Totally agreed. My thoughts exactly. Since no reply after the first complaint, keep the emails going until you get a response. Awesome thing that you had it all on dashcam for evidence. I was cringing from watching it. Viewer discretion was definitely advised in this one.
@@nino__akl Yeah, I really should have sent them this video asap. I was so convinced that there was nothing they could've really done/would do, combined with how uncomfortable of an experience it was, I just wanted to put it behind me. That's not the right thing to do, but I hope it's understandable 😔
In the age of equality this was sexual harassment and should have been dealt with as such. If a straight guy had done this to a female driver he’d be in deep crap.
Oh. Jesus. I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, man. Some people just don't know how to shut up or take no for an answer. That conversation was beyond inappropriate. I was amazed how you were able to stay calm through the whole thing.
@@SaltySeattleCyclistYou are way too nice and patient with this creep. If I was the Uber driver, I would have canceled the ride immediately when he started talking to you about sex at 3:16 into this video. Hence, I would have canceled the ride even earlier at 2:47 when he said that he wanted to sleep with you. I would have told him that I am canceling the ride because I don't feel comfortable taking him. I can't believe you had the patience to put up with this fool for over 20 minutes.
Next time don't even bother in conversation that makes you feel uncomfortable. Try and change the subject. Don't go along and share personal information about the uncomfortable topic. If it persist let them know your uncomfortable and end the trip.
@@SaltySeattleCyclist don't stoop so low because of me or anyone else. If you can add it, it's good. Now, if it doesn't, there's no problem, because you can wait.
@@gabriel_issao Stooping low? What are you talking about?? It's an honor and a privilege to make them for you and everyone else who benefits from them!
Thank you 🙏 My level of patience is usually a benefit, but here it combined with my anxiety and made me more patient than I should have been, out of fear of conflict. Talk about eye-opening though! Men are garbage 👎
If that was me I would've flipped out, that's just so creepy, I would've been like let's rush this guy to his house as soon as possible and floor it out of there asap!! He's insane to think those questions are fine
Im a taxi driver in London and i have experienced this too from men, im a straight guy. It proper sucks , but if one reacts then your classed as homophobic. I have had women hit on me too, but with them its much more subtle but you kinda know you're getting hit on when the conversation goes way deeper than just surface chat. I don't like to mix business with pleasure, so i do appreciate when ppl who do chat just keep things on the surface Surface chat - is when they just talk about current events in news or whatever, the weather, traffic, they say they have a bf or husband without you asking. Convo moves slower , quite big gaps in conversion Deeper convos - they ask more personal questions, they say they're single without you asking, they say they live alone . Some even straight out say you're attractive. Etc Convo seems to move at like a 100mph and no gaps to even speak yourself 😂
"but if one reacts then your classed as homophobic" You can set boundaries with another human in the average western society and not get "classed as homophobic", however if you have a constant victim complex that you would for doing so, it's going to get exponentially more complicated.
@@bushusky How would that mean he has a victim complex? Gay men often harrass straight men sexually. Their community is oversexualized already with each other but for some reason tehy get a sick turn on by going after straight men. Everything we say these days is taken as homophobic. 20 years ago they would have to hide their sexuality. Now we have chose to accept them into society, we've overindulged them to the extent that they are so entitled. The man said he was straight ten times but the gay guy continued to sexual harrass him. If the guy was anymore firm, he would be considered homophobic. Stop making excuses for these people
I watched this, this morning. I remember you letting me know about this after it happened. I have felt sick to my stomach most of the day. I want to make a comment but don’t know what to say. I’m glad you are sharing this, I know it was hard to revisit this incident. There’s something not right about that guy. He should be banned from ride share platforms and a lot of other things. I would follow up with lyft to see how they handled it.
I’m so sorry you experienced this, how terrifying. That’s why I could never be a rude share driver (especially as a woman) I’m glad you got out of that!
