There are two types of mulches. Acidic mulches and basic mulches. If that mulch under your pines is more basic your pines will stuggle. The best mulch for uder a pine is pine needles. If lawn can grow under your pine the ground is not acidic enough.
So I tried it and it’s working so far and even tho my pine tree has been through a lot like being attacked by leaf cutter ants and then getting a disease and the new needles aren’t dying finally
Working on mine as well, I've been using a smoothy of aloe vera (only mature aloes I use. Plants helping plants, I put it in a spray bottle, water at night or early in the morning only. The branch wilt has improved. Also here in visalia the fog has returned a little bit which any form if water is welcomed. These trees love the fog. I'm going to post a video of mine to show the difference.
Spraying conifers for needlecast is dicey. As you can see, you have to wet the entire tree with spray. Eventually, you cant spray most of the tree, nor is drifting that spray onto your neighbor's property legal. Therefore, you end up with a large untreatable tree. In a lot of cases, it makes more sense to remove susceptible conifers before they get too large and replace them with something else. If you're going to spray, at least read the PPE requirements on the label. Monterey clearly says not to inhale the stuff; it's fine if you dont want PPE, but I wouldn't make a public video without disclaiming this.
Copper fungicide must be pretty good, I've seen people use it on tomatoes in their gardens with pretty decent results. First time I've seen them used on trees
I have same problems with my evergreens. When I had my maple cut down in the spring my arborist mentioned I have rhizosphaera needle cast that’s why it’s shedding. So I’ve been testing Spectra 90 WDG, stuff is expensive but I hope I can save them too.
Our pine trees had a pest which built a Caccoon or conical shape type of worm and the needles were eaten by moth or worm. Did not want to spray because of bird nests!
I have a tree that similar to a pine tree, but it’s not and it seems to be dying on the top and all around. Do you have any help that you can give me to hopefully save it I’ll be very thankful.
This particular disease spreads up the tree. So, the tops of my trees were fairly healthy and hopefully stopping it before it makes it up there. If it's throughout the whole tree, then not much you can do outside of own a lift.
I had to cut down 18 of these trees due to similar issue, but willing to save the few that left on my property. Do you have any updates? I would like to give this product a shot next spring.
I would spray right now. The new growth on my trees is established and that's what you have to save. Basically, my understanding is the dead parts of the tree are dead. This stops the spread to the new growth so over time the tree can regrow. I don't really have results exactly as even the arborist said it can take 3-5 years of doing this. What I will say is there are more needles on these trees now than there was last spring/year.
Hi there, I have a ponderosa pine that was treated 3 months ago with mystery injectables for fungus. The company seems slightly shady...I can't see much of a difference, should I attempt to spray now or do you think I should wait until spring?
It is my understanding that doing that now would not do anything. You need to hit the new growth right when it's put on. I was late and only did 1 app this year and am noticing die back again from the progress I had made over the previous 2 years of doing this.
I have two pretty big white pines one on each side of my driveway I do not want to lose so I am ready and willing to try anything. It's winter now so I will wait until spring and try the spray you suggested. I don't know how high I can get with my sprayer but I do have a power sprayer too so we'll see. Have you seen any improvement since you did this in May of 2021? Also, what fertilizers did you try? I have used tree spikes in the past when they were still healthy and it seemed to work well. I even had a specialist come out a few years back when it first started and had them fertilized professionally twice, and did not see an improvement. He said they looked fine as far a any sort of "problem" but it's obvious something is going on. Anyway, thanks for the video. You gave me some hope.
@@JasonSeiberlich Cool...good to hear that. I really do not want to lose my trees. They grew over my driveway and look real nice in front of my house too. Plus I planted them myself some 35+ years ago. Thanks for letting me know.
Spruce trees, likely a needlecast disease. If you can't see the rootflare then you are probably spinning your wheels. Austin D. Isa certified Arborist MI-4665A
Does the copper treat it or hormones released from the plant? And if so what's a good way to treat them after the stress of releasing that hormone? Thanks
I'm not going to pretend to understand how fungicides work. But it's killing/inhibiting in some manner of fashion the fungus/disease that's causing the needles to fall off. This is why you want to spray the new growth to protect it.
