Man, this guy is among the best UA-camrs to get info. I had no idea this was going on and would have missed out. As soon as I saw the video, I put the game online and did this. Got two Champion pieces and one Hero piece. Went from 587Ilvl to 591Ilvl. Give this guy a sub and thumbs up.
Doing +7 without progressing through 0-6 is the most stupid advice I've seen so far especially if you're pugging, you're also just going to mess other's runs, or they won't invite you at all.
Important note for casual players: You dont need to sweat doing all these. This video is all about how to get hero tier gear which is useless for your targeted audience that needs this guide. People have to understand that both champion and hero gears need M+9 crest to upgrade past 619. So if you are not doing M+9, your champion gear is as good as hero gear. And i assume players doing m+9 and above wont even need this guide to progress. As every piece that drop for them is already at hero track. Tldr: if you are not doing m+9 and above, you dont need hero track gear. Champion is as good.
Btw i stop to play mythic+ long time ago people's raging they are so toxic they leave group etc. Now i am chiling, doing random stafs, doing delves solo content and i enjoy. One time a weak doing raid with guilds and that is it. Peoples hurry up to gear up for no reason then they burn out.
I swear blizz should implement a hidden loot chance boost. Like every dungeon you run without a drop increaes your drop chance by 30% or something like this. I should not be doing 3 dungeons and get zero items. This is ridiculous. Not to mention the last couple runs were bricked by people not knowing mechanics and im left alone to either try and solo a boss or wipe and retry. Its so annoying to not only not upgrade my key, but then in turn not get any reward for doing my key. I have to lead the groups, call out mechanics, cover for teammates not doing mechanics, rack up a massive repair bill, deal with the frustration of people not listening, deal with multiple unavoidable wipes, people not using line of sight, and a bricked key. All so i can get 10 stones and 180g, which doesn't even cover my repair bill sometimes. Just make it worth it Blizz pls!
I agree, they should implement a bullion system permanently for M+ and raids, like they are used to do in the season of a expansion. The game would be more fun certainly
on the other side, gathering was probably never as lucrative (is that a word in english?) than before. I did farm for 90mins with herb/mining yesterday and made close to 100k. I recon when you can farm gold that easy, stuff is also "allowed" to be more expensive
@@marcelrodriguez2067 It is a lot indeed.. now that we can put a dollar value on everything because of tokens. Him upgrading his weapon cost him 12 euro (based on token 270k)
Overall good video. I do disageee with mythic + take. I think doing +2-+4 can be a good start to work your mythic score up. Beacuse people look at ilvl and mythic score on pugs when they invite people. Obviosly if u have a core group by all means push +7 keys. +4 is also a good way to farm crests for even higher ilvl upgrades on your gear.
The point was not to say never do those keys, it is to just not farm them if that’s all you are going to do as there are more efficient ways of gearing.
I tested this and wow, it does indeed work! I got a 619 dagger crafting order for my rogue, then I did the 5 timewalking dungeons and boom, got a 619 trinket from the treasure chest, then I got a 589 from the world quests and another from a bountiful delve. That's the key here it seems, get a 619 weapon then collect and open as many chests as you can.
Doing Mythic 3s and Delve T8s right now seems to be the best investment of time for output. Those two tracks will stock your vault with heroic options. I doubt the average player can push +7s right now. The damage is incredibly high as they are equivalent to old 17s and the room for error is incredibly low, there are many mechanics that do well over 6 million damage.
So how do you get accepted into a pug M+7 when you dont have rating by doing the lower keys? How do you upgrade your own key if you dont do the lower key?
Good question that I can't answer. I would say you have to look in premade groups and hopefully somone is running a m+0 and then hopefully work your way up or go with a guild if you have one good luck.
Its almost impossible with how WoW players think about themselves. I had a 3k io and still would get completely passed on. Its the players thinking they're better than they are. Most WoW players are elitist as hell.
M+ is a waste of time if you don't have a dedicated group The reward to effort/time ratio is so bad these days. Champion gear is a joke now, even weeklies are giving hero gear. Unless you're getting m8+ badges and mythic bosses, then champion 8/8 4/8 heroic is more than fine to do 95% of the content. Then wait on easy heroic raid bosses and vaults for heroic bases. You can slowly get mythic crests too in heroic clears, and just use those on weapons/trinks. M+ scene has never been so frustrating for pugging, people can't clear low tier keys as 610ilvl. You do really need a bunch of friends/guildies you trust to do them to get your IO rolling. Delves also are amazing to get alts up now, just floods of champion gear everywhere.
Absolutely not true. There are new badges mounts coming out. These mounts are 5k badges each. So, you have to run time walkers to get the mounts, toys, and old rep tokens. Not to mention the new trnsmogs.
