I don't care one iota about getting my bike lighter. I just really enjoy your journey towards weighing nothing, and how it is presented. These are some of my fave videos for lightening the stress on my heart. Thanks!
I am definitely not a weight weenie. Everything I spec'd for my bike build was titanium. I did have to opt for a carbon fork but mostly my bike is all metal baby. And then I also went with Dura Ace Di2. My bike is under 19 pounds but I spent over $8K and let me say it gets the looks. I'm to old for KOM's but having one of the sweetest bikes on the tarmac is another way of getting gratification.
I got a 10 year old Look 555 ($550) from ebay with some heavy pretty heavy wheels, Mavic Aksium. It had those weird 10 speed 105 levers where the shift cables come out the side so I replaced them with a 10 speed Ultegra ($80) groupset with under bartape routing. Then I changed the Gatorskin tires it had with a pair of Bontrager Hard Case Lites ($40). Now I have a 17.9 lbs bike for $670. That said I hardly ever take it out because I'm deathly afraid of getting passed by a teenager on a fat bike. Mitochondria aging is real people
There is me with heavy bike being 17.6lb max and current being 14.74lb for just £4k SRAM red 22 hydro Heavy bike is counting my future builds of mountain bike (£4k), fixie (£2k), gravel (£3k) and Trek Emonda ALR (£5.5k as SRAM red axs etap with dropper and frame £800 more expensive than current) I am looking to have over time
Well...your example is not that unrealistic. I bought a Rose Pro SL Disc 105 two years ago. I was a complete road Bike newbie. Now has lupina, darimo, ultegra/dura-ace di2, carbon wheels, bars, stem, and some other things on it. basically the only original part left is the, in comparision, quite heavy aluminium frame itself. but i really like the geometry and even the looks with all those bling components fitted to it. upgrades cost an insane amount of money compared to the original price. but hey, it rolls like a dream and i guess its the most custom and personal rose pro sl disc out there :) i also was able to build a gravelbike out of the leftover components (only needed to buy a frame and some small parts). cheers!
I share your enthusiasm and pragmatism about upgrading my bike. I suspect that if one could place a value on the joy that such activities bring to me and perhaps you as well, the benefits would far out-strip the costs.
I semi weight weenied my bike. It is fun to tinker. I kept the cost reasonable. Currently my bike is at 6.8 kg. I am happy with it, but I will likely shave off another 200-300g for fun and tinkering. Also, your videos are awesome!
You know, I have been a weight weenie for many years now, and your disclaimers are spot on....if you want to climb well, there is a middle ground, which is the additional money required to drop 1lb, spend it on trainer and app that will make you a stronger rider. But the take away for me for today is that I need to get a throne-add-on that splashes some warm droplets up the ying yang. I think I will spend my next dollars there. Any suggestions ? Seat warmer optional.
For an operations research class I put together a linear program that makes recommendations for upgrades or training to maximize speed benefit subject to budget, time and fitness constraints. It even takes into account the differential upgrade value of aero vs. weight savings based on course parameters (i.e. how hilly it is). It's not perfect but I can share it if there's interest.
@@telemarktumalo6978 That's not a bidet, it's just one of those plain Jane Japanese toilets that proves that Japan is a more advanced civilization than the rest of humanity... Saying this as a guy who spent two weeks in Japan a few years ago, I'm not Japanese.
I stopped watching at 3:45. I immediately bought a trainer and sub'd up to zwift, and hired a coach "MAKE ME CHRIS FROOME"... (hehe - if *that* is your goal, this is also a waste of money) - GO RIDE YOUR BIKE!! =) (just kidding - love your videos - your humility and sense of humor are great!)
love your intros and outros - the first seconds alone are enough for a👍. Yeah sure, thanks to the spreadsheet it's all just purely hypothetical... Not a road map at all🤣😋
Nice video but the Flexlogic is so good I wouldn't want any different one ever, it's light and ALOT more comfortable than a normal one. I have a Rose X-Lite SIX Ultegra DI2 (non-disc) and I love, it's my second Rose and they both weighed more (around that 5% mark), mine is about 7kg with pedals and bottle cages.
