I was wondering why people keep saying both buttons. I've never used both before it's just timing. You can however guard into it so while blocking you can press circle mid combo to pull it off just gotta hit the timing
As Roshi has said: "We must learn the art of peace as we learn the art of war." This video gives a lot of good advice on each defensive/counter moves. And my piss poor defense could use some improvement.
0:44 sonic sway 1:13 deflecting ki blast 1:31 perception 2:20 revenge counter (can be countered by perception B) 2:40 vanish 3:12 super counter/z counter ps. I would also say side stepping can be considered a defensive option in this game (more of a tech) especially for countering Z burst dash
Finally a video that explains things in a simple way. Well done really man. While others even nust upload themselves playing the tutorials telling you you need to soend time on that, you actually explain things
This was a really well made video dude, I'll definitely pass this around to the homies who're trying to get better, looking forward to more advanced guides!
On another note though, what’s your ranked experience so far? I haven’t been able to play the game yet but I’d like to know more about starting with transformations compared to transforming during the match in ranked 1v1s. (where each person can bring one character) And which game mode do you like better 1v1s or team battles?
@@cliff__ My experience is pretty mixed especially since I got the game both on PC and Playstation. I kinda like games with 1 character only, but teams are cool too as long as the point system is in place, otherwise the 5v5 format is just Chaos. I can appreciate chaos sometimes, but not all the time if that makes sense. I’ve heard Ragequitters are pretty frequent but so far I’ve met none. For now it doesn’t seem like you get a HUGE advantage if you transform, but this is just the first week so I could be wrong. I’d treat transformations as separate characters. To me it feels more rewarding when I can transform from base to the highest level mid-game but one of my friend preffers to start off with Broly fully powered up so to each their own. Eventually when I have a better understanding about the game I’ll drop a review but for now that’s how I feel. This is a cool game that has far more depth than what I’ve thought it’s gonna have
Valid valid, lots of testing fir transformations need to be done, I just need to know if it’s worth it to pull off the cool looking transformations and do a 180 to the match with it hahaha. Anyways, I’ll look forward to your in-depth informative ranked experience!!!!
the z counter is specifically when you counter a follow-up vanishing attack, and starts the back and forth of vanishes til one mistimes/no ki left. a vanish is just the standard dodge for head-on rush attacks and blasts. and the super counter is the tricky one that counters pretty much any melee attack from any direction.
Be noted that super counters can be chained together. That means that you can super counter and then be super countered or z-countered yourself. So, if you are going to be hit by a super counter you can try to vanish or super counter yourself.
This is amazing I discovered this stuff today but you explained it perfectly so I'll definitely be sending my viewers here to watch this explanation as it's better than anything I could have said on the topic! Amazing video
the question is how to recover from having your back turned, once you start getting hit from the back there isn't much that can be done at least from what I noticed
The only way is with the Super Counter. Super counter works in every single situation, but since it’s frame perfect it’s very hard to pull off, but it works even if your being hit from the back, and every situation you can vanish, this works then too! It’s just a harder
FYI for recovery assist, it will make you do the same recovery every time so u cant do mix ups for recovery. Not that important but learning how to play without it would be helpful
Ur wording is prefect bro especially for those who don’t know rush attacks is just press one button repeatedly and smash attack just the game name for heavy attack
@3:18 You can actually do a super counter while your opponent is attacking you from behind. I have a video of me doing it on my channel for anyone wondering.
I was very good at defense in the older games. I was so happy when my skills still held up after all these years. I z-countered the shit out of my opponent in my first online match. Felt like an old man who still had his athleticism. Had me like: Yup! I still got it! 👴🏿
I can’t Z/super counter in this game consistently for the life of me. Idk how you do it. In tenkaichi 3 I could do it more frequently than I can in this game.
Sonic sway only needs ⭕with standard controls. Deflecting blasts is not just flashy, look under your characters health bar after doing it, you get a 3 level boost to ki charging. Revenge counter kind of sucks though, it's a huge cost for not much gain. Much better to use those skill points on actual skills
It's funny that you find the vanishing so difficult. It's possibly the only defensive mechanic I've been able to take to fairly easily. It helped me realize how fucked the AI is in way too many episode battles when I chained 7, yes SEVEN vanish counters in a row against Vegito in the Black story and still got hit. Not to mention him wrecking my shit in general.
@@pota7opotato573 Yeah I've watched some people playing this an it seems incredibly lame how much of a fight is spent between people just dodging back and forth over and over again. I've got very little interest in making myself miserable against playing online and only plan on doing it maybe Friday and Saturday while people still suck and I have the highest chance of enjoying myself against the influx of less sweaty players getting the game.
