Right? The devs trying to defend him saying he doesn’t have to be a pro, but not heavy attacking for sustain and dying from no resources? Literally the basics
bro please let wheeler know hes awful and the very reason why ESO sucks now and the reason why 10 year veteran players and content creators are leaving. *ITS HIM LITERALLY KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME HE IS IN CHARGE OF*
I left at templar changes a few years back. Got tired of spending a long time templating a toon and every two to three months another toon was entirely changed and useless or needed an entirely new template. First three toons I ignored but when the templar got ganked and they gave him that horrible jabs animation I just left lol. My friend showed me this tonight. Doesn’t seem they’ve changed any and are, if possible, even more uninformed about their own game than before.
@@theeomix The reason why I spent 9k hours in Ravenwatch for the 3 years it had a no-proc ruleset, guess who's 8 out of 11 totally golded out pvp chars became useless over night? :D (Hint: me xD)
Thanks for posting this : Eso has changed a lot.... The Devs don't seem to take feedback from the pvp community anymore... not seriously anyways... unfortunately feedback has been met with defensiveness and bans even... not even posts that are hostile have resulted in silences and penalties... I still play and enjoy the game though.... but I can't lie... it used to be more fun.... Like you said... When you damage someone spamming heals it feels like your damage is invisible... Wardens especially just seem impervious to death.
I know it's hard, especially for pvp players to understand but, eso never was and never will be a 'pvp focused' game. zos policy on pvp is: "play it or leave it" - we have some crown store s**t to sell.
@DrizztRPG you're completely wrong lmfao ... Cyrodill was their main focus for years when the game came out but with alot of bad decisions and shit management the pvp side of the game started to die ... so they transitioned to pve and housing ... they literally spent a year working solely on fixing bugs and the lag for cyrodill with little to nothing to show for it ... they are just shit at their jobs
@@zYogiz Well Im not 'completely' wrong tho, or maybe i just presented this topic wrong so let me say this again: zos have made unfulfilled promise that this game will be focused on pvp before game release "the biggest thing - pvp arena, with castles and sieges, beautiful massive battles in cyrodiil". However they have quickly changed their 'business model' to "colorful pve, cute kindergarten- like story telling fairy-world" kind of thing. listen I liked pvp in this game i have played on and off - 8 years, and iv made few pvp clips myself for fun but the lack of 'competence' towards pvp players is pathetic. Cheers!
@@zYogiz In short what i meant at first was: zos knew from the start, deep.. deep down they always knew that 'pvp' will not be the best way to profit of a "the elder scrolls title" which have wide RPG history. You see 'rpg' element have nothing to do with 'pvp', so they confused the audience - customers, only to shoved 'pvp' under the rug, year after year making fruitless promises that something will get better for pvp players. Man..$2bn 'billion dollars' since game launched..sheesh, that must feel nice "for them"😂
31:25 - Ah this really explains the current state of the game when the devs are saying this trash… Yeah because PVP should be about annoying people on no damage tank builds and not fighting 🤡 clown
Played 1st person for maybe a year D: Was in a dungeon and a guy says, "Don't take this personally, but HOW are you missing these things, are you PLAYING IN 1st PERSON?!?" (so bad he could tell by watching) lol - can't be out of 3rd person now for more than a few minutes.
Bro we really need you back talk sense into the devs! You are rusty but you pointed out some of the large issues instantly!! you watching your old clips really got to me emotionally I really started solo pvp just to become like you and still to this day i solo and the answer to your question at 3:24:14 you can still 1vx its just way harder and rare and usually end with stalemate tanks running and 3-4 gankblades dead. Thank you for taking your time doing this again!
