FINN MCCUNTY EXPOSED!!! The house of cards finally collapsed, and his fans are left holding the empty bag where their money used to be. What do you guys think of the Punk Rock MBA situation??
It does suck because there’s so many people out there that genuinely love this and care about music. And because of this one guy now it may be even harder for people in the future to get an audience like that because you got fake ass people like this ruining everything for everybody.
That whole "I've never listened to SOAD" comment is a bullshit lie. He listened to them on one of his livestreams. Said they sucked and talked down on their fans 🙄
I only watched about 20 of his videos and I really liked them I considered myself a fan. He seemed knowledgeable and passionate. I guess I was suckered. It happens to the best of us. I wasn't somebody who bought his merchandise. I don't believe that he doesn't like music and that he just did his research only through Wikipedia articles. obviously he went beyond that in some of his video.. I'm not crestfallen or anything like that but he appeared to me to be passionate and knowledgeable so I guess I was fooled.
around 4:55 i can't believe he actually exposed himself as a right-winger... like holy fuck, how can someone who markets himself as a punk adjacent content creator actually be completely against the left-wing principles of punk
I didn't watch him too much, was he really elitist? Because I remember when he was instantly roasted by Fat Mike after saying that Sublime is the best ska band. It was precious lol
Yes, is terrible. Tool is a great example. Maynard blatantly calls his fans idiots and too fan obsessed. Never liked them. Danny Carey is brilliant though and the other guys seem nice. Haha.. Whatever..!! I pay for records that I know the artists at least somewhat appreciate. And the same with the content I view on the youtube!
I feel bad for the interviewer. What do you do in that situation? That's like interviewing a vocalist of your favorite band and he says "I was in it for the money, I hate singing, I hate the songs I sing, never had a passion for it, but I made money, my lyrics mean nothing to me, in fact, people that listen to my music are numbskulls"
I honestly believe he hate part of what he did. I’m sure she had a soft spot for hard-core an old-school punk, but when it came to like pop punk and new metal, I genuinely believed he didn’t like what he did.
I personally don’t think the “I hate music and only did it for the money” thing is entirely true. In the later years of his channel, he was 100% doing it just for the money. However in the early years, he did seem genuinely passionate about the things he talked about. But as time went on, he realized that his videos about topics he was interested weren’t getting as many views as his slop Wikipedia recaps and I think that made him bitter. This interview feels like him at his breaking point and he’s finally lashing out at his audience. I guess in the end, he chose money over passion but couldn’t see that there was probably a way to balance the two.
I'm thinking the same way bro. I don't think we able to do something we don't like for that such a period of time. He can easily earn money if he choose to talks about pop artists or rappers rather than rock/metal things. It just doesn't make sense.
It just weirds me out to hear someone say that they just don't care about music. I don't get that. I know there are people like that, I just can't imagine.
I don't think it's true. There's lil tidbits here and there that were insights that you couldn't get from a Wikipedia article. I think he knows exactly what to say to piss people off, and he's using that cuz he was called out. He's trying to turn the tables and make people feel like idiots.
Same. Music has been important to me for as long as I can remember so it really makes no sense in my mind how some people don’t care about music. Like I understand maybe not having time to spend listening to and checking out new music all the time, but to not have at least a handful of bands/artists or maybe a specific genre that you enjoy and care about feels mind blowing to me.
I mean, I can imagine people who don't care enough to dig into music, to make "content" about that topic, or maybe only listen passively to the radio or top 40, but... Doesn't everyone have at least a favorite song? Doesn't everyone grow up on lullabies or children songs? How dead inside can a person be not to care about any type of music?
I mean, I don't get it either, *but...* I don't care about, for example, football. It's incredibly boring. But there are people out there who live and breath it and would probably find that weird, too. On the *other* hand, music kinda permeates our lives in ways that sports just don't. On that level, it's certainly odd to think that some people have no opinion on it.
I use to not like music until high school. I never liked top 40 pop music or rap music that was popular at the time and I didn't really care for the oldie ballad songs my parents listened too. Turns out I like heavy music. I just never got a chance to get exposed to it enough until I saw some anime AMVs back in the day. Still I do know people that are not that into music but they tend to have HUGE passions into other stuff that takes up all of their time.
Roast me all you want, but I was one of the few that has always been in Finns corner, he had some bad takes but I liked his videos and his personality, and he was super cool to me in messages too. To see him spit in the faces of the people that gave him a platform is pretty rough, I feel like I've been a bit naive defending him all this time, he's lost my respect.
No shade to you, sometimes it takes something like this to see the light. It's easy to fall for it because they're just little info videos, not much to expect. Why I didn't like him is because even with my low expectations I thought his content sucked. lol
@@TheMusicRoomWA nah man you make a good point, and I appreciate you being civil about it. I think because I'd been watching him for such a long time, and through some of my late formative years early on, I was deliberately, willingly overlooking a lot of his more questionable aspects until now. But I agree it's better to approach most things with the idea that people aren't always what they seem on the surface.
I don’t think punk rock is inherently left wing, but seeing as it was founded on left wing politics, it’s pretty ironic to hear him complain about left wingers. Beyond that, the idea that he’s gonna help people market after burning the bridges that created his platform is hilarious.
I mean, he's a marketing bro surrounded by cops and is married to a homophobic weirdo lol. Sounds like the type to be aggravated by left wing politics.
A big part of that is because Punk was founded (Mid to Late 70s) when many of the "revolutionary" takes could be found on the Left. Unfortunately, public opinion tends to take a first impression and make an extremely change-resistant monument out of it. Not only that, but aligned groups often feel like they have to support everything "their side" does, even if it goes against their original stance. EDIT: Some of this is reiterating what you already said, I'm basically expanding it, I guess.
He had a blog back in the day where he had pretty right wing views and complained about political correctness. Then when he launched Punk Rock MBA he suddenly had all politically correct opinions. He was just faking so his channel would take off.
I fuckin knew it. From the very first video I watched I got "guy who didn't know what he was talking about yet still thought he was better than you" vibes. What a poseur. I need to trust my gut instinct more, bc as of now I've been right about Mr Beast, James Charles, Jeffree Star and Colleen Ballinger.
I wish that were the case for me. I fell for Finn and the shit he was peddling hook line and sinker. Even as a lifelong music lover who should’ve theoretically seen through his bullshit straight away, I’ve also been quite gullible my whole life. I saw this guy talking about the likes of CKY and Attack Attack and seemingly praising them and was like “yoooo I vibe”. Eventually tho the more I dug into his content and his person, that rotten core became extremely obvious and impossible to ignore so I abandoned ship. Feels weirdly vindicating now that all his dirt is coming to light. Like last year’s James Somerton situation
Beeing contrarian did it for me, telling old bands they are not doing egough to be in the picture, while telling new bands that no one is making out with Britney Spears. From "metal won't be as popular" to "there's too much nostalgia" in the same video essay.
there's "i'm doing it for the money," which isn't all that uncommon, especially after years of making content, and then there's "i dont have any interest in music at all." that's a whole different level of f'd up. i was someone who subbed to him for at least a couple years. it was a fun channel for the sake of nostalgia, and introducing me to some bands i hadn't heard of before. i never thought he was some musical genius or anything, but he talked about the 90s hardcore scene well enough that i believed he was an old school hardcore/punk dude. like why would i even question it, when it's a passive viewing music content channel? it just wasn't that deep. but there's two things i hate more than most: being played a fool and disingenuous, manipulative people. the absolute brazen attitude that he has in this interview both disgusts me and pisses me off. luckily, i never gave him my money, but i feel so bad for the people who directly contributed to him financially. and now there are tons of people trying to cope saying things like, "there's no way he doesn't like music. it just cracked from all the negativity." and i'm like, what's that quote? "when someone tells you exactly who they are, believe them." well, finn has admitted to being an enormous piece of shit, so believe him. i hope all his future business endeavors fail, but considering hes putting his focus and efforts into linkedin, i don't actually have to hope. it's a pretty safe bet at this point. good riddance. ps: if theres one thing i learned, it's that i dont need to just vett my political channels or social commentary channels, but now i even have to question my music content channels. god, how extremely pathetic is that? also, what kind a sociopath "doesn't have any interest in music"? what an absolute nightmare of a human being.
