A few extra notes here; there is a 12 frame cooldown for Super Counter input but most of the time it feels irrelevant. Super Counters are actually easier in this game compared to Tenkaichi 3 for another reason entirely; every single smash for the most part, has a much clearer visual cue or hitbox than it did in Tenkaichi 2 & 3. This alone makes it significantly easier for you to decipher when you actually have to try to input the Super Counter. The timing is still more or less the same or retains the same concept from Tenkaichi 3, it's as the strike lands on you, but it is easier in this game because of 60fps & because of clearer hitboxes. Hope this helps everyone to learn. If enough efficient guides are uploaded on this I may not have to do a guide myself. Good work on the video, Tymier.
Is the timing of Super Counters and Vanishing the same? I can hit a Vanish with 95% accuracy but Super counters are more difficult, and I can't understand if I'm hitting it early, or it's due to the frame timing. From your analysis I seem to understand that for Vanishing you want to hit it slightly before getting hit, while for Super Counters just a frame after actually getting hit?
Nice to see a video that isn't just click bait. The vast majority of videos out there are something along the lines of "how to be a GOD at countering" then the video is just them reading the tutorial aloud. Thanks for putting out an actual detailed guide!
earlier today i was thinking everybody "explains" fighting game mechanics but never does frame by frame breakdowns on how it works. this is so fucking helpful.
This is honestly the first video I’ve heard anyone explain that you counter after you are technically hit, tremendously helpful, I really felt like anytime other people were explaining they were just saying practice until you get the timing down, which is a very vague statement, and besides the timing in training is much different than online 👍🏾
i want you to know that technical nitty gritty videos like these for what people could consider basic counterplay is one of the MOST IMPORTANT THINGS people overlook and im very grateful for this video
0:36 yeah those people are definitely engagement farming. i’m glad you call this out because it’s so many clickbait videos saying the same thing “do the same thing the tutorial says. or just practice lol” this is exactly what i was looking for. the nerdy explanation for how to super counter. thank you so much!
here we are, we are about to leave the general button smashing era. And enter the era where everyone will know how to super counter, the fights will no longer be about who super counters better but who has the better mix ups combos since changing your tempo each combo can avoid to get super countered.
@@camfreed9829maybe depending on the character? I find it a lot easier super countering the faster hitting characters compared to the slower hitting ones e.g. broly
@@shaggywali9575 its because the fast hitting characters got way more punches meaning you got way more windows, the character doesnt even need to be a fast type to be easily super countered, almost every character has that one move where they hit you fast with their legs, that move offers so many super counter windows its ridiculous.
3:57 "You see that? You see that?" No, I don't see shit. XD this is my first dbz game and I'm loving it, super helpful guide that helps break down actual things instead of "yeah so when the enemy attacks y'gonna want to super counter". Thanks man, see you at the top.
Summary based on my comprehension: Don't treat super counter as high speed evasion where you will press guard after the animation started, instead do super counter when you see the animation is about to end.
Bro this is exactly what im learning and understood from this video! That window as tymier explained is super close but if you understand how it works, can do it. Im not saying i got it yet, but this and how it was explained is helping me to get it more often than not
Today I was playing and practicing the super counter, and I learned how to do it the way you mentioned in the video, without pressing the buttons together. Then I wondered if anyone was teaching the counter in an easier way, and I found you. That's when I understood about the frames. Thank you, I will train again. I'm from Brazil, but your videos from the U.S. have been the best teaching so far.
LETS GET HIM TO 15! You’re one of the best content creators for sparking zero. When we ask for a video you release it a day later with great quality all around. I just wish your vids were longer but you’re killing it bro bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥
@@Raylz-h9c i mean yeah it does come down to preference at the end of the day (and sometimes the game just wont have proper keyboard support) but people really love to overestimate the difficulty of keyboard. im just saying it's not and at most it would take a week to get the hang of it if not less
Hey man, doing breakdowns like this shows a step above most content creators. You can feel the time and effort you put in to actually TEACH people. Definitely subscribing and keep up the good work, passion in your work shines through in stuff like this
I think when people say super counter is rng, they mean that it is humanly impossible to perceive its timing unless you have a sharingan, so you’re better off relying on rng
@@dj33781rng means random number generator i believe. He’s basically saying you’re better off relying on this counter randomly working than trusting your own ability to perceive the exact moment when to counter. I pretty much agree cause there’s just no way my eyes can catch the first going through my character’s body when I’m playing full speed
Best way to do it is to compare it to music. Listen to the rhythm of the punches. On the beat (the punch) you press square, on the off beat (the dead noise in between punches) you flick up.