Done it 4 times. Even on a character I dinged a couple of hours earlier who was only about 580 ilvl. Had no issues finding an invite. It's so easy to gear upto that level now with all the "free" 580 ish pieces you get from quartermasters and warbound items you pick up.
The event is over but generally speaking, people shouldn't be rejecting you because of your item level considering it all scales down to ilvl 75 (until 11.0.5). I know it happens anyway, I apply while wearing azerite, old tier, trinkets, and other stuff that's technically BiS for timewalking, and when I get rejected I just assume the raid leader is a clown
So I just hit max level my paladin, did some weekly stuff casually then jumped into a time walking had people give me loot got those 2 caches and bought green gear in the slots I didn't have. Then upgraded those to 580, and am 586 in one night 😂 ready for normal on the alt retail gearing is definitely the best it's ever been I think the expansions gonna be quick that's why they're doing it like this
According to the roadmap nothing changed, expansion will be 2 years or so but I think blizzard realise there are no arguments to hold gear, players that take the season serious will gear up anyway, why not help the casuals more
@@TheComebackKids idk vanilla thru Mists had pretty straightforward crafting mechanics.. This new shit.. why do normal bolts of cloth have quality rating? Nobody wants the 1* bronze shit, either.. making these items literally unsellable.
I agree, this crafting system is bullshit. Why does it look like as the auction house? Then you need those items that you can buy from AH but thise have different tiers, then you have these order types. This whole system is too advanced, for what? Why not make this easier?
@@mnrqt The UI is horrible. Open and closing windows so you can see what you need then close it then open AH then close it and open crafting then open bags, then bank then AH... it's horrible
This crafting is out of hand, it's the most confusing and unsatisfying way to attain gear. The 'Social Engagement' aspect of it is talking to some copy paste lines from a gold farmer.
I've been following since Season of Discovery and I'm so glad that you continue to make content for War Within. These are some great tips plus it gives me a video to share when people ask "how did you get your ilvl so quickly?"
I got a 613 cloak from the 5 timewalking quest because it was 6/8 upgraded on receiving it via RNG. It was actually higher ilvl than the 610 item I got from the Illidan kill.
Got a hero piece from my vault (616 from tier 8 delves) & another (610) from the weekly black temple raid quest. As much as I like the crafting gear, you're unable to upgrade it but it can be a huge upgrade for a piece you just can't get to drop, and the gold cost for the mats can be tough to swallow unless gold isn't a problem. Currently at 606 ilvl mostly thanks to tier 8 bountiful delves!
I want to play and not worry about how I get items or what professions I need and where I can get materials for them, I just want to do PvP and think about which skills and logic make sense to defeat the opponent if I do But first I have to do PvE for 2 days or more and then realize that it has no balance, I just don't feel like it anymore. You are the best and helpfull content for WoW player , thanks !.
Raiderio is everything. Its not about the loot. That score will get you into higher m plus later on. And the gear is heroic or mythic quality and can be upgraded. The currentcy to upgrade mythic comes from level 8 delves or mythic plus 4. m plus in my opinion is not a waste of time.
1 thing he didnt mention was in order to get the quest you have to have completed the campaign the entire campaign even the 5 part you cant skip at the end.
I got my chest piece hero level from time walking and then I converted to a tier piece now I have two pieces of tier gear. Got upgrade piece in raid finder this week i went from 570-583 ilvl half my gear is the honor pvp gear so it's hopefully i can keep upgrading gear i need
You can do them with out a key to get a map yes but it's still very rng I think I probably have run every delve like 3 times and had 2 maps drop so good luck. To me at least it's not worth running a bountiful delve without a key and a map so you can get two pieces of gear over just one and bountiful delves I think give you the higher gear score also.
This is so helpful man as soon as I get off of work I’m get shit done and I joined the discord ohhh and I subed and gave you a 👍 😂😂😂😂😂😊 thanks four the info man
Working on the quest now but will then watch the rest of the video and ignore anything that forces me to play with others. :-) Only came back because of the solo "stuff"
@@TheComebackKids Yup! I raided all through grad school but now with career and other priorities, impossible to dedicate to that kind of lifestyle again. Super happy they introduced more solo content.
I have tried this but in dungeon finder I can only find time walking dungeons, I can't do the war within raids yet because my ilvl is too low but also I can't use raid finder for time walking. Chromie also doesn't want to talk to me I have no options there. I have no idea what's going on. I haven't completed the WW story yet. Im just finishing the second zone.
@@TheComebackKids I did. I completed the quest line up to Kill the Queen and went in and did the story mode and killed her. I got DC'd before exiting the raid because I was looking around before leaving but i still got credit for killing her so I turned in the quest but never got any of the Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crests.
