Reacting to Tierzoo's Dinosaur Tier List- A Low-Tier Tier List
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
- A couple of years ago, the popular zoology channel, Tierzoo, made a ranking of different types of dinosaurs. Since then, I've been asked to react to his analysis. Well, here it is! #dinosaurs #paleontology
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Btw, I'm not implying that any of those herbivores in the memes were STRICTLY herbivorous. Many mainly herbivorous animals will supplement their diets from time to time with meat. But point being that Therizinosaurids were not the only theropods to adapt to be herbivorous.
Might you try making your own tierlist?
With Prehistoric planet footage
There is limusaurus and elaphrosaurus tho
Ratites and Geese!
@@m1sty033Elaphrosaurus doesn't have a skull, but it being a herbivore seems plausible. Also, Berthasaura.
A marine biologist also reacted to this guy and claimed that he really misses the point of evolutionary niches and only focuses on how big, fast or scary the animal is.
Are you talking about avnj?(he’s an ichthyologist by the way)If you are, than I’d say that he somewhat agreed with most of the picks, but felt that some of the picks missed the point.
Avnj
@@Soul_evacuated_Ian I think people in general miss the point of these videos. They're ranked in a way like in a video game.
@@ManSpider92 even then it can feel a bit silly at times cause that leads to the question of ‘well small and tenacious players can just gank the largest beasts’ I personally dislike it cause it isn’t my cup of tea and he loves to miss key points for stuff like why losing a tail is advantageous
@Spider-Man Then don't call yourself an educational channel.
The fast running small to mid-size ornithopod forms evolved multiple times throughout the Mesozoic and persisted to the very end of the era. I say this body form was highly efficient and not a low tier trash at all.
They were above S tier. They were some of the most diverse and common dinosaurs of all.
Like thescolosaurus
Tbh there shouldn’t have been a F tier for this ranking cause NONE of these creatures are deserving of it! The only creature in my opinion who should’ve been ranked last and which he did get right was coelophysis cause compared to everything else it was the most primitive out of the bunch and was likely not as efficient as the other predators in the list.
@@No_name8374 that's what I'm saying
@@areallyshortbrontothere that’s what we’re all saying lmao xD
I've heard that Tier Zoo is planning on making a remake of this tier list, with more dinosaur builds, more up-to-date information and a better placement, so let's wait :)
Did he himself ever mention that he's making a remake?
Part of me rather he stick to modern day animals since that's where the format can apply in a slightly more concrete way.
@@akshatyadav8434 No, but he hearted a bunch of comments talking about the problems with the tier list or asking for a remake.
Im not sure but ok i guess
Everyone hearts positive comments
TierZoo 70 million years in the future: "Next up in D teir we have the North American Bison. There's not much to say here because their game plan is simple; see predator and run away. they could take a hit or two but were defenceless against most predators."
Ironically he actually considers bison pretty high-tier. Talk about double standards.
@@bkjeong4302that's because you can actually see the animal defend itself irl, the reason why most people look at Hadrosaurs and to an extent Sauropods as defenseless weaklings is because most paleomedia portrayal have lead to that being the most prominent trait of theirs
"Most predators" aren't twice the bison's size, unlike the dryosaurus or kamptosaurus, which got bodied left and right by theropod monsters. That's the key thing to note; how do these animals stack up AGAINST their predators? Can a dryosaur bite an allosaurus' arm off? No. Can a bison send a wolf flying with its horns? Absolutely! That's something Tierzoo keeps in mind. How hard do these herbivores make it for their predators to kill them? With 0 offensive capabilities, you'll be a sitting duck. Dryosaurus and kamptosaurus were sitting ducks to allosaurus; meanwhile, iguanodons were bigger and therefore tankier against allosaurus' attacks. (Also, the reason I keep mentioning allosaurus, is because that's the apex predator of its time, therefore, the threat the "players" have to worry about most)
@@potitishogun2961997
The problem is that Tierzoo also applies this to ornithopods that are significantly larger than their predators and has even said hadrosaurs would be easy prey for big cats and wolves less than 1/30th their size.
@@bkjeong4302 I mean, what can hadrosaurs do..? How can they defend themselves? They were easy prey for dromeosaurs as well, which were also a thirtieth of hadrosaurus' size... I think the logic still applies
Tierzoo tends to rank modern animals depending on a mix of how well they do fighting other animals, how much babies they have per lifespan, and how frequently their young survives into adulthood.