Yeahh I don't know how women continue to get up and go out into the world every day with how men treat them. This sure was eye-opening to how that feels! Thankfully, out of well over 7000 rides that I've given, this was only one of a very small number of rides that ever made me feel uncomfortable and/or unsafe. But you sure do remember those bad ones! 😵💫
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I appreciate you being able to empathize with women regarding this type of situation. Recently, I had a male friend say, "it sure seems like you worry about being murdered a lot." Kind of funny, but sadly, kind of true. I don't feel especially vulnerable or have a victim mentality. It's not really about me, it's that some people are odd ducks and some are just depraved. Often, you have only seconds to decide which you're dealing with. So many violent crimes against women and children are crimes of opportunity. So we are told to be aware at all times. Be vigilant in a way that I don't think many men know is happening. You learn to park under light posts in the store parking lot. Check to see if anyone is in your back seat before getting back in your car. Don't park next to vans with sliding doors because the door could open and you could be pulled in in a blink of an eye and no one would notice - even in broad daylight. Do you think I want to have to be on high alert when I go jogging? Would I rather have earbuds in and be listening to music while running? Yes, but that makes me less aware of my surroundings, so I don't do it. Do you think I want to be on high alert because a weird man just got in the elevator with me, is standing unnervingly close and wants to make conversation? I can't simply say, I don't feel like talking to you guy. You have to humor people in these scenarios ("fawn" response) for fear of making a man that's unknown to you mad or inciting violence. We are taught to "Use the buddy system" when you walk home from a party or bar at night. I don't like being involuntarily thrown into "fight or flight" mode because I'm alone in a parking garage and a male figure walks out of the dark towards me. It's not fun for us I promise you. It's engrained in most women from childhood- "Listen when your intuition is telling you that you're in a dangerous situation". To do that, you always have to be listening/on alert. That's sad. Many women also have the extra hurdle of being taught to "be nice" and they are afraid to be rude, mean, or "hurt someone's feelings", when interacting with a person who makes them feel unsure or unsafe. That can be especially true when a man is ostensibly being nice or helpful - like the guy that offers to help carry your groceries into your apartment. Of course I don't think I should let a random dude into my building, let alone my apartment. It's difficult for a lot of women to adamantly decline in the moment when you're taken off guard and someone is pushing to be "helpful" and not taking the hint or listening to your words when you politely say no thank you. I know these feelings AREN'T exclusive to women and that men are also victims of sexual harassment and violent crimes. I was just taken aback when my male friend would so easily be willing to put himself in a situation that would be a total red flag to every woman. Anyway, I appreciated your acknowledgment. Sometimes it's just nice to be "seen". To the majority of men, who I know are the good guys, you can also help by taking notice when you see a person in a vulnerable situation. Stand by in case things go sideways. Sometimes just your presence could deter a creep from being creepy. I've rambled on here. Clearly, I was a bit triggered by seeing @SaltySeattleCyclist being spoken to in this way as well as being touched. It was strangely enlightening to see a male in this type of situation. Thanks for posting and stay safe out there! :)
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I want to add that I'm very sorry this happened to you. Even though you may have been unsure of what to do at times, whatever you did, you did right because you were able to get out of the situation safely. Physically unharmed at least.
damn this was hard to watch incredible job on how you handled it man guys an total creep, I've had a similar experience myself and its honestly just disturbing glad everything's alright buddy could've gone a bad way
It is not cool that you had to go through that. I have to say you have more self-control than most people on the planet. I don't think I could have done what you did and kept myself. Regulated. The way you did so hats off to you but I'm still not happy that you had to be put through that total disrespect.
Ew. Some people use the gay card to be creeps. And some people take "no" as a challenge, almost like they think you're just playing hard to get. Women have done this to me a lot, fortunately not any guys. I completely understand why you felt the need to placate him and act like he was just offering chocolate, because it's a gross and deeply unsettling position to find oneself in. Sorry this happened, mate. Just remember: your gender doesn't invalidate how violating this is, no matter what anyone says. And you didn't bring this on yourself, nothing you did was your fault. Thanks for sharing your story. Stay safe.
I’m really sorry that happened. The fact that you even had to consider smashing your car to be in relative safety is terrible. And yeah, good job pointing out that women go through this more times than anyone can count.
I would have had this guy out of my car by now! Does he not understand that this guy is straight and he is not interested? Good grief! The driver has the patience of a saint!
I am so sorry that happened to you. You handled it like a pro. Next time, save your self. Its not worth it to drive like that. You could have easily dumped him off some place and the other account still would not have been jeopardized. Stay safe out there!
I totally agree! That was certainly circulating through my head the whole time. When it comes to fight-or-flight moments, my brain takes the "freeze" response...thanks, massive anxiety and learned behaviors stemming from an overbearing childhood environment!
I drove probably 6-7000 rideshare trips when I was a driver, this guy was by far the one that made me feel the most uncomfortable/unsafe. I think I took one more ride that day and just went home to unload the stress
Same thing happened to me .. this lady got behind my seat n started flirting with me n I kept saying I’m married n all n .. she even went hands on n saying she’s a professional massager n started to touch my shoulders n lower back n I kept pulling away .. n left her business card if I needed a late night massage later that night
So Scary!! I am glad you are safe and I am sorry you had to endure that. He was probably harassing someone else when the good samaritan got him and Uber. And, not to defend the creep and his actions, he is lucky he got someone like you who stayed calm during the harassment. Things could have needed up a lot worse for that guy.
Yeah I really do wonder what was happening before that guy got him the ride. I should have made sure to get his name, without that, I had nothing to go off of reporting him to anyone, since it wasn't his account. I didn't bother blanking out when he said his address though 🙃
Judging by the way the good Samaritan walked off quickly, made me think it wasn’t too good. People often don’t think about the fact that an Uber driver has to endure the raft of the drunk idiots. But drunk or not drunk I absolutely hate creeps! And he has a “husband”? Gtfo
This is the sht that pisses me off! They don't stop, he said he's not gay,wants a girlfriend, & said NO! The guy said he has a husband, verbally acknowledged he was making driver uncomfortable and kept on being a creep. Stop trying to change people!
