Awesome job man. You inspired me to go do this ride today. It’s relentless but a great challenge. I have the Wahoo Kickr and added the Climb grade simulator recently. Not really worth the money but the change in geometry is at least a good distraction and reminds you when the gradient is changing.
My goodness!!!! Bravo. This is without a doubt my new favorite cycling channel. Congrats on 100 subs. Mark my words. It’ll be 1k by end of the month. The fact that you set a goal an hit it is inspiring. ✊🏾✊🏾 As for setup it really depends on your budget. A decent used road bike and used Wahoo Kickr would be my recommendation. MOST IMPORTANT: Riding with a front suspension fork is eating up watts and efficiency. A lot… In all actuality, you completed that climb in about 87min.
Solid effort mate. As a heavier rider myself who's done a few Alpine climbs irl, Alpe Du Zwift is a wall. Maybe a goal-time effort up Ven-Top? (A longer climb with even more elevation)
Very nice job pacing your self, your graph looks like a its done in ERG mode, and thats the most efficent way to climp the alp, steady power. And a sprint finish after 90 minutes of climbing.. You are a beast :D
Nice video and I love the fight and determination at the end. That said, on next go, don't make such a drastic shift in gearing when you want to push harder. Maybe move one or two gears but keep your rpm right in that same 80 - 90 range. You'll end up getting to the same higher wattage but it will feel far less like you are trying to push a mountain up the mountain. I honestly think you would've comfortably made it up under 90 minutes if you were less aggressive on the gear change in the final stretch. As to trainers, it comes down to budget really. I just started doing Zwift in December and went with the Stages SB20 - it's very nice and super quiet which would solve your neighbor problem but as a full integrated smart bike, its not light on the pocket book. If you're just looking for a quieter / better trainer, something like the Wahoo Kickr would be a solid get.
Well done mate, zwift is a different beast for beginners like myself, been cycling 22 months now, progress is steady but it's the best thing I ever did.
Seeing you trying to get the finish and the seconds ticking away brought back some pretty intense memories of my first sub 1h ADZ, finished 59min58s and had to lay down for 5 mins. Would have been totally devasted missing it by such a small margin. A+ for effort. Keep at it and your next one will be a lot easier. If that can motivate you to keep those cranks turning, I started cycling 2y ago at 100kg, was a 2w/kg, now riding at 3.4w/kg at 81kg (44y old). Invest in a good smart trainer it's well worth it i think. Tacx Neo2T is awesome.
Well done mate. I missed out on climbing the Alpe in my target of 1hr by 32secs one week, was gutted!! But did it again the next week and got under my target time, you've just got to be super consistent on your watt numbers all the way up. I did a negative split, half just under what I needed and then half just over. In terms of kit. I started with a wheel on trainer which was okay, but then upgraded to a direct drive (wheel off) trainer - Wahoo Kickr. It's so so much better. Way better feel and way quieter than wheel on. I also splashed out a bit and got the Kickr over the Kickr Core as you don't have to do a spin down as it auto-calibrates as you ride which is a really nice feature. I would also reccomend getting a 2nd hand road bike for your trainer as you asked (but not over an upgraded trainer first). It will put you in a better position for racing especially. Enjoy your Zwift journey, it's addictive! Been going 1 year now and still enjoying it.
It’s nice to see a cycling UA-camr who isn’t built like a pro racer. I’m slightly heavier than you and have just started riding on Zwift. I’ve not done Alpe de Zwift but I have actually ridden up the real life Alpe d’Huez in 1 hr 45m. I’m using a Wahoo Kickr and my Specialized Allez Elite road bike, but I’ve also used my Triban 9 speed road bike on the Kickr, just have to swap the cassette over.
I got the Wahoo Kickr bike on Dec 14th, I'm totally new to cycling and didn't have a bike to start with, so it seemed like a good fit for me. So far I love it, close to 30 hours on it. I've done the Alp 3 times so far, I just barely got a sub 90 min the last time, you put in a great effort man, you'll crush it next time.
Great Effort! Trainer: Wahoo Kickr Core and as for the bike: that kind of depends what riding you like to do when you are not riding indoors. A gravel bike might give your the most flexibility, but of course that depends on what kind of riding you like. Canyon Grizl, Van Rysel RCX or something similar comes to mind. Generally your can pick up solid bikes in 1k-2k budget region with Shimano 105 or equivalent groupsets.
Nice! I am also heavy, I’ve gained a lot of weight since I quit outside riding. Now I just started Zwift and I’ve been eyeballing the alp! I’ve done similar rides in the past, but that was more than 3 years ago and 40 pounds less weight!
I’m also 100kg, can put some decent power out but have been putting off ADZ and sticking to flatter routes. I’ve just bought a smart trainer so think it’s time to work my way up there! Nicely done mate!
