Turning Turret III After 30+ Years
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- We made history about a month ago by turning the inner projectile ring in Turret I. Today, we topped that feat.
For the first time since the IOWA's decommissioning in 1990 and for the first time since 1992, a turret on an Iowa Class battleship has been rotated.
This footage is just a tease of what we got. Stay tuned for more - including mind-blowing views from inside the turret that have never been seen on film before.
This evolution was the result of months of hard work and research by our team, as well as input from Iowa Class battleship veterans. We make it look easy, but it's most definitely not.
- More angles of the turret turning: • Turning Turret 3 After...
- Inside the turret while it's turning: • Inside A Rotating 16 I...
- How we powered the training motor: • How To Power A 16" Gun...
- How the turret is trained (turned): • How To Train Your Turret
- A look at the rollers the turret sits on in motion: • Never Before Seen: 16"...
For those asking to hear the sounds of the turret turning without music/to hear the motor noise:
1) There is no motor noise on deck when the turret turns; it's completely silent
2) Video with no music here: • Turning Turret 3 After...
3) To hear motor noise INSIDE the turret, go here: • Inside A Rotating 16 I...
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For those asking to hear the sounds of the turret turning without music/to hear the motor noise:
1) There is no motor noise on deck when the turret turns; it's completely silent
2) Video with no music here: ua-cam.com/video/eD8k6bpJZ98/v-deo.html
3) To hear motor noise INSIDE the turret, go here: ua-cam.com/video/8gt-kC2XdTs/v-deo.html
Imagine a ship passing by and seeing turret 3 tracking and training on to them. Bravo Zulu!
it'd likely be a cruise ship. I'd love to see the look on people's faces.
I'd need new skivvies 😂 I'm a Navy vet, and was never on a ship but I'm well aware of the power these guns have.
I know the radar was made fully operational several years ago on the USS Salem. Imagine someone getting lit up by the targeting radar with the turrets rotating onto target?
Looks like Wisconsin, New Jersey, and Missouri have got some catch up work ahead of them to top this lol
@@LordSlayer001 they would be terrified
How can anyone not be impressed by these old battleships ? They are awesome !!!
Cuz people only care about planes and nothing else it’s sad to me
The USS Iowwa is the greatest battle ship of all times.
I'm also surprised that the turet still works from 30 years
It’s sad that nobody is impressed
No one impressed? Fuck I'm extremely impressed. It's sad that I just found out about today.
I have a feeling the New Jerseys inbox is about to get flooded...!
How do you think I ended up here!? LOL
As an Iowan, seeing the namesake of the Iowa Class Battleship have her turret rotate fills me with such joy. We don't have much to brag about out here, but we have this.
It would be awesome to have a fully functional turret for certain days of the year,to were the gun's and turret moved.truly a historical day for the museum!!
Fully functional turret? I want to see 1500 Sailors on a fully functional battleship!
All museum BB's should be able to turn their turrets. Also it should be at a scheduled time every Saturday at noon or something like that. Make it an event and call it 'the turning of the turrets"
Oh my God, this is truly amazing! It's like Iowa just woke up from a long sleep. To me, words can't describe the sheer awesomeness of seeing one of the turrets moving for the first time in over 3 decades. I have to say though, the turret rotation speed isn't bad for a battleship that's 80 years old. Long live the battleship.
Awesome! The ole girls still got it!
I can’t tell you how moving that is. Literally and figuratively. Thank you!
Man, I just can't stop watching this! Each viewing I am filled with positive emotion. So happy to see the turret move! So happy the crew accomplished this goal! Outstanding work by everyone. Thank you.
Congrats on the milestone
I think I have broken my finger smashing the like button. Outstanding!
Great work Team Iowa! hope to see an in-depth video on how this was accomplished.
That was absolutely amazing. But damn it! Making us wait to see how you got her moving, such a tease!