That intro is hilarious and it just sums up all of us a$$holes cyclists lol. We just stick to one opinion and defend it until death. I came here from google search. I laughed, i enjoyed your honest input and thank you x10 for the excel file. I can't justify to myself to give all that money at once, so i'll just take it step by step. Happy riding dear lucky human to be living in paperless Japan :)
Sorry for those mistakes that are pointed out in the video, Since I couldn't set up the shot again and didn't want to confuse things by saying one thing and have a different thing show up on screen I decided to let it stay as recorded. It has been corrected in the actual spreadsheet though. Hope you find it useful. docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nMab4F7BFTgOV_RhgN99QfIVBKrjEgcSlaRUqK86k4o/edit#gid=0 (You don't need to send me a request to edit the sheet, just select "Make a copy" from the "File" menu, or download as Excel etc.)
Is your tire weight calculation part of that? When you replace 255g by 240g there should be a weight reduction? Are inner tubes, tubeless tape and the fluid included in that calculation? (Sorry, I should have watched the following few seconds ;-) )
Your videos weirdly interest me, even though I only have a 40 year old roadbike to get around and a 16,5 kg mountainbike for fun. I guess this is a compliment.
Thanks for all your good video! In your tubeless setup you forgot the valve, no? And as you use tubeless tape in tube type mode you have also tape on the rim 🤔
Im scared to add up costs over time when upgrading. Now I know the reason why I feel this way :) But hey, upgrading bit by bit is constant enjoyment, spending less once is a headache :)
So inspiring! Where are those scales again, time to do another weigh in. 😁 Seat post is where I'm thinking I can save up to 100g @ $1 a gram... So affordable, why haven't I done it already. 🚴
Very interesting you've put a lot of work into this but there are some good tips as not everyone has the time to access weight data Look pedals are now on my shopping list and I will stop eating cakes and candy 😅
So the Rose with 105 is 2599 €. 2599€+4689$ is roughly 6900€. For 5899€ I can get a Rose X-LITE SIX DISC Dura Ace DI2 which comes in at 6.7 KG (+-5%, without pedals and cages but with deeper rims). That would leave me with a higher grade frameset with deeper rims and roughly 1000 € to spend. So maybe buying a different bike in the first place :D
Definitely, if you can start with €5900 from scratch i.e. for your initial bike. Or a bit more for a 6kg (disc brake!) bike of the shelf +.25 for pedals & cages. No name dropping here, since this were beyond the purpose of such a spreadsheet.
Thanks a lot for the display of insanity that is requierd to become a committed weight weenie. I'll keep my Sora R3000 spun, unwashed wheels spinning in the meantime. You do entertain, peace!
Ha spreadsheets! I have so many of these for each bike and build. But, heh, you forgot the guaranteed keep up on the group ride option - just buy a Creo, not cheap but guaranteed! Not light either ;-)
Luckily I’m not a weight weenie. Really I’m not ... nope. I promised myself not to be one, so I’m not. Period. That is why I just watched an entire video, focused on “hypothetical” gram savings ...
Have one of those sheets for my Look 795 Blade RS Disc. So far I have calculated that is going to cost me a pretty penny. But, hey, #socialdistancing #bored!
Since you clean your bike so often. Why not try Molten speed vax? I think of start using vax myself. Since i wash my bike each weekend and spending 80% of that time to clean the drivetrain are so hard work. What do you think?
Nice Work . Inside the mind of a sick man. Definitely wont be Chris Froome after cutting 1442g. According to Bike calc. @ 300w 70 Kg Rider 8085g bike up 10% grade for 5km should take::: 24min .17 sec.. Same inputs for 6643g Bike..... 23min 52 sec........... 25 seconds saved for $4627. 😲 Now for my 10kg all steel build.....24.49 sec. As we can see,(at the start) if your goal is to climb faster , and your body fat is above say 10%,,save the money and train the fat off, i reckon most people could lose 1.5kg in about 2 months if they tried. But if you are a sick weight weenie type then go for it , spend that $$😁 I would get a power meter instead and a training program ,raise FTP and be faster on the flats Too! as ROJ Mentioned Thanks for the spreadsheet ROJ Dude
@rides of Japan : Do you have a sheet like this for your Open U.P. that you can share? I'm looking for places to upgrade and ideas of where the biggest gains could be.