Can you only do the quest once on an account, Im on an alt and can't get the quest, is it because you bypass the story mode maybe? never mind you just have to do the story around Dornogal for like 10 mins and you can pick it up, Just thought Id share for anyone who was wondering
I am 613 assa rogue with full tier set and 2200 rio, and I spend 15-20 mins to get into one 7-8 key. I suppose with low rio and / or ilvl you have no chances of getting into a M+7.
You can do this with NPC's? I didn't know that, thanks. I've had that in my log for ages because I thought I needed a raid group. 50g for doing a mythic though? I'm not being the sucker who ends up with that, sod mythics.
Started as 603 tank yesterday to push my key, +2 and +3, get city of threads +7, get to last boss with 10 min left, ended with 20 min overtime and didn't even kill it lmao, didn't have enough dps for root and people weren't using defensives well/moved poorly. Def a pug killer until people start playing around it.
Honestly i just run solo delves and get a 616 piece every week from the vault, plus any champ 603 gear from the bountiful its easy and dont have to worry about getting wiped constantly.
For the PVP gear, you didn't mention one important thing. Pick up the epic BG quest (to get some conquest to turn in for a 10th heraldry) win an epic bg, it gives you a quest called "calling all gladiators" turning that in gives you 9 free epic heraldries. Also, the Radiant Echoes you get from the delves, using 5-10 on a world soul in a full raid group will grant 400+ valorstones and 200 ish key fragments, enough for 2 more keys with about 5 min of effort. Don't run those solo.
Aren’t you way better of using both of your sparks on the highest enchanted crests, since you only have two, and you can get exactly the amount of crest needed to make two of those.
Unless you're skipping straight to 9's, then champion gear upgrades to the same level as hero gear (619) so telling people to skip 2-6 and go straight to 7 without any experience is definitely a loserbrain move. If you're 600+ from bountiful delves on an alt and you know what you're doing then sure but otherwise if you're new then just learn the dungeons at 5's.
I completed over 120 bountifuls across 14 characters, and I got 5 treasure maps. So roughly 5%. The Zekvir invasion also is around 5%. The last 2 times Zekvir invaded me he did not drop any loot. Maybe blizzard nerfed his 100% 610ilvl drop?
Pugged 6 dungs so far with my own key and cant time a single +2 shits brutal idk how people doing 7s. Adn as for the spark of omens i have completed a 2nd one since dadly you need two for a 2h weapon which would be the biggest boost to me
Disagree with the M+ part, keys atm if you aren’t doing 8’s + isn’t worth other than for IO to get 2k for Tier. delves are going to be better for gearing still and for vault rewards.
Great info........but. HUH!? I tried to solo a Delve 8 and got wasted 3 times just trying to get to the first boss. You need a minimum of 600IL to even attempt a Delve 8. That means, yes queuing up for Low level mythics to get your gear upgraded to even attempt those. Sure if you are lucky with your weekly turn in's and get Champion level gear, it becomes a major management nightmare figuring out what piece of gear are worthwhile to upgrade i.e. Champion, and others you should do slight upgrades to as you work your way up to higher IL gear. I am not complaining I think Blizzard did a great job with this expansion but I really hate making the management mistake of spending stones on gear only to find out the following week in my vault I get the same piece. Just like this week a full vault and I get a slightly useful piece of gear that was replaced in a Mythic 3. Go figure.
Hey man im not trying to sound "Elitist" Or act like im better than anyone But i just did a bountiful delve world tour on my fire mage thats 571 item level tonight In case you didn't know fire mage is the worst dps spec in the game
Gonna follow up here that, before the current iteration, I was able to solo up to T7 delves on Arcane around 580ilvl,, at 590ilvl on the current patch, I've been able to pretty easily solo T8s. Healer Brann, carry your delve pots for emergencies, and pull smart/bring cheap utility pots to cover class weakness (something like low tier invis pots can be bought for under 1g ea, water breathing pots are nice too), pull small and only fight what you need to and be liberal with your cooldowns, easier to wait 60-90s for another pull then die and repeat the delve.
What i dont agree with is, these items used for crafting to bump up the item levels.. for randomized stats.. its seems like a waste to use a bumping reagent.. when the item gets crafted with crap stats not meant for the spec's optimization
Great advice amigo, there is a lot of options right now for players to be grinding and pushing that item level this week for raiding! Lock it in amigos & much luv 2 ya 🔒
@@TheComebackKids I know, and it was all on one character. Zirak showed up in one of my solo delves and dropped the map for me. Maybe I will get my 3rd for the week tomorrow.
