The Design of Przemyśl Fortress - Walking Through The Old Forts I THE GREAT WAR Special
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- Опубліковано 16 лип 2024
- Thank you Tomasz Idzikowski for showing us Fort I and XV in great detail. Definitely check out his books if you speak Polish.
We spend several days in Przemyśl in August 2016 and took a walk through the well preserved forts around the city that you know from our show.
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Gilbert, Martin. The First World War. A Complete History, Holt Paperbacks, 2004.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. A Combat History of the First World War, Oxford University Press, 2013.
Hart, Peter. The Great War. 1914-1918, Profile Books, 2013.
Stone, Norman. World War One. A Short History, Penguin, 2008.
Keegan, John. The First World War, Vintage, 2000.
Hastings, Max. Catastrophe 1914. Europe Goes To War, Knopf, 2013.
Hirschfeld, Gerhard. Enzyklopädie Erster Weltkrieg, Schöningh Paderborn, 2004
Michalka, Wolfgang. Der Erste Weltkrieg. Wirkung, Wahrnehmung, Analyse, Seehamer Verlag GmbH, 2000
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One big thing this channel does right is the fair attention it gives to all fronts of the conflict. No British, American or Australian documentary makers ever bother to go to the Eastern Front and have a look around. I had never even heard of Przemysyl before I saw it on this channel. Well done to The Great War and to Tomasz who really knows his stuff.
It's great for us too because we learn a lot of things we never heard before too.
Funny thing is that some people in Poland never heard what happened in the Eastern front during the first world war. Even if they heard about Verdun or Somme.
@@DotepenecPL There's plenty of time for ignorance in every country, it seems...
Links to polish documentaries about the gallipoli campaign
My great grandfather fought and was captured by the Russians in the siege of Przemyel. He was taken to various prisoner camps in Russia amd died there. He wrote a diary about his experiences during the siege and in captivity, which was brought back by a fellow prisoner who survived. I am now reading his diary, so this documentary is great for understanding how it was to be a soldier during the siege. Thank you!
Wow! That’s incredible! Sorry about what happened to him, it was a lot of suffering for so many people. At least you have this last testament from him.
Amazing that you have that. I’m almost jealous with that diary you have such an intimate window through time.
Would you be willing to share any of the stories from the diary? It sounds incredibly interesting.
I love how Tomasz is so happy to share his knowledge of the forts. He was seems so excited to help people learn about the fort and the war.
Yes, he was really helpful. Couldn't have asked for a better guide.
What a great episode! Starts with this random polish guy who is timidly blinking and speaks broken up english, wears a t-shirt and a shirt made during the actual siege of Przemyśl; but turns out to be an absolute expert on every topic related to and every stone that made up the fortress... what a great guy to have ten beers with, this Tomasz!
It's funny because Przemyśl in polish means "think through", like think through if you really want to attack such badass fortress ^.^
Unfortunately, Conrad couldn’t speak Polish
'learn polish' love him.
As a avid fan of Indy and crew since 1914, i came back to watch WWI content to understand the area where so many people are fleeing war currently. How a town of 60,000 people has been host to 2 million refugees in the last three weeks. Przemyśl is mentioned over and over and it triggered a memory of its stalwart defense during the Great War. I hope the steadfast spirit of Przemyśl has not lost its strength.
Can't imagine being stuck in that for years.
That's unfathomable... Any source for this?
Can you provide the source, I really want to see the full story of that.
never happened
@@CanadianCCP no it did happen I also heard that story somewhere else
@@eccentricthinker142 I think it was talked about in a video uploaded by dark 5
I wish I spoke polish, I could really dig just walking around the fort with this dude talking about the war.
Best UA-cam channel ever
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Fact.
True story!
I learn more about WW1 everyday because of this amazing channel and the best channel ever. Great work Indy and crew, I really appreciate everything you all did since 2014. Keep being great. This was an Outstanding tour.
glad you liked it.
The Great War Liking it is an understatement, it's more like I loved it :) thanks for replying to my comment
I've been to this fort 3 times but your video really gave me an understand into the story of the site. AMAZING!
Well, we got the best guide you can ask for really.
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I live in Italy but I'm from Przemysl and really proud of that. A city full of history. Really, come and discover it. Cheers from Italy :)
One thing that many people don't understand about old forts, castles, and the rest of ancient mega structures is that they took years, decades, and even centuries to construct because it was all hand assembled and the materials were all brought in by river, oxen, and later trains.
Nowadays, people are used to buildings being built almost over night. Forts that guarded bays, rivers, or an open area of strategic importance were challenging enough but the castles built on the top of mountain ridges were even more treacherous because everything to make the castle had to be brought up by either oxen or serfs.
