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Star Citizen: Hull A - First Look!
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- Опубліковано 15 сер 2024
- The first of the series, the Hull A is now in the game in PTU wave 1. Want to get a closer look? Of course you do! Check it out!
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With that interior, the Hull-A looks like a nice little runabout, even if you never haul anything with it. It's definitely an upgrade over the Mustang Beta. Stick high performance components on this thing, and it could be a very nice daily driver with the ability to pick up a big chunk of cargo when the opportunity arises.
Cost for what you get is not efficient yo purchase, but this ship gives cargo grinding a big leap.
Not sure why you'd prefer one of these over a Lancer or 400i at least as a solo player, giving how utterly at mercy they will be to attack. (And yes, I know they're more expensive - but still.)
@@shh532 Hull A is half the price of the 400i, and can carry 50% more cargo. For a roving speculator, that could be a big difference. I have a 400 and love it, but the Hull Series is filling a good niche. The small components also mean the Hull A is going to be cheaper to run and to upgrade, so there’s that. Also, easier to blend in with NPC traffic once that finally gets into the game. I doubt we’ll see many npc 400s
They've definitely improved the ship interiors over the years.
for me this really shows that the Cutlass hab module is woefully lacking. Ships like the Hull A and RAFT get full suit lockers, gun racks, bathrooms, kitchens. Hopefully when they do the Corsair they'll have some new Drake hab assets that they can use to update the Caterpillar and Cutlass.
@@redblackcoalition8778 A lot of the old ships are like that, some worse than others, like the Black, and the Constellations. Apparently they're prioritising the gold standard based on what ships are in SQ42.
I cannot say just how happy I am to see the Hull serie make it's way into the game. Not that I own one, or want to own one, but I do think it is so symbolic that we see this in-game now!
On the other hand, man, MISC really is doubling down on that phallic design :))
I remember when CIG gave a clue a week before they told us what the Hull series would be. They said think Russian Doll's. People freaked so hard for a full week because they thought we were getting a carrier lol. Man, SC development was different then.
im loving their interiors more and more. really looking forward to their doing something with the starfarer interior. really hope they revisit the starfarer post box cockpit view
As for the flight model, you've got over rated thrusters for the ship size when unloaded, it's no surprise it fly's snappy when unladen, you've got a truck's performance in something the size of a motorbike, however extended and loaded up with dead weight, it will soon bog down when cargo is attached don't you worry.
i dont blame people for not understanding this inherently as it's prettymuch a space unique problem but tiny ships moving large objects is a thing in alot of space games, where as even unloaded a large cargo ship or truck still has alot of size mass and bulk to deal with as it's overbuilt to handle the shock loading of the cargo it transports, you can't just strap a cargo container to the side of a jet ski and expect there to be no problems, that's essentially what you're doing here, it's efficient as hell and only really possible because space, the only way to go even further would be to plug a cargo box into a drive unit, and literally have it fly around like a drone itself by ai
It’s not a space unique problem though. You see similar things with cargo trucks as well. There are racing leagues for semis (both track and rally) and they are way faster than you would typically expect.
it literally flys the same with or withour cargo
Yup- when CIG finally make mass impage handling (especially cargo mass), the flight model for a lot of ships is going to have to change... and unless CIG add artificial 'limiters', some of the fastest ships in the game will be the cargo haulers.
Note that this also - potentially - works well for piracy... because dumping some cargo (and gaining a performance boost in return) works for both the hauler - trying to escape - and the pirate, who gets some cargo for minimal effort / risk.
That said, artificial limiters will be required, because unlike modern Semis etc, which rely on gearboxes geared for torque (and thus inherently limited in top speed), the thrust-curve for a thruster is unrelated to its speed, and the only relevant equation is 'A = F/M'.
As such, expect some heavy-handed artificial restrictions from CIG, to try and keep each ship in the place where they want it (ie no racing cargo ships), rather than trying to set ships up 'properly', and relying on the physics to sort things out 'realistically'.
because ships do not have mass still. It is faked. Any cargo is not physical yet so weighs nothing. Cargo refactor is supposedly coming in 3.18. So we will see what happens when the new physical cargo is put in game.
@@wazzuppoo cargo mass isn't being calculated. We shouldn't expect to see mass until after the cargo refractor
Honestly, I think the maneuverability is exactly as it should be. I think that cargo will had a disproportionately large effect on the handling.
This ship needs to come as a starter package. This is a great way to start your SC career and is viable for earning the creds to buy bigger ships ingame
This ship isn't really a direct starter. It hauls too much for a complete noob to be able to afford to load up, best to start with something like the avenger or the nomad and work your way up.
