I'm glad everyone in the comments understands that wear is a result of friction. I assumed this much was obvious - but it is wrong to assume. When I stated wear occurs as a result of heat, my intention was to explain that heat can dramatically accelerate wear. The brake pads and tires were my example. Hope you're all having a great day!
Can drums be drilled for it to decrease heat, and water insertion or should it damage the drum also if you make a vid how drums work it will be much appreciated thanks
+zerohunter64 They could but they wouldn't work for very long after that. Water in the drum is an awful idea. Spray it on the outside in that case. But why bother improving redundant technology that can never be better than what replaced it? It's better just to change to disks, because it's not brake fade that's the issue with drums.
Well i know but some very old cars have drums in the four wheels and when its raining its very hard to stop and upgrading to disk is too much money involve thats why i ask if is possible. Oh and the holes are for removing the water not for inserting water
+Engineering Explained I think you simplified this explanation a little too much but I think I get your intention. Supposing you are right with the life span of it, there is still the point that it just hurts my ears.
what you say is actually written in the owner's manual of my 1953 Citroen Traction Avant ! in french, of course, but it's someething like : "Using brakes is an useless expense. use only when absolutely necessary"
Except that as a socket wrench spins in the reverse direction it is under 0 load. When using the ratchet on the parking brake, the load increases with each click. I agree with Jason when he says if it is worn out the car is probably done too, but it still does create needless wear when the alternative is so incredibly easy. I guess a lot of "us" just see it as laziness
Look at it again... Its not the ratchet increasing load, its the cable tension because you're aplying pressure to the brake pads (its not actually changing any wear with the ratchet mechanism, look at it closely). If you were to disconnect your brake cable, it would move buttery smooth, its not the ratchet. Remember to connect the brake cables afterwards though!
the wear is so negligible it doesnt matter. thats the whole point of the video. car parts are meant to last to a certain extent and parking brakes arent used too often
@@odeo5691 simple fix is to lock the car from the inside and have your spare door key clipped to the inside of your gas cap door or under a bumper etcetera. Cops tie em to the gas cap so they can leave the a/c on while they keep it locked
@@sinisavujkovic8299 One of my cousins managed to break the handbrake ratchet on his Civic too. It was honestly the first time I saw a broken handbrake ratchet. I've seen ratchets that have stopped working but broken ratchet was a first lol.
Even later. I had a Peugeot where the handbrake ratchet wore out to the extent it would release if you tapped on the handle. Pulling the button in saves taking the edge off the teeth
+amanoncrack I don't think it's an emergency brake anymore. It's a parking brake. I need to test, but I wonder if it will even work if the cars battery is dead/disconnected.
amanoncrack I don't know, probably to simplify the interior. A big handle does take quite the space in the middle. Electronic brakes are also good since you don't need to tighten the cable, but does of course mean that repairs will be much more expensive. Sad thing is that I live in Sweden where there are a lot of snow, and I can't do any handbrake turns or anything to have fun in the snow due to that button. It's a frontwheel drive too. It's a very boring car, but I still love it
Look at the smirk on his face throughout the video, he's laughing inside cause he probably can't believe he's having to explain a parking break to people who give him crap for it
Do not push on the throtle you will wear it out, Tie a bit of string to it and pull.. Lol Do you not just see the rachete thing?.. if you say you wear the hand brake and should not use it,, then you must be one that dose not use the rachete on you spanner,,, simple Logic as spok would say
i never use the hand-brake i don't want to wear out my pads, in fact i still have a brand new car in my garage from 2005 i don't drive it because i don't want to get bugs on the paint.
@@daily501 I was taking the piss. I’ve binned quite a few down the years mostly Britool as that’s my favourite brand. ( after keeping them for potential spares, I got real and chucked them) There’s a lot of people who seem to think that the metall to metal contact and stress in a handbrake ratchet is exempt from the rules of physics that eventually fucks everything else.
@@highdownmartin i was replying to original comment mate. I fully agree with you about the metal to metal wear, I always push the button when operating handbrake lever. Have a good Bank Holiday weekend mate
I was told not to turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right when turning my car at a U-turn. Is this another case of people educated by those that don't understand things?
+PacificCoastAuto They were probably showing concern for the steering pump which will be running even though your wheel is at full lock. I don't know if this puts serious wear on the steering pump or not. You're probably fine doing this though- a U-turn is not a very common driving maneuver and, similarly to the ratcheting mechanism in the hand break, your car is designed to be able to turn to full lock. Manufacturers are smart enough to design vehicles to be able to do the functions they are able to do (including U-turns) without breaking immediately from normal use. It'd be interesting to see what Jason has to say about this as well. +Engineering Explained
+PacificCoastAuto It is a good measure not to reach the end of the travel of the steering wheel.. but depends on the system. Some old hydraulic unit will work harder (but within designed limits.. the over pressure valve will come off and the system will be running at max pressure designed. Some systems will have a valve at the end of travel to release all the pressure from the pump at full lock. So aside the fluid circulating rapidly trough that valve without genearting any pressure is no real harm. Whichever the system.. even non assisted, the full lock position will rest somewhere (at the steering rack end travel usually).. so any additional torque beside the lock will torqueout the pinion and rack - and if monkeyed around can cause harm.
Yes friction, but you would probably have to sit there pulling it up and letting it down for a pretty long time for there to be enough wear for it to fail. Like a thousand years.