Man's said: "You see that?" *Unpauses clip to him immediately super countering* "You see that?" ... 🗿 I guess let me just see the future or something easier 😔
Thx for the detailed explanation, made me realisize im not complete trash, i was simply consistently too early. Understanding models and hitboxes made a huge diff, ty!
@@SwiftSSJ It doesn't stop anything because your opponent can just vanish a Super Counter and repeat the exact same loop. It's not as reliable as just a normal z counter
@mugen4516 the point is even though it can be vanished, when you are in a vanish war you and your opponent are stuck in a rhythm. Throwing out one of these breaks that rhythm and momentum and your opponent is most likely not gonna be ready for it and will probably mistime their next input or not register it at all until they've been hit.
But super counter requires no meter. Look at the first clip. I won the engagement because I used a defense mechanic that hits 360. He lost since he was using a mechanic that requires meter
bro literally, watched three videos on how to get out of back shots (pause) and all three were just talking about nonsense. Thanks for actual good vid!
Genuinely helpful unlike the other super counter guides I saw before this one. When they explained that its easier to move up before pressing attack they did not explain how tight the window is like this. Finally starting to do it somewhat consistently in training.
this video was actually really informative, because while i could do super counters, but i was pretty inconsistent. thank you for breaking it down and explaining it.
for controller players i suggest hitting the attack button first then left stick up, since left stick doesn’t take much effort to register going up small threshold
Taking this into practice right now my man. Thank you so much for the in-depth analysis. It’s the one thing I wish this game did a better job at explaining. Glorious work. Keep up the grind.
Man... i've seen sooo many video promising crazy tech and then just saying "so uh super counters are good, press it and you win". Thanks for actually providing quality content.
literally have a whole playlist named "sparking zero guide" with just this guys videos on it lol fr tho this is srsly helpful Edit:guys it’s literally just a playlist named sparking zero guides with just this guys and maybe a bunch of other videos 😅
6:30 yes, it is more consistent that way. And it's because the forward input gets registered way faster than the attack input, so while you may think that you are doing them at the same time the game doesn't recognize that therefore you don't get a super counter.
No wonder it feels like the input is on point but isn't consistent... when that physical hit doesn't register until it goes past your body, that's why it feels like the counter should work but doesn't. Thats super helpful thanks!
That's the exact mind set that will get you nowhere in life. I bring my A game and mentality no matter what I do. Whether it's video games or wiping a window. I will always give it my all and THAT is why I succeed.
I like your comment and I like what the other guy said. But you should know! Playing an intensive battle can activate your Haki (Flow), that's where you can really start to read your opponent and learn in the middle of the battle!
And basically what I see a lot of players doing is once they take a bit of damage, they start panic attacking you. They lose composure. But honestly, you have so much health! No need to lose your cool! Take a step back and let your opponent come to you in panic because they think they got an advantage 😊
fr it is so useless online with people''s lag, you'd be better off vanishing. Characters also have different framse fast are easier to counter than slow ones and use different frames. Counter was reliable and easier in the old tenkaichi because it was slower.
Yo its been amazing to see how you posted this great video about Super Counters, it performs extremely well with good views, but then 48 hours we see so many "How To Super Counter" videos popping up everywhere 😂 Good job mate💯 Ive seen atleast 3 posted today 💀
I think the reason you hit the super counter more reliably when you hit the direction input then the attack input afterword is because of just how insanely tight and late the window is in the attack animation to actually pull off a super counter.
He hits it more reliably simply because he's good with mouse and keyboard. Input latency is non existent and you can hit every single key at once if you need to.
