This is an eye opener. It shows that there are more similarities between different martial arts systems than there are differences!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the information!!!!!!!
Great job, in the sequence of the arm bar right before the trow, you will be in front of uke and you are open to his free hand. And is correct the kata tell you to do an atemi strike before you go under the controlled arm. That atemi strike is most important or uke will hit you with his free hand. Then you go under the control arm to do the trow. In jujitsu and aikido you always do that punch to soft him off. At the begining when you nail the armbar and apply gravity to push uke to the ground uke will be out balance and his natural reaction is to regain it. Then you do the atemi strike and the trow. Super i am glad to find this video.
In the beginning. Why do you bring your arms down, if you are going to move to left and catch opponents arm? Why don’t we practise the move as they are done?
I’m not sure I understand the question. If you mean, why do the arms do a full circle back to the bottom AFTER they have been lifted, that’s the working out where the enemy is part. They move to tactically find out what side I am on - and hance what side to move to - by finding the arm and neck. If the enemy’s head was lower than shown in the video, then the arc would be bigger. A full circle in the kata ensures we keep looking (feeling really) for the head until we find it. We can then decide what the optimal action would be from the position as it. If you mean, why do the arms do a full circle back to the bottom BEFORE they have been lifted, that’s because, in combat, the hands will join from wherever they are. It would slow the response and increase the time the head is exposed to arbitrary drop, join and then crash. We therefore join and crash. Because there are an innumerable number of variations with regards to where the hands could be, the kata can’t show them all. We may as well start from the lowest position, because that’s where the hands are in the kata before joining. Kata gives us examples of concept / principles and considers the extremely fluid and variable nature of combat. As Mabuni wrote: “the ways of attacking and defending have innumerable variations. To create two-person drills containing all of the techniques including each and every one of their variations is impossible … if one practices kata correctly, it will serve as a foundation for performing - when a crucial time comes - any of the infinite number of variations.” Many of the past masters also expressed this idea. I hope that helps. All the best, Iain
It helped, thanks. I'll do an experiment. I drill with none karatekas. So I will teach them partner drill first and after it flows, I'll show the kata form. Little by little..
Its funny that after moving away from karate years ago and taking up Krav Maga one of the first techniques taught was the dive in as demonstrated by Iain at the start of this flow drill.
The hands circle at the beginning of the kata is a practice of peripheral vision. The hands should just barely be seen as the karate-ka completes the full circle, everything in katas are lessons , this beginning practice of using peripheral vision should be utilized throughout the kata, even the bow at start and the bow at the end. A state of mind during combat. Boxers, good ones, very much understand this. I will add, once the state of mind is achieved, it can become dangerous to remain in no-mind [ a combat mind}. A true karate student who has spent years in the art knows exactly what has been described
Hi Iain, I’ve been studying this drill for a couple of weeks over Christmas with a mind of including in my syllabus, do you have other drills for the rest of the Kata? Or is this the main drill you would use from it? (I am aware that your core is Pinans and Naihanchi).
Kata is to make you think of each movement applied in a self defense situation. Each practitioner should have a different blend on what fits them as an individual. Every time you see Instructors showing bunkai, or Oyo for Kata, It’s going to be what works, and not work.
There’s defiantly a need to have karate work for the individual, but kata is not a blank canvas that is open to any and all interpretation. As Itosu wrote in 1908 (my emphasis), “Learn the explanations of every movement fully, and then YOU decide how and when YOU would use them when needed.” The movements of the kata are examples of solid combative principles. We need to learn, practise, understand and internalise them as they are presented by the kata. From there, we can decide how and when we as individuals can personally best apply them. We will need to make adaptations based on our individual build, preferences and proclivities. We also need the ability to adapt to the specific circumstances of any given situation. We don’t fight with kata, bunkai or drills …we fight with the habits (i.e. internalised combative principles) the kata, bunkai and drills have engendered in us. It all starts wit the kata example though. We don’t learn what works for us (by an unidentified process) and then overlay that to the kata. The kata teaches us what works, and then we fine tune for us as individuals.