This is going to be good
That was incredibly awesome
If this does not rattle your patriotism, nothing will! Thank you Battleship Iowa!
Awesome 👌
Beautiful 👍
Watching this made my day
That was amazing to see. Thanks for sharing.
*Shame there's no footage from inside. That would've been something to see!*
Keep yer skivvies on
Shows how wide the ship is when only a small length of barrels overhangs the sifes
Turret 1. ROCK AND ROLL!!!! AWESOME SAUCE!
She's got some life in her yet. Majestic
She sure does!
Why does the simple act of turning a vintage turret make my eyes water???? 🇺🇲
Btw Ryan...did you see this??? (Hint hint...)
Wow!
Just goes to show that she can be put back in action at any moment and be ready to fight again
As a machinist these days that is impressive. People don't realize they aren't that difficult to machine. I'm no expert on battleships but that rail the rollers are on isn't one big piece. Most likely many smaller pieces with dowel pin holes and precision ground to size. It's not any harder back then to do than it is today. Machining is almost the same still today. Obviously computers are added and coatings for the tools, but everything else is still the same
Awesome
This is fantastic! It is the correct way to preserve history. Now I know that - in despite of the nay sayers - it is only a matter of time (years possibly) before one of the Iowas will be steaming again as a museum ship.
i just returned from battleship wisconsin to see THIS??? I KNEW i should have gone to battleship iowa
Bravo Zulu! Is this clip available anywhere without the background music? I would love to hear any sounds made by the machinery, even if they are practically silent.
The turret is silent when it moves. All you can hear in the background of the video is banging noises from the harbor.
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles any chance we will get to see video from inside the turret of the machinery at work?
@@Ghauster It's coming!
I had the opportunity to visit USS Iowa last year. My 10 year old granddaughter enjoyed the few hours aboard as well. “Vicky” was an unexpected surprise for her dog loving self. Hope to visit often and see progress on the forward decking, plywood doesn’t fit the stature of this ship.
Alright Ryan, your move
GOD BLESS U ALL
Tell me more about the 170 tons of projectiles, please. Are they dummy rounds, painted to look like 'live' ones? Live rounds that have had the explosive removed?
Icing on the cake would have been a lined fixed to a muzzle & a guy, or a gang, doing the old 'heave ho' on the line to turn the turret - just for fun, of course. Maybe on April 1?
And, where are the left/right & start/stop switches located that were used for this operation?
American ingenuity at it’s finest.
That is so cool to see , got to love the US Navy . I think they are 16 in guns. Someone tell me if im wrong
Yes, they are 16" guns.
Imagine being out near her and seeing the turret rotate and pointing right at ya. 😂
Now gotta get the engines running
Very cool to see that turret move under its own power after a long sleep. I thought you guys weren't allowed to do that. I may be mistaken, but I think I saw a video from Battleship New Jersey's channel where the curator said the Navy has forbidden them from firing up the equipment needed to move the turrets. Did you get special permission?
I can almost guarantee this wasn't done by firing up the ship's powerplant. I'm sure they figured out a way to get enough power from external sources.
Surely they used shore power. There will be a video covering this soon
For the 4th of July, there should be a “21 gun salute from this ship”…..
Now that would be bad asz..!! Lol
Just a few thousand busted windows…..lol
They need to bring all the battleships back to active service !
Somebody show this to Ryan Szymanski!
As far I know that you need to turn on the turbo generators to move those turrets because the turbo generators produce enough energy to move those turrets. When the Iowa-Class Battleships decommissioned they were opened as museum ships and contract between the navy and the museum was that they can't turn on the steam engine. That means they can't turn on the turbo generators. So the ships are connected to shore power system. In this video the USS Iowa rotating her 3rd turret. So how the hell did they get power to rotate the turret?
@ Marann Fengler. did you start ships generators?
Lord what I wouldn’t give to pass by the Wisconsin and have turret 3 start tracking our ship.
