I agree! Erik is a wealth of knowledge, and a great human being. The stories he could tell would be insane. One of the OG's in the game. Much respect to Coach Erik and the CSW crew!
The athleticism part is key. I feel like in jiu jitsu we really sometimes look down on being super strong and athletic as if it's antithetical to being technical. But, in reality strength and conditioning will only make your technique more efficient and impactful.
I say this all the time, older or specifically unathletic guys will tell athletic/strong young men to "slow down" or "stop using so much strength". A lot of the time the people who get this advice say I think he was just telling me that so he could win. You have to understand that you will probably encounter someone like that in a fight and they will not hold back so get used to it. Most of the time the person giving the advice is mad because their "technique" does not work. Usually out of shape or older people.
@@sakurabahfan sometimes some of those people are just telling you that so they can win. Sometimes theyre telling you that because thats what you should do.
I rolled with Jake Shields aboout 6 months ago. It was like a mma sparring but very wrestling heavy. I had 1.5 years of grappling at that time. When i tell you, this man wiped the floor with me lmao i got subbed like 8 times in a 5min round. And when i wasnt getting subbed i was panicking fighting for my life. That was the first time i realized how big of a gap theres between an amateur fighter vs world champion level pro lol
@@armenpetrosyan425 I used to train with Marco Ruas. I know exactly what you’re talking about, when you train with people of that caliber, you realize they could end your life at any moment lol. People have no idea how scary it is when someone has extreme top pressure.
My friend benched 550 lbs in college I remember grappling with him after I got kinda good and the strength gap was so huge the technique didn't matter I realized that most men are actually very weak
Erik Paulson would be the godfather of American Jujitsu. He was training with the Gracie's in the 80s and doing Shooto/ catch wrestling. I trained with him in the early 90s. He taught us a blend of Catch Wrestling and Jujitsu.
Catch wrestlers suck, josh barnett was the only one who did anything and he was schooled by nogi jiujitsu guys like gordon. No catch guys have won anything of recognition.
@timothycarey3883 Every wrestler that learns/knows JJ is a catch wrestler. Catch wrestling is just wrestling with submissions. We can go down the line of wrestlers that we're champions. There have been more than pure JJ guys.
@@mr.hemlock1900 enlighten me, i just experienced it first hand, started in 03, i have trained with randy couture, frank shamrock, val ignotov, chris lytle, and am a 3rd degree blackbelt under chris brennan who started the company called nogi. Chris and Marc Laimon left the gracies in early 90s to start own academys focusing on nogi american jiu jitsu . At that time it was all brazillians in the gi telling us that nogi would never be tops, and now nogi guys like gordon and craig jones are the best in the world. Name me any world champions from catch wrestling. I guarantee i know the sport more than you.
Ask Rickson if he thinks it’s a good idea to pull guard in a mma fight? He’ll say no! What does his son do? Pull guard in the name of spot BJJ. Rickson may be been Brazilian but he actually did not have a traditional BJJ style. It was mma based
North American jiujitsu is more appropriate. I love how wrestling is now combined. Makes us better. Much respect to Brazilians for bringing it to US. Humbled.
@@difficult_aardvarkNo gi BJJ has just been incorporating techniques from all grappling martial arts over the years to the point where practitioners care less and less about the belt ranks. lol If anything, no gi BJJ hasn't left catch wrestling behind, they're blending together along with other martial arts to form 'grappling'. 😂
@@Frexican54 depends on the ruleset. In every Catch Wrestling tournament I have entered the rules say you cannot be pinned in "leg scissors" (aka guard), half guard nor can you pin yourself.
I'm an ozzy and I use this term Americans blended wrestling and leg locks with Jiu jitsu they took everything good from all grappling arts and put them together. He's dead right I always questioned why wrestling wasn't incorporated in Jiu jitsu . Brazilians always saw wrestling as threat where they should of embraced it
I came to bjj afer an 8 year lay off, and there is now even more than before 2 different styles of bjj. The wrestling no gi bjj blend and the old scholl gi bjj guys. I am all in on the wrestling blend, so much better.
American Jiu-jitsu is an incorrect term. This style is way older than Jake. It's an old term called American Submission Wrestling during the Pride FC days
1:16 Yeah that definitely did NOT work for Royce Gracie in the early UFC days. I mean sitting back and waiting and capitalizing on mistakes on not what made he revolutionize the MMA world.
