Back pack to vehicle mount - progression idea - water fed pole window cleaning
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- Опубліковано 7 вер 2024
- Some thoughts on how to progress from back pack to more productive, higher volume working capacity by making a vehicle mount form a backpack.
This is not an ideal solution as it will cause strain on the backpack and can cause it to burn out in just a few months but even if you can get 3 months from it for a £99 backpack the increased productivity alone will more than pay for itself and then some.
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A very simple addition to this demonstration setup.
Get a few lengths or polypipie or john guest 10mm hose and a T piece joiner and build a simple Y hose so you are drawing water from two barrels at any one time
Great video Darren
Top tip there.
@@Darren-Green i know the older streamline dual tank trolleys used a similar setup. There's no reason why you couldn't deploy this method to four barrels. Once the initial priming is done you'll have more water for longer. The only draw back is you'll need four foot valve filters
@@AW-Services I think the dismantling side it would be a ball ache as you need to refill barrels when empty. Unless the barrels stay static and you use a transfer pump.
Darren, I started out with a Trolley system, not a backpack, but I rapidly found swapping bottles over every few secondsa right clat!. With a bit of thought I set up a system which uses 12 dip tubes in twelve bottle, which all feed in the trolley. Basically the 12 bottles act like a single 300 litre bunded tank. The dip tubes go from 12 down to 1 then I use the trolley as the pump and battery. I use 100m of hose on a reel with my brush. Its real easy to use and quick to work. The added bonus is I can easily remove it all from my van so I can then use my empty van for bike/ trash/ junk/ car boot...anything really, which I couldnt do if I had a tank etc permanantly fitted into my van 😁👍
What's a dip tube @bazbaz
This is actually really good advice. I've been lugging a back pack around for a year. Lol
Darren this is exactly what I’m looking for.
Argghhhh great to see you working out of a Landy..... Mine been in the garage for the last 3 weeks, new engine. I'm trying to work out how I can convert the back when. Currently switching from my grounds maintenance work to focus more on my cleaning, washing etc......great channel 👍👍👍
Sorry, that's just my run about and convenient for the video - we actually run van mounted systems from Renault Trafics
Top bloke with the best advice another great video mate
Thanks 👍
Good advice Darren mate
Thats a brilliant idea ,nice one
Awesome this is exactly what I need thank you, for the idea ❤
Glad it helped.
pretty much what I did ,after a while got a better pump ...then a better battery … then up till about 3 months ago got a tank and connected that up …. good vid bud
it is the way forward
Not bad , top tip aswell fit a non-return valve aswell this will stop air locks !!
Hi Darren can you link me to the non - return valve you mention here please? i will be temporarily using this setup until i get my tank. Thanks
Dj Darren Hardy
Pop onto eBay and put in
Non-Return valve , then pic your size off hose
Cracking set up that
Or you could have a trolley system run from outside the car. You have to rem that on each barrel change you have to release the air lock and that's on each barrel changeover. So you would need to do that outside the car. You don't need 100 metres of hose, you can use pole hose as extra and jobs that are further away from the car you can wheel the trolley nearer to it, that's the idea rather than have lots of hose extended everywhere and you would need safety signs for that. Also I have never and have never known anyone carry a backpack on their back. The 1st thing to throw away are the back straps as you would just carry the backpack to the job
Never had a safety sign in my life and trailed hoses all over for 10 years plus. Also most trolley systems are 4 to 5 times the cost of a backpack so can be prohibitive for a noob. This was not a backpack vs trolley vs whatever it was simply a demonstration as to how to become more productive. Lastly these little pumps don't tend to have 'air locks'. of course when the water is out the water is out and you will need to let all the air pass through as the new barrel of water starts to suck up but I've never had them 'air locked' as we have had on van mounts in the past.
The hose reel would be putting that little pump and battery through its paces. $250aud gets a pretty good pump around 3gpm 60psi and $90 will get a good sized battery that will run it for 2 days between charges. 👍
Guessing you're American working in $?? And you are right, this is no permanent solution, just a demo of how to evolve. Then from here £250 gets you a Genie in a box (pump and controller set up with battery) www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/genie-in-a-box---pump-box-by-the-water-genie-2277-p.asp
Great video
Need to add a swivel connector between the hose reel and back pack otherwise as you reel out from the hose it will twist and twist until it snaps.