But the damage the friction creates is so small it can be disregarded. Very small quantities that are used to describe inevitably larger numbers are sometimes not needed since they affect it a very small quantities that isn't even noticeable until a very very long time frame. But if you are oh so well versed scientifically and care so much for that small detail then instead of using 300 000 000 as the speed of light, use the exact value which is 299 792 458 in every computation you would use that constant. Also, when facing non-repeating decimal numbers, like the value of pi, use as much of the space you can to write the farthest decimal value you can since accuracy is that important to you. Lol.
while I completely agree with you that the ratchet mechanism on the handbrake is designed to be used... as a ratchet, I disagree with your statement that wear is caused by heat. heat is caused by friction, wear is also caused by friction, it's just that when you have enough friction to cause significant amounts of heat very regularly then there is a lot of friction, lots of friction also causes lots of wear.
+Engineering Explained although i agree with your points, i think you could have used the term negligible more. yes, using the ratchet will cause wear. any contact between surfaces will cause wear. but this system is great because it is cheap and the wear is negligible. the heat generated from use is soo minute that i doubt it could even be measured. but i love your comment about how if the ratchet wears out... the car is probably done anyway. still, there can be an occasion where these parts wear out... but even then... lets be honest. it isnt the most expensive fix for a car. a ratchet mechanism, some metal and plastic. buy the new part and self installation would be under an hour.
+Engineering Explained how fast to tires wear out during handbrake turns? is there a proper way to execute a turn without completely mutilating the tire?
+Engineering Explained thanks for your explanation, it may be worth making this a subject of another video or more specifically about heat stresses. I'd still maintain that heat in itself doesn't cause wear, however that it can accelerate the wear of components which experience extreme heat stresses such as brake discs where the constant heating and cooling can cause microscopic surface fractures which will then wear more quickly when friction is applied but the heat in itself hasn't caused wear of the discs. Heat is generated in the ratchet mechanism, but not enough to cause the stresses that produce effects which can cause accelerated wear.
+xartpant I've had cars past 300k and they still haven't worn out the parking break ratchet. Anyone who is afraid of any wear at all might as well never drive their car
+GrimFaceHunter If you spill something on it once it's nothing but if it becomes a problem to where you have to take extra precautions to protect a remote from spills, you should maybe stop spilling your drink on your remotes. The problem isn't the remote getting wet.
Alec Cross That is if you dont use it properly. Like if u use it to enhance the fluidity of your Work flow like imagine having a business and you need to go to several places at once. If it is a financial drain to you , it may not be the case to other people,.
@@nikyabodigital its called a "joke" you know, comedy? relax bro no need to take it so seriously plus he didnt ask for your opinon lol stfu and mind your business
Ratchets do wear out. The internals have to be replaced after a bit of use. Any pro mechanic has rebuilt their ratchet or had the tool truck do it. With that said, I agree with this video.
My son broke the button on his 08’ eclipse so it doesn’t ratchet at all, at least it isn’t stuck in the up position, won’t lock the e-brake, he lost the plastic button, have to replace the entire e-brake, handle and all. Freaking Mitsubishi
Thank you for calling it a "parking brake" and not an "e brake". What a relief. I expect that when you do videos on "wheels" you call them "wheels" and not "rims" too. Keep up the good work!
i like to test my car when i stop on a hill and see how many clicks it takes for the car to stop moving, well i get bored waiting for my woman to get ready and come of the house..
The parking break should be pulled all the way, all the time. But usually carmakers do tests to figure how many 'clicks' it takes to park the car on a predetermined hill.
More than ten years ago when I was a learner driver, my driving instructor told me that pulling up the handbrake without pressing the button would wear out the mechanism. Since then, I've always pressed the button and when I accidentally make it make a bit of noise or hear someone else pulling up their handbrake fully and making a long grating noise, it makes me wince and think that it's created a bit of damage!
The ratcheting sound is good. It tells the passengers the handbrake has been applied and it's safe to get out of the car. Great for kids who are in a rush to get out of the car i.e "don't open your doors till you hear the handbrake."
Great video. My understanding is exactly yours. However my driving instructor (43 years ago!) told me to press the button in, so I've been doing that for the last 44 years. I admit the silence of the action of applying the handbrake with button depressed is subjectively more 'refined' than the ratchet sound and his car was new-ish so I can kind of understand his reaction, but scientific and logical it was not! You make very enjoyable videos. Subscribed! All the best, Rob in Switzerland.
My 22yr old corolla (315,000 km) has had the no button hand brake pull from me for the last 21 years. My Dad taught me not to use the button when engaging the hand brake because it may overstretch the cable. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have had discussions with others who argue to depress the button. Lol. Thanks for the clip. Makes perfect sense to me. Love your informative and easy to understand videos. Thanks.
Funny that Car Throttle had this listed as one of the things to never do. Maybe u need to take a trip to UK and talk with him in the tiny bathroom again. Keep up the great content
Finally! I'm so sick of hearing people saying you should press the button and then pull up and trying to explain to them it causes no harm. I hope this videos get mores views in the coming weeks because people really need to understand this. Parking brakes located in the footwells make the same noise too! Apparently, people lack common sense. Which doesn't seem very common these days. Also, reading these comments, how is the sound annoying? I suppose starting up the car sounds annoying? Typing on your keyboard sounds annoying? How about the noise your shower makes when it turns on? Seriously, if your response to this is "the sound is annoying," please stick to public transit.
Oh no, come to think of it, my car will wear out if I drive it! I'll just walk, and petition for a ban on cars, cuz you know, they'll wear out if you use them.
+Choujeen Yeah, I've recently come to terms with this, noticed how my handbrake doesn't actually engage well enough unless I click the ratchet at least once.