By those same metrics, sauropods should be a bit lower and hadrosaurs should be a lot higher.
Yeah that’s my main problem is it’s really unclear why certain creatures are ranked how they are.
By that logic turtles should be low-tier trash coz 99% of their babies get massacred by seagulls on their first day alive.
This was one tier zoo’s earlier vids and he usually does modern animals so I can forgive him for this video. But Tyrannosaurus Rex and other large Tyrannosaurs being b-tier is a crime.
I remember from one of tier zoos first videos where he said t.rex is s tier where he should be
The problem with this tier list and many of tier zoos videos is that he tries to balance the tier list but uses only the most popular animals and so he feels the urge to put many animals lower in the tier list than they should be
This is especially problematic here where he is dealing with a time period of nearly 170 million years so basically all notable dinosaurs should be A tier at minimum simply because of the fact that if we have enough material now to consider them note worthy, that means they were probably pretty dominant back when they were alive
@@Geographyandhistory2024Oh yeah didn't avnj talk about this
Not to mention buying into the Allosaurus hatchet attack theory, something that's been disproved like half a dozen times in the last two decades.
I'm also a fan and he is (mostly) oriented towards teaching moderate level biology to the masses
Not very good if he's spreading outdated or misinformation.
@youtuber user, it works pretty well. You get the information while making it fun for younger audiences.
@youtuber user, it works pretty well. You get the information while making it fun for younger audiences.
@youtuber user, it works pretty well. You get the information while making it fun for younger audiences.
@youtuber user, it works pretty well. You get the information while making it fun for younger audiences.
Tierzoo when ranking charcara: “also one of the bulkier theropods”
Tyrannosaurus, the bulkiest theropod: *cries in B tier*
Also proceeds to forget about giga. Which really does show how much research goes into these videos 💀
@@No_name8374giga way less bulky than rex
@@No_name8374 you want him to include every dinosaur to ever exist?
@@dankmouse632 fanboy alert,dude he made a mistake it needs to be called out,giga and rex are the main ones but he choose the least bulky of them to say its bulky
@@toniotrussardi8126 my point is that there are many MANY popular dinosaurs and including all of them in a list is gonna be hella tedious, especially for one guy. If he got facts wrong, sure, call him out, but claiming that not including popular dinosaur #37 is a mistake is silly
I'm still waiting for the Allosaurus hatchet bite paleo myths video
Also great reaction
Good vid, glad a person who did more research watched tierzoo and understood his rating system and his place in zoology and other discussions. His vids are mostly entertainment but can still spark people to learn more for themselves
Yeah I also had a problem with spinosaurus, it didn't need to fight, it was adapted for it's environment, it's like putting herons in F tier because it can't fight, when in reality they are extremely common and simply eat fish, no need to actually fight
thats actually a good build. They get to live a simple life of eating fish and chilling out without any real threats. That's the best life you could possibly ask for as an animal. a peaceful existence.
Might be wrong on this, I feel like against mid size preds, they would get intimidated by the long, pointy beak. Because who would want to get pecked or potentially stabbed by something like that? By this logic, it would stand that not many animals would want to take on a Spino. I mean, would we?
Also the sail may have been used to look bigger and intimidate large carnivores to avoid combat
It’s issue is that it is super specialized and unadaptable. As soon as it’s niche dried up, it died out.
@@DJSpike-ft9yw yes, but specialization isn't bad, and often times specialized animals take a over a ecosystem because they are simply too built for it. Sure if their ecosystem fails they will too, but that still gives them around 5-10 million years on average. Specialization shouldn't get a automatic F, and that's why tier zoos videos are lame, he doesn't ever look at how the animals are actually doing, he just look at the traits he doesn't like and bases them solely on that
TierZoo: “Wasting your time nipping and scratching at prey with sharp teeth and claws, while having to wait hours for them to bleed out and giving them a chance to fight back, is far more efficient than completely crushing prey to death in seconds with a single bite.”
This is why this tier list makes NO SENSE!!?!? It’s not ranked on survivalblity but also not ranked on power either!? Make up ur mind tier zoo!!!!!
@@No_name8374 I don’t get it with TierZoo either.
ignoring one crucial factor : tyrannosaurus had an enviroement with preys that where either armored or had strategies to survive ,
so it had to end the prey quickly before it could wound it with horns or run away ,
charcarodontosaurus had large sauropods as it's main preys , so direct confrontation was straight up impossible , so yeah hit and run it was ...
it's almost like it's hard to compare two different predators adapted for two different enviroments ...