Did the raid an hour ago. Got one drop out of all the bosses and that one drop is something I didn’t need. Then the 610 quest reward was a one hand weapon. So now as a warlock I need to go hunt down a 590+ off hand item. The 597 quest reward was again something I didn’t need 🥲 damn you RNGeezus
Lol your luck was with me my friend. I play lock too and got 1 hand wp 603 and offhand drop 597 from tw raid 😂😂 now i still have tons of campain q to do to unlock delves level 4 and first content the owner mention 😂
Man, this guy is among the best UA-camrs to get info. I had no idea this was going on and would have missed out. As soon as I saw the video, I put the game online and did this. Got two Champion pieces and one Hero piece. Went from 587Ilvl to 591Ilvl. Give this guy a sub and thumbs up.
No problem buddy, get that ILVL UP!!!!
Thank you so much!
im only at 586 feeling so weak
i paused the video on the quest thing; went and looked and all 4 of my toons missed it; let you know what i get 😁
@@TheComebackKids FYI you have a typo in the description for this video ("evne"). Feel free to remove this comment after reading.
the problem on M+ is that if someone cannot run keys from 2-6 than they definitely will not be able to do 7+ :)
Doing +7 without progressing through 0-6 is the most stupid advice I've seen so far especially if you're pugging, you're also just going to mess other's runs, or they won't invite you at all.
It’s not too say don’t do 0-6 at all, but don’t grind those
He never said don't do them.
He wrote it tho?
I’d just do them at least 4 times per toon for the vault honestly.
grinding +7s/17s has always been the best way to grind gear
Important note for casual players:
You dont need to sweat doing all these. This video is all about how to get hero tier gear which is useless for your targeted audience that needs this guide. People have to understand that both champion and hero gears need M+9 crest to upgrade past 619. So if you are not doing M+9, your champion gear is as good as hero gear. And i assume players doing m+9 and above wont even need this guide to progress. As every piece that drop for them is already at hero track.
Tldr: if you are not doing m+9 and above, you dont need hero track gear. Champion is as good.
Please dont just get ilvl and que for 6-7+ mythics plus. People dont know the fights at a +2.
Not saying don’t do the lower item levels ever, but don’t farm just those
its alright, if you dont have 1600 or more rating the chances of you getting into a 6-7 are slim lol rating>gear when making groups
you know that mythic0 till +5 is not a big difference in difficulty 😂😂😂 seems like you should also stay at the lower keystones
People can do what they want mate
Btw i stop to play mythic+ long time ago people's raging they are so toxic they leave group etc. Now i am chiling, doing random stafs, doing delves solo content and i enjoy. One time a weak doing raid with guilds and that is it. Peoples hurry up to gear up for no reason then they burn out.
I swear blizz should implement a hidden loot chance boost. Like every dungeon you run without a drop increaes your drop chance by 30% or something like this. I should not be doing 3 dungeons and get zero items. This is ridiculous. Not to mention the last couple runs were bricked by people not knowing mechanics and im left alone to either try and solo a boss or wipe and retry. Its so annoying to not only not upgrade my key, but then in turn not get any reward for doing my key. I have to lead the groups, call out mechanics, cover for teammates not doing mechanics, rack up a massive repair bill, deal with the frustration of people not listening, deal with multiple unavoidable wipes, people not using line of sight, and a bricked key. All so i can get 10 stones and 180g, which doesn't even cover my repair bill sometimes. Just make it worth it Blizz pls!
Solid idea
I agree, they should implement a bullion system permanently for M+ and raids, like they are used to do in the season of a expansion. The game would be more fun certainly
The problem with crafting right now is the amount of gold it costs to get the materials
on the other side, gathering was probably never as lucrative (is that a word in english?) than before. I did farm for 90mins with herb/mining yesterday and made close to 100k. I recon when you can farm gold that easy, stuff is also "allowed" to be more expensive
Crafted my 619 2h wep and enchanted it t3 last night for only 160k
It’s not too expensive
@ChainSmokinWithMom only 160k? My mans thats a ton of gold 😂
@@marcelrodriguez2067 It is a lot indeed.. now that we can put a dollar value on everything because of tokens. Him upgrading his weapon cost him 12 euro (based on token 270k)
Overall good video.
I do disageee with mythic + take.
I think doing +2-+4 can be a good start to work your mythic score up. Beacuse people look at ilvl and mythic score on pugs when they invite people.
Obviosly if u have a core group by all means push +7 keys.
+4 is also a good way to farm crests for even higher ilvl upgrades on your gear.
The point was not to say never do those keys, it is to just not farm them if that’s all you are going to do as there are more efficient ways of gearing.
I tested this and wow, it does indeed work! I got a 619 dagger crafting order for my rogue, then I did the 5 timewalking dungeons and boom, got a 619 trinket from the treasure chest, then I got a 589 from the world quests and another from a bountiful delve. That's the key here it seems, get a 619 weapon then collect and open as many chests as you can.
great tips! i was very oblivious to many of them so thank you for pointing them out :D
Doing Mythic 3s and Delve T8s right now seems to be the best investment of time for output. Those two tracks will stock your vault with heroic options.