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I haven't done any interventions while I was driving. On the other hand, the vast majority of bus trips are uneventful; most passengers on RTA just keep to themselves and ride. The closest situation to something getting out of control was a guy who seemed very entitled to choose where he can get off the bus and was crossing the do-not-cross line arguing with the driver to be let off. The situation just barely did not involve the police but he was getting aggravated from the warning about the police being called. The man seemed to be someone struggling with addiction.
@@CluelessDriversInSoCal Yeah, I could definitely picture that happening more often in a city like Seattle, people with addiction problems and those who "aren't all there" are all around us on public transportation. I've seen some bus drivers/transit security get stern with people countless times, thankfully nothing I've been around has ever gotten out of hand
Holy crap - yeah, that was a train wreck. What is wrong with that guy? You should have tried to diffuse the situation early on by asking him stupid questions -- like where he's originally from, if he goes skiing this time of year, what he does for a living, etc.
Dude I had a guy just like that! He kept talking about how masculine I was and that he wanted some fun. I kept saying no I’m your driver, I’m straight. I told him to go online and talk to people. I told him that 3 times! He would not stop talking about how masculine I was. I finished the ride like you! I was so uncomfortable
@@uniteone9206 I'm so sorry that happened to you, too. If this can happen to us cis men, imagine how much more often this happens to all of the women in our lives 😵💫
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I agree! I tell women passengers this story when they ask what’s the craziest thing that’s happened as a driver. They can’t believe it lol. They have told me some horror stories with drivers doing the same like these guys
It certainly seemed like it. I don't recall smelling alcohol on him, but he was definitely out of sorts in some manner. Or is just genuinely that weird and creepy 🤷
I think the doors opened up when you told him your business. The collage BJ. I get hit on all the time driving with Lyft. Your ride was creepy. I would have been uncomfortable as well. Anyway, stay safe and enjoy your ride share platform. 🙏 making the best out of weird riders.
That was tough to watch! I feel for you. Please do not be hard on yourself for not being rude or aggressive, or kicking him out. In my opinion YOU deescalating the situation as much as you could is the only reason why this video wasn’t worse. You did such a good job!! You should be proud of yourself for in these terrible moments you made it through while dealing with a hostile client. Guaranteed any aggressive tones or you even trying to kick him out would’ve ended badly!
Hard disagree. He didn't deescalate the situation, but rather encouraged it to continue by answering nearly all of the guy's questions, admitting he'd been given a BJ by another man before, etc. He fed right into the creep's desires by revealing more about himself, and even his past experiences. The best thing to have done would be to give him the silent treatment and make it abundantly clear early on that you had no interest whatsoever in having a conversation of that nature. Stand your ground. Don't let others control and manipulate you.
He was out of line. My impression is that he's a very desperate and lonely person who is terrible in social situations. He could not take the hint. Still no excuse. And that "what if I did touch you again?" Super creepy.
Dude with all due respect, you need to learn how to set boundaries with people. Some of this could have been avoided (redirect conversation / not answering / not mentioning college situation), but I'm sure you learned some things and I'm sorry you had to go through that. My anxiety was so high watching this.
What is up with the total creeps anymore?I mean I am an armed security guard in a hotel and I get hit on by homosexual men all the time. I mean I don’t care what other people do. But when you say no it means no. But lately people can’t take no for an answer. It just bugs me. Just have some boundaries.
@@SaltySeattleCyclist Yes this is true. This guy is a sexual predator and one of these days he may get hurt or killed. People are crazy they won’t think twice about sticking someone.
I get it, I do that trying to be nice and civilised convo all the time and it always sticks with me when I'm obviously being played but my brain doesnt work fast enough to do anything else. Hindsight... tell him "Yes youre ugly" ! He is you know!
You did good keeping it professional, but I would not have engaged with him so much. Be polite. Don't answer personal questions or engage in inappropriate questions. You didn't owe him any answers.
I was wondering... Couldn't you have cancelled the ride or were you just wanting to post for content to let us know what you had to deal with. You just kept it together so cool. I must applaud you but seems it's not his account someone booked for him. Technically would he have gotten reported? Why couldn't you say you don't feel comfortable and change subject? I feel like you actually sort of edged him on. in a way. because you could have switched it up... 6:48 you participated not kool you should have changed conversation
My hubsand used to work with Uber and Lyft and had a guy said to him and he was liked no thank you then the guy asked him again and he told him no he doesn't swing that way because he likes women and he was married to me. Sorry that this happened to you Salty. You did right by saying no thank you because you don't know if people have aids, HIV or disease out there. You're future wife would respect a real hardworking guy like you Salty.
@@TheKappybook I completely agree, but unfortunately, because the good Samaritan bought this creep their ride, and thus the ride was connected to THEIR account, not the actual riders, I had no useful information on him.
As a male driver, I met a girl like this & turned it down because it was way too good to be true I thought I was going to get robbed. Biggest regrets. At least if I got robbed I would’ve had a cool story
Report the guy so you don't have to give rides to him anymore. He should be banned. Also, grow a backbone. You should have told him not to bring that crud up anymore. Instead he just forged ahead with the bs because you didn't shut him down. "No means no, and if you continue with that bs, you will be walking."