We live in Lake City Michigan pine tree capital of the world and our tree growers use Bravo Weather Stik - We have dozens of assorted pines and the cost of the product you provide would cost thousand dollars per year - Bravo Weather Stik is a fraction and treats the fungicide you speak of - any thoughts?
From what I understand Pines don't like being over watered, they need good drainage and a soil pH of around 5.5. Planting in the wrong sort of soil can cause all types of problems, a sandy clay gets a thumbs up. ✌️❤️🇳🇿
My big boy is doing this and dominates my front yard. I don't want to cut him down. I want to try this, but have a golden delicious apple tree near by (10 feet or sort). Do you know if this treatment will harm my apple tree? The spray will most definitely mist it.
I read through the label and apple trees are listed as a plant you can treat. However, what I'm not seeing and do not know, is a clear distinction of if that's OK for fruit you will eat. My assumption is yes, but I would strongly strongly encourage you to look that up for yourself and carefully read the label of whatever product you're going to apply.
Wait 3 more questions one: will the disease ever temporarily go away. And two can this disease kill the tree? Three: will the needles that don’t have the disease live?
I'm not an expert on the topic, but my understanding is these types of needle diseases move up the tree from the ground. So, without intervention, it would be my assumption that once a tree is diseased it will slowly spread until it kills the tree. If you really want to make sure you're doing the right thing, reach out to your county or states ag extension. Mine was super helpful.
Hey I just visited my pine tree and within 2 weeks it lost all of its needles. Can I revive it? Is it dead? Around it, I see wheat. So i think someone poisoned my pine tree and used the land to plant wheat. Plus wheat probably took all of the water & minerals from the land.
@@JasonSeiberlich Do you think I can still revive it? Literally has no needles. Paid $1,000 on Christmas for it and planted it, had no issues up until 2-3 weeks ago. It is 5 meters tall, would be a shame if it were to die :/
I don't know if I'm honest. Reach out to your county's extension office. The arborist I was put in contact with was super nice. Sent them pictures and they told me what to do.
@edwinperez8406 they were showing signs of recovery. I haven't done it for 2 years now and the ones I treated are still ok. I stopped because I think long term they'll all come down.
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Always nice to have some nice mature trees that big in your yard, but they come with their own set of problems like this to worry about. Good info!
Thank you. Nothing but dying ash and pine trees on the lot.
@@JasonSeiberlich my neighbor cut down 4 dead ash trees last year 😩 that emerald ash borer wiped out huge areas of woods here, it was bad!
There are two types of mulches. Acidic mulches and basic mulches. If that mulch under your pines is more basic your pines will stuggle. The best mulch for uder a pine is pine needles. If lawn can grow under your pine the ground is not acidic enough.
Very timely with this video. I have a number of pine trees in my backyard that probably have the same thing going on.
Awesome.
Favourite part about Saturday mornings is watching UA-cam and yes, I’m having a beer lol getting ready to finally film some video...for a video...lol
About time.
@@JasonSeiberlich lol, I’ve been looking forward to actually having time to make a video!
So I tried it and it’s working so far and even tho my pine tree has been through a lot like being attacked by leaf cutter ants and then getting a disease and the new needles aren’t dying finally
Great to hear
Working on mine as well, I've been using a smoothy of aloe vera (only mature aloes I use. Plants helping plants, I put it in a spray bottle, water at night or early in the morning only. The branch wilt has improved. Also here in visalia the fog has returned a little bit which any form if water is welcomed. These trees love the fog. I'm going to post a video of mine to show the difference.
Nice.
Spraying conifers for needlecast is dicey. As you can see, you have to wet the entire tree with spray. Eventually, you cant spray most of the tree, nor is drifting that spray onto your neighbor's property legal. Therefore, you end up with a large untreatable tree. In a lot of cases, it makes more sense to remove susceptible conifers before they get too large and replace them with something else. If you're going to spray, at least read the PPE requirements on the label. Monterey clearly says not to inhale the stuff; it's fine if you dont want PPE, but I wouldn't make a public video without disclaiming this.
Copper fungicide must be pretty good, I've seen people use it on tomatoes in their gardens with pretty decent results. First time I've seen them used on trees
Yea treats a lot of more plant related diseases.
and then how did it turn out? 1 year, 2 years later?
Thanks buddy I hope this works with my pine in the front yard.
