bloody brilliant! watching other formal bunkai while I enjoy that, I actually love this because of its raw nature, and it looks much more closer to what I would do in an actual fight
Kaisai no genri says "Techniques executed while advancing are offensive. Those executed while retreating are defensive." however, in geki sai we have the gedan barai retreating and it's supposed to be an attack and the chudan yoko uke advancing, in morio hygaonna's renzo bunkai those are defensive moves.
A strike done on the retreat can be seen as a defensive action. The “retreating gedan barai” done in this clip above in response to the enemy correcting their line and attempting to land a punch (explained at 3 mins). The step back and the dropping into the stance is an evasive motion. The gedan barai itself can be both block and counter strike, or direct counter strike. Either way, the motion is primarily defensive. Kaisai no genri does indeed say that "Techniques executed while advancing are offensive. Those executed while retreating are defensive." However, I would say that’s not the same as asserting “Techniques executed while advancing are STRIKES. Those executed while retreating are BLOCKS." I hope that better explains my thinking. All the best, Iain
To mess this up some more: When I trained "Nahatedo" we first learned Tachi kata and the Fukio katas, four of them, in a pattern similar to a compass rose, only two first were really required at the grading, they would be the style equivalents of the Takyo series in Shotokan. Then we went on to Gekisai Dai Ichi and Gekisai Dai Nie , to me they are the equivalents of Heian-series. (Our dojo also joined IOGKF for a while and then left, and then dropped the Fukio-series) I am curious at what kata might correspond to Saifa ... I find it very difficult to find videos of both the Tachi kata and the Fukio katas!
Iain, a question... In Kyokushin we have Gekisai Dai, which is roughly te same as Gekisai Dai Ichi, but we also have Gekisai Sho - which is not similar to Gekisai Dai Ni... Do you have any idea on the background of this kata?
That being said the Goju-Ryu looks much better in my biased opinion. By the way I'm practicing neither, I used to be shodan in Wado-Ryu but I want to switch to either Kyokushin or Goju-Ryu. I love kyokushin for the full-contact sparring and I love Goju-Ryu for its kata and bunkai I actually can't choose which style
@@jean4j_Kyokushin has all the Goju Ryu kata in addition to its own unique kata plus Shotokan kata; though on the converse Kyokushin got its sparring style from Goju Ryu, so a traditional Goju Ryu dojo ought to be training similar to Kyokushin though with less modern equipment & fewer kata.
@@kevionrogers2605 Yes it's true however the Goju-Ryu kata practiced in Kyokushin are still different. They do look more Japanese and as far as I know, they're not practiced that often, furthermore their bunkai is usually pretty supercifial. I wish Mas Oyama just kept the original Goju-Ryu kata, they are more practical. Well long story short, I'm not a big fan of Kyokushin kata haha I'm a big fan of their sparring and spirit though!
@@jean4j_ Mas Oyama studied under Gogen Yamaguchi of Goju Kai which is Japanese Goju Ryu, so its not the Okinawan version. Most Kyokushin dojo and their spinoffs either invented new kata or just do kata for drill and examinations.
bloody brilliant! watching other formal bunkai while I enjoy that, I actually love this because of its
raw nature, and it looks much more closer to what I would do in an actual fight
Best explanation I have ever seen in my life. Thanks.
Brilliant. I love the historical context and placed around katas and the deeper bunkai interpretation that what is initially taught! Thank you!
A good learning of various kattas and fine tuning of kattas are possible. My thanks and gratitudes are acknowledged herein.
Great! That's a feasible application for the kata! Thanks.
Awesome vid thank you!
Kaisai no genri says "Techniques executed while advancing are offensive. Those executed while retreating are defensive." however, in geki sai we have the gedan barai retreating and it's supposed to be an attack and the chudan yoko uke advancing, in morio hygaonna's renzo bunkai those are defensive moves.
A strike done on the retreat can be seen as a defensive action. The “retreating gedan barai” done in this clip above in response to the enemy correcting their line and attempting to land a punch (explained at 3 mins). The step back and the dropping into the stance is an evasive motion. The gedan barai itself can be both block and counter strike, or direct counter strike. Either way, the motion is primarily defensive. Kaisai no genri does indeed say that "Techniques executed while advancing are offensive. Those executed while retreating are defensive." However, I would say that’s not the same as asserting “Techniques executed while advancing are STRIKES. Those executed while retreating are BLOCKS." I hope that better explains my thinking. All the best, Iain
@@practicalkatabunkai i liked in kung fu they dont differentiate between attack and defense. Palm strikes are blocks/obstructions.
Sensei Iain, top video as always...I've also seen the double punch and pull back (at the end of the kata) as a hit, like you've done, and throw :)
To mess this up some more:
When I trained "Nahatedo" we first learned
Tachi kata and the
Fukio katas, four of them, in a pattern similar to a compass rose, only two first were really required at the grading, they would be the style equivalents of the Takyo series in Shotokan.
Then we went on to Gekisai Dai Ichi and Gekisai Dai Nie , to me they are the equivalents of Heian-series.
(Our dojo also joined IOGKF for a while and then left, and then dropped the Fukio-series)
I am curious at what kata might correspond to Saifa ...
I find it very difficult to find videos of both the Tachi kata and the Fukio katas!
Awesome
Horay for Matsubayashi-Ryu!!! :)
Forgive my ignorance, was there a reason the previous version of this vid was replaced?
I’d made a spelling error :-) So I corrected it and re-uploaded the video.
practicalkatabunkai Oh, ok, thanks for responding, I know you're a busy man.
Arigato Gozai Masu!
practicalkatabunkai your effort in these videos is really appreciated, sir.
Iain, a question... In Kyokushin we have Gekisai Dai, which is roughly te same as Gekisai Dai Ichi, but we also have Gekisai Sho - which is not similar to Gekisai Dai Ni... Do you have any idea on the background of this kata?
That being said the Goju-Ryu looks much better in my biased opinion.
By the way I'm practicing neither, I used to be shodan in Wado-Ryu but I want to switch to either Kyokushin or Goju-Ryu.
I love kyokushin for the full-contact sparring and I love Goju-Ryu for its kata and bunkai
I actually can't choose which style
@@jean4j_Kyokushin has all the Goju Ryu kata in addition to its own unique kata plus Shotokan kata; though on the converse Kyokushin got its sparring style from Goju Ryu, so a traditional Goju Ryu dojo ought to be training similar to Kyokushin though with less modern equipment & fewer kata.
@@kevionrogers2605 Yes it's true however the Goju-Ryu kata practiced in Kyokushin are still different. They do look more Japanese and as far as I know, they're not practiced that often, furthermore their bunkai is usually pretty supercifial.
I wish Mas Oyama just kept the original Goju-Ryu kata, they are more practical.
Well long story short, I'm not a big fan of Kyokushin kata haha
I'm a big fan of their sparring and spirit though!
@@jean4j_ Mas Oyama studied under Gogen Yamaguchi of Goju Kai which is Japanese Goju Ryu, so its not the Okinawan version. Most Kyokushin dojo and their spinoffs either invented new kata or just do kata for drill and examinations.
I'm convinced jodan uke comes from southern dragon fist.
Muy bien, sobre todo que no le pega al alumno
Oss sensei