200 shows! Back in 2017 I walked away from Doctor Who as it was not for me anymore and I packed all my collection into the loft and went cold turkey for a few years. Then lockdown occurred and I retrieved my DVD's , watched the Troughton era and realised I still loved the show. I went online to discover if anyone else felt the same way I did. One afternoon I found Type 40 full of balanced like minded people , no longer did I feel like a voice in the dark, thank you all so much. Here's to another 200 shows.
Great show as always everyone and a huge congratulations for 200 awesome shows. Regarding the show's third series. I'd rest it for a few years, bring in brand new writers, a brand new actor, and hit the ground running like they did with the 9th Doctor in Rose.
Very many thanks, as always, Dan, Charlotte, Simon, Matt, Jon and Ian, for another great show. And thanks also to all your panelists and contributors over the previous 199 shows. Where would we be without UA-cam's flagship Doctor Who show? You've certainly kept my spirits high and maintained my interest in the show through the past years' choppy seas. At the helm, Captain Dan, steering a steady course to inform, educate and entertain, through news, analysis, speculation, debate, and fun. And by his side, First Mate Simon, cheering the crew with charts of earlier voyages to fondly remembered destinations. If I have one small suggestion to make to improve the show, it would be for Charlotte to have a button to press in front of her that lights up a little flashing red light on Dan's desk, reminding him when it's 10pm and time for bed. Genuinely, it's a joy spending two hours plus with my friends on Type 40 Live, the panelists and everyone in the chat. My very many thanks, once again.
Thanks and congratulations Dan and old timey panel. I've watched every show and thoroughly recommend them all. Great to see Jon and Poppy back. We miss our Sarah.
Quite the time for milestones, the anniversary of Tom's debut last month, and that for Jon Pertwee's in the current one, with Type 40's 200th instalment by no means out of place alongside them. Heartfelt congratulations for providing such a necessary, meaningful diversion from the adversity in which our show has found itself. I genuinely like Death in Paradise. As one well-chosen lead has followed another, I've also made inevitable comparisons with Doctor Who; extending on this, I harbour a wish for there to be a multi-detective edition, in which all the different 'incarnations' cooperate to solve a particularly challenging murder! Not to be churlish, but, whilst thrilled about Tom Baker's MBE, it should be a knighthood. He's served his industry, and community, in manifold ways, to say nothing of long been viewed one of our foremost national treasures. Outside of Doctor Who, my favourite role of his was Captain Redbeard Rum, in Blackadder. Rowan Atkinson was deeply concerned about Baker getting all the laughs and upstaging him, to the extent that he took him aside to remind him who was the star; only one star of that particular episode! Anne Reid was subtly unsettling in The Curse of Fenric, and overtly so in her equally memorable appearance in Smith and Jones; some people are just born to be great support in Doctor Who. The first Diary of 2025 was a typically unmissable edition. Ark in Space was a little cerebral for me at the time, coming immediately after the excellent, but more formulaic Robot; nevertheless, I still found it eminently watchable, being genuinely invested in the plight of the crew of both the Tardis, and Nerva Beacon. I love all multi Doctor stories, but have always preferred The Three Doctors. I vividly remember my mother, in 1975, telling me that Doctor Who had died, quickly assuaging my horror at the 'loss' of Tom, by explaining that she meant the 'first' Doctor. The sense of occasion failed to occur to me at the time; indeed, it fell upon Target Books, The Five Faces of Doctor Who, and untold nineties VHS releases to impress upon me the true meaning of such a loss, but I got to appreciate it in the end. So very fitting that he ended his career in the role for which he was most loved, and wonderful that he was treated so well upon his brief return. Despite being among those who felt that Paul McGann was unfairly supplanted by John Hurt, I never resented the latter, having come to greatly admire him over the years. He gave his typical best to the role, making his version intriguing and unique, and I've actually come to value the character far more than I thought was possible. The lengthy suppression of the AAI figures, rather than their actual value, speaks to a failing showrunner unwilling/unable to face reality; furthermore, they serve as a reminder that this show belongs to us fans, that our opinion will eventually be heard and made to count; lest there be any doubt of this, consider the contrivances and dissembling involving ratings and poor reviews, the defensiveness and petulance. Fear of our criticism provoked this, and our approval, or lack thereof, will always be the true metric for Doctor Who's success. As someone who has listened to countless interviews with Christopher Benjamin on the Jago and Litefoot Big Finish audios, I can attest that they are compelling evidence of both his (and Trevor Baxter's) love for their iconic creations, and their pleasure at being given another chance to play them; quite right too, becoming as they have, of equal importance to the show as The Talons of Weng Chiang itself! Rest in peace, Christopher, and thank you so much. Many thanks, Dan, Charlotte, Simon, Ian, and Jon, for so generously, and enjoyably, celebrating your 200th with us. All the best for now. Paul
Disney and RTD will be gone, and the show will disappear for maybe three years.They'll be no regeneration so, in theory, Gatwa will remain the Doctor, though he'll never be seen in the role again, thankfully.