Actual first person I see who is playing sparking zero on keyboard, you are wild. Also thanks for this detailed explanation, time to invest some hours into training to get the technique down
@@Tymiershouldn’t be this hard in the first place should be hard yes but to this point , kinda stupid ik people will say skill issue or get good but it’s really just hard for no reason to the point it feels like luck when u hit it
@Unknown-il3md its really not that bad honestly, i recommend hopping in a training session and setting it to chains and just spend a little time trying to land it consistently
I have a hypothesis, it may be something close to the P-link in Street Fighter 4 or more broadly a buffer. In this case, the game has an interpretation of your inputs that is favorable to you. When you do forward on 1 frame then attack on the next frame, the game validates froward and attacks on 2 frames and therefore you have twice as many frames to counter.
Im not sure about the attack that go through u are the right time to counter, but the tip about first going forward and then pressing attack is so much helpful. Tried it today and i have been hitting counters regularly now. Great video 👍
@@premiumc2282 I release the key after the input but when I have to time the counter again I do the same thing explained in the video, first the forward key and then the attack button.
Thank you for the timing! Pressing up on a analog stick and pressing up on key on a keyboard are 2 different things I wish I could press a button as up cause it’s just outlandish to me
You have to press up and X simultaneously on a controller and that is nearly impossible. You can't just hold up on the analog stick. You have to travel that analog stick up and down every .3 seconds
The problem with practicing super counter offline is that it’s a totally different timing online because of the connection delays. Wish there was a setting where you could practice with that connection delay offline. That was actually possible in another fighting game way back (think it was Tekken 5:DR or T6).
For my console demons I gotchu, if u are on classic controls countering use your dpad instead of the analog easier timing since u don’t have to worry about flicking the stick
I’ve more or less learned everything I need to know. I just gotta improve on this and using tech dashes to get behind my opponent, but this has helped a whole load. My power level is rising, overflowing😂😂
even though you explain this very well and show frame by fram, in real time the game goes so fast that it' just feels rng, i dont have the reaction time to see the first through me, it's so hard
A few extra notes here;
there is a 12 frame cooldown for Super Counter input but most of the time it feels irrelevant.
Super Counters are actually easier in this game compared to Tenkaichi 3 for another reason entirely; every single smash for the most part, has a much clearer visual cue or hitbox than it did in Tenkaichi 2 & 3. This alone makes it significantly easier for you to decipher when you actually have to try to input the Super Counter.
The timing is still more or less the same or retains the same concept from Tenkaichi 3, it's as the strike lands on you, but it is easier in this game because of 60fps & because of clearer hitboxes.
Hope this helps everyone to learn. If enough efficient guides are uploaded on this I may not have to do a guide myself.
Good work on the video, Tymier.
Thank you so much for the knowledge my man. We all appreciate it! ❤️🙏🏽
This man got the sharingan u tell me u see those frames that fast? Yea u got it bro
And my two goats becoming friends. We love to see it !
Source for the 12 frame cooldown on super counter?
Is the timing of Super Counters and Vanishing the same? I can hit a Vanish with 95% accuracy but Super counters are more difficult, and I can't understand if I'm hitting it early, or it's due to the frame timing. From your analysis I seem to understand that for Vanishing you want to hit it slightly before getting hit, while for Super Counters just a frame after actually getting hit?
Nice to see a video that isn't just click bait.
The vast majority of videos out there are something along the lines of "how to be a GOD at countering" then the video is just them reading the tutorial aloud.
Thanks for putting out an actual detailed guide!
that video really pissed me off, specially with how many views and likes it had.
Well some ppl need that before they get to this video so someone had to make a video on it 😂
Ps5 native input delay + Wifi Warriors + Delay Based Netcode: *Allow me to introduce myself*
So if im on wifi should i do it sooner?
@@tonyt_mp4744 If you are on wifi buy an ethernet cable for better experience for you but your opponent too
@@tonyt_mp4744that’s the crazy part, you can’t cause if you do it to early it’ll put a small cooldown on it
earlier today i was thinking everybody "explains" fighting game mechanics but never does frame by frame breakdowns on how it works. this is so fucking helpful.
Its like he said. A lot of video are guys who have no idea what they're talking about.
They just followed the tutorial and played a bit.
Lol it’s intentional. They wanna come off as helpful for the content but lowkey gatekeep the actual method so people still struggle in ranked
@@SonGokuuuuuuu ong mfs cant actual think everyone has their best interests in mind. They tryna keep the new players bad.