Today's construction is very technical whereas a castle built 400 to 500 years was all about the labor factor. I really enjoyed listening to the details about this fort. Thanks for your efforts!
130 years is not "ancient" though :) Trains were going to Przemyśl when they built it.
MrOdrzut - I was referring to older structures like the Pyramids, the Great Wall of China, etc. Sorry, I guess I should have been more specific.
Merry Christmas to everyone following this channel!
Overnight? There's a new "development" being built on a road near my house, they started clearing the land last summer, as of now they have the road built in. No lots formed, no utilities, nothing. IDK what is taking so damn long, but I wish they'd hurry up and finish it
Vince Dibona they are building 3 residential area’s near my house. They approved the plans in 2006 and now 13 years laters they finally finished one (with the other 2 having a due date in 2020)
That Tomasz guy seems like a pretty cool dude.
He was really awesome, just consider that he pretty much winged this presentation.
Mmmmm...
30 mins of The Great War! Fantastic!
Spectacular countryside we saw at the end. Sobering to think that this beautiful place was a scene of such carnage. A very interesting tour.
It was a very beautiful area indeed.
My grandfather and great uncle were both in the Russian Army but I don't think either of them had the problem of facing the Przemyśl Fortress. My great uncle was killed in March 1916- on the "Northern Front" but I have no idea of the circumstances. My grandfather managed to find a wife- my grandmother- somewhere near Minsk, I believe, probably in the Vilna Governate. He would not have been anywhere near there had it not been for the war. That's history, it changes lives- and ended so many others- and their mother was German!
It's really...interesting (can't find a better word) when he said that the Russian soldiers were just peasant conscripts and had no idea what they were fighting against. Had no knowledge or training on fort assaults, and simply handed a rifle and told to charge. In all essence they were basically just a swarm of zombies with guns thrown against this monstrosity of fortification. Their survival in the attack completely relied on luck, and their victory in conquering the fort was merely an overwhelming of "sacrificible" numbers.
The disregard of human lives in WWI once again amazes me.
this guy looks and talks like a drunk
i have some finnish friends , they sound the same , its part of the accent
imperial russia / ussr never held back from sacrificing huge amounts of soldiers
Czarist/Soviet Russia was the white walkers of the world.
if u read the new book on the siege russian fire co ord digging in etc... significantly outperformed the hapsburg armies due to a serious kicking from the japanese in 1904
One thing I love about old forts is the graffiti left by soldiers which usually include dates etc... It gives a weird personal touch to history. Did you see any 100 year old graffiti?
Roman soldiers drawing pps in walls: Yes, the real western culture shall be preserved
This is an incredible, incredible channel. And it's free to the public! Kudos to you and the team, Indie.
Thanks.
keep up the gold work
*good
Eran Minnaert gold's not an exaggeration
Nope, gold was spot on.
gold was better!
Discovered your channel recently and now I'm catching up through all the episodes. Happy you finally learned to pronounced Przemyśl properly.
It was a long journey but it was totally worth it.
this is really interesting. i remember when i first heard about the battle of verdun in school i thought it was the germans trying to take one big french fort, but later on i learned it was a series of forts protecting the town which makes far more sense.
It's interesting how the Polish historian throws in some German words to describe the fort as he speaks with Indy in English. Examples: Mannschaft, Fenster, Mauer, usw/etc. Wonderful footage. Thank you.
There is even a German Wikipedia-Article about terms for fortress design: de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liste_von_Fachbegriffen_im_Festungsbau
The Great War Thank you for the link. It's quite interesting.
@@deutschwelt I believe he worked with the Austrian archives a lot. I also guess he had learnt German before he learnt English.
He knows these worda in Polish, Fenster=okno, Mauer=mur. I think that he uses German worda because the fort has been built by the Austrians
@@TheGreatWar How about the German fortress at Metz. Key place in both wars
Man, that was in-depth and seriously informative. Tomasz really knows that fortress!
That he does.
I think your "experts" episodes are great. I hope you can do more.
Indy has come a long way from saying Przemsyl to Przemyśl :D
Wow, this Tomasz Idzikowski fellow really knows his stuff. Kudos to him!
Ok, ive been watching sense the outbreak of war...and just wow! Keep it up, this show is amazing. You honor the past and inform the present. Prost to all of you!
Prost!
Thanks Tomasz ! It's great hearing from a historian that has specialized in this specific area.
Thank you Mr Idzikowski. Keep up the good work. I didn't realise how many forts made the fortress. I hope the book gets translated
You just don't get this on television! Amazing job, looking forward to more of this!