Actualy is so easy to fix. Healing should scale from max resources only. Damage only from wep/spell dmg. Also remove heal stacking, and done-pvp back to normal
honestly this is good. The fact they have no idea is really positive. This leaves an immense space for abusers and those who want to be good. Like would you want the police to be smart if you are planning to be a cartel king? Because lets be honest the fact that you want to be good at the game means you ruin the experience of all the noobs getting wiped instantly etc. We want devs who get a low pay and have no idea of what they are doing edit: watching the whole video gave me the impression that either he wants to play bad or casual by choice, or he never plays this game so he doesnt know what the new stuff are about. That said i think the concept he talks about seem to be legit, perhaps he knows what can be fun and what is not fun. Being too good as something ruins the experience for everyone, its bad for yourself because you end up hard locked in a few strategies and its bad for the other people because you keep killing them too easily. In concept the game should allow hundreds of combinations that all work decently, but in reality there are a really short list of sets/strategies you can have in competitive pvp. This is obviously a by-product because most people have no idea of what are they doing, expecially new players. So im not expecting devs to know the secrets of the game othewise they would nerf them immediately, its way better if they have no idea of hidden mechanics and overpowered strategies out there. Would also be an insult if the devs were playing op tactics. That would mean that they know something is wrong and they shouldnt allow it. Otherwise if they just play casually means they are just trying to figure out whats wrong from the perspective or a new player.
Your completely right... what ever patch was during that stamina nb is what pvp should be... it was awesome and now the devs dont know what their doing or how to even play their own game... so out of touch with pvp
This game play is literally a prime example of HOW BAD ZOS MISSED THE MARK WITH THIS UPDATE. When the lead combat dev is getting farmed non stop and trying to act like being zerged was enjoyable is laughable. Why join as a 4 and then not play together?
It’s been 8-10yrs, people know how to defend now and wait to attack lol. They watch your weapons to see when you’re defending and attacking to adjust accordingly. EVERYONE knows the spec bow comes right after incap so they roll dodge out of their stun and evade the spec bow. People have just accumulated way more experience over years of playing. There’s still easy kills here and there, but the average person knows how to defend now.
Hey Sypher I’m a big fan from the osrs days and followed you onto eso.. I’m not a Fortnite guy but I remember watching your very first eso vids before it launched and can safely say you’re the streamer who got me into eso during the pre release hype.. It was great to see you on your legendary nightblade again.. I am curious tho if this stream gave you the itch to come back again at least for a little while?
give us old animation canceling back and most ppl will start playing again, the combat gameplay got ultra clunky since the devs decided to tune down animation canceling so much its just sad it was the best mmorpg pvp combat controls/gameplay/movement we ever had and the devs changed that exact thing what was best of the game the fluid ACTION combat gameplay :(
i Cant lie watching you not know how to follow crown on your mini map almost made me a little mad. ZOS and its team are so disconnected from this game now its sad.
Your sustain was bad, and you have to choose the right people to kill, and in bgs you cant leave your teammates as much cause once youre getting jumped by good players its over thats just how eso is (and you know they were focusing you!) but yea I think you did good under the circumstances youre in good to see you play again!
Bruh this is sypher pk y’all new folks don’t even know who this man is. Eso is a completely different shit show now back in the day PvP was a little bit more balanced this man was a PvP god he knows….
Check out some of the new gank comps i posted in the last week Sypher, that's what it looks like now days. You are lucky I was inbetween 40 and 41st ban when you went out to Cyrodiil or we would have met again ^^
You are not wrong sypher esp pvpers have been saying this for a long time healing is to much and many other issues like sorcs which they refuse to nerf.
@@ICratosIESOyou have to play in groups to be somewhat effective against decent players. Usually two good players fighting eachother could last 30 minutes. It’s not fun unless you’re just running a bomb build. Been playing the game since 2015. It used to be fun. Now I’m about to just put the game away. But that’s just my opinion.
lol sypher was considered the best PvP player to ever touch this game many years ago. He hasn’t played much in over 7 years so no she he isn’t going to play well
Damn bro lead combat dev doesn’t even know how to play the game
Right? The devs trying to defend him saying he doesn’t have to be a pro, but not heavy attacking for sustain and dying from no resources? Literally the basics
So like 98% of all dev from every game lol
@i_nosc0pedjfk.227 yep lmfao but can't tell people shit🤣 my homie EMP is a ESO dev but he actually plays PVP very well!
bro please let wheeler know hes awful and the very reason why ESO sucks now and the reason why 10 year veteran players and content creators are leaving.