I can't say I'm satisfied by Dan's breaking news. I would rather that Disney had stayed in the picture and Russell and Ncuti were gone. Russell's out of ideas, running on fumes. And despite early promise, Ncuti has not proved popular. As was covered in an earlier show, that's not been entirely his fault; he's put his trust in those who ought to know how best to make Doctor Who, when his own approach, if only his own ideas for a costume, could well have proved far more popular with the fans and general audience alike. Is it possible that something more traditional might be delivered in Season Three? By which I mean stronger stories, more intelligent stories, scarier stories, as opposed to the tired and lightweight approach of Season One and presumably also Season Two. Surely this time those in charge will realise their mistakes and do something different. But then that seemed the logical course during the previous era. Although I suppose the BBC thought that by hiring Russell and bringing in Bad Wolf the winning formula was assured. I do wonder if Bad Wolf tried to deliver what they thought Disney wanted, but Disney didn't want that at all, they wanted something else, and expected far better from the great Russell T Davies. Again, a lot of trust was put in his ability, understandably so considering his earlier success. For a new streaming partner to invest, I would expect that the whole show will have to be analysed, from the recent episodes right through back to the very beginning, to decide what works and what doesn't, to define what makes good Doctor Who. It can't be yet more of the same from Bad Wolf, following the same 2005 format. The whole thing needs taking apart, every piece examining, and then putting back together again, discarding what isn't needed. I can't see Russell being able to do that, though; new talent needs to be brought in to look at Doctor Who, present and past, through fresh eyes. If Ncuti's Doctor could be written differently, so that he is more like the character that we know and love, in a less outlandish set of costumes, then he might, finally, win the fans and public around. It is possible. While there's life there's hope. But I'm sure to be grumbling away in the live chat expecting more of the same until that finally happens.
Congratulations on the 200th show, Dan and the guys. Jon saying that Death to the Daleks was his first video cassette he bought, funnily enough it was mine as well, along with the Dominators and The Five Doctors (They were Christmas presents in 1987, which is when I first started watching the show). Regarding Ncuti Gatwa, I wonder if it's another Christopher Eccleston situation because you mentioned the culture behind the scenes. I have a feeling that Ncuti wanted to play the Doctor very differently from what he's been told to by Russell, because why would he come to Doctor Who and play a similar character to the one he played on Sex Education. Surely he'd want to test himself and play against type, because all he seems to be doing is playing a camp, gay man. I think the only times that Ncuti felt like the Doctor to me were in The Church on Ruby Road and The Legend of Ruby Sunday.
thank you David! - you have to wonder, don't you? Few of us are what you'd call "Ncuti fans" but if enough people say versions of the same thing. And over two decades? One has to consider which are the key, common factors.
If Disney are gone, I wonder if Netflix could take it on as they have done with the recent Wallace and Grommit film. Also didn't Netflix have the rights to all of the nu-who back catalogue? Is that still the case?
Where might the next 200 shows take us? Could that be a topic for a future show? What might Doctor Who be like by show 400? I understand that there are too many variables to make any confident predictions. But how and in what form would we like Doctor Who to be by show 400?
There is no way the bbc can afford the show on its own without a streamer, just today they put out a warning to the culture commitie that several commisioned productions are paused because deep pocketed streaming backers have pulled out, we will get nothing but game shows for a number of months, you are more likely to get a doctor who themed quiz than doctor who itself
My continuing issue/concern, is that if Doctor Who is "rested" (as some fans keep hoping it will), it won't come back for a very long time, if at all. I mean when it was put on "hiatus" in 1989, Doctor Who was popular with the fans. But Doctor Who in 2025 is a very damaged brand with a fractured fandom; and AAI figures that are as many as 26 points lower than during the original RTD era. So I would rather RTD2 be forced to redress what he's done; then hand things over to somebody who will bring back the 25 minute, multi-part story format (which would suit shorter attention-spans) and has no connection whatsoever to RTD2, Moffat 2.0 or Chibbers.