@@davidegaruti2582 Valid👍
@@mustachetwirler7617animals that kill through bleeding dont just bite a prey and wait hours hoping for the prey to collapse, but instead are active predators, and for the carcharodontosaurids niche of hunting large sauropods, bleeding out prey was far better then crushing bone.
the wrath i feel when someone states hadrosaurs were defenseless or just ran away & got eaten is unbelievable
Yeah just wait until those people find out about the literal sauropod sized hadrosaur shantongasaurs!!!!
Exactly! X-rex (I think that’s the name of that Edmontosaurus specimen) could likely just stomp on and absolutely CRUSH a part of a t-rex if it needed to! (I sound like a serial killer now)
Well, most hadrosaurs likely did ran away, Shanty, Para and Edmonto are exceptionally large, and even they would wary first and fight when necessary.
Hadrosaurs ARE POWERFUL!
@@darkonyx6995the implication that the predatory theropods went in head first, not considering the Hadrosaurs challenging prey is an equally dumb notion
It is important to note that pretty much ANY animal in ANY given timeframe that fits into its ecological niche and is not heading towards natural extinction will always be considered S Tier if you rate based on ecological stability.
His tier lists are based on, if real life was a video game, how powerful AND FUN an animal would be to play.
There are games like the isle for example and of which it’s a Dino survival game. But we’re gonna completely ignore that fact because I call bull! If the ranking was really based on power and how fun a creature is to play! All intelligent facts on how said creature is bad or good goes right out of the window and if the tier list was based on power Rex trike stego and hadrosaurs should’ve ALL been A or S!
@@No_name8374 it's not scientific or supposed to be perfect
@@TheDinosaurianStudios so it’s supposedly to be flawed then?
@@No_name8374 It's entertainment calm down
@@TheDinosaurianStudios point?
Tierzoo seems to have a preference towards sauropods. In his tier list for cryptids, he put mokele-mbembe (a cryptid strongly implied to have been based on a sauropod) in S-tier and sounded pretty angry about sauropods being extinct.
I mean, yeah, they’re gigantic.
And?
Most sauropods would be S tier anyway
He’s kinda right tho. Sauropods were pretty damn op. Basically untouchable because of their massive size, very good at foraging due to their long neck, and dominated most of the planet from the middle Triassic all the way to the end of the Cretaceous. They were so op that just their footprints were enough to kill multiple small unfortunate dinosaurs.
Sauropods op pls nerf
@@shagarumedic dude they have been banned already, what nerf?
He doesn't understand the hadrosaurs strength
Their only possible form of defense is size. Even that would backfire. Only sauropods would've been able to use purely size as deterrence, and your average hadrosaur didn't have enough
@@ILaunchNukes Even tail slapping?
@Jeffrey Gao their tails would have little effect against bigger carnivores.
@Jeffrey Gao only the absolute largest like Shantungosaurus would've been able to effectively use their tails.
@@ILaunchNukes Hadrosaurs are POWERFUL!
Low tier hadrosaurs... that makes me sick
Unironically, Tierzoo did the video because he was shilling for all the (mind you, decades old) documentaries despite being a channel that forms himself around education. Since the docs presented were from Curiosity Stream. Many problems exist such as...
-Ceratopsians being solitary
-Everything about Troodon and the fact that Troodon was included, it was a nomen nudum in 2017 and likely was not some insanely intelligent animal or dinosaur.
-Carcharodontosaurid arms were likely more specific and less functional than Tyrannosaurid arms funnily enough.
-Defenseless hadrosaurs paleomeme
-Hatchet bite allo
-Scavenger rex
-"Useless" rex arms
-Generally just slapping pack hunting onto theropods where its very questionable to say even any of them had it.
-Dromaeosaur killing claw slashing
Hey, could you elaborate on the Carcharodontosaurid arm being less function than T. rexe's? That got me curious.
@@pequenotamandua5712 IIRC, their arms were not very flexible or motionable from a study on Acrocanthosaurus specifically. They were still a group of animals that killed their prey by biting and probably did not rely on their arms no more than t.rex relied on its arms. (both groups still likely used them, though they were still not their main gameplan)
I love tierzoo on how he uses videogame language to describe biology concepts. Like mega-extinction events are game/server updates xD It is a great channel in my opinion
T-Rex's eyesight is so good, it's even more OP than it's bite (which is outranked by Megalodon)
Megalodon is just a ocean Rex lol
Thank god todays video didn’t subject us to more allo hatchet theory’s lol
Edit: me at 18:13 💀
I don't understand why people take TierZoo so seriously. As you said, it is just a way funny way of conveying information about animals, he isn't literally saying "Animal D sucks and Animal A is the best animal ever".