*ITS HIM LITERALLY KNOWING NOTHING ABOUT THE GAME HE IS IN CHARGE OF*
Yeah it was insane to watch him clueless on how the game works.
I have over 2500 hours, uninstalled a few months ago :(
I left at templar changes a few years back. Got tired of spending a long time templating a toon and every two to three months another toon was entirely changed and useless or needed an entirely new template. First three toons I ignored but when the templar got ganked and they gave him that horrible jabs animation I just left lol. My friend showed me this tonight. Doesn’t seem they’ve changed any and are, if possible, even more uninformed about their own game than before.
@@theeomix The reason why I spent 9k hours in Ravenwatch for the 3 years it had a no-proc ruleset, guess who's 8 out of 11 totally golded out pvp chars became useless over night? :D (Hint: me xD)
Thanks for posting this : Eso has changed a lot.... The Devs don't seem to take feedback from the pvp community anymore... not seriously anyways... unfortunately feedback has been met with defensiveness and bans even... not even posts that are hostile have resulted in silences and penalties... I still play and enjoy the game though.... but I can't lie... it used to be more fun.... Like you said... When you damage someone spamming heals it feels like your damage is invisible... Wardens especially just seem impervious to death.
I know it's hard, especially for pvp players to understand but, eso never was and never will be a 'pvp focused' game.
zos policy on pvp is: "play it or leave it" - we have some crown store s**t to sell.
@DrizztRPG you're completely wrong lmfao ... Cyrodill was their main focus for years when the game came out but with alot of bad decisions and shit management the pvp side of the game started to die ... so they transitioned to pve and housing ... they literally spent a year working solely on fixing bugs and the lag for cyrodill with little to nothing to show for it ... they are just shit at their jobs
@@zYogiz Well Im not 'completely' wrong tho, or maybe i just presented this topic wrong so let me say this again:
zos have made unfulfilled promise that this game will be focused on pvp before game release "the biggest thing - pvp arena, with castles and sieges, beautiful massive battles in cyrodiil".
However they have quickly changed their 'business model' to "colorful pve, cute kindergarten- like story telling fairy-world" kind of thing.
listen I liked pvp in this game i have played on and off - 8 years, and iv made few pvp clips myself for fun but the lack of 'competence' towards pvp players is pathetic. Cheers!
@@DrizztRPG I agree with what you said there
@@zYogiz In short what i meant at first was: zos knew from the start, deep.. deep down they always knew that 'pvp' will not be the best way to profit of a "the elder scrolls title" which have wide RPG history. You see 'rpg' element have nothing to do with 'pvp', so they confused the audience - customers, only to shoved 'pvp' under the rug, year after year making fruitless promises that something will get better for pvp players.
Man..$2bn 'billion dollars' since game launched..sheesh, that must feel nice "for them"😂
Crazy seeing you go from playing eso to being a successful twitch streamer. I play both games but I’m glad you came back to check out what’s new
Wow… 877 cp shows how long ago sypher left the game….
I think he left it soon after the CP system was released
When it was much harder to get cp
he is the GO
@@Eweyhen no. He was like 100+ cp above usable cap when he left
31:25 - Ah this really explains the current state of the game when the devs are saying this trash…
Yeah because PVP should be about annoying people on no damage tank builds and not fighting 🤡 clown
sypherpk the og eso pvp yter. one of the reasons i got into eso pvp and yt myself.
"you don't have to play third person you can play first person"
youtube tos doesn't let me respond to this quote in an honest manner
Played 1st person for maybe a year D: Was in a dungeon and a guy says, "Don't take this personally, but HOW are you missing these things, are you PLAYING IN 1st PERSON?!?" (so bad he could tell by watching) lol - can't be out of 3rd person now for more than a few minutes.