@@davidcalderwood2887 not a bad point, the new player would have to do some box missions, FPS missions, or beginner bounty missions to get the money to fill up completely for a haul. All of which could be done with this ship pretty easily. They would need to switch the disruptors for lasers to do bounties, tho. Most of which they would have to do with an Aurora anyway. So, i disagee. Still think it is a perfect starter ship
I agree, if not now at some point CIG will probably make its flight performance be hampered by its load.
@Robert P In atmo and space, mass is mass and will always effect thrust whether or not you are in atmo or not.
I'm amazed how damn good CIG is becoming with building ships! The layout looks great, with everything you'd need, and makes sense. Also looks great! Saying a lot from someone who never cared about the Hull-A.
I really bought the Hull-A only because of the attached Freelancer loaner ship. But now I really could see myself using the Hull-A in it own right. It's your every day trailer truck. :)
@@chrishieke1261 true the A is very tempting ship, i do prefer my lancer for diversity of operation ( like box delivery and fighting) but A should be a very good first buy/ rent in game
as someone whos been watching SC for a few years now, the hull a has actually made me want to get the game, i can finally live out my dream of being a space trucker full time lmao
Absolutely! I recommend getting an Aurora starter package and upgrading it to this ship when you get the chance. You could totally use this ship to buy the rest of the ships you want with ingame credits
@@JamestheKilljoy legit doing that today lmao, already have the aurora mr tabbed and ready to go, just waiting on a skyrim modpack do download and then buying it while i play skyrim stealth archer for the 1 millionth time
@@02nightowl lol nice. I need to mod Skyrim again. I miss that game
@@02nightowl get keen for the cargo refactor and the Hull C next patch. that'll revolutionise the game
Mhmm, I got into star citizen cause I loved the idea of the Hull D - a massive external cargo hauler, but not QUITE the biggest, heh. In the end, I don't have a Hull D and I'll probably never get one, but... I have an A2, a 325A and a BMM, so I'll be fine.
Hull A nimble, Hull A Quick, Hull A flew over the candlestick.
Hull b simple, Hull b thicc, Hull b going to pyro to hit a lick!
@@marshalllaw4u Coming in Patch 4.20 lol
It's the same as a semi truck I would think. Run it bobtail with no trailer and it's actually pretty quick. Massive engine and 18 gears for a small cab. Put a 53' trailer on it and increase the total weight to 80,000 pounds and it becomes slow and has to make wide turns.
The design team is so much better, I hope for good things when the Reliant goes through gold pass.
That's a great little ship. No issues that would immediately stand out. Good job CIG!
MISC is becoming the most important manufacturer in the game. With solutions from mining to refueling and refining, exploration and even the entire heavy transport line under their belt. The only thing they don't seem to be doing is personal transport or military grade ships (although the Gemini is a military variant).
I can image the Haul B will have an almost the same interior as it is also a 1 person ship just larger exterior. nice vid
Cool little ship! I can’t wait for my Hull D. That gameplay loop is going to be awesome!
I can hardly wait for the PTU to start letting us spawn our ships so we can get in and test the ship hauling cargo. Nice video. I had to use ACFF to check mine out also.
Seems to be a solid little addition to the game's roster and bodes well for the larger versions to come. I have one of these in my buyback I think; I may just pick it up again next week to gift to a friend who just started playing.
Wow. I think it's the first MISC ship that feels comfy on the inside. Food dispenser and awkwardly big bathroom aside, it has everything you might need as a space trucker.
Wish the Freelancer would get a updated interior. Doesnt even have a gunrack but the Hull A does lol! Hull A looks amazing inside. Wish they take some if its design and transfer over to Freelancer.
The Freelancer has a handful of problems. It's a small ship, yet has seats and beds for 4 crewmembers. A crew of two would be fitting for that type of ship. Another thing is the second cargo hold ... how do the SCU containers fit through the small access door to the main cargo hold? But the overall hull is sound. One could add 4 passenger seats in the second cargo hold, swap out two of the bunk beds and install a small kitchen area with a small table and two seats. Make it a bit more liveable.
@@chrishieke1261 exactly and also get rid of the man turret and make it a remote turret instead to add a little bit more cargo also.
My biggest gripe with my freelancer MIS is that the middle room (the one with the autoloading missile rack) is not pressurised. walked through my ship while in space with my suit off and died in the middle because of it lmao
freelancer and constellation series are some of the oldest models in game. They will get their gold pass eventually, but CIG cannot rework every ship each time they implement a new ship design technique, and they are much more interested in selling new ship concepts. I am glad most of my ships are new ships. Tana being my oldest from 2019. Inferno was recent but being my only ship without an interior, it doesn't matter about light switches and refrigerators and stuff. Corsair will be coming soon so will be the most up to date DRAKE ship out there. I mean it is the first new DRAKE ship to come along in many years. Now we may be getting a bunch of DRAKE shortly. Corsair, Vulture, Mule.