Do you think people who own concrete companies are passionate about concrete? I understand your point and I agree with a lot of what you say but its good to understand from the other point of view
I'm sorry but no, people are not saying that he's coping because they feel hurt. You don't know if you didn't watch both of his channels for years as i did... Always had a problem with lot of Finn's takes and how he talked, but i watched because of the insane amount of knowledge he had about alternative culture. He was in fact part of the hardcore scene back in the day and knows lot of people in the music industry... He didn't only read Wikipedia articles when he was chatting about music with his fans on his livestreams. And i wouldn't even want to defend the guy right now because i'm so disappointed in him, but this is the truth.
I get you, and I definitely hope he fails too, but how did you not see here that he was fully lying about never liking music or the scene to begin with? That was a full on lie to try to take control back from the "haters" he himself cultivated.
He’s definitely gonna go to the hustle/grind/brocore/grift side of things. I have a feeling it’s going to be about marketing yourself, the same ol “getting out there” slop we’ve seen from influencers before
Everyone seems shocked when “MBA” was literally in his title. I’ve never met an honest “MBA” or “marketer” in my life. They’re just used car salesmen in business attire
Honestly, I'm not a native English speaker (though fluent in it from a young age), so I actually had not clue what MBA is an acronym of. Now that I know, I admit it is very obvious lol I guess many of his fans weren't native English speakers either, which means they were less prone to spot out clues for his dishonesty.
The thing is he was covering genres that he enjoyed like hard-core and what not. Towards the end He was covering genres He was not too fond of like new metal and pop punk.
While I'm not a fan of Hey Ya myself (it's just not for me and I have tried to like it for *YEARS* ), I absolutely wouldn't say it's the worst song of the 2000s
@@DiegoGonzalez-kh3ebI listen to nu metal and I think both of those songs are great. It’s not listening to nu metal that’s the “problem”, it’s when you ONLY listen to nu metal and reject other good music.
Now THIS is a name I have not heard for the past 6-7 months. I’m gonna be real, there was a time when I actually watched his stuff for the past 2 years and I thought he was a cool guy to watch, especially when checking out his vids on his second channel. But as time went on I felt something was off, like his personality and opinions on music and bands that I enjoyed started to rub me off the wrong way and pretty soon I forgot all about him and moved on. Now here I am seeing all this unfold and I have to say: It is REALLY damn satisfying seeing him get exposed.
This dude always felt off to me. He always gave off elitist, "I'm better/smarter than you" vibes. I hated how he would talk down/gatekeep certain bands and genres. I just feel for his subscribers, especially those who donated to him or bought merch. Y'all have every right to feel cheated. What he did is like the equivalent to moving away and then leaving behind nothing but a letter to your friends saying, "I never liked you anyway".
YES. I watched his videos from time to time if it was a topic I was interested in, but I wasn't a big fan of his attitude and stopped watching. Glad he quit since it was so fake anyway.
To say he doesn't care about music is a lie. He just chose to cover music he didn't like and wasn't passionate about for money and that made him bitter. Hearing him talk about the hard core and early metal core scenes he clearly loved that music and turned me onto bands that are awesome that I've never heard of before. He decided to follow the money instead of his passion and now he's crass and cynical.
Yeah it seems like he doesn't know how to cope with the fact that he made his youtube exit later than he should've. Now he's burned out and seems angry he spent so much time creating music related content so he pretends to have hated it all... which is pretty sad😢
I feel really bad for the bands and artists who paid Finn to review their song on twitch live stream and ask for advice. Getting a review of music from somebody who doesn’t give an absolute shit about music is pointless.
Will say, when I first discovered alternative music, coming from a sheltered background: Finn was a big part of me discovering a lot of bands that stick with me to this day. Truly a shame to learn it was all fake... Thanks for being the real one John, you're the king!
@@timmyrohlfs7298 I don’t think of that content itself as fake, even if his interest was faked. Even if he got a lot of content from Wikipedia, he presented it well.
I never liked him, he annoyed me when he constantly says musicians like Corey Taylor are assholes, even though Corey has shown 100’s of time how he cares about his fans, he literally hugged a fan who told him that she almost ended her life
@Qualithony_Cotentano well he does actually like pop, at least older pop like prince and Michael Jackson, he also wrote in a book of his saying that he likes jazz music, he also likes 90’s rap, so he likes all kinds of music
@ but bullying other pop musicians like the lead singer from Imagine Dragons is not ok and doesn’t make him less of a jerk. Sure Imagine Dragons’s music isn’t good but that doesn’t give anyone the right to pick on someone who does a different genre than them. It just makes them an elitist who is a bully and has a whole “I’m better than you” attitude.
This guy would always say “people think I’m some raging capitalist but I don’t think consumerism is good for our health and definitely not good for the planet” and then turns round and says “yeah I was only doing it for the money”
He has two hatebreed tattoos and there is photos of him when he was younger before his channel with very niche bands. I think he just got burnt out on UA-cam and just rage quit.
Notice how he looks to the right several times, especially when he says ‘I have no interest in music.’ Finn doing this interview just blows him up more for his new venture. Irony is this guy also makes a video about it for his own benefit
He seems to be right up there with the likes of Jack Doherty, Colleen Ballinger (god, I hate these two), and even MrBeast in this department. 2023-24 were pretty historic years for awful people getting exposed for who they really are
I still thinking about how Finn felt so secure in his future as a linkedIn social media guru that he destroyed his reputation in the community that built him up. I'm sure all the callout videos with his name on them and the words "liar" and "grifter" will be a hit with clients looking to build credibility for their brand.
I hated him as soon as I clicked on him being called Punk Rock MBA only to find out his knowledge of punk tops out at about 20% of my own. He just crucifies 'scene kids' from 2000-2010, making his fans less knowledgeable and more intolerable along the way. What's even more funny is assuming a career in marketing is owed to him. Imagine 9 out of 10 dentists saying, "Psych! Plaque is actually good for your teeth." However, that dude does not hate music. He hates being WRONG about it.
He always mischaracterized emo music like crazy so he pissed me off to begin with. He doesn’t know shit about alternative music and it clearly doesn’t appeal to him in any way because he’s a bootlicker. Business majors, man. I don’t like them.
I used to like Finn's content back when he started. But, a red flag came up at a point when he was talking about Linkin Park, and the bands that have since tried to emulate and copy their style. For some reason, he played a clip of a Dayseeker music video when going over this, and that left me confused. Dayseeker sounds nothing like Linkin Park. Not even close. 😂 There was also a point where he bashed Rammstein, saying that all their songs sound like different variations of Du Hast... which, if you ever listened to any Rammstein song that's not Du Hast, you know that's absolutely NOT the case lmao. So, him admitting he's not as well versed in music as he claimed to be is not all that surprising.
Man as a huge fan of OG era Linkin Park AND current Dayseeker that is so fucking...does not compute. Beyond saying both vocalists had really good clean singing voices but absolutely brutal screams, they're nothing alike (Rory is the GOAT tho)
@@zdoggzero6595 I'm still mind-blown over the fact that his father passed away, he was able to write those songs, record the album and then start touring for it, all in the space of a few months. My father was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukaemia the day Dark Sun came out. Rory might not be doing fancy English Lit. grade lyricism like Vessel but he doesn't need to, the words he does use are such a gut punch for anyone who's had a very close personal loss like that. Midnight Eternal into the title track...even just thinking about it while typing this got me sobbing. Dayseeker decided to invent M83-core lol (M83 made Midnight City which like, everyone knows that song)
I didn’t give Finn McGrifty any money but I feel like by watching his Type O Negative video recently that I was conned by this man by looking at his videos on the rare occasion he covered a band I was familiar with.
I didn’t think he was into music or even well educated on punk. He always had terrible takes and he dressed like a middle aged narc in a tv show undercover at a high school
I got hustle culture vibes when he was getting a lot of hype a couple years ago. Weirdly he got so popular and I’m glad his Gary Vee as content isn’t something I have to pretend to enjoy now
I didn't hate his shit content so much as I hated the popularity of it. The anger at him now is weird, because it's like looking at Mr Beast and being like "wait, it was all about the money???" With those thumbnails?! With the clickbait titles?! With the sheer volume of "content" that is forgotten the moment it ends because it had zero substance?! Say it ain't so! It's pretty funny that he squeezed mega bucks out of the braindead masses and dumped them in a ditch. It's like when someone falls for a "Nigerian prince needs your help" scam. I don't like or respect the scammer, but I sure as hell don't feel sympathy for the idiots that fell for the scam.
watched one of his "why did genre x died?" and all he said was basically "it stopped played on the radio", no research, no analysys, no nuance, nothing. and that was a few years ago. think I actually blocked his channel for being so mediocre
His logic is entirely corporate. Like "if it doesn't get millions of Spotify listens, then it's dead and it doesn't live up to the modern days, so we should all discuss mumble rap ". Nothing but a big corporate stooge.
