How do you feel about pop punk? These are 5 general reasons I've found from diving through the intergalactic highway to find out why people seem to hate the genre so much...
The reason new bands aren't popular anymore is because pop punk fans won't let the go of the older bands. If the fans cant give the new bands a chance, this genre will never come back.
Greg Khar Punkerz no the genre dosent need to sound like it did 20 years go I don’t like the direction it’s gone in but I don’t want it to be the same shit over and over either we’ve had that already
Different types of pop punk and where the bands belong: Skate pop punk: pre-Self Titled Blink, All Killer era Sum 41, The Offspring Power pop punk: Bowling For Soup, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan The poppiest side of the genre: All American Rejects, Boys Like Girls, early 5SOS, Busted, Nothing Personal-era All Time Low “Heavier” pop punk: Billy Talent, Does This Look Infected era Sum 41, Neck Deep (Before These god awful new singles), The Story So Far, A Day To Remember, Wonder Years “Emo” inspired pop punk: early FOB, All We Know-era Paramore Dark pop punk: Three Cheers-era MCR, Alkaline Trio Often mistaken as pop punk: Avril Lavigne, Panic! At The Disco Sad Boi pop punk: Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Real Friends, Mayday Parade (even though they were around, before that term was a thing) (That’s All I’ve got)
The last pop punk adjacent song to hit the mainstream was Love Drunk by Boys Like Girls and that came out 11 years ago and the last full blown pop punk track to hit the mainstream was Misery Business, which came out 13 years ago, let that sink in
Jason LovesABR You could throw in The Story So Far, too, as their last album reached #19 on the Billboard 200. Also, Neck Deep’s, “The Peace and the Panic”, debuted at #4 on the Billboard 200 in both the US and UK back in 2017.
I'm excited about the new era of pop punk! Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, With Confidence, etc... are all killing it rn and I like MGK's new sound and how he blends his rapper personality with his rocker side. Even older groups like All Time Low and Blink are still killing it imo
Tom Delonge decided to change cause he didn't fit in blink, now AvA is a great band but the new blink is not great. I'm not sure if I even should argue but you just need to listen to Nine to understand a lot of today's bands are better. I love blink but blink with skibba is not that great at all, even if it's not the worst band All in all it's just a matter of taste
I didn't mind early punk like The Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. But I hate it now...The emo pop punk and pop punk in general drives me insane. The fact that the genre is more popular than let's say, power metal, pisses me off like no other.
I’m with you on that. True punk to me are bands like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Bad Brains, The Clash (from 1977 to 1979), The Buzzcocks, Television, Bikini Kill, Black Flag, and The Damned. Many recent post-punk bands (Squid, Parquet Courts, shame, etc.) are doing more for punk than most if not all pop punk bands from the mid-90s and the 2000s.
Pop punk was the first genre of music i really got into and for that i have much respect for the genre. GreenDay and Blink for example were the first bands i fully engaged with as a 10 year old hopefully the genre has a good future with some really good bands popping up such as Stand Atlantic and even Waterparks really bringing in a varied fan base
I think my problem with a lot of pop punk is that a lot of it sounds very samey, with very similar riffs, guitar tuning, tempos, and drum patterns. There's definitely some good pop punk out there (like the ones you mentioned), but most just seem to fall into the same boat as modern rap for me.
Check out the band named ALL if you want a non-generic pop punk sound. They're basically like a progressive pop punk band instead of a yet-another-ramones-clone.
I used to listen to pop punk, but now I listen to more “real”/hardcore/anarcho punk. I think what bothers those who listen to heavier punk genres is that when most people think of punk nowadays, they think of pop punk instead. If i were to tell someone i listened to punk, they would likely think i mean green day, blink 182, or any other similar sounding bands, even though that isn’t what i listen to. I just would like to see more people differentiating punk and pop punk.
This is exactly my feeling to mainstream Rap as well. When I say I listen to Hip-Hop, I mean MF DOOM, Grandmaster Flash, ICP or some Gorillaz songs, not Lil Wayne, Lil Pump or Cardi B (yuck !).
Pop punk has so many talented musicians. The reason I think pop punk is hated is because the whiny vocal style, the same sound all over again and the songs get so annoying when you play it again and again.
The reason I hate it is because it ruins everything about punk rock. It takes that hard angry sound that was built up in the 70s and 80s and makes it accessible and cooperate
Thank you Pop punk didn't "evolve from punk rock" it evolved from pop and there's nothing wrong with pop music if that's what someone likes but it isn't punk rock Punk rock is rooted in anger and struggle, pop punk is rooted in mild inconvenice
Personally I usually label it all as rock music. All Time Low is hands down my favorite band and really got me into the scene. But even before them I loved Blink, Green Day, and BFS. I don’t really get the concept that “oh they’re too whinny”. Yeah, people have problems and they need artists and such to relate to in those times. And that’s the thing. If I were to say pop punk is one thing, it’s relatable above everything else. Most bands have artists that are just normal looking people singing about their hopes, dreams, fears, love, loss, etc. I live in Florida and I don’t care for it here so I can totally relate to to the “wanna leave this town and start a new life” kinda music. And come on! Who hasn’t had their heart broken, felt like the weird kid , hell even been the weird kid (or adult) and felt like they don’t belong and no one understands them? If you’ve never felt these things then I’m happy for you but those of us that are more emotional and deal with these things (some people daily) NEED people they can relate and look up to. I used to hate the term “emo” but now I love it because what does it ultimately mean? Emotional. And for me at least it’s amazing when you hear others express their emotions and you can think like “oh shit. They understand how I feel”. Hell The new emo rap is starting to grow on me because instead of being about “drugs, bitches, and gang life” (not saying all rap is but a lot of it’s out there) it’s about emotional highs and lows. Like Juice WRLD’s “Lucid Dreams” for example. And yes. I dig what MGK’s doing rn too. In regards to the gate keeping, yeah that’s a problem you get with all purists of all fandoms. I’m not sure if there’s a way to actually change that but I also wish people were more open minded. I love the twist on rock music that Waterparks brings to the table for example. They hate being called pop punk so I’ll refrain from that but they definitely have elements of pop punk for sure. Yet, Awstens’ delivery in a lot of the songs is very akin to rapping and they have a fair amount of electronic stylings as well. For those saying “it’s too simplistic, anyone can do it” first off, I implore you. Please. Go do it then if it’s so easy. Second, that’s definitely part of the charm. This idea that “hey these people are like me and maybe I have a chance at being as big as them and doing what I love for a living like they are”. That alone is so incredible and inspirational. And that’s ultimately why I say pop punk at its core is about one thing above all else. Relatability. For that, I believe it is extremely important that the genre continues and strives (unless something similar over takes it). But for now, I think it’s definitely here to stay.
I honestly really like Pop Punk, though i'm pretty picky about it. Though, I'm loving the pop punk bands that have been fusing into different genres or adding new influences like Waterparks, Stand Atlantic, As It Is, and Broadside.
This describes me pretty well, got into the genre pretty late (2016), can’t stand heavier sounds or late 2000s with whiny voices (sleeping with sirens )
you don't know what you're talking about. making beats IS hard. rapping IS hard. rap actually has A LOT of deep lyrics. lots of trap rap also has guitars. a lot of the newer trap rap is heavily influenced by pop punk and emo, and the lyrical content is much the same.
