The garage i work for look after a fleet of these vans. Many with over 100k miles. We change the oil every 10k which is way lower than the schedule. I think this has really helped in seeing many with over 100k miles without cambelt issues. Great video 👌
it's a good thing they are easy to work on as well lol those wet belts have a knack for failing prematurely if you even slightly screw up on servicing and maintenance.
Just to say very good video your channel came up as suggested I have subscribed and liked the video, you need to get to 1000 subs I believe to get monetised, those engines are surrounded by horror stories but seeing the rebuild a belt change at 60000 km would be a good idea , cannot say I'm a fan of the wet belt I'm just surprised they font make it easier to change the belt,
On our early one of these it had torx head bolts , the top snapped off one and it was promptly ejected through side of cam shaft box, Fords manual said it may be necessary to weld bolt to top of these to undo ,
Great Job mate! I was wondering if you have torque specs for the connecting rods and main bearing caps? and where were you able to get hold of the new bolts? Thanks in advance
Exactly,Ford have used crap parts for years and got away with it,in the 1960s their camshaft and followers were absolutely crap lasting 45,000 if you were lucky in their pre Crossflow engines,they had troubles with the later OHC engines with camshaft’s again, they never learn or didn’t care as long as they lasted the 12months warranty that was the case in those days,since the 3year 60,000 mile warranty came in they had to up their game but it seems they have forgotten about quality all over again,changing these wet belts at 50,000 miles is ridiculous on a 2litre diesel which should be capable of around 300,000 miles without problems. Ford vans are not cheap anymore so the least they could do is put decent parts in them. I used to always buy Ford but the last one I owned was a 2014 Kuga with the 2 lire diesel and that shit Powershift gearbox which was trouble from day one brand new,I’ve always bought BMW since and had no problems.
Two things this engine shoud have, 1, a kind of a chamber to colect the belt pieces if it hapens before the oil pump, the way that you could clean and check on every oil change, just taking 4 bolts of and take a lid out of the sump and clean the inside if is the caso, bacause this way all the debris woul'd be retained there and not in the oil pump. 2 an opening on top of the wet belt, on the valves cover, to check the top os the wet belt. The chamber down belom in the sump it coul'd be possible to do a visual check on the oil wet belt.....as it is today, it is needed to take the whole eighter the sump or the valves cover...or both just to see how the wet belts are..., it would be very easy to check it over time. as it is today most cases we find out that the wet belt snaped or the oil light turned on when the problem is very late to be fixed...causing the engine total failure...the ones that doesn't it is by lucky....or put a chain in it and forget all i wrote before....if i coul'd pick, i'd stick with the chain...
new sub. thank you for posting. you are very fastidious - intended as a high compliment. i watch a lot of youtube videos at 1.25x or 1.50x playback speed, to keep from getting bored. i watched this video at 0.75x & 0.50x playback speed to better appreciate your artistry. spoiled the good music, unfortunately : ) .
Great video loved it thanks for posting!! QUESTION i have the ford custom 2.0 eco blue 2019, had it from brand new and its only done 17,500 miles oil has been changed every year. No short runs as it’s a camper van now, when would you say i need to change the cam belt. I was thinking at 7 years any recommendations would be helpful thanks Michael
I've got a 2019 3.5t Luton with the same engine, the official service interval for the wet belt in these engines is 100,000 miles, or 10 years. If you read up on it a bit online you'll hear a lot of people slagging this engine off, I know a chap that works on them all the time and he has reassured me that it's nothing to worry about it until then, provided that you service it, put the correct oil in it, and don't drive it like a bell end :)
This engine is not a problem . A problem is bad oil and too long oil replacemant interval . Old school say Oil replace 10k km and timing belt 70-100k km. With this engine you have to use oil 0w30 recomended for wet timing belt . When you use another oil then you got timing belt degradation
@@KaienDemon91 I work in the automotive industry and am quite aware that I need 0W30 950A for this engine. I sell the oil myself. The car was brand knew and the belt lost all teeth at around 100.000 km. Officially the belt was to be changend at 180.000. Ridiculous, but thats what the engineers at Ford say. I just assumed they know what they are doing. The newer model has an interval of 220.000 km, btw. This engine is an over engineered piece of junk with this experimental timing belt bullshit. And it's weak, too. Car drove like a wandering dune.