Hi, I'm Finn McKenty! You may know me as: >The guy who said rap metal sucks and also the same guy who said American Badass is a great song and that Kid Rock was objectively good back in the day, being able to play his own instruments. Even though no Kid Rock riff is better than anything else in whatever style of music he wants to ruin, and he's (sub-)average at singing and rapping. >The guy who smugly said melodic death metal is backwards because if I wanna listen to something melodic, I'll listen to Ariana Grande. Meanwhile, I supposedly love pop punk and seems to think scene/Hot Topic metalcore is good: yk, styles of music that take abrasive styles of music and add melodic elements, making them more accessible? >The guy who plays Devil's Advocate for Ronnie "If you argue Motley Crue should retire, you're a bootlicker and don't make me come get you" Radke no matter what because I supposedly like his music tacky, self unaware genre blends with garbage lyrics. >The guy who Godsmack in the A tier of a butt rock tier list. >The guy who put Foo Fighters and Guns N Roses at the top of a dad rock tier list and Creed above Megadeth, Tool, and Queens of the Stone Age. >The guy who recommended Lords of Chaos as if it were accurate in an info video about black metal, and also talked about a style of music I hate while smugly saying "I'm allergic to nerds larping in their basement" >The guy who put Five Finger Death Punch at the top of a 2000s metal tier list, tiers above Gojira. >The guy who interviewed Blaire "I was pretty then got surgery to make my cheekbones to make me look like I have a filter irl then call everyone else ugly" White about being emo/punk as if a political grifter telling everyone to vote for a grifting oligarchy group could be punk. >And who could forget this one? The guy who spoke passionately about music, demonstrating extensive knowledge on bands that aren't even mainstream, but then claimed NOT to be burned out, but that I was never into music and that I was only in this for the money. Congrats. You reached the end of a slandering text wall going down a list of Finn's garbage takes/opinions, that I thought would be funny.
It's pretty wild that his grift was running music channel, while not having an interest in music. How do you even fall into that line of work with "no interest" in it?
Well we’ve all worked odd jobs at one point just for the money, but there’s a difference between working a job you hate and building an entire channel around something you have no passion for. There’s tons of other stuff to talk about online! Why music? It’s like opening a Chinese restaurant and closing it down years later like “yeah I never really liked Chinese food anyway”.
I wonder how many people are apologising to Dan Frampton right about now lol. Honestly, I can see Finn trying to pull the old "ha ha i was trolling, you suckers will believe anything" next. We need more Jons, less Finns.
As a former fan, he just duped us all. He so convincingly seemed like he knew what he was talking about and that he cared about/listened to the music. But, as he revealed himself, he's just a professional conman
His attitude was always so contradictory, like “I’m sticking up for all the people who don’t fit in. Also, if you like something I don’t you’re a nerd and you’re too weird”, etc. He’s always been such a smug, bitter waste of flesh.
I was a fan. I related a lot to Finn's stories about his childhood and I genuinely looked up to him a bit. I found a lot of great music from his channels. Real pissed he took us all for a ride but at least I found some good music I guess.
@@RipleyMadeIt same here. I'm still watching those videos, even though I heard about those allegations. The pop punk/emo videos were cool. If you saw my comment, I talked about other UA-camrs that are also cool 😎. I didn't mention Cover Killer Nation because he's not doing videos anymore, but he's a cool guy. He walked so that every other music UA-camr could run. By the way I feel your pain.
i was a fan too. i feel really irritated that he just talked down and shit on his entire audience and basically consistently lied to us. Especially when he was saying how stressed out he got when his videos weren't performing well because it was his "main source of income" for his family... and now he says he reached his financial goals with YT... so basically he was gaslighting us into feeling bad for him and prompted us to give him more watch time and more money.... He is probably one of the reasons why Riffhard was gutted from the inside when John Browne left it. For those who don't know, Riffhard is a part of URM Academy, an online school for metal production and Riffhard is its guitar focused offshoot. URM Academy is co-owned by Finn, Joey Sturgis and Eyal Levi (who always came off as a major douche bag). It was started as a project from Monuments' John Browne, as a new take on the guitar school, focused on riffing and such, instead of shredding solos like the majority of other online guitar courses. In 2022 John Browne left without so much as a good bye. It created a lot of drama in the community and happened as the site started to have guest instructors that were all shredders from technical death metal bands and super solo focused content. TL;DR Browne probably left because URM is managed just as well as Finn managed his YT channels. So Finn is a confirmed asshole. So is Eyal Levi from all his posts in the Riffhard members Facebook group. And Joey is just raking in tons of money from slapping his name on online schools and mediocre plugins (besides the Dino Cazares guitar plugin, which is awesome).
He also had a blog before the channel, Stuff You Will Hate. He featured one of my guitar covers from a channel I had when I was a kid and I'm sure part of him thought it was cool, but the title was also poking fun at me. Thinking back now as an adult, I was a 17-year-old kid and he was in his mid 30s. That's super weird. I had people comment saying they'd kick my ass if I showed up at the show of the band I was covering in my city, which kind of nerve-wracking as a kid who didn't know the hardcore scene yet. I went and of course nobody did anything, but I didn't know about keyboard warriors and how insufferable some music fans can be. Not sad to see him go in the slightest.
Brother, I'm with you. I watch about 3 of his videos and called him out as a poser in the comments of one of them. And, then I blocked his channel. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who caught on early.
I first became a fan of him for similar reasons I enjoyed your channel. It was cool to see someone openly enjoying music genres that would get me mocked by elitists and snobs and hipsters online for enjoying. It was especially cool seeing an older person embrace those genres. Ugh. I started to see the cracks and lost interest when he uploaded that awful video about Japanese music. The one where he basically said “oh you only like this stuff because you’re weebs who watch anime and have a fetish for asian women”. Terrible video and the opposite of the open-minded positive attitude I enjoyed about his channel. Everything just got worse the more I looked into it. Especially his “anti-woke” wife he met when she was still in high school and he was in his 30s. Ew. Then when I saw this interview I was somehow shocked and not surprised at the same time. What a fake. I don’t even believe him when he says he doesn’t care about music. He obviously cared to some extent, I think he just started covering music he didn’t care about and got pissy when people criticized how weak his content was getting, so he went for the scorched earth approach and just cut off his whole audience in the most negative, douchey way possible
Tank's constant defense of Radke is a red flag to me, even though I like him otherwise and enjoy his insights. We all have our blindspots but how anyone could still be defending Ronnie in 2024, I have no idea. Even half his subreddit hates him now lol
Honestly I never ever liked Finn. The first video I ever watched from him was off-putting to me. I found him incredibly arrogant and condescending. I feel vindicated knowing I am right and have been right all this time.
I mean, I keep saying this but "MBA" was your red flag. MBA and punk are two different things. Maybe one day he will reach his goals and get Mangioni'ed
@@xkidmidnightx That's not the point. Openly tying an MBA to anti-establishment music is a red flag. You can have your MBA, but let's not pretend it's punk. You might as well call yourself the Punk Rock CEO. Sorry, no,
I enjoy punk music and have my MBA. And it’s two completely different mindsets you have to shift into. You can’t really be both at the same time. Maybe tho I’m the poser in the situation with the MBA 😂 I don’t actually have a passion for business I just wanted to make more money to support my family.
He's a marketing guy. And EVERYONE is talking about him. He probably did this to get one last cash in from all the curious new viewers of his catalog of videos
Tbh I think Finn was knowledgable about the business side of music as he came from marketing. He understood that you have to sell a character before you sell your music to succeed, which is right, you might not like that, but it’s 100% right and that’s just how the business works. I don’t believe that he hates music, otherwise why do this for years even before he was on UA-cam. He hates a lot of Metal and it’s fans, that I do know, as he used to troll and rage bait Metal fans with articles on Metalsucks and Metal Injection before he was on UA-cam. I just think he didn’t like having to talk about the music he doesn’t like rather than the music he does like. Finn kept saying on his channel that he wanted to talk more about obscure and underground stuff, but he became a nostalgia channel for Millennial culture and Finn I think deep down didn’t like that. Finn looked miserable in his videos tbh, he clearly wasn’t happy talking about stuff he didn’t want to talk about, and deep down he doesn’t like the fact he did this just for money.
@@NuMetalfan1996 I remember at one point he said he didn’t like doing his main channel anymore. If you watched his second channel you could see that he was very cynical about a lot of things, so this ending isn’t unexpected.