Good effort mate. It has been proven that high cadence low gearing 90-105 RPM is the way to go when climbing. In terms of trainer would recommend Tacx Neo 2/2T.
great job! Especially that sprint at the end. Don't know if I would ever have the power of doing that after cycling up the climb. Am a 108kg rider, my only ascent up the Alp de Zwift is just over 87 minutes. Never dipped below 195 watts, was riding the majority of it at just around 235 to 255 watts and sometimes standing and putting out 350-380 for shorter segments to vary it up a bit. A sufferfest I am not too keen on repeating. That being said I am planning on the Ven-Top...but not at any serious pace, just utilizing all my gears and pacing it up the climb. My setup is a Trek Domane SL5 2020 model on a direct drive trainer, Tacxs Neo S.
Awesome mate! I bought an elite suito a couple of months ago and It has been flawless. Tacx flux s is pretty good too.Also getting a road bike would put you in a much better position. Keep up the great work!
Nice work there mate, impressive determination. Can't remember the last time I did the AdZ, but as a 100kg guy, like you it kicks my arse! Look forwards to seeing you smash it soon. Almost tempted to jump on and see what I can do now lol. As for trainers, I have gone from a Tacx Flux, to a Neo, to a NeoBike, and would recommend any of them. The Flux and Neo are both wheel off, and pretty damn quiet.
Great job! Congratulations! I haven't done that climb yet ... But over 30 years of cycling experience (including racing), and since november on zwift, too, I think I can see how efforts of other fellow cyclists are. You definitely need a different set-up. I'm using elite's direto xr combined with my vintage cannondale caad4 (about 1998) road bike (updated it with some tiagra 10 gears last year). The direto is not the most expensive, here in Switzerland about GBP 730 - it's a medium priced direct trainer. However, very accurate and well built (Italy!). If you only want to use a bike on the direto, try to get an "older" road bike and perhaps refurbish it (like I did), then you have actually a state of the art set-up at a reasonable price (and you of course could still ride it outdoors). Have fun and ride on! Oh, almost forgot: having a road bike, you of course can switch cassettes to your liking (i.e. I just swapped my 11-28 out , for a 11-34 because I'm going to be taking on those Pretzels on watopia which in the end include all major climbs ... just as in reality.)
Great job! Instead of focusing on the 4 seconds you missed think about the huge improvement you had compared to your previous time! You rock!! Ps I have a giant tcr and kickr. Not cheap but the kickr is an absolutely amazing indoor trainer. The giant tcr is a great all around road bike as well if you want to get into some serious outdoor riding. All the best from 🇨🇦!! Eric
I use an Elite XR-t since paid (850€ but have seen also in sales for 500;)) 1 month im very happy ;) , tremendous effort looking forward to race together on zwift as an heavy cyclist (93kg) youre effort was amazing .
Well done! I use a wahoo kickr core. It's really really quiet. So try and get a turbo trainer that you take your rear wheel off, so it mounts directly to the turbo as that will reduce the noise / vibrations. It also came with alot of adapters so most bikes will fit on there. On mine is a very old 9 speed mountain bike and it works fine.
I would sugest that but I don't think his bike is compatibale with the kickr core. He should then also buy a racing bike witch would all together cost around 1.500 euro's at least (kickr + bike). So to give a real solid advice whe sould now the budget.
@@frankkriellaars Why would it not be compatible? Is it his gearing, or are the forks not compatible? The core doesn't come with a rear cassette, so he can buy whatever one his bike uses (and maybe have to shim). Or get a better bike, truthfully he'll be much happier doing that if he can afford it. Besides some firmware glitches, core has been fantastic for me here, and super quiet compared to my wheel on.
@@collider4378 i don't now what cassette he runs on this bike. I think the core is compatibel with standard 9 or 10 speed casettes. Might need to use spacers and stuff like that to make something else fit and it still works sub optimal.
Great progress - keep it up 👍🏿 I hope you base your training on a polarized model to ensure you’re not burning out. Switching to a road bike will increase your watts drastically because of the different energy transfer in a more forward-leaning position.
Well done! I have a cheapo TACX Blue Motion trainer that i use with my older road bike. I use the blue trainer specific tyre, there is very little noise. I have a spare real wheel which has the trainer tyre on it all the time. If I want to use the bike outside i swap the wheel. I have had it for about 4 years, its well used and still quiet
This was surprisingly fun to watch(I don't really watch Swift videos usually). I am not sure what sort of course are available on Zwift, but maybe do something with a lot of short punchy climbs? Might be fun to see going all out then trying to recover before the next wall hits.
Top effort mate! If you can afford it then a direct drive trainer will always beat a wheel on trainer, maybe have a look at getting some clip less pedals and shoes which would be a cheaper upgrade to start with, but well done on the effort and keep going!
Great job 🥳💪🏼 next time you will get those 4seconds as well 😀 idk about you but a higher cadence helps me a lot keeping the power up I try to be around 85/90 mostly
Gave it a like after the comment: "legs are starting to burn, well not much I can do about that. Dig deep!". Then subscribed after the effort put in at the end to push for sub 90. I got the Kickr just before Christmas that I use with my 105 groupset Cannondale. Yet to do the Alpe. Been building up to it and need to find enough time. Watched a few of your recent videos, Liking the content. 👍
Great job. You'll get it next time! I'm going to attempt my 1st ascent sometime next week. I'm waiting on delivery of my Elite Suito as an upgrade from the Kurt Kinetic Road Machine I purchased in 2003. Everything I've read about the Suito indicates that it's a good smart trainer for the money so I'm looking forward to getting it hooked up.