Speak for yourself
@@mhdfrb9971 yeah... that is what I am doing...?
I mean- he literally calls himself an educational channel
In another dinosaur tier list that TierZoo starred in (by the channel Recreyo) he stated that Ceratosaurus means "serrated lizard" because of its serrated teeth. So that should go to show how much research he put into this.
Yeah he also stated in that video he doesn’t know much about dinosaurs.. and of which how dare you come in are community and don’t do any research!! And spread false information!!!
My gosh so stupid
Dinosaur fans try not to start beef challenge (impossible)
he’s trying to get people interested in animals by doing something creative, not do a lecture on certain species for long time dino fans (this includes me, dinosaurs are epic 👌) if he made an inaccuracy, no need to be nasty about it
@@No_name8374 you say that like he just came in and maliciously lied while knowing zero, chill
@@dankmouse632 so we cant call out mistakes bc its mean? fuck outta here,bc of bs like that ppl will eat shit like "hadrasaurs are bad" and think its gospel
I think a lot of people are viewing the animals he puts in these lists like... Well animals but the list is for how they would be as a character in a game and to that extent yes they are being judged heavily based on their "pvp gameplay" but I do agree with you about most of the list esp. hadrosaurs, they should be placed higher
Nah he doesn’t just rank them based on pvp gameplay he ranks them on how good the creatures are at pvp, food acquiring defence from environmental conditions and predators/ rival players and most importantly reproduction. He doesn’t just rank for pvp but how good the gameplay it. Not how enjoyable the combat is. Although even then I dislike how he treats these rules in general. Like he doesn’t regard escaping as good pvp gameplay stuff when knowing when to run and if you can is important in these survival games.
@@victory8928 I somewhat disagree with you on the final point. I find games where you run away from dangers all the time incredibly boring, if not down right annoying.
@@lekhaclam87 It depends on the player anyhow. An opinion like that is for ya, and while I respect it. Some may like to run from time to time. Plus it doesn’t always have to be running. Some animals do mix things up when their own option is escape.
@@victory8928 yeah and In a survival game if u can’t fight running is always the next best thing :P and it’s dumb cause just because dryo couldn’t defend itself doesn’t mean it’s f tier he even said himself that dryo was fast enough to out run it’s predators! F tier should only be reserved for totally defenseless creatures! Of which can’t fight nor run away. That is true f tier material!
Well putting Spinosaurous is D tier is a good indicator that tier zoo knows little about game design and the importance of environmental settings
Hadrosaurs were so fat, they could run fast, they had a lot of strength, strong beaks. They also had thick skin. Well, as well as their gigantic size, strong front legs for attack, as well as strong muscular tails.
Looks like obesity is not a bad thing after all.
@@chronicwasp in nature, that "obesity" is not the same as in humans, where is all fat, "obese" animals look like that because of big guts to digest vegetation and very dense and powerful muscles that comprises their bodies, some examples of this are hippos, buffalos, elephants and rhinos
That's offensive
@@chronicwasp not obese bulky obesity would be more fat than muscular mass hadrasaurs ahd both balanced
He ranks it as if it was a video game. AKA if it's fun and powerful to play. So while the power is there, the fun while not being terrible not so much.
I love tierzoo for his entertaining style, but he's never been a source of info I'd take seriously. Either way, at least he does better than Stephen Fry, who should be a new level beneath F
Yeah even if I'm a big fan of tierzoo, his dino tier list honestly pissed me tf off. For his other stuffs top tier
Another thing to note with Komodo Dragons is that, most of the time they prefer hunting their prey outright than waiting for them to bleed out or injecting them with venom. Komodos are very muscular and their teeth are large and sharp enough to cause serious injuries, especially when they prefer targetting the limbs to subdue their prey. Their speed is also relatively fast for short bursts, which are good for short ambushes or pursuits.
The infamous water buffalo scene became a trope for bad bacteria or venom Komodo dragons, but the major thing is that water buffaloes love to wallow in water and in that specific instance it was wallowing in polluted water after being bitten which made the infections worse.
I think Tierzoo needs to update his Dinosaur tier list, but split off into a series of videos, each covering an era, or one group of dinosaurs.