@@NewmiesDad lmfao we all been there i don't think i swapped to third person till about 6 months in
They need to make competitive deathmatch only. There is nothing competitive about having 50k health and caping objectives
Bro we really need you back talk sense into the devs! You are rusty but you pointed out some of the large issues instantly!!
you watching your old clips really got to me emotionally I really started solo pvp just to become like you and still to this day i solo and the answer to your question at 3:24:14 you can still 1vx its just way harder and rare and usually end with stalemate tanks running and 3-4 gankblades dead.
Thank you for taking your time doing this again!
This was a joke
Sypher getting grouped down and bagged with a clueless dev rambling about bashing is peak content.
Everything you said from 3hrs13mins forward is 💯 spot on.
Bro this video hit me hard with nostalgia combined with the soundtrack
Thank you very much for uploading it❤
Thank you for playing again Sypher! Great stream!
37:42 don’t think the dev liked getting feedback. Shame
It would be nice if the game returned to damage being damaged and tanks being tanks.. And healers being healers 🎉
Actualy is so easy to fix. Healing should scale from max resources only. Damage only from wep/spell dmg. Also remove heal stacking, and done-pvp back to normal
Whaaat? Bro sooo good seeing u back on eso man. And congrats on everthing man 😊😊
he was a paid guest. He will never came bck to eso. Cant blame him
‘We thought about it in development’ Yh just like when we thought the earth was flat. 0 perception of what the player base wants
honestly this is good. The fact they have no idea is really positive. This leaves an immense space for abusers and those who want to be good. Like would you want the police to be smart if you are planning to be a cartel king? Because lets be honest the fact that you want to be good at the game means you ruin the experience of all the noobs getting wiped instantly etc. We want devs who get a low pay and have no idea of what they are doing
edit: watching the whole video gave me the impression that either he wants to play bad or casual by choice, or he never plays this game so he doesnt know what the new stuff are about.
That said i think the concept he talks about seem to be legit, perhaps he knows what can be fun and what is not fun.
Being too good as something ruins the experience for everyone, its bad for yourself because you end up hard locked in a few strategies and its bad for the other people because you keep killing them too easily.
In concept the game should allow hundreds of combinations that all work decently, but in reality there are a really short list of sets/strategies you can have in competitive pvp. This is obviously a by-product because most people have no idea of what are they doing, expecially new players.
So im not expecting devs to know the secrets of the game othewise they would nerf them immediately, its way better if they have no idea of hidden mechanics and overpowered strategies out there.
Would also be an insult if the devs were playing op tactics. That would mean that they know something is wrong and they shouldnt allow it. Otherwise if they just play casually means they are just trying to figure out whats wrong from the perspective or a new player.
Doing a once a month ESO stream would be sick Sypher 100p Good to have some variety.
Your completely right... what ever patch was during that stamina nb is what pvp should be... it was awesome and now the devs dont know what their doing or how to even play their own game... so out of touch with pvp
Gg!
did u give sypher your macros?
@@ChosoOG 🤣
@@runkorko I had too 😂
I love how you made BANK on fortnite and then came back to your roots
This game play is literally a prime example of HOW BAD ZOS MISSED THE MARK WITH THIS UPDATE. When the lead combat dev is getting farmed non stop and trying to act like being zerged was enjoyable is laughable. Why join as a 4 and then not play together?
their original devs leave the ship like 3 major updates before. Thats why we get sheet now
HOLY SHIT SYPHERS BACK! I knew youd come back one day
Goes to show why this game is dying, the Dev keeping dying in Bgs smh
good to see you back on eso
It’s been 8-10yrs, people know how to defend now and wait to attack lol. They watch your weapons to see when you’re defending and attacking to adjust accordingly. EVERYONE knows the spec bow comes right after incap so they roll dodge out of their stun and evade the spec bow. People have just accumulated way more experience over years of playing. There’s still easy kills here and there, but the average person knows how to defend now.
it's been awhile since I've seen you play eso
damn didnt know you played this if you wanna run IC sometime tell me and im down i just got it on PC though so im trying to level
Came back from no where and almost beat Adam lad 1v1
Miss running into you in Cyrodiil 😅
oh hi Grim👋 we must watch out man cos 'eso' tend to creep on those players who left the game, and we can find ourselves back into this mess😂
Sypher on ESO? Love it!
