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This was by far my favorite episode this season. The writing was so good. "No God should have dominion over death who has so little appreciation for life."
Hela as Loki. The punch in the face mirrors Loki's first encounters the TVA. Trying to use her power also mirrors Loki trying to use his in the TVA. Young Hela also looks like young Sylvie in her flashback. This was awesome.
Hela had both Thor's and Loki's character arcs. Banished to Midgard with no control of her weapon and now mortal, while also getting into the character of who she is and what does she plan to do after taking out Odin, and then going on to conquering the other worlds, becoming the "Queen of Space"
I think the Ten Rings is a magnificent and versatile weapon in MCU, i really love how it could change the function whatever the owners want. 10/10 for this episode. The fight choreo also dope as well for an animation features.
And Director of the movie confirmed Shang chi was Thor and Hulk level. But we have better, the producer affirmed that it could go either way in a fight between Shang chi vs Thor/Hulk.
Hela not explicitly dying in Ragnarok and the fact that she even bothered to voice this epidode make me hopeful that she'll return to the MCU in live action. I'd kill to see Blanchet and Leung paired together in a film. Imagine the level of acting that would be on display with those two.
What if is underrated I genuinely love this show and am grateful for a second season, i hope we get a third one, this shows premise is forever renewable, and they have delivered BIGTIME this season, weakest episode i think was the nebula one
I'm very confused about that tbh. Thanos was defo handled too quickly but the rest of the episode was tight. The second episode and third felt the weakest to me. The Star lord one was alright but I can't even remember the other one, it just felt kinda basic lol. @@jager3090
that was my favourite personally. my least favourite was the nebula one but apart from that, every other episode has been at least an 8/10 for me@@jager3090
Entertaining episode. Wish they bring back Hela in the MCU. Glad they fleshed Hela more. Want to know what happened to Captain Carter and Kahhori…Greg Segway into his clothing store haha. The joking banter haha keep it up you guys!
Saying it’s all Odin’s fault is an exaggeration, Loki’s inferiority is in fact cuz of his bloodline compared to the rest of the family but he chooses to attack Midgard, same as Thor who’s acting reckless on his own term initially, every one of these characters have flaws in their own ways, saying all his fault is just a lazy explanation
This season is fire. S1 felt like they told a variation of the stories we know. This season feel like them combining movies and themes to really explore the universe
Which even that was the case in season that is so what WHAT IF comics does. Hell the multiverse is iver a million variations of reality even as small as same story different hair color.
@@hamhockbeans exactly sometimes I dont know why people complain about that when its pretty much how What If is. And barely any of the episodes even were that in season 1 a lot were vastly different.
In one universe Loki became the god of stories and in another Hela became the godess that united the 9 realms. Thor be slackin all he's got is a fancy lighting bolt.
The writers of this entire season have done an absolutely amazing job! Please continue great writing in the MCU. Animations and acting is also extremely top tier in this season.
I loved that whole slow motion of the fight scene between Hela and Jiayi as well as Hela and Odin as it mirrored Jiayi-Wenwu and Shang-Chi-Wenwu from Shang-Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings.
These episodes r what true fans really wanted, seeing these mcu worlds we’ve built up connect and collide in amazing ways, making amazing stories rather than rushing to continue to separate further apart
Yeah... live action MCU should take notes. Yes, we want new and refreshing stories, but that interconnected universe that feels seamless is undefeated.
I never thought shang chi's training montage was rushed. Everything they did for that scene makes sense. His training growing up was under his fathers lessons and he mastered that fighting style that his father had to offer. The mothers fighting style which he learned in that scene had to be closely related to his fathers so i thought it would not take a lot of time to learn. They literally walked him through a few adjustments and some lessons that his mother would have taught him and thusly dealing with his childhood trauma to master his mothers fighting style as well. At least thats what i took from those scenes in shang chi.
So in this version, Hela was given the same treatment Thor got in the first movie, but instead of landing in New Mexico… she landed in China. Guess Odin didn’t know about the ancient relics known as the 10 Rings. Man, Shang-Chi was a badass movie. And I love Hela’s development here in this What If. This season is definitely better than the first one.
I know some people were annoyed at the “mcu humor” of this episode but it’s pretty accurate to how hela acted in ragnarok and considering how accurate they were in having Thor act serious during pre-ragnarok time periods I’d say it was a deliberate creative choice to write her like that
Plus it makes her more endearing and human to the audience which makes it easier to fit her redemption arc into a single episode while making it believeable
Halfway through the episode and the way they combined Ragnarök and the first Thor film with the beginning of Thor's banishment with Hela to Midgard as he puts a curse on Hela's crown instead of Thor's just crazy. Also the stopping of Thor's hammer with Odin instead of Hela was a nice mirroring of Thor: Ragnarök happening at the Bifrost was a nice moment. Loving the incorporation of Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings storyline as well with Hela being trained in the art of Tai Chi.