Its just jiujitsu. To say American jiujitsu is more aggressive is ridiculous. Jake can be aggressive against guys in his own weight class but against bigger heavier guys and forced to play off his back, he will also lay and pray when it is beneficial for him. Stupid statement... Masahiko Kimura's jiujitsu wasnt aggressive enough? Gimme a break.
The founders of nogi are chris brennan and marc laimon, then guys like eddie bravo and dean lister followed. If you watch them they are so much superior to catch wrestling guys of that time.
@@InvisibleHotdog yes and it was similar in some ways but very different in techniques and what was taught and the effectiveness. Its not just a new name slapped on it, similar comparing judo to bjj. What gordon ryan and modern nogi guys are doing isnt the same as catch wrestling, catch wrestlers are stuck 20 years behind the game still teaching headlocks and forearm chokes. Everytime i see a youtube short of eric paulson or one of the catch guys they are showing some clunky garbage with 19 steps that requires your opponent to be a newb to ever be able to use it. Thats why none of them can win against mediocre grapplers.
JJ is Japanese, it’s an umbrella term. BJJ is just Judo newaza+Catch wrestling, because they wouldn’t teach westerners a lot of stuff. Even Aiki techniques are JJ.
Nogi is the mixed martial arts of grappling. Nowadays we use judo, wrestling, catch wrestling, sambo, of course jujitsu. You have to mix things in there and be more athletic these days.
People have been doing what he calls "American Jiu-Jitsu" since the 30s. I guess that is what comes with not actually going to Brazil, and getting his history from people in California.
I think he is right. American Jujitsu. 😂. The next question I have is why didn’t anyone have a problem when it was called Brazilian Jujitsu when it’s originally Japanese? 😮
There is no such thing as "american jiu jitsu". There is brazilian jiu jitsu and japanese jiu jitsu, wich are two very different martial arts. Those 3 or 4 people in the world that call it american jiu jitsu just want clout 😂😂
Its GRAPPLING. Really we could just call it all wrestling or grappling or even jujitsu or pankration or whatever other term and it would be fine. The point of words is to understand and communicate, not to be the fxng word police telling people what they can and cant call their systems lol If Brazilian jiuJitsu can be a distinct and valid form of jujitsu then American jujitsu is just as valid. It derived from classical jujitsu so it has as much right to use the term as any other derivative system would have. It acknowledges its roots and also its differences. Nothing wrong with that.
There is no jiu-jitsu without a kimono. That's ridiculous. Tell a Japanese person to fight judo without a kimono??? I've fought in several jiu-jitsu world championships with a kimono and it's much more aggressive and difficult than "no-gi" where the athletes just passively tie up the fight and wait to score. A jiu-jitsu world champion with a kimono can beat an ADCC champion but the reverse is totally questionable. The creation of "no-gi" is a result of the current trend where people are lazier, more immediate and convenient. Nowadays everything has to be simplified in the name of supposed efficiency and deadlines.... And so the essence of the martial art is lost.
If you ever become a black belt in jiu-jitsu and compete in the world championships, you will be able to speak with credibility. For now, you are just a theoretical keyboard talker. Are you a white belt in a "no-gi"??? I forgot that "no-gi" has belt ranks. Ridiculous.😂👶🏻🍼@@MP-db9sw
There is no jiu-jitsu without a kimono. That's ridiculous. Tell a Japanese person to fight judo without a kimono??? I've fought in several jiu-jitsu world championships with a kimono and it's much more aggressive and difficult than "no-gi" where the athletes just passively tie up the fight and wait to score. A jiu-jitsu world champion with a kimono can beat an ADCC champion but the reverse is totally questionable. The creation of "no-gi" is a result of the current trend where people are lazier, more immediate and convenient. Nowadays everything has to be simplified in the name of supposed efficiency and deadlines.... And so the essence of the martial art is lost.
Jiu-Jitsu Vs Wrestling has always been crazy to me, it shouldn't be a rivalry it should be a partnership
Hell no ! No partnership
His name is Erik Paulson (CSW).
💯💯💯
His name was Robert Paulson
Erik Paulson 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾💯
Indeed
Yes!!!!! And Greg Nelson
Get Erik Paulson on the podcast
💯💯💯 this!
I agree! Erik is a wealth of knowledge, and a great human being. The stories he could tell would be insane. One of the OG's in the game. Much respect to Coach Erik and the CSW crew!
Look if the Brazilians took Japanese Judoka and changed it to Brazilian Jiu Jitsu then Americans can call it American Jiu Jitsu.. Stop crying..
This
That's if the Americans had changed anything.
Not brazilians, but Hélio Gracie and his sons.