Fr
they do for actual fighting games
This is honestly the first video I’ve heard anyone explain that you counter after you are technically hit, tremendously helpful, I really felt like anytime other people were explaining they were just saying practice until you get the timing down, which is a very vague statement, and besides the timing in training is much different than online 👍🏾
@@jplays2much Looks like a mix of both. You can tell if its an online match by the usernames at the top by the health bars.
thats the difference betwen the words hit and land. piccolo said that.
i want you to know that technical nitty gritty videos like these for what people could consider basic counterplay is one of the MOST IMPORTANT THINGS people overlook and im very grateful for this video
0:36 yeah those people are definitely engagement farming. i’m glad you call this out because it’s so many clickbait videos saying the same thing “do the same thing the tutorial says. or just practice lol”
this is exactly what i was looking for. the nerdy explanation for how to super counter. thank you so much!
here we are, we are about to leave the general button smashing era. And enter the era where everyone will know how to super counter, the fights will no longer be about who super counters better but who has the better mix ups combos since changing your tempo each combo can avoid to get super countered.
Is that why I’m having a difficult time getting super counters with SOME people but not with others?! I’ve been wondering…
@@camfreed9829maybe depending on the character? I find it a lot easier super countering the faster hitting characters compared to the slower hitting ones e.g. broly
@@shaggywali9575 its because the fast hitting characters got way more punches meaning you got way more windows, the character doesnt even need to be a fast type to be easily super countered, almost every character has that one move where they hit you fast with their legs, that move offers so many super counter windows its ridiculous.
Won't matter. Controllers can't move the stick fully and press the button at the exact same time within a 4 frame window
3:57 "You see that? You see that?"
No, I don't see shit. XD this is my first dbz game and I'm loving it, super helpful guide that helps break down actual things instead of "yeah so when the enemy attacks y'gonna want to super counter". Thanks man, see you at the top.
Summary based on my comprehension: Don't treat super counter as high speed evasion where you will press guard after the animation started, instead do super counter when you see the animation is about to end.
Yes
Bro this is exactly what im learning and understood from this video! That window as tymier explained is super close but if you understand how it works, can do it. Im not saying i got it yet, but this and how it was explained is helping me to get it more often than not
Today I was playing and practicing the super counter, and I learned how to do it the way you mentioned in the video, without pressing the buttons together. Then I wondered if anyone was teaching the counter in an easier way, and I found you. That's when I understood about the frames. Thank you, I will train again. I'm from Brazil, but your videos from the U.S. have been the best teaching so far.
Realmente. Me senti numa graduação
“up (slight delay) square” might be the single greatest piece of advice ive seen in a dragon ball video
LETS GET HIM TO 15! You’re one of the best content creators for sparking zero. When we ask for a video you release it a day later with great quality all around. I just wish your vids were longer but you’re killing it bro bro 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Kap
He's at 15 !
I don't know what's more amazing how consistently he pulls off super counters or the fact he's doing it all on keyboard
idk why people act like keyboard is hard especially for fighting games. its much easier and less taxing on your fingers than a controller would be
@@ishtargrishtartrue keyboard is easier
@@ishtargrishtarkeyboard is way easier
@@ishtargrishtar this is highly dependent on the person which uses the input. There are different kind of controller too...
Copium comments
@@Raylz-h9c i mean yeah it does come down to preference at the end of the day (and sometimes the game just wont have proper keyboard support) but people really love to overestimate the difficulty of keyboard. im just saying it's not and at most it would take a week to get the hang of it if not less
Hey man, doing breakdowns like this shows a step above most content creators. You can feel the time and effort you put in to actually TEACH people. Definitely subscribing and keep up the good work, passion in your work shines through in stuff like this
First super counter video with frames breakdown, deserves a like. This would be even better if you could show us in which frames you send the inputs
All of them lol. He's just showing a very nice example of 3 times he got it right
I think when people say super counter is rng, they mean that it is humanly impossible to perceive its timing unless you have a sharingan, so you’re better off relying on rng
What is rng?
rng bc host has priority/inputs are horrible
@@dj33781rng=random generated number. Basically luck.