Overall a good demo how on how to achieve the next step in WFP
A swivel would help for sure, this is just a demo though and not a day to day setup for us :)
Another great demo on how to get an easy, workable set up. Smilewindowcleaning 😊
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@Darren-Green hi m8 sorry to bother you i really need advice i have a nissan note it can hold a bit of weight i was thinking of buying a 250 litre water tank n lower the back seats and strap it down and use water genie pump n controller with 100 m hose n 25 slx do you think it be too unsafe too do ?
iv'e already brought the stuiff also n now im shitting myself that iv'e done it wrong
On eBay you can get a 100 psi pump and an 17 ah battery for about £25 for the two if you want to go really cheap but nice idea or for a spare system if your main system breaks which actually happen s more than you'd think for something so expensive 😃
Good tip, thanks for that Nathan
Great advice
Thanks Jack
Nice set up and thanks for the video.
About how much hose can that backpack push water thru with enough water pressure to clean?
I will be doing a similar set up, possibly….
Hey Darren what would you do if you round is under priced. Could you please do a video on that ta
Where's the best place to get a 12v water pump
I buy mine at The Cleaning Warehouse.
where could i get the hose reel from ?
The Cleaning Warehouse in Willenhall.
Hi Darren great video, I have not got clue with diy,so how would I go about the on/off switch reducer set up ?
How do I get get that motor and battery like that?
Call the cleaning warehouse in Willenhall.
Hey Darren thanks for the vid. I’m curious? There must be quite a flow rate drop off and pressure drop from the tiny pack pack pump through 100 metres of such small diameter hose to your brush head? Can you demonstrate your findings. Great work. 🧐
Yes but that is why I say it is not ideal. Just food for thought.
Would that little pump with the backpack be powerful enough for that much hose on the reel?
Yes, it is.
Hi Darren,
Could you please tell me the diameter & rough length of the UPVC pipe as well as the blue hose diameter and what type of strainer to attach to the bottom & the best place to get these Items from. Would appreciate your feedback.
Kind Regards,
David B.
The yellow hose is 8mm -- the blue is standard garden hose diameter. I think its 32mm. As for strainers etc all the parts in this vid you can get from thecleaningwarehouse.com in Wolverhampton. I did after all film this in their car park. :)
@@Darren-Green thanks for the information, much appreciated. :)
Hey I'm just starting out as a window cleaner been watching a few videos on water fed poles and nobody seems to be using a squeegee after they have rinsed off do you not have to with water fed poles or does it have something to do with the pure water they use?
No, it is all to do with the purity of water - pure water equals streak and spot free finish.
Darren where do you get your personalised polo tops from and with the WINDOW CLEANING on the back?
Local company, about £15 each if I recall
Hey Darren
What hose do you use on a daily basis? That looks quite light. Cheers
The hose on this reel is www.thecleaningwarehouse.co.uk/6mm-microbore-hose-100m-1051-p.asp
Darren, unsure if you used it as a back pack but is the water genie pack good? Does it stand against the gardiner back pack? Cheers mate
Water Genie backpacks are fine, we have had a few and they don't let us down they do the job just grand. We also have gardiners which we bought cause the Water Genie was out of stock one day. Remember though backpacks are not designed for working flat out 8 hours a day.
Green Pro Clean Ltd Just using the backpack as I’m new to it but the setup in the video interests me might have a go at that until I get a van mount up and running, would it work just the same if I bought a 350L tank and stuck the end in there?
@@Liammm98 Yep as long as your video can handle the extra 350kg payload of the tank.
just get a 0% rate credit card for x12 months. At bear min credit limit offered = £1,000 / x12 months = £83 per month you gotta pay without the juice being added. x10 jobs @ £10 = just x8.3 jobs or less than "a leisurely morning's work" to be RIGHT FROM THE START
As long as your credit is good enough to get one.
Why would you thumbs down this lol
Oh, don't worry, haters gonna hate as the kids would say 😉
Not a very nice comment .
What do you mean?