Nanzhao: A Lost Kingdom in Southern China
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- Опубліковано 17 тра 2024
- Nanzhao was a kingdom that flourished in what is now southern China and Southeast Asia during the 8th and 9th centuries. It emerged through the unification of six tribes in what is now the Chinese province of Yunnan, and would turn out to be a strong military power. By playing its far larger and more powerful neighbours against each other, it managed to not only retain its independence, but also to expand in all directions. In addition, it boasted an advanced system of government, its own brand of Buddhism, and monumental works of architecture. In this video I give an overview of the history of this fascinating kingdom.
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Southern China is a land full of miracles and mysteries, people often think of Southern China as nothing more than a Han Chinese land, but in fact historically speaking Han Chinese's ancestors the Sinitic people originated from Northern China, whereas Southern China was the land of various Non-Sinitic tribes including Hmong-Mien, Tai-Kradai, Austroasiatic, and possibly even Austronesian. Thanks for your presentation of Nanzhao, as someone of Southwestern Chinese descent, in recent years I become more and more aware of my native ancestry and I hope that the history of Southern China can be known by more people.
I read Chinese sources and I agree those ancient Han did not cross Yantze river no before tang dynasty at least and even before Yuan dynasty they tried stick to the land where they were in Northern China.
Yep, austronesians left south china mostly likely due to unending wars and conflict.
@@dennythedavinchi3832 Strictly Han Chinese heavily populate southern China after three kingdom period, and after Tang dynasty heavily rely grain supplies from southern China.
@@Theodosius18 Depends on where in Southern China you're talking about, cause not all of Southern China were sinicized at the same time. What you said is only true for places like Jiangsu and Zhejiang. For places further south like Fujian it was during the Tang that Sinitic people began to heavily populate there, for Guangdong it was during the Song, and for Guangxi, Guizhou, and Yunnan it was even later during the Ming. And last but not least, there was no concept of Han Chinese back in those times. The concept of an unified Han Chinese ethnic group spanning across much of Northern and Southern China was only created in the late Qing or early Republican period.
@@weifan9533 You are right, but he was saying south of Yantze. That is a pretty wide range, i already rule out 荊蠻 and other alike. Strickly Fujian and further south are militarily occupied start in the mid of 9th centuries. Ming kind drop the ball on Yunnan.
Nanzhao Kingdom is mentioned a lot in wuxia novels, games, and dramas, particularly in the Chinese Paladin series
A very pleasant surprise to find this. Thanks for covering the Nanzhou Kingdom! When I was exploring the area around Erhai Lake, I found an all-Muslim village. There are other Islamic villages in nearby valleys. Muslim traders were in the area since the Tang Dynasty. The day after exploring the village, a Bai gentleman invited me into his home to share his musical traditions. The diverse cultures that have been there since the Nanzhou Kingdom make Erhai magical. The cultural richness matches the area's natural beauty. Yunnan is my favorite Chinese province.
Yunnan culture more closer to southeast asian, especially Tai people, Hmong and Tibetian-Burmese people, but today more and more becoming Sinicized, East of Northeast India Manipur, Nagaland more closer to Burmese culture.
I'm from Myanmar and I would like to correct the term "Bamar/Burma" or "Burmese". This term originated from Indian traders who would describe Myanmar & Bagan as the civilization East of Brahmaputra River. The word Myanmar is the proper term created by Myanmar people and used since Bagan was first constructed, you can find its records in tablets, scrolls & pagodas. The word Burma was later used by the British when they asked the Indians what's east of India, thus the word got stuck in European records. So we prefer to call ourselves Myanmar.
I believe they originally called themselves "Mranma". Then British called the country Burma after Indian Bramadesh? Idk
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I met someone once and they told me they were from Myanmar. They had to say Burma after I asked them where that is. Sad truth is it's going to take a while before people start using the correct name, if they ever do at all. We still say Germany instead of Deutschland and Japan instead of Nihon.
Interesting, I'll try to start referring to the Myanmar people as such, I didn't realize the term Burmese wasn't a self identifier.
