Longer & Lighter Driver = More Distance?

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  • @lf493
    @lf493 Рік тому +3

    Its does work, you need to try it ! Just got fit for this shaft at TXG. Going from a Graphite Design IZ shaft to this, I have gained about 20 yards.......Thanks Dean (TXG Fitter) for your help.

    • @d_5586
      @d_5586 Рік тому +1

      which one did u get fit in man, Im currently using an IZ 5X and considering switching to this one

  • @paulmarconi1619
    @paulmarconi1619 2 роки тому +38

    "OnehundredandEIGGGGHHHHTYYYY" really brought a smile to me face.

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 2 роки тому +1

      made me thirsty for a pint or 12.

  • @martyboysation
    @martyboysation Рік тому +6

    need a vanquish 4tx vs brava x vs autoflex 505xx please

  • @robchapman3514
    @robchapman3514 Рік тому +1

    I've only just realised how much difference a shaft makes.
    I was fitted with a 70gm xstiff shaft in my ping g425 driver 2.5 yrs ago when I started playing. In spite of lots of lessons and drills and practice I was still fighting a massive slice and I was disappointed with the distance. After some research I tried a few shafts and settled on a 60gm stiff 6.0 hazardous smoke rdx. The difference is amazing. It's almost impossible to lose right and it's just so easy to hit the ball straight now. I also picked up an easy 15mts of carry.
    I had a couple of swings with the old shaft which now feels like a telegraph pole and could feel the extra work I had to put in to try and square up the club face. I feel like golf just got easier.

    • @alexgarcia7104
      @alexgarcia7104 11 місяців тому

      Interesting. I almost did the complete opposite. I moved to an XStiff but at 65gm and I now hit them did straight (most of the time lol). I love how golf is not one size fits all. Everyone has their own journey

  • @car-p6p
    @car-p6p Рік тому +7

    I wish you’d do more of these with someone with 90-105 mph swing speeds . That’s where most of us live .

  • @ZeeK33NKS
    @ZeeK33NKS Рік тому

    Currently gaming a 46" SpeederNX 50S. Tipped 2”, with my 8* TSi3 head @C4 (8.75* Flat). Neutral weight position and Swing weight @D5. Performs with similar tip action to my Ventus Red but with more load in the butt section. I went from a push cut/slice player, to a push draw/push player. Its free'd me up so much and the ball sails!

  • @mvansb23
    @mvansb23 2 роки тому +1

    It’s been too long since I’ve heard ONEHUNDREDANDEIGHTY!!!!! So good

  • @golf007sd2
    @golf007sd2 2 роки тому +6

    Very impressive shaft. One thing for sure at close to $400 US, it is far more cost effective than AutoFlex.

  • @ConnorLyon
    @ConnorLyon 2 роки тому +2

    Really love the inclusion of the moving the weight to the toe. Let’s us know that it’s not Just a plug and play solution and that there is still risk (quick hooks) that come into play.

  • @briansgolfworks4991
    @briansgolfworks4991 Рік тому

    After Driver shaft testing this winter I was still looking for yardage. I purchased Garaffaloy ProLaunch Blue 45gm driver shaft. Installed at 45.5", picked up 20 yards and got better head feel. Based on this experiment a higher quality shaft could produce even more yardage.

  • @garethshaw50
    @garethshaw50 2 роки тому +9

    Great video. Can I ask a few things about this?
    Why change from TSR2 to TSR3?
    What was the swingweight of both clubs? Presume longer should be heavier with same headweight so did you guys remove some weight?
    Thanks in advance

  • @BirchesMoto
    @BirchesMoto 2 роки тому +14

    I would love to see a video about selecting pre-owned clubs using a small set of swing data to get you in the ballpark of a good fit.
    Learning from you all has made me want to get fit of course, but realistically used clubs are my price range. It would be great to have some rough idea of what I should look for based off of some basic swing data points like club speed, launch angle, spin etc. probably a big ask but just a thought!
    I know it’ll never be a perfect fit or substitute a day with you in the fitting bay but it would be awesome to be more educated pre-owned buyer.
    Thank you for all you do! As a customer success manager in software it feel our two worlds are very similar. Just looking at different data but helping people perform their best! You have made learning this stuff so fun ❤

  • @markm778
    @markm778 Рік тому +3

    I purchased a Vanquish 4S for my TSR1 - I found that I had to loft up 1.5* and go .75* upright. Once I make the adjustments, 8 drives had a variance of 5 yards left to right. I'm playing 45.75" in my TSR1. Looking forward to see what this can do out on the course.

