Warmest Hunting Socks TEST | Darn Tough, First Lite, Smartwool, Wigwam, Cabela's...
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2024
- I tested some of the most expensive hunting socks and some of the cheapest to find out what is warmest and what is worth paying for. In this review I dry tested and wet tested heavy duty winter hunting socks from Darn Tough, First Lite, Smartwool, Wigwam, Cabela's, and Lincoln Outfitters. These socks are the thermal base layers for your feet and were partly or mostly merino wool or other wool, some were boot socks and some were over the calf.
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Below are the socks I tested, or the closest modern equitant I could find:
First Lite Zero Cold Weather OTC Sock - 68% Merino Wool: firstlite.pxf....
Darn Tough Heavyweight Hunter OTC - 79% Merino Woold: amzn.to/3hXInCT
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Lincoln Outfitters Men's Big Bertha - 90% Merino Wool Foot: www.ruralking....
Smartwool Men Classic Full Cushion - 69% Merino Wool - amzn.to/3X2qIZZ
Cabela's Medium Boot Socks - 20% Wool: cabelas.xhuc.n...
This experiment didn't include late season electric heated socks, since those cannot get soaking wet. The goal is to keep your feet warm while spending as little as possible by finding out what really works. Whether you are hunting deer, ducks, geese, turkey, pheasant, waterfowl, etc, when you have super cold weather, you need extremely effective socks you can depend on.
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Thank you sir!
I'm up in Northern Minnesota and I can say your feet are the first thing to worry about as far getting uncomfortably cold.
I hunt grouse and whitetail deer when temps are below 0 F so this is a highly relevant and useful video for me.
Thanks, George!
Glad it could helpful! In those conditions I would probably start leaning towards electric socks. Even throwing hand warming packs in your boots isn't enough after a point.
Agreed, as long as my feet, hands, and head are warm I can deal with some pretty crazy sub-zero weather.
Darn tough are my favorite and I swear by them!
They are outstanding!
Been hunting my whole life (30 years old now) I appreciate you doing stuff like this for all of us hunters, experienced and not. Definitely earned a subscriber
Thank you so much!
Great test! I think you would have had better results if you put the socks spaced out in a pattern like numbers on a clock around the table. The ones that were closer together seemed to hold heat better which is probably because they where huddled together under the tarp. Keep up the great work.
Thanks!
I had the same thought, but excellent test overall. No one is doing stuff like this. I’m not super particular about my socks other than wool is king due to its insulating properties when wet.
Exactly
I'm a big fan of these tests. I'm shocked you don't have more subscribers.
Great content.
Thanks so much! I am hoping that if you build it, they will come!
I've totally switched to darn tough socks. Lifetime warranty, made in Vermont USA. Best damn socks I've ever worn. I wear there socks every day for everything.
Lifetime warranty is hard to beat! One of the other pairs I tested in this video is already wearing out after maybe 10 uses. But I use the Darn tough ones all the time and they are great.
upstate NY here, I've worn all of these brands except First Lite and Lincoln Outfitters. In 44years worth of hunting whitetails from the Southern zone in NY to the ADK'S in the Northern zone, my go to would be Darn Tough's $35 knee high boot sock which wears like steel and keeps toes warm in knee high rubber boots for dark to dark sits. In a years worth of wear other brands.... I blow out the heels. Zero or negative temps and snow on the ground for all day tree stand sits call for light weight Darn Toughs paired with the old reliable white Micky mouse boots. just my 2cents
You cannot beat the durability and warrantee on the Darn Tough socks. They are also among the most comfortable and don't sag down into your boots.
Thanks for taking your time to do this, it helps make informed decisions on keeping warm, i think thats fairly important
Hey, thanks for watching!
I think one issue with this test is that the socks on the outside of the table are going to lose more temperature because they are on the end. The ones in the middle are going to have the radiant heat from the socks next to them so they will lose heat slower.
Maybe, it's possible, but they weren't touching, and I don't think any radiant heat on the fringes would have impact on the overall.
Let's let's let's be clear a thap is no substitute for a good set of good boots 800 g 400 g ect but I enjoyed the test also check out -33 they make a good sock and just in case nobody knows about theses ( Heat Holders)🔥 this is what I use IN NYC I think these are a Superior sock to all others.IMO👍
Hot hands work great in boots!
@@TheNewHuntersGuide yes if you're going to the Sub-Zero temperatures-30 +otherwise I think that might be a little bit to warm then again you can never go wrong with boots at1200 g of thinsulate all military mouse boots all good good options✌️
KUIU's ultra merino over the calf's are THE warmest socks I've ever put on my feet and I've owned all of these brands other than Lincoln . I used the Black Friday discount to order some of their 'strong wool' this week. The Stone Glacier gray 'wool blends' are also super warm and durable. They've outlived some darn toughs if you can believe that.
Thanks! I need to look into those!