Personally felt like Hela's change of heart was a bit too abrupt, but I'm glad it was both Wenwu and Jiayi who helped her change. Also feel like this should've aired before the Captain Carter episode, since the last two episodes were building up to the finale and this one didn't (imagine Galadriel Hela in the finale, would've been OP lol)
Hela screaming as she can't pickup the crown is the same scream as Thor with him not able to lift his hammer in first Thor film at the Shield base in Puente Antigua.
I really enjoyed this episode quite a bit! It mixes completely different sides of the MCU together perfectly, and a lot of really cool stuff came out of this episode. My highlights of this episode were the action and especially the final fight because that was really cool and well done! Props to the animators, and although not my favorite episode of the season, I still thought I was really good! 8/10!
This felt like they did the Loki Show premise, with Hela. We already have an attachment to her character and her arc in the MCU, many of us ALREADY love her to death (pun intended), so they took a chance at a redemption arc and it REALLY paid off i friggin loved this episode and really love this version of Hela as well haha
The great thing about this is that now that the multiverse is a thing, they could make full length movies out of any of these "What If?" episodes. Frankly it would be a refreshing take and I think would get people more interested in the MCU again after some of their lesser loved works of late.
The goddess of death is back.😎 The truth is, the chapter made me feel sorry for Hela and knowing that she died in the main line of the MCU, because she really wasn't evil, Odin was to blame for all of that ambition she had.🥺 True, that final fight with the Mandarin ufff was great.😎
Hela is so much like Loki here. Also when Jia Yi keeps asking the reasons behind her aims to find her deepest desire, it reminds me of Sylvie kept asking Loki about why he wanted to save the TVA. But also it's great to see how Marvel humanize these gods while making them more powerful at the same time
I didn't realize you guys were so down on season one until watching these season two reactions. I thought season one was very good and I thought that it was generally looked at in a positive light. Hearing you guys be so down on it is surprising.
Hela literally went from the goddess of death to the goddess of life. Cate Blanchett coming back as Hela and giving her more character development was everything. Also come to think she ascended to higher form of cosmic being like Loki realizing her Glorious Purpose.
This honestly has to be my favorite of the season. Just like you both said, every episode somehow gives me the feeling of “I need to see a feature length film of this” but this one specifically ends where I desperately need a full movie continuation
I really enjoyed this episode, I really liked and found the whole episode to be really entertaining and fun. I really liked this episode’s story, I found it to be really interesting and entertaining. I really enjoyed the story, the characters, the score, the cinematography and the animation. It was great to get to learn more and see more about Hela, her background and her goals throughout this episode. Especially with the scene where Odin initially gave Hela her crown and when Hela talked about what she really wanted after conquering the Nine Relms. I loved getting to see Hela interact with the Ten Rings and Ta Lo, it was really fun to get to see how she would try to adapt to these new environments. And these were a combination of characters and places that I never thought we would ever get to see in the MCU. And I absolutely loved the fight between Hela and Wenwu against Odin. This fight was so awesome, getting to see the dynamics of powers between these three as they fought was amazing. And the choreography for the fight was really great, getting to see how each of them would use their powers and abilities to their fullest while using different techniques to try and take out the other was amazing. I loved getting to see their three different styles of fighting clashing. I also loved getting to see more of Wenwu in action, I loved getting to watch his fighting style throughout the Shang-Chi movie so it was really great to get to see even more of it in this episode. And on top of that it was also super cool to actually see Odin in action. In the MCU we never really got to see him in action because he had already long given up his warriors ways, but in this episode he had just now decided to give up that life style so he was still primed for a fight so we actually got to see how Odin would have fought in battle. And it was just so cool, I loved how much of a tank he felt like in this fight and with his combination of broad and brutal yet fast attacks his fighting style was able to feel similar to Thor’s without it feeling like it was just a copy and paste of Thor’s move set. Also after Hela became good, became worthy to have her crown and she dawned the white attire I couldn’t help but be reminded of another Cate Blanchett character that was good and wore white, Galadriel from Lord of the Rings. I just had such a fun time watching this episode I cannot wait to see how the rest of the episodes in this new season will turn out. I cannot wait for tomorrow’s episode! I hope that it is as good if not better than this one and that this season is able to keep up this episode’s style of quality, writing, and storytelling.
I LOVED THIS EPISODE SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!! I liked Hela in Thor Ragnarok I thought She was a Good Villain but I never liked Her as much as Everybody else. But I loved what They Did with Her in This Episode! Seeing Her go through The Character Arc Thor went through in The First Movie was so Great! And then having Wenwu and all of The Shang-Chi connections was just So Awesome! This Season has Been absolutely Fantastic so far! I'M SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!!!!!!
I love the running gag of almost EVERY episode being like “haha hey wanna watch Thanos lose?” Whether it be him dying in one hit, or just being a good person and stop fighting and joining the hood guys
That session exploring Hela's motivations reminded me of the first conversation with Mobius in Loki: "So you become 'Loki: King of Space,' then what?..."