Ah, not bad. You are not toooo far from the truth. Do you really think that the early karate masters who learned from the Chinese Masters their deadly moves of Wu Shu, Kung fu and Dim mak (vital point striking) would make lame katas to practice or are they deadly techniques that were passed down from family member to family member. Just think about it! Would you as a real master, who has destructive power in each hand and foot, practice these moves and breakdowns that you practice and use in secret or your seriously deadly moves? Ask yourself, “would you make a kata with these kind of explanations or breakdowns? Would you try to use these lame explanations against multiple attackers or armed people? There must be some deeper more powerful explanations for these moves? These early karate master were so deadly that they rarely fought one another because someone was going to die. Do you think your breakdown could Kill or seriously injure someone, who is also a skilled karate fighter like you, with these kinda weak and kinda lame explanations of these kata moves? Think again, there are real hidden deadly techniques in these katas and guess what, you never learned them. Why? Because either you instructors don’t know them or they won’t teach them to you! So sad that you only learned sport karate and not the true hidden meanings of kata! Look at the bubishi and ask yourself why are there things in there that you never learned or heard of (like the six (6) Ji hands)? What are they for? It’s a book of karate what does it mean? Or look at the back of Gichin Funakoshi’s book “Karate - Do Kyohan,” and ask yourself how do I do the techniques he describes in the section on vital points of the human body. If they were not important why would he, a Karate Grandmaster and the Father of Shotokan Karate, put them in his book, for us to ignore them, I don’t think so? Dude you better dig deeper or else you would have wasted a lifetime of study in martial arts with techniques that are not even good enough for a yellow belt!
Chi, meridians, etc have no evidence to support them so I go with modern medicine when it comes to the weakness of the human body. It’s also very difficult to be accurate in the chaos of combat (very easy when students stand still wating to be hit though). Any worthwhile approach to combat need to accept the realities of combat and be grounded in demonstrable facts. I therefore have seen the pressure point based approaches and rejected them. There’s more on this in this old article I wrote: www.iainabernethy.co.uk/article/pressure-points-sceptical-examination
@@practicalkatabunkai The hell with chi and meridians, I am talking but vital areas of the body medically that can be easily proven. Not some magical chi garbage. I have studied the pressure points but I am talking about real areas of the human body that doctors can tell you really exist! Like the cardiac sinus, the femoral triangle, the floating ribs, etc, etc, etc. These are real anatomical weaknesses that are targeted in your karate kata! Not some spacey nonsense! I am talking about real target areas that the originators of the katas mapped out and put in their forms to be some of the deadliest people to walk the face of the earth! If I knew any I would sure put them in my forms and practice them, oh right I do! What about you? I am afraid not! That is why you come up with what you have done on kata breakdown. While I practice deadlier techniques that you don’t understand because you never had a master teach you!
@@practicalkatabunkai your modern approach is based on limited knowledge. If you want to truly better you art and style, then ask a doctor where is the best places to attack. They will blow your mind, and especially a trauma doctor or surgeon! They will mention areas like the femoral triangle, etc...
@@dexterbrown8332 I disagree. I see the approach you are taking as being revisionist history and less functional. I am aware of the pressure point approach, but I reject it. Not because of “limited knowledge”, but because I have examined it and rejected it for these reasons: www.iainabernethy.co.uk/article/pressure-points-sceptical-examination
This is an eye opener. It shows that there are more similarities between different martial arts systems than there are differences!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks for the information!!!!!!!
Thanks for the explication , please perform Ji in
Finally someone who's not teaching nonsense fantastic work
Everything in this video is nonsense.
@@suprememasteroftheuniverse how you figure?
First I became a fan of your book. Now this bunkai of Kanku Dai just blew my mind - just opened my eyes to new possibilities. OSU!!
Brilliant. You bring new life to the art.
Skillful manipulation of the adversary makes sense for all styles.
Abernethy Sensei, just ran across this video this evening. I really enjoy your interpretation. This is the glue of what holds us together. Thank you!
great video (as usual). I love your approach to this particular part of the kata
lol, a healthy dose of humorous sarcasm is essential to keeping it real when exploring legitimate practical applications/options in traditional kata.