I get this is a sick test but what really matters for foot warmth is the socks ability to wick moisture and having a boot that is not to tight on the foot. Air space is critical in maintaining warmth. Interesting test though
Right on. I might try to see if I can come up with a way to do an evaporation test once the weather improves. That would be interesting to put some data to. Interesting enough, the warmest socks in this test were not the ones that wear best and do the best when walking.
Dont forget your moisture wicking sock liners! Great test sir. I have zero tolerance for being cold and my feet are always first or second thing to make me want to go home. This was a fun video to watch.
Thank you so much!!
The Darn Tough socks use extremely tightly twisted yarns, to pack more threads/fibers into a space, to up the durability. The problem with that, is that while this increases the durability, it also decreases the insulation capacity, because there is less trapped air space for a given volume/area. It is primarily the stilled air that is insulating.
To continue with my earlier comment, a thinner Darn Tough sock makes a good baselayer sock for a thicker polypropylene sock to go over. It will last longer than many other thinner merino based socks.
Another "secret" behind Darn Tough's durability is just that they tend to put more synthetic in the sock than other merino based socks, and I heard (though can't confirm" that they don't honestly list the exact fiber content/ratio, so there is even more synthetic in there than you think. Which greatly adds to their durability.
Again, they make a great first layer, thinner sock.
Thanks, I think you are correct on most of those points. Darn tough does list their fiber count and their merino percentage is 79% which is fairly high.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide What I meant is that what they list, allegedly doesn't accurately represent the exact fiber content and ratio. A guy who runs an alpaca farm etc, told me that he found out that the yarn they use has more synthetic in it, and the way they calculate the percentage of merino to synthetic is not accurate, because they count the merino-synthetic blend yarn as just "merino" and then the synthetic yarn they blend into it as the only synthetic content.
Again, I don't know how true or not this is, just relaying what I heard.
Whatever the case, they do tend to be more durable than most other socks with significant merino content. That's one of the reasons why I like them as a liner/baselayer sock.
Cheers
They are a great sock for covering ground. Maybe my favorite for hunting on the move.@@justinw1765
I've got a pile of Darn Tough, they are the bulk of my socks. One main advantage is lifetime warranty. As soon as there is a hole I send back and get another for free. I've probably gotten back under warranty close to the same number I've purchased. I take that into my financial calculation.
That is a huge point right there!
Not a hunter but I need warm socks for a cold home! Thanks for your review and no BS!
Thanks for watching! I think the higher the loft the warmer they will be. The denser the weave, the more comfortable for walking and working. It's a balance. Higher lofted wool is probably best for home.
Been a fan of Wigwam socks since the early 70s. I’ve got a drawer full of them.
Nice!
Good video. Innovative way to test the sock’s heat retention. Just a few comments based on 45 years of late season deer hunting in CT and Vermont. Most decent quality wool/wool blend socks are pretty comparable at keeping feet warm, as your test with dry socks showed. Therefore, I always placed more importance on the boots I wore than the socks. Pack boot with removable felt or Thinsulate liner was what I used for cold weather. Higher price does not necessarily mean warmer socks although it often means more durable such as Smartwool and Darn Tough, which has a lifetime warranty. Only need to buy them once. Which do you prefer to wear? I may have missed it if you mentioned. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks so much! I should have said it in the video but the Darn Tough socks wear the best, they are the most comfortable for covering ground and do not sag. Some of the others are super comfortable but they do sag or aren't as comfy after a few miles. I'm thinking more and more about heated socks for super cold hunts now lol.
I have lots of winter socks that keep me warm, but none of them stay up or last long. I just bought some Darn Tough socks, one being what you tested today. I can say they are nice. I don't think I will be disappointed. Also if Darn Tough socks made their socks thicker like these others I think the results would be very different.
Yea, the Darn Tough are one of my favorite to wear and use, especially when on the move. I'm wearing them right now even and no where near the woods lol
Excellent video, good information.
Thank you!
This was really good! Love the scientific approach! Love my Darn Toughs - they last FOREVER! I know you can't measure their durability and quality, but how do you (un-scientifically) feel about that with the socks?
Looking forward to checking your other comparisons! Many thanks!
Nothing I've used is better than the Darn Tough socks for anything that requires movement. They are the best sock out there for walking, moving, covering ground, whether its ducks, deer, pheasants, turkeys, etc. I use them more than any other sock! And they are pretty warm too.
Wow that was pretty cool. I have a hard time keeping feet warm when deer hunting. Going to check the Lincolns out.
I'm always using handwarmers in my boots to boost my staying power. But when its super cold, I think electric socks are probably the best.
I like your test. It gives us all an idea on what sock we may want to purchase however, in my experience it’s your own body and activity that regulates your foot warmth. So people’s feet sweat more than others , some people walk more . I have found that the best foot warmer is a change of socks and keep the feet dry as possible and buy Marino wool with the highest amount in the sock. Also buy knee high if you like. Knee high will help keep blood to feet warmer. My 2 cents. Hunting North Pa. 👍👍👍🇺🇸✌🏻🙏🏽😎
I totally agree. I've found nothing that helps more than putting hot hands in my boots though. Does amazing, and honestly thus far better than electric socks. More reliable and comfortable, but not quite as warm.