Why do you say that? Seattle is beautiful, has an amazing climate, both in terms of the weather and the culture, and I'm grateful that I was able to move here 7 years ago
So you weren't compisated for what happened or nobody contacted you about it? I bet if the same thing happened with a female driver they would be all over it.
Sorry you gotta take some of the heat here. Why would you even engage in conversation with this man after he stared talking about.... well you know what. Why give him personal information to keep him on that very uncomfortable topic?? Shut it down immediately, you can even do it nicely -I get it im a people pleaser too!!
I’m sorry, but you should have cut the conversation from the very beginning. Why to engaging with someone that is making you uncomfortable. Keep it quiet, stop answering the questions, stop laughing…as a woman, that’s how I handle harassment.
You kept it professional... I think I would've slammed on the brakes when he leaned over to you and said "wear your seatbelt"
Totally agreed. My thoughts exactly. Since no reply after the first complaint, keep the emails going until you get a response. Awesome thing that you had it all on dashcam for evidence. I was cringing from watching it. Viewer discretion was definitely advised in this one.
@@nino__akl Yeah, I really should have sent them this video asap. I was so convinced that there was nothing they could've really done/would do, combined with how uncomfortable of an experience it was, I just wanted to put it behind me. That's not the right thing to do, but I hope it's understandable 😔
@ZeroEnigma that would have been hilarious to do Too bad the only thing I was thinking about was how to do that in self-defense lol
That’s crazy that you commented on this video! When he pointed out the wrong way biker, I said in my head “wrong way ass juice” 😂
In the age of equality this was sexual harassment and should have been dealt with as such. If a straight guy had done this to a female driver he’d be in deep crap.
As a woman I couldn’t agree more.
Oh. Jesus.
I'm so sorry you had to deal with that, man. Some people just don't know how to shut up or take no for an answer. That conversation was beyond inappropriate. I was amazed how you were able to stay calm through the whole thing.
It's like that meme, "once is funny, two times is fucking annoying!" Except this guy took it to 386 times 🤦🤮
@@SaltySeattleCyclist😂😂😂
Way inappropriate for that dude to speak to you that way. Makes me angry.
@@bastidface chill.. it yt.
@@bastidface Nah, the driver could’ve let him do it. At 6:15 he admitted he’s done it before.
Ha! I drive Lyft. Now you know why that dude was willing to pay 50 bucks to get rid of this guy in the first place .
😂 exactly 👍
Exactly!!! Especially that was a long ride too. That was crazy! Glad you're okay
I bet that drive seemed like an eternity, glad you made it out safely with a big sigh of relief.
I couldn't believe it was only 20 minutes! 😵💫 Thank you, I'm glad too!
@@SaltySeattleCyclistYou are way too nice and patient with this creep. If I was the Uber driver, I would have canceled the ride immediately when he started talking to you about sex at 3:16 into this video. Hence, I would have canceled the ride even earlier at 2:47 when he said that he wanted to sleep with you. I would have told him that I am canceling the ride because I don't feel comfortable taking him. I can't believe you had the patience to put up with this fool for over 20 minutes.
This whole conversation was so uncomfortable to watch, I can't imagine how you felt the whole time.
Don’t understand why you would admit to him your college situation lol guy is on 95% creep and you just shot him up to 1000😅
Weird aye , if there was no camera he would have been all in . Dirty , Dirty
Next time don't even bother in conversation that makes you feel uncomfortable. Try and change the subject. Don't go along and share personal information about the uncomfortable topic. If it persist let them know your uncomfortable and end the trip.
@acryliclmac….sensible advice
I might have purposely gotten a speeding ticket just to get a cop to ask for his ID.
Trust me, I was watching for any sign of a cop the entire way, but none were around 😐
Oh, men. I'm really sorry that this happened to you. Luckily it wasn't worse. My solidarity, even from here.
Strong hug.
Thank you 🤗 Also sorry I haven't put subtitles on this one. I did make sure to at least put text up for all the most important parts!
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I missed the subtitles, but I think UA-cam allows you to insert subtitles, even with the video posted, no?
@@gabriel_issao Yes they do, all my subtitles are manually entered by me, which is why sometimes I'm late getting them added 💩 (
@@SaltySeattleCyclist don't stoop so low because of me or anyone else. If you can add it, it's good. Now, if it doesn't, there's no problem, because you can wait.
@@gabriel_issao Stooping low? What are you talking about?? It's an honor and a privilege to make them for you and everyone else who benefits from them!
Oh man I’m so sorry you had to go through this :( I’m glad you’re safe and got him where me needed to go without any harm! You sure are very patient!
Thank you 🙏 My level of patience is usually a benefit, but here it combined with my anxiety and made me more patient than I should have been, out of fear of conflict. Talk about eye-opening though! Men are garbage 👎
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I mean, he is right with one thing though, you are very good looking and idk how you’re single 😊
@@ariannaprest7606 Now don't you start creepin' 😉 But thank you! I'm just single because I haven't been trying 😅
@@SaltySeattleCyclist hahaha, yeah that makes sense :)
@@ariannaprest7606 if you want to start a channel called "dating advice for SaltySeattleDriver", I'm in 😂
As a gay man, we do not claim him. Sorry you had to deal with that. People can just be so gross.