Nice effort! Alpe du zwift is such a climb! The first time I did it I finished in 63 mins and was stoked to get so close to sub 60. (I’m a 17y/o, about 62kg) Two months later I went for it again and crushed my previous time finishing in 57:35. It’s funny because I’m very inexperienced to riding, the second time was practically balls out, but I credit my cardio from running as a high school runner for the success. I generally run 30-40mi week and use biking as cross training. But vice versa can be done too!
Loving your videos just came across the recently really motivating me to get up and go ride!!! I personally use a watt bike atom, got it pre pandemic when it was more affordable, good pice of kit if you’re looking to go down the smart bike route
Nice one! I havent braved the Alpe Du Zwift yet - challenge accepted! I have the Wahoo Kickr Snap 2 - it does the job pefectly well for a beginner like me :) enjoy the journey!
Big respect for this effort on a bike like this! cranking out big watts into the suspension lol. looking forward seeing you becoming a cyclist, maybe you can get your hands on a used roadbike from ebay
Nice job. Great channel so far. I've been using a steel road bike on an Ascent Fluid wheel-on trainer. It's a dumb trainer so I have a cycplus speed and cadence sensor paired with zwift/rouvy/fulgaz. I think a fluid trainer would be a bit quieter. An interesting idea might be 3 short races in an hour, just to see what the fatigue is like.
Kickr core, I've have both a Kickr core and the full Kickr and there is little difference between them. Both are pretty silent and have a good power meter built in. Plus their customer service has been great.
Thank you for the inspiration. Please post your set up when you get it. I’m a noob and want to get into cycling on Zwift some day when I can afford a trainer
I'm currently using a Thinkrider x3, cost me about £200. It's pretty much the cheapest smart wheel on trainer you can get. I'll probably do a set up at some point, when I get some free time 😂
Couple of tips: 1) The massive sprint you did at the end means you had somkething left in the tank after the last hairpin. Try to spread this "left over" more evenly through the climb, i.e. so much that you can't sprint at the end but are just busy with maintaining your power. 2) Can you lock your suspension fork? You are loosing a lot of power into suspension when going out of the saddle, power that is not transmitted to the crank. 3) When being out of the saddle, try to pull the hand towards you, which is on the same side as the foot that is currently pushing downwards. This way, your arm supports your leg to exert more power on the pedal.
Thanks for the advice! Next time I'll try to go out a bit harder, it was the first time doing it, so I wasn't really sure how hard I could push myself. The suspension can't be locked out unfortunately, so I'll just have to deal with that until I get a new bike.
Well made and entertaining. Keep it up, mate. I use the Elite Suito. Teething problems are now gone with this direct drive trainer. Noise levels from the trainer are impressivly low. You will find it good value for money IMHO.
Great work. You'll crack that 90 min easy next time. I have a wahoo kickr core and love it. The direct drive (no bike wheel) is very quiet and because its smart it'll sort the resistance for me instead of me changing gears and increasing the resistance switch on my last 'wheel-on' dumb trainer (manual, no electrics). A smart trainer makes workouts a lot easier too. numbers instead
good effort pal, a bit of rest and some good fuel will see you knock those 4seconds off easily but in terms of set up what would certainly help is a bike without suspension and some clipless pedals, also spend your drops wisely on a lightweight bike and wheels if you can. Finally a good playlist can make a huge difference.
If using a wheel on trainer, use a proper training tyre to reduce noise. I have an old dumb fluid trainer which was nice and quiet. Upgraded to the Kickr snap recently which is also wheel on, and it isn't really that much noisier.
Subbed after that last effort to push for the 90 min! Good going. I got The Tacx Flux S, I can also recommend the Elite Suito. Both are direct drive turbos and way quieter than the wheel on type.
I'm just starting the 12 week build training program in hopes to complete this climb without killing myself. I bought the Kickr trainer with the direct connect adapter so I don't have any Wifi dropout. I'm currently about 77kg trying to get down to 68 kg to maximize my watts/kg. My cycling technique basically sucks at this point and I just need to get use to suffering again. Thank you for sharing, It looks like this climb is a massive physical/mental test.
Really well done considering your setup; front sus bouncing and no fans cooling you. Ive got a kickr and road bike. Only started road cycling a year ago so bought everything in one go. But i hear buying a watt bike is a good option or wahoo trainer bike if you can afford. I can do the alpe du zwift segment in 1.05 but am struggling to try break the hour (thats my ny resolution i guess). I tried twice in the last ten days but keep coming up with the same time pretty much, even though i was convinced i was much faster on the most recent go. Its a tough challenge
Kudos to you! That was a great effort! As for the smarttrainer I can recomment the Wahoo kickr core. It has almost all the great elements of the high end version but it costs significantly less. In any case I would recommend a trainer, where you have direct contact to the chain via an installed cassette. It's just so much less noisy. Have fun and ride on!