Im from north east pa as well. I bought 1000 grams lacrosse rubber boots I wear one normal calf high sock and my feet get so dam cold, and its because my feet are soaked when i take them off. not doing alot of walking...to my stand and back.
I have the Darn Tough, what I like about them is they don't smell that fast, can wear them a whole day or two and they don't smell at all... And they're of course warm too 😊 love them so far, but yeah pricy...
They are my favorite. They've never smelled, and they are great for covering lots of distance. They take good care of the feet after miles and miles.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide they do indeed, and they're available in Germany 😊 I cannot buy most of the socks you showed because they don't ship to Europe, Darn Tough does...
Its hard to beat then!@@Crosswalker.
Interesting, We've been trying different socks here in Washington State this year. Just testing them in the field as we hunt. We've have some very cold days here this year, colder then normal. So far, the Fox River Extreme has worked the best for me, but I do like the Darn Tough as well.
Never heard of those, I'll have to try a pair! I didn't really make this video a review, it was just a one variable test. But I think the Darn Tough socks overall are the best ones I've worn. They feel the best, wear the best, don't fall done like the others, and have guarantee. Not sure if they are the warmest anymore after this test, but if I am going to be covering any ground, they are my go-to.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide it’s always good when you find socks you can count on.! Fox River are made in Iowa, I just found them this year. I like the fit and feel plus they did a great job at keeping me warm. But we also wear Darn Tough to and I do enjoy them. Here in Western Washington we only get down in the teen or single digits maybe a week or two out of the year so it’s not a huge deal to have super warm clothing all time. I bought the High-n-Dry breathable because I didn’t need the added warmth. Either way, still enjoy your content. I started sharing your podcasts with a few hunting friends that are newer to the sport, figured they could pick up a few tips vs me taking their ears off all the time 😂
@@vaughnprecision Thank you so much sir! I really appreciate it!
Fox River. Thank you. I hunt out of skagit and dang the last chill spell made hunting very unbearable.
@@dennisswroptr4382 this years cold snap was one I haven’t seen in a while.! I’m down near Olympia, how’s hunting up north been.?
I have used 4 out of the 6 of these socks and my preference is darn tough. I’m not just looking for warmth, but also performance. How do they fit my feet? Do they slip and cause hot spots? Do they stretch out over time of use and washing? It’s tough to have all the best qualities and there is sacrifice that comes with it. I have been very satisfied with my darn tough socks and I like the fact that they will warranty them out when needed.
I couldn't agree more. This was really a 1 variable test, not a review. I should have mentioned something about that. The Darn Tough socks are hands down my favorite ones on the table. The fit the best, wear the best, and are the best to walk in. The First Lite and the Lincoln might be slightly warmer, but I still usually pick the Darn tough socks anyway, unless I'm just sitting in a deer blind all day.
I've used Darn Tough for close to six years now and never had a sock fail. No holes. No tearing. No strings. Best part is I know the day they do I can just return them and get a new pair of socks with the lifetime warranty. It used to be hard to find an honest company making products right here in the U.S. like Darn Tough but times are changing.
Darn toughs are really some of if not THE toughest socks I've owned but nowhere near the warmest.
I bought some thick socks from Walmart years ago. Probably decades ago. Around $10 a pair for off brand. Was their thickest wool sock. They work great along with 1600 gram boots till I get below the 20’s. I switch over to heavier lacrosse buck tracker boots. The upgrade to the ice kings.
Sometimes great socks can be found in unexpected places!
Woolrich, Brushtail possum socks, Happy Yak socks, Minus 33.
Thanks!
Nice video. For outdoor work, on my feet all day, I swear by Smartwool. Incredibly long lasting and maintain their form. Darn Tough are well made but I find them constricting along the calf, a bit rigid to put on. It's seems SW found the right balance between solid, long lasting construction while being soft and broken in from the start. Fox River are pretty nice too.
I've been having good success with Kuiu socks lately. They aren't the warmest, but they are really good for covering ground on active days. Well-engineered around the foot.
Rocky boot used to make socks...they were my favorite...I can't seem to find em no more...best thing to keep your toes warm....good boots n dry boots...best is to try n not let your feet get sweetie or even bring another dry pair with...the less sweaty, the more warm...
That is good advice!
BTU transfer from the outer socks will be more than the ones in the middle. Good video
Thanks. I just don't think the difference is going to be significant under the test conditions. There will always be an outside edge but I think the issue is fairly mitigated here. The tarp holds essentially no heat and there was cold dead space between all of them. It was super cold.
interesting but so many variables. As you mentioned thickness counts. Looking at the pic on the link the Darn toughs don't look very thick. Which is why they faired about the same as the Cabela's which have way less wool content but I know are pretty thick socks. Moving around though w/ feet starting to sweat the higher wool content wins.