I doubt the average player can push +7s right now. The damage is incredibly high as they are equivalent to old 17s and the room for error is incredibly low, there are many mechanics that do well over 6 million damage.
Yeap , easy gear in preparation to push higher
So how do you get accepted into a pug M+7 when you dont have rating by doing the lower keys? How do you upgrade your own key if you dont do the lower key?
It’s not too say never do them, it’s saying don’t try to spam them
Good question that I can't answer. I would say you have to look in premade groups and hopefully somone is running a m+0 and then hopefully work your way up or go with a guild if you have one good luck.
How does anyone
Its almost impossible with how WoW players think about themselves. I had a 3k io and still would get completely passed on. Its the players thinking they're better than they are. Most WoW players are elitist as hell.
gotta work your way up. start by completing all +2 and timing it at +3, that will give you over 1000 rating straight off the bat
This was really informative. Thanks for the upload dude 👍
Thanks for watching
Great video.
I had no idea about half of the stuff you covered. Thanks!
Hell yeah
M+ is a waste of time if you don't have a dedicated group The reward to effort/time ratio is so bad these days. Champion gear is a joke now, even weeklies are giving hero gear. Unless you're getting m8+ badges and mythic bosses, then champion 8/8 4/8 heroic is more than fine to do 95% of the content. Then wait on easy heroic raid bosses and vaults for heroic bases. You can slowly get mythic crests too in heroic clears, and just use those on weapons/trinks. M+ scene has never been so frustrating for pugging, people can't clear low tier keys as 610ilvl. You do really need a bunch of friends/guildies you trust to do them to get your IO rolling. Delves also are amazing to get alts up now, just floods of champion gear everywhere.
Absolutely not true. There are new badges mounts coming out. These mounts are 5k badges each. So, you have to run time walkers to get the mounts, toys, and old rep tokens. Not to mention the new trnsmogs.
@@sarmstrong5549 I meant more for gear/effort , but yes if you are hunting transmog, mounts etc then their value goes up.
Thanks for telling us the order of quests to unlock this. You've succeeded where other youtubers failed.
Thanks so much
The quest isnt coming up for me do i need to finish campaign
"Just get carried"
No shit. Why didn't I think of that?
Huh
bro just do mythic raid clear, you can get max ilvl rn frfr
Man, I would love to get that Timewalking gear if I could even get into a fucking raid. "Full. Declined. Declined. Full. Delisted. Delisted."
Make your own group you will be in and out in 30 minutes
same with mythics
You are doing something wrong. I got in with 14 characters on pretty much the first try.
Done it 4 times. Even on a character I dinged a couple of hours earlier who was only about 580 ilvl. Had no issues finding an invite. It's so easy to gear upto that level now with all the "free" 580 ish pieces you get from quartermasters and warbound items you pick up.
The event is over but generally speaking, people shouldn't be rejecting you because of your item level considering it all scales down to ilvl 75 (until 11.0.5). I know it happens anyway, I apply while wearing azerite, old tier, trinkets, and other stuff that's technically BiS for timewalking, and when I get rejected I just assume the raid leader is a clown
So I just hit max level my paladin, did some weekly stuff casually then jumped into a time walking had people give me loot got those 2 caches and bought green gear in the slots I didn't have. Then upgraded those to 580, and am 586 in one night 😂 ready for normal on the alt retail gearing is definitely the best it's ever been I think the expansions gonna be quick that's why they're doing it like this
According to the roadmap nothing changed, expansion will be 2 years or so but I think blizzard realise there are no arguments to hold gear, players that take the season serious will gear up anyway, why not help the casuals more
Crafting is so confusing.
It is at first, once you crack the code though it’s easy
@@TheComebackKids idk vanilla thru Mists had pretty straightforward crafting mechanics..
This new shit.. why do normal bolts of cloth have quality rating?
Nobody wants the 1* bronze shit, either.. making these items literally unsellable.
When you get good enough for crafting, you can creat higher tier items with lower quality items which makes them worth it
I agree, this crafting system is bullshit. Why does it look like as the auction house? Then you need those items that you can buy from AH but thise have different tiers, then you have these order types. This whole system is too advanced, for what? Why not make this easier?
@@mnrqt The UI is horrible. Open and closing windows so you can see what you need then close it then open AH then close it and open crafting then open bags, then bank then AH... it's horrible
This crafting is out of hand, it's the most confusing and unsatisfying way to attain gear. The 'Social Engagement' aspect of it is talking to some copy paste lines from a gold farmer.
Yeah. I refuse to craft any gear. It is basically "pay 5 EUR to skip content, and be able to play the game less".
great info and very well presented! one question: why is the quest "our chance to strike" not available to my toon?
Because you gotten far enough in the campaign?