@@farlessouza4364 There are many non-Gracie red belts. The lineage under Takeo Lano is one example.
@@pedrogalvao34Watch Gordon rip through your Brazilian buddies and keep pretending they haven't.
The athleticism part is key. I feel like in jiu jitsu we really sometimes look down on being super strong and athletic as if it's antithetical to being technical. But, in reality strength and conditioning will only make your technique more efficient and impactful.
I say this all the time, older or specifically unathletic guys will tell athletic/strong young men to "slow down" or "stop using so much strength". A lot of the time the people who get this advice say I think he was just telling me that so he could win. You have to understand that you will probably encounter someone like that in a fight and they will not hold back so get used to it. Most of the time the person giving the advice is mad because their "technique" does not work. Usually out of shape or older people.
And reduce injury rates
All things being equal, the better athlete will win.
@@sakurabahfan sometimes some of those people are just telling you that so they can win. Sometimes theyre telling you that because thats what you should do.
@@MP-db9sw I’m a brown belt, not speaking personally.
I rolled with Jake Shields aboout 6 months ago. It was like a mma sparring but very wrestling heavy. I had 1.5 years of grappling at that time. When i tell you, this man wiped the floor with me lmao i got subbed like 8 times in a 5min round. And when i wasnt getting subbed i was panicking fighting for my life. That was the first time i realized how big of a gap theres between an amateur fighter vs world champion level pro lol
@@NAYR8 dawg it was pure panic from me when he mounted me.
@@armenpetrosyan425 I used to train with Marco Ruas. I know exactly what you’re talking about, when you train with people of that caliber, you realize they could end your life at any moment lol. People have no idea how scary it is when someone has extreme top pressure.
@@NAYR8 yeah dude its very very humbling. You think you know a thing or two and then roll with them and they show you that you dont know shit lol
I rolled with JT Torres, and it was a similar experience.
My friend benched 550 lbs in college I remember grappling with him after I got kinda good
and the strength gap was so huge the technique didn't matter I realized that most men are actually very weak
Erik Paulson would be the godfather of American Jujitsu. He was training with the Gracie's in the 80s and doing Shooto/ catch wrestling. I trained with him in the early 90s. He taught us a blend of Catch Wrestling and Jujitsu.
American jujitsu already had a name, it was called Catch Wrestling
Bingo
Catch wrestlers suck, josh barnett was the only one who did anything and he was schooled by nogi jiujitsu guys like gordon. No catch guys have won anything of recognition.
@timothycarey3883 Tell me you don't know shit without telling me you don't know shit.
@timothycarey3883 Every wrestler that learns/knows JJ is a catch wrestler. Catch wrestling is just wrestling with submissions. We can go down the line of wrestlers that we're champions. There have been more than pure JJ guys.
@@mr.hemlock1900 enlighten me, i just experienced it first hand, started in 03, i have trained with randy couture, frank shamrock, val ignotov, chris lytle, and am a 3rd degree blackbelt under chris brennan who started the company called nogi. Chris and Marc Laimon left the gracies in early 90s to start own academys focusing on nogi american jiu jitsu . At that time it was all brazillians in the gi telling us that nogi would never be tops, and now nogi guys like gordon and craig jones are the best in the world. Name me any world champions from catch wrestling. I guarantee i know the sport more than you.
Y’all are killing it with the clips. Even the with the guys I don’t care about, I’ll still end up watching clips
Rickson Gracie had an aggressive style, as did Renzo and Ryan Gracie.
Ask Rickson if he thinks it’s a good idea to pull guard in a mma fight? He’ll say no! What does his son do? Pull guard in the name of spot BJJ. Rickson may be been Brazilian but he actually did not have a traditional BJJ style. It was mma based
Fabricio werdum and Jake shields have never been seen in the same room together
In my 30’s my style was what Jake would call American Jiu Jitsu. But now in my mid 40’s my style is what Jake would call Brazilian Jiu Jitsu.
Lol
Haha yup. My days of trading knee breaks with 20 year olds are long over. I'm aaalllll good on modern no gi, thanks.
North American jiujitsu is more appropriate.
I love how wrestling is now combined. Makes us better. Much respect to Brazilians for bringing it to US. Humbled.
Get Erik Paulson. A true O.G
"No-gi" looking more like catch wrestling every year lol
No gi bjj left catch wrestling in the dust a long time ago.