I’m not surprised in the slightest it’s just a shame it had to come to this instead of them actually trying to do what’s best for the show rather them push their agenda
Yeah - it's not something we enjoy! Presenting information we've received of this nature. Naturally we hope things turn around sooner rather than later. And if there's no way forward with Disney, internationally? Another solution could be found. There's still time, but as I would like to hope we made clear on the show: the window is closing. No one wants a Christmas without a Doctor Who special on Christmas Day: NO ONE. But as of this time, it's looking unlikely there'll be one.
The implication there is that fans are never, in reality, in the know? Which is plain silly. Some "fans" are very, very well placed. And as you'd expect they're the most tight lipped. We make no generalisations. Viewers or listeners come to us in the same way they would any content creator, anywhere. They take what we say; have said in the spirit it's offered. And judge based on our history in this area. Type 40 LIVE brought our viewers the full, accurate details on the close out of the Whittaker and Chibnall era, exactly as it played out. To the letter. Well over a year before official outlets. Weigh up the likelihood that our sources are reliable based on that track record. Or don't. Doesn't bother any of us remotely. Have a great weekend.
This was obviously broadcast before the announcement of the writers for the coming season, which includes the loathsome Juno Dawson. Well, it's written and recorded now, so the di is cast, and 'Season Two' will be the end, for several years at least. Good. Bring on the Wilderness Years 2.0.
How did Khan get a knighthood, and Tom gets a MBE. That stinks. Khan's has done one good thing. Star Trek Wrath of Khan. Oh. Hold on. Wrong Khan. I like that Khan.
200 shows! Back in 2017 I walked away from Doctor Who as it was not for me anymore and I packed all my collection into the loft and went cold turkey for a few years. Then lockdown occurred and I retrieved my DVD's , watched the Troughton era and realised I still loved the show. I went online to discover if anyone else felt the same way I did. One afternoon I found Type 40 full of balanced like minded people , no longer did I feel like a voice in the dark, thank you all so much. Here's to another 200 shows.
Thank you Lee! Yes, those early afternoon shows. They were uncertain times but we laughed where we could eh.
Thank you for Type 40 LIVE...
Great show as always everyone and a huge congratulations for 200 awesome shows.
Regarding the show's third series. I'd rest it for a few years, bring in brand new writers, a brand new actor, and hit the ground running like they did with the 9th Doctor in Rose.
Very many thanks, as always, Dan, Charlotte, Simon, Matt, Jon and Ian, for another great show.
And thanks also to all your panelists and contributors over the previous 199 shows.
Where would we be without UA-cam's flagship Doctor Who show? You've certainly kept my spirits high and maintained my interest in the show through the past years' choppy seas. At the helm, Captain Dan, steering a steady course to inform, educate and entertain, through news, analysis, speculation, debate, and fun. And by his side, First Mate Simon, cheering the crew with charts of earlier voyages to fondly remembered destinations.
If I have one small suggestion to make to improve the show, it would be for Charlotte to have a button to press in front of her that lights up a little flashing red light on Dan's desk, reminding him when it's 10pm and time for bed.
Genuinely, it's a joy spending two hours plus with my friends on Type 40 Live, the panelists and everyone in the chat. My very many thanks, once again.
Thanks and congratulations Dan and old timey panel. I've watched every show and thoroughly recommend them all. Great to see Jon and Poppy back. We miss our Sarah.
Yes, we all miss Sarah loads too. Catch her on some of the recent podcasts and Extras though Lex.
Happy 200th 😊.
Thank you Joshua!
Quite the time for milestones, the anniversary of Tom's debut last month, and that for Jon Pertwee's in the current one, with Type 40's 200th instalment by no means out of place alongside them. Heartfelt congratulations for providing such a necessary, meaningful diversion from the adversity in which our show has found itself.
I genuinely like Death in Paradise. As one well-chosen lead has followed another, I've also made inevitable comparisons with Doctor Who; extending on this, I harbour a wish for there to be a multi-detective edition, in which all the different 'incarnations' cooperate to solve a particularly challenging murder!
Not to be churlish, but, whilst thrilled about Tom Baker's MBE, it should be a knighthood. He's served his industry, and community, in manifold ways, to say nothing of long been viewed one of our foremost national treasures.
Outside of Doctor Who, my favourite role of his was Captain Redbeard Rum, in Blackadder. Rowan Atkinson was deeply concerned about Baker getting all the laughs and upstaging him, to the extent that he took him aside to remind him who was the star; only one star of that particular episode!