I personally love pop punk as a genre. Green Day, Paramore, Blink-182, Sum 41, and Rise Against (even though they're more melodic hardcore than pop punk) are some of my favorite bands. I also love my share of songs from Fall Out Boy, MCR, All American Rejects, New Found Glory, etc. I think the main reason why people dislike it is due to the similarity in lyrics as well as the fact that it takes an underground genre and makes it more accessible. It's why most metalheads tend to hate 80s glam metal. Personally, that doesn't mean much to me because a lot of these bands aren't trying to be hardcore like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, or Misfits. They happen to write catchy songs with a lot of attitude with the instrumentation. Pop punk isn't supposed to be as complex or musically interesting as other genres (even though Green Day & the Fueled By Ramen bands wanted to push the genre's boundaries in the 2000s). It's its own fun little thing that I happen to really appreciate.
Pop Punk was my gateway drug into metal core and post hardcore. In the early 2000’s and even parts of the 2010’s a lot of these bands with different styles toured together. Is pop punk my favorite genre? I don’t know maybe. It’s definitely the one I’m most comfortable with and feel like I know the most about. I do owe pop punk music for bringing me into situations where I discovered other great genres.
Do videos on obscure genres of punk. Like Celtic Punk. Bands like Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, The Pogues. Or do videos on Horror Punk (The Misfits) and Psychobilly. These genres of Punk never get talked about.
Love pop punk. Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Paramore, Green Day and more have been some of the most memorable bands I've ever listened to. Although I like experimenting with Alt music a bit more, even Indie: Pop punk has a place in my heart.
returning to pop punk now is like reuniting with an old childhood friend you haven’t seen in years, nice to reminisce and feel nostalgic but it just isn’t the same anymore.
I feel like pop punk isn’t an oxymoron. The big 3 of 70’s punk (Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols) were all pretty successful and to this day get airplay on rock stations. They were pop bands at the time. Punk only started to become an insular scene in the 80’s when the hardcore movement started to pick up steam.
If no punk purists criticize The Clash for making obvious pop songs like Rock the Casbah or criticize The Ramones for having very pop-centric melodies, why do they criticize post-1990 pop punk bands for doing the same thing? It's totally hypocritical.
When something that only relates to people who consider themselves outcasts becomes mainstream, they feel like it was taken away from them as if they had a right to it in the first place. How comic purists react to the MCU is a good example of this. You can find plenty of this gatekeeping nonsense on places reddit and iFunny too. They’re currently doing it with ATLA (Avatar the Last Airbender) because it’s popular on Netflix now. Unfortunately it’s just they way things go once something originally niche becomes mainstream
I have nothing against pop punk... but I hate it😂 To me, the genre simply does not appeal to me. The vocals are consistently annoying to my ears. They are either whiney sounding or the cheesy chorus melodies just repulse me. I do like a lot of post punk and more unhinged punk but I wouldn't consider myself an elitist. Music is all subjective and while I hate pop punk, I would actively encourage anyone who loves it to keep listening! I'm of the mindset of spreading the love of MUSIC as a whole, not just a genre.
And because you can be open minded, understanding, and accepting of the fact that while something isn’t for you doesn’t mean it’s bad so you can let others enjoy it, you are going about this in the right way. As such I can honestly say I respect your opinion yet disagree. To each their own.
I used to hate pop punk but after you find the type on bands in the genre you like it can be one of the most rewarding...still there’s so much pop punk I can’t stand. But the gems are all you really need
There’s a lot of new pop punk bands that are pushing the boundaries a bit or are at least getting there. Stand Atlantic, Between You & Me, Trash Boat, and With Confidence all have great debut albums! I’m also super excited for mgks new album too :)
There's another reason why it's almost fashionable to hate pop punk - it's melodic. The very term 'pop' punk is almost a derogatory description...ie. it's not real punk, it's pop punk. Pop, and melody in general, is seen now as something "those crappy mainstream songs have" so the tendency for bands and fans is to steer away from melody and go for something more extreme instead. It's crazy. The Ramones were melodic. The Damned were melodic. Even the Sex Pistols were melodic. Punk was effectively old rock & roll on steroids. It was only later, in the 80s, that hardcore punk redefined what a lot of people in the USA call punk. I would concede that a lot of pop punk bands from the very late 90s onwards did sound incredibly generic, and the vocals were whiny in their delivery, but I think if bands of all genres could lose their fear of writing a song that's 'catchy', the music world would be a better place.
People secretly love catchy melodies but openly hate it as they realize that's what people love, so liking it doesn't make you look "edgy" enough Make zero sense but that's what punk rock poser mentality all about: It's just about image and identity, music doesn't even matter, the real reason why punk is dead, and well deserved
@@Kiakaha-v2o Metal has gone down that same route, but somehow it retains a degree of popularity - maybe because there are big metal bands still playing and drawing fans in. With punk, the attitude seems far worse in the USA, where many seem stuck with the idea that it's aggressive hardcore or nothing. In the UK, in contrast, Rumkicks could all but fill the main hall for a terrible 2pm slot at the Rebellion Festival, despite them being women, playing catchy punk, and usually not even singing in English.
@@RevStickleback In the other hand metal is still envolving, despite being controversial, djent is the new thing, originated from a subgenre which nickname is "musical wankfest". I guess diversity can really keep a genre live
Even though it’s become one of my favorite genres of music over the past 4 years, I can definitely get why some people dislike or even hate pop punk and especially for the reasons pointed out here.
I get the last point but also hate it cause I've never liked the idea of hating something because of it's fandom. Cause let's be real...most fandoms for anything, be it a band, a genre of music, a tv show, a game, etc. are almost always toxic in their own way. Or at least have toxic people in them. Either way my only issue with pop-punk has been that some artists are just very derivative of others in the genre. That said you get acts like Say Anything or Brand New (sorta) or PUP or something that distinguish themselves
I would say, much like with metal, the fans and gatekeeping is why some people hate the genre. Newer acts being shit on by fans who gatekeep what the genre is about or clang on to older acts so the genre never gets a chance to revive itself or evolve. Rap/hiphop gets the same treatment to an extent, but not as badly which is why we still see rap and hiphop in the mainstream with different subgenres appearing. Who knows, we might see a comeback
I wish they could acknowledge "emo" rap for the "dark" kind that it is. Emo is too firm and can't be as diverse as metal is. Even nu metal has some ties to the roots. "Emo" rap doesn't.
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 well most emo rappers well the modern ones, are influenced by trap rap and not dissing trap but it's not the best genre, to be influenced by when making a emo offshoot of a genre.
I mean, Pop Punk is what introduced me to Punk. I, actually, think it's my favorite genre of music. Yeah, most of it sounds similar with similar themes, but I kind of don't mind that. When I listen to Pop Punk, I usually know what I'm getting in to, even if I've never heard the song before. You can dislike that, sure, but I like some certainty in my life.