Good to hear the turret is getting moving! But I would have like to actually hear the sound of it instead of generic music. Maybe next time you can just leave the oriiginal audio?
Tnak you! :)
The turret doesn't make any noise when it moves. We used the music to cover a lot of banging noise that was happening in the background in the harbor today.
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles oh, I see. Thanks for the feedback!
Wow that’s so cool! How were you able til get the power to move it?
Very cool. But you want to project some power get them manned and sailing again. Nothing says I'm gonna put a beat down on you like a bfbs
Can you upload the video of it turning without the music? I want to hear the motors
It's in the description. You can't hear any motor noise on deck. The turret is silent when it turns.
I assume you did it with the crank but if you didn't I'm dying to know how much current that motor drew.
Dang! Hard to believe that it's been 30 years! I feel so old now, gee thanks! 🙄
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will you guys rotate them again anytime soon, and if so do you have a date as I live close to san Pedro lol
As of now, not for at least a year.
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles than a year I shall wait lol
@@MONTANI12 😅👍
We're those shells able to be replenished at sea? Or was a port necessary?
Could those ships be put back into action if needed?
These BB's need to be re-commisioned and brought back into service. They are impressive. Upgrade them in all respects including autoloaders.
Did you accomplish that strictly off the available shore power hookup or run the turret motors or did you need to fire up the emergency diesel generator set ? I heard 4 degrees a second early in the video and that seems too fast to be manually cranking the thing around.
Shore power.
Wow he finally got them to work🥲
What a beautiful ship
Ryan on the Battleship New Jersey channel said shore power wasn't enough to rotate a turret, how did you guys do it?
Edit: I read in comments below you were on shore power, very cool someone tell USS New Jersey!
I’m sure Ryan has watched this video. 😝
Ships in the back ground -- *Doom Eternal music starts* (OK yes non-gamers wont get that but it suffice to say it gets the point across)
Serious question though. Would you folks be able to detail the means and methods of bringing that glorious beast back to life, even if just a little? Well done otherwise!
Bravo Zulu BB-61 crew! Despite any negative publicity, the fact that a 70 year old turret and projectile ring can still rotate is a testament to how well the ship was cared for by her crews past and present!
She is 80 years old now actually.
The crew of the Iowa were really done dirty by the navy after the turret explosion.
They are able to be turned by hand which is how they did it
@@williammacdonald3173Too fast. It seemed powered to me.
@@williammacdonald3173 Shore power.
Still unbelievable That I have moved it and the Guns hundreds of times and thought it was no big thing after a while. Glad we kept everything in good condition for you.
It has been my honor and privilege to be a part of the team who accomplished this magnificent feat.
The last time I witnessed this was in May of 1989 when we turned Turret II back to centerline from 90° to Starboard. The myth that you can't train a 16" gun Turret while on shore power has been shattered and put to rest, this goes out to all the nay sayers.
The lights didn't even flicker let alone trip off line.
USS IOWA, first in and best of the class.
"We're IOWA Sailors, when the going gets too tough for others, it's just right for us.
@@martypalmiere7672 Love you and thanks for ALL you did to make this happen!
@@BattleshipUSSIowaLosAngeles I visited the mighty mo. And big whisky... this brings a tear to my eye.... it's a reason why we still have them... sleep lightly and hear the call....their not retired just resting
@@martypalmiere7672 That was the last time for me as well. I was in the center gun layer station, elevating the gun over and over and over again as we used the backing tool to try and dislodge the shell. We had to be using shore power for that.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 If you're referring to the IOWA during the inport turret restoration post 4-19-89 then yes, you correct Sir. We were most certainly on shore power.
I never thought I’d see a battleship’s guns move under their own power in my whole life. So cool! Thank you for sharing this moment with us
You ought to see a "Live Fire"
@russellschuh1634 is it possible for a live fire shot? With permission of course
@@leadheadmike1 unfortounately, it is extremely, extremely, extremely unlikely that any of those guns will every fire again
@@leadheadmike1 Not gonna happen. Also just the safety concerns alone of trying to fire 80 year old ammunition out those old gun tubes. It's just out of the cards.