I was on a deer reduction hunt at the Indiana Dunes where I ended up having to walk around in ankle deep water & my gortex water proof boots were no longer water proof. Although soaked. My 80% wool Red Head socks kept my feet warm. I seriously doubt the 20% wool would've done the same.
The 1st thing I do when looking at hunting socks is turn the package over & look at the wool content. Price is really 3rd after thickness or comfort.
I totally agree! The darn tough socks are the densest on the board. They have alot of material but there is less loft. They are the most comfortable to wear and walk in all day though and don't fall down. It seems for this test, loft mattered more than just about anything. The Lincolns are both super dense and high loft. But not as comfortable for covering alot of ground. Sitting all day, they are perfect though.
really enjoyed the sock test, wish you could have included KUIU socks, I have had great results with them, thanks again and keep them coming
Thanks so much Mike! I looked into KUIU socks but they seem to be more activewear vs maximum warmth for sit hunting. I still want a pair, but they didn't make it into the top priority list because they are geared towards a different kind of hunting than what I was looking for when I initially bought these socks.
great video, i have been struggling with cold feet while hunting for over 40 years, i do not find wool to be nearly as good as everyone makes it out to be for keeping warm, i have bought so many pairs of high end hunting socks over all these years and have found the non wool socks to be the warmest. my favorite pair of socks are original "heat holders", however they do tend to wear out fast and get holes but they are the warmest i have found. they are made from 91% acrylic, 5% nylon, 3% polyester, 1% elastane,
Very interesting! Have you tried any of the heated socks?
@@TheNewHuntersGuide yes, i have 2 pair of electric battery powered heated socks, but i wear knee high boots and they are a pain to turn off and on with the boots on and the power switch being down inside my boots, but they do work well when turned on, i also have a couple pair of ThermaCell heated insoles with a remote, but sometimes the remotes don't work very well to turn them on, and sometimes only one will turn on with the remote.
Have you tried any of the blue tooth ones that you control from you phone?@@yourmomma2995
@@TheNewHuntersGuide i have not tried the ThermaCell bluetooth model, as i have not been very impressed with their other models i have purchased.
Lots of other companies make them. I'll looking for a good one myself.@@yourmomma2995
Outstanding test! This is exactly why I subscribe to this channel!
Thank you so much!
Very interesting. You did a great job. 👍
Thanks Goerge.
Thanks again!
The Darn Tough socks will not get holes in them for decades but they will lose a lot of the wool that is woven into them from wear. I have some I've worn a whole lot from 2010 and still no hole. Back in the day I used to wear something called 16 oz Icelandic socks. They were unbelievable at -30 and -40.
Yea, everything wears down or out eventually. Guarantees or not. Thanks!
Amazing info! Love the content. Keep up the good work. Absolutely love it.
Thank you so much!
I have used 4 of those socks and Darn Tough are the best socks I own. But my feet sweat a lot, so I think it just sheds moisture really good. I think that is why they work best for me.
I wear the Darn Tough socks probably 4 out of 5 times, once its cold enough for them. They are just impressive socks and they stay up.
I have four of the brands, and my Darn Tough are the best in cold weather for me.
Bombas should definitely get some love in this video
Never even heard of them lol. There are lots of great sock companies out there for sure.
Hey George, just fyi, one thing about the Darn Toughs is that they are "guaranteed for life" (pretty sure you don't get that on the lesser expensive ones on the list), supposedly no questions asked. You call them, tell them you have a hole, a tear, an elastic failure and they send you a new pair. I'll be testing that. Had pair of cabelas (Cabela's Deluxe Cold-Weather Wool Boot Socks for Men over the calf $18) that developed thinnest and holes after about 10 yrs.
You are right. I should have mentioned that. This was really a 1 variable test, not a review. I should have mentioned something about that. The Darn Tough socks are hands down my favorite ones on the table. The fit the best, wear the best, and are the best to walk in. The First Lite and the Lincoln might be slightly warmer, but I still usually pick the Darn tough socks anyway, unless I'm just sitting in a deer blind all day.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide yeah, kinda hard to test such a subjective thing. I may try the Lincoln if they have it in over the calf. Have a great day!
When I purchase socks I always read the label to see how much wool is actually in them. Being on a limited budget I have been using some socks I purchased at Walmart, that look a whole lot like your top performer there, and similarly priced. I think they are about 75% wool. It surprises me to see how many expensive socks don't have all that much wool in them.
So, I've talked with sock companies, since making this video. And they tell me that the amount of wool used isn't that important as long as the wood layer is what makes contact with the skin. They say the socks can be more durable and warmer with other materials properly blended in, etc. etc. I still refuse to buy any wool socks that are not mostly wool.