@@Wooargh To add to that, related to the video, China is more formally known as 中国 (Zhong Guo) though I'm not sure where that would fall, since the Chinese people do refer to the country as China. Maybe it would be considered a historical name, despite it still being used.
I like your channel, high quality stuff
Legitimately interesting history! I really like this channel.
Just discovered it yesterday and it's my new favourite
Thank you so much for the great work! It's quite interesting and I learned crucial information about my ancestral roots. I am from Chin State, Myanmar and my people call themselves Tuili Cho (or K'cho) people. But since we live in Chin State, people mainly know us as Chin people though it's not how we, the local address ourselves. Many historians believe that we are the descendants of Pyu people because we share many similar traits with Pyu peopel such as facial tattoo, naming system, earings and linguistic similarities up to present day. Later, Pyu people were merged by the Nanzhao people (Burmese people) as presented in the video. But in our oral legends, it says we come from a great lake, (Tuili Cho: Tui - water, Li - deep, cho- person) meaning people from the deep lake or the great lake which could be Erhai Lake that you mentioned in 2:01 minutes. For example, Nanzhao people call their chief Mang and until now within our people we call our leader or chieftain Mang pa which is also part of my name Mang in Yaw Mang.
@George Pilzer Kachin state is the northernmost region of Myanmar and Chin state is western part of Myanmar. Some oral history says that Chin and Kachin are brothers, Chin being the elder one. During one of their travel, Kachin brother was left behind and couldn't catch up his brother (Chin). So he settled in where he was which is Kachin State now. The elder brother went ahead and settled in his place as well, which is Chin State now. People think this oral history is true for some Chin and Kachin people.
😀😀 I am a Lusei, a part of the Chin-Kuki-Mizo tribe. Very interesting to see that your Tui has a same meaning as our Tui. 😂😂. And also Li means pond or lake or deep in our language too. Lai Tribe are one of Chin-Kuki-Mizo and they also have the same mythology like your origin. Most of the Chin that you met are Lai. And another interesting thing is that the Meiteis, who established the King of Kangleipak also claims that they are the descendants of ancient Lai tribes. We Chin-Kuki-Mizo have a story about Chhinlung or Khul meaning a Closed Cave which was the place that we came out but because of the noisy Ralte Tribe, the Creator called Khuanu closed it thinking that they many humans have come out.
My wish is to find out our origins and to know who were our ancestors. 😑😑👍
Nah, they're from Chinlung or Singlung, which is a cave, not a lake. Water is ti, not tui. Deep is thup, not li. Mang means dream, not chief. Lian means chief or great
What a great study with great information! I hd traveled extensibly in this area and am very familiar with it and the locations brought to light here. I traveled on Lake Erhi, visit the Ba Yi People who were lovely, visited the land in Dali, Ancient Dali, stay there in 2002, seeing Snow Dragon Mountain, Kunming, Stone Forest, and the part of the Silk Road there out of the Gates of Dali and how beautiful. I also took the ski lift to the ridge of the mountain there and walked around in my tour as well. We took a tour from Nanchang, Jiangxi and the train went right through the Karst Mountains into Kunming (also saw the location of the great international flower show as well 2001) and I took thousands of pictures. It was the trip of a lifetime for me and I will return also one day when I retire. I also have the incredible picture of the three towers in the lake which is almost impossible to get a good shot of because of the clouds that almost make the reflection impossible but I got it!! The Stone Forest was an incredible mind blowing place as well! Butterfly Spring and many lovely places were traveled by us in a tour where I made friends for life even to this day we still chat on wechat! I have traveled a lot over this wonderful country and seen many great places and incredible feats of construction but this was truly magical. It was an event to make you swell with joy maybe as much as the Great Dam and the Terra Cotta mauseleums as well! Thank you for this great reminder of how beautiful a place can be on this earth!! Wo Ai Zhong Hua Ray C. Florida
Great video - would love to see more on this period and this area (e.g Tibet)
that was very interesting, please more!
Extremely informative. Stunning graphics, well-explained historical chronology and key events as well as covering the culture and influencing culture. A treasure trove 🤩🤩
Great video thanks for it!