Anne Reid was subtly unsettling in The Curse of Fenric, and overtly so in her equally memorable appearance in Smith and Jones; some people are just born to be great support in Doctor Who.
The first Diary of 2025 was a typically unmissable edition. Ark in Space was a little cerebral for me at the time, coming immediately after the excellent, but more formulaic Robot; nevertheless, I still found it eminently watchable, being genuinely invested in the plight of the crew of both the Tardis, and Nerva Beacon.
I love all multi Doctor stories, but have always preferred The Three Doctors. I vividly remember my mother, in 1975, telling me that Doctor Who had died, quickly assuaging my horror at the 'loss' of Tom, by explaining that she meant the 'first' Doctor. The sense of occasion failed to occur to me at the time; indeed, it fell upon Target Books, The Five Faces of Doctor Who, and untold nineties VHS releases to impress upon me the true meaning of such a loss, but I got to appreciate it in the end.
So very fitting that he ended his career in the role for which he was most loved, and wonderful that he was treated so well upon his brief return.
Despite being among those who felt that Paul McGann was unfairly supplanted by John Hurt, I never resented the latter, having come to greatly admire him over the years. He gave his typical best to the role, making his version intriguing and unique, and I've actually come to value the character far more than I thought was possible.
The lengthy suppression of the AAI figures, rather than their actual value, speaks to a failing showrunner unwilling/unable to face reality; furthermore, they serve as a reminder that this show belongs to us fans, that our opinion will eventually be heard and made to count; lest there be any doubt of this, consider the contrivances and dissembling involving ratings and poor reviews, the defensiveness and petulance. Fear of our criticism provoked this, and our approval, or lack thereof, will always be the true metric for Doctor Who's success.
As someone who has listened to countless interviews with Christopher Benjamin on the Jago and Litefoot Big Finish audios, I can attest that they are compelling evidence of both his (and Trevor Baxter's) love for their iconic creations, and their pleasure at being given another chance to play them; quite right too, becoming as they have, of equal importance to the show as The Talons of Weng Chiang itself! Rest in peace, Christopher, and thank you so much.
Many thanks, Dan, Charlotte, Simon, Ian, and Jon, for so generously, and enjoyably, celebrating your 200th with us. All the best for now.
Paul
Disney gone, and Gatwa gone, music to my ears!
Meaningless if Davies is still there. He cast Gatwa and he'll cast another wholly unsuitable self-insert to replace him. The whole lot need to go.
That wasn't what we said. DISNEY are gone; they're out.
Not the actor.
Can't stress this enough to anyone reading: please watch the show to get the breakdown on what sources have told us.
Disney and RTD will be gone, and the show will disappear for maybe three years.They'll be no regeneration so, in theory, Gatwa will remain the Doctor, though he'll never be seen in the role again, thankfully.
I can't say I'm satisfied by Dan's breaking news. I would rather that Disney had stayed in the picture and Russell and Ncuti were gone. Russell's out of ideas, running on fumes. And despite early promise, Ncuti has not proved popular. As was covered in an earlier show, that's not been entirely his fault; he's put his trust in those who ought to know how best to make Doctor Who, when his own approach, if only his own ideas for a costume, could well have proved far more popular with the fans and general audience alike.
Is it possible that something more traditional might be delivered in Season Three? By which I mean stronger stories, more intelligent stories, scarier stories, as opposed to the tired and lightweight approach of Season One and presumably also Season Two. Surely this time those in charge will realise their mistakes and do something different. But then that seemed the logical course during the previous era. Although I suppose the BBC thought that by hiring Russell and bringing in Bad Wolf the winning formula was assured.
I do wonder if Bad Wolf tried to deliver what they thought Disney wanted, but Disney didn't want that at all, they wanted something else, and expected far better from the great Russell T Davies. Again, a lot of trust was put in his ability, understandably so considering his earlier success.
For a new streaming partner to invest, I would expect that the whole show will have to be analysed, from the recent episodes right through back to the very beginning, to decide what works and what doesn't, to define what makes good Doctor Who. It can't be yet more of the same from Bad Wolf, following the same 2005 format. The whole thing needs taking apart, every piece examining, and then putting back together again, discarding what isn't needed. I can't see Russell being able to do that, though; new talent needs to be brought in to look at Doctor Who, present and past, through fresh eyes.
If Ncuti's Doctor could be written differently, so that he is more like the character that we know and love, in a less outlandish set of costumes, then he might, finally, win the fans and public around. It is possible. While there's life there's hope. But I'm sure to be grumbling away in the live chat expecting more of the same until that finally happens.
