VALVE INSPECTION on our RACE BIKE!! | 2008 CBR 600RR Race Build - Day 6
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In this episode of Wrecked Bike Rebuild Garge, the guys inspect the valves of their CBR 600rr track bike build to see what condition they are in. Of all the 3 CBRs THIS is the one with the most miles! What will the valve inspection show? Let's find out!
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Great video and very informative. Now I truly understand the process. Been a few years Chase!!!😎
Thanks for the comprehensive breakdown on this process, helps me understand my bike better and why a valve adjustment cost as much as it does.
This is one of the best videos I've ever seen. I've learned so much. Thanks for the knowledge. Looking forward to more videos.
I always do valves in mm, it's just significantly more precise, i know it's a range but a 0.006 inch is 0.154mm whereas 0.005 is 0.127, if your range is like 0.14 -0.22 and you can't fit the 0.006 in there but you can the 0.005 you could easily be changing a shim for no reason, or the reverse on the top end of the spec, not change a shim that's out of spec.
Alright so I made it 12 Minutes in so far, the Air Filter was SO dirty when I changed it when I got the bike so that explains the plug issue if that helps you at all.
I am so happy to see the inside of the engine is very clean for the mileage and that I didn't sell you a lemon! I personally have never inspected or adjusted my own valves, but I did it with my friend on his KTM Supermoto and boy was that a pain! Happy to see YT got your videos back on my feed too Chase!
OC, did the valve check (with help of dad) on my GPZ400R ('85) and XL600R ('85). ;)
Great video..
With mechanical humor at 33.40..
Aye! Doing my valve shims on my 30k 03 636 currently.
OC - Would be great to see Brian service a motorcycle like he's on the clock in a dealership. It would be interesting to see how efficient technicians can be. Learned a lot in this episode.
OC - have done valve inspection on a few cars, not bikes. Some pushrod engines have a screw adjuster and a nut.. so you can just change the adjustment easily (no shims needed!). I still learned something here though, thank you 👍
Some MOTORCYCLES have set screw and locknut adjusters. I know the Suzuki GSX250R does, and also the Royal Enfield 650 twins do, just for a couple of current examples. Maybe others. Honestly, shim under bucket valve settings is really race engine stuff, and if you want a "utility" motorcycle - one that you are going to use as a commuter, or maybe your sole means of transport, or maybe even a bike that you are going to use for touring internationally, you really don't need or want shim under bucket valve adjustments. Set screw and locknut valve settings are easy-peasy, and can be done quickly even be done in the back yard by the owner - without danger of the cams getting out of time with the crank and having a valve punch through the top of a piston.
Super nice video thanks
OC I've only ever fully rebuilt one engine, a 1981 Kawasaki Z750 (zx750) DOHC inline 4, and the top end was a nightmare. Ever since I've paid a proffesional Brian to do this kind of work, because this is Brian level stuff 👍
I'm actually very happy about this whole CBR600RR build as I ride a 06' CBR600 and I want to race it by getting my CCS this summer!!!!!
Outro Crew represent! I’ve performed the valve adjustment on my 2009 FZ6R, which is the same engine as the 03-05 R6. Seven out of the 16 valves were out of spec. Full four-part tutorial on my channel for those interested. Every single step, following along with the factory service manual, from start to finish.
This guy is ASMR for eyes to watch, I do myself everything by manual and I appreciate the work he does, perfect
Perfect timing guys! I should probably do this on many of my bikes! Check my channel and see if I actually do!!🙄🤣
I think you're supposed to disengage or remove the Cam Chain Tensioner before checking the valves... my manual says do do that, or you'll have wrong measurements.
Hell of a video. Good job guys!
Unexpectedly one of my fave wbr videos ever.
Honda, Kawasaki, Suzuki run 7.48mm shims can buy them in 0.05 and 0.04mm multiples here (New Zealand) rather than half mm so assume is same everywhere. Yamaha and most of the dirt bikes across all brands run 9.48mm I think. Could be wrong.