Sorry all my builds have been from scratch (frameset) so there was never a “before” weight. By you can easily copy that sheet and input your current setup and make up a dream sheet to where you want to go 👍
Uni cycling is the Weenie way forward and some Guy has just come back from his round the World record breaker so no barriers on one wheel and I guess maybe sub 3kg 😉🚴🏻
How does your hypothetical analysis look if u had just bought the frame and the parts u wanted to start. Would this it be cheaper than the whole bike and parts. I assume trying to sell your parts would be hard.
Personally I’d always buy a frame set and put together parts to my linking... the reason for this video (which I seemingly failed in emphasizing) was just to show where you could save weight if you already had a mid-range bike. Not buying a new complete bike and upgrading right away. You could argue buying a complete bike, selling the parts and put that towards the new upgrades would be more economic if you’re a good salesman.
I don't care one iota about getting my bike lighter. I just really enjoy your journey towards weighing nothing, and how it is presented. These are some of my fave videos for lightening the stress on my heart. Thanks!
the ‘hide column’ function was made with the ‘cost per gram’ column in mind
LOL such a great intro, the WC moment was fantastic
For me, this video just reinforces how good modern mid-tier priced bikes are. 👍
I am definitely not a weight weenie. Everything I spec'd for my bike build was titanium. I did have to opt for a carbon fork but mostly my bike is all metal baby. And then I also went with Dura Ace Di2. My bike is under 19 pounds but I spent over $8K and let me say it gets the looks. I'm to old for KOM's but having one of the sweetest bikes on the tarmac is another way of getting gratification.
I got a 10 year old Look 555 ($550) from ebay with some heavy pretty heavy wheels, Mavic Aksium. It had those weird 10 speed 105 levers where the shift cables come out the side so I replaced them with a 10 speed Ultegra ($80) groupset with under bartape routing. Then I changed the Gatorskin tires it had with a pair of Bontrager Hard Case Lites ($40). Now I have a 17.9 lbs bike for $670.
That said I hardly ever take it out because I'm deathly afraid of getting passed by a teenager on a fat bike. Mitochondria aging is real people
There is me with heavy bike being 17.6lb max and current being 14.74lb for just £4k SRAM red 22 hydro
Heavy bike is counting my future builds of mountain bike (£4k), fixie (£2k), gravel (£3k) and Trek Emonda ALR (£5.5k as SRAM red axs etap with dropper and frame £800 more expensive than current) I am looking to have over time
you are probably the only english speaker on youtube that can actually pronounce superghiaia correctly!!
Man, your levity in these times in therapeutic. Please keep making videos.
Well...your example is not that unrealistic. I bought a Rose Pro SL Disc 105 two years ago. I was a complete road Bike newbie.
Now has lupina, darimo, ultegra/dura-ace di2, carbon wheels, bars, stem, and some other things on it. basically the only original part left is the, in comparision, quite heavy aluminium frame itself. but i really like the geometry and even the looks with all those bling components fitted to it. upgrades cost an insane amount of money compared to the original price. but hey, it rolls like a dream and i guess its the most custom and personal rose pro sl disc out there :) i also was able to build a gravelbike out of the leftover components (only needed to buy a frame and some small parts). cheers!
Why didn't you tell us the weight?
I share your enthusiasm and pragmatism about upgrading my bike. I suspect that if one could place a value on the joy that such activities bring to me and perhaps you as well, the benefits would far out-strip the costs.
I semi weight weenied my bike. It is fun to tinker. I kept the cost reasonable. Currently my bike is at 6.8 kg. I am happy with it, but I will likely shave off another 200-300g for fun and tinkering.
Also, your videos are awesome!
Thoroughly entertaining! I love the humour in your videos.
You know, I have been a weight weenie for many years now, and your disclaimers are spot on....if you want to climb well, there is a middle ground, which is the additional money required to drop 1lb, spend it on trainer and app that will make you a stronger rider. But the take away for me for today is that I need to get a throne-add-on that splashes some warm droplets up the ying yang. I think I will spend my next dollars there. Any suggestions ? Seat warmer optional.