This video was fascinating, I'd never heard of Nanzhao before. I'm also quite impressed by your pronunciation. I'm very used to history channels always absolutely butchering chinese pronunciation, so I was very pleasantly surprised to hear that you very clearly researched how to say certain words. Words like "nan," "feng," and "yi" are especially often misspoken, so I was very happy that you said them fairly accurately
The picture of Duan Siping depicts Han robes but the tall metallic crown is reminiscent of Thai/ Southeast Asian crowns, with an obvious Indic influence.
This is interesting.
Thank you 💖
Thanks for the video. As I read the history, this is part of a former Tai kingdom where its people generally migrated further south of China and formed new kingdoms; and three of those kingdoms have become Myanmar, Thailand and Laos.
Nope, Nanzhao was multi-ethnic, it's elites were Tibeto-Burman Yi and Bai peoples, not Tai. That was debunked long time ago by even Thai academia. The rest of Nanzhao were Austroasiatic Pugan, Palaung and Wa peoples. Demographic and genetic evidence shows that a few number of Tai speakers actually settled in Yunnan.
Originally Thai, Lao, Shan, Ahom both came from Northeast Vietnam and Guangxi-Guangdong provinces_Southern China. Here the Tay-Nung-Zhuang and Kam-sui peoples still living there in mass.
I was in Yunnan. I understand people there very well. I even have their songs on my Facebook. Love the region. The Mekong (Lanxang Jiang) was beautiful. You know Lanxang is a former name of Laos, as you know, it’s the land of million elephants.
Tai came from dali kingdom not nanzhao
@@cudanmang_theog Tai in Northeast Vietnam is not the origin
.They are immigrants too.
Zhuang people are immigrants too.
I recommend a visit to the Pyu city of Sri Ksetra if you are in Myanmar
Wow, it looks beautiful. The architecture and natural scenery is lovely.
Eastern Asia history is so interesting, yet so complicated, at least for me as a European.
I assure you we feel the same about European history. All the stories under the sun are miracles that have been preserved by our ancestors, what a great joy to share them.
European is shorter and Christian since the middle ages, easier to understand
@@kddiodox not really. European history starts with ancient Greece and not with the Christian kingdoms
@@kddiodox china is almost always unified and you only have to memorize the dynasties which are pretty similar, it’s easier
cool video man
Southern China is to me the most interesting part of China. Thanks for the video.
Thank you for a fascinating video, it's strange how little has been written in English on Nan Zhao. Even volume 6 of the Cambridge History of China, Border States and Alien Regimes does not have a chapter on Nan Zhao.
Please make a video on Kushan Kingdom🙏🏻
It's a request
Definitely better than your previous video with regards to endings but still lacking in a summary. Was a good watch overall 👍.
what is that 28 no. what do they called in ancient period. please tell me about no.28
*A correction:*
Back in the eight century, the “Chinese” had no same meaning as nowadays. So it is not quite right to say that Nanzhao have defeated the Chinese as they all were Chinese kingdoms.
Please cover the lost kingdom of Manipur, north east india..it will be a big story..
I visited Manipur once. I am from Thailand 🇹🇭
We are not lost. The people and the king still exists.
@@cobidbeksin5200 you are neighbour with Myanmar. Do you look like Myanmarese or indian or a little chinese? I watch youtube aboit Manipur and you don't look Indian to me but Myanmarese. The Nagas looks more Chinese than Indians. Can you share your history?
@@joeawk We were once an independent kingdom who made with contacts with the Shans, Burmese, Khagi(Chinese),Mongols, Mughals, Takhel(Tripuris),Tekhao(Tai Ahom Kingdom) and like all civilizations, we experienced the zenith and decline....
(And I myself am a descendant from the Ningthouja clan's royal bloodline which existed since time immemorial even before Christ)
@@aarkaybmer6329 where are you now?
stunning!
How did the name "Myanma" came from?
In old proto-Tibeto-Burman language,
"Mrān" means "Horse". 🐎
"Máng" means "leader/king/chief". 👑
proto-T-B "Mrān máng /မ္ရန်းမာင်"
old Burmese "Mrán má /မ္ရန်မာ"
Modern Standard Burmese lost "R" pronouncing.And
It became "Mián má/ မြန်မာ / Myanma " which means "fast strong or fast rough".