i miss eso content i remeber the group nightblade events you held in cyro. seeing your cp at 800 just shows how much the game chnaged
Hey Sypher I’m a big fan from the osrs days and followed you onto eso.. I’m not a Fortnite guy but I remember watching your very first eso vids before it launched and can safely say you’re the streamer who got me into eso during the pre release hype.. It was great to see you on your legendary nightblade again.. I am curious tho if this stream gave you the itch to come back again at least for a little while?
ROFL ... ressurecting a dead horse ... might this help a dead game? Things have changed a bit, huh?
give us old animation canceling back and most ppl will start playing again, the combat gameplay got ultra clunky since the devs decided to tune down animation canceling so much its just sad it was the best mmorpg pvp combat controls/gameplay/movement we ever had and the devs changed that exact thing what was best of the game the fluid ACTION combat gameplay :(
AC came as bug. ZoS tried to fix/ failed. Then call it feature. Its same as day 1. Never changed
MAIN ESO FORTNITE IS WEAK❤️💪🏻
damn, sypher has an mythic item? did he played off stream or someone else did for him.
He used to be a ESO channel. His channel was all about PVP builds and gameplay until he switched to Fortnite.
WELCOME BACK ESO GOD!
That first group is what you’ll run into in cyrodiil. Ball groups
i Cant lie watching you not know how to follow crown on your mini map almost made me a little mad. ZOS and its team are so disconnected from this game now its sad.
Would have been nice for some of the stream to see player killer to actually roll some BGs with a good team but oh well
Whats better than LEAD PVP DESIGNER? Actualy only the girl was up to date.
Anyone know what style his helmet is?
I can tell Fortnite was on your mind then. ESO hasnt been the same, obviously not in a good way either.
OG Goat!
Your sustain was bad, and you have to choose the right people to kill, and in bgs you cant leave your teammates as much cause once youre getting jumped by good players its over thats just how eso is (and you know they were focusing you!) but yea I think you did good under the circumstances youre in good to see you play again!
Bruh this is sypher pk y’all new folks don’t even know who this man is. Eso is a completely different shit show now back in the day PvP was a little bit more balanced this man was a PvP god he knows….
@@keepinitahundred1370 who doesnt know who he is? Lol
@@PicklesAndPizzathen why are you condescending him in your comment??
@@Kitkatklaws exactly. pickle doesn’t know anything….
How I love this guy🎉
I miss stamina night blade so much
Check out some of the new gank comps i posted in the last week Sypher, that's what it looks like now days. You are lucky I was inbetween 40 and 41st ban when you went out to Cyrodiil or we would have met again ^^
41 bans??????
Never focus healers/tank first it almost never works once you take out dps theres nothing the healer can do
This is 100% true
You are not wrong sypher esp pvpers have been saying this for a long time healing is to much and many other issues like sorcs which they refuse to nerf.
This does not look fun
It is not. Some of the worst pvp in the genre.
It's very fun. But requires a lot of time put in and a VERY large skill gap. Once you get good at pushing the buttons correctly it's addicting
BUT this 8v8 game mode is GARBAGE.
@@ICratosIESOyou have to play in groups to be somewhat effective against decent players. Usually two good players fighting eachother could last 30 minutes. It’s not fun unless you’re just running a bomb build. Been playing the game since 2015. It used to be fun. Now I’m about to just put the game away. But that’s just my opinion.
Need more eso content
1:06:52 you had full mag and didnt heal
its called GCD
Oh man forgot about the bridge fights
Thanks brother🎉
🎉🎉
Just needed better gear and better combat awareness thats all bro its not all on you lol 1:29:03
KA KAAAHHHH
Ohhhh....so bad. Not sure who this dude is but, you play like trash my man.
lol sypher was considered the best PvP player to ever touch this game many years ago. He hasn’t played much in over 7 years so no she he isn’t going to play well