@@dj33781rng means random number generator i believe. He’s basically saying you’re better off relying on this counter randomly working than trusting your own ability to perceive the exact moment when to counter. I pretty much agree cause there’s just no way my eyes can catch the first going through my character’s body when I’m playing full speed
@@dillonwilliams4416eventually it becomes muscle memory so you won’t have to look for it so in detail every time
Best way to do it is to compare it to music. Listen to the rhythm of the punches. On the beat (the punch) you press square, on the off beat (the dead noise in between punches) you flick up.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS VIDEO. The forward -> attack advice really helped me finally nail down super countering.
Man's said: "You see that?" *Unpauses clip to him immediately super countering* "You see that?" ... 🗿 I guess let me just see the future or something easier 😔
"You see that?" No i didn't. I'm too old bro
I was looking for a comment that said some like this 😂😂
Bro is everywhere 😂
Bro I did the same thing
It’s just your power level brother 😆
Thx for the detailed explanation, made me realisize im not complete trash, i was simply consistently too early. Understanding models and hitboxes made a huge diff, ty!
this is dope, This could be used for when you're stuck in vanishing against the opponent to stop it and gain an advantage
@@SwiftSSJ It doesn't stop anything because your opponent can just vanish a Super Counter and repeat the exact same loop. It's not as reliable as just a normal z counter
@@mugen4516super counter doesn't use ki and vanish battles will end when one person runs out if ki
@mugen4516 the point is even though it can be vanished, when you are in a vanish war you and your opponent are stuck in a rhythm. Throwing out one of these breaks that rhythm and momentum and your opponent is most likely not gonna be ready for it and will probably mistime their next input or not register it at all until they've been hit.
But super counter requires no meter. Look at the first clip. I won the engagement because I used a defense mechanic that hits 360. He lost since he was using a mechanic that requires meter
@@Tymier this too
bro literally, watched three videos on how to get out of back shots (pause) and all three were just talking about nonsense. Thanks for actual good vid!
Clearest explanation of landing a super counter I've seen on UA-cam without just trying to grab quick views🤧
Genuinely helpful unlike the other super counter guides I saw before this one. When they explained that its easier to move up before pressing attack they did not explain how tight the window is like this. Finally starting to do it somewhat consistently in training.
this video was actually really informative, because while i could do super counters, but i was pretty inconsistent. thank you for breaking it down and explaining it.
for controller players i suggest hitting the attack button first then left stick up, since left stick doesn’t take much effort to register going up small threshold
He liked it is this true?!!?
not better to play with Dpad instead? just asking
@@NicanorVillanueva8 standard cant do this only classic
This is literally almost the best Sparking Zero video!!
Tymier saying "you see that? you see that?"
Me shouting alone in my room "I SEE IT, I CAN SEE IT OH MY G-"
Now I can counter kakarot. Thank you tymier
Bro might be Vegeta 🔥🔥🔥
WTF LMFAO
@@ITS_STEINSGATEJOYCONBOYZ4LIFE
@@darkk_darkk Nah he's Broly. Vegeta would never be so polite
@@CityEscapist1220 YESSIR
Taking this into practice right now my man. Thank you so much for the in-depth analysis. It’s the one thing I wish this game did a better job at explaining. Glorious work. Keep up the grind.
Man... i've seen sooo many video promising crazy tech and then just saying "so uh super counters are good, press it and you win".
Thanks for actually providing quality content.
literally have a whole playlist named "sparking zero guide" with just this guys videos on it lol fr tho this is srsly helpful
Edit:guys it’s literally just a playlist named sparking zero guides with just this guys and maybe a bunch of other videos 😅
u gotta make it public i lowkey wanna see it
Lol same bro. Except mines is called Sparking Zero Hands 👊🏾
Lmao me too 💀💀
(But with other people's videos aswell of course)
@nanazsan7536 then look at the yt'ers videos. He just said they are all him.
@@Six-bw3ir Y'all on yall grind I love that
6:30 yes, it is more consistent that way.
And it's because the forward input gets registered way faster than the attack input, so while you may think that you are doing them at the same time the game doesn't recognize that therefore you don't get a super counter.
The flicking the stick first then attack is a game changer and does work more for sure
Loving seeing you grow so fast outside of mvs bro, been a fan sense beta mvs days
❤️❤️❤️❤️
No wonder it feels like the input is on point but isn't consistent... when that physical hit doesn't register until it goes past your body, that's why it feels like the counter should work but doesn't. Thats super helpful thanks!