The thing about Tier Zoo is that he presents his information of animals like a video game. So he gives info in a way that would sound like reviewing characters in a open world game, so he gives the information of how individuals could survive as these creatures which leads towards the more combat centric information with how effectively something can take down and survive an attack from something. The only real exception being for creatures with high intelligence where he talks more about their survival outside of combat.
the dinosaur tier list is definitely F tier compared to his other videos which are all at least C tier, kind of depends on how you view applying animals in a video game format, i think its fun but silly
I love your content! TierZoo may not get everything right (this is approaching 4+ years old and he may not be a dino expert), but the way he presents concepts in gamer terms is a fantastic way to introduce people to biology. While yeah, Triceratops did not actively "choose" evolution points, the presentation is meant to convey how the animal has a certain "build" like in a game and the pros/cons of it to a large audience.
The problem I find with this tier list is that he seems to rank dinosaurs based on their size. If that's true, then what's the point having different stats if you just rank them by sizes? Being large doesn't mean it's better because large animals are the most vulnerably effected if there's sudden change in the ecosystem they live in. This list should be rank by how balance their stats are and that would be fair.
I don't think that's necessarily true because, well, dromeosaurs in A tier and spinosaurs in D tier.
@@christiancinnabars1402 and T. rex is way larger than carch!! But he ain’t ranking it by survivability either! Nor power?! So who knows what he was going off for this tier list!
Do you think Troodon will get the Brontosaurus treatment with its name?
Depends on what you mean by Brontosaurus treatment. Becoming invalid and unused by experts or becoming revived after 100 years. At this point, probably the former.
From what I understood there's a great difference between what happened to Brontosaurus from what happened with Troodon.
Brontosaurus excelsus was considered to be similar enough to Apatosaurus ajax to be moved into the same genus, but different enough to remain its own species and in 2015 it was found to be different enough to warrant its own genus once again.
However, Troodon was simply undiagnostic, meaning scientists can't tell what is Troodon and what is not, making it unlikely for it to return into use.
In an hypothethycal scenario where the same thing that happened with Troodon and Stenonychosaurus happened with Apatosaurus and Brontosaurus, Apatosaurus would come to be considered invalid and its material reassigned to Brontosaurus.
First time seeing you. Love your content keep up the good work.
I usually watch videos on Newpipe but I make sure to watch your videos among a few others on the UA-cam app to give my view to count. Love the content and knowledge you give
When I heard of him saying Hadrosaurs are weak as heck, It bothers me since large hadrosaurs have sheer bulk to overpower the theropods
And some are the size of sauropods which he sure do loves praising…
Crazy how he ranked Horses as S tier but Ranked Hadrosaurs as D tier
You know, hadrosaurs are simelto horses in suprising ways, they are big but fast,have no obius wepons like horns BUT are strong and can figth.
Even modern animals think twice before attacking a horse or Cow
@pyroraptor that’s my point, why can’t it be the same with hadrosaurs
@@DANNY-jw6co He put T.rex in B tier, how tf he's pleasing Rex fanboys?
@@DANNY-jw6co Rex should not be in c. It was perfect at what it does. But hadrosaurs should have been a or s same with most of the Dino’s on the list. Rex should have been in a
I believe tier zoo's whole shtick is putting animals into tier lists based on inferred stats similar to what you'd see in a video game, which is almost always just combat related
"See a predator coming, and run away."
A 14 ton Shantungosaurus bull seeing a 5 ton Zhuchengtyrannus roll up: "I gotta get out of here!"
A human comparison would be a 120 lb person scaring off a 336 lb wrestler because they break into their home carrying a fork.
Yeah, T. rex and Edmontosaurus were pretty much the only case where the predator outweighted the hadrosaur, and even in that case I doubt an Edmonto would go down easily against a rex.
@@matyaskassay4346 9 ton rex outweighs 15 ton edmontosaurus?
@@azhdarchidae66 on what world did Edmontosaurus weigh 15 tons? I know there is some questionable evidence for 15 /meter/ individuals but even those wouldn't be that heavy.
@@matyaskassay4346 well it turns out i had misremembered, Edmontosaurus Annectens weighs "only" 10 tons, still as much or more than most Tyrannosaurus specimens known
@@azhdarchidae66 10 tons is still too much, most edmontosaurus specimens are estimated to have been around 6 tons. A few might have been as big as 10 tons but those remains are very fragmentary. So generally T. rex is still at least the same size as the average Edmontosaurus, or bigger.