@@TheComebackKids no i did the campaign. I managed to unlock it with a quest line in the city of threads!
Do you need to do bountiful delves to possibly acquire a "Delvers Bounty"???
I don’t think so
Great video, glad I stumbled across your channel. Keep up the good work.
Thanks so much
I've been following since Season of Discovery and I'm so glad that you continue to make content for War Within. These are some great tips plus it gives me a video to share when people ask "how did you get your ilvl so quickly?"
Let’s goooooo thank you bro
I got a 613 cloak from the 5 timewalking quest because it was 6/8 upgraded on receiving it via RNG. It was actually higher ilvl than the 610 item I got from the Illidan kill.
Nice!
Got a hero piece from my vault (616 from tier 8 delves) & another (610) from the weekly black temple raid quest. As much as I like the crafting gear, you're unable to upgrade it but it can be a huge upgrade for a piece you just can't get to drop, and the gold cost for the mats can be tough to swallow unless gold isn't a problem. Currently at 606 ilvl mostly thanks to tier 8 bountiful delves!
If you rework the crafted item, you can upgrade the item level. I did that the other night.
Thank you for this video, actual useful information, legend 🤙
Thanks man
I want to play and not worry about how I get items or what professions I need and where I can get materials for them, I just want to do PvP and think about which skills and logic make sense to defeat the opponent if I do But first I have to do PvE for 2 days or more and then realize that it has no balance, I just don't feel like it anymore. You are the best and helpfull content for WoW player , thanks !.
What do you mean, you don’t need to play pve to pvp
Raiderio is everything. Its not about the loot. That score will get you into higher m plus later on. And the gear is heroic or mythic quality and can be upgraded. The currentcy to upgrade mythic comes from level 8 delves or mythic plus 4. m plus in my opinion is not a waste of time.
Can you do Story mode Raid with a couple of buddies? or does it have to be solo
Good question I haven’t tried grouping for it yet, but I think you can
Im just chilling in dreamsurge stuff fully dressed in greens and blues, doing bosses and quests 😅👍 no time for sweaty gear boy stuff 😂😂
1 thing he didnt mention was in order to get the quest you have to have completed the campaign the entire campaign even the 5 part you cant skip at the end.
i love you bro, subbed
Thanks so much hope you enjoy the content
Great advice, starting this now on my main and many many alts lol
Let’s goooo
My man,sub to you for this.
sry nuub questions, quest for time walking weekly or just one time?
Any time timewalking is up you will get a quest for it
@@TheComebackKids thanks
Thanks for the info!
What addon shows the ilvl on the piece of gear in the character screen at a glance?
Pawn?
have they changed this? just done the raid and got nothing?
I got my chest piece hero level from time walking and then I converted to a tier piece now I have two pieces of tier gear. Got upgrade piece in raid finder this week i went from 570-583 ilvl half my gear is the honor pvp gear so it's hopefully i can keep upgrading gear i need
Is the duskwoven set of gloves and boots worth getting crafted?
Yes
Can we repeat time walk raid? Cuz i didnt looted anything from bosses.
Good question!
One on each character, that’s it
Wat gearscire is adviced for +7?
610 maybe
Needed this video as a new player
the delves, don't you need to have a coffer key in order to do them over and over? or can you do the T8 delves, w/o a coffer key, and still get a map?
You can do them without key to get a map
You can do them with out a key to get a map yes but it's still very rng I think I probably have run every delve like 3 times and had 2 maps drop so good luck. To me at least it's not worth running a bountiful delve without a key and a map so you can get two pieces of gear over just one and bountiful delves I think give you the higher gear score also.
what is the addon that says on ur screen "craft value"?
Craftsim
I got Ashes of Al'ar mount as well from the black temple quest. It gave me 2 items.
Hell yeah
solo delves can also be extremely boring and slow sometimes?
Specially as rogue or healer in my xp.
Does anyone know if those delve treasure maps can be used on a t8 regular delve or need to be a bountiful? Thanks
Can do on regular
Delver's Bounty does not guarantee a Heroic Piece, you can get just xmog out of that chest also.
This is so helpful man as soon as I get off of work I’m get shit done and I joined the discord ohhh and I subed and gave you a 👍 😂😂😂😂😂😊 thanks four the info man
Hell yeah
Working on the quest now but will then watch the rest of the video and ignore anything that forces me to play with others. :-) Only came back because of the solo "stuff"
Well hey if that’s how you want to play I hope you enjoy it
@@TheComebackKids Yup! I raided all through grad school but now with career and other priorities, impossible to dedicate to that kind of lifestyle again. Super happy they introduced more solo content.
The thing I hate most is when you don't time your key, AND you don't get any loot; it hurts every time..