@@Someguy6571 the ammo isnt 80 years old, since these ships have been in service until the 90s. Theres most likely a way to make new ammo since theres also still ammunition for world war tanks and weaponry made today.
The only concern is if the ship can still take the stress of firing the main battery after all these years
This is absolutely amazing to see the sheer might of just one turret.
Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪
Now looking forward to the "How we did this" video!
It's coming.
That is the question on everyone’s mind!
Wow - 300 Horses of electrical service isn't exactly a couple of drop cords.
Nah just a couple 20 gauge zip cords could run a 300hp electric motor LOL ... great video nice to see a 70 + year old 16 inch gun Turret move again
Well, they make electric cars with 4 times that many horses.
Good to see a turret moving again. I served on the New Jersey from 83-87. I was a 5 Inch gunner.
actually brought a tear to my eye. i never thought i'd ever see a 16in gun turret rotate in my lifetime. that you Big Stick!
I have never been more proud to be a member of the museum crew than I am today! You knocked it out of the park Marty!
Miles, thank you for your very kind words, but I'd be some real kinda shit if I didn't give a shout out to the rest of our Engineering Team........
George Musulin; Dave Moser; SCPO Rick; Maranne Fengler; Gerald Costin(Ship Store Guy); last but not least, Mike Getscher(Ships Engineer& COO). All of us busted our collective asses to bring this off efficiently, effectively and above all, SAFELY ! !
The shore power myth has been obliterated !
Why did they need to load projectiles into the turret for weight?
@@DocbritoFMF We want to use it to replace the water ballast in some of our tanks. It's also for display for when we open more of a turret for tours.
Between this today and the UP Big Boy 4014 pushing a stalled revenue train yesterday, it's been a good week for American might and engineering! Happy 4th!
Don't forget about USS Texas (BB-35) currently being repaired, and be given a new home once she's finished.
So they finally made it do work, about time. Sounds way better when it is working. It'd be neat hearing those work across the plains back in the day.
big boy moving a rev train??? that should've been newsworthy... maybe i just didn't hear about it...... that thing could ALMOST outwork an SD70 loco!
@@handymansteveit's a very cool video, especially once it passes the camera and as he pans over to it the wheels start to spin in place from the torque !
@@braschlosan I'd love to see that..... old steamers are just way too cool
Everyone’s inner 5 year old is giggling with joy after this. So awesome.
Just seeing my ship alive again literally has tears in my eyes. On another note, I wonder how much hydraulic fluid she leaked moving the turret?
Actually my shipmate, not a whole helluva lot, we put 250gal. in the tank, still in there ! There is a substantial amount on the decking after sitting idle for 33 years.
@@martypalmiere7672 I tell you what shipmate, turret one leaked hydraulic fluid like a sieve. I spend many an hour on the electrical decks, soaking up inches of it with a sponge and squeezing the sponge in a bucket. A very long, inefficient and tedious job. I would bring my Sony Disk man and a small pair of speakers down there and jam out to Guns And Roses and Skid Row. So much so whenever I hear a Skid Row song on the radio I catch a brief whiff of hydraulic fluid, lol.
@@CRAZYHORSE19682003 awesome story 👍
The Navy really needs to authorize all four BB museum ships to reactivate the boilers and steam plants for limited operation including the ability to operate the power systems that run the gun elevation mechanisms, and to activate at least one galley so that visitors can experience the Authentic Navy Style Meals cooked right there onboard.
Battleship NJ has a video about the pins that secure the turrets in place. There's just a few welded plates holding them in. Once they're removed, the ship should, in theory, be able to move her turrets. I hope I see it someday.