I literally never liked this guy, but couldn't really articulate it beyond "bad vibes", I feel validated in having a more legit reason to dislike him lol.
i was one of those who always got bad vibes from his videos as well. maybe unlike you though i couldn’t quite put my finger on why that was. now it is abundantly clear that why his videos and him sucked was the complete lack of passion. i don’t fault the fans but i really don’t get how other genuine music lovers followed him so passionately.
Finn is like listening to the teachers from Charlie Brown. He is the room temperature room. He is overcooked, plain buttered noodles. He is a motel 6 in Utah. He is a Weezer cover band. He is so aggressively mid, he should be called Faker. He is Jeff Dunham's terrorist puppet. He is parquet flooring. He is Scary Movie 5. He is a rural train ride at night. He is garlic salt on toast. He is a well done skirt steak. He is Miracle Whip. He is pizza with no toppings. He is Cracked Magazine. He is so bland that he is impossible to pay any attention to. Stolen reddit comment
i kinda figured he was a fraud. Considering all this content was basically Ragebait and he had zero idea on what good taste in music actually is. Plus, he just has an unlikeable aura about him
I have watched his content in the past and I was not aware of his character. His recent response did catch me off guard and to hear him say those things make me feel guilty for even watching his past content. The worst part though is calling out his own fans. Just horrific behavior from a content creator.
i gotta say, I'm real curious as to how Ronnie's gonna take learning about this since it seems like his life is taking hits from all angles right now - self inflicted, he is MORE than old enough to not be acting this way. When I found out he's only a couple years younger than me I was like yoooo ain't no way, that is straight up embarrassing for a middle aged man to make tiktoks blasting people inc literal nobodies for daring to be negative, and giving shoutouts and access to the people who always kiss his ass (coughrockfeedcough)
I thought Dan Frampton’s video went hard but this was brutal. I really believe the guy would rather be called a poser than having to carry his girl’s situation. Having said this, I think the guy’s playing all of us.
It's such a bizarre situation. Not uncommon that people don't enjoy their work. But his next steps as trying to being a linked-in influencer/life coach is so odd when the advice is essentially "be miserable and burn tons of bridges while you work if it makes you money".
Someone pointed out that Finn and his wife got together while she was still a minor and he was around 30. And now that it's starting to come out, he pulled this stunt as a cover up. 🤔
Just wait five years for Finn to come out and say, “Yeah, I have no interest in LinkedIn. Those idiots who paid me thousands of dollars to regurgitate self-help slop for months were the only reasons I stayed for as long as I did.”
I started watching his channel about two years ago. He posted on a pretty regular schedule, and what seemed to happen in the last six months was several other music/genre music/metal youtubers began to call him out for his formulaic approach, the generic format and structure of the videos themselves, and the scripts which, as you mentioned, could've been lifted from a wiki on the bands or albums being profiled. These callouts began to get traction, and then we get the interview where Finn McTwatty shits all over his own body of work and his audience (Wow, two-for-one shot) Yeah, what a prick!
finn is the only honest music grifter in the scene. meanwhile we have braindead reaction channels and content farmers following whatever trends. i can respect his middle finger of a farewell… the youtube underground music scene is shit
I'll give him a prop (just the one) for being honest about it, he even said in the interview that you have to make your choice on if you want to follow your passion, or follow what gets you clicks (paraphrased). Any reaction channel where they love the song no matter the genre, artist, subject matter - that's not genuine and I can't respect that. Especially when you find out behind the scenes they're deliberately trying to play to the algorithm and if the first time they review an artists it doesn't get enough views in the first X hours - even if it gets lots of views in total - nope to much of a hit to the aglo, not going to touch that artist again sorry. With a bonus of sometimes copping blame for that lol
I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around the concept of how anyone could be in UA-cam “for the money” when the vast majority of channels I watch are just people geeking out over things they love (music, travel, TV, whatever) and maybe some of them make a steady living off of it, but it’s probably not “meet my financial goals so I can retire” money. Then someone comes along who doesn’t give a crap about the topic, just regurgitates Wikipedia, and makes bank. So infuriating.
God this man has to be empty inside. How do you conciously say "life is short, dont spend it doing something you dont want to do" but then DO EXACTLY THAT for 7 whole years wtaf. Also such a disgusting personality he has, saying musicians are a lost cause because they dont make a lot of money, when the Husk he embellishes fails tk recognize what love is, and that musicians do it for the love of music and the love of what they do. God i am actually disgusted
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FINN MCCUNTY EXPOSED!!! The house of cards finally collapsed, and his fans are left holding the empty bag where their money used to be.
What do you guys think of the Punk Rock MBA situation??
It does suck because there’s so many people out there that genuinely love this and care about music. And because of this one guy now it may be even harder for people in the future to get an audience like that because you got fake ass people like this ruining everything for everybody.
Finn is a capitalist, and Punk Rock is NOT capitalist. Surprised, he lasted as long as he did.
That whole "I've never listened to SOAD" comment is a bullshit lie. He listened to them on one of his livestreams. Said they sucked and talked down on their fans 🙄
I only watched about 20 of his videos and I really liked them I considered myself a fan. He seemed knowledgeable and passionate. I guess I was suckered. It happens to the best of us. I wasn't somebody who bought his merchandise. I don't believe that he doesn't like music and that he just did his research only through Wikipedia articles. obviously he went beyond that in some of his video.. I'm not crestfallen or anything like that but he appeared to me to be passionate and knowledgeable so I guess I was fooled.
around 4:55 i can't believe he actually exposed himself as a right-winger... like holy fuck, how can someone who markets himself as a punk adjacent content creator actually be completely against the left-wing principles of punk
How do you manage to be a poser and an elitist at the same time?
Finn: yes ✨
The biggest poser at my work liked Finn. I don't know how it came up in a conversation.. but yeah.
I didn't watch him too much, was he really elitist? Because I remember when he was instantly roasted by Fat Mike after saying that Sublime is the best ska band. It was precious lol
Yes, is terrible. Tool is a great example. Maynard blatantly calls his fans idiots and too fan obsessed. Never liked them. Danny Carey is brilliant though and the other guys seem nice. Haha.. Whatever..!! I pay for records that I know the artists at least somewhat appreciate. And the same with the content I view on the youtube!
Probably from Huffing his own farts
He's starting a band called Linked-In Park.
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I've seen this joke 10 times in 10 different videos about this matter in the past 3 days
@@HellNation but in the end, it doesn't even matter
lol
Lol
I feel bad for the interviewer. What do you do in that situation? That's like interviewing a vocalist of your favorite band and he says "I was in it for the money, I hate singing, I hate the songs I sing, never had a passion for it, but I made money, my lyrics mean nothing to me, in fact, people that listen to my music are numbskulls"
Nah, this is gold for Jesea Lee, probably more views than anything he’s ever done.
That’s literally Danny Worsnop lmaooo
I honestly believe he hate part of what he did. I’m sure she had a soft spot for hard-core an old-school punk, but when it came to like pop punk and new metal, I genuinely believed he didn’t like what he did.
@@markjames8664 In 8 days it’s already his most watched video ever.
His shorts gets more views than his actual videos.
It's ok, he never made me laugh or think about anything different, mediocre at best
He did it all for the Nookie
YEAH!
That cookie!
😂😂😂😂😂
Hahahaha 😂
😂 Well done...well..done..indeed..
He once called Radiohead "a Wal-Mart avant-garde band" lol
At that point, every opinion of his should’ve been invalid.
They are though.
Dang I wish I knew which video was that
One of his rare good takes
Ok, thats a funny and true take.
I personally don’t think the “I hate music and only did it for the money” thing is entirely true. In the later years of his channel, he was 100% doing it just for the money. However in the early years, he did seem genuinely passionate about the things he talked about. But as time went on, he realized that his videos about topics he was interested weren’t getting as many views as his slop Wikipedia recaps and I think that made him bitter. This interview feels like him at his breaking point and he’s finally lashing out at his audience. I guess in the end, he chose money over passion but couldn’t see that there was probably a way to balance the two.
If he can't pay the bills talking about things he cares about, it makes sense he walked away. Not sure why he said the stuff he did here though.
Great comment. I agree.
Boom, this.
I'm thinking the same way bro. I don't think we able to do something we don't like for that such a period of time. He can easily earn money if he choose to talks about pop artists or rappers rather than rock/metal things. It just doesn't make sense.
Finn perfectly represents Punk Rock. Larping as a socialist while trying to get rich. There has never been anyone as Punk Rock as Finn.
It just weirds me out to hear someone say that they just don't care about music. I don't get that. I know there are people like that, I just can't imagine.