Like this comment?
@@Bumpa1962 How so?
We view all people with your disease like this guy.
Why did he indulge him in the first instant? He should have just given him an awkward silence.
I was waiting for him to say that he'd rather not discuss personal matters, and would he ( the passenger) mind if they changed the subject.😊
@@WizOfOz36 right?
If that was me I would've flipped out, that's just so creepy, I would've been like let's rush this guy to his house as soon as possible and floor it out of there asap!!
He's insane to think those questions are fine
I think we'd all like to imagine that we'd speak out, but saying something in the moment is a lot harder in reality.
Im a taxi driver in London and i have experienced this too from men, im a straight guy. It proper sucks , but if one reacts then your classed as homophobic. I have had women hit on me too, but with them its much more subtle but you kinda know you're getting hit on when the conversation goes way deeper than just surface chat. I don't like to mix business with pleasure, so i do appreciate when ppl who do chat just keep things on the surface
Surface chat - is when they just talk about current events in news or whatever, the weather, traffic, they say they have a bf or husband without you asking. Convo moves slower , quite big gaps in conversion
Deeper convos - they ask more personal questions, they say they're single without you asking, they say they live alone . Some even straight out say you're attractive. Etc Convo seems to move at like a 100mph and no gaps to even speak yourself 😂
"but if one reacts then your classed as homophobic"
You can set boundaries with another human in the average western society and not get "classed as homophobic", however if you have a constant victim complex that you would for doing so, it's going to get exponentially more complicated.
@@bushusky How would that mean he has a victim complex? Gay men often harrass straight men sexually. Their community is oversexualized already with each other but for some reason tehy get a sick turn on by going after straight men. Everything we say these days is taken as homophobic. 20 years ago they would have to hide their sexuality. Now we have chose to accept them into society, we've overindulged them to the extent that they are so entitled. The man said he was straight ten times but the gay guy continued to sexual harrass him. If the guy was anymore firm, he would be considered homophobic. Stop making excuses for these people
Wow this is sexual harassment he just wouldnt stop
I watched this, this morning. I remember you letting me know about this after it happened. I have felt sick to my stomach most of the day. I want to make a comment but don’t know what to say. I’m glad you are sharing this, I know it was hard to revisit this incident.
There’s something not right about that guy. He should be banned from ride share platforms and a lot of other things. I would follow up with lyft to see how they handled it.
That passenger is either a predator or just plain rude and pathetic. Driver has the patience of a saint.
You really dodged a bullet. He was probably carrying his husbands head around in that bag
I’m so sorry you experienced this, how terrifying. That’s why I could never be a rude share driver (especially as a woman) I’m glad you got out of that!
Yeahh I don't know how women continue to get up and go out into the world every day with how men treat them. This sure was eye-opening to how that feels! Thankfully, out of well over 7000 rides that I've given, this was only one of a very small number of rides that ever made me feel uncomfortable and/or unsafe. But you sure do remember those bad ones! 😵💫
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I appreciate you being able to empathize with women regarding this type of situation. Recently, I had a male friend say, "it sure seems like you worry about being murdered a lot." Kind of funny, but sadly, kind of true. I don't feel especially vulnerable or have a victim mentality. It's not really about me, it's that some people are odd ducks and some are just depraved. Often, you have only seconds to decide which you're dealing with. So many violent crimes against women and children are crimes of opportunity. So we are told to be aware at all times. Be vigilant in a way that I don't think many men know is happening. You learn to park under light posts in the store parking lot. Check to see if anyone is in your back seat before getting back in your car. Don't park next to vans with sliding doors because the door could open and you could be pulled in in a blink of an eye and no one would notice - even in broad daylight. Do you think I want to have to be on high alert when I go jogging? Would I rather have earbuds in and be listening to music while running? Yes, but that makes me less aware of my surroundings, so I don't do it. Do you think I want to be on high alert because a weird man just got in the elevator with me, is standing unnervingly close and wants to make conversation? I can't simply say, I don't feel like talking to you guy. You have to humor people in these scenarios ("fawn" response) for fear of making a man that's unknown to you mad or inciting violence. We are taught to "Use the buddy system" when you walk home from a party or bar at night. I don't like being involuntarily thrown into "fight or flight" mode because I'm alone in a parking garage and a male figure walks out of the dark towards me. It's not fun for us I promise you. It's engrained in most women from childhood- "Listen when your intuition is telling you that you're in a dangerous situation". To do that, you always have to be listening/on alert. That's sad. Many women also have the extra hurdle of being taught to "be nice" and they are afraid to be rude, mean, or "hurt someone's feelings", when interacting with a person who makes them feel unsure or unsafe. That can be especially true when a man is ostensibly being nice or helpful - like the guy that offers to help carry your groceries into your apartment. Of course I don't think I should let a random dude into my building, let alone my apartment. It's difficult for a lot of women to adamantly decline in the moment when you're taken off guard and someone is pushing to be "helpful" and not taking the hint or listening to your words when you politely say no thank you. I know these feelings AREN'T exclusive to women and that men are also victims of sexual harassment and violent crimes. I was just taken aback when my male friend would so easily be willing to put himself in a situation that would be a total red flag to every woman. Anyway, I appreciated your acknowledgment. Sometimes it's just nice to be "seen". To the majority of men, who I know are the good guys, you can also help by taking notice when you see a person in a vulnerable situation. Stand by in case things go sideways. Sometimes just your presence could deter a creep from being creepy. I've rambled on here. Clearly, I was a bit triggered by seeing @SaltySeattleCyclist being spoken to in this way as well as being touched. It was strangely enlightening to see a male in this type of situation. Thanks for posting and stay safe out there! :)
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I want to add that I'm very sorry this happened to you. Even though you may have been unsure of what to do at times, whatever you did, you did right because you were able to get out of the situation safely. Physically unharmed at least.
