When Does “Historical Style” Get Weird?
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- Опубліковано 26 лют 2023
- At what point does taking cues from the past go too far when designing your kilt outfit?
Is it okay to wear an 18th century coat with your modern tailored kilt?
What about the opposite? Do we, as kilt wearers, ever get too hung up on strictly following tradition and thus leave no room for new fashion ideas?
The truth is of course somewhere in between. Highland dress is a traditional national dress and therefore should not be expected to change a lot over time. However, Highland dress is also a broad topic; fashion with a spectrum of options. Erik and Rocky discuss finding the right balance.
* Tartans in this video:
Rocky: Stewart Hunting Weathered Tweed
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Erik: Scott Green Weathered in PV
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My dream kilt outfit: Probably go with old-style gillie brogues, a plain black leather day sporran, my eight-yard MacLachlan modern kilt, (maybe a great kilt...) a white Jacobite shirt, black kilt hose, and maybe a bonnet with my clan plant badge. Oh, and my dirk and basket-hilt claymore for accessories!😃
Traveling to Scotland this September , will be attending a formal dinner and have benefited from watching these videos in getting comfortable with how to be properly dressed. In my case I’m settling on family tartan, Prince Charlie jacket, three button waistcoat, placketed wing collar shirt and black bow tie, ghillie brogues. I didn’t want to go too far from the standard for the formal dinner and might do less formal for other dinners
Sounds great my son and I [ Clan MacQuarrie ] will be going on our first trip in August August 13 - 24
family kilt, prince Charlie waistcoat gillie Brogues, wing collar tuxedo shirt with self tie bow tie formal sporran fox for formal dinner,
argyle jacket, waistcoat and balmoral boots day wear sporran for less formal
I Agee USA KILTS videos and employees very helpful
@@rallencorzine2691 very sharp, I’ll wager you’ll be one of the best dressed fellows. Hope you enjoy the trip
What a tremendous tribute to the highland look that so much inspiration from the past can be incorporated so readily, acceptably and so stylishly in modern day and evening kilt wear.
What you're saying is this look is so good it's timeless, and I would agree.
+USAKiltsOfficial *Thanks for the critic perspective.* A great kilt in Modern colors (alternate: Tweed) coupled with a Highland shirt, black hunting _Sporran_ and Glenfinnan brogues would be appropriate for a Renaissance Faire.
I would actually go the other way, mostly towards more contemporary choices.
If money was no object, I'd get a Brian Boru jacket and waistcoat for formal wear.
For the professional look, I would get two linen/wool blend Wallace jackets and waistcoats (medium gray and navy). I would also get a few tweed Wallace jackets and waistcoats (e.g. charcoal and Lovat green). I would round that out a couple extra odd waistcoats to mix and match.
My biggest "nod to history" is that I tend to wear kilt hose, garter ties, and a sgian dubh with almost everything … even if I'm just wearing a t-shirt and minimal black sneakers.
Formal wear I'm still really new to but I am getting an 8 yarder from USAK (thanks again Ian!) for my wedding and a jacket nad 5 button PC with a tie that matches the kilt and flashes. It's a little matchy matchy, but I think it's easier to go matchy matchy and look good (but boring and unoriginal) than to try and come in from left field, and try to creatively "Break the rules" but just end up missing and looking like a goof.
I think the easiest way to mix eras is with sporrans. The modern dress sporrans are metal cantle and seal look short fur. I like to substitute other furs like mink, beaver or long angora goat and German silver to capture a bit of Victorian to a dress occasion. For smart daywear a brass Culloden style (18th c) cantle and hand tooled leather bag adds a lot to the look. Generally bespoke items will stand out and give a classic look without being over the top. There is a strong movement by many experienced kilt wearers to achieve the classic look by incorporating the best elements of past to their 2023 kits.
Greetings from another fellow goth! This is a great video! Both of you guys covered a lot of good points and I agree with them. I have been watching a lot of the videos you guys make. I just want to say thank you for this great content and for keeping us informed. You guys have inspired me to include kilts into some of my outfits. Keep up the great work!