Your commentary at the end was hilarious! It is kind of funny that right after the Kahhori episode which was the antithesis of the White Savior trope, they had this episode which doubled down on it, literally giving her white armor at the end. 😅
Awesome episode. When I heard this was one of the episode concepts (as far back as reports from Comic Con in 2021 I believe) I was intrigued to see what they did with the episode because of my love of mythology and Asian stuff, and it didn't disappoint. Definitely another good episode in an already good season of television. From looking at the credits, it looks like Cate Blanchett and Idris Elba are the only returning cast members for their roles and everyone else is different for this episode, though I agree Odin does sound somewhat similar to Anthony Hopkins even though it's not actually him. Also, Hela doesn't just "know Mandarin", Asgardians (and I believe all the gods and mythological figures in Marvel) are able to understand and speak every language as they have something called Allspeak (fitting name for an ability to speak all languages).
I think one pf the reasons this look so good is partly due to expectations. All of us werent expecting much. I was looking forward to it because i like how new and different this kind of storytelling for the MCU was in the first season, but i never thought it would be this good. It rivals some of the best animations EVER (Not just Marvel or DC)... Im talking Incredible, Toy Story, Batman Animated series, Soul....
Damn alternate versions of Thor's siblings are something else they became so powerful force first evil loki to loki the life force for yggdrasil, hela probably kill or imprison thanos and prevented major chaos in future it goes to show how terrible is Odin
Silly names ive come up with so far for each focused character- • Supernova Nebula & The Gaurdians of Xandar • Celestial Starlord & The 88' Avengers • Hela: The Goddess Of Life
The fact we are getting what if stories about villains as main characters now just shows how much of level up this season is from the previous one, and obviously the animation and the writing has improved too
This was awesome! Odin has deserved a major ass kicking for centuries haha. And it was such a cool mix of Thor and Loki's relationships with Odin too. I do really wish we had gotten more of Hela and Loki banter in Ragnarok. Such a missed opportunity, they’re both so sassy. They could've really annoyed Thor as a combo lol
I adored this episode. Cate Blanchett is SO FRICKIN GOOD!!! Loved her in Ragnarok and loved this redemption/heroic arc for the Hela. This was awesome. One of my faves of the season.
This season of what if kinda felt like a highly produced previs. I can see writer and director coming up to marvel with it and telling them so we had this idea. It really feel like the first mcu phase where a movie is a movie on it's own. The current mcu phase is all over the place, most of us, i think, still watch mcu movie to see where it goes but compare to previous movie I don't think I'll watch Quantumania or the marvels on it's own. I still got the feeling that after endgame some people at marvel try too hard to come up with a story that could rival the infinity arc forgetting that a movie need to be good without the threat in the shadow that an avengers movie will solved later on. This make me think I would love to see more of marvel on a big screen in a different way. Maybe between the success of the spiderverse and what if we might see an animated movie who doesn't need to be a part of the mcu but it could be cool to see what they could come up with.
So, it's Thor 1, Shang-Chi, and Loki S2 woven into one linear story, showcasing an underused character and giving them an emotional growth arch that was also easy to be drawn into.
Watching this review, it occurred to me that so many of the plots from Asgard in the MCU are basically, "Variations on Odin's mistakes." He's like the poster child for toxic parenting.
I love that Hela’s condition for using her godly tool is DIFFERENT from Thors. It’s not that she needs to be ‘worthy’, no Odin says ‘Should she know mercy’ for her condition
I cannot believe they got Cate Blanchett and Idris Elba back to do vo work, amazing!!!! And it's getting press from their Twitter and IG accounts, but I haven't seen this show promoted anywhere else.
So we called ultron from last season Infinity Ultron… what are we going to call this Hela? My vote is for Heavena ☺️ This was such a cool episode. I mean getting a good Hela, with her crown, Odins spear, and Ta Lo spiritual power is so freaking cool who comes up with this stuff?!
Well, Odin is assumably cast out when Hela takes the throne and liberates the Nine Realms so; Thor is potentially still born but he would likely not be a Prince of Asgard AND Mjolnir was destroyed so he wouldn't be the Thor we knew. If Odin is not on the thrown anymore and the Nine Realms are Liberated, the war with the frost giants wouldn't have happened and Loki would not have been adopted - similar to Season One's "What If...? Thor was a single child."
Thor would likely be born (Hela even says in the episode that Odin and Frigga, Thor's mom, are together) but I doubt they would adopt Loki. So yes, they would likely exist, but would be different from the versions of them that we know.
Thor and Loki would be probably still exist in this universe but in a different circumstances. Instead of them I'm more curious about Shang Chi, he would probably never existed in this universe since Wenwu falling to Hela instead of Shang Chi's mom
For all the benefits this episode gave hela, I think it gave some to wenwu aswel. This is our look at a wenwu before he lost his wife and shows just how much that loss effected him a lot more then the family flashbacks did imo
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mentions white savior and hel literally in all white.