I really like your reviews keep on doing great job
Thank you so much!
this test is so subjective. the Darn Tough socks are the absolute best for Western Elk hunting when you are putting on miles in steep terrain and not getting any hot spots or shifting or crumpling on the base of your feet. Very warm and great at transferring wetness as well
The Darn Tough socks are the best socks on the table for active hunting. There is no close second either. Nothing is as good as them for covering ground. I still wear them 3/4 times.
Anything below 98.6 is going to feel cold regardless, but at least you know after one hour it's not frost bite. Should have run those temp tests at body temperature rather than at 160 degrees or any other temperature. Just my thoughts, but still appreciate the efforts because my dogs always get cold outdoors
It's a fair point. Either way your dealing with an unrealistic temp range, above 100 or well below. The lower the Temps, the slower they will drop and the less dramatic the results will be. Makes the measurement margins lower. I'm planning a part 2. I'll give it some thought.
A small but important item George. Sod the gun, cartridge, jacket etc etc, socks must be the most underthought item we take into the field.
Thanks! Yes, and socks go on every hunt for every type of game. I am pondering doing a test to see which ones dry faster. Do you think that has merit or is it just too boring lol. I feel like I get excited about things that people deem too dull sometimes.
Have you used Alpaca wool socks? They say they are the warmest. Loved your videos ever thought about testing heated socks?
Thanks! I have looked into Alpaca socks but haven't found any that were a high enough % of Alpaca to justify the cost to me. At least not yet. I have used some heated socks, they were ok. But not viable for most situations. I want to get a pair that have a remote and aren't made of cotton... those are non-negotiables. Once I find some I like, I'll definitely look at experimenting with them.
I appreciate all your testing and videos. Keep it up
Thank you!
George, I find this test super interesting. Being from VT and a big fan of the darn tough brand(lifetime warranty woot woot)(after trying many others) I'm going to postulate a reason while they came in so low.
I believe that Darn Tough has superior wicking even if their heavyweight sock. I normallu run the midweight all year because of how warm them are. I'm thinking more airflow through sock made the water colder but when they're actually on a human foot, they feel warmer but not letting feet sweat and get cold. Just my .02 but you said it yourself, they are way warmer than what they showed in testing. Curious to see your thoughts!
You know, I've been thinking alot about it. The Darn Tough is the tightest woven of the socks, which is probably why its so durable, but there is less fluff to catch air and that is probably the reason. I am not sure yet if they wick better or dry faster, but I do have an idea of how to test that in the future! The Darn Tough socks are the only ones that I would give an A+ rating for wearability. They just fit the best, stay on without falling down, and are hands down the best socks to walk any distance in.
I think they are the best sock on the board, but they were not the warmest when tested like this. I'm not gonna stop using them, actually I plan to buy more lol. But I can say the First Light and the Lincoln are a warmer sock for just sitting there, nothing else factored in. But is that little extra warmth worth the decreased utility? It depends on how you hunt. The Darn Tough are also the sturdiest. I cannot see the some of the others lasting half as long.
I do have an idea to test which socks dry the fastest, I think I will do a base layer test first and if it goes well I'll try it with the socks.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide and honestly, you can't beat the warranty. Stretching, holes, ripping, send em in and get a new pair. That simple. I had the ankle height hiking weight for my groomsmen because I know how cushy they are and dress shoes suck.
I have some extremely warm wool socks with very loose weave but they slide and you sweat and I'd always take the darn toughs.
@@Drblood6721 Yup, they are the best socks going I think. For most things anyway.
great test but I agree with the guy down below- separate them a lot more. Lincoln socks being in the center may of had an advantage especially if the tarp was holding heat at it high spot.
It's possible but I don't think anything was holding heat on that frigid day. The tarp isn't at all insulating. It's just a wind break, not even close to air tight. The tolerances just aren't enough to make a difference at the scale were measuring.
@@TheNewHuntersGuidethe tarp, while thin and not very insulating will definitely hold some heat. Think of emergency space blankets…. Very similar… they definitely hod some amount of heat. Also, as others have noted, the socks in the center held heat much better than the ones on the edges. Redo your graphs from left to right and you will see the bell shaped curve that simply shows you’ve proven that socks on the edge lose heat more quickly than socks huddled together in the middle. Just like 5-6 people in sleeping bags in a tent. Folks in the middle definitely stay warmer vs those on the edges.
That isn't true though. The graphs are in order. The thicker socks with the most loft held the most heat. One of the warmest ones was on the end. @@jluhman2
In that first test, what you're essentially measuring (and getting a difference between) is the thickness of the sock. That is the primary consideration for insulation. Next would be how densely knitted or not, then average size of fibers used in the yarns (finer fibers can trap/still more air per given area), then the actual material (wool, synthetic, etc).
What I do is wear a thin alpaca-synthetic blend "baselayer" sock, and then wear a slightly oversized/slightly loose and thicker polypropylene sock over that. If they get wetted out, you can take off the PP sock, wring it out and/or whip it around and get rid of most of the water fast, and so it dries extremely fast and then goes back to insulating very well (and the actual material besides not absorbing any moisture, has one of the lowest thermal conductivity levels of clothing materials).