I change the oil of my Transit every 15000km, last time I saw parts of the timing belt in my old oil, after that I changed the belt at my Ford dealer (86000km in total)... The engine is good, but the intervals are way too long, for the oil change every 50000km and the belt up to 200000km... That's stupid!
Another one of FORDS "better ideas" Timing cover that you must destroy to get off, Belt for oil pump. Other than that a pretty good little engine. Sad that manufacturers look at bottom line so much that it effects the buyers of these vehicles.
Great video. I'm not a mechanic and I was wondering how long did the rebuild take? You are one of the cleanest and most organized mechanics on youtube. I look forward to your next video.
I said when Ford said they were using these belts that they’d lost their minds running a belt in hot engine oil but they assured me that the belts were designed to last the life of the engine,what a load of Bullshit there failings long before that,the should have used a chain but as usual Ford take the cheapest way out,it’s no wonder their warranty claims are through the roof,failures after the warranty period must be costing owners a fortune,these engines should be capable of doing 300,000 miles no problem if their maintained properly. You don’t get these problems with Sprinter engines which I’ve seen do over 500,000 miles and that was running long life oil draining periods which I never would risk it with the price of engine failure over the cost of regular engine oil changes.
I think you are using the wrong cilinder head gasket. 27:29 you can see on top of the gasket there are 5 smal tiktak shaped things sticking out. This indicates the thickness of the gasket. On the first gasket there are only 2 Tiktaks visible. 5:02. The nee gasket you placed is a little bit thicker
All this needed is new timing belt, camshafts and all the roker arms and lifters repalced it would have started right up. Didnt need the cylinder head removing. The rocker arms are made to be sacrificial in a case like the timing belt breaking. I done a volkswagen amarok diesel and 2 years still runnning like new.
i am not a mechanic but the problem was that the belts teeth gave up , maybe the camshaft did not have much inertia thus not giving the shaft a hard time , i am most likely wrong .
Aromatics in the oil either in the oil itself (wrong stuff used) or diesel past the rings or both. As a long time oil industry Engineer never put rubber with oil and expect it to end well it wont. I would be ashamed to design that. Video is great as it shows buying a Ford ECO is a no no
We have 9 of these rubbish vans all with full service history 3 so far have had belt failures one with only 75k miles on it ford not interested in any form of compensation. We will never buy another ford
@@gasman4451 We have 6 of these and despite being serviced every 6 thousand miles they still break! As do turbos at 120,000m and adblue systems every month. Plastic coolant pipes crack likewise coolant reservoir, access is dreadful , glow plugs take hours to change, egr is inaccessible, even the oil filler cap needs pliers to remove, unacceptable. Chassis are tough though but no compensation if theres no engine to propel it.
I work for a fleet management company and we have a good few of these vans, they're inspected every 6 weeks, and get an oil change every year and they still have a habit of going boom. Say what you want but a belt was a poor decision.
All for a tiny marginal like probably 0.1% efficiency gain lol so stupid they only care about it lasting long enough for there short warranty period dont care about long term reliability just to get a tiny gain in better fuel economy/emissions
All the big manufacturers do now. The belt can be inspected on this engine, relatively easy too. But Ford aren't doing that at the moment because of supply issues with the belts 💩
That is how, the roadside mechanics do it in Africa..! But they on tighten their bolts once and they don't use tourqe specifications or any Autodata...!🤔😮
Ford'un 2.0 ecoblu motoru son derece sıkıntılı.Transit henüz 80.000 kilometrede ve garip bir şekilde sarsıntılı çalışıyor.Aracın çekiş gücü zayıf.V347 transit 2,4 lt dizel motordan sonra çıkan transitler işe yaramaz.
replace it in front of time and replace the oil every 20.00km I have 210.000 km in 2.5 years I drive min 700 km a day ....... Renault is worse believe me !
great video. absolute professionalism.