This was by far my favorite episode this season. The writing was so good.
"No God should have dominion over death who has so little appreciation for life."
So powerful. Definitely my most favourite episode so far!
Same I really enjoyed it I like when characters actually get a chance to be better ❤
I wanna see a gorr the god butcher ep now
100%...
Not to mention, it was badass as hell.
@@thegentlegiant9459what if Gorr got screen time?
Love that Wenwu being attracted to women who can kick his ass is a trait that carried over from live action 😂
Wenwu has a type, haha. For whatever reason that is what tickled me the most about this episode.
In case you’re wondering, it’s actually Bugs Bunny (Jeff Bergman) that’s voicing Odin in this.
Damn, he really embodies the voice so well!
That's what you called range
Wooooooooow
Oh god
That is superb imitation.
Well, technically, Cate Blanchett’s Hela is also Galadriel… Hela just unlocked her galadriel power so she become shiny
Instead of a dark lord, YOU SHALL HAVE A QUEEEEEEEN!!!!
@@ArcaJ ☠️☠️ this comment goes hard 🤣🤣
@@ArcaJ Love this!
Shiny Hela, I've been waiting for years to see this Pokémon!
"Hela the White"
Hela as Loki. The punch in the face mirrors Loki's first encounters the TVA. Trying to use her power also mirrors Loki trying to use his in the TVA. Young Hela also looks like young Sylvie in her flashback. This was awesome.
Thor 1 erasure ;(
@@wittywasnteverwitty7370 it's a "What if?" episode. Nothing has been erased. Even if it became canon it's still multiverse.
Hela had both Thor's and Loki's character arcs. Banished to Midgard with no control of her weapon and now mortal, while also getting into the character of who she is and what does she plan to do after taking out Odin, and then going on to conquering the other worlds, becoming the "Queen of Space"
@@gajaan316 very true
Meanwhile, Loki who remains “Wait, I have a sister?”
Do you want to see THIS version of Hela return?!
Yes
yes for sure she was amazing another banger episode
Hell yes! I can’t believe they did that 🤯🤯🤯🔥🔥🔥
Yes
Yeah bro
I think the Ten Rings is a magnificent and versatile weapon in MCU, i really love how it could change the function whatever the owners want. 10/10 for this episode. The fight choreo also dope as well for an animation features.
The ten rings are so simple but extremely versatile it's brilliant
And Director of the movie confirmed Shang chi was Thor and Hulk level.
But we have better, the producer affirmed that it could go either way in a fight between Shang chi vs Thor/Hulk.
@@snowshock8958 Namor is at the same level as well if I'm not mistaken
@@InueShizaki yeah Coogler stated that Namor is as strong as Thor and stronger in the water. Potentially beat Hulk.
@@snowshock8958 that's interesting
I love how you both were like White Savior Hela as a joke but at the end that was literally what she was
I'm glad i aint the only one who noticed lol
Fun episode but couldn’t stop laughing when I realized she was White Savior Hela
That was the irony 😅
Man, I've missed Wenwu. What a great antagonist. This was a fun one!
Wenwu really reminds me of Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat for some reason 😂. His face and voice seems almost the same!
@@fuzzyotterpaws4395 I can see it yeah
I wanted to see the actual mandarin fight iron man.
Hela not explicitly dying in Ragnarok and the fact that she even bothered to voice this epidode make me hopeful that she'll return to the MCU in live action. I'd kill to see Blanchet and Leung paired together in a film. Imagine the level of acting that would be on display with those two.
What if is underrated
I genuinely love this show and am grateful for a second season, i hope we get a third one, this shows premise is forever renewable, and they have delivered BIGTIME this season, weakest episode i think was the nebula one
There are rumors that the Eternals will appear in season 3
That's interesting
I believe they have said they'll be doing a Season 3, so we'll probably see it in the next couple years.
I agree with you except I think the Tony on Sakaar episode is the weakest so far.I was quite bored through most parts of it.
I'm very confused about that tbh. Thanos was defo handled too quickly but the rest of the episode was tight. The second episode and third felt the weakest to me. The Star lord one was alright but I can't even remember the other one, it just felt kinda basic lol. @@jager3090
that was my favourite personally. my least favourite was the nebula one but apart from that, every other episode has been at least an 8/10 for me@@jager3090
Imagine if this duo of wenwu and hela existed during infinity war
there wouldn't be Infinity War cuz they'd already beaten Thanos
Entertaining episode. Wish they bring back Hela in the MCU. Glad they fleshed Hela more. Want to know what happened to Captain Carter and Kahhori…Greg Segway into his clothing store haha. The joking banter haha keep it up you guys!
Agreed they could make her draw power from Hel instead of Asgard and that would line with the comics
Same here I miss Hala. I hope this version of her comes back so I can see Hala and The Mandarin fight Thanos.