But it's right translation is "Mīng mīn/မြင်းမင်း/ Horse King or Horse chief".
In some dialect of Burmese like Marma,
"Mrān máng/ မ္ရန်းမင်" still means "Horse chief".
Great video and very informational, however i keep hearing "kingdom of your nan" instead of "kingdom of Yunnan"
Now India is colonizing the North East Asian which used to be part of Nan Zhao.
Was tibet part of china historically
North East India is fully Indian your Han Chinese or South east Asian mongol do not belong on India's side of the Himalayas. More like India is holding its rightful territory.
@@specimenuncensored9121 India also colonizing Central Asian
@@Ranjeetfb08 Yes. Tibet was independent until they were conquered by the Yuan dynasty (Mongols) and merged with China. They were free again, then ruled by Qing dynasty (Manchus). Then free again until PROC (Han Chinese) took over.
India isn't claiming anything. Those borderline lands used to be their own kingdom before Qing dynasty invaded. You're just mad that less lands are under CCP control.
good job .
It's mostly Yi and Bai people.
By the way, in the new video game Elden Ring, the ''fictional language'' is actually Japanese, Japanese Kana alphabets replaced by Yi alphabets.
I want to know your source of the map in 0:29
I almost accidentally thought that it was NanMan from the three kingdom periods until the map shows Tang Dynasty.. 😅😅
Nice video! Make something about Zhuang people, they are the biggest minority group in China but nobody knows about them, wolf warriors 🐺 Greetings from Serbia 🇷🇸
The Yi people are the main force of the Nanzhao Kingdom.
We tai-ahom people of assam, india were originally from yunnan and our first king, chaolung siu-ka-pha ruled there for many years before migrating towards west where assam lies(presently a province in india)
I was lucky enough to live and work here almost 25 years ago.
Ah so
"...they didn't want to kill the silkworms..."
R E S P E C T 🙏
Is that the same as the dali kingdom?
Yah, Dali Kingdom was successor of Nanzhao Kingdom.
Duan Siping, the founder Emperor of Dali, was a governor of Nanzhao.
The Lao later referred to as the Tai peoples came from Guangdong and Guangxi migrated into Nanchao in the 6th to 9th after several failed rebellions against the Tang expansion into southeast China.
Since the Han Tang up until the Q’ing dynasty, reference to these people in Chinese manuscripts referred to them as being the Lao or Ai Lao peoples.
Tai is a Lao and Zhuang word that means native or local of, which was later misinterpreted to meaning some sort of ethnic groups, there are no historical manuscripts that mentions any group of people called Tai. They were called Lao people.
Nanzhao people are modern day Burmese, not Tai.
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s Ai Lao kingdom not Nanchao, it’s recorded in Chinese manuscripts
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s 😂😂Nowadays Burmese not have in china not close language😂
I think of the Yue and Tai world of what is now south China as if it were the Celts of mainland Europe. A long gone [not entirely] alternate world. Though the European analogy is weak- the Yue and Tai ultimately fared much better.
lol no, the Celts speak Indo-European languages
@@xakatas9510 i'm pretty sure he means it within the context of the Celts having historically inhabited a wide area but now the speakers of Celtic languages are tiny minorities even within their own homelands just as the han Chinese make up the majority of china's population even in the homelands of the other Chinese ethnic groups.
@@MohammedAli-hl4mr I know, but it's inappropriate for the OP to use Celtic as an example. I think the Basques are a more appropriate example.
Yue weren't only Tai they were multiethnic multilingual multicultural, ranging from Austronesian, Tai, Hmong Mieng, Pakanic Bolyu and Bugan tribes
Could you elaborate on the Dali Kingdom next time? Thanks!
Where is the time machine ? I wanted to go back to china 5000 yrs ago to see my great great great great ……………….. great ….. grandpa n grandma.
It seems the pagodas work! Not a dragon sight for centuries!
The natives of thailand 🇹🇭 n Laos 🇱🇦 reportedly came from here as well as the Shan minorities.
They came from GuangXi and Guangdong regions
No. Tai peoples never the dominant in Yunnan. They originally came from Guangxi and Northeast Vietnam.