I have same problems with my evergreens. When I had my maple cut down in the spring my arborist mentioned I have rhizosphaera needle cast that’s why it’s shedding. So I’ve been testing Spectra 90 WDG, stuff is expensive but I hope I can save them too.
I think that's right. Apparently common in blue spruce
Our pine trees had a pest which built a Caccoon or conical shape type of worm and the needles were eaten by moth or worm. Did not want to spray because of bird nests!
Great video! Great tips!
How do the the pine trees look this year?
They continue to look a little bit better every year. Hopefully get them sprayed again here in the next week or 2 as they just put out new growth.
Thanks for the tipy friend
I have a tree that similar to a pine tree, but it’s not and it seems to be dying on the top and all around. Do you have any help that you can give me to hopefully save it I’ll be very thankful.
Thank you
Any update on your trees? Going to start this process on mine
I haven't done this for 2 years and they still look better than they did when we moved in. Probably would be even better if I kept up with it.
Hi I saw your video I have a quick question what about the branches that are on the top it doesnt matter if the copper product doesnt go there?
This particular disease spreads up the tree. So, the tops of my trees were fairly healthy and hopefully stopping it before it makes it up there. If it's throughout the whole tree, then not much you can do outside of own a lift.
I had to cut down 18 of these trees due to similar issue, but willing to save the few that left on my property. Do you have any updates? I would like to give this product a shot next spring.
I would spray right now. The new growth on my trees is established and that's what you have to save. Basically, my understanding is the dead parts of the tree are dead. This stops the spread to the new growth so over time the tree can regrow. I don't really have results exactly as even the arborist said it can take 3-5 years of doing this. What I will say is there are more needles on these trees now than there was last spring/year.
@@JasonSeiberlich that's awesome, thanks for the vid!!
Hi there, I have a ponderosa pine that was treated 3 months ago with mystery injectables for fungus. The company seems slightly shady...I can't see much of a difference, should I attempt to spray now or do you think I should wait until spring?
It is my understanding that doing that now would not do anything. You need to hit the new growth right when it's put on. I was late and only did 1 app this year and am noticing die back again from the progress I had made over the previous 2 years of doing this.
I have two pretty big white pines one on each side of my driveway I do not want to lose so I am ready and willing to try anything. It's winter now so I will wait until spring and try the spray you suggested. I don't know how high I can get with my sprayer but I do have a power sprayer too so we'll see.
Have you seen any improvement since you did this in May of 2021? Also, what fertilizers did you try? I have used tree spikes in the past when they were still healthy and it seemed to work well. I even had a specialist come out a few years back when it first started and had them fertilized professionally twice, and did not see an improvement. He said they looked fine as far a any sort of "problem" but it's obvious something is going on. Anyway, thanks for the video. You gave me some hope.
It's been continuous improvement since I started doing this in 2019. They're coming back, albeit slowly.
@@JasonSeiberlich Cool...good to hear that. I really do not want to lose my trees. They grew over my driveway and look real nice in front of my house too. Plus I planted them myself some 35+ years ago. Thanks for letting me know.
Spruce trees, likely a needlecast disease. If you can't see the rootflare then you are probably spinning your wheels.
Austin D.
Isa certified Arborist MI-4665A
What would you suggest to do?
@@dwaynetoney3429 root collar excavation and then administer fungicide treatments.
@@austindouglas13 thank you 😊👍
what is a rootflare?
@@garyfeatherston4850 the transition area between trunk and roots. It's the taper and sight of the initial buttress roots on a tree.
Does the copper treat it or hormones released from the plant? And if so what's a good way to treat them after the stress of releasing that hormone? Thanks
I'm not going to pretend to understand how fungicides work. But it's killing/inhibiting in some manner of fashion the fungus/disease that's causing the needles to fall off. This is why you want to spray the new growth to protect it.
May want to use better eye and breathing protection applying a chemical above you like that...
What did you mulch your trees with? What type of mulch?
I had just gotten some free wood chips and then just a standard wood mulch over the top. Whether or not that's correct, don't know.
Another question. Will this stay applied even when it rains afterwards?
Would not apply if rain is coming.