I'm not really a fan of pop punk except for Green Day. I feel I've outgrown it as a genre and I do feel a lot of it is pretty simplistic. But I do respect it's cultural relevance and how it can be a vehicle to exposing people to more interesting and challenging styles of music.
Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, Belmont, Hot Mulligan (my personal favorite jam right now,) Neck Deep (specifically “Life’s Not Out to Get You”) there are a ton of great up and coming pop punk bands these days that are really making good music and definitely more technical music.
Although my music taste was founded on pop punk back when I was in high school and still has a place in my heart plus my fashion style is still influenced by it at my age of 27, I haven't listen to it as much over the years due to my music taste expanding into other directions especially into more electronica type music and now listen to a lot of electro rock/synthpop/new wave/industrial, Japanese pop/city pop/future funk, video game OSTs from Nintendo/Sega/Retro/Indie stuff, and older alternative and classic rock. I can see where people are coming from on why they hate it. I also didn't know until now that Halsey and MGK are trying to bring back that pop punk sound as I stopped following top 40 chart pop music many years ago.
Great video. Pop punk is part of my big 3 with prog and alt metal. I love the feel and the sound, and there can be some cool riffs and interesting progressions. That said, along with #5 being a thing with pretty much every genre, I feel like #3 is the only valid complaint to have with pop punk since I feel a lot of people within the community feel like you need to commit to a formula in order to truly be pop punk, and that's something I think holds the genre back from growing. One reason why Bayside is one of my favorite bands is because they don't fall into that trap. Outside of that, I always rolled my eyes at the purists and the stereotyping.
I think it’s really cool that artists like MGK, Halsey, and Yungblud are taking the style and turning it into mainstream hits. I think this also proves that the idea of a solo artist is more marketable than a band.
I would be curious to see a reasons why about Post-Grunge since I feel that's the one genre I've never seen anyone defend. I wouldn't go as far as say I'm in love with it, but I feel there are also certain bands with that label that are better than some people give credit for.
The reason why I can only listen to a few bands is because of the vocals. There are a few exceptions of course, but most of these vocalists are just not very good and all try the whiny voice thing that just doesnt cut it for me.
Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Sum 41, and Paramore all sound completely different from each other. First and foremost, COMPLETELY different vocal styles and guitar tunings. Patrick Stump sings soul, Tom Delonge's singing is ENTIRELY unique to him, and BJ's voice is also entirely his own. Fall Out Boy loves drop D, Green Day used Eb, and a lot of bands use standard tuning. Travis Barker is a fanominal drummer and so is Tre. There's also some really good guitar players in the pop punk scene as well. For having literally no lessons ever, Tom Delonge is really good at guitar. And hating their hometowns and exes? Hmmm. I feel like that's actually not as common as you may think. Green Day really didn't do this at all. Blink 182's songs were pretty much satirical and comedic on purpose and weren't really like dead serious songs. Sum 41 straight up didn't do this. The pop punk stigma of it only being like a C5, G5, F5 three chord progression the entire song is blatantly false. Literally no bands do this. There are melodies being played. If you look at a song like Dammit, probably half of that song is lead. The DIY scene is straight up dead. The only way you can operate a DIY venue is if you have a secondary income. Labels don't make money in the DIY scene either and bands certainly dont make much money. There will be maybe 20 people at your shows.
Yea I dont really know where the “all pop punk bands sound the same”. You could listen to one FOB, MCR, and Paramore song and instantly tell in their other songs what band it is.
If I could give this comment more likes or favorite it, I definitely would. Very well said. Btw, I’ve noticed the common chord progression is Bm, D, A, G. Not all songs but a lot of them do use these chords not necessarily in the same order though. Who charges either way? Good music is still good music right?
@@CAVFIFTEEN idk dude I don't think THAT many songs are just the same chord progression in pop punk. Idk any of them that are Bm, D, A, G, but if you know a lot of songs that are like that, that's cool. There probably are a lot of songs that are like that. But like you said, who the fuck actually cares? Good music is still good music, exactly.
While I don't listen to a lot of Pop Punk, I can really understand some of these critiques. Now that I'm seeing this, I'd like to hear you talk about 5 or more reasons why people hate Nu-Metal. I say/suggest Nu-Metal specifically because it seems to be the genre that gets the most hate by metal elitists and people in general who like Heavy Metal music.
Every phase of pop punk is legit imo! Every new band that releases new music such as Neck Deep, Stand Atlantic, State Champs, etc, keep bringing value to the genre. Also, we're crossing our fingers in hope that MGK encourages a new pop punk mainstream revival 🤞 Note: We're a pop punk band from Portugal, in case you're interested 😋🙏
Love the recommendations! Some of them are amongst of my favourites. Also curious to ask if The Story so Far has grown on you since you recommended them?
First, I don't want to split hairs about this but I don't understand why it's called Punk at all. All I can say is that "Pop Punk" is a term for an alternative rock style that started in the 90s. I don't like it because it doesn't have an edge. I just think it's boring.
I’d agree with some of these statements as someone in a pop punk band about to drop our album I feel now it’s all about standing out. We as a group all like hardcore so we have hardcore elements in our songs but there’s only so many notes you can play so it’s hard to recreate the wheel too.
I think I’ve experienced way more gatekeepers then fan boys, but I definitely get it. I was never a die hard pop punk fan but I was for Easy Core so they kind of go hand in hand
Reasons people love K-Pop 1. Been tired of boring Western popstar and mumble rapper 2. Having good live performance, outstanding stage presence and energetic choreo 3. Makes people wanna ''dance'' even though they don't know any single word 4. K-Pop is visual music, so it does entertain our eyes 5. K-Pop idols are talented, trained hard and discipline Reasons why people hate K-Pop 1. They all look the same (the concept, the hairstyle, the look) 2. Lipsyncing *not always 3. The way label treats idols (idols=puppet) *not always 4. Tight competition and strict rules 5. Plastic surgery
Honestly, I’m mostly a fan of R&B, soul, funk, rap, jazz, and electronic. Not big into most heavy rock stuff, but in moderation it’s okay, I like Ska Punk and Nu Metal for example. Edit: outdated because I occasionally listen to other kinds of heavy rock music
When you say “heavy rock”, do you mean “Led Zeppelin heavy” or “Black Sabbath proto-doom metal-type heavy”? Pop punk is the lightest rock-related genre you can think of. Not heavy in the slightest? It’s faux-punk.
@The Hive Productions That makes no sense. Have you ever heard of soft rock? Pop rock? Folk rock? Rock and Roll? Pop Punk is way heavier than any of that. I think you have the idea in your head that heavy always means good, but it doesn’t. Most Pop Punk is crap, and that’s heavy, same with a good amount of the heavier end of metal because by then it’s mostly shrieking and mindless noises, grindcore or whatever. Meanwhile many amazing music genres and bands exist that are not even slightly heavy
I love pop punk and I don't care what anyone else thinks. I pretty much only listen to rock, all types of rock, but pop punk will always be an important genre to me.
I think I’m kind of detached from the scene. I’m a huge fan but literally none of my friends are. I had no idea this was the stereotype of the community. At concerts, I tend to strike up conversations with people around me and I’ve never felt anything but welcoming positivity, so this video was surprising. I’ve never experienced gate keeping. Hopefully I’m not alone!