@@cudanmang_theog you are correct, they were chased out of GuangXi and Guangdong by the Tang armies mostly and settled in the region close to Kunming,
during Nanchao’s conflict with dai Viet in the 9th century, the Nanchao army sent to invade Hanoi was a Lao/Tai army, that army retreated after the Chinese gathered an army to retake Hanoi, the Lao(Tai) army retreated up the red river, where they discovered that the region was mostly uninhabited, they named the red river Mae Nam Taav/the river to return,
after returning to Nanchao a group returned to that region to settle there, that city they fist settled is called Muang Lo, or what Vietnamese call Ngai Lo in Yen Bai Province. Their numbers swelled after that first settlement so they expanded into Muang Thenh or what Viets know as Dien Bien Phu.
From Dien Bien Phu they went to settle Northern Laos in the 10th-12th century and later Thailand in the 13th and 14th century.
No, Nanchao is chinese name.It's real name is Nusuo.
No
Can visitors enter and climb up the triple pagodas?
I like your videos
If you can say ' immune ', you can say " Myanmar " ( myãmar)
Routes, not ' routs'
Nanzhao besieged and sacked Hanoi in 863 enabled Vietic groups to rise and take dominant of northern Vietnam and eventually form the Viet kingdom
So vietnam people are nanzhao people?
@@leomonarch2151 no it's more like they gave them the opportunity to take over northern Vietnam
@@leomonarch2151 the Muong and some Vietnamese chiefs allied with Nanzhao, severely weakening the Chinese influence and forced them to abandon northern Vietnam in 878
@@leomonarch2151 lol there's no "Vietnam people" it's pissed off.
Today Yunnan is still home of many Austroasiatic peoples, and archaeology says that Yunnan, Sichuan and edge of Tibet were the homeland of Austroasiatic speaking peoples (which includes Khmer and Vietnamese) around 9200-4700+-500 years ago.
The Nanzhao army siege of Hanoi also assembled with Austroasiatic tribal mercenaries of Bo'man and Cuanman in Yunnan, today Mang, Palaung, Bugan and Wa.
@@cudanmang_theog You’re still mad that Vietnam lives off Chinese culture and values
My wife is a Naga Lady. Her ancestors and herself live in this area till this day.
Bro I’d love to know more and even travel to south and west China but most of the info about it it’s bias from all sides, I like to imagine what a day to day life would be like
Our life is no different from that of people in other parts of China and the world
Zhongguo is truly a fascinating nation!
1:20 wow Tibetan empire was as big as Tang empire. The two powerhouse in Asia before Mongols or Japan.
Maybe the Mongols were before Tibet?
@@lgv3051 No, Tibet was a great power from 7 to 9 century, called Tubo dynasty, about the time of Tang Dynasty. Mongols rules were from 12 to 14 century. Tibetan equivalent Genghis Khan was Enperor Sontsen Gampo.
@@vajraheart6052 you are right. I was looking up the history just now. The Mongols were much more recent than i had thought. Thank you
@@vajraheart6052 Well MAYURAN, GUPTA were also Great Giants at the same TIME.
@@sasmalprasanjit2764 Absolutely, pretty sure it’s Gupta empire during Chinese Tang and Tibetan Tubo dynasties rule in 7th century. This above video title kingdom mentioned about its neighbour powers and not other powers nearby. It didn’t even border Indian subcontinent.
For sure Gupta was a golden period and Chinese Buddhist explorer Hsuang Tsen chronicled how impressed he was during his travel in northern India with its splendid Buddhist centres such as Nalanda and how kind, farsighted the people and rulers were. He came from the golden period of Chinese history of Tang and if he was impressed, I am sure it was magnificent.
Do you mean Mauryan, Emperor Ashoka, the greatest empire that ever existed in Indian subcontinent who did more to spread Buddhism than anyone else in the history. Well that was 700-800 years prior to 6 to 7 century AD on above.
That's a bit of a sudden stop to the video.
Duan as in Duan in Serial movie Demi Gods and Semi Devils?...
didn't these flee from Chinese Yuan to Siam?