I don't think it's true. There's lil tidbits here and there that were insights that you couldn't get from a Wikipedia article. I think he knows exactly what to say to piss people off, and he's using that cuz he was called out. He's trying to turn the tables and make people feel like idiots.
Same. Music has been important to me for as long as I can remember so it really makes no sense in my mind how some people don’t care about music. Like I understand maybe not having time to spend listening to and checking out new music all the time, but to not have at least a handful of bands/artists or maybe a specific genre that you enjoy and care about feels mind blowing to me.
I mean, I can imagine people who don't care enough to dig into music, to make "content" about that topic, or maybe only listen passively to the radio or top 40, but... Doesn't everyone have at least a favorite song? Doesn't everyone grow up on lullabies or children songs? How dead inside can a person be not to care about any type of music?
I mean, I don't get it either, *but...* I don't care about, for example, football. It's incredibly boring. But there are people out there who live and breath it and would probably find that weird, too.
On the *other* hand, music kinda permeates our lives in ways that sports just don't. On that level, it's certainly odd to think that some people have no opinion on it.
I use to not like music until high school. I never liked top 40 pop music or rap music that was popular at the time and I didn't really care for the oldie ballad songs my parents listened too. Turns out I like heavy music. I just never got a chance to get exposed to it enough until I saw some anime AMVs back in the day. Still I do know people that are not that into music but they tend to have HUGE passions into other stuff that takes up all of their time.
Roast me all you want, but I was one of the few that has always been in Finns corner, he had some bad takes but I liked his videos and his personality, and he was super cool to me in messages too. To see him spit in the faces of the people that gave him a platform is pretty rough, I feel like I've been a bit naive defending him all this time, he's lost my respect.
I’m in the same boat as you. We were punked.
You guys deserve it. Next time ,be a better judge of character
No shade to you, sometimes it takes something like this to see the light. It's easy to fall for it because they're just little info videos, not much to expect. Why I didn't like him is because even with my low expectations I thought his content sucked. lol
@@TheMusicRoomWA nah man you make a good point, and I appreciate you being civil about it. I think because I'd been watching him for such a long time, and through some of my late formative years early on, I was deliberately, willingly overlooking a lot of his more questionable aspects until now. But I agree it's better to approach most things with the idea that people aren't always what they seem on the surface.
Don’t ever look upto or defend people on the internet
The Hack Fraud MBA
That's Redlettermedia's music review channel
Yeaaa hopefully more people will fill his void with smart, less inflammatory, non sensational music coverage.
He is a void
This whole thing is crazy. He totally didn't have to burn every bridge before retiring, yet still gave an insane villain monologue for... reasons.
I don’t think punk rock is inherently left wing, but seeing as it was founded on left wing politics, it’s pretty ironic to hear him complain about left wingers.
Beyond that, the idea that he’s gonna help people market after burning the bridges that created his platform is hilarious.
I mean, he's a marketing bro surrounded by cops and is married to a homophobic weirdo lol. Sounds like the type to be aggravated by left wing politics.
A big part of that is because Punk was founded (Mid to Late 70s) when many of the "revolutionary" takes could be found on the Left. Unfortunately, public opinion tends to take a first impression and make an extremely change-resistant monument out of it. Not only that, but aligned groups often feel like they have to support everything "their side" does, even if it goes against their original stance. EDIT: Some of this is reiterating what you already said, I'm basically expanding it, I guess.
Current left wingers in punk obnoxiously wimpy and oddly buy in 100% to every corporate talking point. It’s insane and depressing
yeah... he's in absolutely no position to "help" people when he just exposed himself as the most disingenuous person on music youtube.
He had a blog back in the day where he had pretty right wing views and complained about political correctness. Then when he launched Punk Rock MBA he suddenly had all politically correct opinions. He was just faking so his channel would take off.
I fuckin knew it. From the very first video I watched I got "guy who didn't know what he was talking about yet still thought he was better than you" vibes. What a poseur. I need to trust my gut instinct more, bc as of now I've been right about Mr Beast, James Charles, Jeffree Star and Colleen Ballinger.
I feel like I kinda have that sixth sense too…
I wish that were the case for me. I fell for Finn and the shit he was peddling hook line and sinker. Even as a lifelong music lover who should’ve theoretically seen through his bullshit straight away, I’ve also been quite gullible my whole life. I saw this guy talking about the likes of CKY and Attack Attack and seemingly praising them and was like “yoooo I vibe”.
Eventually tho the more I dug into his content and his person, that rotten core became extremely obvious and impossible to ignore so I abandoned ship.
Feels weirdly vindicating now that all his dirt is coming to light. Like last year’s James Somerton situation
some of his stuff was pretty basic, but some of it was okay. he's worth the sponsorblock .
Same 😂
Beeing contrarian did it for me, telling old bands they are not doing egough to be in the picture, while telling new bands that no one is making out with Britney Spears. From "metal won't be as popular" to "there's too much nostalgia" in the same video essay.
there's "i'm doing it for the money," which isn't all that uncommon, especially after years of making content, and then there's "i dont have any interest in music at all." that's a whole different level of f'd up.
i was someone who subbed to him for at least a couple years. it was a fun channel for the sake of nostalgia, and introducing me to some bands i hadn't heard of before. i never thought he was some musical genius or anything, but he talked about the 90s hardcore scene well enough that i believed he was an old school hardcore/punk dude. like why would i even question it, when it's a passive viewing music content channel? it just wasn't that deep.
but there's two things i hate more than most: being played a fool and disingenuous, manipulative people. the absolute brazen attitude that he has in this interview both disgusts me and pisses me off. luckily, i never gave him my money, but i feel so bad for the people who directly contributed to him financially.
and now there are tons of people trying to cope saying things like, "there's no way he doesn't like music. it just cracked from all the negativity." and i'm like, what's that quote? "when someone tells you exactly who they are, believe them."
well, finn has admitted to being an enormous piece of shit, so believe him. i hope all his future business endeavors fail, but considering hes putting his focus and efforts into linkedin, i don't actually have to hope. it's a pretty safe bet at this point.
good riddance.
ps: if theres one thing i learned, it's that i dont need to just vett my political channels or social commentary channels, but now i even have to question my music content channels. god, how extremely pathetic is that? also, what kind a sociopath "doesn't have any interest in music"? what an absolute nightmare of a human being.
Do you think people who own concrete companies are passionate about concrete? I understand your point and I agree with a lot of what you say but its good to understand from the other point of view
A tad dramatic.
I'm sorry but no, people are not saying that he's coping because they feel hurt. You don't know if you didn't watch both of his channels for years as i did... Always had a problem with lot of Finn's takes and how he talked, but i watched because of the insane amount of knowledge he had about alternative culture. He was in fact part of the hardcore scene back in the day and knows lot of people in the music industry... He didn't only read Wikipedia articles when he was chatting about music with his fans on his livestreams. And i wouldn't even want to defend the guy right now because i'm so disappointed in him, but this is the truth.
I get you, and I definitely hope he fails too, but how did you not see here that he was fully lying about never liking music or the scene to begin with? That was a full on lie to try to take control back from the "haters" he himself cultivated.
He’s definitely gonna go to the hustle/grind/brocore/grift side of things. I have a feeling it’s going to be about marketing yourself, the same ol “getting out there” slop we’ve seen from influencers before
Everyone seems shocked when “MBA” was literally in his title.
I’ve never met an honest “MBA” or “marketer” in my life. They’re just used car salesmen in business attire
Honestly, I'm not a native English speaker (though fluent in it from a young age), so I actually had not clue what MBA is an acronym of. Now that I know, I admit it is very obvious lol
I guess many of his fans weren't native English speakers either, which means they were less prone to spot out clues for his dishonesty.
Damn I really loved his channel the first couple years
Same
He’s literally the Maroon 5 of rock UA-camrs
It's like all YTubers who are "first in" in a genre of content, like a new game, but for him, it was discussing music.
The thing is he was covering genres that he enjoyed like hard-core and what not. Towards the end He was covering genres He was not too fond of like new metal and pop punk.
@@youtubetimecapsul7491 Go watch his 80's hardcore stuff now, and you can practically read along with him and the wiki.
I knew this guy was a hack when he made a video on worst songs of the 2000s
The video had Hey Ya and Mr Brightside it in
Holy shit... LMFAOOOOO
They are bad though, those two songs do suck
@@NuMetalfan1996well you listen to nu metal so your opinion doesn’t matter
While I'm not a fan of Hey Ya myself (it's just not for me and I have tried to like it for *YEARS* ), I absolutely wouldn't say it's the worst song of the 2000s
@@DiegoGonzalez-kh3ebI listen to nu metal and I think both of those songs are great. It’s not listening to nu metal that’s the “problem”, it’s when you ONLY listen to nu metal and reject other good music.