I have an Elite Suito and I usually stick my gravel bike on it for structured training in ERG mode. However for racing the gravel bike doesn’t have high enough gears (38 tooth front ring) so I put my road bike on it. If you are getting a bike just for indoor training I would get a second hand road bike with 2x10 gearing, as long as it shifts cleanly you’ll be fine. Obviously it would be nice to get a bike that is roadworthy so you can enjoy outdoor riding on it too.
I'm actually so gutted I had to laugh! 4 seconds bro!! I mean this video was a long time ago, haven't seen your other stuff (yet) so I'm looking forward to see any improvements🤘🏽
I am a 100kg (+) man and I live in a flat part of the US. I want to climb the road to the Sun at Glacier National Park at some point. It's about 1000m (3300') in 17.6km (11mi) Of course, besides rides such as this one, part of the plan is to get to closer to 90kg. I'm not going to be much smaller as I'm built like a US football linebacker. That was true in my 20s and still true 30+ years later. So I'm attempting this in my mid to late 50s. Your improvement over the previous best was massive and no shame in your result. Well done!
ive had a tacx neo t2875, wahoo kickr power v1 and a wahoo kickr power v4. I would definetly suggest buying a used "kickr v4" it is the most silent hometrainer ive had and it has a max-gradient of 20% which means you can actually feel the gradient when you climb alpe du zwift and other hard climbs, it also has a max-power of 2200w which im pretty sure is the highest yet for a hometrainer, and it also fits all road-bikes and mountainbikes! The best thing about the wahoo kickr power compared to the tacx neo is those adjustable legs on the trainer!
If you can get your hands on a trainer specific tire, that will reduce the noise on your current setup. Continental do them. You can also throw down another yoga mat, or some of those rubber workout tiles. Impressed you are doing this on flat pedals too. Time to get some clip ins. Put your hamstrings and glutes to some use
Awesome job man. You inspired me to go do this ride today. It’s relentless but a great challenge. I have the Wahoo Kickr and added the Climb grade simulator recently. Not really worth the money but the change in geometry is at least a good distraction and reminds you when the gradient is changing.
Also good for changing position on saddle a bit to keep the butt a little less sore!
Thanks for the information. I’ve always been curious about it.
My goodness!!!! Bravo. This is without a doubt my new favorite cycling channel. Congrats on 100 subs. Mark my words. It’ll be 1k by end of the month. The fact that you set a goal an hit it is inspiring. ✊🏾✊🏾 As for setup it really depends on your budget. A decent used road bike and used Wahoo Kickr would be my recommendation. MOST IMPORTANT: Riding with a front suspension fork is eating up watts and efficiency. A lot… In all actuality, you completed that climb in about 87min.
Thanks for the encouragement! I'm looking forward to making many more videos! I'll check the front suspension and see if I can lock it out.
Solid effort mate. As a heavier rider myself who's done a few Alpine climbs irl, Alpe Du Zwift is a wall.
Maybe a goal-time effort up Ven-Top? (A longer climb with even more elevation)
Hub one is from the cheaper end but super handy because you can use any bike on it. Good job on the climb. Insane challenge.
Thanks! Yeah I'll probably end up getting a hub one. Much less hassle when switching between bikes, will make life a lot easier!
Very nice job pacing your self, your graph looks like a its done in ERG mode, and thats the most efficent way to climp the alp, steady power. And a sprint finish after 90 minutes of climbing.. You are a beast :D
Direct drive reduce noise and give more road feel. Clipless pedals would help a lot also as they add to the pull section of the stroke
Nice video and I love the fight and determination at the end. That said, on next go, don't make such a drastic shift in gearing when you want to push harder. Maybe move one or two gears but keep your rpm right in that same 80 - 90 range. You'll end up getting to the same higher wattage but it will feel far less like you are trying to push a mountain up the mountain. I honestly think you would've comfortably made it up under 90 minutes if you were less aggressive on the gear change in the final stretch.
As to trainers, it comes down to budget really. I just started doing Zwift in December and went with the Stages SB20 - it's very nice and super quiet which would solve your neighbor problem but as a full integrated smart bike, its not light on the pocket book. If you're just looking for a quieter / better trainer, something like the Wahoo Kickr would be a solid get.
OoOoOh you're in the data analysis side of things, you're a cyclist for life now hahaha. Awesome :).
Well done mate, zwift is a different beast for beginners like myself, been cycling 22 months now, progress is steady but it's the best thing I ever did.
Seeing you trying to get the finish and the seconds ticking away brought back some pretty intense memories of my first sub 1h ADZ, finished 59min58s and had to lay down for 5 mins. Would have been totally devasted missing it by such a small margin. A+ for effort. Keep at it and your next one will be a lot easier. If that can motivate you to keep those cranks turning, I started cycling 2y ago at 100kg, was a 2w/kg, now riding at 3.4w/kg at 81kg (44y old). Invest in a good smart trainer it's well worth it i think. Tacx Neo2T is awesome.
