Never Before Seen: 16" Gun Turret ROLLERS MOVING
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2023
- Of all the camera angles we set up when we turned Turret 3, this one is without doubt the most unusual. We captured the rollers the turret sits on in motion, and we're fairly certain no one had ever filmed it before.
We also discovered something fascinating in the interstitial space - the void in which the rollers can be accessed.
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Our visit with IOWA veteran Mark Harden (mentioned in the video) can be found here: • Mark Harden: A 1989 Gu...
For other video on Turret 3 rotating:
- On deck (part 1): • Turning Turret III Aft...
- On deck (part 2): • Turning Turret 3 After...
- Inside the rest of the turret: • Inside A Rotating 16 I...
- Starting the motor: • How To Train Your Turret
- How we powered the motor: • How To Power A 16" Gun...
- Split screen of the rollers and the view outside as the turret turns: • Split-Screen of the Ro...
Turning the turret was the result of months of hard work and research by our team, as well as input from Iowa Class battleship veterans. We make it look easy, but it's most definitely not.
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No pressure, but you guys are raising the bar for the rest of the museum ship fleet. Battleship Iowa's been killing it.
Listen, just cause you got a pretty lady as a presenter doesn't mean Iowa is beating out New Jersey.
@odin029 Appreciate that!
@@mattorama I think what they are talking about is moving the guns and anchor. I don't think the other Iowa's are doing that "yet"!
@@dundonrl That's fine. But we take our state pride very seriously over here.
Do I have a treat for you, his name is Ryan Szymanski with the New Jersey :D
Its so hard to imagine that thing being built and being built right. It just blows my fucking mind.
No CNC. Just absolute skill and quality
Yeah, especially if you look at what the US produces today 😅
You probably need an active subscription for the weapons to work, on today's ships.
Considering the greasing method used is dangerous to the maintenance personnel I'd personally dock points off "right". I'd say it was *built* "well" for the time, designed with singular purpose.
I greased the turret 2 train bearings on BB-63 as a young G2 gunners mate. Yes, the lowest ranking guys got the job. I was taught to keep a set of coveralls and underwear for that purpose because laundry wouldn’t take them. Although Zion said they used buckets filled with grease, on Missouri we used trash bags filled with grease like a baker would use for icing a cake.
I dare say that's quite a better sounding way of doing it.
Trash bags sound smarter than buckets, especially in that small space
That is some of the most beautiful welding I have ever seen! That's all done with stick, on a positioning table, in 1943! Those are huge welds on a huge precision part, without any warp. Those old boy, or girls, were excellent! We must remember that women filled in the skilled labor shortages during the war and that might have been Lady welding! At any rate, that was a months long welding job and it had to be excellent all the way through. Good on them!
I do not know about Iowa class warships, but at Seneca, the Prairie Shipyard, towards the end of ‘44 most of the weldors were women, and the yard was kicking out an LST ship every 5 days according to my dad’s electrician’s notebook.
A ship every five days! That's incredible!
@@teamcybr8375 that schedule was in dad’s notes for the last few days of production as the war wound down ( and no doubt the Chicago Bridge and Iron wanted to get paid for the leftover assemblies.) There were three lines of ships on the land. The two sides were in various early stages, the center were more completed. They did weld sub-assemblies and moved the pieces on big rollers pulled by crawlers. They finally launched sideways, turned around, electrically de-gaused with AC coils so they would not be magnetic, and launched down the Illinois River to sail up to the east coast and sail to Europe and everywhere else needing an amphibious landing. Not bad for a 270’ by 80’ flat bottom ship. LST 325 lives in Evansville ( another Prairie shipyard) as the last working LST in the US.
@@cadewey6181 I looked into them out of curiosity, and there's also technically another working one! LST-510 Was converted into a car ferry and still operates between Connecticut and New York!
@@teamcybr8375 I was wrong. LST 393 is in Mustegon ,MI as well.
As train operator on turret II, BB63, I never got to see the bearings moving .. you can imagine why. Listening to Zion talk, I have an appreciation for the trust my shipmates had for me .. to not 'goose' the turret while they had their hands in there. Iowa is the only one of the Battleships that I never set foot on: I was assigned to the Jersey first, then went across the pier when she decommed, and got to visit the Wisconsin during the Persian Excursion.
I’m sure they had a lock out / tag out procedure for the turrets, same as for any other maintenance operation.
@@singleproppilot Greasing the bearings took half the day .. tracking down our Turret officer to get his signature for the regularly scheduled maintenance and lock out tags when needed, and swapping with other departments for gp grease took the other half.