I have tried this but in dungeon finder I can only find time walking dungeons, I can't do the war within raids yet because my ilvl is too low but also I can't use raid finder for time walking. Chromie also doesn't want to talk to me I have no options there. I have no idea what's going on. I haven't completed the WW story yet. Im just finishing the second zone.
First things first finish the campaign
Awesome video and guide mate. Just earn my sub:)
Concise and informative video, nicely done. Don’t listen to all the negative comments
Thanks so much
I did Kill the Queen but I didn't get any Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crests?
Did you have the quest?
@@TheComebackKids I did. I completed the quest line up to Kill the Queen and went in and did the story mode and killed her. I got DC'd before exiting the raid because I was looking around before leaving but i still got credit for killing her so I turned in the quest but never got any of the Enchanted Runed Harbinger Crests.
Can you only do the quest once on an account, Im on an alt and can't get the quest, is it because you bypass the story mode maybe? never mind you just have to do the story around Dornogal for like 10 mins and you can pick it up, Just thought Id share for anyone who was wondering
Bro your ui buttons are so big it reminds me of those comically big remote controls for tvs for your grandma
lol
I got packed with my timerunning raid trinket with stupid use of getting extra health I couldn't do anything with it as a dps
I am 613 assa rogue with full tier set and 2200 rio, and I spend 15-20 mins to get into one 7-8 key. I suppose with low rio and / or ilvl you have no chances of getting into a M+7.
I cant place a Crafting order? How did you do that?
There is a NPC to do crafting orders in dornagal
@@TheComebackKids Damn i cant find NPC.
You can do this with NPC's? I didn't know that, thanks. I've had that in my log for ages because I thought I needed a raid group. 50g for doing a mythic though? I'm not being the sucker who ends up with that, sod mythics.
Started as 603 tank yesterday to push my key, +2 and +3, get city of threads +7, get to last boss with 10 min left, ended with 20 min overtime and didn't even kill it lmao, didn't have enough dps for root and people weren't using defensives well/moved poorly. Def a pug killer until people start playing around it.
you dont have to kill the root you can just stun it and your free
@@havocdemon89 no, it's the other spider dung, the one with moving balls and spy finding, you cant cc those to get out
I found Webster. There was no quest. I also do not see story mode for that raid either
Make sure you do the campaign quest in order for that to unlock
Honestly i just run solo delves and get a 616 piece every week from the vault, plus any champ 603 gear from the bountiful its easy and dont have to worry about getting wiped constantly.
Appreciate you and the great info. I don't see Webster to start the quest chain. Something I am missing?
Hmm did you do the campaign?
You need to be at 1/9 in the campaign, just some quests and you should get to that point in less than and hours, even less, i don't remember
Run 4 t8 delves with all toons boost progression enough per week I guess for like 4 weeks or Something
Gonna try the pvp gear thingy to replace a 580 chest I have
I used a warband slot for my main, and got every worlddrop recipe for less than 50,000 gold versus buying them all on my realm for 1 mil
Hell yeah
I don't get the crest transfer thing? Is it a big?
It will be
@@TheComebackKids bug, sorry. So you transfer something to get better crests?
For the PVP gear, you didn't mention one important thing. Pick up the epic BG quest (to get some conquest to turn in for a 10th heraldry) win an epic bg, it gives you a quest called "calling all gladiators" turning that in gives you 9 free epic heraldries. Also, the Radiant Echoes you get from the delves, using 5-10 on a world soul in a full raid group will grant 400+ valorstones and 200 ish key fragments, enough for 2 more keys with about 5 min of effort. Don't run those solo.
Good point
How about a couple hours to play a week? What is most efficient if I can only do one thing?
Delves 100%
Aren’t you way better of using both of your sparks on the highest enchanted crests, since you only have two, and you can get exactly the amount of crest needed to make two of those.
Wait... doing the raid ticks off the 5 timewalking dungeons quest as well? shit ive been wasting so much time
Yeah it does lol
i DON'T SEE THE SPIDER!?? Is there a prerequisite quest?
Yes the campaign quest
@@TheComebackKids Thanks!!!
Unless you're skipping straight to 9's, then champion gear upgrades to the same level as hero gear (619) so telling people to skip 2-6 and go straight to 7 without any experience is definitely a loserbrain move. If you're 600+ from bountiful delves on an alt and you know what you're doing then sure but otherwise if you're new then just learn the dungeons at 5's.
Even after listening to the video i still don't get the crafting system, such a weird concept to me, anyway, thanks for the video as always :)
Blizzard created it to confuse people. The designers should never be allowed near a computer again.
Mythic 7 is no joke
It hasn’t been too bad
@@TheComebackKidswhere my carry at? 😂
@@TheComebackKids yeah again says a youtuber who plays constantly
And has connections. try pugging m+ knowing nobody.
Don’t play that much
Why run m+ if delves are faster and give higher item level gear?