Dragons: " ohh what are those cute pointy thingy called ?? Looking tight!! "
Humans: " those would ve called "pagodas" , sir"
Dragons: " Nooooo, not pagodas!! We leave you alone now"
History teaches that "nothing is as unreliable as a good friend or a close ally" 😉
南诏是我赵灵儿的故乡
We Zo people believe that we are the descendants of Zhao people. 😑😑👍
What happen to the Zhao people?
5:07 original people
So, it was not really different from many other Chinese kingdoms.
The world is a story of migration. Cultures are formed as easily as languages die, what’s more important is the present condition and its sustainability. Clinging on to the past is the slow process of dying.
Ah the shu kingdoms who rule over this land during liu bei before enter jin
No, Shu is more Han culture to the north of Yunnan. Sichuan is Shu. Yunnan is a different polity.
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Nanzhou means "South Kingdom."
For some reason, I find that very funny.
Nanzhao 南诏 not nanzhou 南州
I got a 4.5 minute ad during this video. I love your channel but this is too much.
That's weird. Non-skippable video ads aren't activated on my videos, so I'm not sure what happened there ...
This our Tai shan kingdom.
our lolo burmese kingdom.
@@terraminsan7392 funny thank you.
@@terraminsan7392 နန်ချောင်နဲ့ဗမာနဲ့ဘာဆိုင်လို့တုန်း နန်ချောင် တ့လီ မိုင်းမောလုင် ဘယ်ဟာမှဗမာနဲ့မဆိုင်ဘူး ဘာမှာလည်းခေတ်ပြိုင်မှတ်တမ်းဘယ်မှာလဲသက်သေ
မျိုးရိုးနာမည်တောင်မရှိတဲ့ဗမာတွေကဖင်ယားနေပြန်ပြီ
No need, it's just fact every true scholar know.
Fire nation fron Avatar😱
Stop disrespecting my nan like that
0:07 Poor Taiwan
chao mean lords or leaders. the speak they speak a lao language. they settled in this area after coming down from bhutan. during the yuan dynasty they were pushed in modern day lao. burma thailand
Chao came from the Mon-Khmer word: meaning grandchildren in Khmer and chief in Mon. The Laotian and Thai later adopted the word but its evidence in Southeast Asia predate them.
Chao/Zhao is derived from Viet-Muong world for grandchildren chau
Yunnan, Xinjiang, Guandong, Taiwan are four areas of the old empires which were always the last to be subjugated, and the first to rebel, causing their downfall, historically. When I read Thucydides’ book The Peloponnesian War on the fall of Athen, that’s when these 4 provinces came up on my mind. The old is new again in 2022!
Wishful thinking tbh
Yeah, the CIA's been trying to get a rebellion going on Tibet for decades, and Xinjiang since the 50s, when they armed and trained seperatists. It doesn't happen, and all that Greek stuff isn't worth a fig compared to it. The other guy said it best: wishful thinking on your part
That's literally not true, though
Is this secretly lemmino? Or is it just a sound a like?
Thanks for the vid..the world must know there are many interesting and different peoples in china esp south china and that the han just destroyed it.
Oh really? Then why does the architecture still stand, tourism for said architecture still exist and why do people learn about it in history lessons?
It's actually nan shao
Nanzhao is an indigenous non-Chinese name
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s lmao, Nanzhao is actually right, he just made a mistake, and you just followed his mistake hahahahha
@@Dou_Y what you said made no sense hahaha
@@user-pd9ju5dk5s hahhahahah and now you are following me, kid hahhahahah
@@Dou_Y well, enjoy the drugs, kid
The southward expansion of China (Han Chinese) was a continuous gradual process going on for 4000+ years, Nanzhao wasn't the first and neither was it the last (you then have Tibet under nominal subordination of Ming and Qing dynasty, and finally practical control by PRC). The Han, or at the time called Huaxia, was originally just controlling the northern Chinese plain.
The Chu, Wu, Yue, Ba, and Shu kingdoms that were as north as Hubei, Jiangsu and Sichuan, were of the non-Han ethnicities, some claim to be related to modern Thai, Vietnamese and Miao/Hmong people.