But hela's actress is too expensive. 🤣
Its funny how none of the siblings are actually evil and their current actions are all of Odin's fault.
I believe odin started out with good intensions but was corrupted by power to control everything.
Well he didn't knew how to raise child and be king , but when Frigga came and then Thor everything changed a little bit
Saying it’s all Odin’s fault is an exaggeration, Loki’s inferiority is in fact cuz of his bloodline compared to the rest of the family but he chooses to attack Midgard, same as Thor who’s acting reckless on his own term initially, every one of these characters have flaws in their own ways, saying all his fault is just a lazy explanation
This season is fire. S1 felt like they told a variation of the stories we know. This season feel like them combining movies and themes to really explore the universe
Yeah instead of same story different characters its new story with characters stories altered.
Which even that was the case in season that is so what WHAT IF comics does. Hell the multiverse is iver a million variations of reality even as small as same story different hair color.
@@hamhockbeans exactly sometimes I dont know why people complain about that when its pretty much how What If is. And barely any of the episodes even were that in season 1 a lot were vastly different.
It's awesome how we got awesome portrayals or adaptations of Loki and Hela this year
Yeah wish Thor will back too
In one universe Loki became the god of stories and in another Hela became the godess that united the 9 realms. Thor be slackin all he's got is a fancy lighting bolt.
This Hela really feels like a sibling of Thor and Loki, if that makes sense. Like, the characterization is just so good 👏
i never fully realized how evil odin actually is
Well according to some people, apparently he was a "Jerk" in the Norse Myth to put it lightly.
Odin was a terrible father to all 3, and since this takes place after Odin's conquest, he's still hasn't learnt from his mistakes.
Odin is to blame for everything, the destruction of Asgard was his fault
@@TheScarletKing01not really due to the destruction of asgard was beacuse of ragnarök so you can't really blame odein for that
@@HELLO-15GRagnarok happed because of what happened before that. So yes Odin is to fault
The writers of this entire season have done an absolutely amazing job! Please continue great writing in the MCU. Animations and acting is also extremely top tier in this season.
The version of Hela towards the end of that What If episode is now the Goddess of Life. My new favorite version of Hela now. :)
I loved that whole slow motion of the fight scene between Hela and Jiayi as well as Hela and Odin as it mirrored Jiayi-Wenwu and Shang-Chi-Wenwu from Shang-Chi and The Legend of the Ten Rings.
Also had a bit of the trinity vs thanos
These episodes r what true fans really wanted, seeing these mcu worlds we’ve built up connect and collide in amazing ways, making amazing stories rather than rushing to continue to separate further apart
Yeah... live action MCU should take notes. Yes, we want new and refreshing stories, but that interconnected universe that feels seamless is undefeated.
Honestly has some of the best dynamics they’ve conceived.
Yep, really wish we could see more Wenwu and Hela 😢
I never thought shang chi's training montage was rushed. Everything they did for that scene makes sense. His training growing up was under his fathers lessons and he mastered that fighting style that his father had to offer. The mothers fighting style which he learned in that scene had to be closely related to his fathers so i thought it would not take a lot of time to learn. They literally walked him through a few adjustments and some lessons that his mother would have taught him and thusly dealing with his childhood trauma to master his mothers fighting style as well. At least thats what i took from those scenes in shang chi.
The world of Shang chi is so fascinating and bringing in Hela of all characters to explore that dynamic was brilliant
This episode was a great What If Story! Seeing Hela interact with Wenwu was so great! 👍
So in this version, Hela was given the same treatment Thor got in the first movie, but instead of landing in New Mexico… she landed in China. Guess Odin didn’t know about the ancient relics known as the 10 Rings.
Man, Shang-Chi was a badass movie. And I love Hela’s development here in this What If. This season is definitely better than the first one.
I know some people were annoyed at the “mcu humor” of this episode but it’s pretty accurate to how hela acted in ragnarok and considering how accurate they were in having Thor act serious during pre-ragnarok time periods I’d say it was a deliberate creative choice to write her like that
That’s what I thought, too. There was always a lot of humor from Thor, Loki and Hela, so it made sense to keep her funny and sarcastic.
Plus it makes her more endearing and human to the audience which makes it easier to fit her redemption arc into a single episode while making it believeable
i thought helas dialogue in this was SUPER accurate
@@rosyellis14 It is tho, and that's what makes her interesting especially when she lost her power
@@Khn_2102 either im not reading your comment correctly or you didn't read my comment correctly because i was agreeing with them
This was definitely the best episode so far!
Love the chemistry between Weng Wu and Hela! I never thought I needed this!