Wow! I can’t believe how insistent this creep is. You were very polite, and said you were straight, and he still kept creeping on you 😂
This guy needs a leash when he leaves the house. I feel embarrassed for his spouse.
"What if I touch you again?"
*You're getting a goddamn fist on your nose*
@DashCamGenovaNCC Charming. I'm sure Uber/Lyft would love to see this comment.
@@CoopyKat I think so 😂
Such an awesome video man. Not actually but for the viewer. Thanks for sharing this crazy experience man!!😎💙
Well, that had to be the most uncomfortable ride ever. What a jerk.
im glad that you are okay! that was awful and stressful to see! be safe and take care! good vibes
Thank you 🤗
damn this was hard to watch incredible job on how you handled it man guys an total creep, I've had a similar experience myself and its honestly just disturbing glad everything's alright buddy could've gone a bad way
It’s a pity when they make every decision their groin, and only their groin
It is not cool that you had to go through that. I have to say you have more self-control than most people on the planet. I don't think I could have done what you did and kept myself. Regulated. The way you did so hats off to you but I'm still not happy that you had to be put through that total disrespect.
OMG, my soul left my body. You should never have to deal with this type of disrespect
Ew. Some people use the gay card to be creeps. And some people take "no" as a challenge, almost like they think you're just playing hard to get. Women have done this to me a lot, fortunately not any guys. I completely understand why you felt the need to placate him and act like he was just offering chocolate, because it's a gross and deeply unsettling position to find oneself in. Sorry this happened, mate. Just remember: your gender doesn't invalidate how violating this is, no matter what anyone says. And you didn't bring this on yourself, nothing you did was your fault. Thanks for sharing your story. Stay safe.
Saying "he was cute" was fine. That just seemed like casual convo but it quickly went south 😂
I’m really sorry that happened. The fact that you even had to consider smashing your car to be in relative safety is terrible.
And yeah, good job pointing out that women go through this more times than anyone can count.
This is why you choose the bear LOL
@@meganeuro230 YEP!!!
I would have had this guy out of my car by now! Does he not understand that this guy is straight and he is not interested? Good grief! The driver has the patience of a saint!
Creeps never know when to give up...or read basic signals...
Bi maybe, he said he got s**ked off by a dude
I am so sorry that happened to you. You handled it like a pro. Next time, save your self. Its not worth it to drive like that. You could have easily dumped him off some place and the other account still would not have been jeopardized. Stay safe out there!
I totally agree! That was certainly circulating through my head the whole time. When it comes to fight-or-flight moments, my brain takes the "freeze" response...thanks, massive anxiety and learned behaviors stemming from an overbearing childhood environment!
You did an excellent job. I hope you don't have or haven't had too many passengers like that.
I drove probably 6-7000 rideshare trips when I was a driver, this guy was by far the one that made me feel the most uncomfortable/unsafe. I think I took one more ride that day and just went home to unload the stress
Same thing happened to me .. this lady got behind my seat n started flirting with me n I kept saying I’m married n all n .. she even went hands on n saying she’s a professional massager n started to touch my shoulders n lower back n I kept pulling away .. n left her business card if I needed a late night massage later that night
Oh god!!! That's NOT an okay way to advertise your business, yikes!! 😳
I rode alot of Ubers when I was in Atlanta by the way I'm in a Uber right now and I'm always nice to the driver and not a creep.
Here's your trophy 🏆
@@SaltySeattleCyclist yay :D well tomorrow I'm leaving back home to NYC from Atlanta so I will be taking a Uber from the hotel to the Atlanta Airport
How was Atlanta
@@jamesholzfoesterreed8580 It was fun man I enjoyed it i saw everything now it time to head home Tomorrow morning ✈🏠
So Scary!! I am glad you are safe and I am sorry you had to endure that. He was probably harassing someone else when the good samaritan got him and Uber. And, not to defend the creep and his actions, he is lucky he got someone like you who stayed calm during the harassment. Things could have needed up a lot worse for that guy.