Hi Simon, what do you think about SB20?
Well done mate. I missed out on climbing the Alpe in my target of 1hr by 32secs one week, was gutted!! But did it again the next week and got under my target time, you've just got to be super consistent on your watt numbers all the way up. I did a negative split, half just under what I needed and then half just over.
In terms of kit. I started with a wheel on trainer which was okay, but then upgraded to a direct drive (wheel off) trainer - Wahoo Kickr. It's so so much better. Way better feel and way quieter than wheel on. I also splashed out a bit and got the Kickr over the Kickr Core as you don't have to do a spin down as it auto-calibrates as you ride which is a really nice feature. I would also reccomend getting a 2nd hand road bike for your trainer as you asked (but not over an upgraded trainer first). It will put you in a better position for racing especially.
Enjoy your Zwift journey, it's addictive! Been going 1 year now and still enjoying it.
It’s nice to see a cycling UA-camr who isn’t built like a pro racer. I’m slightly heavier than you and have just started riding on Zwift. I’ve not done Alpe de Zwift but I have actually ridden up the real life Alpe d’Huez in 1 hr 45m. I’m using a Wahoo Kickr and my Specialized Allez Elite road bike, but I’ve also used my Triban 9 speed road bike on the Kickr, just have to swap the cassette over.
I got the Wahoo Kickr bike on Dec 14th, I'm totally new to cycling and didn't have a bike to start with, so it seemed like a good fit for me. So far I love it, close to 30 hours on it. I've done the Alp 3 times so far, I just barely got a sub 90 min the last time, you put in a great effort man, you'll crush it next time.
Great work. I’m in the same boat…. I bought a wahoo kickr core and although I thought it was expensive I am so pleased with it.
Keep it up buddy 👍🏽
Great Effort! Trainer: Wahoo Kickr Core and as for the bike: that kind of depends what riding you like to do when you are not riding indoors. A gravel bike might give your the most flexibility, but of course that depends on what kind of riding you like. Canyon Grizl, Van Rysel RCX or something similar comes to mind. Generally your can pick up solid bikes in 1k-2k budget region with Shimano 105 or equivalent groupsets.
Awesome job mate!!! 🤜🤛
You really dug deep there! Impressive! 🤩
Keep it up man! 💪
Nice! I am also heavy, I’ve gained a lot of weight since I quit outside riding. Now I just started Zwift and I’ve been eyeballing the alp! I’ve done similar rides in the past, but that was more than 3 years ago and 40 pounds less weight!
Nice vids bro. I have never used Zwift, it looks fun. I love going hard out on the hills. Your vid’s has me thinking of a new type of fun.
It's definitely worth trying. It it's just as fun as playing video games, but you get healthier in the process, win win 😂
Mate, you nailed it! My kudos to you!
Great effort! I just purchased a Wahoo Kickr Core. I highly recommend one.
Great Effort! Fantastic Video. Massive respect
Popped into my feed today, subscribed straight away, finally someone I can relate to as I'm around 110kg. Fantastic content !!!
I’m also 100kg, can put some decent power out but have been putting off ADZ and sticking to flatter routes. I’ve just bought a smart trainer so think it’s time to work my way up there!
Nicely done mate!
It's a challenge but definitely worth it! Good luck!
Solid effort bloke!! Loved it. Might have to target this myself being a big bloke. Just buy the wheel off wahoo trainer that you can afford.
Good effort mate.
It has been proven that high cadence low gearing 90-105 RPM is the way to go when climbing.
In terms of trainer would recommend Tacx Neo 2/2T.
Came here to say the same, his avg cadence was too low.
I have a wahoo core and it’s very quiet and was recommended by my local bike shop. Nice video and good effort!
Well done mate, you are inspiring me to give it another go, bailed at 7 so will try again…
Great effort! Don’t worry about the 4sec, you’ll crush it next time, maybe with your new setup! :)
great job! Especially that sprint at the end. Don't know if I would ever have the power of doing that after cycling up the climb.
Am a 108kg rider, my only ascent up the Alp de Zwift is just over 87 minutes. Never dipped below 195 watts, was riding the majority of it at just around 235 to 255 watts and sometimes standing and putting out 350-380 for shorter segments to vary it up a bit. A sufferfest I am not too keen on repeating. That being said I am planning on the Ven-Top...but not at any serious pace, just utilizing all my gears and pacing it up the climb.
My setup is a Trek Domane SL5 2020 model on a direct drive trainer, Tacxs Neo S.
Excellent work mate well done, never an easy ride up there. Looking forward to see how u get on with a smart trainer!
Awesome mate! I bought an elite suito a couple of months ago and It has been flawless. Tacx flux s is pretty good too.Also getting a road bike would put you in a much better position.
Keep up the great work!
Nice work there mate, impressive determination. Can't remember the last time I did the AdZ, but as a 100kg guy, like you it kicks my arse!
Look forwards to seeing you smash it soon. Almost tempted to jump on and see what I can do now lol.