We live in Lake City Michigan pine tree capital of the world and our tree growers use Bravo Weather Stik - We have dozens of assorted pines and the cost of the product you provide would cost thousand dollars per year - Bravo Weather Stik is a fraction and treats the fungicide you speak of - any thoughts?
Sounds like a better product option. Thanks.
How to open the liqui cop rts container
Unfortunately, no clue. I cut off the top.
Is it also having orange powder type rust disease with the branches dying?
Not necessarily. Just turning brown. I have rust in my yard though.
How far into the air will the hose spray reach? Will it reach 50-80' ?
No, but the problem does climb the tree so getting the lower branches helps. Maybe 15-20 feet up.
Mine is right next to my house. I should be able to get to it standing on the roof.
They’re not pine trees they’re spruce trees. That’s needle cast.
Use Respirator
Will the bare branches eventually grow new needles?
I don't know for sure. Maybe at the ends. Fairly certain the areas that once had needles but no longer do will not regrow in those areas.
How are your trees doing now?
Very slow, but steady improvement. I have not watered them like I should, which based on what the arborist told me is likely not helping the revovery.
From what I understand Pines don't like being over watered, they need good drainage and a soil pH of around 5.5.
Planting in the wrong sort of soil can cause all types of problems, a sandy clay gets a thumbs up.
✌️❤️🇳🇿
My big boy is doing this and dominates my front yard. I don't want to cut him down. I want to try this, but have a golden delicious apple tree near by (10 feet or sort). Do you know if this treatment will harm my apple tree? The spray will most definitely mist it.
I read through the label and apple trees are listed as a plant you can treat. However, what I'm not seeing and do not know, is a clear distinction of if that's OK for fruit you will eat. My assumption is yes, but I would strongly strongly encourage you to look that up for yourself and carefully read the label of whatever product you're going to apply.
@@JasonSeiberlich Thanks for the quick reply. I was doing some reading on this also and saw that it should be safe. Wish me luck.
Is it possible to get rid of the disease permanently
Not likely. But maybe.
Well there is still a lot of needles on the tree for now do you think that could help
The dead limbs won't come back but this will protect new growth. Should be applied when the tree is putting on new growth in the spring.
Wait 3 more questions one: will the disease ever temporarily go away. And two can this disease kill the tree? Three: will the needles that don’t have the disease live?
I'm not an expert on the topic, but my understanding is these types of needle diseases move up the tree from the ground. So, without intervention, it would be my assumption that once a tree is diseased it will slowly spread until it kills the tree. If you really want to make sure you're doing the right thing, reach out to your county or states ag extension. Mine was super helpful.
Is if safe? Thanks for the info.
Not to drink or shower with. But, to use as directed on the label, yes it's safe.
Hey I just visited my pine tree and within 2 weeks it lost all of its needles. Can I revive it? Is it dead?
Around it, I see wheat. So i think someone poisoned my pine tree and used the land to plant wheat. Plus wheat probably took all of the water & minerals from the land.
Probably a different scenario. This disease will work its way from the ground up. Needles will fall off from the ground up and from the trunk out.
@@JasonSeiberlich Do you think I can still revive it? Literally has no needles. Paid $1,000 on Christmas for it and planted it, had no issues up until 2-3 weeks ago. It is 5 meters tall, would be a shame if it were to die :/
I don't know if I'm honest. Reach out to your county's extension office. The arborist I was put in contact with was super nice. Sent them pictures and they told me what to do.
Havent had any success with this product 😢
Hey Jason, where did you purchase the product? Local Menards? Update?
Online
@@JasonSeiberlich Okay, this was 3 years ago? how's the pine trees doing now? Or is there another product you like even better?
@edwinperez8406 they were showing signs of recovery. I haven't done it for 2 years now and the ones I treated are still ok. I stopped because I think long term they'll all come down.
@@JasonSeiberlich I live in Oak creek and i am afraid that if i don't treat them it could come down on the house. Which it's kind of close.
the weight from the rocks you have around the root system is smothering the tree
Huh? That's mulch.
😂😂😂 that must be why you don’t see pine trees in the mountains…. Too many rocks. 🙄
Sez Mr. Wiltz. 🙄😐
rootflare explain please?
Rootflare is the part at the base of the tree where the trunk flares out (gets wider)
Do you cut dead branches?
Could. Have not.
Sad😢