Ravin Premji Seat warmers come as standard ;)
For an operations research class I put together a linear program that makes recommendations for upgrades or training to maximize speed benefit subject to budget, time and fitness constraints. It even takes into account the differential upgrade value of aero vs. weight savings based on course parameters (i.e. how hilly it is). It's not perfect but I can share it if there's interest.
That look pretty awesome !
As usual...entertaining, informative and extremely well produced and presented. Thanks for making these videos.
Read the “lose weight” comment and then saw you eat a Snicker bar and hit the 👍🏻 button... your facial expression was hilarious...
In the age of coronavirus, we should all have a bidet
@@telemarktumalo6978 That's not a bidet, it's just one of those plain Jane Japanese toilets that proves that Japan is a more advanced civilization than the rest of humanity... Saying this as a guy who spent two weeks in Japan a few years ago, I'm not Japanese.
Having previously lived in Japan for 8 years, I loved the toilet skit. Keep up the great cycle work.🤣👍❤️🚴🇦🇺
Gave it the thumbs up before even hitting the 1 minute mark. Love it!
Your intros are hilereus!
😄.
Mycket kärlek från Sverige.🇸🇪.
Keep up your good work. 👍
So glad I'm not the only madman to do this !
The best intro in the history of UA-cam
Excellent info as usual. I know it seems like a big hit, but compared to running a motor vehicle, it's good value!!! I do hope you are safe and well.
Intro was brilliant 😂Loving your work 👍🏼
Awesome! Used a spreadsheet like that for over 10 years, including the cost per saved gram :D A must, for every build I do
This is great for comparison! Catching up on my RoJ library.
I stopped watching at 3:45. I immediately bought a trainer and sub'd up to zwift, and hired a coach "MAKE ME CHRIS FROOME"... (hehe - if *that* is your goal, this is also a waste of money) - GO RIDE YOUR BIKE!! =) (just kidding - love your videos - your humility and sense of humor are great!)
love your intros and outros - the first seconds alone are enough for a👍.
Yeah sure, thanks to the spreadsheet it's all just purely hypothetical...
Not a road map at all🤣😋
Your intro was epic! Finally had a good laugh in these dark times of isolation here in Belgium 🤘
Very cool and down-to-earth approach, thanks heaps!
Your channel is great! The intro was so funny!
about to embark on. bike build & found your spreadsheet useful.
cheers
Nice video but the Flexlogic is so good I wouldn't want any different one ever, it's light and ALOT more comfortable than a normal one.
I have a Rose X-Lite SIX Ultegra DI2 (non-disc) and I love, it's my second Rose and they both weighed more (around that 5% mark), mine is about 7kg with pedals and bottle cages.
hey GRX shifter is a brilliant idea. Way better than the current road version. I imagine next generation DA, Ultegra and 105 will mimic current GRX.
That intro is hilarious and it just sums up all of us a$$holes cyclists lol. We just stick to one opinion and defend it until death. I came here from google search. I laughed, i enjoyed your honest input and thank you x10 for the excel file. I can't justify to myself to give all that money at once, so i'll just take it step by step. Happy riding dear lucky human to be living in paperless Japan :)
Been doing this for a good bit now... fun to dream about it :)
This spreadsheet is actually a fantasy game on saving weight in your bike. You really should gamefy this!
Great vid, especially the intro. Classic.
makes sense, done the same, enjoyed the project. Had to spend a bit of money though
30 seconds in and I'm already cracking up.
It maybe expensive but it’s very satisfying when you put the bike on the scale 🤪
A very satisfying video. Thanks
5:33 before i buy a bike i always know what new parts i will get , a new saddle pedals and bar tape is a must
I really enjoy the video, i would love to see more details in how to pick a frame/bike to start. what are the things you look for
Awesome intro 😂 just awesome and hilarious
Sorry for those mistakes that are pointed out in the video, Since I couldn't set up the shot again and didn't want to confuse things by saying one thing and have a different thing show up on screen I decided to let it stay as recorded. It has been corrected in the actual spreadsheet though. Hope you find it useful.
docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nMab4F7BFTgOV_RhgN99QfIVBKrjEgcSlaRUqK86k4o/edit#gid=0
(You don't need to send me a request to edit the sheet, just select "Make a copy" from the "File" menu, or download as Excel etc.)
Is your tire weight calculation part of that? When you replace 255g by 240g there should be a weight reduction? Are inner tubes, tubeless tape and the fluid included in that calculation?