    • @per_growth
      @per_growth Рік тому

      You had to make these adjustments because the ball flight was too low and it was fading too much?

  • @joeplichter4009
    @joeplichter4009 2 роки тому +2

    NOTICE THE TWO DIFFERENT TEES: HE STARTED SHORT WITH HIS GAMER (GREEN) AND THEN WITH THE 40X HE USES THE HIGHER TEE (RED).
    HIGHER TEE UPWARD ANGLE OF ATTACK = LOW SPIN
    LOWER TEE DOWNWARD ANGLE OF ATTACK = HIGH SPIN
    The results are more of a reflection of tee height than the shaft but, that said, longer and lighter is a winning combo for more distance. I use a Kuro Kage 50x and love it!

    • @DavidPetryk
      @DavidPetryk 2 роки тому +3

      Longer shaft; angle of attact changes so he needed a higher tee. They talk about the change in attact angle in video several times. Just changing the tee would not give the same results at all.

  • @happyscaling
    @happyscaling 2 роки тому +5

    Lol I feel personally attacked by Matt's fairway finder swing

  • @paulkielwasser481
    @paulkielwasser481 2 роки тому +1

    I was fitted at Nakashima to a House of Forged Express at 45g and 48”. Went forever, just further right or left.

  • @Tywithay
    @Tywithay 2 роки тому +2

    Been toying with this concept, but I'm using a more flexible shaft, trying to recreate the autoflex feel. Using a 45g ProLaunch Blue in A-flex, but dropped the 10g weight in my LTDx for a 5g, to keep the swing weight down. Unfortunately, it's freezing cold so I can't get out to hit it, but it feels fast swinging at home.

  • @jonfister3237
    @jonfister3237 2 роки тому +12

    That was impressive the shaft held up so well at that weight

  • @GRIFF22
    @GRIFF22 2 роки тому +2

    What's scary about this video is to think that Rory is 185 mph with a 6x Ventus , approx 70g at 45" and Cameron Champ is 190+ with the Hulk TX at 44.25" !!

  • @ShaneEllington
    @ShaneEllington 2 роки тому +4

    Would love to see a head to head vanquish vs ventus velocore. Love y’all’s content.

  • @charlesjohnson8356
    @charlesjohnson8356 Рік тому +1

    Do you know how Mizuno's new 230 Driver, shaft is 3/4 inch short? I wonder if you guys could put in a normal shaft if it goes further and stays just as forgiven with higher club head speed.

  • @almostGolf
    @almostGolf 2 роки тому +4

    I think Ian just gave us permission to go to the range and hit driver relentlessly 25 times in a row for more swing speed 😆

  • @elee4368
    @elee4368 Рік тому

    Thank u gents! That answered a lot questions about this shaft!

  • @user_1664
    @user_1664 10 місяців тому

    I game a miyazaki c kua 45A flex , it made the club feel like i was in control . Dispersion really tightened and distance went up . Looks hideous seriously horrible but its staying in until i find something better .
    I had a kuro cage 60 silver stiff in prior to this which i struggled with , something different on every swing .

  • @nathaniverson6828
    @nathaniverson6828 2 роки тому +2

    #txg Xcaliber has been making the avalon at 50g and Tour stiff for a bit. One of the best companies I've ever built with for tolerance and that particular shaft is very Stable. You should test those

  • @benjaminsmith7060
    @benjaminsmith7060 2 роки тому

    Aldila came out with the magnum 44. They even had a tx stiff that came in at 49 grams raw weight and a torque of 3.9! Shaft was amazing.

  • @Fitforpurposegolf
    @Fitforpurposegolf Рік тому +3

    I tested the Vanquish 4s and liked it. As a club builder though the cpm being down at 235 worried me. I bought the 4x (251 cpm) and this thing really delivers. I am right around 100mph driver swing speed. My question now is do I try a 5s in a 3 wood.