The Miao/Hmong and Yi people (that formed Nanzhao) believe themselves to be the descendants of Chiyou. The man that lost the battle against the leader of the Huaxia, the god-king Huangdi, 4500 years ago. If Chiyou had won, they would have become the dominant race/culture of China, while the Huaxia/Han would be a minority living in the north western highlands of Shaanxi, Sichuan and Qinghai.
There's a cousin branch of the Huaxia/Han that never left those highlands and rule the central plains, and they're called the Qiang people now. Actually Tibetans were originated from one of those cousin groups too.
And then there are the eastern Yi (don't get mixed up with the Yi that formed Nanzhao, that's 彝 and the eastern Yi is 夷) who were from the northeast. The Koreans believed themselves to be the descendants of them, and also believe Chiyou to be their ancestor's leader. Yeah, there are contradictory records and myths about Chiyou being the leader of the eastern Yi or southern tribes. What we have now is that both Koreans and many southern ethnicities claim to be Chiyou's descendants. But their genetics and linguistics are too different that it's impossible for them to be originated from the same group. It's mostly just them claiming so to gain legitimacy against Han Chinese assimilation.
Chiyou was culturally the same as Huangdi back then, his tribe later slowly evolved and diverged over thousands of years after moving to the south. If chiyou had won, the people in the north will still be the same, just led by a different leader. Chiyou will become representative of huaxia and huaxia will still exist in the north. Huangdi would move to somewhere else (probably also south) and become another culture, and won't be called huaxia.
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Dont forget kemet,(Egypt)
China and kemet were the two big fishes.
Do you really know what pictures are used in your video? 😅 This is awkward
None of the pictures have anything to do with your story
The province of your nan
Man
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Welp... Chinese food it is...
One of the Ancient Civilizations in EAST of ASIA are a GREAT KNOWERS of STATUES.
It is CLEAAAAR in EL-QURAAN that statues are for scientifc reasons and scientific works. this is why the original Builders of statues were worshipping it : it is not because they were stupid or fool but because they were too arrogant with their sciences to the point of refusing the Messages of our UNIQUE CREATOR just like we do today.
I am very nearly convinced that IBRAHIM and his people are one of the Ancient Asians civilizations.
According to EL QURAAN : the only Knowers and Experts of Statues in History are : 1.the civilization that IBRAHIM belongs to. 2. the "Israelian King Souleyman" and his djounoud.
3.They Were more advanced than actual civilization.
Arabs think themselves children of ALLAH so they consider that all messengers were in Arabia.
but ALLAH is saying :
{ و لكل أمة رسول }
يونس 47
{ أولم يهد لهم كم أهلكنا من قبلهم من القرون يمشون في مساكنهم إن في ذالك لآيات أفلا يسمعون }
السجدة 26
{ أولم يسيروا في الأرض فينظروا كيف كان عاقبة الذين من قبلهم كانوا أشد منهم قوة و أثاروا الأرض و عمروها أكثر مما عمروها و جاءتهم رسلهم بالبينات فما كان اللاه ليظلمهم و لكن كانوا أنفسهم يظلمون ثم كان عاقبة الذين أساؤوا السوءا أن كذبوا بآيات اللاه و كانوا بها يستهزؤون اللاه يبدأ الخلق ثم يعيده ثم إليه ترجعون }
الروم 10
You can find that in the original version of any holy book from our UNIQUE CREATOR.
those towers are ancient electric technology .. Tatarian technology taken away from us , dragons are lightning and electricity.
评论真有意思！缅甸人这是自恋吗？我们中国人用得着攀缅甸人的关系吗？笑！
Arunchal is part of indiaa not china
Proud Tibetan here!
China claims Tibet has always been part of China, when Tibet has always been its own empire even rivaling the Tang Dynasty.
Tibetans and Tibet will never be China or become Chinese.
@Lanny Haul yup we’re our own race, shameless CCP will claim everything n anything.