(Sorry, I should have watched the following few seconds ;-) )
Your videos weirdly interest me, even though I only have a 40 year old roadbike to get around and a 16,5 kg mountainbike for fun.
I guess this is a compliment.
Thanks for all your good video! In your tubeless setup you forgot the valve, no? And as you use tubeless tape in tube type mode you have also tape on the rim 🤔
Clem Shovel I did,
if you are curious how that would impact the weight, make a copy of the sheet and include a set of valve as well 👍
@@ridesofjapan Ok mate, my fault i've just watch the video. Thanks
Im scared to add up costs over time when upgrading. Now I know the reason why I feel this way :) But hey, upgrading bit by bit is constant enjoyment, spending less once is a headache :)
Awesome into. Loved it
So inspiring! Where are those scales again, time to do another weigh in. 😁 Seat post is where I'm thinking I can save up to 100g @ $1 a gram... So affordable, why haven't I done it already. 🚴
That intro deserves a sub
brilliant opening
Why am I watching this? My steel bike (64) weighs more than 13kg (Front rack, heavy, heavy bike lock...) Still, very entertaining!
Same here. Riding with mudguards, front rack, rear rack, full tool box... still happy watching this!
Awesome videos, you are hilarious !
Wait a sec... was he eating whilst laying cable... 🤢🤮
Great video mate... As always! 😎👍
Very interesting you've put a lot of work into this but there are some good tips as not everyone has the time to access weight data
Look pedals are now on my shopping list and I will stop eating cakes and candy 😅
I weighted this bike in a store and it is actually that light.
Tom Dumodin は2017のgiroditalia でレース中に体重を減らして、総合優勝した。軽量化は大事ですね。
LMFAO your intros are the best
My bike weighs 15.5 kilos, plus bottle and seatpost bag, mini pump, computer.... 😂
dig it...dig all the content...thank you
Brilliant cleaning machine - but seriously TMI 😰😱
Love your videos though 👍🤗
So that’s why there’s no hoarding of toilet paper in Japan these days!
So the Rose with 105 is 2599 €. 2599€+4689$ is roughly 6900€. For 5899€ I can get a Rose X-LITE SIX DISC Dura Ace DI2 which comes in at 6.7 KG (+-5%, without pedals and cages but with deeper rims). That would leave me with a higher grade frameset with deeper rims and roughly 1000 € to spend. So maybe buying a different bike in the first place :D
Definitely, if you can start with €5900 from scratch i.e. for your initial bike. Or a bit more for a 6kg (disc brake!) bike of the shelf +.25 for pedals & cages.
No name dropping here, since this were beyond the purpose of such a spreadsheet.
Thanks a lot for the display of insanity that is requierd to become a committed weight weenie. I'll keep my Sora R3000 spun, unwashed wheels spinning in the meantime. You do entertain, peace!
How bout Gelu intead of Berk for a saddle? Quite big savings to be made.
the DT Swiss 1750 has same hub as 1800, but with higher grade alloy, lighter and welded instead of sleeved.
What about a weekly challenge to bring some bikes under a specific weight limit? Something like a mini game or sth like that
Sram red for the win
0:41 I had to click the like button haha
Ha spreadsheets! I have so many of these for each bike and build. But, heh, you forgot the guaranteed keep up on the group ride option - just buy a Creo, not cheap but guaranteed! Not light either ;-)
Love this. Thank you
Luckily I’m not a weight weenie. Really I’m not ... nope. I promised myself not to be one, so I’m not. Period.
That is why I just watched an entire video, focused on “hypothetical” gram savings ...
Lightweight is a lifestyle 👍
Have one of those sheets for my Look 795 Blade RS Disc. So far I have calculated that is going to cost me a pretty penny. But, hey, #socialdistancing #bored!
Since you clean your bike so often. Why not try Molten speed vax?
I think of start using vax myself. Since i wash my bike each weekend and spending 80% of that time to clean the drivetrain are so hard work.
What do you think?
No full wax for me, I’ve gotten my washing routine down to a science. If you want to wash you bike less, wax is probably a good way to go though.