Iirc the super perception on a beam gives you a massive Ki-charge buff So if you are low on Ki or wanna go into sparking mode (for 3 bars) its actually not that bad
Every time you make a video, I am amazed you don’t have more subs I’m really happy you were on globku channel otherwise I would have never found your channel and ty I needed this video lol the piccolo advanced training was not enough to use the mechanics in actual matches 😂
A lot of stuff I’ve learned about UA-cam, Thumbnails and Editing videos are because of his influence. Not only did he give me a bunch of UA-cam advice over the past couple of years, but also taught me much about Editing 👍 Coincidentally he also gave a quick feedback regarding this video
@@TraitorPC that’s awesome I’m glad he is as cool as he seems in the videos I am so excited for the upcoming tournaments hopefully you can commentate on some of them, especially Demon slayer I miss those old wanted videos lol
2:19 Nope, this buff is actually meta. If you play on high elo you'll have a way less time charging your ki, so if the opponent is dumb enough to throw a ki blast on neutral you get a huge worth out of it and take advantage or just end the fight a way faster
Issue I’m having is how to defend or counter a Z Rush. When they rush to you and automatically land behind you there has to be a way to counter that. It’s so annoying when fighting someone like Whis who is already busted, then the z rush gives you a free combo everytime. Anyone know how to counter this?
Bro the super counters in this game feel off, like trying to do them against kid buu and it feels like I’m hitting the input perfectly but it doesn’t counter.
How do you deal with unblockable attacks and ultimates I can’t dodge them due to there insane tracking especially beams and obviously I can’t block so what do I do here ?
I use classic controls for the nostalgia. Also, Im pretty much used to those older controls because I played the emulator before getting this game. How do I do perception?
I'm still getting trapped in combos and whenever I try to do one of my own the CPU keeps telaporting behind me and bring me onto another combo. It's really frustrating
I don't remember Budokai Tekaichi 3 being nearly as deep as this. Granted, it has been a LOONG time since I played it, but I remember I was pretty good. Now I'm getting bodied by the CPU. And I'm used to traditional hardcore fighting games such as Guilty Gear Accent Core.
Guard assist DOES NOT mess up your inputs on standard mode. People need to stop spreading this myth around. Test it in training mode the auto guard does not count as a button press meaning you can be IN THE GUARD ANIMATION and still tap the button to vanish or anything else you wanna do!! In fact most of the assist options won’t interfere with manual inputs at all. People are just saying this without any testing
any advice for playing against dragon homing dash spammers? (the one where you double dash and go behind them) i’m not entirely sure how to consistently defend or at least avoid attacks at my backside like that. just gotta vanish time it?
WAT 2 DU GUEN BAC SHOTS I have really bad issue when oponent teleports behind and does full combo what can I do against this. Or people spamming perception
He's absolutely right. I've realized this mistake when I've uploaded the video. For the views the video got it's kind of embarassing to make such a mistake
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By the way, for sonic sway you don’t need to press both buttons. Just press circle, you need to time it right. I do it all the time.
u need a analog input for it
I was wondering why people keep saying both buttons. I've never used both before it's just timing. You can however guard into it so while blocking you can press circle mid combo to pull it off just gotta hit the timing
@@arabiannninjaa1909 This
Some people are using classic controls like myself @@arabiannninjaa1909
this is only for standard controls, Classic controls need both circle and triangle
This what I been needing. Offense is great. But so far I've been feeling weak on defense
Same same
As Roshi has said:
"We must learn the art of peace as we learn the art of war."
This video gives a lot of good advice on each defensive/counter moves.
And my piss poor defense could use some improvement.
There is an input delay online also. Some matches are so laggy the counter will not work.
Same here. I’ve been teaching myself meh combos, but my defense has been sooo poor.
It's crazy all yall commented/liked. After watching the video I dont feel the same way. He didn't give any new info.
No wonder my perception against revenge never works two skill points is crazy😭
that’s high cost low reward
Low reward? Lmao you can't get infinite combo'ed
@@jstnfrdo you even pay attention nigga
@@ITZBROKENhotDOG12sure but it's not reliable because it can get countered.
@@Eis7how do u counter it? I just cant figure it out lol
I feel like i gotta go super saiyan myself to keep up with this game... i love it
Fr it really forces you to implement several strategies, train, read your opponents moves and play smart
0:44 sonic sway
1:13 deflecting ki blast
1:31 perception
2:20 revenge counter (can be countered by perception B)
2:40 vanish
3:12 super counter/z counter
ps. I would also say side stepping can be considered a defensive option in this game (more of a tech) especially for countering Z burst dash
I cannot tell you how much this helped me out, seriously, thanks
I’m glad it was useful to you🤝
You might want to disable recovery assist too, it will override how you want to recover, so you can’t do mix ups
I did notice that sometimes. Yeah.