I agree with a lot of your opinions in this video. Have you ever listened to the Descendents? (They also considered, by a good amount of people, purveyors of pop punk).
Blink-182 is my favorite pop-punk group of all-time they were the trailblazers and their humor from the early to late 1990’s Enema of the State from ‘99 is THE pop-punk album!!!
Basically for me, it was great when the genre exploded when I was younger... I still enjoy a lot of the bands I grew up listening to, there’s a few decent bands out there now, a few great tunes coming out of the scene here and there, but it’s definitely sort of plateaued sonically. That’s why I’m such a fan of Tom Delonge, he’s always been trying to push the genre further, bring in more eclectic and modern sounds, he’s always been kind of on the cusp of (modern) new-wave if you know what I mean. Hoping the new AVA album delivers... Now it’s like all I see anymore are a bunch of bands still just wanting to play their guitar and drums and not do anything to expand on the music. I’ll give Belmont some props though with some of their stuff, some of their instrumentals really break into prog-metalcore territory, something like ERRA, and that’s pretty dope... but man, there’s not a whole lot of genuinely interesting things going on in the genre anymore. Just bands pumping out more of the same and legacy acts putting out glorified throwback/legacy albums or whatever... Been there, done that.
Why people hate nu metal: 1. Its heavy overexposure on TRL and Rock Radio back in the day (I mean for god’s sake Freak On A Leash was 1 spot higher than Baby One More Time In The 1999 TRL year end countdown) 2. Purists that think that it killed metal 3. The lyrics that people often find whiny and unintentionally hilarious 4. The often very cringy rapping Why people hate post grunge: 1. The vocals 2. The heavy overexposure on both pop and rock radio 3. The faux deep lyrics 4. Everyone considering it a bastardization Of grunge
I'm into Thrash Metal, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Classic Heavy Metal, Prog Metal and some Numetal I like early blink-182 and Green day songs like Longview which is my favorite Green day song because of the bassline I think people hate Pop punk because of the Vans warped tour and other reasons like the Pop punk clothing style of the late 90's and early 2000's
I just hate pop punk because well, it’s not punk. As I don’t mean that in a douchy elitist way. I meant that in a punk lover kind of way. The reason I liked punk rock was because it was fast paced and aggressive. Seriously, go put on pennywise. You’d be lying if you said it didn’t make you wanna jump in that pit and go bat shit. I liked blink 182s style of pop punk. It was still fast paced and you could really get a pit going. Now it’s so slow, jumpy, and just. It doesn’t sound like anything punk. That’s what I liked about Blink 182 was it was still punk! These new pop punk bands so absolutely nothing like punk. They sound like something you’d hear on a top pop station
Another new pop punk band that is worth everyone's time who like the genre are Last Night Saved My Life. They are quite a small band but they are just so talented.
I prefer not to go into subcategories of punk, metal or rock too much and just listen to whichever band I like under these broad categories . This keeps you out of the argument and you can just listen to whatever the hell you like
How do you feel about pop punk? These are 5 general reasons I've found from diving through the intergalactic highway to find out why people seem to hate the genre so much...
Can you do a list of reasons why people hate Nu Metal?
Vinteler Alin *50 minute video*
Vinteler Alin good idea
Also do one for post gurnge
I love pop punk, but I can't stand the whiny 'pop punk voice' that some leads put on
The reason new bands aren't popular anymore is because pop punk fans won't let the go of the older bands. If the fans cant give the new bands a chance, this genre will never come back.
you can say the same about metal fans
That's Rock and Metal fans in general
If the new bands sounds like 00s bands then i give em a chance
Greg Khar Punkerz no the genre dosent need to sound like it did 20 years go I don’t like the direction it’s gone in but I don’t want it to be the same shit over and over either we’ve had that already
I just don't think the new bands are very good 🤷
There's a quote from Billie Joe Armstrong relating to 6:13: "You can take us out of punk but you can't take the punk out of us."
yeah, they took out the punk themselves
and then they released father of all
man i have never heard any green day bad song untill father of all album.
@@dreamofyouandi I mean, its not *that* bad. Sugar Youth is a very good song. Other than that, I'm not a huge fan of the album
Still listening to Greenday but only their pre-american idiot albums.
*I hate this town, my parents, and life is crashing down around me intensifies*
*insert any less than Jake opening*
I started singing *it's so washed up and all my friends don't give a fuck*
Different types of pop punk and where the bands belong:
Skate pop punk: pre-Self Titled Blink, All Killer era Sum 41, The Offspring
Power pop punk: Bowling For Soup, Good Charlotte, Simple Plan
The poppiest side of the genre: All American Rejects, Boys Like Girls, early 5SOS, Busted, Nothing Personal-era All Time Low
“Heavier” pop punk: Billy Talent, Does This Look Infected era Sum 41, Neck Deep (Before These god awful new singles), The Story So Far, A Day To Remember, Wonder Years
“Emo” inspired pop punk: early FOB, All We Know-era Paramore
Dark pop punk: Three Cheers-era MCR, Alkaline Trio
Often mistaken as pop punk: Avril Lavigne, Panic! At The Disco
Sad Boi pop punk: Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Real Friends, Mayday Parade (even though they were around, before that term was a thing)
(That’s All I’ve got)
Sadboi pop punk? Real Friends, Knuckle Puck, Man Overboard, Mayday Parade, etc.
Isnt green day pop punk?
@@josepablodeleon6073 Mayday Parade was a thing WAY before sadboi was a thing
@fantastic Nevin I think they’re closer to punk rock
@fantastic Nevin They are But I’m not sure where I would put them
part of me wishes pop punk could make a comeback but it probably won't happen ://
The last pop punk adjacent song to hit the mainstream was Love Drunk by Boys Like Girls and that came out 11 years ago and the last full blown pop punk track to hit the mainstream was Misery Business, which came out 13 years ago, let that sink in
I doubt we’re gonna see it for a while, but I have hope
I am in a band I want us to be pop punk lmaoo
Jason LovesABR Yeah.
Jason LovesABR You could throw in The Story So Far, too, as their last album reached #19 on the Billboard 200. Also, Neck Deep’s, “The Peace and the Panic”, debuted at #4 on the Billboard 200 in both the US and UK back in 2017.
It makes me laugh how a lot of people think that every pop punk song is like All Signs Point to Lauderdale by A Day to Remember.
I'm excited about the new era of pop punk! Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, With Confidence, etc... are all killing it rn and I like MGK's new sound and how he blends his rapper personality with his rocker side. Even older groups like All Time Low and Blink are still killing it imo
Blink? Realy their literally a parody of them selves at this point they’ve turned in to the Verry thing they made fun of when they were younger
Tom Delonge decided to change cause he didn't fit in blink, now AvA is a great band but the new blink is not great. I'm not sure if I even should argue but you just need to listen to Nine to understand a lot of today's bands are better. I love blink but blink with skibba is not that great at all, even if it's not the worst band
All in all it's just a matter of taste
not mgk or yungblud. please god no.
New era of pop punk??? Lol dude those bands gave pop punk a revival in like 2012-2017, but its already dead again
In my humble opinion, Belmont is an underrated band in the genre.