The "forward key THEN attack key" has made it WAY easier. Bless.
nah if i got super countered like that 3 times back to back id just mentally give up, like nah bro you got it LMAO
That's the exact mind set that will get you nowhere in life. I bring my A game and mentality no matter what I do. Whether it's video games or wiping a window. I will always give it my all and THAT is why I succeed.
I like your comment and I like what the other guy said. But you should know! Playing an intensive battle can activate your Haki (Flow), that's where you can really start to read your opponent and learn in the middle of the battle!
And basically what I see a lot of players doing is once they take a bit of damage, they start panic attacking you. They lose composure. But honestly, you have so much health! No need to lose your cool! Take a step back and let your opponent come to you in panic because they think they got an advantage 😊
@@mph38 it's not that deep bro
@@Nodnarb59 don't @ me again
Love you Tymier been subbed since early multiversus beta you always break things down properly and give good information not just for clickbait views
every ytbr just says press and learn but goddamn this is what i needed ,
finally an actual in depth slow mo, everyone else just hand waves it
Finally, a good explanation on super counter. I always treat super counter like normal evasion, and it failed me hard. Will try it later
In the old games and in this, it is the same wissle . Listen for a sound . It is even in beams and explorations.
I really appreciate this it has def felt like rng at times😂 At least I know the real timing now
Added this to my "Sparking zero guide" playlist 😂
Ngl im tired of people saying to follow visual cues because HOW DO YOU EXPECT ME TO NOTICE SOMETHING AND REACT WITHIN A 4 FRAME WINDOW
fr it is so useless online with people''s lag, you'd be better off vanishing. Characters also have different framse fast are easier to counter than slow ones and use different frames. Counter was reliable and easier in the old tenkaichi because it was slower.
Yeesh guy I dont like to say it but it all comes down to skill issue it’s hard tho so less of a diss more of a hard mode difference in it
I had to subscribe, this is dedication right here
I try my hardest 😭😭😭
An actual deep dive on the mechanic this Is what weve been waiting for
You’re so close to 15k it’s insane. It’s awesome to see your growth and transition bro. Love the content my man keep it up! 🔥❤️
One of the best Videos so far
Yo its been amazing to see how you posted this great video about Super Counters, it performs extremely well with good views, but then 48 hours we see so many "How To Super Counter" videos popping up everywhere 😂 Good job mate💯
Ive seen atleast 3 posted today 💀
Been fw you since back when multiverses was fun, amazing player amazing teacher 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
This is such a helpful guide thank you keep up the good work brazza def got a new subscriber 🙏❤️
bro i´m playing Sparking Zero with keyboard and i just found your channel
I love you new sub
3:10 his hand is in a risky location
Diddy activity
Freaky ah counter
Bro was super adult about that tho don’t even notice.. you diddy boppers
Its the DIDDY PELVIS
Just want to claim that I was here early before you blow up and become the GOAT of this game
😭❤️❤️
@@Tymier bro is STILL the goat
I think the reason you hit the super counter more reliably when you hit the direction input then the attack input afterword is because of just how insanely tight and late the window is in the attack animation to actually pull off a super counter.
He hits it more reliably simply because he's good with mouse and keyboard. Input latency is non existent and you can hit every single key at once if you need to.
After this masterpiece, I'm defiantly subbing. Super helpful bro!
nice video and all that, but...
DA VINCI'S TUTORIAL?!?!?!? immaculate music taste!!
💕💕
3:52 okay now i feel like one of the weaklings when goku is fighting some alien in the sky
Easy subscribe from me, this is a great tutorial and breakdown, I appreciate the effort you put into explain
The opening part of the video was perfect 🎉
Thank gooooood finally a video that explains it the right way! Lol
1. Awesome video i love these in depth explanations
2. YOOO LBP MUSIC DAVINCI HIDEOUT THE GOATTT
I love lbp🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽
Actual first person I see who is playing sparking zero on keyboard, you are wild.
Also thanks for this detailed explanation, time to invest some hours into training to get the technique down
Sick guide, just tried to make my first one, but your pacing is a lot better. Gonna try to learn
You see that? You see that? You see that?