Finally a video that explains things in a simple way. Well done really man. While others even nust upload themselves playing the tutorials telling you you need to soend time on that, you actually explain things
This was a really well made video dude, I'll definitely pass this around to the homies who're trying to get better, looking forward to more advanced guides!
More to come down the line, I just hope I don’t get anything wrong, this game is far more complicated than I’ve thought👌
On another note though, what’s your ranked experience so far? I haven’t been able to play the game yet but I’d like to know more about starting with transformations compared to transforming during the match in ranked 1v1s. (where each person can bring one character) And which game mode do you like better 1v1s or team battles?
@@cliff__ My experience is pretty mixed especially since I got the game both on PC and Playstation. I kinda like games with 1 character only, but teams are cool too as long as the point system is in place, otherwise the 5v5 format is just Chaos. I can appreciate chaos sometimes, but not all the time if that makes sense. I’ve heard Ragequitters are pretty frequent but so far I’ve met none. For now it doesn’t seem like you get a HUGE advantage if you transform, but this is just the first week so I could be wrong. I’d treat transformations as separate characters. To me it feels more rewarding when I can transform from base to the highest level mid-game but one of my friend preffers to start off with Broly fully powered up so to each their own.
Eventually when I have a better understanding about the game I’ll drop a review but for now that’s how I feel. This is a cool game that has far more depth than what I’ve thought it’s gonna have
Valid valid, lots of testing fir transformations need to be done, I just need to know if it’s worth it to pull off the cool looking transformations and do a 180 to the match with it hahaha. Anyways, I’ll look forward to your in-depth informative ranked experience!!!!
Oh and I’ll definitely join the discord 😎
The advice about paying attention to the sound for super counters is really good!
Short, to the point and clear, great video.
This is a fantastic guide video, I hope you make more like this for other mechanics!
the z counter is specifically when you counter a follow-up vanishing attack, and starts the back and forth of vanishes til one mistimes/no ki left. a vanish is just the standard dodge for head-on rush attacks and blasts. and the super counter is the tricky one that counters pretty much any melee attack from any direction.
I suck at both well really I suck at Z vanishing online but not offline but super counter yeah I can never get that i don’t get it
goated video, beating ssj4 gogeta's online with yajirobe using nothing but defense
"he just kept on tryinf to smash me"
Be noted that super counters can be chained together. That means that you can super counter and then be super countered or z-countered yourself. So, if you are going to be hit by a super counter you can try to vanish or super counter yourself.
Nice video! Would like to see an offensive guide next!
Planning to release that video today, but we'll see if I can finish the video up, Offense feels a bit more complicated than Defense so far
Thanks for the great teaching format, very chill & easy to understand🏆Time to train!💨
Thanks! was wondering about the revenge counter counter animation, as I didn't know what I had done.
Appreciate it!
Thanks for these vids!
This is amazing I discovered this stuff today but you explained it perfectly so I'll definitely be sending my viewers here to watch this explanation as it's better than anything I could have said on the topic! Amazing video
the question is how to recover from having your back turned,
once you start getting hit from the back there isn't much that can be done
at least from what I noticed
I agree and i hate when people in sparking mode just spam light attack
Seems like the only way to recover is landing a super counter but it's pretty hard to land consistently
Hope they fix this part, other than that game is perfect
The only way is with the Super Counter. Super counter works in every single situation, but since it’s frame perfect it’s very hard to pull off, but it works even if your being hit from the back, and every situation you can vanish, this works then too! It’s just a harder
Can i spam super counter or do i have only one chance per combo string. Game is pretty unclear on that.
Thanks a lot man very helpful 👍
FYI for recovery assist, it will make you do the same recovery every time so u cant do mix ups for recovery. Not that important but learning how to play without it would be helpful
Well explained no bs 4 minute intros thanks for that
One of the hardest parts of this game is learning all the terminology
Ur wording is prefect bro especially for those who don’t know rush attacks is just press one button repeatedly and smash attack just the game name for heavy attack
Please make a movement video! This was very good!
That crazy Super counter is hard to pull off
@3:18 You can actually do a super counter while your opponent is attacking you from behind. I have a video of me doing it on my channel for anyone wondering.
I was very good at defense in the older games. I was so happy when my skills still held up after all these years.
I z-countered the shit out of my opponent in my first online match. Felt like an old man who still had his athleticism.