I didn't mind early punk like The Ramones, Buzzcocks, etc. But I hate it now...The emo pop punk and pop punk in general drives me insane. The fact that the genre is more popular than let's say, power metal, pisses me off like no other.
I’m with you on that. True punk to me are bands like The Sex Pistols, The Ramones, Bad Brains, The Clash (from 1977 to 1979), The Buzzcocks, Television, Bikini Kill, Black Flag, and The Damned. Many recent post-punk bands (Squid, Parquet Courts, shame, etc.) are doing more for punk than most if not all pop punk bands from the mid-90s and the 2000s.
Descendants did the whole "poppy" sounding punk thing without selling out, in the 80s.
Wait people hate pop punk? My 50 year old dad who loves 50s and 60s music loves pop punk. I don't understand why people wouldn't like it
And the vocals and guitar riffs
The Reverse -Flash anyone can make grunge look at Courtney love lol
cheesy commercialised punk for edgy teens
It all depends of tastes
The Reverse -Flash let’s hear your new songs
Pop punk was the first genre of music i really got into and for that i have much respect for the genre. GreenDay and Blink for example were the first bands i fully engaged with as a 10 year old
hopefully the genre has a good future with some really good bands popping up such as Stand Atlantic and even Waterparks really bringing in a varied fan base
I think my problem with a lot of pop punk is that a lot of it sounds very samey, with very similar riffs, guitar tuning, tempos, and drum patterns. There's definitely some good pop punk out there (like the ones you mentioned), but most just seem to fall into the same boat as modern rap for me.
Check out the band named ALL if you want a non-generic pop punk sound. They're basically like a progressive pop punk band instead of a yet-another-ramones-clone.
I used to listen to pop punk, but now I listen to more “real”/hardcore/anarcho punk. I think what bothers those who listen to heavier punk genres is that when most people think of punk nowadays, they think of pop punk instead. If i were to tell someone i listened to punk, they would likely think i mean green day, blink 182, or any other similar sounding bands, even though that isn’t what i listen to. I just would like to see more people differentiating punk and pop punk.
This is exactly my feeling to mainstream Rap as well. When I say I listen to Hip-Hop, I mean MF DOOM, Grandmaster Flash, ICP or some Gorillaz songs, not Lil Wayne, Lil Pump or Cardi B (yuck !).
Pop punk is better than mumble rap
Literally anything is better than mumble rap.
Thrash metal is better than both of them f**king Slayer
The sound of wet shit hitting a hardwood floor is better than mumble rap.
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Slayer music is boring in my opinion
Okay but mumble rap isn't the major form rap or the most popular lyrical or conscious rap is
'Pop Punk is an oxymoron. The two genres were never meant to mix.'
Have these people heard of a band called Ramones?
Yes, ramones, but descendents, schreeching weasel, jawbreacker too.
Sex Pistols as well
sure, but the ethos is still anti-mainstream now. it evolved past the days of the ramones and the pistols
Pop punk has so many talented musicians. The reason I think pop punk is hated is because the whiny vocal style, the same sound all over again and the songs get so annoying when you play it again and again.
The reason I hate it is because it ruins everything about punk rock. It takes that hard angry sound that was built up in the 70s and 80s and makes it accessible and cooperate
Thank you
Pop punk didn't "evolve from punk rock" it evolved from pop
and there's nothing wrong with pop music if that's what someone likes but it isn't punk rock
Punk rock is rooted in anger and struggle, pop punk is rooted in mild inconvenice
Personally I usually label it all as rock music. All Time Low is hands down my favorite band and really got me into the scene. But even before them I loved Blink, Green Day, and BFS.
I don’t really get the concept that “oh they’re too whinny”. Yeah, people have problems and they need artists and such to relate to in those times. And that’s the thing. If I were to say pop punk is one thing, it’s relatable above everything else. Most bands have artists that are just normal looking people singing about their hopes, dreams, fears, love, loss, etc.
I live in Florida and I don’t care for it here so I can totally relate to to the “wanna leave this town and start a new life” kinda music. And come on! Who hasn’t had their heart broken, felt like the weird kid , hell even been the weird kid (or adult) and felt like they don’t belong and no one understands them? If you’ve never felt these things then I’m happy for you but those of us that are more emotional and deal with these things (some people daily) NEED people they can relate and look up to.
I used to hate the term “emo” but now I love it because what does it ultimately mean? Emotional. And for me at least it’s amazing when you hear others express their emotions and you can think like “oh shit. They understand how I feel”. Hell The new emo rap is starting to grow on me because instead of being about “drugs, bitches, and gang life” (not saying all rap is but a lot of it’s out there) it’s about emotional highs and lows. Like Juice WRLD’s “Lucid Dreams” for example. And yes. I dig what MGK’s doing rn too.
In regards to the gate keeping, yeah that’s a problem you get with all purists of all fandoms. I’m not sure if there’s a way to actually change that but I also wish people were more open minded. I love the twist on rock music that Waterparks brings to the table for example. They hate being called pop punk so I’ll refrain from that but they definitely have elements of pop punk for sure. Yet, Awstens’ delivery in a lot of the songs is very akin to rapping and they have a fair amount of electronic stylings as well.
For those saying “it’s too simplistic, anyone can do it” first off, I implore you. Please. Go do it then if it’s so easy. Second, that’s definitely part of the charm. This idea that “hey these people are like me and maybe I have a chance at being as big as them and doing what I love for a living like they are”. That alone is so incredible and inspirational. And that’s ultimately why I say pop punk at its core is about one thing above all else. Relatability. For that, I believe it is extremely important that the genre continues and strives (unless something similar over takes it). But for now, I think it’s definitely here to stay.
That is probably the best description of pop punk I’ve ever heard
Pop Punk made a huge comeback
@Mexican seafood Pop Punk made a comeback
@Mexican seafood no
I honestly really like Pop Punk, though i'm pretty picky about it. Though, I'm loving the pop punk bands that have been fusing into different genres or adding new influences like Waterparks, Stand Atlantic, As It Is, and Broadside.
This describes me pretty well, got into the genre pretty late (2016), can’t stand heavier sounds or late 2000s with whiny voices (sleeping with sirens )
Pop punk is my favorite genre. Half of the bands I'm into follow that genre, and I made a pop punk band that Jon is aware of when we chatted once.
For me personally I’m 100% a pop punk kid!! I love it so much!!
U got my back bro
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Whiny and easy to make? And trap rap isn’t? Pop punk at least have some deep lyrics and guitars...
I’d rather hear something relatable about a girl breaking up with me than hearing, money money drugs killing people screwing chicks n word n word.
Kaden Lewis racist
Kaden Lewis also sorry you don’t get money or girls bro
Making trap beat is just as hard (maybe harder) as it is to make pop punk song
you don't know what you're talking about. making beats IS hard. rapping IS hard. rap actually has A LOT of deep lyrics. lots of trap rap also has guitars. a lot of the newer trap rap is heavily influenced by pop punk and emo, and the lyrical content is much the same.