Very interesting little ship.
Freelancer and Starfarer need this level of attention.
I was not expecting the Hull A to actually be a liveable ship, that is a nice bathroom.
I think the Weapons Locker makes sense, cause out of all the ships. Which is most likely to be attacked and boarded? The Haulers with Cargo. And other ships like the Freelance have very big and scary guns. But this ship is mostly harmless. So Pirates can easily come in and Board the Ship. And the Crew, You, will most likely be Defending the Ship yourself, with your own weapons. And thus need a locker to store those weapons.
Always loved the misc design and I'm glad to say nothing has changed
Yay, it's here. Thanks for the quick look at this ship. (Edit to add:) The Hull C will be next in series but I'm curious when more info about Hull B will be available. It might be a nice middle ground for a mostly solo cargo pilot.
Love it so much. Cant wait to see my Hull D :)
Just a thought. The "long guns" don't necessarily need to be weapons. I would absolutely carry some shoulder held tractor beams on this little Hull-er.
This means they have solved the issues they were having with overlapping physics grids and getting the collapsing animations to work properly. Expect to see a Hull C in game by Christmas.
I’m so glad I melted my Freelancer for one of these. I’m not necessarily looking to be a hauler, but I think it’ll have a spot in my fleet for everything from moving looted weapons/armor around to delivering refined ore to the nearest LZ.
Cargo will probably impact its maneuverability. Extending the cargo area would not. The ship has a set mass which doesn’t change when extended or retracted, so it should fly just as nimble or maybe even more nimble with the extension out because the gimbaled thrusters are further apart increasing rotational potential. When you add cargo it all gets heavier so more thrust is needed to change the mass+velocity.
Expect the ship to be able to point its nose where you want it to go, but at a high velocity it will not have much supporting power to the maneuvering thrusters to compensate the forward thrust of the main engine holding your current direction for longer amounts of time. When going at cruise speeds you should be able to point the nose somewhere but having the actual directional change be slightly delayed. At higher speeds you probably want to try and fly the ship in straight lines and while moving in one direction point your nose to the direction you want to go in and full boost that way to make that your new straight line.
Fuel efficiency will be a factor to take into account because it affects how profitable your haul is, you wanna decouple as much as possible and turn and burn to come to full stops. Like a space truck should.
I can see this being a beauty to fly and now I am sad that I don’t have one. Would rather have the B or C though, they sound more challenging but all the more profitable.
Looking good. Should be a good template for the others.
Good looking little ship, will be a great upgrade in game for entry level cargo haulers looking to get rid of their Aurora. For me I'll stick with my RAFT though.
Consider the possibility that's its nimbleness is due to it not having any cargo on it and the thrusters are sized appropriately for a fully laden ship. Remove the cargo, mass goes down and it becomes very maneuverable.
oh wow, the misc interiors look so much better. really looking forward to the freelancer getting this
Looking forward to them finishing the game.
thx for the first view; the interiors do look very detailed and sufficient; even a bit too elaborate for such a "small" vessel; coming to the only rly critique, you saying the Hull A "holds a significant amount of cargo", which it just doesn't with currently 48, imo; it holds only a couple more SCU than a cutty black and coming back to the elaborate interior, it just won't be used ingame for long hauls, due to cargo size limitations; as a rolegamer in rl, I do appreciate the place it holds in the verse as a "single person trucker" vehicle, for a trader, always just scraping by in his/her Hull A doing any job coming available; then the full kitchen/shower setup seems apropiate, but ingame I guess it won't get much traction, especially, since the Hull B is still reasonably priced and holds (for now^^) 384 SCU; but thx again for the detailed first view, very interesting!
Compared to equivalent sized ships, it contains a significant amount of cargo (note that 'significant amount' doesn't have to mean 'significantly more than any other ship)... and it's not meant for bulk haulage between systems - that would be what its bigger brethren are for.
Separately, don't forget that NPCs will be using the same ships that we do - so expect to see a lot of these flying around - whether by players or NPCs - especially for 'local' cargo transfers (when a Hull E comes in and drops off multiple-hundred / thousand crates, gonna need a lot of smaller haulers to then deliver those crates to their final destination).
IIRC, the Hull A is about 4m longer than an Aurora (folded, I'm sure). So its cargo capacity is actually very impressive (I read on Reddit that it's actually 64 SCU and not 48).