Had me like: Yup! I still got it! 👴🏿
It was luck lol it happened to me you don’t have it, it’s luck 😂
I can’t Z/super counter in this game consistently for the life of me. Idk how you do it. In tenkaichi 3 I could do it more frequently than I can in this game.
@@TheScepter25yes same s2 right now in
yall have been fucking us newcomers up real good, we got a lot to learn 😭
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Get that bread king🙏🏻 Hopefully you rack up some views because this is super useful and detailed for newer players and more experienced players alike
As long as People enjoy these type of videos, I’ll keep doing them👍
Definitely gonna have to get these counter mechanics perfected 😤
Sonic sway only needs ⭕with standard controls. Deflecting blasts is not just flashy, look under your characters health bar after doing it, you get a 3 level boost to ki charging. Revenge counter kind of sucks though, it's a huge cost for not much gain. Much better to use those skill points on actual skills
Bro said try and vanish 2 times in a row meanwhile me and bro are vanishing back and forth until our Ki runs out😭
It's funny that you find the vanishing so difficult. It's possibly the only defensive mechanic I've been able to take to fairly easily. It helped me realize how fucked the AI is in way too many episode battles when I chained 7, yes SEVEN vanish counters in a row against Vegito in the Black story and still got hit. Not to mention him wrecking my shit in general.
I'll be real its mandatory online. I had like a 20 something vanish streak with someone in ranked ystd lol.
@@pota7opotato573 Yeah I've watched some people playing this an it seems incredibly lame how much of a fight is spent between people just dodging back and forth over and over again. I've got very little interest in making myself miserable against playing online and only plan on doing it maybe Friday and Saturday while people still suck and I have the highest chance of enjoying myself against the influx of less sweaty players getting the game.
Learned so much from this..😂 my old method was button mash and maybe sometimes I’ll teleport behind them 😭😭
Diving in more and there’s so many more aspects of defence than just this video. SIDE STEPS are super useful and under-utilized!!
✅ This was a really great video bro! Very well edited and explained! I’ll definitely be sharing this around
I have to Admit this game is far more advanced than I thought initially, more guides are on the way!
@@TraitorPC 100% agree with you there! Defo caught me off guard 😂
Spectacular 🎉
TYSM I NEEDED THIS
Iirc the super perception on a beam gives you a massive Ki-charge buff
So if you are low on Ki or wanna go into sparking mode (for 3 bars) its actually not that bad
I think you do better in this game when ur more aggressive but you just know how to counter a lot
Can't wait to play online as Tien, Yamcha, or EVEN Krillen with rheze moves
Every time you make a video, I am amazed you don’t have more subs I’m really happy you were on globku channel otherwise I would have never found your channel and ty I needed this video lol the piccolo advanced training was not enough to use the mechanics in actual matches 😂
A lot of stuff I’ve learned about UA-cam, Thumbnails and Editing videos are because of his influence. Not only did he give me a bunch of UA-cam advice over the past couple of years, but also taught me much about Editing 👍
Coincidentally he also gave a quick feedback regarding this video
@@TraitorPC that’s awesome I’m glad he is as cool as he seems in the videos I am so excited for the upcoming tournaments hopefully you can commentate on some of them, especially Demon slayer I miss those old wanted videos lol
2:19 Nope, this buff is actually meta. If you play on high elo you'll have a way less time charging your ki, so if the opponent is dumb enough to throw a ki blast on neutral you get a huge worth out of it and take advantage or just end the fight a way faster
Issue I’m having is how to defend or counter a Z Rush. When they rush to you and automatically land behind you there has to be a way to counter that. It’s so annoying when fighting someone like Whis who is already busted, then the z rush gives you a free combo everytime. Anyone know how to counter this?
Brooo same!!
Sidestep or block/ counter when they are behind u
Or do that dash urself mid theirs
@@cryhfox-gamingandanimenews9992 I saw a video of someone sidestepping it after they appeared behind them I’ll have to try that out!
U have to time the transmission and press B or Circle
super counter can be done easier by just mashing it instead of timing it apparently
Facts! I found much better success by mashing instead of trying to time it.
With d pad and square? Or with analog?
Back in the Budokai Tenkaichi series (2 and 3 especially) it was impossible to vanish or counter by mashing. It would never work.
If I mash super counter my character slows down
For standard you don’t press triangle and circle that’s for classic controls.
Yeah I messed that one up. I realized this the moment I've uploaded the video
So what do you need to press?
@@jdmenthusiast1352 just circle/ b
@@jdmenthusiast1352 just circle. You don’t need the Triangle (of course while you’re blocking)
@@TraitorPC thanks
I want to learn this in classic.