I always hated Tier Zoo's dinosaur list. The more I think about it, half of the dinosaurs placed are lies. For example, hadrosaurs and Stegosaurs low tier? Please, a stego's thagomizers is death straight up! As for hadrosaurs? Their shear size and powerful hooved limbs make them a fearsome adversary, even for predators like Tyrannosaurus.
Yeah and it’s strange to cause he wasn’t just raw out and individual species either! He was talk about hadrosaur as whole and of which some of those f@ckers are the size of the S tier sauropods!!!
Loved that little Puss In Boots reference slipped in there.
I have my comment debunking it on that video.
honestly i want to give tierzoo a pass because he tried doing "research" by watching a ton of dinosaur documentaries (not knowing a lot of them had some outdated / inaccurate info)
but him saying *RIDICULOUS* and blatantly wrong things such as hadrosaurs were defenseless and also showing a clip of one effortlessly getting taken down by a pack of dromaeosaurs, and showing the 2000s spino post 2014 in an "educational" video absolutely FUELS me with rage
the fact tierzoo also underpowers cheetahs tremendously (such as making it look like they get their kills stolen from them 9/10 when it is actually far lower than that) only make me hate him even more
that "dinosaur tier list" video makes me want to write an entire essay in the comment section pointing out all the misinformation, it makes me THAT *PISSED*
The videos that got my blood boiling was his snake and lizard ones since he went ‘lol if you can lose your tail and regrow it I will put you low cause how dare you have a way to allow for retreat if need be especially if the predators has your tail in its grip’. It isn’t done in good faith for why the trait cane about/why it is used. Same with how he ranks dart frogs saying that they are wasting evo point when well they need those points cause their predators develop resistance to the poison and the poison is itself acquired by the frog’s meals. So that whole thing is just unnecessary on Tierzoo’s part he could have just said ‘poison dart frogs acquire poison from their prey which saves on points for poison production and reduces the cost of the defence but it also makes them reliant on prey for defences’ instead of nonsense rambling that ignores arm races
did you liked how he gave cassowary f tier
@@TrajGreekFire cassowary and ostrich should be S tier tho
Not that I disagree with your points, but do you really think working yourself up into a frenzy over some banal videos is a good expenditure of your energy?
@@armata_strigoi_0 let people do what they wish honestly. If they need to vent then let them vent. Bottling feelings that can be best expressed cause them to linger longer than letting them go.
Cool mustache lmao, also if I remembered correctly TierZoo said that he will be ranking the animals by they fair in a competitive game. Not saying he always right.
"A build never comes close to a triceratops in directional defence"
Eotriceratops💀
Soo trike but smaller …….
Yes two of my favorite UA-camrs
Hadrosaurs are S tier
yes
Please don't call this a reaction video man. You have actual quality and UA-cam shorts has depleted the value of a "reaction" to a dark video of someone staring at you below a video xD
Nice video, man. I can enjoy TierZoo's style at times, but some of the "rankings" and "facts" here are... questionable.
"Charcharodonts would cause bleeding effect"
Yeah very effective, while having your leg or your spine being crushed by T. rex is just a scratch :p
Bro he has no idea what he’s talking about. You are actually awesome!
I love your videos
I have to admit, I lost a lot of respect for tier zoo when I saw that he unironically compared wanting scientific accuracy to gatekeeping
Did he really do that?
@@huguesdepayens807 Unfortunately, yes
Wtf? Where did he say that? When? Please tell me you have a link for that.
@@tjarkschweizer I tried posting a link to the tweet where he said it, but youtube unfortunately filtered it
@@lancejburns What's the name of the video?
tierzoo: *uses tarbousaurus the mightiest ever and says dromaesaurs used toe claws for slicing*
me: press x to doubt
I would love to see you make a tier list with the same dinosaurs but with your own opinions
14:00 That gives me in idea; you should make your own dinosaur tier list
When are we getting the (2007)natgeo prehistoric predators accuracy review?
Also keep up the great content
After rewatching that tier list more recently I immediately thought "man I wonder what would red raptor would think of all the outdated misinformation and biases?" Not realising u did a video like 5 months ago lmao
My problem with his list is that he just picks out some random Dinosaur species from separate time periods and only talks about one scenario of why they are low or high tier without thinking the other.
For spinosaurus, he isn’t talking about what makes it very effective as a animal in its roll and instead just puts it on low tier due to the reason of its extinction which was climate change, in that case any dinosaur would fall to that category.