Yeah I really do wonder what was happening before that guy got him the ride. I should have made sure to get his name, without that, I had nothing to go off of reporting him to anyone, since it wasn't his account. I didn't bother blanking out when he said his address though 🙃
Judging by the way the good Samaritan walked off quickly, made me think it wasn’t too good. People often don’t think about the fact that an Uber driver has to endure the raft of the drunk idiots. But drunk or not drunk I absolutely hate creeps! And he has a “husband”? Gtfo
This is the sht that pisses me off! They don't stop, he said he's not gay,wants a girlfriend, & said NO! The guy said he has a husband, verbally acknowledged he was making driver uncomfortable and kept on being a creep. Stop trying to change people!
What did he say when he leaned forward? When you captioned "that made it 100x worse"?
Man that was scary but the good thing is that you knew how to handle that situation 😊😊
I would have brought my car to a screeching halt and told him to get the F out! That is so rude!
And I thought I'd seen some bizarre happenings on my bus trips. 😲 Sorry for that experience.
I'm sure you have! Have you ever had to step into a situation while you were driving?
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I haven't done any interventions while I was driving. On the other hand, the vast majority of bus trips are uneventful; most passengers on RTA just keep to themselves and ride.
The closest situation to something getting out of control was a guy who seemed very entitled to choose where he can get off the bus and was crossing the do-not-cross line arguing with the driver to be let off. The situation just barely did not involve the police but he was getting aggravated from the warning about the police being called. The man seemed to be someone struggling with addiction.
@@CluelessDriversInSoCal Yeah, I could definitely picture that happening more often in a city like Seattle, people with addiction problems and those who "aren't all there" are all around us on public transportation. I've seen some bus drivers/transit security get stern with people countless times, thankfully nothing I've been around has ever gotten out of hand
Holy crap - yeah, that was a train wreck. What is wrong with that guy? You should have tried to diffuse the situation early on by asking him stupid questions -- like where he's originally from, if he goes skiing this time of year, what he does for a living, etc.
You should've kicked him out after the 2nd "no". Especially since he wasn't the account holder, you don't have to worry about a false report.
Dude I had a guy just like that! He kept talking about how masculine I was and that he wanted some fun. I kept saying no I’m your driver, I’m straight. I told him to go online and talk to people.
I told him that 3 times! He would not stop talking about how masculine I was.
I finished the ride like you!
I was so uncomfortable
@@uniteone9206 I'm so sorry that happened to you, too. If this can happen to us cis men, imagine how much more often this happens to all of the women in our lives 😵💫
@@SaltySeattleCyclist I agree! I tell women passengers this story when they ask what’s the craziest thing that’s happened as a driver. They can’t believe it lol. They have told me some horror stories with drivers doing the same like these guys
Was he intoxicated?
It certainly seemed like it. I don't recall smelling alcohol on him, but he was definitely out of sorts in some manner. Or is just genuinely that weird and creepy 🤷
I think the doors opened up when you told him your business. The collage BJ. I get hit on all the time driving with Lyft. Your ride was creepy. I would have been uncomfortable as well. Anyway, stay safe and enjoy your ride share platform. 🙏 making the best out of weird riders.
That was tough to watch! I feel for you. Please do not be hard on yourself for not being rude or aggressive, or kicking him out. In my opinion YOU deescalating the situation as much as you could is the only reason why this video wasn’t worse. You did such a good job!! You should be proud of yourself for in these terrible moments you made it through while dealing with a hostile client. Guaranteed any aggressive tones or you even trying to kick him out would’ve ended badly!
Thank you! Well said, I seriously appreciate that 🥰
Hard disagree. He didn't deescalate the situation, but rather encouraged it to continue by answering nearly all of the guy's questions, admitting he'd been given a BJ by another man before, etc. He fed right into the creep's desires by revealing more about himself, and even his past experiences. The best thing to have done would be to give him the silent treatment and make it abundantly clear early on that you had no interest whatsoever in having a conversation of that nature. Stand your ground. Don't let others control and manipulate you.
@@Chubzdoomerthis isn’t it king
He was out of line. My impression is that he's a very desperate and lonely person who is terrible in social situations. He could not take the hint. Still no excuse. And that "what if I did touch you again?" Super creepy.
Yep that moment was one of the most terrifying things I've ever experienced 😵💫 he said he was married, too 🤔
Dude with all due respect, you need to learn how to set boundaries with people. Some of this could have been avoided (redirect conversation / not answering / not mentioning college situation), but I'm sure you learned some things and I'm sorry you had to go through that. My anxiety was so high watching this.
All I can say is nope! I couldn't handle the anxiety this guy would give me. 😬
What is up with the total creeps anymore?I mean I am an armed security guard in a hotel and I get hit on by homosexual men all the time. I mean I don’t care what other people do. But when you say no it means no. But lately people can’t take no for an answer. It just bugs me. Just have some boundaries.
Men need to be taught better, from a young age, about consent and boundaries. No more of that "boys will be boys" BS excuse!