As for trainers, I have gone from a Tacx Flux, to a Neo, to a NeoBike, and would recommend any of them. The Flux and Neo are both wheel off, and pretty damn quiet.
Great job! Congratulations! I haven't done that climb yet ... But over 30 years of cycling experience (including racing), and since november on zwift, too, I think I can see how efforts of other fellow cyclists are. You definitely need a different set-up. I'm using elite's direto xr combined with my vintage cannondale caad4 (about 1998) road bike (updated it with some tiagra 10 gears last year). The direto is not the most expensive, here in Switzerland about GBP 730 - it's a medium priced direct trainer. However, very accurate and well built (Italy!). If you only want to use a bike on the direto, try to get an "older" road bike and perhaps refurbish it (like I did), then you have actually a state of the art set-up at a reasonable price (and you of course could still ride it outdoors). Have fun and ride on! Oh, almost forgot: having a road bike, you of course can switch cassettes to your liking (i.e. I just swapped my 11-28 out , for a 11-34 because I'm going to be taking on those Pretzels on watopia which in the end include all major climbs ... just as in reality.)
I am your 500th subscriber. Congrats.
Yes that's a good point, currently I'm just using my phone. A better mic is on the shopping list.
Great job! Instead of focusing on the 4 seconds you missed think about the huge improvement you had compared to your previous time! You rock!!
Ps I have a giant tcr and kickr. Not cheap but the kickr is an absolutely amazing indoor trainer. The giant tcr is a great all around road bike as well if you want to get into some serious outdoor riding.
All the best from 🇨🇦!!
Eric
We agree, amazing improvement :) Ride on.
@@Zwift I just started too! (Running because I can’t afford a trainer) but I’m having a blast
@@aircob so happy to hear it!
Great video. Love the final effort. We’ve all been there on Zwift!!!
Damn that was close! But respect ✊🏻 for that time!!
My first ever attempt was 111mins so going under 90 seems like a pipe dream at the moment 😀
100 Subs in January to almost 2K now, congratulations, man! Hit you right back. Little guys supporting the little guys, ya know?!
Cheers mate! Keep up the grind, we'll make it soon enough!!
I use an Elite XR-t since paid (850€ but have seen also in sales for 500;))
1 month im very happy ;) , tremendous effort looking forward to race together on zwift as an heavy cyclist (93kg) youre effort was amazing .
Great job! I have a Wahoo Kickr and love it. Ride on!
Superb effort. Day 1 of Zwift for me today. Respect to you.
Good luck on your journey!
That cycling bag in the frame between legs is a No-No.
Put it on the handlebar, out of the way.
Good job on the Alpe, keep going!
We'll done! Keep pushing you'll be doing ventoux soon!
Well done! I use a wahoo kickr core. It's really really quiet. So try and get a turbo trainer that you take your rear wheel off, so it mounts directly to the turbo as that will reduce the noise / vibrations. It also came with alot of adapters so most bikes will fit on there. On mine is a very old 9 speed mountain bike and it works fine.
I would sugest that but I don't think his bike is compatibale with the kickr core. He should then also buy a racing bike witch would all together cost around 1.500 euro's at least (kickr + bike). So to give a real solid advice whe sould now the budget.
@@frankkriellaars True, he should buy a used "wahoo kickr power g1", those you can get for 600$ if your lucky.
I'll definitely give that a go!
@@frankkriellaars Why would it not be compatible? Is it his gearing, or are the forks not compatible? The core doesn't come with a rear cassette, so he can buy whatever one his bike uses (and maybe have to shim). Or get a better bike, truthfully he'll be much happier doing that if he can afford it. Besides some firmware glitches, core has been fantastic for me here, and super quiet compared to my wheel on.
@@collider4378 i don't now what cassette he runs on this bike. I think the core is compatibel with standard 9 or 10 speed casettes. Might need to use spacers and stuff like that to make something else fit and it still works sub optimal.
Great progress - keep it up 👍🏿
I hope you base your training on a polarized model to ensure you’re not burning out.
Switching to a road bike will increase your watts drastically because of the different energy transfer in a more forward-leaning position.
Great video ,just bought my kickr.I’m heavier than you but it looks great fun.
Well done! I have a cheapo TACX Blue Motion trainer that i use with my older road bike. I use the blue trainer specific tyre, there is very little noise. I have a spare real wheel which has the trainer tyre on it all the time. If I want to use the bike outside i swap the wheel. I have had it for about 4 years, its well used and still quiet
Well done. Wahoo Kickr for me have had it for about 6 weeks
This was surprisingly fun to watch(I don't really watch Swift videos usually). I am not sure what sort of course are available on Zwift, but maybe do something with a lot of short punchy climbs? Might be fun to see going all out then trying to recover before the next wall hits.
right on target, hats off!
Massive effort man! Much respect 💪
Solid ride, well done! I use the Wahoo Kickr. Solid, accurate and quiet. A little pricey though Ride on!
I’m a 100kg guy and made it up the climb in about 104 min. It was the hardest climb I’ve ever done, I look forward to doing it many more times.