The turret does not move very fast at all .. so being told to not play with it while they were trying to apply the grease seemed funny to me .. but I never saw the job from this angle. That isn't much space to get out of the way in, even if I only get a millimeter or two when spinning the syncros furiously. Train _has_ to be manned and lit off during this procedure .. that is the only way to turn the turret to expose the next set of bearings. Other than quarters, its the longest time I ever had to sit in that brass tractor seat!
Yes, saw their names - I was half expecting to see Kilroy pop up in there!
The engineering, all machined from analog computations - and the turrets STILL turn so smoothly - is incredible!
Wasn't Kilroy Army?
@@tobyw9573 -- Kilroy was EVERYWHERE ! ! USAF was army, then; and USMC materiel was US Navy cast-offs. ALL US personel drew Kilroy cartoons.
@@tobyw9573kilroy came from the merchent navy.
Kilroy was there 😊
Inches are better than centimeters.
I am always amazed that something this gigantic like can be built by human hands.
We're constantly amazed by the thought that went into everything around here.
If you haven't seen them assembling cruise liners it's amazing. Then you have to realize all the wiring, plumbing, water, HVAC, etc. had to match up nearly perfectly.
I servered on the USS Kitty Hawk. The first time I stood on the dock and saw this ship, I thought I could get lost for a couple of days on her. The size of these ships is hard to imagine, when you are standing on the dock and staring up at them.
Upper Projectile deck Turret One.....I spent many an hour there. Thank you for keeping my former duty station so clean :)
Still working flawlessly after 30 years: great engineering!
How many rounds fired since new? In operation circa 80 years
@@tobyw9573 Battleship gun tubes are replaced after a certain number of shells are fired. Those gun barrels are most likely not original.
In this modern age of high speed computers, space travel and the plethora of 'technology', it gives me chills, and a tremendous amount of pride, to see the absolutely amazing level of design, engineering and manufacturing from 70 - 80 years ago....and it all still moves! God Bless America and our fighting men and women!
Our dad was a machinist at Mare Island Naval Shipyard during WWII, he ran a gigantic vertical boring mill. He said he cut the bores on propellers, but also did the machining on the gun turret bearing rings for battleships, so this was REALLY interesting for me! I really wish I'd gotten more info and details from him.
I have nothing but immense respect for the engineers, the men and women who built the BBs, and the sailors who maintained those huge guns.
So if those rollers are turning then the turret is turning as well as the guns themselves. To be on deck watching the those 16" barrels swinging around would have been amazing!
I always wondered what that looked like. Thanks from a BB55 volunteer!
You folks need to do a video on everything that was involved in getting this system to start working again. I am really curious to see that.
It's in the works.
I was going to comment - would love to know what it took to get the turret moving!
I toured the Iowa at Norfolk Naval base in the 80’s with my Dad when the Iowa was still commissioned. Such an awesome ship
I was a young 18 year old "BOILER TECHNICIAN" on board the IOWA from (1983-1986) some of of the greatest memories of my life....... BT3 JAMES WILLIAMS (PLANK OWNER) #4FR......,.. I really do miss my brothers in arms......... I'm glad I got a chance to travel the world with my "SHIPMATES"….….. whew, so many countries......... ❤❤❤❤
Iowa has not only led the class of ship, it is now leading the class in museum videos.
Not just naval videos, this has raised the bar for all museums.
This is some of the most in depth video possible.
Seriously, 17" of steel deep multiple decks down.
Great job.
I also love how they pay such a respectful tribute to Turret 2's 47 lost sailors in 1989. What a sad tragedy that was. Another great reason for USS Iowa to be a museum/memorial ship forever.
Way cool. Always wondered how the turrets worked. Seeing it actually move is unbelievable. You guys are over the top with this. Also, hearing Zion talk about greasing makes is so real. Real background history from real Navy.
That is an awesome look while the turret is turning.
Back in high school, around 1983, I did a long report talking about the history of Ironclad ships. My classmates gave me crap about picking that, of course. I loved it though and the battle ships and carriers of the WW2 era were my favorite. I've gotten to visit the USS Alabama when I was young, but seeing this brings back the love I have for these ships. Hearing Getscher & Zion talk about working and specs is awesome! Thank you for producing this video!
So....in the 40's before sticking your arm in there to grease do you think proper Lock out / Tag out was performed? 😂
My thoughts too, I had a real reaction when hearing Zion describe the procedure.
I doubt that, I also doubt they had a second guy there just in case something went wrong (based on safety laws over here that have not had that "feature" for very long)
This is wonderful. Glad that US were able to preserve their battleships - opens a door to the past. Thanks!
8 battleships and 4 aircraft carriers. I'd say they did a good job keeping as many capital ships afloat as possible. The UK for example only has HMS Belfast, a light cruiser, still in existence.
The size of those bolt heads on the barbette wall is incredible, I’d love to see the wrench they used to tighten those things.