I personally love pop punk as a genre. Green Day, Paramore, Blink-182, Sum 41, and Rise Against (even though they're more melodic hardcore than pop punk) are some of my favorite bands. I also love my share of songs from Fall Out Boy, MCR, All American Rejects, New Found Glory, etc.
I think the main reason why people dislike it is due to the similarity in lyrics as well as the fact that it takes an underground genre and makes it more accessible. It's why most metalheads tend to hate 80s glam metal. Personally, that doesn't mean much to me because a lot of these bands aren't trying to be hardcore like Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, or Misfits. They happen to write catchy songs with a lot of attitude with the instrumentation. Pop punk isn't supposed to be as complex or musically interesting as other genres (even though Green Day & the Fueled By Ramen bands wanted to push the genre's boundaries in the 2000s). It's its own fun little thing that I happen to really appreciate.
Pop Punk was my gateway drug into metal core and post hardcore. In the early 2000’s and even parts of the 2010’s a lot of these bands with different styles toured together. Is pop punk my favorite genre? I don’t know maybe. It’s definitely the one I’m most comfortable with and feel like I know the most about. I do owe pop punk music for bringing me into situations where I discovered other great genres.
Pop punk got me into music
Do videos on obscure genres of punk. Like Celtic Punk. Bands like Dropkick Murphys, Flogging Molly, The Pogues. Or do videos on Horror Punk (The Misfits) and Psychobilly. These genres of Punk never get talked about.
Personally, I just call anything that sounds punk, punk. That way no one can complain.
Love pop punk. Fall Out Boy, All American Rejects, Paramore, Green Day and more have been some of the most memorable bands I've ever listened to. Although I like experimenting with Alt music a bit more, even Indie: Pop punk has a place in my heart.
returning to pop punk now is like reuniting with an old childhood friend you haven’t seen in years, nice to reminisce and feel nostalgic but it just isn’t the same anymore.
For me it dosen't matter, Pop Punk Or Punk it dosen't matter, they are both awesome in my opinion.
I feel like pop punk isn’t an oxymoron. The big 3 of 70’s punk (Ramones, Clash, Sex Pistols) were all pretty successful and to this day get airplay on rock stations. They were pop bands at the time. Punk only started to become an insular scene in the 80’s when the hardcore movement started to pick up steam.
If no punk purists criticize The Clash for making obvious pop songs like Rock the Casbah or criticize The Ramones for having very pop-centric melodies, why do they criticize post-1990 pop punk bands for doing the same thing? It's totally hypocritical.
philly_ sports Absolutley
philly_ sports pretty sure some Clash fans hate Rock the Casbah. Joe Strummer even considered leaving the band after the songs success
When something that only relates to people who consider themselves outcasts becomes mainstream, they feel like it was taken away from them as if they had a right to it in the first place.
How comic purists react to the MCU is a good example of this. You can find plenty of this gatekeeping nonsense on places reddit and iFunny too. They’re currently doing it with ATLA (Avatar the Last Airbender) because it’s popular on Netflix now. Unfortunately it’s just they way things go once something originally niche becomes mainstream
Identifying a genre by its popularity was always idiotic. The sound alone should define the genre.
Idk why but I want an edited video of this and it's just every time you say pop punk
I have nothing against pop punk... but I hate it😂 To me, the genre simply does not appeal to me. The vocals are consistently annoying to my ears. They are either whiney sounding or the cheesy chorus melodies just repulse me. I do like a lot of post punk and more unhinged punk but I wouldn't consider myself an elitist. Music is all subjective and while I hate pop punk, I would actively encourage anyone who loves it to keep listening! I'm of the mindset of spreading the love of MUSIC as a whole, not just a genre.
And because you can be open minded, understanding, and accepting of the fact that while something isn’t for you doesn’t mean it’s bad so you can let others enjoy it, you are going about this in the right way.
As such I can honestly say I respect your opinion yet disagree. To each their own.
BRUHHH POP PUNK IS ONE OF THE BEST GENRES. I grew up with this and even though it’s kinda dying I still love it so much.
ujungxluv It’s not dying. It’s just underground.
U got my back!
Made me happy to see the Belmont love, they're one of the most innovative pop punk bands out there right now!
Agree! I can’t wait to see what else they do as all their stuff so far has been so interesting
@@eris.mp4 definitely! Ive had their latest ep on repeat for over a month
Punk rock elitists disliked the shit out of it.
I used to hate pop punk but after you find the type on bands in the genre you like it can be one of the most rewarding...still there’s so much pop punk I can’t stand. But the gems are all you really need
I love pop rock, pop punk, alternative rock, "pure" pop and contemporary R&B. I hate EDM and dubstep.
There’s a lot of new pop punk bands that are pushing the boundaries a bit or are at least getting there. Stand Atlantic, Between You & Me, Trash Boat, and With Confidence all have great debut albums! I’m also super excited for mgks new album too :)
There's another reason why it's almost fashionable to hate pop punk - it's melodic. The very term 'pop' punk is almost a derogatory description...ie. it's not real punk, it's pop punk. Pop, and melody in general, is seen now as something "those crappy mainstream songs have" so the tendency for bands and fans is to steer away from melody and go for something more extreme instead. It's crazy. The Ramones were melodic. The Damned were melodic. Even the Sex Pistols were melodic. Punk was effectively old rock & roll on steroids. It was only later, in the 80s, that hardcore punk redefined what a lot of people in the USA call punk. I would concede that a lot of pop punk bands from the very late 90s onwards did sound incredibly generic, and the vocals were whiny in their delivery, but I think if bands of all genres could lose their fear of writing a song that's 'catchy', the music world would be a better place.
People secretly love catchy melodies but openly hate it as they realize that's what people love, so liking it doesn't make you look "edgy" enough
Make zero sense but that's what punk rock poser mentality all about: It's just about image and identity, music doesn't even matter, the real reason why punk is dead, and well deserved
@@Kiakaha-v2o Metal has gone down that same route, but somehow it retains a degree of popularity - maybe because there are big metal bands still playing and drawing fans in. With punk, the attitude seems far worse in the USA, where many seem stuck with the idea that it's aggressive hardcore or nothing. In the UK, in contrast, Rumkicks could all but fill the main hall for a terrible 2pm slot at the Rebellion Festival, despite them being women, playing catchy punk, and usually not even singing in English.
@@RevStickleback In the other hand metal is still envolving, despite being controversial, djent is the new thing, originated from a subgenre which nickname is "musical wankfest". I guess diversity can really keep a genre live
I'm not too crazy about machine gun kelly's pop punk project but at least he's bringing some attention to the genre which imo is needed
Even though it’s become one of my favorite genres of music over the past 4 years, I can definitely get why some people dislike or even hate pop punk and especially for the reasons pointed out here.
Bowling for Soup literally had a song called My Hometown.
Nobody hates Pop-Punk just ask all my friends.
your friends dont, a lot of people do lmao
I get the last point but also hate it cause I've never liked the idea of hating something because of it's fandom.
Cause let's be real...most fandoms for anything, be it a band, a genre of music, a tv show, a game, etc. are almost always toxic in their own way. Or at least have toxic people in them.