Man I love this episode!!!! I'm glad we returned to the world of Shang Chi!!!! Never thought I route for Hela either! So satisfying 😌
Halfway through the episode and the way they combined Ragnarök and the first Thor film with the beginning of Thor's banishment with Hela to Midgard as he puts a curse on Hela's crown instead of Thor's just crazy. Also the stopping of Thor's hammer with Odin instead of Hela was a nice mirroring of Thor: Ragnarök happening at the Bifrost was a nice moment. Loving the incorporation of Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings storyline as well with Hela being trained in the art of Tai Chi.
It is Ta Lo Magic=Wuxia martial arts for gods.
Truly my favorite episode of what if. Just hope this version of Hela and Wenwu return in future mcu project
This is my favorite episode so far. I love the Thor and Shang Chi lore in the main MCU and blending it is just incredible.
Personally felt like Hela's change of heart was a bit too abrupt, but I'm glad it was both Wenwu and Jiayi who helped her change. Also feel like this should've aired before the Captain Carter episode, since the last two episodes were building up to the finale and this one didn't (imagine Galadriel Hela in the finale, would've been OP lol)
The episodes are just to short!
If only it could be 45-50minutes or 1hours? It would be the dream.
Hela screaming as she can't pickup the crown is the same scream as Thor with him not able to lift his hammer in first Thor film at the Shield base in Puente Antigua.
The last 3 episodes have went to another level and im enjoying it
😂 You literally called it. Hela became the White Savior. Literally!
I really enjoyed this episode quite a bit! It mixes completely different sides of the MCU together perfectly, and a lot of really cool stuff came out of this episode. My highlights of this episode were the action and especially the final fight because that was really cool and well done! Props to the animators, and although not my favorite episode of the season, I still thought I was really good! 8/10!
Can we also just appreciate how good the music has been in this whole series!!
Hela, danger Galadriel with the one ring subjected to her will. I love Kate, she portrays power so well.
Wenwu: And that's how i met your mother.... She even smacked my head multiple times on a table
Her suit at the end !!!!!! So beautiful!! Best episode this season so far
This felt like they did the Loki Show premise, with Hela.
We already have an attachment to her character and her arc in the MCU, many of us ALREADY love her to death (pun intended), so they took a chance at a redemption arc and it REALLY paid off i friggin loved this episode and really love this version of Hela as well haha
Hela and loki are so alike. Thor should have been the adopted one 😂
Everyone saying " this was by far my favourite episode " to every episode 😂. Love it
The great thing about this is that now that the multiverse is a thing, they could make full length movies out of any of these "What If?" episodes. Frankly it would be a refreshing take and I think would get people more interested in the MCU again after some of their lesser loved works of late.
It's funny that you mistook the replacement for Anthony Hopkins and thought Cate Blanchett was a replacement . . .
Hella the White Savior 😭😭😭 Lmao it literally is her arc. 😂
I definitely didn't expect to see Goddess of Justice/Life Hela in MCU.
Although I have mixed feelings for this episode.
Wenwu really reminds me of Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat for some reason 😂. His face and voice seems almost the same!
After Loki's redemption, its Hela's turn! 😊😊😊
The goddess of death is back.😎 The truth is, the chapter made me feel sorry for Hela and knowing that she died in the main line of the MCU, because she really wasn't evil, Odin was to blame for all of that ambition she had.🥺 True, that final fight with the Mandarin ufff was great.😎
Right it was all Odin's fault
This is actually kinda sad now. Hela had the potential to be good if odin had given her the same treatment as thor
We might see her again later in live action as the goddess of life.
@@Br0wnCh3goddess of peace imo. I love it
Hela is so much like Loki here. Also when Jia Yi keeps asking the reasons behind her aims to find her deepest desire, it reminds me of Sylvie kept asking Loki about why he wanted to save the TVA. But also it's great to see how Marvel humanize these gods while making them more powerful at the same time
It really took all three of Odin's kids being around the right people to heal and grow. He really messed them up.
Such a great episode, and also gives us an opportunity to see how someone on the status of hela and Odin will do against thanos in the mere future
One reason why Thanos wouldn't go on his quest for the stones until they were BOTH (especially Odin) out of the equation.
@@Phizzo4realYeah, there's no way it's a coincidence that Thanos only attacked when these both powerhouses were gone
Every episode:
These guys: (THAT) sucked This is good.
Jeez you can just say “THIS is good because “
😂😂 it’s funny
This was a top tier episode. One of the best by far.
I didn't realize you guys were so down on season one until watching these season two reactions. I thought season one was very good and I thought that it was generally looked at in a positive light. Hearing you guys be so down on it is surprising.
Lmfao not Odin having his ass whopped by the ten rings
Hela literally went from the goddess of death to the goddess of life. Cate Blanchett coming back as Hela and giving her more character development was everything. Also come to think she ascended to higher form of cosmic being like Loki realizing her Glorious Purpose.
It isn't her
Isn't who? Cate Blanchett? It is, she was in the beginning credits
@@alancaddie-rl8fh Cate Blanchett is voiced Hela. The opening credits easily gives the names of the cast that appear in the episode 😆😂.