And puts sauropods (not even a specific species) on top tier cause their Invincible, without thinking of how low their survival rates are as Infants.
Wiles Ranking coelo and allo low or mid because their Ealry dinosaurs, even tho he acknowledges how Adaptable Coelos are in their ever changing Environment.
Either way, I find his ranking quite Inconsistent and doesn’t have a specific category to concentrate on, most his statements also feel like their only based on Old docs.
If I really would do a fair ranking to every species, I would do separate categories to either only a group of dinosaurs or a specific ecosystem/formation instead of randomly picking a random dinosaur from different eras.
Point is that, every dinosaurs was evolved to fit in a specific category in their own environment of their prime era
What I find particulary interesting in the study of Therizinosaurus claws is that, according to it, even grabbing branches and lowering them may had been too stressful for the claws, so the hypothesis is that they were just useless and used as a display, like a peacock's tail ^^
T. is just the dominant player in his area, if you look at what we found in Hell Creek formation, there's basically no other predators, the second largest predator is Dakotaraptor, which is like meters high ^^
If i remember correctly Trey the explainer actually helped him make that list which would explain the amount of "subversion" it has
What's wrong with Trey the explainer?
Did he? I never got the impression that Trey had any involvement in making this.
@@huguesdepayens807 Nothing with him as a person but his videos suffered a lot from wanting to subvert things for the sake of subversion and not knowing what the difference between a hypotesis and a proven fact
@@lekhaclam87 I remember reading that somewhere
@@creakingskull7008 Yeah, I've somewhat noticed that in his videos.
Would love to see a prehistoric predators review, it brings some really underapreciated cenozoic mammals
Hey, can you do a video either reacting to, talking about, or reviewing the Dinosauria series by Dead Sound/David James Armsby? They are amazing short films showing the magic of dinosaurs. If you do do this, make sure to watch the 'making of' videos, they are the behind the scenes and add to the films a lot! Great video btw 😅
I LOVE THAT SERIES
ok here's another reaction to do. 72 Dangerous animals: Prehistory. It's bad, like JFC levels of bad. I had to stop when he said that Varanus priscus was still alive and holding onto basal horse-eating Diatryma.
True, T.Rex's teeth were not extensively serrated... But I don't think any of their preys ever felt safer due to that.
Ever wondered why in Prehistoric Planet, when we see the T.Rex-Triceratops aftermath, there's blood dripping from the leaves and bushes?
That bite was so strong to shatter bones and cause the soft tissues caught in the pressure to literally explode.
Edmondotrus after having his spiine shattered by one single bite "Eh, no serrated teeth, that's but a scratch" XD
@@krankarvolund7771I'm sure that edmontosaurus with a healed t rex bite mark was happy they weren't as sharp as carcharodontosaurid teeth.
@@Why79-dx4rf If it wasn't powerful enough to crush his spine, it was probably not a full strength bite, I'm sure a lot of Charcharondotosaurus's preys also got glancing bites and survived ^^
@@krankarvolund7771 I'm just saying, a bite from a t rex is nowhere near a guaranteed kill.
@@Why79-dx4rf From Charcharodontosaurus neither, no predator can kill with just a single bite, even venomous snakes often miss their targets or will put too few venom ^^
But T. rex could bite a dino as big as him and still kill him in one bite. I'm not sure Charcharodontosaurus would be able to do the same, even with its super serrated teeth, grabbing a mouthful of flesh on a several tons hadrosaurus will hurt and can cause an infection, but it will not kill him just by blood loss ^^
36:08 even then a komodo is more likely to just run down and kill its prey or cripple with its lacerating bites over bite and let it bleed out. They are pretty effective predators that used to be widespread in Australia and Indonesia for a reason.
Yeah, that one documented case with the buffalo was more of an exception, usually they just rip their prey apart on the spot like all monitors.
@@matyaskassay4346 yeah I remember watching a komodo hunt a water buffalo and it just straight up cripple then killed it with a few bites. They are brilliant hunters.
They're not found in Australia (not anymore)
that one scene where a sauropod straight-up football kicks a raptor with it's BACK leg is the most horrible animated movement I had ever seen
Well ik but still kinda realistic..it would be easy for sauropod to kick dromaeosaurids
Thanks for making this lol. This TierZoo video was already full of holes but when he got to the raptors it just completely fell apart. Good to see another paleontology fan covering this!
38:00 I can't remember the name of the documentary, but I believe Rickraptor105 made a video on it called "The adventures of dinosaur X and Ed the badass" or something along those lines, so consider checking that out if you're interested.