45 years in the motor trade and never saw one handbrake ratchet replaced ever. had the same snap on ratchet for 30 years approx. still works perfect. Urban myth a bit like "a swan can break your leg with its wing" lol..
The only trouble that I have experienced in my 38 years of driving is that the cables stretch and fail first. I have lived in some hilly areas of the fruited plain, always turn your wheels toward the curb and use your handbrake. I've watched many folks chasing their vehicles down the street. Sam.
Pushing the button involves more moving pieces wich are also more fragile, so I'd say that pushing the button might actually lead to more problems than not pushing it!
c0c0asauce no it will not. There is no friction being applied on it. How the hell is it going to wear out??? I have that's 50 years old by now and the handbrake still works fine. And the button has never been pressed when pulling it up.
Ryan Borgerding and precisely what I said, there is nothing rubbing against the button. There's an entire layer of it. It'll take centuries for it to wear out.
It's the same when people tell you not to crack your knuckles because so called bad things will happen to your hands, in actual fact, it's more to do with people finding the crunching sound irritating lol.
The clicks are actually designed to give the driver a feedback how tight he's using the handbrake. You don't have to pull it all the way up everytime - just on let's say down or uphill. On a flat surface you don't need that much brake pressure or don't even use it at all: some say the inserted gear after power off the car is enough to hold it. Personally I prefer to use the handbrake as second guard against rolling...
I wore out my handbrake in Tokyo when I was drifting against the grandson of yakuza mafia boss. Should I keep using the e brake while drifting in my fwd car or just use the brakes?
+Chola Tech Its front wheel drive, more gas = understeer, you won't be drifting you'll be going straight for the wall. However if it were RWD more gas would be correct. I would just use the hand brake, just look on eBay how much a new hand brake mechanism costs so you know what you are getting into if you damage it. The problem with using your brakes is it gots to all four wheels so I don't see how you could possibly drift by doing that. ALSO are you sure you haven't just worn down your back brakes? Try adjusting your handbrake if you have drum brakes it is incredibly simple you just hit the drum off when you are changing tires and there is a brake adjuster that will let you tighten the hand brake. If you have disk brakes it is a bit more complicated but still not hard just look it up on youtube. I believe +ChrisFix has a video on it.
I somehow avoided that advice for a long time, and the first time someone finally gave it to me they phrased it in a way that left me with the impression that yeah it's designed for that and all, so it's not actually hurting anything, but they personally just liked doing that because it felt like taking slightly better care of their car, with something easy. Now I do it for the same reason. I just like feeling like I'm being more gentle with my car. And it certainly doesn't hurt, right?
I've never used in the button in my 93' Fox Mustang, the only way I feel comfortable about it being activated is if I can actually hear the mechanical action.
I've done this in videos without paying attention so many times and the comment section is 99% having a go at me for it. Thank you for this. I can sleep at night now.
I've never pressed the button when applying the Handbrake! In fact, I never even knew people could think this was wrong! It just feels weird applying it with the button pressed!
This is a tip I learned years ago, before you pull the handbrake on press the footbrake hard .This pre applies the brake pads or shoes against the disc or drum and increases the efficiency of the handbrake application needing less effort and less stress on the mechanism.
If you’re pulling up the handbrake, you’re probably already stopped with your foot on the brake, meaning the pads are already contacting the rotors. Pushing harder on the pedal shouldn’t have much effect on the work the handbrake has to do, apart from some negligible flex in the braking system.
One more thing to add to the video; these parts are grinding with very very little force; the hammer is just resting on the teeth with very small spring tension, and when you pull the lever, it just drops lightly on the next tooth then the next, etc. Besides, this is all steel to steel sliding, even if you do this everyday for hours for ten years you will not see any change
A problem of pulling it with the button depressed is that you don't get the feedback to tell you it is fully engaged. If it lands on a tooth instead of between teeth, you might not realise it and if your cable is a bit worn or loose that could mean that your car isn't adequately secured against rolling off on an incline
I totally agree that, on a well designed and built hand/parking brake the ratchet should be used as you describe. However, wear is not caused solely by heat. I once drove a van where the pawl of the hand/parking brake was made of mild steel working on a hardened ratchet and it did wear out. Cheap and not correctly designed, but cheap enough to replace.
