hill climb events, this should do just fine.
Yes - should be weighed with pedals 😎
soon me Colnago Master (big size frame) with Campagnolo Super Record from 2011 and other carbon parts will be finished. It also has some vintage parts, not to mess up the look. It will weigh around 8,5 kg i guess. It looks astonishing and i would rather ride that than the lightweigt 3,3 kg bike in the video. Min u, the Super Record Titanium Carbon 11 speed group from 2011 weight a little below 2 kg. But, it is amazing how the owner of the 3,3 kg bike got it so less weight, with also German parts.
Definitely looking forward to updated endurance oriented bikes like the Roadmachine, the Domane, or Endurace 🤞
I second this.
Defintiely interested in a set of tubeless tire inserts.
I'm a 100% Tubeless advocate, and I've had the Vittoria Liners on backorder for a loooong time now. But I've yet to see a Tubeless tire seal airtight on a tubeless rim. I've tried quite a few different tires on Zipp, DT, and the new Ultegra rims. Without sealant, they won't hold pressure.
I have WTB Riddlers on Stan’s Valors and they hold air without sealant, though they do lose air slowly like a latex tube.
Same as Parseeker, my WTB riddlers definitely hood air without sealant on my zipp 303s rims.
@@johnwedlake5543 Interesting, if I ever need to put gravel tires on my 303 Firecrests, I'll try the Riddlers.
Yes a video on light v not light would be good. Athos v a $5000+ 9kg + bike. Current riding a 7kg Focus Izalco Max rim brake (with pedals and cages and mounts and 50/60mm rims) Feel of light makes a difference for me.
Darimo is a Spanish company. Was their a combination of Darimo and Schmolke?
Absolutely...custom vintage steel would be my choice for heavy vs. say Pinarello Dogma F😊
I need one!
What year is the frame from?
BMC teammachine r01 or FACTOR Ostro Vam?
Gunter Mai made a bike many years ago that was 2.7 kilos
What's the point of a foam liner? may as well just run tubes?
Si on the GCN show demonstrated it very well. It's a fail-safe for when you get a puncture and the sealant doesn't do what it's supposed to do. You'd use it to cycle back to safety cautiously.
Yes compare the two. I can’t wait. Compare 3.3 kilo bike to 6 kilo bike
Yes, I want to see whether weight really matters.
3seconds over 3minutes @300w
That heavy vs light bike would be cool. Be good if you could get your hands on one around 6kg, and one around 9kg or 10kg and compare.
10kg is heavy? My bike is 17kg
@@emze563 For a race bike it is.
Foam inserts, pro rider flats, keeps riding until the team car is next to them and the mechanic has everything ready for a quick wheel change.
This is a rant. Justified, as I see it. Maybe it's not justified and if not then someone please help me understand it better.
The foam inserts are nice. I've been using them for about a year on the road. DIY made. Vittoria's product is, IMHO, just another piece of kit to scrape every last penny from the consumer. As a whole, these companies have lost their damn minds. The profit margin is RIDICULOUS and actually insulting. I understand making a profit is the sole purpose of a business creating a product. I'm a small business owner of 18 years that employees 4-6 people depending on the time of year. I get it. BUT the insert that Vittoria sells is just a piece of foam. The tooling is cheap, interchangeable easily for different diameters, and automated. A machine shoots miles of it at a time. They've thrown it in a cheap bag and more useless cardboard packaging and strapped a wild price tag on it. The industry loves to talk about how great it is that they strive to make cycling more popular and inclusive around the world. "It's always great to see kids out there enjoying the sport." That statement sounds like such bullshit when you see they're selling a piece of foam for $60+. An honest ad slogan should be "We love attracting kids to the sport so we can use them to get their parents wallet to open up."
Great idea, tried to fit the road width to a gravel bike and impossible to fit, might work better on hookless rim, but for me a fitting fail
Lol that builder building up that light Evo fucked royally by using Cannondale’s compression plug. That shit has destroyed so many forks it’s crazy people still use them.
Those mountain bikes looks like they'd snap in half simply riding over a pebble.
Thank's for your video.
I think Darimo is not a German brand, it's Spanish.
Yes, Darimo is a Spanish brand. I have their handlebars, stems and seat posts on my gravel, road and MTB bikes. Great products.
What next, a bike made out of helium?
Strong sidewind and it breaks :)
OMG David must have a heart attack! the bike's got rim brakes!
Damn ! I thought my 12kg fixie was light . But then it was 60 quid second hand also plus 30 to fix up
I do hate my Vittoria airliner. Biggest pain ever to install
Currently carbon fiber components are way more energy intensive to manufacture than metal. I would love to ride it though.