@@difficult_aardvarkNo gi BJJ has just been incorporating techniques from all grappling martial arts over the years to the point where practitioners care less and less about the belt ranks. lol If anything, no gi BJJ hasn't left catch wrestling behind, they're blending together along with other martial arts to form 'grappling'. 😂
@philipwhitcomb5358 that sounds like a great description of "how" they left catch wrestling behind.
@@difficult_aardvark I just described them melding together, catch wrestling may be left behind by title but not by practice.
@@philipwhitcomb5358 lol, what catch wrestling moves are being used in bjj?
Erik Paulson is American Jiu-jitsu
Totally agree. He was doing catch wrestling, BJJ and Sambo long before Jake was a thought.
I think he just described catch wrestling
He's 100% right, but as an average athlete who is over 40, I like the old style of slow gracie jj.
Jake is a bad mofo. A freaking legend.
It’s called CARLSON GRACIE jiu jitsu
Him and Gilbert were on the juice
Isn’t he describing Catch Wrestling?
A Jay in the house! " Would you look at that"
@@ufcisfake1 what’s up, man! 👍👍👍
Yes, he is! I agree!
Its technically illegal to be on your back in catch wrestling where thats not the case in jiu jitsu
@@Frexican54 depends on the ruleset. In every Catch Wrestling tournament I have entered the rules say you cannot be pinned in "leg scissors" (aka guard), half guard nor can you pin yourself.
Jake legend🤟🏽
Jake Shields is awesome
Rickson Gracie had a wrestling blend also. Watch his matches..
American JuJitsu… I dig it. 🤔🇺🇸
I'm an ozzy and I use this term Americans blended wrestling and leg locks with Jiu jitsu they took everything good from all grappling arts and put them together. He's dead right I always questioned why wrestling wasn't incorporated in Jiu jitsu . Brazilians always saw wrestling as threat where they should of embraced it
Ever heard of Rolls Gracie? Your comment is just wrong in so many ways, borderline stupid.
So Catch Wrestling. The original American martial art.
The real difference: New name and new hype convert to more money...
I came to bjj afer an 8 year lay off, and there is now even more than before 2 different styles of bjj. The wrestling no gi bjj blend and the old scholl gi bjj guys. I am all in on the wrestling blend, so much better.
Jake is a legend!
Keenan Cornelius introduced me to the term American Jiujitsu. But I do think Jake was one the founders.
American jiu-jitsu, hahaha. Fadda jiu-jitsu was known for its specialization in foot and leg locks
American Jiu-jitsu is an incorrect term. This style is way older than Jake. It's an old term called American Submission Wrestling during the Pride FC days
The difference between BJJ and American Jiujitsu is that BJJ exists.
I cant listen to thse top fighters "I was never on that shit but everyone I ever fought was" .... pfff yeah right
1:16 Yeah that definitely did NOT work for Royce Gracie in the early UFC days. I mean sitting back and waiting and capitalizing on mistakes on not what made he revolutionize the MMA world.
Jake is an under appreciated legend and pioneer
Josh barnett ? Catch wrestling anyone remember ❤
Its just jiujitsu. To say American jiujitsu is more aggressive is ridiculous. Jake can be aggressive against guys in his own weight class but against bigger heavier guys and forced to play off his back, he will also lay and pray when it is beneficial for him. Stupid statement... Masahiko Kimura's jiujitsu wasnt aggressive enough? Gimme a break.
One of the best to ever do it
Loll
The founders of nogi are chris brennan and marc laimon, then guys like eddie bravo and dean lister followed. If you watch them they are so much superior to catch wrestling guys of that time.
Luta livre had been around for decades and decades before "no gi jiu jitsu" lmao
You are only looking at what’s in America. Look outside of that. The other guy that responded to you in correct.
@@InvisibleHotdog yes and it was similar in some ways but very different in techniques and what was taught and the effectiveness. Its not just a new name slapped on it, similar comparing judo to bjj. What gordon ryan and modern nogi guys are doing isnt the same as catch wrestling, catch wrestlers are stuck 20 years behind the game still teaching headlocks and forearm chokes. Everytime i see a youtube short of eric paulson or one of the catch guys they are showing some clunky garbage with 19 steps that requires your opponent to be a newb to ever be able to use it. Thats why none of them can win against mediocre grapplers.
Marc Laimon, Cobra Kai never dies!
JJ is Japanese, it’s an umbrella term. BJJ is just Judo newaza+Catch wrestling, because they wouldn’t teach westerners a lot of stuff. Even Aiki techniques are JJ.