That zipper effect on the bottom of the front window is actually hard to look at
Cool to see! Any progress is good 👍 progress to me.
This line of ships is the ones I most wanted to try, space trucker.
Good to know that Sriracha exists in the SC universe.
Looks good to me STLYoungblood. Hulls will be solid ships and CIG did a nice job here. After seeing and flying the Hull-A, I would love to see the Freelancers get an improved and updated cockpit design. They need visibility more than the Hulls, and really suck currently.
You say it looks more nuimble than it should, but you're forgetting this is a ship intended to carry weight and it needs to be able to maneuver with that weight. ALL the hulls will perform significantly better without cargo than with.
I may be the minority here but this is why I like MISC ships. They're a no frills manufacturer but doesn't do things on the cheap just to make an extra buck. I'm glad their gettin' their time in the sun now.
Weapons locker will also hold tractor beam gun and rifle to load and unload your cargo
I think the turrets on those freighters are meant for self-defense against debris, asteroids and small marauder craft. We just have to get to a point in the game development, where these hazards can actually be destroyed.
I think the weapon rack may also be useful for the storing upcoming larger tools like standalone salvage tool wich might require a main weapon slot... hopefully other ships like the prospector might get them racks later...
weapons locker does work the button is just offset to the left
I think maneuvering for being unladen is fine. When the box physics are active, it'll be much more sluggish.
Nice inside design. Wasn't expecting that good
At 7:50, I'd expect the acceleration and maneuverability to be very good... but only because it isn't laden with cargo...once loaded it should be sluggish.
I think the Hull series is a wait and see with the cargo refactor. If you have to unload yourself and something you need is buried how hard will it be to get and how time consuming. People will say plan things out, but there will always be mistakes. It is like CIG is splitting shipping up into two segments. Carry more but hard to unload, and easy to unload but carries less. For me it looks like easy is the way I would go. Raft, Railen and BMM. I also have a Hull A and C though to see how things play out.
They already stated that the Hull series will be the most convenient to unload..
Interior reminds me of the old Mustaang Beta !
Now that's a proper interior. Now they need to fix the Freelancers!
Unloaded it should handle about 2.5x better than loaded by power requirements... remember this is a tiny-place cargo catcher that can weave its way into a blown-open ship and directly snatch cargo from inside. The B should be capable of even more capacity.
Cool little ship.
Been trying to get in and look at it, cute little ship
Thank you.
Honestly, the Hull A is a great little design, I still think it's going to be a great starter for people who want to do cargo-hauling at a level that is competitive with the Nomad
Cool; couldn't get to mine yet with all the PTU issues, ship never appeared when I was actually able to get to a hangar lol; should tuck nicely into the side of the 890J hangar and similar on the Odyssey and Polaris (as a restock ship)
Nice overview, thanks
i do think they are going to change the hualing into two differnet catagorie, crates and containers, so crago ships like the C2, freelancer, will do runs from outposts, and the hulls and raft, move containers from cities, each with their own cargo and slightly differnet gameplay
Not really... there's no difference between 'crates' and 'cargo'... rather, based on what CIG have said in the past, the difference will be between 'trading' (buying stuff yourself, with the intent to sell for a profit elsewhere), and 'hauling' (being paid a fixed price to carry someone elses stuff). Plus larger ships will focus on routes between space stations (and rarely / never going down to the planet surface laden), whilst smaller ships will either do high-speed high-value runs, or 'local' stuff between planets and stations.
@@logicalChimp i was more going off that we know there is the whole cargo rework soon, but those sorts of containers require a area for loading and unloading for example a ship yards, so i just see them more like the big container ships irl, where as the ships that can load boxes can do so with forklifs so would be more like lorries which would suit the more going down to outposts
I own a Hull-B. I wonder if I'll get a Hull-A as a loaner.
You should, loaners are changed all the time to reflect the latest additions.
I have a Hull C and can't wait
Imagine hiting escape button in your sleep haha
The thrusters need to be adjusted for all ships in 3.17 PTU. The C2 flies right now like it has no mass, so the Hull A being nibble (like you mention) will change. I'm waiting on my Hull C also
Man I can't wait for my Hull-E now though
I cant wait for CIG to start reworking the old ships. Starfarer, 600i and alike really need a rework. CIG learned a lot over the years so Im sure all those SC Oldtimers will be enhanced once CIG decides to put some time and effort into them once again.
Guppy, the space guppy
IT WAS ABOUT TIME!!!!