« Bolt heads » as in those are literally the size of a human head.
Not only were you the first person to walk through that space in 30 years, but you're probably the only female to EVER walk in the space. Pretty damn cool!
Yes and no. Probably the first female to walk in that space since the ship was commissioned, but probably not the first to ever walk in it. There is a reasonable likelihood that women were involved in the construction of that area, though they might have only walked the area in the time *before* the turret was placed into the barbette.
@@bronco5334 Yeah, good point.
@@bronco5334 Rosie the Riveters!
Some are easily impressed.
Not for the claustrophobic.
Hell yeah! This is what I'm talking about! The more in depth you get into the nitty gritty engineering stuff the happier I'll be 😊
That interstitial space has some pretty serious welds.
What always facinates me about ships of this size from that era is somewhere there are a stack of blueprints that must be as high as a person. Each part was designed entirely by hand. I wonder if there are any documentaries out there that deep dive into how these boats were designed.
Nailed it. This stuff is beyond fascinating. Somewhere we actually have a measurement on the length of the blueprints and it's impressive.
Absolutely remarkable stuff, BB-61!
The fact it was designed by pencil is insane; and I'm sure an army of literal calculators.
Great stuff folks. It looks a little too claustrophobic for me.
Now I'm hoping nobody calls me asking about some stuff I wrote inside some machinery 30 years ago. 🙂
😂👍
LOVE the format of this video with the in-person intro and narration combined with footage from the event, it brings us as viewers so much closer into the story. Please keep this style of video up where practical (I know you guys are busy as hell 😂) great job as always crew 👍
Thank you so much. Will do and appreciate the understanding of how busy our small team gets!
I must say that Maranne ( please excuse if spelling is incorrect ) could never look awkward, just nimble and spry. What a fantastic job you folks are doing on Iowa. Who would have thought it possible to video turret three's roller path in motion ! Iowa has truly come alive with your hard work and dedication. Thanks to all your staff and volunteers.
It'd be fun to set up gun loading drills for high level donors to the museum, using dummy projectiles of course, where the guests can man and operate every station involved in the loading, firing, and operation of the turret. Of course you'd have to sign pain waivers.
That is incredible amount of weight sitting on those rollers. Thanks for sharing!
Incredible. I want to say that I heard Ryan S. from the New Jersey state that the turret motors take something on the order of megawatts to operate, which was impractical from shore power.
He probably did say that.... and he was wrong! There is a video here on the Iowa youtube channel that breaks down the amount of power that it takes to rotate a turret. See here for yourself: ua-cam.com/video/AtVZ0u_Xmog/v-deo.htmlsi=7zNjYcojfloLrySr&t=51
@@SlipFitGarage Thanks!
only about 1200 amps if recall (without watching the video linked below). yes i say only, because we just had a bus plug at 1600 amps go bad at work and needed to swap it out. assuming 480v thats only about 576kw.
@@SlipFitGarage Ryan could probably benefit from having a ships chief engineer on board
You also have to remember that Ryan & the New Jersey are moored in a place where they simply can't get enough shore power to move the turrets, the infrastructure is not there, and the costs to make some other way of doing it possible simply far outweigh what that museum could do. Cool that Iowa has the resources to do it
Thanks for the tour! It was amazing!
Thanks for showing this unique opportunity!
Amazing footage!
It's so awesome to see this stuff! Love it!
Thank you for sharing that! Awesome
The scale ... BIG. Terrific video. Something I would have never thought I'd see. Thanks!
Wow that was an incredible shot that you got I never seen the inside of a turret I never seen them move before this is all really good content Good work you guys that would be neat to show the machinery that runs those turrets back and forth.
ua-cam.com/video/ZyfTPMpLWQs/v-deo.htmlsi=yrdQWh1tiq1wyBg5
I'm really amazed that all this, the bearings and most of all the electronics still work😵
Could you imagine how loud it is in that space when those 16 inch guns go off lol!
I'm guessing that there is no one on earth that could tell you exactly how loud it would be, but I can give you a bit of an analogy and insight from personal experience with the current workhorse of the fleet, the MK45 5" gun. When topside for the 5" gun shoots, double-hearing protection was recommended (plugs & muffs). However, keep in mind that the 5" barrels were much shorter than the 16" when I was in (~47' shorter, if my math serves me) and there was only air to slow down the sound. You could feel the sound and with just one set of hearing protection it was tolerable for a short period...especially if you were 20-30 feet away. Without any hearing protection, it was flat out painful.
I'm sure the sound percussion would be dramatic anywhere near the 16' turrets, but pretty sure that space they are in is both inside and behind/under armor plating. While most of the sound goes out (the direction) of the muzzle, soundwaves are multi-directional, even when "directed." Though, as alluded to above, the barrels of the guns themselves were 66' long so you would also be pretty far away from the muzzle.