@@dorjeepalden86 Your best music is now produced in the Tibetan part of China, while Tibetan exiles in India and USA, presumably like you do terribly. Eg. ANU, Chinese Tibetans: ua-cam.com/video/xRGTQaCbbnw/v-deo.html&ab_channel=%E0%BD%96%E0%BD%BC%E0%BD%91%E0%BC%8B%E0%BD%A2%E0%BD%BA%E0%BC%8B%E0%BD%96%E0%BD%A0%E0%BD%B2%E0%BC%8B%E0%BD%A3%E0%BD%98%E0%BC%8E
own Race =/= own country, even China admits you are another race...
@Lanny Haul Says who?
From what I know the chinese look down upon the burmese or dark skinned South East Asian. If anything they would only claimed Vietnamese as descendants of Chinese. Not Burmese. Anyway average thais look more chinese than the burmese. Even in Thailand Burmese are looked down upon
Time to rise up dude. :D
It definitely was part of Qiang China
Our TAI Kingdom, china should vacate it
Nanzhao was not Tai. It elites were Tibeto-Burman and the rest were non-Tai like Palaung and Wa
No, Nanzhao Kingdom was created by Yi people. The only Tai kingdom that exists is Chiang Hung (Keng Hung).
@@user-pd9ju5dk5sNanzhao is related to Thai and Laotian not Burmese. Even the word Zhao has the same meaning in Thai and Laotian language which means princedorm.
@@user-pd9ju5dk5sNanzhao is Tai. If Nanzhao is Burmese then tell me what does their kingdom name mean in your language.
@@ohreallyandthen189 Nanzhao were Bai ppl who spoke Nuosu which is a Tibeto Burman language, the royal family naming system is also similar to Burmese not Thai, and Bamar invaded Pyu city states with Nanzhao, Bamar came from Nanzhao. Nanzhao is not Tai.
Mao crimes against China history have to be one of the biggest tragedies in human history.
So much knowledge and monuments lost forever.
China was freed in 1949 and is better now.
So much knowledge and monuments lost forever.--what hell
@@boxerholy9507 the biggest tragedy was China's enslavement and exploitation by the West and they ended it in 1949.
Free Tibet.....
FREE TIBET
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I don't understand what you are saying.
大理国是白族，南诏国彝族，五诏是指彝族的五个部落
Have you ever been called "a drip"? What makes you "air your belly" ? Have you ever seen someone "air their pores " in public 🙀. Tell me when was the last time you were "taken for a ride". Have you ever "aimed/reached/shot for the sky"?. When was the last time you "chickened out".
Watch the video to learn these intriguing expressions and be able to answer the questions above.
Can't stand the accent.
I gave it one minute, and then I realized that I don't have to listen to this guy's strange brand of English... Very difficult to understand this guy's speech.
Nanzhao sounds han chinese, doubt they called their state after another language
Brittania sounds Latin, doubt the English would name their country after another language.
Nanzhao was indeed the way that Sinitic people (Han Chinese is an artificial ethnic group created in the late 19th century and would be anachronistic to use here) called them, since much of East Asia's history was recorded by Sinitic people. Nan is the Sinitic word for south, referring to the location of the kingdom. But Zhao is a Sinitic rendition of a native word, which means rulers or kings, so together Nanzhao means Southern Kings or Kings of the South.
They did have native names for their state, but the one used in documents is written with Chinese characters as 南詔. Their elites were deeply Han-influenced so everything was written in Chinese. How you pronounce those 2 characters depends on what language you speak. In Mandarin Chinese it's Nanzhao, but in Vietnamese for example, it's Nam Chiếu.
@@weifan9533 Han Chinese isn't an artificial ethnic group. It's just traditionally how the culturally Chinese people identified themselves to. Not all places are exactly as same as Europe doesn't mean these identifications are fabricated
They were known as མཇང་ Jang by Tibetans at the time. Tsenpo Dusong Mangjey a prolific warlord died during the campaigns in the south against nanzhao
#Free_Tibet #Free_East_Turkestan
Free Texas
Free Hawaii
@@JulianPerez-zv6os man I don't live in US. That won't work on me.
@@maku8075 There's not a single argument for why Texas and Hawaii should be free countries that don't apply to these regions.
@@maku8075 Not American, but swallowed CIA propaganda, clearly. And by the way? Tibet was freed in 1953