Me too be totally awesome to see all three turners rotating together
I doubt the Navy will ever authorize starting up of the boilers and steam plant. And, I can understand that. They are old pieces of equipment which have not been maintained. And yet, if something goes wrong it would do so majorily. Also the fact to operate that sort of equipment is highly skilled, not including just how much work would even be required to start it all up. Afterall all the piping would need checked as well. There is too great a risk if restart them. I would imagine the turrets would have a massive current draw to enable all of them to be rotated at once. To then have a shore based power supply capable of handling that current draw I guess is the limiting factor, but, would be a much safer and better option (or else put a massive gas fired generator somewhere within the ship, that also though is a lot of work). But I agree it would be awesome to see the guns not only rotate but also the barrels having the ability to go up and down.
Never going to happen. Can you imagine the disaster it would be to light off boilers and steam plants unmaintained for over 30 years? The sea chests they need are welded shut. It woud cost millions just to be able to light them off. All that to elevate guns? They can and have recently manually elevated the guns on NJ.
Huge amount of money for nothing. Entire steam plant would need to be resealed. Boilers are likely in poor shape internally. HFO tanks have likely already been cleaned out, where is your fuel coming from? There's little reason to do it.
The steam ships I work with have to have the engine room continually heated while in layup just to prevent seal and gasket deterioration from constant expansion and contraction cycles of the surrounding water and ambient environment. These BBs haven't had any PM in 30 years because they are never expected to operate again.
Iirc the turrets are hydraulically operated which is why they can still be turned. The hydraulic pumps can be operated off of shore power.
Could you get an old BB underway again if really needed? Sure probably, after a 3 month drydock period at a bare minimum, for a big pile of money
I would have loved to have seen Ryan on the New Jersey's reaction 😂
For those of you asking about hearing the sound of the turret moving. I was on the 03 level above the turret, other than the normal port sounds the only sound from the turret was a dull rumble. It is barely audible in the video I took. It was truly a sight to see from above, it moved nice and smooth. Also for those of you asking, this was months of hard work, planning and dedication. It has paid off with amazing success. We were wondering if the crew on the cruise ship berthed behind us were watching and questioning what was going on!!! It is an honor to work with such an amazing crew.
Seeing this turret turn is equal parts magnificent and terrifying
Next Episode: we made turret 3 fire full loads again! Here’s a Demonstration! (For educational purposes)
This is awesome to see. Built in an era when things were built tough and designed to last. I would love to know how it happened, the New Jersey has been wanting to do this for years but claims they could not get enough power to the turrets even if they were to remove all the pins holding them in place.
Stay tuned. We'll be answering that question in a future video.
I think now that Iowa has woken up, we'll see all of the battles wake up from their naps. Gonna be an exciting time coming soon i think.
any of the old ww2 hands around to answer that question if any are left, but i'm guessing likely not many even from back then knew all about such stuff.
@@DrewBarkerOk A few years ago, someone made a disparaging comment somewhere about the state of USS _Texas_ and about how badly her conservation was being handled, since they were still attempting to get her ready to move for docking. It got a direct reply from one of the Iowas' accounts, I think _New Jersey,_ telling them off -- stating that the entire fleet was watching _Texas_ to learn everything they could from what her team was learning about restoring and maintaining these magnificent machines.
I think about that comment a lot, now that _Texas_ has finally made drydock. The whole fleet is watching, and the lessons are being learned. I expect we'll see the practical result of these lessons very soon!
As a crew member on Iowa's last cruise before decommissioning in 1959 (before the missiles were added) I can verify the soundless turret rotation claims.
From my General Quarters battle station on the 07 level - I was ET5- I'd leave the small puka and stand at the rail watching the shells leaving the big guns seven decks below.
Rotation was silent, discharge of the 16s was surprisingly easy on the ears (low rumble), but the 5"-38 repeated BAM BAMs from the nest right outside my station gifted me with a diminished hearing that I carry even today.