I’ve got the tyre foam insert, great idea, easy to put in, but a nightmare to get the tyre off when time to change the tyre. So much so they are sat in my garage and not on my bike. In my opinion they need the wheel width of mtb and not road bike wheels.
The Atlas bike?
The one thing no one talks about when it comes to "light weight" bikes, is how light they make your wallet.
what? not disc brakes?
light...but how does it ride? Does it really matter that much?
By the way, David; do you have any idea how long these air-liner inserts last? In other words; does it say on the product packaging that they must be replaced at certain intervals?
Haven't seen any indication of being short lifetime. They're pretty expensive. It's probably like tyres, mileage may vary
@@twatts4436 Had to laugh when I saw David pulling the inserts our of a bag inside a box, bag included to make it feel like you are getting something for your money.
imagine that like a fixie bike, no brakes and no gears/speeds. how light would it become 😂
Heavier bikes ride better, are cost effective and have rugged frame strength. Not wasting my money on the newest, lightest and most expensive bike products. If you want a lighter bike, get fit and loose some weight. The scale does not know the difference.
Wrong
Literally scrolled down to find the "lose some weight" guy. Didn't take long. Although you seem to have an extra o in there.
@@Bikey_McBeardface His pants are now too loose.
What if they made super lightweight aero bike..
Darimo is not a German brand/company
I saw that light bike before and the first thing i noticed was the brakes and they looked a bit scary. Too light to be safe for an adult.
How long does a carbon fibre chainring last (including UK winter use:-)) ?
Not sure but you'd be counting in meters, not kilometres 😂
Aren't the teeth usually hardened steel
@@jussa101 In Carbon-Ti's case, it's a carbon body bonded to a teethed alloy ring. Somebody sprinted with this chainring till the ring separated from the body as there's a chemical bond that goes in between them.
And basic structural physics shows two different materials bonded together will never be as strong as a single piece.
Jeez they sanded through so many plies of carbon... less than ideal. And its just missing parts, like at least one bottle cage, bar tape and hoods.
Do a video of your Supersix evo.
What do you want to know about it?
@@davidarthur Just the full spec. Love seeing the old evos. I love mine.
Okay leave it with me
At that weight, I guess you can't confidently push hard on the pedals. Therefore you lose the main advantage of light bikes : lively responses to power inputs. The only remaining benefit would be a few second gained on steady, long climbs, on the saddle.
So, no.
@@veganpotterthevegan Hope your right.
3.3kg Hmm, what's it like to ride? Or is it just an ornament? I doubt it would last too long on some of the potholed, gravel strewn roads were I ride.....
I own this frame , black peeled off , letter s also .
no way ridable in that format - not my me anyway !
this bike is lighter than an M14/M16, sheesh'..
I thought Berk kit was light 🤔
the question is how much "counter-weight" does the human body need to get to the best performance or better how much less is too much less...
No way I'd ride that -for starters, the brake lever cutouts and brake cables freak me out. Let's see pro bikes all hit 6.8kg AND give years of reliable service first.
The fat on my stomach weighs about 5 or 6 of those bikes.
I got campylobacter once. Pretty sure I emptied myself more than 3.3kg in that day.
6.8 kg is light enough for a road bike, maybe 6.5.
No to tubeless, definitely NO to foam inserts.
Of course, the lightest bike in the world is a Cannondale ;-)
id ride it im only 140lbs
I wouldn’t trust riding that bike. The slightest gust of wind would topple over that thing!
One crash and the bike turns to ashes.
Only UA-camrs use the phrase, "Down below." Give it a try just to say, "Leave a comment," without the useless extras.
Thanks for the feedback, I guess
my bike weighs nothing because i cant afford one
At least now I can rest well knowing I am a faster cyclist than Bottas
Doesn't count as the lightest bike. It's not a complete bike. Needs pedals & bar tape for a real weigh-in. Also, Darimo is a Spanish company, not German for the record. As for me, the ONLY weight that matters is my weight. I go as light on a bike as said bike can carry my weight without sacrificing quality & durability. In my case, my threshold is 6.9kg.
Another "lightest in the world" give me a break. FYI there is a 2.7kg road bike, assembled years ago.
Italy brands don't make a good mountain bike? Wilier Urta SLR begs to differ
Darimo's not German.......
Yes , Lightweight, To carbon to steal
Crackondale
Spanish components
superlight bikes are too fragile to be useful.
That bike is not complete when will they weight bikes with pedals bottle cages computer mount bar tape etc... just fooling people any way they can
I get this is entertainment but some people really belive this is real 😂