You can't do that with a thick Merino wool sock that gets very wet (whether from snow, rain, sweat, dunking, etc). They take awhile to dry fully, especially when truly soaked. The nice thing about merino is the odor control and that it stays somewhat warm even when wet (but only up to a point). Wet is wet, and the combo of water's 24X higher thermal conductivity than air, and the crazy amount of heat transport/movement when evaporating/vaporizing WILL severely reduce warmth, no matter what material you are wearing. So best to get rid of the water as fast as possible to limit all that.
And when you wear a thinner merino or preferably alpaca sock directly on your feet, then the polypropylene one over that, doesn't get near as stinky as it would when wearing it directly on your feet. Skin oils, dead skin, etc all contribute to the build up of synthetic odor as those stink producing microbes feast on these. The merino or alpaca acts like bit of a filter so that the synthetic has less "food" on it for the microbes, which equals less smell.
I really wish hollow core, trilobal shaped polypropylene fibers (and yarns made from same) were a thing. Socks made from this material would be very light weight and very warm for the weight. Thinner alpaca baselayer sock with thicker PP sock made out of the just former, would be the ultimate cold weather sock system.
Oh, btw, if you're going to go with merino wool over alpaca---best to go with something that has a high percentage of NuYarn merino. Definitely at least a bit better than regular merino.
Sitka has been pushing their blended merino fabric of game changing. I wish they'd make a sock of it for testing.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide There are several brands making socks with NuYarn now, and I'm sure more will be coming out in the next couple of years.
I think the least expensive I've found so far, is the Walter Sky ones, but they look on the thinner side, so would be better as a "baselayer" sock.
I'd like you to do a test the socks by where going everyday for however many pairs of socks you have and walk around in the snow with some tennis shoes on and a different pair of socks each day and document how your feet feel after that.
No test needed, I already know the results, wet, cold, and sick. Tennis shoes soak through almost instantly in snow. Nothing is going to keep anyone warm under those conditions.
You’re results work for me
Thanks!
The survival sock is about the best one out there 78% alpaca. Other than electric socks they're the only thing that really helps. And their price around 21 to $24 for a pair
i bought several pair of alpaca socks years ago, they were no better than wool for me (which isn't good), and much worse than the thick synthetic socks i have tried.
I want to try some Alpaca socks but they seem to have notoriously poor durability.
Mine are working out perfectly
How much have you worn them? Have they worn out at all? @@MrBowmanmt
@@TheNewHuntersGuideI mean I'm not doing a heck of a lot of walking in them but so far they've been pretty good I've had them two years. I mean for $24 you really can't go wrong trying them but make sure you get that brand I told you survival
Thanks for this video! Do you know which Lincoln outfitters socks these were? Going to buy some.
I have been using Redhead soaks for years. My secret has always been to wear sock liners to wick mousture
Thank you! I believe its these ones: www.ruralking.com/lincoln-outfitters-mens-big-bertha-merino-wool-sock-charcoal-l844-ch-xl-charcoal
Hey George. Have you thought about opening up your own Amazon market with your own recommendations of products? Because i think if you do you can get money back from the sales. But I might be wrong.
Such an idea never crossed my mind. But it is interesting. I'll give that some consideration. Thanks for the idea!
Darn Tough may have rated lower because of the nylon content, which is part of what makes them tough. Darn Tough also does not seem to have as much loft as others, again due to the weave to be tough.
I think its 100% the loft. The Darn tough are the best socks of the bunch to wear when active. They are the toughest and most comfortable when covering ground. I have started wearing some of the others when just seeing in the blind close to an access point. But if there is any exertion in the hunt, I still go with the Darn Tough, all the way.
Another great vid bud
Thank you so much!
Had a pair of wigwams that lasted 24 years. Bought some new ones last year, already worn out. Sad.
Wow! that was a great pair for sure.
Whether your feet sweat is important. I looked ar socks at a Rural King that had a Marino wool sign on the box. The description on the sick wrapping said Marno wool and not marino. Marno could be anything. Be careful what you get. I used Alpaca wool this fall. A little better but not worth the price.
I wouldn't surprised if it was a typo in the packaging. Then again, they could be making stuff up. I don't know. It's a bit of a discount store anyway.
Great video. Never skimp on tires, shoes, or toilet paper. Socks are part of footwear.
Thanks!
Good to know, seems like you want at least 80 percent merino wool! How has your hunting been? Any ducks? Get a deer? God bless you George and go get them in the marsh!
Thanks. Anything over 70% is pretty good. Yes sir. Got a nice deer and a bunch of ducks. Its been a good season!
I think you need more space between the socks and to eliminate the tarp covering the group. The socks on the interior of the group have a district advantage as the air around them is being warmed by the adjacent sock/warm water bottle to either side.