A person who puts LinkedIn in a positive light cannot be a real person.
Now THIS is a name I have not heard for the past 6-7 months.
I’m gonna be real, there was a time when I actually watched his stuff for the past 2 years and I thought he was a cool guy to watch, especially when checking out his vids on his second channel.
But as time went on I felt something was off, like his personality and opinions on music and bands that I enjoyed started to rub me off the wrong way and pretty soon I forgot all about him and moved on.
Now here I am seeing all this unfold and I have to say:
It is REALLY damn satisfying seeing him get exposed.
Woah woah woah did someone throw a finn mckenty hate party without me?!
It's still raging!
Don't worry, there's still plenty of Hors d'oeuvres left over, so have at it! 🤙
Grab a beer, blows in the bathroom, but don't take the purple acid.
This dude always felt off to me. He always gave off elitist, "I'm better/smarter than you" vibes. I hated how he would talk down/gatekeep certain bands and genres. I just feel for his subscribers, especially those who donated to him or bought merch. Y'all have every right to feel cheated. What he did is like the equivalent to moving away and then leaving behind nothing but a letter to your friends saying, "I never liked you anyway".
YES. I watched his videos from time to time if it was a topic I was interested in, but I wasn't a big fan of his attitude and stopped watching. Glad he quit since it was so fake anyway.
To say he doesn't care about music is a lie. He just chose to cover music he didn't like and wasn't passionate about for money and that made him bitter. Hearing him talk about the hard core and early metal core scenes he clearly loved that music and turned me onto bands that are awesome that I've never heard of before. He decided to follow the money instead of his passion and now he's crass and cynical.
Yeah it seems like he doesn't know how to cope with the fact that he made his youtube exit later than he should've. Now he's burned out and seems angry he spent so much time creating music related content so he pretends to have hated it all... which is pretty sad😢
All you had to do was watch one of his music "reactions" and see how he never evoked any emotions whatsoever while listening to the songs..
In most his videos he looked like he was being held at gunpoint. He did look like he didnt enjoy what he did. No emotion from the guy
As soon as someone defends Ronnie Radke, you already know they don't enjoy music.
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Predator knows predator
Finn was the only person who could talk about punk rock for hours and not have one single opinion that I'd agree with. Now it all makes sense.
I don't think this was ever a secret. Based on his attitude, you could tell his soul wasn't on this
I feel really bad for the bands and artists who paid Finn to review their song on twitch live stream and ask for advice. Getting a review of music from somebody who doesn’t give an absolute shit about music is pointless.
I've been patiently waiting for your take on this!
Will say, when I first discovered alternative music, coming from a sheltered background: Finn was a big part of me discovering a lot of bands that stick with me to this day. Truly a shame to learn it was all fake... Thanks for being the real one John, you're the king!
@@timmyrohlfs7298 I don’t think of that content itself as fake, even if his interest was faked. Even if he got a lot of content from Wikipedia, he presented it well.
I never liked him, he annoyed me when he constantly says musicians like Corey Taylor are assholes, even though Corey has shown 100’s of time how he cares about his fans, he literally hugged a fan who told him that she almost ended her life
I mean his pop music opinions are terrible. But I see what you are getting at.
@Qualithony_Contentano he actually said in an interview that he likes Megan Trainor
@@Milo-it1tf nah bro you can not tell me he was trolling with that statement. 🤣
@Qualithony_Cotentano well he does actually like pop, at least older pop like prince and Michael Jackson, he also wrote in a book of his saying that he likes jazz music, he also likes 90’s rap, so he likes all kinds of music
@ but bullying other pop musicians like the lead singer from Imagine Dragons is not ok and doesn’t make him less of a jerk. Sure Imagine Dragons’s music isn’t good but that doesn’t give anyone the right to pick on someone who does a different genre than them. It just makes them an elitist who is a bully and has a whole “I’m better than you” attitude.
This guy would always say “people think I’m some raging capitalist but I don’t think consumerism is good for our health and definitely not good for the planet” and then turns round and says “yeah I was only doing it for the money”
Which video did he say that?
I’ve been saying it for years that it always felt like he did not know a single thing about the bands and genres that he talked about
He HAS to be trolling right?!!??!!???
I think so, I mean he wouldn't start a whole music channel if he didn't like it. He has band tattoos.
He has two hatebreed tattoos and there is photos of him when he was younger before his channel with very niche bands. I think he just got burnt out on UA-cam and just rage quit.
Yeah he's covering for something.
He’s a right wing tech sociopath, this is their thing.
Notice how he looks to the right several times, especially when he says ‘I have no interest in music.’ Finn doing this interview just blows him up more for his new venture. Irony is this guy also makes a video about it for his own benefit
He seems to be right up there with the likes of Jack Doherty, Colleen Ballinger (god, I hate these two), and even MrBeast in this department. 2023-24 were pretty historic years for awful people getting exposed for who they really are
You know things are serious when Jon is in the car spewing his stuff
I still thinking about how Finn felt so secure in his future as a linkedIn social media guru that he destroyed his reputation in the community that built him up. I'm sure all the callout videos with his name on them and the words "liar" and "grifter" will be a hit with clients looking to build credibility for their brand.
I hated him as soon as I clicked on him being called Punk Rock MBA only to find out his knowledge of punk tops out at about 20% of my own. He just crucifies 'scene kids' from 2000-2010, making his fans less knowledgeable and more intolerable along the way.
What's even more funny is assuming a career in marketing is owed to him. Imagine 9 out of 10 dentists saying, "Psych! Plaque is actually good for your teeth."
However, that dude does not hate music. He hates being WRONG about it.
Remember that time Finn told us that emo rap is the new rock and if we don't agree we are all close-minded idiots?
He always mischaracterized emo music like crazy so he pissed me off to begin with. He doesn’t know shit about alternative music and it clearly doesn’t appeal to him in any way because he’s a bootlicker. Business majors, man. I don’t like them.
The title is the understatement of the decade.
I used to like Finn's content back when he started. But, a red flag came up at a point when he was talking about Linkin Park, and the bands that have since tried to emulate and copy their style. For some reason, he played a clip of a Dayseeker music video when going over this, and that left me confused. Dayseeker sounds nothing like Linkin Park. Not even close. 😂
There was also a point where he bashed Rammstein, saying that all their songs sound like different variations of Du Hast... which, if you ever listened to any Rammstein song that's not Du Hast, you know that's absolutely NOT the case lmao.
So, him admitting he's not as well versed in music as he claimed to be is not all that surprising.
Man as a huge fan of OG era Linkin Park AND current Dayseeker that is so fucking...does not compute. Beyond saying both vocalists had really good clean singing voices but absolutely brutal screams, they're nothing alike (Rory is the GOAT tho)
Rory may arguably the closest thing we have to Chester nowadays in terms of sheer emotion in their vocals but that’s about it
@@zdoggzero6595 I'm still mind-blown over the fact that his father passed away, he was able to write those songs, record the album and then start touring for it, all in the space of a few months. My father was diagnosed with acute myeloid leukaemia the day Dark Sun came out. Rory might not be doing fancy English Lit. grade lyricism like Vessel but he doesn't need to, the words he does use are such a gut punch for anyone who's had a very close personal loss like that. Midnight Eternal into the title track...even just thinking about it while typing this got me sobbing. Dayseeker decided to invent M83-core lol (M83 made Midnight City which like, everyone knows that song)
@ seriously, dude captured loss and heartbreak in such a vivid way it’s hard to listen to sometimes
I didn’t give Finn McGrifty any money but I feel like by watching his Type O Negative video recently that I was conned by this man by looking at his videos on the rare occasion he covered a band I was familiar with.
I didn’t think he was into music or even well educated on punk. He always had terrible takes and he dressed like a middle aged narc in a tv show undercover at a high school
Man, something about that channel always rubbed me the wrong way... i'm not surprised at all honestly.
I got hustle culture vibes when he was getting a lot of hype a couple years ago.
Weirdly he got so popular and I’m glad his Gary Vee as content isn’t something I have to pretend to enjoy now
BryanStars 2.0
Only diffrence is that I still watch old BryanStars interviews, wheras I couldnt watch a second of Finn now..