    • @DC-jt9py
      @DC-jt9py 7 місяців тому +1

      What was the biggest difference you noticed in the stiff vs XS? Better dispersion?

  • @Kmax051
    @Kmax051 2 роки тому +1

    Would like to see contest with this , BGT, Autoflex and any other contenders you feel relevant

  • @pcruz1208
    @pcruz1208 Рік тому +1

    Did you tip that shaft due to the torque bieng 5.2 or would you recomend tipping it?

  • @ryanheisler7139
    @ryanheisler7139 2 роки тому

    The 180 call is back! YES!

  • @botrott
    @botrott 2 роки тому +1

    Would like to see this type of thing done with an average swing speed player, 90-100 mph but a great video.

  • @CWTRNG
    @CWTRNG 2 роки тому +4

    Nice video! So it's like 20% less spin with the lighter shaft? Interesting. Not sure how much TSR2 vs TSR3 makes of a difference there. Would be great later on even see some more light weight shafts on a driver, other brands, TX models etc.

  • @nickvorbeck2068
    @nickvorbeck2068 2 роки тому

    Who else skips to the results lmao great video guys not annoying at all

  • @jefftaylor9250
    @jefftaylor9250 Рік тому

    Would love to see a comparison between this and the bgt brava

  • @zacharybouthillier6182
    @zacharybouthillier6182 2 роки тому +1

    Just as an experiment I went from my 70TX to a 50S and gained 30 yards on full sent and 15 at on course speed. Lighter is less effort and easier speed

  • @jayhales3822
    @jayhales3822 2 роки тому

    Even with me approaching 60 I have tried lighter shafts in just about all my clubs but find I lose the feel of where and what the club is doing, which shot control becomes an issue. In my new irons I opted for the heavier graphite shafts then the stock option.

  • @paddymythen8167
    @paddymythen8167 2 роки тому

    just wondering for an average inconsistent golfer would shorter length and lighter shaft be a good combination .. shorter for accuracy but lighter for speed? would be a good test

  • @tellwilliams4493
    @tellwilliams4493 2 роки тому

    I’ve been making these for our group for a while one thing required with a taller tea for them I don’t know why maybe you can tell us but taller tee definitely helped

  • @warwickwhatley9549
    @warwickwhatley9549 5 місяців тому

    Great content guys.

  • @evansnyder5948
    @evansnyder5948 2 роки тому

    A couple of questions, what kind of adapters do you all use? And what do you like and don’t about them? Are there any alternatives. Also are all of your fitting shafts gone through the pouring process?

  • @nathanmurray2781
    @nathanmurray2781 2 роки тому +2

    Would love to see a shaft video more aimed at the entry level of upgrade shafts but for slow swing speeds. I’m only driving 200/220yds in Ping Alta. Don’t think my game warrants entry’s Velocore, nor do I even feel Venus red suits my swing.
    What’s a starting point for affordable upgrades to tinker with

    • @kyleleskiw5644
      @kyleleskiw5644 2 роки тому

      Tensei raw white, plays close to ventus blue

    • @nathanmurray2781
      @nathanmurray2781 2 роки тому

      Just looked up that shaft, it retails for $580AUD!!!! I’m after advice on upgrade shafts in the $200 range, for slow swing speeds that could offer a step up in performance from Alta CB stock for example

    • @kyleleskiw5644
      @kyleleskiw5644 2 роки тому

      @@nathanmurray2781 order a PXG driver 200 series driver with it in it 😛 secret of the pros

    • @jimmypickett2449
      @jimmypickett2449 2 роки тому +1

      @@kyleleskiw5644 I just ordered a 4 wood from pxg at 44 in x. 🤣🤣🤣 I then put my smoke yellow 70 in it and now I have a 45 inch fairway finder with the 0311 7.5 driver. I also have a speeder 569 vi at 47 inches. Brilliant strategy even tho it's tipped. I wanted the 4 wood.