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I would love to wear a Montrose doublet, jabot and all.
Though i pretty much see the PC as a go to formal.
For casual i wouldnt mind a lot of tweed. Though tweed to me is still ”well dressed”. Perhaps a bit like business casual.
Also Iceland sweaters, Faorese sweaters, Arran sweaters.
That kind of sweaters are common in the Nordic countries for obvious reasons.
Even more casual a waist lenght leather jacket, bomber jackets.
For summer, block coloured t-shirt or a shirt. Dr Martens .
Kilt,hose, flashes unless the hose are rolled down.
Sgian Dubh only if i’m sure no one will touch it/i wont lose it with casual. So not out drinking beyond a stout or two.
Kilt pin with casual also if i’m sure i wont lose it/it wont be impractical.
But a Montrose would bring out my inner Adam Ant. 🐜😁
I would say Liens and armour would be going back too far. I often wear a Great Kilt and wear kilt hose and a Tam as they look good together.
If I wear a regular kilt I wear a shirt and vest or coat and balmoral bonnet
‘Hogtied’ 😭😂
Excellent discussion
I wear my great kilt at camp and out bow hunting. The gun belt with the 1851 as side arm looks okay to me. Took up bear hunting so I can make a coat. More of a survivalist kilted style then traditional myself. I like how Fandabi Dozi where's his great kilt and style. Thought about making some bog leather. More about the wool and uses so function over style.
As for the ultimate highland outfit, here is what I am looking at... jacket in charcoal or grey arroacher tweed. Similar to the historic-ish just au corps being offered by St Kilda. Instead of the cut dropping down to pretty much square at the bottom, I would like the curved line to continue and taper back. Silk waistcoat, possibly embroidered. Being of Breton, Scot, and French ancestry, I am thinking Sterling Silver round belt buckle, custom cast with similar matching buttons on the coat and waistcoat. A custom weave Breton family tartan 13 oz 8 yard kilt. I would also love to have custom hose and flashes. The shoes will be a challenge as I have a messed up left leg, must be soft and squishy soles and yet look dressy. Unfortunately boots are out. You asked, but it might just come to pass... after all I did manage to score a knights Breton great kilt with help from the missus! " cheater reverse kingussie pleats"! Helps to keep from knocking everything onto the ground as one passes by! Enjoying the shows!
You and I think very much alike
Victorian, I'm wanting the pipers plaid, regulation doublet (not sure if i want the green or British red) horsehair sporran, premier 8 yrd, in black watch 42nd regiment. glengarry with lion rampant house of Stuart hat pin, with red or green feather to match the jacket and vest. do want multiple hose, including the red and black checked, i want the red military garters, as well as the matching black watch set, black watch tie. thinking of the pipers ghillie brogues, as well as gold buckle shoes from Sampsons historical, or Fugawee... not sure if i want the white spatts.
On the theme of build things up one piece at at time, I had a related thought last week on a cruise. It was formal night. I was in a conventional black tie tux. The question in my mind was could I "acceptably" go formal kilt etc. from the waist down and just use the tux items from the waist up?
David
So, I've been meaning to ask this for a while - since my personal aesthetic runs a little more toward Edwardian dandy... what's your take on the, I dunno, mantle you see in Victorian Highlandwear? Or like William Gibson proposed as Irish National Dress. It's bigger than a piper's plaid or a fly plaid, almost like a shepherd's plaid but in tartan rather than shepherd check. I think it's a great look, and probably wicked toasty, but also way extra.
An complete aside, have sporrans changed shape/size to fit smart phones?
Great questions. I'm interested in this as well.
Of course i know turisas 😄
Good grief - it's about style & reality, not costume & fantasy. Stop thinking you're in Scotland in the 1700's - you are not, you're in the 21st. century. Yes, borrow from the past with discretion, but carry it with modesty and modern sophistication.