All that being stated, you certainly wouldn't want to be in that space when the gunmount was fired. Even if you dismiss the potential for high db. Confined spaces like that can do funny things and can have weird attributes. Whether completely airtight or not, the sudden compression/decompression of air due to the proximity the gun might momentarily rob you of air in your lungs and/or, bust your eardrums. There could also be a crazy (reverberating?) shockwave(s) causing you to bash your head in to some bulkhead or make you bite down so hard you crack your teeth. No thanks.
All I can say is that it couldn't be me! So, thank you guys very much! Truly amazing!
Ngl this video was easily THE COOLEST ive seen from any battleship channel.
Filming it was pretty darn epic, not gonna lie!
Educational, entertaining, and amazing! Only the Iowa crew would have thought of capturing a live action video like this! I think Mike and Marann should have signed their names in grease too.
Wow. This was truly a life changing experience for me. Thanks for sharing.
We visited the IOWA this past summer while on vacation, I highly recommend if you get a chance. So many things to see, read, and do :)
Keep up the great work !
Amazing! That was like a time machine!
U guys are so lucky to have that kinda access to such a powerful and in my opinion one of the most beautiful fighters ever made goss bumps soo cool I’d be in heaven if I could have free range of the ship for a month or more just to check out all the mechanical systems and to see the living history on top of that awesome thanks for filming this
That is so cool watching those bearings movre that haven't moved or been gresed in 30 years.
Look at that bolt above his head! Massive
Fantastic!
This is such a cool video, thanks for it!
The knuckles o'toole at the end. Great video!
Awesome and educational!
Such a cool video!
Awesome video thank you for your time and effort bringing us this.
This was amazing to see. Thank you
Wow, what an excellent presentation on such a niche thing. And to even have a primary source os gold.
For 30 year old greese, thats doing pretty good. Keep up the good work! Between you guys and Ryan, the naval history youtube scene has never been better.
This is just incredible.
Very entertaining and fun to watch. Thanks for posting this.
That is just too cool! Thank you
Very cool, thanks for sharing!
Such great content! Thank you!!
Thanks. Appreciate that!
"You dont wanna hand it to me"
- shows the cleanest hands ive ever seen in my entire natural life😂😂😂
Lighting was bad. They were pretty greasy.
Great video, folks. Thanks for sharing.
Thanks for watching!
Awesome history!
Super cool to be able to see this. Very impressive that the bearings and ways were hardened to such an extent that they don’t seem to have developed any flat spots despite them being stationary for so long.
Oh nice! Now I find a channel for Iowa to go along with my beloved Ryan vids on New Jersey! Good stuff!
Thank you!!
Outstanding!
Great video...👍
Very cool!
absolutely amazing, thank yuo for sharing this.
Wonderful video, and wonderful staff -- good to meet you. 😀
Great to meet you. Welcome!
Like you said, Marann, absolutely incredible! Hats off to all the turret-greasing-gang. along with you and Mike, for this experience! Great reading the comments and replies.
Pretty amazing stuff . Thanks for sharing
Nice! We visited Battleship Iowa in May. Our two boys really loved the experience. They say it's much better than the Legoland & Aquarium we visited during the same trip!
Way Kool, Thank You for sharing.
Great to see video of the actual rollers moving. Each of those 2,000 ton turrets weighs as much as an entire Destroyer - a USS Fletcher-class destroyer was rated 2100 tons!
machinist here, that is really cool footage. I understand wanting to keep it historic but that space really looks like it could use some fluid film or something all over those walls. the grease looks good still
That is a huge bearing 💪🇺🇸 thank you for sharing
Awesome. Some place no one ever sees. Nice video thank you.
i can't believe we let our steel industry get moved off shore, it's super critical video is amazing, i couldn't stop looking at all the welds! thank you!
Right? Those welds are incredible.
Amazing footage
That is,fantastic!!!!!!
Awesome
There sounds like there was a slight tight-loose sound to the turret/rollers that smoothed out in a short time - it sounded like a good thing. Great sounding motors too!
Mark Harden was on the boat in 89'. Dude looks like a teenager!
Thank you.
impressive how fast it moves
Luv’n the UA-cam algorithm…that was a cool video
nice video thank you
Good looking Gunnersmate! Go Big Stick
Amazing
I have been in that space on the heavy cruiser USS Newport News (CA-148) and on the other side as well, it was a nice, cool place to take a nap.🐉Tonkin Gulf Yacht Club Member 1968-69🐉 🇺🇸⚓ Thanks, for the tour.
Cool how those huge welds are in a zipper pattern.
very interesting! Thank you for your work. Greetings from Germany....