The garage i work for look after a fleet of these vans. Many with over 100k miles. We change the oil every 10k which is way lower than the schedule. I think this has really helped in seeing many with over 100k miles without cambelt issues. Great video 👌
Оооо, оце розумна людина написала розумну річ. А то міняють мастило раз в 30-40k km і жаліються, що двигун здох на 100k Km
I got 210.000km in 2.5years oil change max every 20.00km
belt replaced after 160.000 km hoping for the best :)
Donc il vaut mieux faire une vidange tt les 40000km pour éviter les problèmes ?@@luc-alaindehaes3512
Quel véhicule, quel motorisation ?@@luc-alaindehaes3512
Great job. One well sorted engine 👍
About time someone shared these problems with this Ford 2l eco belts
A very simple engine and very easy to work on. Great video. Not sure about back ground music thou!!
it's a good thing they are easy to work on as well lol
those wet belts have a knack for failing prematurely if you even slightly screw up on servicing and maintenance.
good job well done young man .
I can't stop watching again and again! What a great and informative video. Thank you so much mate
another subscriber !
greetings from Morocco !
Best video. Thank you
Just to say very good video your channel came up as suggested I have subscribed and liked the video, you need to get to 1000 subs I believe to get monetised, those engines are surrounded by horror stories but seeing the rebuild a belt change at 60000 km would be a good idea , cannot say I'm a fan of the wet belt I'm just surprised they font make it easier to change the belt,
On our early one of these it had torx head bolts , the top snapped off one and it was promptly ejected through side of cam shaft box, Fords manual said it may be necessary to weld bolt to top of these to undo ,
Good job!
Great Job mate! I was wondering if you have torque specs for the connecting rods and main bearing caps? and where were you able to get hold of the new bolts? Thanks in advance
This my friends is an engine designed by bean counters.
Exactly,Ford have used crap parts for years and got away with it,in the 1960s their camshaft and followers were absolutely crap lasting 45,000 if you were lucky in their pre Crossflow engines,they had troubles with the later OHC engines with camshaft’s again, they never learn or didn’t care as long as they lasted the 12months warranty that was the case in those days,since the 3year 60,000 mile warranty came in they had to up their game but it seems they have forgotten about quality all over again,changing these wet belts at 50,000 miles is ridiculous on a 2litre diesel which should be capable of around 300,000 miles without problems. Ford vans are not cheap anymore so the least they could do is put decent parts in them. I used to always buy Ford but the last one I owned was a 2014 Kuga with the 2 lire diesel and that shit Powershift gearbox which was trouble from day one brand new,I’ve always bought BMW since and had no problems.
Great! Thank You!
Two things this engine shoud have, 1, a kind of a chamber to colect the belt pieces if it hapens before the oil pump, the way that you could clean and check on every oil change, just taking 4 bolts of and take a lid out of the sump and clean the inside if is the caso, bacause this way all the debris woul'd be retained there and not in the oil pump.
2 an opening on top of the wet belt, on the valves cover, to check the top os the wet belt. The chamber down belom in the sump it coul'd be possible to do a visual check on the oil wet belt.....as it is today, it is needed to take the whole eighter the sump or the valves cover...or both just to see how the wet belts are..., it would be very easy to check it over time. as it is today most cases we find out that the wet belt snaped or the oil light turned on when the problem is very late to be fixed...causing the engine total failure...the ones that doesn't it is by lucky....or put a chain in it and forget all i wrote before....if i coul'd pick, i'd stick with the chain...
I like these engines and think they are great . As long as the belt is changed around 50k .
50 k ??? service at 180.000 200.00 km ???
You are very clever.
Had a customer the other day with belt failure on transit stripped camshafts off to find no damage so rebuilt and new belt was away lucky 1 i guess!
Would be great if there was a cam chain retrofit for this engine and some higher tension piston rings as well.
new sub. thank you for posting. you are very fastidious - intended as a high compliment. i watch a lot of youtube videos at 1.25x or 1.50x playback speed, to keep from getting bored. i watched this video at 0.75x & 0.50x playback speed to better appreciate your artistry. spoiled the good music, unfortunately : ) .
Good jop, thank you.
Id like to know what newish vans have good solid engines as im looking for a nearly new van
Good video 🙂👍
Amazing
Thanks
Good thanks
why do you pull the head screws 4x90 degrees, according to ford instructions only three times ?