Thank goodness TierZoo did not use Jurassic World as their source of dinosaur "facts" nor even use footages of that film (it's not even a dinosaur documentary and it's a flipping entertainment movie!). I'm glad they used Dinosaur Revolution's very accurate Ankylosaurus and not Jurassic World's really awful Ankylosaurus design for once in a dinosaur video. :)
Spinosaurus vs T-Rex by Bright Side next? That one is just flat out horrible.
None of these are low tiers! They are all amazing!
(Un)popular opinion : this is TierZoo's worst tier list
More like popular opinion to me
They have found sauropod trackways in places like Wyoming and Spain showing multiple animals moving together with smaller individuals more in the middle of the group. That might indicate herding behavior, at least some of the time
The ceolophysis with young was most likely a parent nesting with it's young when it died is the most recent assessment. However it's still widely accepted that many dinosaurs were somewhat cannibalistic because it's pretty common in general.
The documentary with the scaly troodon is called Leaps in Evolution.
Thanks!
Troodon is confusing as all hell. The term troodontid is still used even despite the type genus now being invalid.
The hadrosaur takes make me sad
I like tierzoo but this vid was garbage honestly
Glad to see someone else likes teir zoo even though it can be a bit wrong
He made a second video about how these creature would work today. Maybe you could react to that next.
From a 16 min vid to a 49 min video🗿
Ontogenetic niche partitioning isn’t exclusive to Tyrannosaurus. Juvenile Allosaurus were also much leggier than adults
There are many footprint tracks of multiple sauropod individuals of different ages walking on the same direction.
This is actually the first time I see your face and now I think about it you look like you could be a science teacher
To be fair, he has mentioned that only non-avian dinsosaurs were banned many times in more recent videos if I remember correctly.
And remember: Hadrosaurs are POWERFUL!
the problem with tier list is he is extremely EXTREMELY biased on his favorite kind of animal
people keep saying he is comparing the animals in combat but that’s not true
there has been tons of time he brought up how successful an animal is or how well adapted it is to it’s environment as a positive point and make the animal high tier
case in point? the Tyrants being B tier when it was the biggest, strongest, and arguably the most successful large land predator of it’s time… being B tier (which is straight up stupid no matter how he ranks… and I say this with T rex being far from my favorite dinosaur)
when carchas, which would get folded if these two predators would ever fought, are in A? what are we comparing Ark dinos?
how he ranks almost completely depends on how much he likes the animal or type of animal
and if we are going purely on “gameplay” it’s still very flawed ranking because he put anything that isn’t his favorite “play style” in mid to low tier (both Tyrants and spino or stegos are extremely successful for their environment but because he doesn’t like them they are in B, C and D)
He clearly has a bias for sauropods, as he sounded very upset about them going extinct in his cryptid video.
And he also doesn't like hadrosaurs, as he said they'd go extinct if they were alive today (though I forget which video he said it in). He legit thinks modern animals would outcompete gigantic hadrosaurs. Like, what?
The reason why tierzoo did the tier list the way he did is because he makes the tier list off video game logic or how good is something is at killing other things
Although we do have hope. TierZoo hearted a comment from a guy demanding a more scientifically acurrate tier list so let's hope he makes one one day.
Alternate title:goofiest dino tier list feat:Ed the badass
First time seeing your face here, you’re the only UA-camr who looks how they sound in my opinion
You should make your own “tier list” even though it is kinda impossible to make them
How do paleontologists classify dinosaur fossiles? Like, how do they know a certain bone belongs to a certain dinosaur?
Seeing Red Raptor's face doesn't look natural
Tierzoo is a person who watched all episodes of Dinosaur King and thinks he's a dinosaur expert
He really did give stegosaurus starfish intelligence huh
37:50 That documentary is land of dinosaurs (Made in Korea)
I have a question
if there is a group of ornithomimids would that be a pack , or a herd, or a flock?
Pack is more commonly associated with predators. Herd is more commonly associated with herbivores. And flock is associated with birds. So flock or herds is what u would call a group of ornithomimids.
flock
trex at b and spino and hadrosaur at d hurts me the most
oh and also dromaeosaurs and troodontids at a, man
Yes because muh intelligence
Yeah ngl those was really dumb choices on his part
@@mhdfrb9971oml jp raptor intellect is disproven kinda
@@pierre-samuelroux9364 of course cuz I'm being sarcastic