For standard sonic sway you just hit circle . You don’t need the triangle that’s for clsssic
My dumbass be spamming all the counters while I’m getting hit expecting one of them to work 😭
I can't get any of that working consistently. So I usually mash & pray...
You cooked with this. Have a like and sub 👍🏿
Bro the super counters in this game feel off, like trying to do them against kid buu and it feels like I’m hitting the input perfectly but it doesn’t counter.
How do you deal with unblockable attacks and ultimates I can’t dodge them due to there insane tracking especially beams and obviously I can’t block so what do I do here ?
If the ultimate is an energy attack you can vanish with R1 just before landing it
I guess it’s just me but I flick the joustick up and press square too do a revenge counter lol
I use classic controls for the nostalgia. Also, Im pretty much used to those older controls because I played the emulator before getting this game.
How do I do perception?
thx you so much !
I wish you could switch button inputs. I prefer playing on classic but perception on standart is much easier to do.😓
TGANK YOU BRO I NEEDED THIS. My offense was alright but defense is ass
I'm still getting trapped in combos and whenever I try to do one of my own the CPU keeps telaporting behind me and bring me onto another combo. It's really frustrating
Man ive been playing since monday and ive gotten most of this but didnt notice my skill count.
I don't remember Budokai Tekaichi 3 being nearly as deep as this. Granted, it has been a LOONG time since I played it, but I remember I was pretty good. Now I'm getting bodied by the CPU. And I'm used to traditional hardcore fighting games such as Guilty Gear Accent Core.
Guard assist DOES NOT mess up your inputs on standard mode. People need to stop spreading this myth around. Test it in training mode the auto guard does not count as a button press meaning you can be IN THE GUARD ANIMATION and still tap the button to vanish or anything else you wanna do!!
In fact most of the assist options won’t interfere with manual inputs at all. People are just saying this without any testing
if you deflect a beam, theres no damage done to you or any loss of KI. its not just flashy dude.
what about when they're behind you and rushing you? how do you interrupt that combo? or at least get out of the chain of combos between the combo?
I think i played in your tournement yesterday.
How you stop someone that start comboing you from behind?
Super Counter
Time to do the vasics then do what i did in Budokai 3. Play training mode with unlimited health against the hardest opponent
I have it very easy to z counter and timing isn’t so hard for me but I almost never can land the super counter it’s so hard land and time it.
how do i get out a combo when their ultimate ability is full and they start spamming and im just stuck.
I think we played earlier today ggs my man I was Abeillion
The name sounds familiar. GGs!
how do you deflect beams with perception? i just can't do it (i'm on classic but i'm sure i could translate controls)
I keep seeing my friends immediately recover when I knock them back instead of them going faster. Any idea how to do this?
Yea same
What about the counter attack where you hit R3 after getting hit with a blast ?
What are some defensive characters in the game?
nice video
How to use perception in classic controls?
Thank you
Can you counter super counter without perception?
Yep you can use revenge counter
So what’s the best controls to use? I never played any of the dbz games before.
any advice for playing against dragon homing dash spammers? (the one where you double dash and go behind them) i’m not entirely sure how to consistently defend or at least avoid attacks at my backside like that. just gotta vanish time it?
What do you do if you keep getting punched in the back
Does all the characters really have different attacking frames ??
Can you vanish rush attack supers? I know you can beams, but I can't seem to get the timing for rush attacks 😅
How do I counter enemies combo from behind sir?
My reflexes too slow for this fast pace ass game 😮😢
What should I be doing to get out of long combos from behind ?
What’s perception on classic controls ?
Can you make a video on how you I fight ki blast spammer
In my opinion supercounters should cost Ki because they're pretty cheap an the IA is nuts with them lol
make a video explaining the clashes cause ion get some of them
@5:08... PAUSE lol
I knew someone would comment on that 😭
WAT 2 DU GUEN BAC SHOTS
I have really bad issue when oponent teleports behind and does full combo what can I do against this. Or people spamming perception
Ok but how do you counter when opponent burst dashes behind you?
Im confused, do u play with classic controls or standard, first u say triangle circle and then u talk about r1 which u do not use in classic...
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can you do it for classic?
Can anyone help me i always get beat up when the opponent hit me with rapid combo idk how to dodge or gaurd in that situation plz help
Dont need triangle to sonic sway
Classic controls it’s triangle and circle
@@BonitoPapaXLyeah but he was going off standard, just a lil mistake
He's absolutely right. I've realized this mistake when I've uploaded the video. For the views the video got it's kind of embarassing to make such a mistake