Sensei Iain Abernathy's style of karate is Wado Ryu. I can determine it by his blocks. superb self defense techniques thru bunkai. Oss
Great job, in the sequence of the arm bar right before the trow, you will be in front of uke and you are open to his free hand. And is correct the kata tell you to do an atemi strike before you go under the controlled arm. That atemi strike is most important or uke will hit you with his free hand. Then you go under the control arm to do the trow. In jujitsu and aikido you always do that punch to soft him off. At the begining when you nail the armbar and apply gravity to push uke to the ground uke will be out balance and his natural reaction is to regain it. Then you do the atemi strike and the trow. Super i am glad to find this video.
You have opened my mind since I've discovered your youtube Chanel I feel like a nincompoop for making fun of Karate.
this is perfect. i could swear that you are a wing tsun man.i intent to go though all your videos. highly recommended. thanks
AMAZING bunkai!
In the beginning. Why do you bring your arms down, if you are going to move to left and catch opponents arm? Why don’t we practise the move as they are done?
I’m not sure I understand the question. If you mean, why do the arms do a full circle back to the bottom AFTER they have been lifted, that’s the working out where the enemy is part. They move to tactically find out what side I am on - and hance what side to move to - by finding the arm and neck. If the enemy’s head was lower than shown in the video, then the arc would be bigger. A full circle in the kata ensures we keep looking (feeling really) for the head until we find it. We can then decide what the optimal action would be from the position as it.
If you mean, why do the arms do a full circle back to the bottom BEFORE they have been lifted, that’s because, in combat, the hands will join from wherever they are. It would slow the response and increase the time the head is exposed to arbitrary drop, join and then crash. We therefore join and crash. Because there are an innumerable number of variations with regards to where the hands could be, the kata can’t show them all. We may as well start from the lowest position, because that’s where the hands are in the kata before joining.
Kata gives us examples of concept / principles and considers the extremely fluid and variable nature of combat. As Mabuni wrote: “the ways of attacking and defending have innumerable variations. To create two-person drills containing all of the techniques including each and every one of their variations is impossible … if one practices kata correctly, it will serve as a foundation for performing - when a crucial time comes - any of the infinite number of variations.” Many of the past masters also expressed this idea. I hope that helps. All the best, Iain
It helped, thanks. I'll do an experiment. I drill with none karatekas. So I will teach them partner drill first and after it flows, I'll show the kata form. Little by little..
Its funny that after moving away from karate years ago and taking up Krav Maga one of the first techniques taught was the dive in as demonstrated by Iain at the start of this flow drill.
This looks alot like Tony Blauer's Spear. Very cool.
Very nice - thanks for posting. GB
The hands circle at the beginning of the kata is a practice of peripheral vision. The hands should just barely be seen as the karate-ka completes the full circle, everything in katas are lessons , this beginning practice of using peripheral vision should be utilized throughout the kata, even the bow at start and the bow at the end. A state of mind during combat.
Boxers, good ones, very much understand this. I will add, once the state of mind is achieved, it can become dangerous to remain in no-mind [ a combat mind}. A true karate student who has spent years in the art knows exactly what has been described
I don't wanna mess with this man
Makes karate look useful
Excellent!!! Thank you sensei!
Great drill, thank you.
Truly insightful!
Very cool! Thanks for the post!
Love it! Great drill!
Oss, Great, Practical Bunkai and Oyo.
Very nice!
Hi Iain,
I’ve been studying this drill for a couple of weeks over Christmas with a mind of including in my syllabus, do you have other drills for the rest of the Kata? Or is this the main drill you would use from it? (I am aware that your core is Pinans and Naihanchi).
very interesting , oss
Superb :-)
Kata is to make you think of each movement applied in a self defense situation. Each practitioner should have a different blend on what fits them as an individual. Every time you see Instructors showing bunkai, or Oyo for Kata, It’s going to be what works, and not work.
There’s defiantly a need to have karate work for the individual, but kata is not a blank canvas that is open to any and all interpretation. As Itosu wrote in 1908 (my emphasis), “Learn the explanations of every movement fully, and then YOU decide how and when YOU would use them when needed.” The movements of the kata are examples of solid combative principles. We need to learn, practise, understand and internalise them as they are presented by the kata. From there, we can decide how and when we as individuals can personally best apply them. We will need to make adaptations based on our individual build, preferences and proclivities. We also need the ability to adapt to the specific circumstances of any given situation. We don’t fight with kata, bunkai or drills …we fight with the habits (i.e. internalised combative principles) the kata, bunkai and drills have engendered in us. It all starts wit the kata example though. We don’t learn what works for us (by an unidentified process) and then overlay that to the kata. The kata teaches us what works, and then we fine tune for us as individuals.