@@ridesofjapan: Yes i will do so. Too bad that you wont. Your video about that would have been fun to watch. 😘👍
Every gram counts! Great fun can be had with an unlimited budget.👍
Have you recovered from the 8 gram weight gain?
Ps i love di2 too 😅
Now make a video with a bike that already has a DI2 Groupset. Wouldn't that make more sense than upgrading everything?
I just did the cost per gram on my skewers, and saved 90g @ about 25p per 1g..... not bad
Thumbs up for the intro, as a recovering weight weenie I really shouldn't watch the rest ; -)
Good tip how to loose weight on your bike...get on it and ride...sorry had to day it...couldn't hold it back.
What if Cane Creek came out with a disc version of the EE brakes... 🤔
Jonathan Poon that would be awesome, but I wonder how much lighter you could actually make an hydraulic caliper 🤔
You can't change the disc rotors to 140mm on a rose X-lite. I have one. I tried. You can't.
I thought you were going to use the Snickers wrapper.
Nice Work . Inside the mind of a sick man. Definitely wont be Chris Froome after cutting 1442g.
According to Bike calc. @ 300w 70 Kg Rider 8085g bike up 10% grade for 5km should take::: 24min .17 sec..
Same inputs for 6643g Bike..... 23min 52 sec........... 25 seconds saved for $4627. 😲
Now for my 10kg all steel build.....24.49 sec.
As we can see,(at the start) if your goal is to climb faster , and your body fat is above say 10%,,save the money and train the fat off, i reckon most people could lose 1.5kg in about 2 months if they tried. But if you are a sick weight weenie type then go for it , spend that $$😁
I would get a power meter instead and a training program ,raise FTP and be faster on the flats Too! as ROJ Mentioned
Thanks for the spreadsheet ROJ Dude
Nice 👌
Sweet! Love it. 😂
The exustar epmti pedals are mire lighter than keo and mire cheaper
Well played 🧻🧻🧻 🤣👍
What was the bottle cages you mentioned at the start?
That would be the Arundle Mandible cage
I would love to see an episode calculating everything you have spent on bikes 🤣
Expensive single speed upgrade - or did you forget the Di2 battery ? :-)
13:00 😉
@rides of Japan : Do you have a sheet like this for your Open U.P. that you can share? I'm looking for places to upgrade and ideas of where the biggest gains could be.
Sorry all my builds have been from scratch (frameset) so there was never a “before” weight.
By you can easily copy that sheet and input your current setup and make up a dream sheet to where you want to go 👍
Thank-you for the response! Understand there is no before weight, but do you have a spreadsheet with your current component list and measured weights?
Sorry, I don’t unfortunately (and surprisingly 😅)
All totally reasonable and justifiable in my opinion.... Oops just said this out loud within earshot of the wife. Help me................!!!!!!!!!!!!
Uni cycling is the Weenie way forward and some Guy has just come back from his round the World record breaker so no barriers on one wheel and I guess maybe sub 3kg 😉🚴🏻
I always see that cool LED wheel light on the wall. Is it battery operated? Did you build it? It is cool!
It’s USB powered... on of those cheap rgb strips that you can find on amazon
How does your hypothetical analysis look if u had just bought the frame and the parts u wanted to start. Would this it be cheaper than the whole bike and parts. I assume trying to sell your parts would be hard.
Paying 4600 for the parts and 4000 for a new frame would be ok for some. Right?
Personally I’d always buy a frame set and put together parts to my linking... the reason for this video (which I seemingly failed in emphasizing) was just to show where you could save weight if you already had a mid-range bike. Not buying a new complete bike and upgrading right away.
You could argue buying a complete bike, selling the parts and put that towards the new upgrades would be more economic if you’re a good salesman.
@@ridesofjapan love your work. Just providing a comment.
Good video. I don't think that a disc brake 105 bike is 7.4kg. Sounds too good to be true. Probably over 8kg.
i would love to watch you talking in Japanese in your video! (with the correct English subtitle of course..)
Long term review open Up frame? Good things and things to improve? 😬 Pleeeasee
ua-cam.com/video/TZ5H1vGqhFY/v-deo.html
Hi if you buy more expensive option of rose you will have di2 for 3300
Afaik you can also call them and ask for other options.
When will start drilling your parts to save even more weight?
I will leave that to the pro's