typically its not the ratchet mechanism that wears out as shown in the video, but this method usually results in stretching of the handbrake cable itself. even if only over done by one or two teeth at a time it can still cause the cable to stretch, some people have a tendency to pull the lever harder than they need to when not using the button. most people will hit the same spot all the time which means that there isn't any noticeable stretch of the cable, however some people pull the lever unnecessarily hard and stretch the cable needing it to be replaced. it seems like people have been miss informed by someone at some point as to what actually wears out, could have been car garages trying to make some extra money by duping customers
Hello there! I think there might be a small opportunity for misconception on the problem stated here and the solution given. I just spend a good portion of the afternoon fixing my handbrake and I had to do a bit or learning for it. It might be that the part that has led to the idea that the hand brake wears out is not the ratchet mechanism itself but the connection to the actuator button. In the handbrake mechanism for my car (golf a4) The button assembly is a long piston like rod that has the button on one side and on the other one is connected to the ratchet lever by means of a small indentation. The ratchet lever goes trough a small hole in the rod and it is not connected directly, but just sit there loosely. Every time the button us pushed it moves the lever of the ratchet and unlocks the position, but if the ratchet is run without pressing the button it bounces and jiggles freely in that hole, hammering slightly at the rod with the force of the ratchet's spring on each step. The problem here is that this rod is made of plastic, and the ratchet lever is metal. I don't think the ratchet or its lever would ever get worn out significantly during the normal use of the car. But the union of the button's rod and ratchet's lever certainly could, that's what happened on my car, it broke right there, you could tell by the pattern in which the piece cracked. A small metal piece hammering at a rigid plastic part over years would certainly cause a problem. I saw that the button assembly in your car appears to be a metal rod and has no access to the point of contact from that rod to the ratchet lever. But that is not the only mechanism there is for handbrakes. My car has access to that joint point, and, when I was looking for the parts to fix my handbrake I found a lot of others from different brands and makers that also use a plastic rod or had a similar approach. Also, I think the fact that they sell that piece individually and not the whole assembly is another clue to the fact that there is a weak point there. I am certain that holding the button would prevent or delay the wear on that piece, and my car would not had needed to be fixed now if we had done that as a precaution. Of course there are lots of caveats. In my case it took almost 20 years for that piece to break down. Also, I live in a very hot place, and my car is dark. The heat has certainly weaken every plastic inside my car over the years. Now while I know holding the button would help, I don't know if it is worth it to do it to avoid breaking that part. Or if its worth to be aware of that potential damage. For me, It took oh so long to break down, and I definitely love the handbrake ratchet's sound and feel, also to change that piece was an easy fix. However, I certainly know that the idea of not pressing the button causing wear and the potential to break the handbrake because of it is true. At least for many makers and brands and under certain fairly common conditions. I just wanted to let what I learn be known. To give some context or maybe justification to some of the comments and ideas about the handbrake. Though I am sure many of those that defend the point of holding the button and think that the ratchet would get damaged are wrong for the reasons you explained maybe my findings can help give some light to the origins of the myth. Or why is not really a myth to begin with, but has a different mechanism of wear than the one commonly believed. Other thing, when I went to the mechanic at the dealership to try to get my handbrake fixed, they told me they would need to replace the whole piece, not just the button's rod. I am not sure if they told me this out of ignorance on the workings of the part or if they wanted to sell more, but I think this is also a good example of why would people believe that not pressing the button causes damage in the whole handbrake ratchet mechanism. I hope my explanation was clear and that it was useful, also hope that Jason gets to see my comment and it doesn't get lost in the sea of notifications haha Thank you very much, I'm a long time fan, I really enjoy the videos!
Hope none of the people who say this is bad have ever ridden roller coasters. The exact same mechanism is used as a fail safe, that's the "click, click, click" sound you hear going up hill.
It's such a low usage part too. How often does an E-brake get used during normal operation? Once when you stop, maybe once when you hit a real bad hill and you aren't too confident in your hill start abilities. You use a part that little, you don't have to worry so much about it wearing out. I'm glad you broke out a socket wrench too, that's exactly what I was thinking about.
In the U.K., the advanced motorist training also says press the button and would mark you down if you did. When asked why, they say it is to stop wear. Like in the video, I replied, "When was the last time you heard someone say they had to get their car into a garage to change the handbrake mechanism" which shut them up but they still mark against it. Love the ratchet spanner analogy, wish I'd thought of that.
I'm glad everyone in the comments understands that wear is a result of friction. I assumed this much was obvious - but it is wrong to assume. When I stated wear occurs as a result of heat, my intention was to explain that heat can dramatically accelerate wear. The brake pads and tires were my example. Hope you're all having a great day!
Can drums be drilled for it to decrease heat, and water insertion or should it damage the drum also if you make a vid how drums work it will be much appreciated thanks
+zerohunter64 They could but they wouldn't work for very long after that. Water in the drum is an awful idea. Spray it on the outside in that case. But why bother improving redundant technology that can never be better than what replaced it? It's better just to change to disks, because it's not brake fade that's the issue with drums.
Well i know but some very old cars have drums in the four wheels and when its raining its very hard to stop and upgrading to disk is too much money involve thats why i ask if is possible. Oh and the holes are for removing the water not for inserting water
zerohunter64 There should not be water in them.
+Engineering Explained I think you simplified this explanation a little too much but I think I get your intention. Supposing you are right with the life span of it, there is still the point that it just hurts my ears.
The handbrake on my truck has been pulled without pressing the button for 47 years and almost 600,000 miles and it still works the same as always.
+luke Fugate That's awesome that your truck is still ticking!
Engineering Explained It's been driven by four generations of my family. I still drive it out of the creek(shown in my profile pic)every day.
+luke Fugate same here but it's actually 20 y/o 4x4 and around 550.000km (don't know how much in miles)
+someone That's about 341,754 miles.
+RedBearded T (SRN) lol. "That's about exactly this specific number"
Better not engage the brakes when driving, it causes unnecessary wear to the brake pads and shortens the life of them!
+Angry Skipper and it wastes kinetic energy, lowering your fuel economy, great info thanks for sharing!
I was merely being satire :) Haha
To all the people who are saying they still want to engage the handbrake with the button.
what you say is actually written in the owner's manual of my 1953 Citroen Traction Avant ! in french, of course, but it's someething like : "Using brakes is an useless expense. use only when absolutely necessary"
I'm hope that translates to "brakes" not "breaks.
randomly whips out a brake disc and pad
Seems normal to me ;)
Kurai Ryuu Please, he carries a clutch plate everywhere he goes
Dont you carry one with you on a daily basis
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
How is it random when the topic is brakes?
that socket wrench analogy was gold
Exactly!
My socket wrench wore out and wasn't a cheap Chinese one. It was a bacho one.