Try it in real life, that's definitely the hardest climb I've ever done. It was never 40 degrees Celsius when I did it on Zwift!!!
Kick ass mate!! Outstanding!
really excited to see your new setup, will you make a video about it soon?
Absolutely! I'll probably get it next month, so expect a video around then!
@@JMower awesome! keep the videos coming man!
Top effort mate! If you can afford it then a direct drive trainer will always beat a wheel on trainer, maybe have a look at getting some clip less pedals and shoes which would be a cheaper upgrade to start with, but well done on the effort and keep going!
Great job 🥳💪🏼 next time you will get those 4seconds as well 😀 idk about you but a higher cadence helps me a lot keeping the power up I try to be around 85/90 mostly
I got a wahoo kicker core and couldn't be more pleased with it. For bike, I have an old allez on it.
Very nice job! So close to your goal.
Well done mate.that looked grim👍👊
Great effort!! The elite suito T is a very good trainer for the money, as for a bike I would go for a normal racebike or gravel bike.
Gave it a like after the comment: "legs are starting to burn, well not much I can do about that. Dig deep!". Then subscribed after the effort put in at the end to push for sub 90. I got the Kickr just before Christmas that I use with my 105 groupset Cannondale. Yet to do the Alpe. Been building up to it and need to find enough time. Watched a few of your recent videos, Liking the content. 👍
Great work, I remember it snowing when I went up there
you got my like as soon as i saw your riding outfit mate, top effort
Great job. You'll get it next time! I'm going to attempt my 1st ascent sometime next week. I'm waiting on delivery of my Elite Suito as an upgrade from the Kurt Kinetic Road Machine I purchased in 2003. Everything I've read about the Suito indicates that it's a good smart trainer for the money so I'm looking forward to getting it hooked up.
I have it for about 4 months now. Been on around 60 sessions now. No issues whatsoever. Great buy.
Good luck! Let's hope the Elite Suito lasts as long as your previous one!
Nice effort! Alpe du zwift is such a climb! The first time I did it I finished in 63 mins and was stoked to get so close to sub 60. (I’m a 17y/o, about 62kg) Two months later I went for it again and crushed my previous time finishing in 57:35. It’s funny because I’m very inexperienced to riding, the second time was practically balls out, but I credit my cardio from running as a high school runner for the success. I generally run 30-40mi week and use biking as cross training. But vice versa can be done too!
Loving your videos just came across the recently really motivating me to get up and go ride!!! I personally use a watt bike atom, got it pre pandemic when it was more affordable, good pice of kit if you’re looking to go
down the smart bike route
Nice one! I havent braved the Alpe Du Zwift yet - challenge accepted! I have the Wahoo Kickr Snap 2 - it does the job pefectly well for a beginner like me :) enjoy the journey!
Awesome work mate :) keep that fitness up 💪🏼
I'm 110KG and am inspired to give it a go now! Great job man
subscribed cos I like to see you achieve your goals!
Big respect for this effort on a bike like this! cranking out big watts into the suspension lol. looking forward seeing you becoming a cyclist, maybe you can get your hands on a used roadbike from ebay
Nice job. Great channel so far. I've been using a steel road bike on an Ascent Fluid wheel-on trainer. It's a dumb trainer so I have a cycplus speed and cadence sensor paired with zwift/rouvy/fulgaz. I think a fluid trainer would be a bit quieter. An interesting idea might be 3 short races in an hour, just to see what the fatigue is like.
Good idea! I'll give it a go!
Kickr core, I've have both a Kickr core and the full Kickr and there is little difference between them. Both are pretty silent and have a good power meter built in. Plus their customer service has been great.
Thank you for the inspiration. Please post your set up when you get it. I’m a noob and want to get into cycling on Zwift some day when I can afford a trainer
I'm currently using a Thinkrider x3, cost me about £200. It's pretty much the cheapest smart wheel on trainer you can get. I'll probably do a set up at some point, when I get some free time 😂
Couple of tips: 1) The massive sprint you did at the end means you had somkething left in the tank after the last hairpin. Try to spread this "left over" more evenly through the climb, i.e. so much that you can't sprint at the end but are just busy with maintaining your power. 2) Can you lock your suspension fork? You are loosing a lot of power into suspension when going out of the saddle, power that is not transmitted to the crank. 3) When being out of the saddle, try to pull the hand towards you, which is on the same side as the foot that is currently pushing downwards. This way, your arm supports your leg to exert more power on the pedal.
Thanks for the advice! Next time I'll try to go out a bit harder, it was the first time doing it, so I wasn't really sure how hard I could push myself. The suspension can't be locked out unfortunately, so I'll just have to deal with that until I get a new bike.
Like your videos!! keep up the great work!
Well made and entertaining. Keep it up, mate. I use the Elite Suito. Teething problems are now gone with this direct drive trainer. Noise levels from the trainer are impressivly low. You will find it good value for money IMHO.
Love the bike! Great effort!