@@Ajar37 thank you.
This honestly has to be my favorite of the season. Just like you both said, every episode somehow gives me the feeling of “I need to see a feature length film of this” but this one specifically ends where I desperately need a full movie continuation
Like seriously this was a mix of the first Thor and the first episode of Loki. Brilliant really.
I really enjoyed this episode, I really liked and found the whole episode to be really entertaining and fun. I really liked this episode’s story, I found it to be really interesting and entertaining. I really enjoyed the story, the characters, the score, the cinematography and the animation. It was great to get to learn more and see more about Hela, her background and her goals throughout this episode. Especially with the scene where Odin initially gave Hela her crown and when Hela talked about what she really wanted after conquering the Nine Relms. I loved getting to see Hela interact with the Ten Rings and Ta Lo, it was really fun to get to see how she would try to adapt to these new environments. And these were a combination of characters and places that I never thought we would ever get to see in the MCU. And I absolutely loved the fight between Hela and Wenwu against Odin. This fight was so awesome, getting to see the dynamics of powers between these three as they fought was amazing. And the choreography for the fight was really great, getting to see how each of them would use their powers and abilities to their fullest while using different techniques to try and take out the other was amazing. I loved getting to see their three different styles of fighting clashing. I also loved getting to see more of Wenwu in action, I loved getting to watch his fighting style throughout the Shang-Chi movie so it was really great to get to see even more of it in this episode. And on top of that it was also super cool to actually see Odin in action. In the MCU we never really got to see him in action because he had already long given up his warriors ways, but in this episode he had just now decided to give up that life style so he was still primed for a fight so we actually got to see how Odin would have fought in battle. And it was just so cool, I loved how much of a tank he felt like in this fight and with his combination of broad and brutal yet fast attacks his fighting style was able to feel similar to Thor’s without it feeling like it was just a copy and paste of Thor’s move set. Also after Hela became good, became worthy to have her crown and she dawned the white attire I couldn’t help but be reminded of another Cate Blanchett character that was good and wore white, Galadriel from Lord of the Rings. I just had such a fun time watching this episode I cannot wait to see how the rest of the episodes in this new season will turn out. I cannot wait for tomorrow’s episode! I hope that it is as good if not better than this one and that this season is able to keep up this episode’s style of quality, writing, and storytelling.
I LOVED THIS EPISODE SOOOOOO MUCH!!!!!!
I liked Hela in Thor Ragnarok I thought She was a Good Villain but I never liked Her as much as Everybody else. But I loved what They Did with Her in This Episode! Seeing Her go through The Character Arc Thor went through in The First Movie was so Great! And then having Wenwu and all of The Shang-Chi connections was just So Awesome!
This Season has Been absolutely Fantastic so far!
I'M SOOOOOO EXCITED FOR THE REST OF THE SEASON!!!!!!
That is just an amazing concept that I never thought of but just proves to be so awesome!
It's no surprise Hela speaks Mandarin. The gods can speak all languages
I love the running gag of almost EVERY episode being like “haha hey wanna watch Thanos lose?” Whether it be him dying in one hit, or just being a good person and stop fighting and joining the hood guys
That session exploring Hela's motivations reminded me of the first conversation with Mobius in Loki:
"So you become 'Loki: King of Space,' then what?..."
They were both raised by the same awful father so it makes sense that they would have similar traumas
this is actually the best ending amongst all episodes, hela and wenwu stopping thanos before the "balance" thing
he probably already had killed some people
Your commentary at the end was hilarious! It is kind of funny that right after the Kahhori episode which was the antithesis of the White Savior trope, they had this episode which doubled down on it, literally giving her white armor at the end. 😅
You guys have definitely called allot of what has happened in these shows. The best theorists around. 👏
Awesome episode. When I heard this was one of the episode concepts (as far back as reports from Comic Con in 2021 I believe) I was intrigued to see what they did with the episode because of my love of mythology and Asian stuff, and it didn't disappoint. Definitely another good episode in an already good season of television.
From looking at the credits, it looks like Cate Blanchett and Idris Elba are the only returning cast members for their roles and everyone else is different for this episode, though I agree Odin does sound somewhat similar to Anthony Hopkins even though it's not actually him.
Also, Hela doesn't just "know Mandarin", Asgardians (and I believe all the gods and mythological figures in Marvel) are able to understand and speak every language as they have something called Allspeak (fitting name for an ability to speak all languages).
I think one pf the reasons this look so good is partly due to expectations.
All of us werent expecting much. I was looking forward to it because i like how new and different this kind of storytelling for the MCU was in the first season, but i never thought it would be this good. It rivals some of the best animations EVER (Not just Marvel or DC)... Im talking Incredible, Toy Story, Batman Animated series, Soul....
17:50 When you guys joked about her becoming a savior earlier in the episode. I was thinking you just you wait for this 🤣
They surely trying to build an army for Multiversal threat in Season 2 than in Season 1.