Jumping between imperial and metric is a bit of a head f!
oc ive got 10 bikes i need to do them myself :) (1 honda/2 yamaha/1 kawazaki/1 triumph/5 suzukis)
Nice you guys are back. These vids are bloody good👊🏻✊🏻💨💪
Chase please do a valve inspection/adjustmant on Brian s Aprilia Tuono v4 that one is even more a bitch to do. 👍👍👍
OC: Learned how to do valves on my XR650R (easy-mode valve adjustment) and have recently moved up to Desmo level adjustments on my 900ss. I'll still take my 1200s in to the dealer for a pro to do, since I don't have the tools/computer for that bike.
Quite note - because valve clearance tolerance is +/- .001", you would want a micrometer that with a resolution of .00005", and an accuracy of .0001". You typically want your measuring tools to be more accurate than your tolerance, and a shop mic that's been banging around in your tool box and hasn't been calibrated in a decade might only be accurate to +/- .001".
If you had access to a full machine shop, I don't see any good reason why you couldn't grind and lap your shims into exactly the tolerance that you wanted; +/- .0001" shouldn't be that hard to hit. OTOH, if the shims are only case hardened instead of fully hardened, you might end up polishing off the hard outside, and then you'd have *really* fast wear.
Something I love is that Brian is insanely knowledgeable and he's going out of his way to make sure not only that everything is well done but also that everything is well explained and understood... As a tech i highly appreciate this because it can also make my job easier when I'm dealing with costumers.
It's also nice knowing that at the end of this more people who are simply interested will have learned alot and that alone is great!
Good job to the whole team! Love the bikes and love the vids guys!
OC.... I have checked valves on my race bikes but outsourced adjustments.
I wish i could do that inspection myself, unfortunately i don't have a proper workspace so when the time comes i'll bring my bike to a shop..
OC - watched my dad and his mechanic (who I went to highschool with) do the clearances on a CBX. Myself, I'm glad my bike is a twin. Much less work, and my valves are not up under the bodywork (still have to take off some of it though)
I’ve done a valve inspection 3 times on my R1200GS. Almost the easiest bike to do because of accessibility to the heads. 2 times had to adjust, and did those myself as well. Bought the shim kit and swapped shims myself. I was nervous about it the first time, but this bike is cake (and pretty difficult to screw up if you have to make an adjustment).
Done the valve inspection/ adjustment on my 2001 Ducati Monster 600. Engine was out the frame anyway so rude not too.
Did my 08 1000 rr by book specs at 27000 , re set 5 shims pulled motor out . Put it back in fired up on the 6th hit of the button . Never had an issue, it now has 42000 and I'm about to do it again , I followed the instructions had no problems, I would not recommend trying to do in the frame . This was is my first sport bike , wish I had your vid years ago to help, great vids thank you
OC! Took mine to the shop for valves. MSP Cycle in Atlanta did great. Doing whatever else I can and going to try to document the basic stuff!
Yea- did a valve adjustment on my 2014 CB1100- but I installed custom cams so I had to completely change all the shims much moreso than a normal adjustment would involve.
This is exactly why its 500$ just to check the damn thing. Even if its 1000$ its worth it. Bc there is no way i will ever attempt to do this my self.
Done valve insp and adj twice on my KTM RC 390. Done them both with engine in and out of the frame. So much easier out and euro bikes like to be the odd balls with different sized diameter shims.
Yas please! MY 07 Zx6R is about 15k over due for a valve adjustment, at nearly 80k miles. This video is relevant to my interests
OC Only watch for vicarious thrills. Never adjusted valves of any kind.
To someone who might try this, always rotate the engine clockwise and never anti clockwise, it's a small detail guys at WBR missed out, but it's an important one.