  • @pipebliss
    @pipebliss 2 роки тому +1

    Funny enough, yesterday I was whaling on my 9 yr old daughter's new driver, a junior Cobra LTDX with a 41" junior cobra shaft. I was hitting the thing within 10 yards of my gamer and the ball was going dead straight. I thought a short/light/junior-flex shaft would cause the ball to go all over the place and short and that wasn't the case.

    • @jonq8714
      @jonq8714 2 роки тому +2

      I'd happily trade 10 yards for increased control.

  • @maxcaysey2844
    @maxcaysey2844 Рік тому

    If I get about 160mph I'm usually happy. I got to get a new driver. I'm still using the Titleist 909D3 in a 44" TTDG S300! Its way WAY too heavy and too soft!

  • @mpct5011
    @mpct5011 2 роки тому

    Remember the Cleveland XL 270, 290, 310 series with the Miazaki C. Kua shafts?

  • @mattforst6591
    @mattforst6591 3 місяці тому

    Vanquish or Accra GX blue? Make decision for me.

  • @SvingitGolf
    @SvingitGolf Рік тому

    Xcaliber have Avalon 5-TS and Phoenix 4, 5 and 6 in TS.

  • @breakandrun70
    @breakandrun70 2 роки тому +1

    Great video guys, I would love to try lighter shafts. As I am a senior, and I could use more speed.
    Would those type of shafts also work for slower swing speeds? Thanks again & Merry X=Mas

  • @ski3504
    @ski3504 Рік тому

    Is this the shaft in the recently announced TSR1 metals?

  • @tomfletcher7625
    @tomfletcher7625 2 роки тому +1

    I put lead tape under my driver grip to reduce the swing weight and hit it ten yards further.

    • @BigDawgCAM
      @BigDawgCAM Рік тому

      Dang! That’s a good idea. I was trying to figure out how to put more weight in a light grip

  • @211squirrel
    @211squirrel 2 роки тому

    What setting allows the “follow the ball” view? I can’t find it on my dad’s GC Quad

  • @DaltonGolf
    @DaltonGolf 2 роки тому

    Ian, I work at club champion at the Alabama location and I’m looking at buying a vanquish shaft when available. If I go 4x but I like playing my driver at 44.75” would you suggest maybe getting a heaving vanquish shaft or should that 4x be perfect?

  • @BigSwervin
    @BigSwervin 2 роки тому

    There is definitely a lot of potential with this shaft, try experimenting with it more, may be the autoflex competitor

  • @CedricEHan
    @CedricEHan 2 роки тому

    @ian, you might remember my Platinum Speeder 4X....

  • @romansantos2241
    @romansantos2241 2 роки тому +1

    Ian! My fit is with you this Friday! Can I try this? Lol

  • @nathansrqrealtor
    @nathansrqrealtor 2 роки тому +1

    good stuff boys

  • @martyboysation
    @martyboysation 2 роки тому +1

    any reason why you didnt go for the 4tx?

  • @freddym6643
    @freddym6643 2 роки тому +1

    Delivered loft is the same as dynamic loft right? And what about 17 degrees is the magic number?

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 2 роки тому

      It puts the ball in the window of long carry without balloning. (at the given ball speeds) physics! it like the old hose pipe trick the faster the water the more in the air you can point to get the water flow to reach further,

    • @freddym6643
      @freddym6643 2 роки тому

      @@krusher74 So the delivered loft should be less at higher ball speeds?

  • @johnk.atchley5079
    @johnk.atchley5079 2 роки тому

    What is so unique about the Mitsubishi Vanquish shaft? It is super expensive, at least $365. Fujikura Air Speeder 40 has a 48 gram stiff flex and the new NX 40 has a stiff flex that weighs 50 grams. Ventus Blue comes in a 50 gram stiff flex according to the fitter at the PGA Superstore here who showed me one. Fujikura had a Rocket Fuel 50 X flex shaft that weighed 53 grams that was a stock shaft on the RBZ Stage 2 driver. Mitsubishi Diamana has a 50 gram stiff version. There are numerous others. Would you recommend that someone interested in a very light weight stiff shaft consider models released a couple of years ago as opposed to the newest and most expensive ones?