Wenwu be like: I can fix her.
I loved this episode so much. 10/10. I might be alone on this one, but i watch alot of shows, THIS is in my top 10 shows of the year.
Damn alternate versions of Thor's siblings are something else they became so powerful force first evil loki to loki the life force for yggdrasil, hela probably kill or imprison thanos and prevented major chaos in future it goes to show how terrible is Odin
I love hela grow and learn while she was on earth becoming the god of light and freedom
Silly names ive come up with so far for each focused character-
• Supernova Nebula & The Gaurdians of Xandar
• Celestial Starlord & The 88' Avengers
• Hela: The Goddess Of Life
The fact we are getting what if stories about villains as main characters now just shows how much of level up this season is from the previous one, and obviously the animation and the writing has improved too
This was awesome! Odin has deserved a major ass kicking for centuries haha. And it was such a cool mix of Thor and Loki's relationships with Odin too. I do really wish we had gotten more of Hela and Loki banter in Ragnarok. Such a missed opportunity, they’re both so sassy. They could've really annoyed Thor as a combo lol
Thats one "Hella" Episode
I adored this episode. Cate Blanchett is SO FRICKIN GOOD!!! Loved her in Ragnarok and loved this redemption/heroic arc for the Hela. This was awesome. One of my faves of the season.
This season of what if kinda felt like a highly produced previs. I can see writer and director coming up to marvel with it and telling them so we had this idea. It really feel like the first mcu phase where a movie is a movie on it's own. The current mcu phase is all over the place, most of us, i think, still watch mcu movie to see where it goes but compare to previous movie I don't think I'll watch Quantumania or the marvels on it's own.
I still got the feeling that after endgame some people at marvel try too hard to come up with a story that could rival the infinity arc forgetting that a movie need to be good without the threat in the shadow that an avengers movie will solved later on.
This make me think I would love to see more of marvel on a big screen in a different way. Maybe between the success of the spiderverse and what if we might see an animated movie who doesn't need to be a part of the mcu but it could be cool to see what they could come up with.
So, it's Thor 1, Shang-Chi, and Loki S2 woven into one linear story, showcasing an underused character and giving them an emotional growth arch that was also easy to be drawn into.
It’s like every new episode of S2 “What IF” is almost everyone favorite. It’s funny.
Watching this review, it occurred to me that so many of the plots from Asgard in the MCU are basically, "Variations on Odin's mistakes." He's like the poster child for toxic parenting.
Oh, this was my favourite EP of this season, easily...
I loved it.
Cate Blanchett is amazing
I love that Hela’s condition for using her godly tool is DIFFERENT from Thors. It’s not that she needs to be ‘worthy’, no Odin says ‘Should she know mercy’ for her condition
Banger episode, just finished it myself and saw the notification
I cannot believe they got Cate Blanchett and Idris Elba back to do vo work, amazing!!!! And it's getting press from their Twitter and IG accounts, but I haven't seen this show promoted anywhere else.
Another PEAK episode of What If...? S2
Hela 's silver white suit is like Anti-Venom suit 🤣😱🔥
So we called ultron from last season Infinity Ultron… what are we going to call this Hela? My vote is for Heavena ☺️
This was such a cool episode. I mean getting a good Hela, with her crown, Odins spear, and Ta Lo spiritual power is so freaking cool who comes up with this stuff?!
Odin had both eyes. He hadn't traded one for wisdom yet.
Finally a fact in this ocean of bullshit comments
I love this direction for Hela. But I wonder if Thor would ever be born and Loki ever taken by Odin - so, would they exist?
Well, Odin is assumably cast out when Hela takes the throne and liberates the Nine Realms so; Thor is potentially still born but he would likely not be a Prince of Asgard AND Mjolnir was destroyed so he wouldn't be the Thor we knew. If Odin is not on the thrown anymore and the Nine Realms are Liberated, the war with the frost giants wouldn't have happened and Loki would not have been adopted - similar to Season One's "What If...? Thor was a single child."
Thor would likely be born (Hela even says in the episode that Odin and Frigga, Thor's mom, are together) but I doubt they would adopt Loki. So yes, they would likely exist, but would be different from the versions of them that we know.
Thor and Loki would be probably still exist in this universe but in a different circumstances. Instead of them I'm more curious about Shang Chi, he would probably never existed in this universe since Wenwu falling to Hela instead of Shang Chi's mom
@@zaluwawa20 it could be too that Hela is Shang-Chi's mom in this Universe.
@@lordofninjas1 yeah i also thought about that too but that would be so different. Gosh this episode are amazing
For all the benefits this episode gave hela, I think it gave some to wenwu aswel. This is our look at a wenwu before he lost his wife and shows just how much that loss effected him a lot more then the family flashbacks did imo
Amazing episode, such an interesting concept. The choice of characters and timeline is very intriguing. My favourite of the season for sure.