This is such a tedious, confusing thing lol. God bless people like Brian. I wouldn't have the patience for something like this. Looks like one big headache
interesting that they get *TIGHTER* as they wear. that is very interesting to me
Also, I just want to add to the feeler gauges. when you put in a gauge that is on the tight side you will see the gauge kink or bend
thanks, guys for a great series I just bought an 08 600Rr too so this is perfect timing!!!
and it's to the point I think I need to send you some money for saving me soo much already.
i did my 600r engine, 09
removed the pair system blocked it off ,
put venturi stack in it plus k&n filter free the intake op , swapped the camshaft for fresh one's
fresh sparks plug , bike has a full open arrow on it
hrc radiator kit , and using 5w40 full sys 300 v motul oil
iam curious what you guys will pull out it the engine , when its finisched
I like y’all’s videos but I was really disappointed when I heard Bryan say y’all weren’t going to build the engine for more power. Oh well
OC - I adjusted the valves on my 03 Suzuki Intruder 800 last winter.
Honda always ask for 0.16 intake and 0.22 exhust 0.03 + - 🙂
as a mechanic, done many a valve inspection, adjustement and replacement. from the bucket type to the type that has a screw and locknut on a rocker arm like older bmw boxer twins. those are fun to work on, since the cilinder heads stick out the side of the bike
I didnt even notice how 44 min passed. Awesome stuff! Welcome back
Riddle:I have branches, but no fruit, trunk or leaves. What am I ?
Oc: I recently did it for my ‘88 Kawasaki GPX600R
I put it back together and it started clacking so i got go over timing again. It wasn't happening before i adjusted the valve so.
OC - This video is incredible. So simple listening to Brian just talking through it but I feel like I've learnt more in this video that I have in the last year haha! Always been tempted to do my own valve clearances but had no idea where to start! Keep 'em coming!
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This is great! Even with someone with experience still very informative
Too much talking to the camera, don't cater to day one noobs. Waste of my time listening to recaps.
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Thank you for asking all the funny and boring like questions. I thing a lot of people dont know sirtin working aspects of wat an how somthing is sopose to work or why it is there for so thank you it helps a lot to have a understanding
And there it is. The man doesn’t have any real measuring equipment. Lol
Correct me if I'm wrong but can't the compression be tested to see if the valves are withing spec?
why did you do this without showing it. there is NO camera shot of you putting this into the gap. there is no shot of you showing the position the cam lob is at. you verbalize it but you never show it. that was frustrating
See so many videos on UA-cam using ratchets to undo things, haven’t you got breaker bars for that?
I think someone is trying to copy your channel... see chasebueker!
So what would a shop charge? Do some bikes need the engine dropped to do the valve check?
I thought Kawasaki shims were 7.98mm od
OC, valves forks and tires. 3 things i dont touch.
Chase at any point are you going to be checking in on all the bike builds and how they are with the owners?
22:00 Are they talking about value clearances or 🍆 inches?
Getting ready to check the valves on my 07 600rr for the first time and this video was super helpful for describing how tight the feeler gauges should be. Thanks!
Thinking about checking my valves on my 09 rr. how many miles where on your bike and where they in spec?
OC: yes, also stripped, rebuilt carbs and balanced carbs
35:15 not true. Suzuki’s, Honda, Kawasaki and Yamaha all have 7.48mm diameter shims not 5 like he stated. (sportbikes) R1’s are 9.28m tho. Done valve adjustments on all 4. Yamaha & bmw certified tech here.
"... However, don't quote me on that - I'm shooting from the hip as I don't remember exactly"
OC! Brian mentioned a valve adjustment would be a different cost than inspection. Which makes sense is a screw type adjustment cheaper than a shim under bucket though? Can he give a brief overview of why we go to shim under bucket now?
Shim and bucket hold their adjustment a lot better. My current FZS1000 (2005) has shim and bucket and has checks done every 42000km. Usually only needs any adjustments done every second check. My old 750 Katana (1985) had screw and lock-nut, and had to be checked every 5000km. Needed adjustments done every single check. Plus with cam-shaft acting directly on the bucket, there are less moving parts, and valve opening is more accurate. Screw and lock-nut generally require a rocker arm.
What kind of gloves 🧤 are you using ??