Not usually a cargo guy. But I like this I think I will most definitely be getting one in game :)
I am not sure it should fly badly. It is a tiny ship and has thruster strength necessary for being fully loaded. When empty it is the size of an aurora, so it should not fly any worse, and without cargo, I would actually say it should fly better than an aurora.
Wiash they were bringing them in alphabetically so the B would be next, but looks like I will be waiting for my hauler till next year probably. All that is on the tracker is VCA team at end of year for concept art.
Nice ship!
That whole ship series is boom pinatas
cool. first time I've seen the ship with no cargo
The interior of this ship give me hope for my freelancer.
Indeed
I think you should separate the ship into anatomical systems, like a human anatomy... that way you can customize ships more simply and maintain logic/immersion.
Like a fuselage would be one, a powerplant another, then weapons systems connect to that, as do navigation and AI systems, life support, hydraulics, food?
Etc.
And there are many many different logical technologies that fall within each of those categories....
So no 2 ships would be the same...
Love the video
Thanks STL! No mention of actual cargo capacity, or comparisons of other similar sized haulers capabilities?
This interior shows exactly how badly the freelancer needs a rework
cool ship,and full of cargo the agility will drop
It wouldn't be a spaceship if you weren't waffle stomping your fudge logs in spaaaaaace.
I have the hull A but it's extremely slow trying to get out of Atmospheres. At best, climbing out of Microtech takes forever. Max speed is about 100knots and takes at least 7-10 minutes to clear the atmos.
I am curious about how the cargo gets loaded without the cargo refractor, will the spindle magically open with the cargo attached to it?
In the ICS Videos the grid is loaded with basic 1SCU boxes instead of containers
Iirc CIG have said that, pending the cargo refactor, the cargo plates will work the same as the interior cargo grids on ships currently - when you buy from a trade terminal, stuff will just 'magically appear' on the cargo grid. And yes, I expect that will cause the ship to expand and unfold the cargo plates when you start to buy cargo.
I am really getting excited to try out my Hull A once the PU patch drops. The MISC design comes out really well and if it costs and claims like a starter the Hull could pretty much become one of my to go ships for non combat evenings.
The only thing i dont understand are those lower cockpit windows. They seem completely pointless
The living quarters would need a window
Decent entry lvl hauler but i wonder how much use the guns with low dps and the escape pod with low hp will be, i got my eye on hull B atm
Cutlas Black ?Valkirie? carrack? they are have weapon lockers
These days im more in a bad mood toward star citizen but dawm it looks so good. Everytime i see this game sometimes its as real as a movie shot.
Yeah, you're a toxic little lad. Just be patient like a normal adult, chappie. The game will come out when it comes out, and it WILL come out; in the meantime, stop being so emotional
You should just get over yourself, CiG employees are just people they don't have magic wands and they don't fuck with you just for laughs. They're also not your personal whipping boys when you don't get your own way.
We didnt back your game, we backed theirs, deal with it
It has to be nimble unloaded if it's going to maneuver at all with cargo . .
Great video thank you. It makes me laugh; the Hull A has better habitation than the Prospector !! Poor Prospector ! Well, actually, Hull A has better interior than quite a few things *sad sigh*
Are we going to be able to use the Hull A *right now* for cargo hauling, or is it only really possible when refactor is done?
I am sure they said that initially cargo will just 'appear' on the ship the same as with other ships.
detailed kitchen. now, they just need persistent dishes and a dishwasher!
7:36....
Uh oh don't say that too loud ...
NERFING CIG WILL FIX THAT, LOL 😂😂😂
how do you transform the ship with a keybind?
It has the ability to hold more weapons than the four crew gunboat Constellation. :( That needs a refresh so badly.
Think it will be the loaner for the Hull-C?
freelancer needs an update to be brought more in line with this >_>
First i thought it was anakins lightsaber in the thumbnail...😅
How can I get a starter package to play the game without spending my life earnings?
How is the flight model with the desync fix?
Now here's the question, why is this better than a freelancer? Freelancer has 2 size 2 shields and 4 size 3 guns and a turret, and can carry the same amount of cargo. This ship has 1 size 1 shield,2 small guns and no turret. The cargo is also stored externally. The only advantage here is load and unload speed, but will that matter if you need an escort? Not sure i get this one honestly, since the freelancer max is also a thing and the argo raft, the hull a is kinda underwhelming. If the raft had held 1 more 32scu container putting it at 138 scu, and the hull a holding 1 more 16scu container putting it at 80scu i think this would have made more sense. It remains to be seen how much loading and unloading will affect us though so we will see.
100% i would take the lancer every time the in game cost better be half the cost of the lancer to even think about using it.
This thing needs 100 SCU