@ facts
I didn't hate his shit content so much as I hated the popularity of it. The anger at him now is weird, because it's like looking at Mr Beast and being like "wait, it was all about the money???" With those thumbnails?! With the clickbait titles?! With the sheer volume of "content" that is forgotten the moment it ends because it had zero substance?! Say it ain't so! It's pretty funny that he squeezed mega bucks out of the braindead masses and dumped them in a ditch. It's like when someone falls for a "Nigerian prince needs your help" scam. I don't like or respect the scammer, but I sure as hell don't feel sympathy for the idiots that fell for the scam.
Still not tired of seeing Anti-McKunty videos on my feed. 😂
watched one of his "why did genre x died?" and all he said was basically "it stopped played on the radio", no research, no analysys, no nuance, nothing. and that was a few years ago. think I actually blocked his channel for being so mediocre
His logic is entirely corporate. Like "if it doesn't get millions of Spotify listens, then it's dead and it doesn't live up to the modern days, so we should all discuss mumble rap ". Nothing but a big corporate stooge.
His LinkedIn profile is so weird. He has a testimonial from a client of his that says “He gives a shit, plain and simple”. Wow 😂
He fooled me.
Hi, I'm Finn McKenty! You may know me as:
>The guy who said rap metal sucks and also the same guy who said American Badass is a great song and that Kid Rock was objectively good back in the day, being able to play his own instruments. Even though no Kid Rock riff is better than anything else in whatever style of music he wants to ruin, and he's (sub-)average at singing and rapping.
>The guy who smugly said melodic death metal is backwards because if I wanna listen to something melodic, I'll listen to Ariana Grande. Meanwhile, I supposedly love pop punk and seems to think scene/Hot Topic metalcore is good: yk, styles of music that take abrasive styles of music and add melodic elements, making them more accessible?
>The guy who plays Devil's Advocate for Ronnie "If you argue Motley Crue should retire, you're a bootlicker and don't make me come get you" Radke no matter what because I supposedly like his music tacky, self unaware genre blends with garbage lyrics.
>The guy who Godsmack in the A tier of a butt rock tier list.
>The guy who put Foo Fighters and Guns N Roses at the top of a dad rock tier list and Creed above Megadeth, Tool, and Queens of the Stone Age.
>The guy who recommended Lords of Chaos as if it were accurate in an info video about black metal, and also talked about a style of music I hate while smugly saying "I'm allergic to nerds larping in their basement"
>The guy who put Five Finger Death Punch at the top of a 2000s metal tier list, tiers above Gojira.
>The guy who interviewed Blaire "I was pretty then got surgery to make my cheekbones to make me look like I have a filter irl then call everyone else ugly" White about being emo/punk as if a political grifter telling everyone to vote for a grifting oligarchy group could be punk.
>And who could forget this one? The guy who spoke passionately about music, demonstrating extensive knowledge on bands that aren't even mainstream, but then claimed NOT to be burned out, but that I was never into music and that I was only in this for the money.
Congrats. You reached the end of a slandering text wall going down a list of Finn's garbage takes/opinions, that I thought would be funny.
It's pretty wild that his grift was running music channel, while not having an interest in music. How do you even fall into that line of work with "no interest" in it?
Well we’ve all worked odd jobs at one point just for the money, but there’s a difference between working a job you hate and building an entire channel around something you have no passion for. There’s tons of other stuff to talk about online! Why music?
It’s like opening a Chinese restaurant and closing it down years later like “yeah I never really liked Chinese food anyway”.
Low key we kinda need a ranting video on Rock Feed now, especially given how soooo far he’s up you know who’s ass these days 👀
Ronnie Radke?
@@iliketrains3495 Yep, exactly him
he legit looks like the soul has left his body in that interview. no expression, staring deep into the void that is his life now. sad
I always knew he was FOS, but when he dismissed Crust as not being worthy of discussion, i REALLY knew he was FOS
Being a huge fan of this guy, this breaks my heart
I wonder how many people are apologising to Dan Frampton right about now lol.
Honestly, I can see Finn trying to pull the old "ha ha i was trolling, you suckers will believe anything" next.
We need more Jons, less Finns.
Yeah, him not liking Gojira was always questionable to me!!
Finn McKenty is the way that he is because he got made fun of by Spazz in the 1990s and he never got over it
As a former fan, he just duped us all. He so convincingly seemed like he knew what he was talking about and that he cared about/listened to the music. But, as he revealed himself, he's just a professional conman
His attitude was always so contradictory, like “I’m sticking up for all the people who don’t fit in. Also, if you like something I don’t you’re a nerd and you’re too weird”, etc. He’s always been such a smug, bitter waste of flesh.
I was a fan. I related a lot to Finn's stories about his childhood and I genuinely looked up to him a bit. I found a lot of great music from his channels. Real pissed he took us all for a ride but at least I found some good music I guess.
@@RipleyMadeIt same here. I'm still watching those videos, even though I heard about those allegations. The pop punk/emo videos were cool. If you saw my comment, I talked about other UA-camrs that are also cool 😎. I didn't mention Cover Killer Nation because he's not doing videos anymore, but he's a cool guy. He walked so that every other music UA-camr could run.
By the way I feel your pain.
i was a fan too. i feel really irritated that he just talked down and shit on his entire audience and basically consistently lied to us. Especially when he was saying how stressed out he got when his videos weren't performing well because it was his "main source of income" for his family... and now he says he reached his financial goals with YT... so basically he was gaslighting us into feeling bad for him and prompted us to give him more watch time and more money....
He is probably one of the reasons why Riffhard was gutted from the inside when John Browne left it. For those who don't know, Riffhard is a part of URM Academy, an online school for metal production and Riffhard is its guitar focused offshoot. URM Academy is co-owned by Finn, Joey Sturgis and Eyal Levi (who always came off as a major douche bag).
It was started as a project from Monuments' John Browne, as a new take on the guitar school, focused on riffing and such, instead of shredding solos like the majority of other online guitar courses.
In 2022 John Browne left without so much as a good bye. It created a lot of drama in the community and happened as the site started to have guest instructors that were all shredders from technical death metal bands and super solo focused content.
TL;DR Browne probably left because URM is managed just as well as Finn managed his YT channels.
So Finn is a confirmed asshole. So is Eyal Levi from all his posts in the Riffhard members Facebook group. And Joey is just raking in tons of money from slapping his name on online schools and mediocre plugins (besides the Dino Cazares guitar plugin, which is awesome).
Finn just couldn't stop talking about himself, which led to more problems.
“To Be Honest He Never Really Cared About Punk Rock. Innocent Or Otherwise.”
He also had a blog before the channel, Stuff You Will Hate. He featured one of my guitar covers from a channel I had when I was a kid and I'm sure part of him thought it was cool, but the title was also poking fun at me. Thinking back now as an adult, I was a 17-year-old kid and he was in his mid 30s. That's super weird. I had people comment saying they'd kick my ass if I showed up at the show of the band I was covering in my city, which kind of nerve-wracking as a kid who didn't know the hardcore scene yet. I went and of course nobody did anything, but I didn't know about keyboard warriors and how insufferable some music fans can be. Not sad to see him go in the slightest.
I've never heard of Finn before this video, but honestly, I'm kind of glad I haven't. Getting huge Sunny V2 vibes from him
Ugh, that guy…
What’s wrong with SunnyV2?
@@SupaSavage24 he's a grifter.
@@SupaSavage24 he's been plagiarizing other drama channels for years. among other things.
Not to mention, that annoying "eahhhhhh" at the end of many sentences. Sunny's verbal tic, like a documentary narration version of yarling. :D
Brother, I'm with you. I watch about 3 of his videos and called him out as a poser in the comments of one of them. And, then I blocked his channel. Glad to see I wasn't the only one who caught on early.
I first became a fan of him for similar reasons I enjoyed your channel. It was cool to see someone openly enjoying music genres that would get me mocked by elitists and snobs and hipsters online for enjoying. It was especially cool seeing an older person embrace those genres. Ugh.
I started to see the cracks and lost interest when he uploaded that awful video about Japanese music. The one where he basically said “oh you only like this stuff because you’re weebs who watch anime and have a fetish for asian women”. Terrible video and the opposite of the open-minded positive attitude I enjoyed about his channel. Everything just got worse the more I looked into it. Especially his “anti-woke” wife he met when she was still in high school and he was in his 30s. Ew. Then when I saw this interview I was somehow shocked and not surprised at the same time. What a fake.