Wow, a 30' total immersion in the Przemyśl Fortress! Amazing...it's such a big place, hard to grasp togheter in a single sight :-) . It's very moving to discover this place through TGW's eyes, worth the trip, worth the money. And THANK YOU for the subtitles, it was a big work to subtitle it all, keep up the good work!
I really like these kinds of footage, old fortifications and such, even if most would be all but gone/destroyed.
Indy dobry zawodnik, jeden z fajniejszych kanałów na youtubie :)
Przemysl fortress was the site of heroism against all odds. Out of 130,000 soldiers 70,000 were Hungarians, whom held the russian attacks over 6 months. But only the shortages, diseases, and the lack of help, made the soldiers to give up the fight and the fortress. Eventually the russians could held it only few months, and couldnt use it any further, so it was demolished. But the resistance held up the russians, whom couldnt reach Krakow, but the death toll was high. Honor to the fallen. Honor to the Hungarian soldiers. 🇭🇺
You gotta be a foreigner
Great episode, Tomasz is the man!
Damn. I thought that it was just one huge fort. Loved the video
It must've been exciting to speak with someone so intimately knowledgeable about such an important fortification. Hopefully someday I can visit on my own.
Wow, that is really extraordinary. Seriously guys, I love your work.
i wish you had a TV show of basically this, going around old forts explaining the design and historical significance
Indy, I salute you and everyone involved in the making of this simply amazing, informative, (visually stunning, like here) channel and the chance to hear thoughtful people from Poland! Keep up the great work people!
Couldn't have asked for better people to meet in Poland.
The Great War It is wonderful that there are such people studying this subject - especially in Poland - a country with such a tortured recent history lest we forget. It fills me with a lot of hope and optimism that people want to learn from history, in such tangible ways. Anyway, happy holidays to you all! PS August von Mackensocks, where are they??!! 😆
This is excellent I've just read Alexander Watson's book on the siege of Przemysl and this is an ideal complement. I agree that the Eastern Front has been generally neglected by Western historians. Hopefully I will get to Przemysl at some point and explore prior to going to Lviv and other parts of Ukraine
I just read that book too, it’s excellent.
Thank you so much for doing this. You've given insight to many of an older and many of a newer generation a glimpse of what it was like.
To see something like this for those who may never have the ability to travel there themselves, is simply awesome!
Thank you again. From Australia!!
Ps. Thank you to the gentleman who have you the tour. An exceptionally knowledgable man. Thank you
this channel has taught me so much about WW1. its almost as if i never even knew ww1 existed because in america we literally arent taught anything at all about ww1. i mean obviously i knew there was a first world war considering we learn about the second world war in school, but i couldnt tell you literally ANYTHING about WW1 before learning about it through this channel and battlefield 1 on ps4.
Though I love this channel and started watching about 3 weeks ago, I love it.
Just a heads up, I am not very good with making words out with people who have accents so if you could, could possibly include subtitles?
Subtitles will be available by tomorrow. It was just more work than we thought to transcribe a 30 minute video.
The Great War Okay!! I'll still watch both cause it's interesting!
good things with the subs. Indie can be really difficult to understand.
like me at a xmas party. :P
Danny Superior I feel you, I get what he's saying but subtitles would be great
Danny Superior well......you can actually turn on auto-generated subtitles and I cant see how Indy is hard to understand
Awesome! Thanks for the tour!
6:07
X files theme intensifies.
Illuminati confirmed
I think that is Bill Cipher from Gravity Falls but I might be wrong.
Illuminati caused ww1. I knew it.
Very interesting =)
Would be cool to see the same thing with Douaumont and others forts of Verdun ^_^
They will :)
Hello Indy and crew. I just wanted to say that I do enjoy your history on the great war. I have been to Przemysl and have seen just one of the fort's thirteen year ago. very impressive and with that said, I have also viewed WW2 bunkers that were in total destruction. A very different war with different tactics and weapons. I just wanted to say I enjoy your program and I just subcribed a month ago. looking forward to more. Thanks.
This is amazing, I was literally thinking about how I would love an episode like this just the other day. Great video!
the field trip really helps to gain understanding of the siege. thank you so much
So glad these specials are finally ready! My favorite channel just keeps delivering, thanks guys.
Thank you Indy and crew! I would never have known the story of these forts without your excellent channel. This was an excellent episode.
Absolutely surreal....
Love these specials. This was incredibly informativ, not to many understand the awesome task it was to take or defend these mosters anymore. Keep up the good work guys.
A drone would be a good investment.
+TheBingbang69 not on a EU border though. And we need someone who can fly it too.
The Great War Yes of course not on the borders :). As far as I know, it should not be that difficult to fly a drone. Greetings from Denmark amazing work.
This is really Awesome! Thanks for making and sharing!