Nogi is the mixed martial arts of grappling. Nowadays we use judo, wrestling, catch wrestling, sambo, of course jujitsu. You have to mix things in there and be more athletic these days.
People have been doing what he calls "American Jiu-Jitsu" since the 30s.
I guess that is what comes with not actually going to Brazil, and getting his history from people in California.
I think he is right. American Jujitsu. 😂. The next question I have is why didn’t anyone have a problem when it was called Brazilian Jujitsu when it’s originally Japanese? 😮
Roids make your bones brittle? It's exactly the opposite. They increase bone density. My man must be thinking about meth or some shit. 😂
Lol Shields Has Toquinho given you your arm back yet?
Shields is a César Gracie Brazilian jiu-jitsu Black belt.
Toquiho lost to whohitju. Because after Lombard splattered his brains on the mat people where like damn who hit you?!
Yeah but lets forget our hands though.
So he blended Brazilian Jiu Jitsu with wrestling…..got it a colonizer
Jake kind of looks like Butthead
So catch wrestling that’s what he is describing
There is no such thing as "american jiu jitsu". There is brazilian jiu jitsu and japanese jiu jitsu, wich are two very different martial arts. Those 3 or 4 people in the world that call it american jiu jitsu just want clout 😂😂
It is all just jiu jitsu. Brazilian, Gracie, American, and Japanese are for marketing purposes.
Its GRAPPLING. Really we could just call it all wrestling or grappling or even jujitsu or pankration or whatever other term and it would be fine. The point of words is to understand and communicate, not to be the fxng word police telling people what they can and cant call their systems lol
If Brazilian jiuJitsu can be a distinct and valid form of jujitsu then American jujitsu is just as valid. It derived from classical jujitsu so it has as much right to use the term as any other derivative system would have. It acknowledges its roots and also its differences. Nothing wrong with that.
There is no jiu-jitsu without a kimono. That's ridiculous. Tell a Japanese person to fight judo without a kimono??? I've fought in several jiu-jitsu world championships with a kimono and it's much more aggressive and difficult than "no-gi" where the athletes just passively tie up the fight and wait to score. A jiu-jitsu world champion with a kimono can beat an ADCC champion but the reverse is totally questionable. The creation of "no-gi" is a result of the current trend where people are lazier, more immediate and convenient. Nowadays everything has to be simplified in the name of supposed efficiency and deadlines.... And so the essence of the martial art is lost.
@@Vilão-JabCanhão nothing you said is true and Im not wasting my time with you.
If you ever become a black belt in jiu-jitsu and compete in the world championships, you will be able to speak with credibility. For now, you are just a theoretical keyboard talker. Are you a white belt in a "no-gi"??? I forgot that "no-gi" has belt ranks. Ridiculous.😂👶🏻🍼@@MP-db9sw
Jake is really sad he has to say "jew" for both of them.
erik paulson and catch wrestling gave no gi jiu jitsu it's teeth!
No! Not him…
Japanese jiu-jitsu is best
You mean traditional jujitsu? And you can’t pressure test traditional jujitsu. They don’t spare.
There is no jiu-jitsu without a kimono. That's ridiculous. Tell a Japanese person to fight judo without a kimono??? I've fought in several jiu-jitsu world championships with a kimono and it's much more aggressive and difficult than "no-gi" where the athletes just passively tie up the fight and wait to score. A jiu-jitsu world champion with a kimono can beat an ADCC champion but the reverse is totally questionable. The creation of "no-gi" is a result of the current trend where people are lazier, more immediate and convenient. Nowadays everything has to be simplified in the name of supposed efficiency and deadlines.... And so the essence of the martial art is lost.
C dif
American jujitsu is catch wrestling.
There is no Brazilian, American, Japanese etc jiu jitsu. It is all just jiu jitsu.
As an American I feel its just as well to call it all "wrestling". Unless they punch, then its "boxing". And if they kick too then its "karate" lol
“Antibotics” lol
Antibiotic kill bacteria, testosterone doesnt.
The cheese has slid off the cracker of Jake. Still one of the best. Respect for sure
no one uses this phrase dude
There is no such thing as American jiujitsu, period.
Jakes brain is the size of a peanut
Jake "mush for brains" Shield
Jake is a weirdo.
I like Jake, but didn't he fail a drug test himself in 2012?
isn't this the dude that sucker punched a random joe at some bar for next to nothing?
Sounds like connor
No hes the "Im proud to be white" guy hahaha along with some other really cool stuff
No, but he did slap around Mike Jackson lol
No you're probably thinking of kickboxer Joe Schilling