I don’t even believe him when he says he doesn’t care about music. He obviously cared to some extent, I think he just started covering music he didn’t care about and got pissy when people criticized how weak his content was getting, so he went for the scorched earth approach and just cut off his whole audience in the most negative, douchey way possible
I feel like him getting mad at his fans for calling him out for his predatorial dating patterns is immature at best
Yeah, I'm also confused with the behavior of Tank The Tech towards this as well. Who's also the tour manager of Electric Callboy, by the way!
Tank's constant defense of Radke is a red flag to me, even though I like him otherwise and enjoy his insights. We all have our blindspots but how anyone could still be defending Ronnie in 2024, I have no idea. Even half his subreddit hates him now lol
Honestly I never ever liked Finn. The first video I ever watched from him was off-putting to me. I found him incredibly arrogant and condescending. I feel vindicated knowing I am right and have been right all this time.
he’s literally just a less famous anthony fantano, he clearly doesn’t actually like Music either
I mean, I keep saying this but "MBA" was your red flag. MBA and punk are two different things. Maybe one day he will reach his goals and get Mangioni'ed
I've got an MBA put on 5 buck punk shows and have been in the scene for 25 years. It's not punk to be stupid.
@@xkidmidnightx That's not the point. Openly tying an MBA to anti-establishment music is a red flag. You can have your MBA, but let's not pretend it's punk. You might as well call yourself the Punk Rock CEO. Sorry, no,
I enjoy punk music and have my MBA. And it’s two completely different mindsets you have to shift into. You can’t really be both at the same time.
Maybe tho I’m the poser in the situation with the MBA 😂 I don’t actually have a passion for business I just wanted to make more money to support my family.
@@ticccylikeasniccy4651 No, you are right. It's my only point. I have an ad degree. I don't bring that into punk.
He's a marketing guy. And EVERYONE is talking about him. He probably did this to get one last cash in from all the curious new viewers of his catalog of videos
Hard agree. He is being so hyperbolic on purpose.
Which is why once a video of his pops up in your recommended, you should press "don't recommend channel." Let the algorithm know.
Tbh I think Finn was knowledgable about the business side of music as he came from marketing.
He understood that you have to sell a character before you sell your music to succeed, which is right, you might not like that, but it’s 100% right and that’s just how the business works.
I don’t believe that he hates music, otherwise why do this for years even before he was on UA-cam.
He hates a lot of Metal and it’s fans, that I do know, as he used to troll and rage bait Metal fans with articles on Metalsucks and Metal Injection before he was on UA-cam.
I just think he didn’t like having to talk about the music he doesn’t like rather than the music he does like.
Finn kept saying on his channel that he wanted to talk more about obscure and underground stuff, but he became a nostalgia channel for Millennial culture and Finn I think deep down didn’t like that.
Finn looked miserable in his videos tbh, he clearly wasn’t happy talking about stuff he didn’t want to talk about, and deep down he doesn’t like the fact he did this just for money.
@@NuMetalfan1996 I remember at one point he said he didn’t like doing his main channel anymore. If you watched his second channel you could see that he was very cynical about a lot of things, so this ending isn’t unexpected.
I literally never liked this guy, but couldn't really articulate it beyond "bad vibes", I feel validated in having a more legit reason to dislike him lol.
Not to mention Finn is a freak, he had an age gap relationship with his current wife which is truly disgusting.
There's nothing wrong with an age gap relationship if both are consenting adults. Why do people care so much about his personal life
i was one of those who always got bad vibes from his videos as well. maybe unlike you though i couldn’t quite put my finger on why that was. now it is abundantly clear that why his videos and him sucked was the complete lack of passion. i don’t fault the fans but i really don’t get how other genuine music lovers followed him so passionately.
Finn is like listening to the teachers from Charlie Brown. He is the room temperature room. He is overcooked, plain buttered noodles. He is a motel 6 in Utah. He is a Weezer cover band. He is so aggressively mid, he should be called Faker. He is Jeff Dunham's terrorist puppet. He is parquet flooring. He is Scary Movie 5. He is a rural train ride at night. He is garlic salt on toast. He is a well done skirt steak. He is Miracle Whip. He is pizza with no toppings. He is Cracked Magazine. He is so bland that he is impossible to pay any attention to.
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i kinda figured he was a fraud. Considering all this content was basically Ragebait and he had zero idea on what good taste in music actually is. Plus, he just has an unlikeable aura about him
It’s a red flag that Nik Nocturnal is still friends with Finn, he’s always friends with disgusting people just because they’re nice to him
Ditto to Become The Knight, shame as I generally like his content.
@@Milo-it1tf I think there must be two sides to Finn’s personality. A number of decent people are friends with him, but a lot of others hate him.
Markjames8664 I don’t think normal people would be friends with him though, especially with his groomer allegations
I have watched his content in the past and I was not aware of his character. His recent response did catch me off guard and to hear him say those things make me feel guilty for even watching his past content. The worst part though is calling out his own fans. Just horrific behavior from a content creator.
Yeah, I've only watched him a couple of years for his take on thr 2000a Pop Punk and I guess should be insulted. 😂
I feel like this video would be 50% less scathing if finn had never talked about Ronnie Radke in a non-negative sense
i gotta say, I'm real curious as to how Ronnie's gonna take learning about this since it seems like his life is taking hits from all angles right now - self inflicted, he is MORE than old enough to not be acting this way. When I found out he's only a couple years younger than me I was like yoooo ain't no way, that is straight up embarrassing for a middle aged man to make tiktoks blasting people inc literal nobodies for daring to be negative, and giving shoutouts and access to the people who always kiss his ass (coughrockfeedcough)
I discovered so many of my now favorite bands through him. It seems like he changed at some point a few years ago.
There is nothing metal about Falling in Reverse. I wish they would go away.
I thought Dan Frampton’s video went hard but this was brutal. I really believe the guy would rather be called a poser than having to carry his girl’s situation. Having said this, I think the guy’s playing all of us.
Haha this is my last Finn video (I think), but I had to check out your reaction!
It's such a bizarre situation. Not uncommon that people don't enjoy their work. But his next steps as trying to being a linked-in influencer/life coach is so odd when the advice is essentially "be miserable and burn tons of bridges while you work if it makes you money".
Finn McCunty
Someone pointed out that Finn and his wife got together while she was still a minor and he was around 30. And now that it's starting to come out, he pulled this stunt as a cover up. 🤔
So he’s going from one grift to another
@@jefferyjones8399 yes lmao
Just wait five years for Finn to come out and say, “Yeah, I have no interest in LinkedIn. Those idiots who paid me thousands of dollars to regurgitate self-help slop for months were the only reasons I stayed for as long as I did.”
I started watching his channel about two years ago. He posted on a pretty regular schedule, and what seemed to happen in the last six months was several other music/genre music/metal youtubers began to call him out for his formulaic approach, the generic format and structure of the videos themselves, and the scripts which, as you mentioned, could've been lifted from a wiki on the bands or albums being profiled. These callouts began to get traction, and then we get the interview where Finn McTwatty shits all over his own body of work and his audience (Wow, two-for-one shot)
Yeah, what a prick!
Im glad he got his money, he didn't play the dumb mans game.
finn is the only honest music grifter in the scene. meanwhile we have braindead reaction channels and content farmers following whatever trends. i can respect his middle finger of a farewell… the youtube underground music scene is shit
I'll give him a prop (just the one) for being honest about it, he even said in the interview that you have to make your choice on if you want to follow your passion, or follow what gets you clicks (paraphrased). Any reaction channel where they love the song no matter the genre, artist, subject matter - that's not genuine and I can't respect that. Especially when you find out behind the scenes they're deliberately trying to play to the algorithm and if the first time they review an artists it doesn't get enough views in the first X hours - even if it gets lots of views in total - nope to much of a hit to the aglo, not going to touch that artist again sorry. With a bonus of sometimes copping blame for that lol
I.e., lying is all good. Interesting take!
I still have a hard time wrapping my brain around the concept of how anyone could be in UA-cam “for the money” when the vast majority of channels I watch are just people geeking out over things they love (music, travel, TV, whatever) and maybe some of them make a steady living off of it, but it’s probably not “meet my financial goals so I can retire” money. Then someone comes along who doesn’t give a crap about the topic, just regurgitates Wikipedia, and makes bank. So infuriating.
I always felt this dude was off. Turns out the edge lord vibe was right.
God this man has to be empty inside. How do you conciously say "life is short, dont spend it doing something you dont want to do" but then DO EXACTLY THAT for 7 whole years wtaf. Also such a disgusting personality he has, saying musicians are a lost cause because they dont make a lot of money, when the Husk he embellishes fails tk recognize what love is, and that musicians do it for the love of music and the love of what they do. God i am actually disgusted