Do the tappets have a circuit on them that you have to remove
Good day, please tell me the tightening torques for the root and connecting rod, thank you in advance
Moin moin,sag mal bleiben die ventile heile ? Oder waren alle krumm ?
Is this the same engine they use in the ford Focus mk4 2019
Hi, can you tell me cam shafts tork settings please 🙏
Hi what's your torque settings piston rod bolts , 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Great video loved it thanks for posting!! QUESTION i have the ford custom 2.0 eco blue 2019, had it from brand new and its only done 17,500 miles oil has been changed every year. No short runs as it’s a camper van now, when would you say i need to change the cam belt. I was thinking at 7 years any recommendations would be helpful thanks Michael
I've got a 2019 3.5t Luton with the same engine, the official service interval for the wet belt in these engines is 100,000 miles, or 10 years.
If you read up on it a bit online you'll hear a lot of people slagging this engine off, I know a chap that works on them all the time and he has reassured me that it's nothing to worry about it until then, provided that you service it, put the correct oil in it, and don't drive it like a bell end :)
100,000 or 6 years as from 9th Jan 2024
Great video, you know your stuff. That is some of the worst music I have ever heard in my life.
The same happened to my Transit. Shit engine with the timing belt in oil. I repaired that piece of junk and sold it.
This engine is not a problem . A problem is bad oil and too long oil replacemant interval . Old school say Oil replace 10k km and timing belt 70-100k km. With this engine you have to use oil 0w30 recomended for wet timing belt . When you use another oil then you got timing belt degradation
@@KaienDemon91 I work in the automotive industry and am quite aware that I need 0W30 950A for this engine. I sell the oil myself. The car was brand knew and the belt lost all teeth at around 100.000 km. Officially the belt was to be changend at 180.000. Ridiculous, but thats what the engineers at Ford say. I just assumed they know what they are doing. The newer model has an interval of 220.000 km, btw. This engine is an over engineered piece of junk with this experimental timing belt bullshit. And it's weak, too. Car drove like a wandering dune.
I change the oil of my Transit every 15000km, last time I saw parts of the timing belt in my old oil, after that I changed the belt at my Ford dealer (86000km in total)... The engine is good, but the intervals are way too long, for the oil change every 50000km and the belt up to 200000km... That's stupid!
@@KaienDemon91 I asked a service centre about this. If you follow service interval for oil change, the timing belt should be changed at 180k km.
What is the final torque of the head bolts and camshaft case? 😅
The Peugeot engine is like this it saves a fraction of the fuel with reduced friction,
Where did you buy the parts, please?
how tight the bearings are??
How much labour did u charge? Good recycling, but my boss would just say put a new engine in it 😁
Another one of FORDS "better ideas" Timing cover that you must destroy to get off, Belt for oil pump. Other than that a pretty good little engine. Sad that manufacturers look at bottom line so much that it effects the buyers of these vehicles.
do the valves
bent ?
Great video. I'm not a mechanic and I was wondering how long did the rebuild take? You are one of the cleanest and most organized mechanics on youtube. I look forward to your next video.
Thank you very much
It was about 10 working hours but spred over there days ordering parts and head skimming etc..
I said when Ford said they were using these belts that they’d lost their minds running a belt in hot engine oil but they assured me that the belts were designed to last the life of the engine,what a load of Bullshit there failings long before that,the should have used a chain but as usual Ford take the cheapest way out,it’s no wonder their warranty claims are through the roof,failures after the warranty period must be costing owners a fortune,these engines should be capable of doing 300,000 miles no problem if their maintained properly. You don’t get these problems with Sprinter engines which I’ve seen do over 500,000 miles and that was running long life oil draining periods which I never would risk it with the price of engine failure over the cost of regular engine oil changes.
Ok but a sprinter cost a lot more !?
How do you like the safety kleen parts washer ? Is it really good ?
It's absolutely fantastic for what I do
name of last music & thanks again
👍
Witam , gdzie pan ma swój Garaz ? Mam ten sam silnik do zrobię z ta sama usterka 🙁, pozdrawiam
Na moje oko to firma jest Ltd ;) czyli nie sp z o.o. ani jdg 😀
I think you are using the wrong cilinder head gasket. 27:29 you can see on top of the gasket there are 5 smal tiktak shaped things sticking out. This indicates the thickness of the gasket. On the first gasket there are only 2 Tiktaks visible. 5:02. The nee gasket you placed is a little bit thicker
Are all modern engines this badly designed? Great video by the way
All this needed is new timing belt, camshafts and all the roker arms and lifters repalced it would have started right up.