That’s why you need to run the higher mythic keys otherwise it’s not
“Only got two treasure maps” bro I’ve got 0 in 15 +8s
Ouchhh
Got 2 in around 20+ t8 delves and they awarded the same ring (which as you know can't be stacked in Wow).
0 maps in 28 bountiful t8s
I completed over 120 bountifuls across 14 characters, and I got 5 treasure maps. So roughly 5%.
The Zekvir invasion also is around 5%. The last 2 times Zekvir invaded me he did not drop any loot. Maybe blizzard nerfed his 100% 610ilvl drop?
@@txdmsk I also got invaded by zekvir, no loot
Pugged 6 dungs so far with my own key and cant time a single +2 shits brutal idk how people doing 7s. Adn as for the spark of omens i have completed a 2nd one since dadly you need two for a 2h weapon which would be the biggest boost to me
new sub thank you
Thank you
Thank you for watching!
i feel like mythic + is really bad, i did 2 lvl 8 bountiful delves and my vault item is going to be 616 which is sick
Disagree with the M+ part, keys atm if you aren’t doing 8’s + isn’t worth other than for IO to get 2k for Tier. delves are going to be better for gearing still and for vault rewards.
All I got was the worst trinket from BT, the agi and on use hp increase one, as my reward from the 610 chest
ngl, I thought the TW raid was gonna be a bust after doing the TW dungeons (and their oh-so-spectacular 552 ilvl gear).
Great info........but.
HUH!? I tried to solo a Delve 8 and got wasted 3 times just trying to get to the first boss. You need a minimum of 600IL to even attempt a Delve 8. That means, yes queuing up for Low level mythics to get your gear upgraded to even attempt those. Sure if you are lucky with your weekly turn in's and get Champion level gear, it becomes a major management nightmare figuring out what piece of gear are worthwhile to upgrade i.e. Champion, and others you should do slight upgrades to as you work your way up to higher IL gear.
I am not complaining I think Blizzard did a great job with this expansion but I really hate making the management mistake of spending stones on gear only to find out the following week in my vault I get the same piece. Just like this week a full vault and I get a slightly useful piece of gear that was replaced in a Mythic 3. Go figure.
Hey man im not trying to sound "Elitist" Or act like im better than anyone
But i just did a bountiful delve world tour on my fire mage thats 571 item level tonight
In case you didn't know fire mage is the worst dps spec in the game
@@TheComebackKidsI forget whose channel it was, but I was watching someone on UA-cam that did a +8 with like 576 ilvl moonkin in 15 minutes
Gonna follow up here that, before the current iteration, I was able to solo up to T7 delves on Arcane around 580ilvl,, at 590ilvl on the current patch, I've been able to pretty easily solo T8s. Healer Brann, carry your delve pots for emergencies, and pull smart/bring cheap utility pots to cover class weakness (something like low tier invis pots can be bought for under 1g ea, water breathing pots are nice too), pull small and only fight what you need to and be liberal with your cooldowns, easier to wait 60-90s for another pull then die and repeat the delve.
Great video.
Thanks so much!
What a video! Got 3 600+ items in an hour 🎉
Let’s gooooo
You need to be at least 1/5 in the campaign chapter quests to talk to Webster
Thank you was just trying to figure out why that dude isn't there for me
@@MrLangz0r did you do the quests where the fleet comes in and you setup your faction hall?
@@MrDoctorDave I found out that I already had the quest 😅
@MrLangz0r ouch
I’m 2/5 and he’s not there…
What i dont agree with is, these items used for crafting to bump up the item levels.. for randomized stats.. its seems like a waste to use a bumping reagent.. when the item gets crafted with crap stats not meant for the spec's optimization
Never heard of a missive that lets you pick the stats huh.
Great advice amigo, there is a lot of options right now for players to be grinding and pushing that item level this week for raiding! Lock it in amigos & much luv 2 ya 🔒
I just got my second delvers map today for the week. That's 5 total for me.
That’s actually super hype
@@TheComebackKids
I know, and it was all on one character. Zirak showed up in one of my solo delves and dropped the map for me.
Maybe I will get my 3rd for the week tomorrow.
@Roozhy hell yeah
I set my io score to a certain point when i host keys
Did the raid an hour ago. Got one drop out of all the bosses and that one drop is something I didn’t need. Then the 610 quest reward was a one hand weapon. So now as a warlock I need to go hunt down a 590+ off hand item. The 597 quest reward was again something I didn’t need 🥲 damn you RNGeezus
Ouch
My fury warrior has awful luck , I got on the frost dk everything drops
Lol your luck was with me my friend. I play lock too and got 1 hand wp 603 and offhand drop 597 from tw raid 😂😂 now i still have tons of campain q to do to unlock delves level 4 and first content the owner mention 😂
Thanks a lot.
Thanks for watching