@@practicalkatabunkai Thank you for the information Sensei. I love your principles
, and applied application.
@@koden24 Thank you very much!
27 people who think they are magical beings who can defeat someone with a single punch to the stomach disliked this video!
It must disliked anyone who understands karate and martial arts
Shuri Te !
i was told a story about a cave and a bear with Kusanku
how does the story goes?
🥋👍
Ah, not bad. You are not toooo far from the truth. Do you really think that the early karate masters who learned from the Chinese Masters their deadly moves of Wu Shu, Kung fu and Dim mak (vital point striking) would make lame katas to practice or are they deadly techniques that were passed down from family member to family member. Just think about it! Would you as a real master, who has destructive power in each hand and foot, practice these moves and breakdowns that you practice and use in secret or your seriously deadly moves? Ask yourself, “would you make a kata with these kind of explanations or breakdowns? Would you try to use these lame explanations against multiple attackers or armed people? There must be some deeper more powerful explanations for these moves? These early karate master were so deadly that they rarely fought one another because someone was going to die. Do you think your breakdown could Kill or seriously injure someone, who is also a skilled karate fighter like you, with these kinda weak and kinda lame explanations of these kata moves? Think again, there are real hidden deadly techniques in these katas and guess what, you never learned them. Why? Because either you instructors don’t know them or they won’t teach them to you! So sad that you only learned sport karate and not the true hidden meanings of kata! Look at the bubishi and ask yourself why are there things in there that you never learned or heard of (like the six (6) Ji hands)? What are they for? It’s a book of karate what does it mean? Or look at the back of Gichin Funakoshi’s book “Karate - Do Kyohan,” and ask yourself how do I do the techniques he describes in the section on vital points of the human body. If they were not important why would he, a Karate Grandmaster and the Father of Shotokan Karate, put them in his book, for us to ignore them, I don’t think so? Dude you better dig deeper or else you would have wasted a lifetime of study in martial arts with techniques that are not even good enough for a yellow belt!
Chi, meridians, etc have no evidence to support them so I go with modern medicine when it comes to the weakness of the human body. It’s also very difficult to be accurate in the chaos of combat (very easy when students stand still wating to be hit though). Any worthwhile approach to combat need to accept the realities of combat and be grounded in demonstrable facts. I therefore have seen the pressure point based approaches and rejected them. There’s more on this in this old article I wrote: www.iainabernethy.co.uk/article/pressure-points-sceptical-examination
@@practicalkatabunkai The hell with chi and meridians, I am talking but vital areas of the body medically that can be easily proven. Not some magical chi garbage. I have studied the pressure points but I am talking about real areas of the human body that doctors can tell you really exist! Like the cardiac sinus, the femoral triangle, the floating ribs, etc, etc, etc. These are real anatomical weaknesses that are targeted in your karate kata! Not some spacey nonsense! I am talking about real target areas that the originators of the katas mapped out and put in their forms to be some of the deadliest people to walk the face of the earth! If I knew any I would sure put them in my forms and practice them, oh right I do! What about you? I am afraid not! That is why you come up with what you have done on kata breakdown. While I practice deadlier techniques that you don’t understand because you never had a master teach you!
@@practicalkatabunkai your modern approach is based on limited knowledge. If you want to truly better you art and style, then ask a doctor where is the best places to attack. They will blow your mind, and especially a trauma doctor or surgeon! They will mention areas like the femoral triangle, etc...
@@dexterbrown8332 I disagree. I see the approach you are taking as being revisionist history and less functional. I am aware of the pressure point approach, but I reject it. Not because of “limited knowledge”, but because I have examined it and rejected it for these reasons: www.iainabernethy.co.uk/article/pressure-points-sceptical-examination
That is your choice. I’m your friend anyhow! Maybe one day we will meet up and have this discussion over coffee. Be blessed!
You don't make sense, charlatan.