Didnt need the cylinder head removing.
The rocker arms are made to be sacrificial in a case like the timing belt breaking.
I done a volkswagen amarok diesel and 2 years still runnning like new.
5 valves were bent so it did need to come off surely?
It's came only for customer request to replace all lot
I have strip it completely only because was already out
Mine snaped Friday so velves don't bend
Where is the number tag hidden on this engine?
You would got away set rockers new cams on that
Actually not this one 5 valves was bend slightly
How there were no valves damaged is surprising me .lol . How does that happen? People say they are an interference engine.
i am not a mechanic but the problem was that the belts teeth gave up , maybe the camshaft did not have much inertia thus not giving the shaft a hard time , i am most likely wrong .
What causes the belt to strip teeth?
Was wondering the same..and why they have it running in oil...👍👍
Oil and heat
Aromatics in the oil either in the oil itself (wrong stuff used) or diesel past the rings or both. As a long time oil industry Engineer never put rubber with oil and expect it to end well it wont. I would be ashamed to design that. Video is great as it shows buying a Ford ECO is a no no
No doubt the designer also moonlights for land rover and BMW some of the jobs are like keyhole surgery
Why do Ford still continue to use wet timing belts when they know the problems that exist in other engines in the eco boom range
design to break
i know that there is always one and i am that one ,, can a chain replace this crap belt set up .
the common fault is negligence and no maintenance.
Pretty much the truth...............
We have 9 of these rubbish vans all with full service history 3 so far have had belt failures one with only 75k miles on it ford not interested in any form of compensation. We will never buy another ford
@@gasman4451 We have 6 of these and despite being serviced every 6 thousand miles they still break! As do turbos at 120,000m and adblue systems every month. Plastic coolant pipes crack likewise coolant reservoir, access is dreadful , glow plugs take hours to change, egr is inaccessible, even the oil filler cap needs pliers to remove, unacceptable.
Chassis are tough though but no compensation if theres no engine to propel it.
I work for a fleet management company and we have a good few of these vans, they're inspected every 6 weeks, and get an oil change every year and they still have a habit of going boom. Say what you want but a belt was a poor decision.
Why not just put a fecking chain on it , makes no sense once add blue deleted a great performer
You do know Ford are replacing these engines under warranty because of this issue.....
who was the first genius to place a timing BELT inside the engine? Ford?
All for a tiny marginal like probably 0.1% efficiency gain lol so stupid they only care about it lasting long enough for there short warranty period dont care about long term reliability just to get a tiny gain in better fuel economy/emissions
The next generation Will have a timing chain outside the engine to compensate
@@sooos7453 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Little choice due to emissions
All the big manufacturers do now.
The belt can be inspected on this engine, relatively easy too. But Ford aren't doing that at the moment because of supply issues with the belts 💩
That is how, the roadside mechanics do it in Africa..! But they on tighten their bolts once and they don't use tourqe specifications or any Autodata...!🤔😮
No way!
Striped like a zebra
Steam seals lol
Ford'un 2.0 ecoblu motoru son derece sıkıntılı.Transit henüz 80.000 kilometrede ve garip bir şekilde sarsıntılı çalışıyor.Aracın çekiş gücü zayıf.V347 transit 2,4 lt dizel motordan sonra çıkan transitler işe yaramaz.
Worst engine ford ever manufactured..
One of many lot of crap ford engines
Ford has produced some of the best engines, only making sense to produce some of the worst!😂
Along with 1.0 ecoboost.
Change your music it gets to much
Buy renault
Didnt they learn anything from the thousands upon thousands of dead lynx engines with this crap wet belt stuff.
Not much of an engineer whoever came up with wet belt designed engine
poor design. ford engines rubber belt running in oil
replace it in front of time and replace the oil every 20.00km I have 210.000 km in 2.5 years I drive min 700 km a day ....... Renault is worse believe me !
What a junk engine, ford should be ashamed of themselves