The tarp is not even close to tight, it was just keep the bulk of the wind off of them. If you remove the tarp then the socks with the tightest weave will have a disproportionate advantage becuase they will keep the wind out more, but on the body and in a boot that does not impact warmth as there is no wind.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide You can cover them individually if you want to eliminate wind, but placing the test samples that close together will cause the samples to influence one another through radiation. Those samples that are located between two other samples will lose heat more slowly than if they were separated, because they are receiving radiant heat from the samples on both sides. The shared covering will also facilitate heat transfer/conservation between adjacent samples via convection and reduced temperature delta between the sample and the surrounding air. The end samples are disadvantaged compared to the middle samples. You indicated yourself that you didn't trust your results. Close proximity between samples, along with the shared covering is one of the reasons. Take it from a professional thermographer. You can always validate it yourself by repeating the exact same test scenario and sample spacing with no socks at all. If your test method is valid the test would yield little to no temperature variation across all of the samples, regardless of their position.
If we want more thickness, instead of buying one thick wool sock, couldn't we just add more wool sock "layers" (more thinner wool socks)?
I also wonder if adding, say, the thinner DarnTough layers of socks to equal the thickness of the thickest sock you tested, would cause the DarnToughs layers to perform as well as the cheaper but thicker wool socks?
Well, conventional wisdom from those who study these things much deeper than I is that you are better off with 1 heavy sock and several lighter ones. Adding socks increases constriction on the foot and movement in the boot, both of which impact blood flow and overall warmth. Now that is just a rule of thumb though. I suppose if you had two very loose-fitting socks, that were loose even when stacked, with plenty of the room in the boot, there would be no downside. However, in my experience, putting one sock over another almost always increases the net tightness.
Great price on the big Bertha socks from Rural king. Any idea on sizing? Their website doesn't give any indication of what shoe sizes correlate with the M, L, and XL they offer. And they haven't responded to my inquiry yet. Wondering if the packaging with your pair had any info
I'm a size 11 in most boots and large seems to fit right. You probably just have to go with your gut, Rural King is like a cross between a hardware store, discount store, and warehouse. I'm surprised they even have a website. I don't think you'll get any meaningful response. No one there likely even knows they sell these socks, let alone anything about them.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide That's helpful. I can't say that I've ever seen a rural King store so they must not be anywhere near me. I appreciate the help!
Sure thing! @@jon27d
Lincoln outfitter socks are only20% marino according to their online ad.
Read the product listing more carefully www.ruralking.com/lincoln-outfitters-mens-big-bertha-merino-wool-sock-charcoal-l844-ch-l-charcoal, Foot:90% Merino Wool / 10% Nylon
Leg: 45% Acrylic / 40% Merino Wool / 13% Nylon / 2% Spandex Not that you can find them in stock this time of season anyway. I have noticed sometimes their information is conflicting also, its kind of a huge discount warehouse / hardware store. I'm surprised they even have a website honestly.
Interesting test. I just ordered some Alpaca socks, curious on how they will be compared to my first lite.
I want to try some! Just haven't found the right pair!
@@TheNewHuntersGuide understand, and I found this time of year many styles and sizes are out of stock.
@@fowllab Yea, this is more like a September purchase. No one has any inventory these days.
I purchased Cabelas socks for my work boots and I wore through all of them
Within a year. My feet also sweat and stay wet with those, I'm having a tough time finding socks suitable for working in a Steel Mill in 4 seasons.
I would get Darn Tough socks then, because they have a lifetime warrantee. Every time you wear through a pair, have them replaced.
You want to try KUIU ultra merino.. no better work/hunt sock imo. They're not cheap but I guarantee they're the best socks you've ever put on your feet.
Thanks I want to! I just looked them up and they are out of the ones I want, but I got on the waiting list. @@sinepari9160
@@TheNewHuntersGuide yeah black friday likely sold out.. you're gonna LOVE them!
They are on my list now!@@sinepari9160
It might be appropriate to test these starting with the temp at 98.6 (100) degrees…. I don’t think my feet ever get to 150 degrees.
That is a fair idea. These materials were not meant to hold high heat, there could be an unexpected interaction there. I'll keep that in mind for future tests.
Please tell me the name of the hat you’re wearing in this video. It’s exactly what I’ve been looking for.
That is the First Lite Tundra Beanie in Typha camo. Its real nice. I reviewed it in this video ua-cam.com/video/IMcKImURx28/v-deo.html
The only inconsistent part is the outside pairs may cool quicker
It's possible, but I think it's a long shot of a "may". There was no radiant heat to speak of and the tarp wasn't holding any air, just blocking wind. If there was any impact, I doubt it was significant enough to impact the results. Conditions were very even. It was so cold; everything had the heat sucked out of it in seconds.
For me I cant stand wool socks that have that huge thick seam across the top of the toes, its so uncomfortable. I have Smartwool, Darn Tough, and Ascend. I prefer the Darn Tough over the Smart Wools because they seem like they fit my feet tighter and they aren't owned by as big of a corporation. Bit my absolute favorite of the three is the Ascend socks because they fit really great and they are cheaper than the other two.