Except that as a socket wrench spins in the reverse direction it is under 0 load. When using the ratchet on the parking brake, the load increases with each click. I agree with Jason when he says if it is worn out the car is probably done too, but it still does create needless wear when the alternative is so incredibly easy. I guess a lot of "us" just see it as laziness
Look at it again... Its not the ratchet increasing load, its the cable tension because you're aplying pressure to the brake pads (its not actually changing any wear with the ratchet mechanism, look at it closely). If you were to disconnect your brake cable, it would move buttery smooth, its not the ratchet. Remember to connect the brake cables afterwards though!
the wear is so negligible it doesnt matter. thats the whole point of the video. car parts are meant to last to a certain extent and parking brakes arent used too often
I always use mcdonnald's drive-though instead of going inside in order to avoid wearing out the dome light.
Yeah, but then you excessively wear out your window and window support system from rolling it up and down and up and down and..... :-P
Yea so wear out your starter instead
@@pauliespats112 That's why people go inside and leave it idling for 10 minutes, so the starter doesn't wear out ;)
@@MozzaBurger88 seems like a good way to get a car stolen
@@odeo5691 simple fix is to lock the car from the inside and have your spare door key clipped to the inside of your gas cap door or under a bumper etcetera. Cops tie em to the gas cap so they can leave the a/c on while they keep it locked
It is so refreshing to hear someone using facts and logic instead of "feelings" to prove their point. Well done.
Don Brotherton like Christianity
White Lmh Any religion at all
So it's called engineering
@@filmweaver2013 it's called science
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I wonder if anyone has ever had to replace the ratchet mechanism. I've never heard of one wearing out.
Way too late, but I have an AE92 Corolla from the 90s. I engage the handbrake regularly, multiple times. It's not even close to getting worn out.
Well my brother in his 1992 golf mk2 completly splited in half ratcheting mechanism, idk how but he did it
@@sinisavujkovic8299 One of my cousins managed to break the handbrake ratchet on his Civic too. It was honestly the first time I saw a broken handbrake ratchet. I've seen ratchets that have stopped working but broken ratchet was a first lol.
I have
Even later. I had a Peugeot where the handbrake ratchet wore out to the extent it would release if you tapped on the handle. Pulling the button in saves taking the edge off the teeth
It won't break, it will just brake.
Wow, that was bad. :P
oh, stop
Here have a cookie
I like it 😂
o, my, god
Even though you posted this 2 years ago I still want you to get out! Lol
personally I love the ratcheting sound. Auto manufacturers should make it even louder.
lol
+Wayne Wildman I agree. I own a newer VW Passat and it has an electrical handbrake. I miss the click sound :(
+amanoncrack I don't think it's an emergency brake anymore. It's a parking brake. I need to test, but I wonder if it will even work if the cars battery is dead/disconnected.
amanoncrack I don't know, probably to simplify the interior. A big handle does take quite the space in the middle. Electronic brakes are also good since you don't need to tighten the cable, but does of course mean that repairs will be much more expensive.
Sad thing is that I live in Sweden where there are a lot of snow, and I can't do any handbrake turns or anything to have fun in the snow due to that button. It's a frontwheel drive too. It's a very boring car, but I still love it
Jason Taylor The brake would be on if I put it on before disconnecting the battery, but if I disconnect it prior to pressing it it wouldn't work
Am I the only one who loves the sound of a proper hand brake ratcheting?
Same
No I know what you mean joint the gang, You know it has cault on as high a point as it can when you do not hit that button,,
yeah..u are the best musician..every single knot of sound is an art.. lol
Same. I feel like it's holding hard and sure when i hear that sound
wait...are you the british guy i talked to in jackfrags video?
Here's one for the "worried about wear" crowd: pressing the button when applying the parking break will wear out the spring! 🙃
Aaaaaahhhhhhhh! Now what do I do?!
@@briant7265 don't use the brakes at all. just let the environment stop your car 😅
@@zumabbar 😆😂😂
@@zumabbar aaahhhhhh yes natural selection
I only push the button for handbrake turns.
Look at the smirk on his face throughout the video, he's laughing inside cause he probably can't believe he's having to explain a parking break to people who give him crap for it
+Alex Silva brake*, and I noticed that too I was laughing with him.
Can't believe people need to have the correct spelling of brake explained to them.
the linkage and bears of the ratchet system, also it wears and puts tension on the brake cables if you use the handbrake, better to not use it at all
Hilarious
I sure hope those Car Throttle guys saw this.
Do not push on the throtle you will wear it out, Tie a bit of string to it and pull.. Lol
Do you not just see the rachete thing?.. if you say you wear the hand brake and should not use it,, then you must be one that dose not use the rachete on you spanner,,, simple Logic as spok would say
Kevin Lew lol, those guys are ridiculous.
i pull my handbrake up to make toast on the hood
Tbh, they didn't say that it's wearing the handbrake out, they are just addressing the noise that it makes.
same noise when you put the car in park while driving... bet you don't do that every time you put it in park either.
i never use the hand-brake i don't want to wear out my pads, in fact i still have a brand new car in my garage from 2005 i don't drive it because i don't want to get bugs on the paint.
At first I was gunnu be like this guys a complete dumbass then I started laughing lololol😂😂
Holy crap. Give it a few more years and your car becomes a highly priced antique.
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Ralph Körner engineering is mostly made up of physics
Ralph Körner engineering is based on physical sciences.....
Ralph Körner Yes, engineering that was based on physics... what’s the point of this comment lmao
I always pulled the handbrake without pushing the button. I assumed the button was only for putting it down.
Same
You must be very smart
Because it is
Hi bladed
you assumed right
+1 for using the socket wrench as a great example.
"The thing to think about when thinking about"
lol
OveRMinDTR
Spoken like a true engineer!