    • @BigDawgCAM
      @BigDawgCAM Рік тому

      Way too late, but I would 100% recommend those old XStiff 50g shafts
      I played an old Taylormade Rocketballz in a 50g for years, and now I really miss it compared to my current 60g X-Flex. Definitely looking to get back in a 50g at some point

  • @suivzmoi
    @suivzmoi 2 роки тому

    when will you guys cover the G430 Max?

  • @kevinharris3672
    @kevinharris3672 2 роки тому +1

    I like the concept of your videos however please consider using testers that are like average golfer with a driver speed in regular flex. I can’t even relate to the video as I don’t come close to swinging this hard

  • @evolutiongolfusa3093
    @evolutiongolfusa3093 2 роки тому

    If you would put a counter weight in the butt end of that shaft at a standard 45.5” length, would that change the properties of the shaft at all. Just thinking that you can put that extra weight your saving using that light of a shaft, and make the driver have more MOI?

    • @jayhales3822
      @jayhales3822 2 роки тому

      Don't have all the answers. But I do know it makes the head fill lighter

  • @maxcaysey2844
    @maxcaysey2844 Рік тому

    Hi Ian... Silly question: As a Fraser, are you related to the The Clan's current chief Simon Fraser, the 16th Lord Lovat, and 26th Chief of Clan Fraser?

  • @Scott-uu9om
    @Scott-uu9om Рік тому

    How does this match up with the brava ?

  • @TP82396
    @TP82396 2 роки тому

    Diamana pd has a 40x as well

  • @mattmaldoff2268
    @mattmaldoff2268 2 роки тому +1

    If someone struggles with an out-to-in swing with the driver and high launch, could this also help?

    • @michaelcade65
      @michaelcade65 2 роки тому +1

      I’ve heard Ian mention in the past that heavier typically helps shallow the club and get it more in to out...

  • @tarr0017
    @tarr0017 2 роки тому

    How stiff was the 4x compared to other shafts like ventus blue 6x or something else?

  • @RichHodyl
    @RichHodyl 2 роки тому

    Is this shaft available through CC in the US?

  • @jm_808
    @jm_808 2 роки тому

    Just curious. Do you guys match the swing weight between the two drivers?

  • @Mike-tl6xk
    @Mike-tl6xk 2 роки тому

    Any idea when these will be available online or in the shop?

  • @tellwilliams4493
    @tellwilliams4493 2 роки тому

    What’s the CPM with a finished with the head on

  • @rhopag
    @rhopag 2 роки тому +1

    I'd like to see how this helps the slower swinger like Mikey.

  • @Mrandreaswallgren
    @Mrandreaswallgren 2 роки тому

    Thanks for a great test. I have been experimenting with lighter head. I gain about 3mph when going from standard Stealth plus to all weights removed. No difference in accuracy. Usually shaft is what everybody tests (at least what I have found). Would be fantastic if you went all in and testet 46” light shaft, light grip (like T25) and light head. Looking forward to it😁

  • @pacypacman
    @pacypacman 2 роки тому

    How come smash factor is never over 1,45?! He’s smashing it!!

  • @toddblythe9104
    @toddblythe9104 2 роки тому

    difference in swing weight?

  • @Dmh1181
    @Dmh1181 2 роки тому

    Brian Harman plays a 5s!

  • @natefoster
    @natefoster 2 роки тому

    I love the 180 audio 😂

  • @alpsala
    @alpsala Рік тому

    12:31 that is freaky

  • @DaveFogel
    @DaveFogel 2 роки тому +3

    Do I hear an AUTOFLEX comparison coming?

    • @markushayes
      @markushayes 2 роки тому

      Do you ever answer the voices you hear?

  • @steinfonell4915
    @steinfonell4915 2 роки тому

    wow! what a dude!

  • @jeremyreeves5349
    @jeremyreeves5349 Рік тому

    Driver bracket returns for this year??

  • @micdogg187
    @micdogg187 2 роки тому

    I just love Mikey swing, so damn smooth and always hits bombs

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 2 роки тому +2

      Mattys*

    • @ConnorLyon
      @ConnorLyon 2 роки тому

      @@krusher74 Mikey too just not in this video.