I didn't get into a real review in the video, but the Darn Tough socks fit me the best of everything on the board, if I have to cover any ground at all, they are the ones I want to be wearing, they stay in place and feel great.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide Exactly
Quality boots helps and room in the boots and plus how much walking or working is done in the socks. No perfect socks out there.
Yea, every boot and sock has its niche and day when it's the right tool.
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How long do they last though?
As in until they wear out or you get cold?
Using a tarp is going to keep the middle socks warmer.
The tarp blocks the wind from all the socks so they can operate as intended, it holds essentially 0 heat on a day like this.
Amazing...
Thank you! Cheers!
I can tell you, Alpacca wool is the warmest, softest, most luxurious fabric every concieved. Everything else is just a cheap ploy to take your money.
Perhaps, but is also wears out very fast when covering ground in boots, is rarely concentrated beyond 50% in a sock, and costs a lot more than most people are willing to pay. I was trying to get some one time and every $40 sock I found was only 40-50% Alpacca. That's alot when only half the material is what you want.
Where are each pair of socks manufactured?
Dunno, you'd have to look it up.
' hunting ' socks? lol how do they know if you are doing something with them on besides hunting? do they not keep your feet warm then?
Its the age of very smart socks ;)
No seriously, what qualifies you to do these tests 🤣🤣🤣. Just joking, I really like your contents George. Keep it up buddy.
Thanks so much! Really appreciate it!
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Throw some alpaca in there. Hollow, Willow Ace, pacca, Purely Alpaca, Warrior Alpaca to name a few.
So I went to order some but couldn't find any that had more than 45% Alpaca and for the price, that didn't seem to be high enough. How long do they last?
@TheNewHuntersGuide I just got mine about a month ago and I don't have any long term opinion yet. So far, they seem quite durable and long lasting but time will tell.
Also what are the warranties?
I don't remember much beyond the darn tough, they are lifetime.
Nice effort but you needed to separate them all more . The ones in the middle had a sock or het on each side !,,,,
They were are separated had no wind, and radiant heat is not really a consideration at these temperatures. I don't think more space between them would have effected the outcome in any measurable way.
I miss Readhead Lifetime Socks.
Not many lifetimes left.
Only problem with your darn tough is that those aren't their warmest sock. They make heavier socks other than their hunting ones
It's their heaviest hunting sock. That's all I know. If they make a heavier sock but don't market it to hunters then that's on them.
Came for the socks stayed for the eyebrows
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Curious how Alpaca socks fair against wool.
I looked into getting some but very few companies make a heavy hunting alpaca sock. And the best one I could find was only 40% alpaca for $35. So I couldn't justify it unless it was mostly alpaca.
You know, all these "hunting" sock reviews and products out there....if you're wearing a good quality, properly insulated boot...the sock isnt imperative. I mean, wear a good quality warm sock but if your boots are good its not rocket science. I hunt in Northern Alberta Canada in some pretty cold temps....you dont need expensive "hunting" socks....they put hunting on the packaging so they can charge three times as much.
If you are sitting, a thick wool sock is a thick wool sock. If you are moving alot, there is alot more too it. Comfort, sagging, moister management, blisters, etc.. all come into play. Better socks make a huge difference then. But in a deer stand, a thick wool sock with good boots and some hot hands thrown into your boot will do most of all that can be done.
@@TheNewHuntersGuide That's more to do with your boot choice than sock choice.
Maybe. but the socks matter more than I expected, check out my recent boot test.@@bigamigo4863
Warmer in the middle of the bunch. Test would be better if they were all separated
The socks were not touching, but I see your point!
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Are these real comments?
@@TheNewHuntersGuide I asked first.
No clue why you keep saying HUNTING socks when they’re simply COLD WEATHER socks. VERY COLD, but just cold weather, REGARDLESS of activity(besides jogging and such)
Mostly because it's a hunting channel. Thats what people are here for.
Bison socks are by far the warmest….
I'm skeptical that anything is "by far" better after all the tests I've done. But I've looked into the bison socks and never found anything more than about 45% bison. For the cost, it doesn't seem worth it for so little bison.
With all due respect, your test lacks utility, considering that socks are not solely insulators. The primary aspect of their properties relates to handling humidity.
You can't test evaporation on days when it's that cold. I'm not sure how you even engineer a test for "handling humidity" but I'm open to ideas. I did a video testing how fast Merino vs. Synthetics dry, you may find that interesting but it was base layers, not socks.
Test is flawed. If i was a sock i would have wanted to be in the middle of your line up. Socks at the perimeter were unfairly exposed.
I disagree, the non-thermally reflective tarp normalized conditions between the end and middle by negating the wind. Ambient temperature and airflow were even at all points on the test board. Any differences would be inconsequential with the scales of measurement being used. Keep in mind most of the sock was not in contact with warm bottle, it was just excess fabric, the position of which doesn't matter.
Mukluks
Heard of them, need to find some.