Hahaha I was wondering if someone else would write that in the comments ;-DD
He roasted everyone with the socket wrench example v
Socket wrench’s never wear out do they?
I've worn out a couple of 3/8 ratchets, they just slip because the teeth were worn down.
@@daily501 I was taking the piss. I’ve binned quite a few down the years mostly Britool as that’s my favourite brand. ( after keeping them for potential spares, I got real and chucked them)
There’s a lot of people who seem to think that the metall to metal contact and stress in a handbrake ratchet is exempt from the rules of physics that eventually fucks everything else.
@@highdownmartin i was replying to original comment mate. I fully agree with you about the metal to metal wear, I always push the button when operating handbrake lever. Have a good Bank Holiday weekend mate
@@daily501 and you fella
I was told not to turn the steering wheel all the way to the left or right when turning my car at a U-turn. Is this another case of people educated by those that don't understand things?
+PacificCoastAuto yeah
+PacificCoastAuto Yes
anyone?
+PacificCoastAuto They were probably showing concern for the steering pump which will be running even though your wheel is at full lock. I don't know if this puts serious wear on the steering pump or not. You're probably fine doing this though- a U-turn is not a very common driving maneuver and, similarly to the ratcheting mechanism in the hand break, your car is designed to be able to turn to full lock. Manufacturers are smart enough to design vehicles to be able to do the functions they are able to do (including U-turns) without breaking immediately from normal use.
It'd be interesting to see what Jason has to say about this as well. +Engineering Explained
+PacificCoastAuto
It is a good measure not to reach the end of the travel of the steering wheel.. but depends on the system. Some old hydraulic unit will work harder (but within designed limits.. the over pressure valve will come off and the system will be running at max pressure designed.
Some systems will have a valve at the end of travel to release all the pressure from the pump at full lock. So aside the fluid circulating rapidly trough that valve without genearting any pressure is no real harm.
Whichever the system.. even non assisted, the full lock position will rest somewhere (at the steering rack end travel usually).. so any additional torque beside the lock will torqueout the pinion and rack - and if monkeyed around can cause harm.
Thank you to Car Throttle for perpetuating this myth.
lol
Friction causes heat, genius.
Yes friction, but you would probably have to sit there pulling it up and letting it down for a pretty long time for there to be enough wear for it to fail. Like a thousand years.
But the damage the friction creates is so small it can be disregarded. Very small quantities that are used to describe inevitably larger numbers are sometimes not needed since they affect it a very small quantities that isn't even noticeable until a very very long time frame. But if you are oh so well versed scientifically and care so much for that small detail then instead of using 300 000 000 as the speed of light, use the exact value which is 299 792 458 in every computation you would use that constant. Also, when facing non-repeating decimal numbers, like the value of pi, use as much of the space you can to write the farthest decimal value you can since accuracy is that important to you. Lol.
Yeah you'd only have to ratchet the hand brake up about 1 billion times to wear it down enough to not work anymore. What a smart thing to mention.
I gotta show this video to my mom... She keeps telling me not the pull the handbreak without pushing the button. Thanks, now I will be relieved.
while I completely agree with you that the ratchet mechanism on the handbrake is designed to be used... as a ratchet, I disagree with your statement that wear is caused by heat. heat is caused by friction, wear is also caused by friction, it's just that when you have enough friction to cause significant amounts of heat very regularly then there is a lot of friction, lots of friction also causes lots of wear.
+Neil Sheriff Heat accelerates wear. Apologies if that point was unclear - obviously there must be friction for wear.
+Engineering Explained although i agree with your points, i think you could have used the term negligible more. yes, using the ratchet will cause wear. any contact between surfaces will cause wear. but this system is great because it is cheap and the wear is negligible. the heat generated from use is soo minute that i doubt it could even be measured. but i love your comment about how if the ratchet wears out... the car is probably done anyway. still, there can be an occasion where these parts wear out... but even then... lets be honest. it isnt the most expensive fix for a car. a ratchet mechanism, some metal and plastic. buy the new part and self installation would be under an hour.
+Engineering Explained how fast to tires wear out during handbrake turns? is there a proper way to execute a turn without completely mutilating the tire?
+Engineering Explained thanks for your explanation, it may be worth making this a subject of another video or more specifically about heat stresses. I'd still maintain that heat in itself doesn't cause wear, however that it can accelerate the wear of components which experience extreme heat stresses such as brake discs where the constant heating and cooling can cause microscopic surface fractures which will then wear more quickly when friction is applied but the heat in itself hasn't caused wear of the discs. Heat is generated in the ratchet mechanism, but not enough to cause the stresses that produce effects which can cause accelerated wear.
Thomas Ferguson ... are you serious?
Those kinds of drivers keep their tv remote in a plastic baggy
+xartpant Hey, it does sound like someone is overly cautious, but it makes sense after the first time you get something spilled on it.
+xartpant I've had cars past 300k and they still haven't worn out the parking break ratchet. Anyone who is afraid of any wear at all might as well never drive their car
+GrimFaceHunter If you spill something on it once it's nothing but if it becomes a problem to where you have to take extra precautions to protect a remote from spills, you should maybe stop spilling your drink on your remotes. The problem isn't the remote getting wet.
Grant Brewer Well, there are also other people using the remote and accidents do happen.
Don't buy a car. It will wear down your financial capabilities.
That's so true it gets sad...
Alec Cross That is if you dont use it properly. Like if u use it to enhance the fluidity of your Work flow like imagine having a business and you need to go to several places at once. If it is a financial drain to you , it may not be the case to other people,.