@@SaltySeattleCyclist Yes this is true. This guy is a sexual predator and one of these days he may get hurt or killed. People are crazy they won’t think twice about sticking someone.
I get it, I do that trying to be nice and civilised convo all the time and it always sticks with me when I'm obviously being played but my brain doesnt work fast enough to do anything else. Hindsight... tell him "Yes youre ugly" ! He is you know!
You did good keeping it professional, but I would not have engaged with him so much. Be polite. Don't answer personal questions or engage in inappropriate questions. You didn't owe him any answers.
Should never have told him about your experience because he thought he had a shot. Hopefully he realized he was wrong✌
@@marionarmstrong6877 Yeah, but what was she *wearing* when she got SA'd? 🤔
5 minutes in and this ride was already very, very awkward.
That must’ve super stressful. Sorry that happened to you.
Thank you. This was, by far, the most stressful and "I'm in danger" trips that I ever took while I was a rideshare driver
Hey salty sorry you had to go through that I would’ve kicked him out
Meth is a hell of a drug
I would have turned up the music and changed the subject real quick
This passenger is giving Buffalo Bill vibes 😂
I was wondering... Couldn't you have cancelled the ride or were you just wanting to post for content to let us know what you had to deal with. You just kept it together so cool. I must applaud you but seems it's not his account someone booked for him. Technically would he have gotten reported? Why couldn't you say you don't feel comfortable and change subject? I feel like you actually sort of edged him on. in a way. because you could have switched it up... 6:48 you participated not kool you should have changed conversation
Yeah nah I wouldn’t have made it past the first 3 minutes “ sir you I’m going to have to ask you to step out the vehicle” in my best police voice 😂😂😂
There should be something called panic button linked to 911 with map for live details.
I do Uber too and I never experienced something like this before, If I were you I would've tell him to get out of my car or call the police
My hubsand used to work with Uber and Lyft and had a guy said to him and he was liked no thank you then the guy asked him again and he told him no he doesn't swing that way because he likes women and he was married to me. Sorry that this happened to you Salty. You did right by saying no thank you because you don't know if people have aids, HIV or disease out there. You're future wife would respect a real hardworking guy like you Salty.
That is gross what that rider said.
Note to self: Never pick up randoms off the street that get rides from "good Samaritan" glad you were safe after that experience.
Did you report him to the platform? He needs to be banned!
@@TheKappybook I completely agree, but unfortunately, because the good Samaritan bought this creep their ride, and thus the ride was connected to THEIR account, not the actual riders, I had no useful information on him.
Homie just wanted to bring you into his house to skin you and make you into his new bath robe
What a creep.
I can see why the guy paid for his ride … to get away from him 🙄
This is insane. He is going to catch a disease if he really behaves this way.
if Anybody was Gonna Talk Nasty to me' i Rather Have Girls do That' and Mostly About VORE Stuff...
Salty imma watch watch video tonight in my Hotel room later today
Wait, you don't Uber with a tandem bike?
Sadly, they don't allow that on the platform. I have had many dreams about doing so, though 😜
Did you drop gum on the ground outside the window at 1:28? That’s a complete slob
who cares
That passenger is one sick dog.
That guy would have got out of my car that's crazy
I'm glad you're alright.
Thank you! I'm glad too 🙏
10:49 I'd rather be a passenger in that guys car than ride with dude in the back.
As a male driver, I met a girl like this & turned it down because it was way too good to be true I thought I was going to get robbed.
Biggest regrets. At least if I got robbed I would’ve had a cool story
Report the guy so you don't have to give rides to him anymore. He should be banned. Also, grow a backbone. You should have told him not to bring that crud up anymore. Instead he just forged ahead with the bs because you didn't shut him down. "No means no, and if you continue with that bs, you will be walking."
I had no way to report him, because the ride was under that other guy's account, and they didn't even know each other.
If he was a woman he wouldn’t put up with this conversation in anyway. He shouldn’t have had to either way.
This is a truly awful looking town.
Why do you say that? Seattle is beautiful, has an amazing climate, both in terms of the weather and the culture, and I'm grateful that I was able to move here 7 years ago
So you weren't compisated for what happened or nobody contacted you about it? I bet if the same thing happened with a female driver they would be all over it.
Absolute weirdo. Who even has the gall to talk like that?
Oh no. He should not have indulged this guy. Gay man here
Oh wow!!!!
Talk about persistent
Sorry you gotta take some of the heat here. Why would you even engage in conversation with this man after he stared talking about.... well you know what. Why give him personal information to keep him on that very uncomfortable topic?? Shut it down immediately, you can even do it nicely -I get it im a people pleaser too!!
I'm sorry, dude.But as soon as he started talking and came out with that vibe you should have said sorry done...
You kept encouraging him. Next time keep your mouth shut.
I listen to the same podcast!
Bro no way 6:22 u was trolling right 😂😂😂
I am openly bisexual. Is that a problem?
I’m sorry, but you should have cut the conversation from the very beginning. Why to engaging with someone that is making you uncomfortable. Keep it quiet, stop answering the questions, stop laughing…as a woman, that’s how I handle harassment.