This video is gold, I remember I couldn’t even watch wrecked bike rebuild cause it was a bunch of non sense but now I’m probably gonna come back to this for reference when I adjust my valves, came along way from the grey r6 and the yellow stang
Brian is super knowledgeable
Been binge watch all these 600rr videos.
ooh offcourse like .,,
10 credits for the vid guys
Waiting for valve adjustment vid next👌
nice gloves, where are you getting them from???
I do adjust my own valves as well and just thought I'd throw this out there about valves I've come to understand. In a well maintained engine you don't generally have wear that makes your gap larger... Valves tend to stretch so the gap "usually" gets smaller over time which is exactly what your video shows. And as you said about the tighter your gap the more the valve opens is true it also means the longer the valve stays open which also means loss of compression and eventually burnt valves if the gap gets too tight or none existent... So I'm glad you mentioned setting them in the middle of the range because I used to lean towards the tighter end of the range until I someone showed me I was robing my bike of compression and actually loading power
Loosing power not loading
You guys should make note sheet so people can write it down
OC: YES WBRG IS BAAAACK!
my heart stopped when i heard, "were taking off the oil pan" lol.
I've done car valve adjustments, but never on a bike, this is new to me and my adjustment service is coming up on my r1 can't wait to see this
OC: I'm a small engine mechanic (chainsaws, lawnmowers, tractors, etc) so I've done plenty of inspections/ adjustments on those, but its a lot simpler, just requires the turning of a nut/bolt, no replacing or removing parts needed. I'm planning on giving my bike (2009 GSX-R 600) an inspection/ adjustment in the spring so wish me luck on that haha.
Did two bikes. Complete different. Honda CBR1000f with an adjustable screw and a Suzuki gsx600 where I had to slide away the valve locker to get to the shims.
Thank you for a long format episode.
Would love to see the team take on a 2008-2014 R6 or R1, rebuild and upgrade the body to the 2015-2020 look. Especially, with Yamaha sun-setting the R6. Others have done it, but would love to see it done on WBR. So glad the channel is surviving the chaos - Nothing like a box of rocks!
Glad to see you all back. These videos are gold. Appreciate the patience neede to make these videos in lamens terms for everyone not technical to understand. This should be mainstream TV!! This is what we wanna see, keep up the good work 👍🏻🏴🏴🏴
10:13. That’s why I have a boxer!😆🤪
but how about valves tthat have the nut that can be used, could you metion that in a video
Chase's smart and acting dumb for us
Love your description of why you’re there 🤣
Welcome back Chase. We are happy to see you again. Greetings from Turkey/Istanbul.
OC - Have only done a cambelt adjustment, before automatic ones we're used! Thanks to Brian's explanation, now know why my local Yamaha dealer doesn't do major services on other bikes
OC: Once watched my dad do a valve adjustment on a 1980 Moto Morini 350 Sport, with the engine in the frame. There was a lot of swearing.
I'm already a certified tech, but I started watching before I joined MMI and learned everything Brian knows(sans experience in the field, Brian could still mechanic circles around me), but it's still a great refresher and watching Chase mess up while he's learning is what im really here for. That, and I just love working on bikes and watching bikes get worked on. Especially with bikes and parts I could never afford.
You talk to much unnecessarily
OC Love the knowledge from Brian again. Also chase thanks for asking the questions all us noobs would also ask.
I want to do a clearance check on my MT09. This has helped the understanding of it all. Thank you
I did the valves myself back when I had my Aprilia scooter. But it was a single cylinder with 2 valves. Wasn't complicated.
OC, I did a valve inspection on my '89 KLR. Its a single cylinder and very easy to work on. Thankfully it was in spec and didn't need adjustment
What’s the brand of the new lift they got?
I think brains hat should have this 🅱️ on it
FINALLY - OC - my valves are due for inspection on my monster 696, I’m definitely taking it to the shop!
I have been watching C2W for several years now.
Sad to see how those youtube algorithms and weird recommendations push down your views so much these days.
Keep up the good work. ;)