Either way my only issue with pop-punk has been that some artists are just very derivative of others in the genre. That said you get acts like Say Anything or Brand New (sorta) or PUP or something that distinguish themselves
I would say, much like with metal, the fans and gatekeeping is why some people hate the genre. Newer acts being shit on by fans who gatekeep what the genre is about or clang on to older acts so the genre never gets a chance to revive itself or evolve. Rap/hiphop gets the same treatment to an extent, but not as badly which is why we still see rap and hiphop in the mainstream with different subgenres appearing. Who knows, we might see a comeback
You should definitely do a vid about Emo Rap that posits the same question
I wish they could acknowledge "emo" rap for the "dark" kind that it is. Emo is too firm and can't be as diverse as metal is. Even nu metal has some ties to the roots. "Emo" rap doesn't.
@@Crawlingdreams418 Emo rap is as deep as a kiddie pool, in my eyes.
@@quentinbringthenumetalchil5125 well most emo rappers well the modern ones, are influenced by trap rap and not dissing trap but it's not the best genre, to be influenced by when making a emo offshoot of a genre.
There's a pretty good band from Australia called Yours Truly who have this kind of Pop-Punk vibe. Figured I'd give them a mention :)
i agree!!!
I mean, Pop Punk is what introduced me to Punk. I, actually, think it's my favorite genre of music. Yeah, most of it sounds similar with similar themes, but I kind of don't mind that. When I listen to Pop Punk, I usually know what I'm getting in to, even if I've never heard the song before. You can dislike that, sure, but I like some certainty in my life.
also I’m a Kpop Stan and I agree on how Kpop fans gatekeep lmfao. well the things you do for your faves I guess
I don't like K pop, but at least they are doing very good things on twitter right now.
I'm a kpop fan too and it's kind of sad when the minority group of a large fandom gets all the attention and they make us all look bad
o! i knew i couldn’t be the only person who liked both pop punk and kpop (:
What music visualizer do you use to listen to music? I might need one
Kauna.
I'm not really a fan of pop punk except for Green Day. I feel I've outgrown it as a genre and I do feel a lot of it is pretty simplistic. But I do respect it's cultural relevance and how it can be a vehicle to exposing people to more interesting and challenging styles of music.
First band named in the pop punk genre, stand Atlantic, thank god they are getting some recognition, they are so good
What are your thoughts on saves the day, taking back Sunday, brand new, the used, and stray light run?
Stand Atlantic, Knuckle Puck, Belmont, Hot Mulligan (my personal favorite jam right now,) Neck Deep (specifically “Life’s Not Out to Get You”) there are a ton of great up and coming pop punk bands these days that are really making good music and definitely more technical music.
Although my music taste was founded on pop punk back when I was in high school and still has a place in my heart plus my fashion style is still influenced by it at my age of 27, I haven't listen to it as much over the years due to my music taste expanding into other directions especially into more electronica type music and now listen to a lot of electro rock/synthpop/new wave/industrial, Japanese pop/city pop/future funk, video game OSTs from Nintendo/Sega/Retro/Indie stuff, and older alternative and classic rock. I can see where people are coming from on why they hate it. I also didn't know until now that Halsey and MGK are trying to bring back that pop punk sound as I stopped following top 40 chart pop music many years ago.
Great video. Pop punk is part of my big 3 with prog and alt metal. I love the feel and the sound, and there can be some cool riffs and interesting progressions. That said, along with #5 being a thing with pretty much every genre, I feel like #3 is the only valid complaint to have with pop punk since I feel a lot of people within the community feel like you need to commit to a formula in order to truly be pop punk, and that's something I think holds the genre back from growing. One reason why Bayside is one of my favorite bands is because they don't fall into that trap.
Outside of that, I always rolled my eyes at the purists and the stereotyping.
I think it’s really cool that artists like MGK, Halsey, and Yungblud are taking the style and turning it into mainstream hits. I think this also proves that the idea of a solo artist is more marketable than a band.
I would be curious to see a reasons why about Post-Grunge since I feel that's the one genre I've never seen anyone defend. I wouldn't go as far as say I'm in love with it, but I feel there are also certain bands with that label that are better than some people give credit for.
The reason why I can only listen to a few bands is because of the vocals. There are a few exceptions of course, but most of these vocalists are just not very good and all try the whiny voice thing that just doesnt cut it for me.
I love UK hardcore which is a lot different to US hardcore. Where do you rate Bad Religion? I love them,but are they punk or pop in your opinion?
Offspring, Green Day, Blink 182, My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Sum 41, and Paramore all sound completely different from each other. First and foremost, COMPLETELY different vocal styles and guitar tunings. Patrick Stump sings soul, Tom Delonge's singing is ENTIRELY unique to him, and BJ's voice is also entirely his own. Fall Out Boy loves drop D, Green Day used Eb, and a lot of bands use standard tuning. Travis Barker is a fanominal drummer and so is Tre. There's also some really good guitar players in the pop punk scene as well. For having literally no lessons ever, Tom Delonge is really good at guitar.
And hating their hometowns and exes? Hmmm. I feel like that's actually not as common as you may think. Green Day really didn't do this at all. Blink 182's songs were pretty much satirical and comedic on purpose and weren't really like dead serious songs. Sum 41 straight up didn't do this.
The pop punk stigma of it only being like a C5, G5, F5 three chord progression the entire song is blatantly false. Literally no bands do this. There are melodies being played. If you look at a song like Dammit, probably half of that song is lead.
The DIY scene is straight up dead. The only way you can operate a DIY venue is if you have a secondary income. Labels don't make money in the DIY scene either and bands certainly dont make much money. There will be maybe 20 people at your shows.
Yea I dont really know where the “all pop punk bands sound the same”. You could listen to one FOB, MCR, and Paramore song and instantly tell in their other songs what band it is.
If I could give this comment more likes or favorite it, I definitely would.
Very well said. Btw, I’ve noticed the common chord progression is Bm, D, A, G. Not all songs but a lot of them do use these chords not necessarily in the same order though. Who charges either way? Good music is still good music right?
@@CAVFIFTEEN idk dude I don't think THAT many songs are just the same chord progression in pop punk. Idk any of them that are Bm, D, A, G, but if you know a lot of songs that are like that, that's cool. There probably are a lot of songs that are like that. But like you said, who the fuck actually cares?
Good music is still good music, exactly.
While I don't listen to a lot of Pop Punk, I can really understand some of these critiques.
Now that I'm seeing this, I'd like to hear you talk about 5 or more reasons why people hate Nu-Metal. I say/suggest Nu-Metal specifically because it seems to be the genre that gets the most hate by metal elitists and people in general who like Heavy Metal music.
which are the bands that he named in the beginning?
Most of the 90s and early 2000s stuff are kinda awful to me, but the more modern, indie rock-influenced artists have their gems
Every phase of pop punk is legit imo! Every new band that releases new music such as Neck Deep, Stand Atlantic, State Champs, etc, keep bringing value to the genre.
Also, we're crossing our fingers in hope that MGK encourages a new pop punk mainstream revival 🤞
Note: We're a pop punk band from Portugal, in case you're interested 😋🙏
Make one of these vids on modern rap.
Love the recommendations! Some of them are amongst of my favourites. Also curious to ask if The Story so Far has grown on you since you recommended them?