Congratulations on the 200th show, Dan and the guys. Jon saying that Death to the Daleks was his first video cassette he bought, funnily enough it was mine as well, along with the Dominators and The Five Doctors (They were Christmas presents in 1987, which is when I first started watching the show).
Regarding Ncuti Gatwa, I wonder if it's another Christopher Eccleston situation because you mentioned the culture behind the scenes. I have a feeling that Ncuti wanted to play the Doctor very differently from what he's been told to by Russell, because why would he come to Doctor Who and play a similar character to the one he played on Sex Education. Surely he'd want to test himself and play against type, because all he seems to be doing is playing a camp, gay man. I think the only times that Ncuti felt like the Doctor to me were in The Church on Ruby Road and The Legend of Ruby Sunday.
thank you David! - you have to wonder, don't you? Few of us are what you'd call "Ncuti fans" but if enough people say versions of the same thing. And over two decades? One has to consider which are the key, common factors.
and yes, I would agree. We were talking some more, after the show about his Doctor(s)
If Disney are gone, I wonder if Netflix could take it on as they have done with the recent Wallace and Grommit film. Also didn't Netflix have the rights to all of the nu-who back catalogue? Is that still the case?
No, Netflix had international streaming rights on NEW DW for a few years. But that's not the case for quite a long time now.
@type40doctorwho Oh, I didn't know that, Dan. Who owns the streaming rights to nu-who now then?
Where might the next 200 shows take us? Could that be a topic for a future show? What might Doctor Who be like by show 400? I understand that there are too many variables to make any confident predictions. But how and in what form would we like Doctor Who to be by show 400?
Rtd wasn’t the man I thought he was he has really let the real fans down and himself
I share a lot of this sentiment.
Dan
Congratulations on your 200th
Thank you so much!!!!
There is no way the bbc can afford the show on its own without a streamer, just today they put out a warning to the culture commitie that several commisioned productions are paused because deep pocketed streaming backers have pulled out, we will get nothing but game shows for a number of months, you are more likely to get a doctor who themed quiz than doctor who itself
My continuing issue/concern, is that if Doctor Who is "rested" (as some fans keep hoping it will), it won't come back for a very long time, if at all. I mean when it was put on "hiatus" in 1989, Doctor Who was popular with the fans. But Doctor Who in 2025 is a very damaged brand with a fractured fandom; and AAI figures that are as many as 26 points lower than during the original RTD era. So I would rather RTD2 be forced to redress what he's done; then hand things over to somebody who will bring back the 25 minute, multi-part story format (which would suit shorter attention-spans) and has no connection whatsoever to RTD2, Moffat 2.0 or Chibbers.
I’m not surprised in the slightest it’s just a shame it had to come to this instead of them actually trying to do what’s best for the show rather them push their agenda
Yeah - it's not something we enjoy! Presenting information we've received of this nature. Naturally we hope things turn around sooner rather than later. And if there's no way forward with Disney, internationally? Another solution could be found.
There's still time, but as I would like to hope we made clear on the show: the window is closing. No one wants a Christmas without a Doctor Who special on Christmas Day: NO ONE. But as of this time, it's looking unlikely there'll be one.
Not impossible.
(For those not paying attention)
Just less and less likely, as the weeks and months tick by.
Sarah Lancashire is amazing as Julia Child on the US MAX show "Julia".
No heard of that one!
I love how fans like to appear that they are "in the know" but in reality they know no more than the rest of us!!!!
The implication there is that fans are never, in reality, in the know?
Which is plain silly. Some "fans" are very, very well placed. And as you'd expect they're the most tight lipped.
We make no generalisations. Viewers or listeners come to us in the same way they would any content creator, anywhere. They take what we say; have said in the spirit it's offered. And judge based on our history in this area.
Type 40 LIVE brought our viewers the full, accurate details on the close out of the Whittaker and Chibnall era, exactly as it played out. To the letter. Well over a year before official outlets. Weigh up the likelihood that our sources are reliable based on that track record.
Or don't.
Doesn't bother any of us remotely. Have a great weekend.
This was obviously broadcast before the announcement of the writers for the coming season, which includes the loathsome Juno Dawson. Well, it's written and recorded now, so the di is cast, and 'Season Two' will be the end, for several years at least. Good. Bring on the Wilderness Years 2.0.
How did Khan get a knighthood, and Tom gets a MBE. That stinks. Khan's has done one good thing. Star Trek Wrath of Khan. Oh. Hold on. Wrong Khan. I like that Khan.
Good point!