Tarciso Filho tell me more
@@nikyabodigital its called a "joke" you know, comedy? relax bro no need to take it so seriously plus he didnt ask for your opinon lol stfu and mind your business
Don' pay a internet. It will wear down....
The socket wrench was a great comparison. That's a way to prove a point!
+Jeff V agreed
Ratchets do wear out. The internals have to be replaced after a bit of use. Any pro mechanic has rebuilt their ratchet or had the tool truck do it. With that said, I agree with this video.
I love this, its always driven me crazy how people hate clicking the handbrake, but will gladly let out a clutch at 3500 rpm
+smoky bandaid It feels so satisfying to do it when you stop the car though, it's like the sound that signals the end of the drive.
Exactly, And besides, whos ever heard of a handbrake clicker wearing out.
The socket wrench analogy was a gem, thank you so much for this
Pushing the button wears out the button!
+Green Black looooool
My son broke the button on his 08’ eclipse so it doesn’t ratchet at all, at least it isn’t stuck in the up position, won’t lock the e-brake, he lost the plastic button, have to replace the entire e-brake, handle and all. Freaking Mitsubishi
@@mfhouse2112 Should of bought a Subaru, jk I like Mitsubishi also
In Alex's words, "it's like going in without lube"
Thank you for calling it a "parking brake" and not an "e brake". What a relief. I expect that when you do videos on "wheels" you call them "wheels" and not "rims" too. Keep up the good work!
Car Throttle is going to be pissed! lol
IKR, but its the truth, Alex needs to understand it already.
I love how you don't just tell people that it's not going to hurt it, you pull one apart and show the mechanism! Very happy I subscribed.
i like to test my car when i stop on a hill and see how many clicks it takes for the car to stop moving, well i get bored waiting for my woman to get ready and come of the house..
How many clicks to stop the car on a 2% grade? How many clicks total? How many clicks before it's time for new brakes?
T Shuart Ha Ha I am not sure how many but i think thet fail on the amount it moves as the mot fail will say . " Hand brake travel excesive"
Same here
On a very steep hill, 4 clicks would be enough
AthletismeQc I just pull it up till I feel it’s enough lol
The parking break should be pulled all the way, all the time. But usually carmakers do tests to figure how many 'clicks' it takes to park the car on a predetermined hill.
I'd never heard anyone talk about this until I saw Car Throttle whine about it.
+dansolodan Just what I was thinking.
dansolodan p
I'm glad I can show people this video for the next time this argument comes up.
1:45 he says the words "really fast" as a car whips by him in great speed. nice one!
I always pull it up without pressing the button.. Thug life
1, 2, 3, and to the 4...
+Jasiah Cisco Snoop ratchy ratch and spring replacement's at your door.. haha
+Jhonny Benitez Yo! That is gangsta! Lol
It does sound cool though.
Damn it feels good to be a gangster
Engineering OVERexplained
That's engineering for ya!
some people need it.
More than ten years ago when I was a learner driver, my driving instructor told me that pulling up the handbrake without pressing the button would wear out the mechanism. Since then, I've always pressed the button and when I accidentally make it make a bit of noise or hear someone else pulling up their handbrake fully and making a long grating noise, it makes me wince and think that it's created a bit of damage!
It's so satisfying hearing it click.
+Adrian Cortez lol I think it's rather unsatisfying....
+Adrian Cortez Yeah, I can't stand the noise, even though it's not wearing out anything, it sounds like it. However, the ratchet noise is satisfying.
In Canada at least they teach you in driver training to not push the button to ensure the brake actually engages and is not slipping.
The ratcheting sound is good. It tells the passengers the handbrake has been applied and it's safe to get out of the car. Great for kids who are in a rush to get out of the car i.e "don't open your doors till you hear the handbrake."
Great video. My understanding is exactly yours. However my driving instructor (43 years ago!) told me to press the button in, so I've been doing that for the last 44 years. I admit the silence of the action of applying the handbrake with button depressed is subjectively more 'refined' than the ratchet sound and his car was new-ish so I can kind of understand his reaction, but scientific and logical it was not! You make very enjoyable videos. Subscribed! All the best, Rob in Switzerland.
I never think it's going to break. I just don't like the noise so I've been pushing the button in lol.
i love that sound!!!
Yoshimatsu414 I do the same, for the same reason. Irritating noise.
I like it....
Has your button wore out yet all that extra pressing will be bad for it.
I love the sound lol
My 22yr old corolla (315,000 km) has had the no button hand brake pull from me for the last 21 years. My Dad taught me not to use the button when engaging the hand brake because it may overstretch the cable. I don't know if that's true or not, but I have had discussions with others who argue to depress the button. Lol. Thanks for the clip. Makes perfect sense to me. Love your informative and easy to understand videos. Thanks.
Funny that Car Throttle had this listed as one of the things to never do. Maybe u need to take a trip to UK and talk with him in the tiny bathroom again.
Keep up the great content
Finally! I'm so sick of hearing people saying you should press the button and then pull up and trying to explain to them it causes no harm. I hope this videos get mores views in the coming weeks because people really need to understand this. Parking brakes located in the footwells make the same noise too! Apparently, people lack common sense. Which doesn't seem very common these days.
Also, reading these comments, how is the sound annoying? I suppose starting up the car sounds annoying? Typing on your keyboard sounds annoying? How about the noise your shower makes when it turns on? Seriously, if your response to this is "the sound is annoying," please stick to public transit.
exactly what I was thinking
You're the best youtuber ever.
That's very kind, thank you!!
If you wanna be really pedantic, pushing the button every time you engage the brake will wear out the spring :P
+Cadde And how many tires were worn from just driving??