Bonsai trees eh? You give me something new, I give you something new. Junior Battles (very underrated act)
I love your suggestions and recommendations. I would recommend them myself!
I would love to see an episode like this for metalcore
Agreed! Especially for Metalcore in the 2010s.
Agreed
First, I don't want to split hairs about this but I don't understand why it's called Punk at all. All I can say is that "Pop Punk" is a term for an alternative rock style that started in the 90s. I don't like it because it doesn't have an edge. I just think it's boring.
I’d agree with some of these statements as someone in a pop punk band about to drop our album I feel now it’s all about standing out. We as a group all like hardcore so we have hardcore elements in our songs but there’s only so many notes you can play so it’s hard to recreate the wheel too.
Pop Punk Is Getting To The Present Era, Sounds More Modern And In My Opinion, It Is Increasingly Becoming A Pure Pop Song.
I think I’ve experienced way more gatekeepers then fan boys, but I definitely get it. I was never a die hard pop punk fan but I was for Easy Core so they kind of go hand in hand
5 reasons why people LOVE kpop
5 reasons why people HATE kpop
Reasons people love K-Pop
1. Been tired of boring Western popstar and mumble rapper
2. Having good live performance, outstanding stage presence and energetic choreo
3. Makes people wanna ''dance'' even though they don't know any single word
4. K-Pop is visual music, so it does entertain our eyes
5. K-Pop idols are talented, trained hard and discipline
Reasons why people hate K-Pop
1. They all look the same (the concept, the hairstyle, the look)
2. Lipsyncing *not always
3. The way label treats idols (idols=puppet) *not always
4. Tight competition and strict rules
5. Plastic surgery
people’s misconceptions about the fanbase are definitely a hate reason
What’s the song in the intro?
Link is in the video description
Honestly, I’m mostly a fan of R&B, soul, funk, rap, jazz, and electronic. Not big into most heavy rock stuff, but in moderation it’s okay, I like Ska Punk and Nu Metal for example.
Edit: outdated because I occasionally listen to other kinds of heavy rock music
When you say “heavy rock”, do you mean “Led Zeppelin heavy” or “Black Sabbath proto-doom metal-type heavy”? Pop punk is the lightest rock-related genre you can think of. Not heavy in the slightest? It’s faux-punk.
@The Hive Productions
That makes no sense. Have you ever heard of soft rock? Pop rock? Folk rock? Rock and Roll? Pop Punk is way heavier than any of that. I think you have the idea in your head that heavy always means good, but it doesn’t. Most Pop Punk is crap, and that’s heavy, same with a good amount of the heavier end of metal because by then it’s mostly shrieking and mindless noises, grindcore or whatever. Meanwhile many amazing music genres and bands exist that are not even slightly heavy
I love pop punk and I don't care what anyone else thinks.
I pretty much only listen to rock, all types of rock, but pop punk will always be an important genre to me.
I think I’m kind of detached from the scene. I’m a huge fan but literally none of my friends are. I had no idea this was the stereotype of the community. At concerts, I tend to strike up conversations with people around me and I’ve never felt anything but welcoming positivity, so this video was surprising. I’ve never experienced gate keeping. Hopefully I’m not alone!
I used to hate pop punk, but after listing to green day, ever since then I have been loving pop punk
There's a few songs that actually talk about loving their hometown
Thoughts about Jeff Rosenstock and his old band Bomb The Music Industry?
Can't stand pop punk. Never did, never will.
I agree with a lot of your opinions in this video. Have you ever listened to the Descendents? (They also considered, by a good amount of people, purveyors of pop punk).
1:54 yes! Four year strong is such an underrated band.
I love a lot of pop punk bands! I don't get why people get so upset about other peoples' musical tastes.
Blink-182 is my favorite pop-punk group of all-time they were the trailblazers and their humor from the early to late 1990’s Enema of the State from ‘99 is THE pop-punk album!!!
Basically for me, it was great when the genre exploded when I was younger... I still enjoy a lot of the bands I grew up listening to, there’s a few decent bands out there now, a few great tunes coming out of the scene here and there, but it’s definitely sort of plateaued sonically.
That’s why I’m such a fan of Tom Delonge, he’s always been trying to push the genre further, bring in more eclectic and modern sounds, he’s always been kind of on the cusp of (modern) new-wave if you know what I mean. Hoping the new AVA album delivers...
Now it’s like all I see anymore are a bunch of bands still just wanting to play their guitar and drums and not do anything to expand on the music. I’ll give Belmont some props though with some of their stuff, some of their instrumentals really break into prog-metalcore territory, something like ERRA, and that’s pretty dope... but man, there’s not a whole lot of genuinely interesting things going on in the genre anymore. Just bands pumping out more of the same and legacy acts putting out glorified throwback/legacy albums or whatever... Been there, done that.
5 Reasons Why People LOVE Post Rock, IDM or Black Metal.
5 Reasons Why People HATE Post Grunge(Nickelback, Creed, etc) or Nu Metal.
Why people hate nu metal:
1. Its heavy overexposure on TRL and Rock Radio back in the day (I mean for god’s sake Freak On A Leash was 1 spot higher than Baby One More Time In The 1999 TRL year end countdown)
2. Purists that think that it killed metal
3. The lyrics that people often find whiny and unintentionally hilarious
4. The often very cringy rapping
Why people hate post grunge:
1. The vocals
2. The heavy overexposure on both pop and rock radio
3. The faux deep lyrics
4. Everyone considering it a bastardization Of grunge
I'm into Thrash Metal, Power Metal, Speed Metal, Classic Heavy Metal, Prog Metal and some Numetal I like early blink-182 and Green day songs like Longview which is my favorite Green day song because of the bassline I think people hate Pop punk because of the Vans warped tour and other reasons like the Pop punk clothing style of the late 90's and early 2000's
damn I think I'm a fake poser cause I don't mosh xD Stupid knee that makes me scared of getting close to big crowds
u dont have to mosh to be a "real" punk. its a big part of the culture but its okay not to partake in it
I just hate pop punk because well, it’s not punk. As I don’t mean that in a douchy elitist way. I meant that in a punk lover kind of way. The reason I liked punk rock was because it was fast paced and aggressive. Seriously, go put on pennywise. You’d be lying if you said it didn’t make you wanna jump in that pit and go bat shit. I liked blink 182s style of pop punk. It was still fast paced and you could really get a pit going. Now it’s so slow, jumpy, and just. It doesn’t sound like anything punk. That’s what I liked about Blink 182 was it was still punk! These new pop punk bands so absolutely nothing like punk. They sound like something you’d hear on a top pop station
I love it all, if it sounds good to my ears then I’m rocking out to it regardless of criticism🤷🏾♂️💯💯
I love Pop Punk. It's the soundtrack to all Saturday mornings for me.
pop punk is all about home town beauty, nothing can beat that too.
Another new pop punk band that is worth everyone's time who like the genre are Last Night Saved My Life. They are quite a small band but they are just so talented.
I prefer not to go into subcategories of punk, metal or rock too much and just listen to whichever band I like under these broad categories . This keeps you out of the argument and you can just listen to whatever the hell you like