Thank you very much for providing the closed captions! I was able to gain much more from this video by these then trying to understand what was being said!
Did you guys ever thought about taking a look into the fortress of Ehrenbreitstein in Koblenz to have a view into a not destroyed fortress of similar age? Would only be a short trip if you are in Köln for some reason. ;)
I thought Ehrenbreitstein was rather a fort of Renaissance era.
RGA1944 finished in 1838 and in service till 1918 I thought it maybe interesting since it never was attacked and is mainly intact.
Are there any other undamaged fortresses of that era around in Europe? (I guess Switzerland has some but they probably got modernized over and over again after 1918.)
It got modernized by the Prussians but the basic layout was still the star fort style of 17-18th century.
There are several intact 19th-century fortresses in Sweden as well. They were not modernized as Sweden lost its superpower status. One of them is the Vaxholm fortress. Anecdote said that the Great Molke smiled only twice in his life: once when his mother in law died and the other when he saw Vaxholm.
RGA1944 as far as I know the Prussians rebuild Ehrenbreitenstein from the ground starting around 1818 so - and much of the fighting in ww1 happend in such outdated brick fortresses.
When did they stop to modernize the fortresses in Sweden?
If you guys want a real long trip, Devonport, Auckland , New Zealand has all its fortifications still in place from around 1900 , built to stand off the expected Russian invasion. Nothing like so big as Przemysl but all the usual bits of forts plus great views.
High quality and very informative as always from you guy I really like these videos that go straight to sites of the war it really adds to the enormity of the battles
As a Polish dude, that's an incredible work in my eyes that you actually visited my country and other countries to make a docummentaries about these historical places!
Great work! I am so happy that you could go there and film this awsome video for us. Thanks! ( 2 more years of great content for us. Maybe more ;) . I hope that you can make it until the end! )
I have been waiting for this episode. It was very informative, great job!
Great work as usual, thanks for "taking us to places" it was very instructive.
Glad you enjoyed it.
I'm going to have to watch this video a few more times. There is so much information that it's hard to keep straight! New to the channel but absolutely love it, keep up the great work
Welcome to the shwo.
This would be an awesome hangout if I were a young teenager in Poland.
As someone who had moved in przemysl, it really is
Wow! Very interesting! It's nice to be able to see what these forts looked like and to get a real feel for what the defenders and the attackers dealt with. Great video!
AWSOME Y’all always have the best videos it seems like every time I have a question about the war in my head this channel always has an answer video that’s better than I asked for
What an amazing tour.
-Jen
The best attention to details ever.
amazing
Quite a field trip to Przemysl, Indy. Glad you made it and brought us along!
Imagine that beautiful scenery after just one artillery attack. From hobbitown to Mordor literally overnight.
I like that you really took your time with that special. I believe our attention spans can handle longer videos. :)
Look at that great Austrian-Hungarian architecture! Making me proud of my empire!
I can't believe I wasn't subbed. I am not joking I have watched over 200 episodes on your channel and it only just struck me.
Excellent! Best to date.
The city of Portsmouth on the south coast of England has a ring of forts. Portsmouth is England's main naval, as such it was well fortified from the sae. I was though that it may be vulnerable to land attack so several forts overlooking the city were built inland. Have a look on Google map and try to see if you can find them all.
How about no
Excellent!! Really enjoy this on scene history tour!! Thank You!!
really enjoyed it. thanks
Great episode!
This tour was amazing!
Just bought a car. In Brazil we don't have much control on deciding the license plates - they give uns 20 random options and that's it. Between then I found the perfect one.
FML-1914.
I decided to nickname it "Conrad". Just wanted to let you guys know...
Just don't try to cross any mountains with it.
Big shout out to whoever did the subtitles for this episode. Great work.
Just awesome...
Great stuff Indy thank you so much! The ring of forts around my city of Antwerp in Belgium are very similar to the Przemysl ones,guess they date from the same period! Looking forward to more good stuff !
Love the program and its very educational. i do love your series and keep up the great work.
great show i loved it.very educational
thanks for the new added subtitles! : D
Really interesting! Great episode!
Very very very interesting! Keep up the good work, Folks!
thanks for doing those specials!
Finally somebody who says "Przemyśl" right. Sorry Indy but thats the truth :P Cheers from Poland.
Really interesting thank you
We need more of Tomasz Idzikowski .Praise to the brave Poles.Thanks to Indy and the crew of The Great War for the history.
exceptional work !
Just got done cooking and was wondering what I should watch. This is perfect! The wait has paid off!
+Phil DA bon appetite
I cant really understand why people would unlike this kind of stuff.
AAAAHHHHHH YEEEEE, been waiting for this one!
Great to see that historic fortress, kudos for going there!