Great work. You'll crack that 90 min easy next time. I have a wahoo kickr core and love it. The direct drive (no bike wheel) is very quiet and because its smart it'll sort the resistance for me instead of me changing gears and increasing the resistance switch on my last 'wheel-on' dumb trainer (manual, no electrics). A smart trainer makes workouts a lot easier too. numbers instead
good effort pal, a bit of rest and some good fuel will see you knock those 4seconds off easily but in terms of set up what would certainly help is a bike without suspension and some clipless pedals, also spend your drops wisely on a lightweight bike and wheels if you can. Finally a good playlist can make a huge difference.
Cool vid, you will crack 90 Next time 👍👍
If using a wheel on trainer, use a proper training tyre to reduce noise. I have an old dumb fluid trainer which was nice and quiet. Upgraded to the Kickr snap recently which is also wheel on, and it isn't really that much noisier.
4 seconds !! Well done mate, keep going.
Subbed after that last effort to push for the 90 min! Good going. I got The Tacx Flux S, I can also recommend the Elite Suito. Both are direct drive turbos and way quieter than the wheel on type.
Had to turn my volume down incase my wife was wondering why I was watching 😂
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I'm just starting the 12 week build training program in hopes to complete this climb without killing myself. I bought the Kickr trainer with the direct connect adapter so I don't have any Wifi dropout. I'm currently about 77kg trying to get down to 68 kg to maximize my watts/kg. My cycling technique basically sucks at this point and I just need to get use to suffering again. Thank you for sharing, It looks like this climb is a massive physical/mental test.
Really well done considering your setup; front sus bouncing and no fans cooling you. Ive got a kickr and road bike. Only started road cycling a year ago so bought everything in one go. But i hear buying a watt bike is a good option or wahoo trainer bike if you can afford. I can do the alpe du zwift segment in 1.05 but am struggling to try break the hour (thats my ny resolution i guess).
I tried twice in the last ten days but keep coming up with the same time pretty much, even though i was convinced i was much faster on the most recent go.
Its a tough challenge
Kudos to you! That was a great effort!
As for the smarttrainer I can recomment the Wahoo kickr core. It has almost all the great elements of the high end version but it costs significantly less. In any case I would recommend a trainer, where you have direct contact to the chain via an installed cassette. It's just so much less noisy. Have fun and ride on!
Awesome Effort! Gained a sub. As a big rider myself, Ive only tried it once about a month ago and got to turn 10. 105kg though :(
Give it a few months and I'm sure you'll make it!
Joseph have you tried it again?
@@militarygradegear4004 No :( Lost abit of motivation as everyone I rode with outside could just pull away. Need to get back on it.
Nice effort ! Maybe you can try to buy direct mount trainer. Like élite suito or kickr wahoo.
I use a Wahoo kickr bike which is very quiet, I have it on a rocker plate. Very highly recomended well worth the money
I have an Elite Suito and I usually stick my gravel bike on it for structured training in ERG mode. However for racing the gravel bike doesn’t have high enough gears (38 tooth front ring) so I put my road bike on it. If you are getting a bike just for indoor training I would get a second hand road bike with 2x10 gearing, as long as it shifts cleanly you’ll be fine. Obviously it would be nice to get a bike that is roadworthy so you can enjoy outdoor riding on it too.
From 100 in Jan to 1500 in Feb. Good job man!
Impressive effort especially at the end.
I'm actually so gutted I had to laugh! 4 seconds bro!!
I mean this video was a long time ago, haven't seen your other stuff (yet) so I'm looking forward to see any improvements🤘🏽
Tell me about it!! This was actually over a year ago now, I was planning try again pretty soon! Hoping to get under 70/65 mins
I am a 100kg (+) man and I live in a flat part of the US. I want to climb the road to the Sun at Glacier National Park at some point. It's about 1000m (3300') in 17.6km (11mi)
Of course, besides rides such as this one, part of the plan is to get to closer to 90kg. I'm not going to be much smaller as I'm built like a US football linebacker. That was true in my 20s and still true 30+ years later.
So I'm attempting this in my mid to late 50s.
Your improvement over the previous best was massive and no shame in your result. Well done!
ive had a tacx neo t2875, wahoo kickr power v1 and a wahoo kickr power v4. I would definetly suggest buying a used "kickr v4" it is the most silent hometrainer ive had and it has a max-gradient of 20% which means you can actually feel the gradient when you climb alpe du zwift and other hard climbs, it also has a max-power of 2200w which im pretty sure is the highest yet for a hometrainer, and it also fits all road-bikes and mountainbikes! The best thing about the wahoo kickr power compared to the tacx neo is those adjustable legs on the trainer!
Great effort. I am using tacx neo 2t which is known for quiet. And a 11 speed decathlon bike
Elite Suito T en and cheap standing fan with remote controller... And then a more solid bike. This thing is flexing a lot
Good idea about the remote controller 😂
If you can get your hands on a trainer specific tire, that will reduce the noise on your current setup. Continental do them. You can also throw down another yoga mat, or some of those rubber workout tiles. Impressed you are doing this on flat pedals too. Time to get some clip ins. Put your hamstrings and glutes to some use