  • @flipdawhip2573
    @flipdawhip2573 2 роки тому

    love seeing the 3 of ya's

  • @Looper4Life
    @Looper4Life 2 роки тому

    I would be curious to see the side by side comparison between this Vanquish shaft and the Fujikura Diamond Speeder 5s shaft. I would be curious to see how the torque differences between shafts affect the playability/feel of each shaft. Thanks for the content. As always the best in the business.

  • @jaymorin7131
    @jaymorin7131 2 роки тому

    Use the longest driver you can that works with your game. I went to 46" some 20 years ago. Weight should be low but flex is more important as I've gone from S to R over these years. Your tests should include players of varying speeds to see the influence of these changes to know who gets the best bang for the buck (100mph, 90mph and 80mph).

  • @ryanrichardson9915
    @ryanrichardson9915 Рік тому

    I bought à Tour AD XC-4 Stiff from Proclubs (new uncut 159.99) tipped it 1”, threw it in my TSR2…absolutely amazing!

  • @elsey6
    @elsey6 2 роки тому +1

    Can you provide some swingweight and head weight details please Ian. Also the ball used in testing, cheers.

  • @mrcali68
    @mrcali68 Рік тому

    20 yards!!? Dang!!

  • @jamesdickinson5697
    @jamesdickinson5697 2 роки тому

    Hi..i am 7 feet tall..wondering if this may be a good idea to try..what would be an ideal headweight for driver head..im around 2 to 3 hndcp..thanks

  • @j.a.y6802
    @j.a.y6802 2 роки тому

    i use jumbo grips at 70+ grams , any pointers to a lighter grip in the oversize catergory to go with a lighter shaft

    • @martyboysation
      @martyboysation 2 роки тому +4

      jumbomax ultralight

    • @kourt2469
      @kourt2469 2 роки тому

      Some jumbo Winn grips are extremely light.

    • @swingking83
      @swingking83 2 роки тому

      Jumbomax grips have an ultralite grip and have a standard jumbo they offer that comes in at 35g. Winn also has and oversized dri tec lite that’s 33g

    • @krusher74
      @krusher74 2 роки тому

      @@swingking83 i've tried a winn lite and to keep the weaight down they are very soft and spongy, dit not feel like a solid grip, felt like it twisted in my hands.

    • @swingking83
      @swingking83 2 роки тому

      @@krusher74 go with the jumbomax ultralite in a standard jumbo. They are firm. Currently play these myself but in the small and medium versions

  • @Chris_Rowles
    @Chris_Rowles 2 роки тому

    What about the Fuji Platinum speeder. They got a 3x

  • @MEAT0
    @MEAT0 2 роки тому +1

    You guys didn’t quite do it right.
    The ‘Otto Phlex’ is supposed to be two flexes softer, 46+” and 40-50g range.

  • @jerrybuczynski2070
    @jerrybuczynski2070 Рік тому

    I am watching this on my computer 4X flex

  • @kellythomas6866
    @kellythomas6866 Рік тому

    I would love to see a test of speeder nx blue, added to the test that had rdx blue, ventus blue, and currently I can't remember the 3rd shaft, done in driver and 5 wood for us slower swing speed players.

  • @ultimatejay
    @ultimatejay 2 роки тому

    fujikura motore x 5-R2

  • @charlesrohl7635
    @charlesrohl7635 2 роки тому

    🎤 Drop !😲😁👍

  • @paulkielwasser481
    @paulkielwasser481 2 роки тому +1

    Um, are there ACTUAL amateurs who hit a fairway 70%-80% of the time?! REAL ones, not internet golfers….

  • @paulkielwasser481
    @paulkielwasser481 2 роки тому

    Last comment: y’all haven’t done shorter, heavier, and stiffer. Try it, PLEASE. Physics would say that’s the route to go

  • @timothycates1207
    @timothycates1207 Рік тому

    I love the videos you make but I don't hit the ball as far as you guys do. I would like to see a mid to high handicap golfer try this not you guys because you hit the ball a mile. Thank You

  • @charlesqian7242
    @charlesqian7242 2 роки тому

    first!

  • @iamdavidbwchen
    @iamdavidbwchen 2 роки тому

    Can you let Mikey use this shaft to achieve 300 yard. Please.