No
Bro during a normal match, ain’t no way I’m seeing a hand going through my body and time it perfectly
You are one of the best if not the best content creator for this game
I come from mortal kombat,and when I heard the time window to super counter is 4 frames,I knew this shit can't be mastered
It can b, j more hours and anticipation
@@Tymiershouldn’t be this hard in the first place should be hard yes but to this point , kinda stupid ik people will say skill issue or get good but it’s really just hard for no reason to the point it feels like luck when u hit it
@@Unknown-il3mdkeep practicing dude i can hit basically all the counters in this game consistently
@ fair play bud
@Unknown-il3md its really not that bad honestly, i recommend hopping in a training session and setting it to chains and just spend a little time trying to land it consistently
Thanks for this, I subbed.
Thank you sir for telling us about the super counter in a view of a mangekyou sharingan user
😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Vegito putting his fist through Gogeta and pulling it back like OOPS
That's how I was doing it !
Thanks for the precision, so that was when to do it xD
Have a great Day/Night !
Give this man a like to be the only UA-camr to show his hands folks
Got my sub for the in-depth video. Now to practice
This hella in depth im ngl. NEEDES THIS MIER 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Bet I’m finna try this when I get home. LIKED AND COMMENTED LETS GO
Hi I liked and commented you
Let’s go I love this vid it helps a lot. Easily the best teacher of this on the platform. Advanced movement guide when.
I have a hypothesis, it may be something close to the P-link in Street Fighter 4 or more broadly a buffer. In this case, the game has an interpretation of your inputs that is favorable to you. When you do forward on 1 frame then attack on the next frame, the game validates froward and attacks on 2 frames and therefore you have twice as many frames to counter.
Im not sure about the attack that go through u are the right time to counter, but the tip about first going forward and then pressing attack is so much helpful. Tried it today and i have been hitting counters regularly now. Great video 👍
🤝🏾🙏🏽🙏🏽🤝🏾🙏🏽🤝🏾🙏🏽🤝🏾🤝🏾
@tymier so do you release off of up key after u press it once? Or do you hold up then tap hit key
@@premiumc2282 I release the key after the input but when I have to time the counter again I do the same thing explained in the video, first the forward key and then the attack button.
going crazy
Twin still tapped in
This was really helpful everyone else just post click bait
2:53 bro really did that
You're goated bro
Thanks dude, this was great!
Thank you for the timing!
Pressing up on a analog stick and pressing up on key on a keyboard are 2 different things I wish I could press a button as up cause it’s just outlandish to me
Huh?
You have to press up and X simultaneously on a controller and that is nearly impossible. You can't just hold up on the analog stick. You have to travel that analog stick up and down every .3 seconds
@@Infamous159 yeah don’t hold up, however if you slowly press it up then tap square (ps) then it should work that’s how I do mines consistently
My 🐐
The problem with practicing super counter offline is that it’s a totally different timing online because of the connection delays. Wish there was a setting where you could practice with that connection delay offline. That was actually possible in another fighting game way back (think it was Tekken 5:DR or T6).
Bro U CAN SUPER COUNTER IN VANISH BATTLES? WATTT? This timing has to be godly asf ima glaze idx
It's your last resort when you end up with no more ki to vanish anymore
The Littlebigplanet 2 ost behind the vidéo 🥹
💕
2:50... pause. Lol
His face went through me, his fish went through me, his fist went through me 😂😂😂😂😂 ayyyooooooo lol good video tho
@@isabellareyes9429 😭😭😭😭😭😭
Yo lmao I’m sitting here like wait a minute.
@@NamesNu lol 😆
this is exactly what i needed to know. every other youtube video is just farming views
Goated video
Great video of slowmotion, thanks! Very helpful
BRO the forward then attack tip was perfect for keyboard wow
For my console demons I gotchu, if u are on classic controls countering use your dpad instead of the analog easier timing since u don’t have to worry about flicking the stick
I’ve more or less learned everything I need to know. I just gotta improve on this and using tech dashes to get behind my opponent, but this has helped a whole load. My power level is rising, overflowing😂😂
even though you explain this very well and show frame by fram, in real time the game goes so fast that it' just feels rng, i dont have the reaction time to see the first through me, it's so hard
@@federicocapriotti2180 pay attention to the bak of your player model and input a super counter when the fist is thru you
@@Tymier what do you mean for bak?