Those years aboard Iowa were some of the best of my life. Bravo Zulu to all the MSN staff.
AJC
I know its an accomplishment, but I'm not going to lie, seeing that turret turning is still kind of ominous.
Indeed. Seems enough that's the case when viewed on a screen...now imagine seeing it in person as a random passerby that didn't expect it...movement in peripheral vision drawing your attention.
I'm tearing their still queen of the sea... long live the iowas
It .... WAS.... GLORIOUS!!
A LOT of SUPER Work, from our Volunteers!!!
I am proud of our extraordinary operations team and crew for planning and executing a safe evolution turning Turret 3. It will be a memory that they will never forget. Our crew brings alive the IOWA daily, safely, in all that they do. There are a lot of rumors swirling on how; it has been months of planning and electrical improvements to accomplish. Our crew is here to highlight the importance of all historic ships in preservation of national ideals. They live by the motto "speak softly and carry a big stick", proudly preserving the legacy of those that served aboard her safeguarding our freedom. Our crew is what keeps the ship alive and this is yet another example of their perseverance and commitment. For those speculating... we did not activate any of the ships power generation or navigation systems nor did we do this to show up any other historic ship. We did this because we have the ability, talent, and need to do so. One ship, one crew.
“We choose to [rotate Turret 3] and do the other things, not because they are easy, but because they are hard, because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills” - John F. Kennedy
I damn near cried seeing this, im upset i couldn't see it live
What a breathtaking video, as a fan of the Iowa class battleships myself, I was especially shocked and surprised to see one of those magnificent turrets rotate in my life time. It is truly an amazing thing to witness with my own eyes in the 21 century over 3 decades later.
This gave me chills. Bravo Team Iowa on accomplishing this amazing task, and thank you for keeping her alive 👏🏻
Fantastic. To see that turret move I can’t describe how it makes me feel. Being British and to have family that fought to keep evil at bay in ww2 just seeing that move makes me proud
I believe that Jutland was the Royal Navy and Britain's finest hour.....Imagine seeing 24 of these Dreadnoughts in line-of-battle, crossing the T of the entire German High Seas fleet....an unfortunate German commander stated that he looked out of the slits of his armored conning tower and saw fire-belching big guns from one end of the horizon to the other.
Aimed at him.
I was there 2 weeks ago. I saw the part where they lowered the guns. I was not expecting the turret to turn. That was the biggest surprise to me.
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@BattleshipNewJersey your move now
Naaaa, this is "Checkmate" !
Can’t smash that like button hard enough!!! Great job having that beautiful ship breathing life again!!! Next, steam!
Wow! Such a marvelous thing to see again! Congratulations to all the OPS Team members who made this possible!!!Bravo Zulu!!!
May God bless U.S.S. Iowa BB - 61 and all her crew and volunteers ! A most impressive sight to behold. I never thought I would see a turret train, and so quickly at that. Good luck with your ammo storage project.
Absolute chills seeing that behemoth of a structure move so easily after decades of silence! Love everything y’all do, great job!
Gorgeous, she is still stunning all of these years later!
Man, that made my heart go pitter patter. Totally amazing.
I went inside the no. 1 turret on USS Alabama......Its very cramped with machinery and partitions. Looked through the optical rangefinder, and i had this strange sense that this great battleship, sleeping, had just opened an eye......
What a sight! Beautiful! Bravo Zulu to all the people it took to make this happen.😍
That's a big old turret . The work that must have taken to achieve this on old and complicated systems is impressive . A lot to go potentially wrong if you don't get it right . Terrific sight .
Most of the Iowa even north Carolina turrets are still active all they did was pin it with locks and disconnect the fire control system. The main question is that if the fire control system still works and it does there so old but so well made. Don't make ships like they use too nowadays ships are lame and tin canny and look like crap miss old battleship classes nothing more patriotic then these old ships
Absolutely stunning. Just as smooth as if she was brand new.