It should be illegal ...
+Cadde
Good point!! We need to stop sitting on seats
Oh no, come to think of it, my car will wear out if I drive it! I'll just walk, and petition for a ban on cars, cuz you know, they'll wear out if you use them.
+fetB We can only seat on things that don't wear out. Let's seat on water.
+Max Rein Make sure you are bare foot, you don't want to wear out your shoes.
It's like pushing the button when fastening the seatbelt.
+Choujeen Yeah, I've recently come to terms with this, noticed how my handbrake doesn't actually engage well enough unless I click the ratchet at least once.
45 years in the motor trade and never saw one handbrake ratchet replaced ever. had the same snap on ratchet for 30 years approx. still works perfect. Urban myth a bit like "a swan can break your leg with its wing" lol..
The only trouble that I have experienced in my 38 years of driving is that the cables stretch and fail first. I have lived in some hilly areas of the fruited plain, always turn your wheels toward the curb and use your handbrake. I've watched many folks chasing their vehicles down the street. Sam.
Pushing the button involves more moving pieces wich are also more fragile, so I'd say that pushing the button might actually lead to more problems than not pushing it!
+Arthur Tipaldi (rAthur) Lols, that's probably right!
I love how you, very politely, expose people's stupidity with pure knowledge and logic.
What does car throttle have to say about this?
indeed especially alex mlol
Car Throttle made a video and there they said you have to press the button
+Gert Jan Bosma well they're wrong lol.
+AleksSnipes Car Throttle is wrong on a lot of things.
+Ӎiкә Кяāӎӎәя But they are entertaining and make good content
Wouldn't the button just wear out faster instead?
c0c0asauce no it will not. There is no friction being applied on it. How the hell is it going to wear out??? I have that's 50 years old by now and the handbrake still works fine. And the button has never been pressed when pulling it up.
Chin Wee Ow I think he meant if you press the button everytime you set the path brake, the button will wear out, not the ratchet mechanism.
Ryan Borgerding and precisely what I said, there is nothing rubbing against the button. There's an entire layer of it. It'll take centuries for it to wear out.
But there's a spring...
Approximately twice as fast I assume, if you use the ratchet mechanism to engage it and the button to disengage, you're using it half as much! 🤔
1:17 "So, the thing to think about when thinking about wear"...
Thats funny
"-instead of, you know; the way it's actually designed to work."
It's the same when people tell you not to crack your knuckles because so called bad things will happen to your hands, in actual fact, it's more to do with people finding the crunching sound irritating lol.
I crack my knuckles AND I hate when other people to it. Yep.
Yeah, don't eat ice cream, give it to me. :D
I've heard this, but when I crack them too often my hands start hurting. That surely is a sign that it's not a good thing to do.
KapteinFruit When I was younger I used to crack my knuckles alot, one day I actually dislocated the ring finger on my left hand, wasn't nice :-(
Nigel Smith Yeah so it is not good to crack them. People love to tell others they are wrong lol just because they have a bad habit. :P
When he said some people say it can cause unnecessary wear I immediately rolled my eyes.
I just kinda laughed to myself
Well they shouldn't brake either, it cause wear and tear on brake pads
+tokekkk Thats the importance of the word "necessary"
The ratcheting noise of the parking brake is so satisfying.
Right????? it's as relaxing as the sound of a ratchet
The clicks are actually designed to give the driver a feedback how tight he's using the handbrake. You don't have to pull it all the way up everytime - just on let's say down or uphill. On a flat surface you don't need that much brake pressure or don't even use it at all: some say the inserted gear after power off the car is enough to hold it. Personally I prefer to use the handbrake as second guard against rolling...
The cable will snap long before the teeth grind down!
+Da Siver I was just thinking that. :P
Usually they just stretch. Had this happen in my old Honda. Cable stretched too far for adjustments to take up the slack and had to be replaced.
I wore out my handbrake in Tokyo when I was drifting against the grandson of yakuza mafia boss. Should I keep using the e brake while drifting in my fwd car or just use the brakes?
+DreiZ You should use the inertia drift!
Tokyoooooooooooooo drift
+Chola Tech Its front wheel drive, more gas = understeer, you won't be drifting you'll be going straight for the wall. However if it were RWD more gas would be correct. I would just use the hand brake, just look on eBay how much a new hand brake mechanism costs so you know what you are getting into if you damage it. The problem with using your brakes is it gots to all four wheels so I don't see how you could possibly drift by doing that. ALSO are you sure you haven't just worn down your back brakes? Try adjusting your handbrake if you have drum brakes it is incredibly simple you just hit the drum off when you are changing tires and there is a brake adjuster that will let you tighten the hand brake. If you have disk brakes it is a bit more complicated but still not hard just look it up on youtube. I believe +ChrisFix has a video on it.
+ForTheTech Could just go in reverse.
ForTheTech Bro, it`s a joke. F&F 3 - Tokyo Drift - the scene when Han is teaching Sean to drift :D
car throttle = REKT
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I somehow avoided that advice for a long time, and the first time someone finally gave it to me they phrased it in a way that left me with the impression that yeah it's designed for that and all, so it's not actually hurting anything, but they personally just liked doing that because it felt like taking slightly better care of their car, with something easy. Now I do it for the same reason. I just like feeling like I'm being more gentle with my car. And it certainly doesn't hurt, right?
+thesourceofx doesn't hurt, just doesn't matter either way. :)
+thesourceofx
But what about added wear on the finish of the button!?!?! or wear on the spring for the button!?!?!
+thesourceofx Well pushing the button in may not engage the teeth completely.. so if you are on a steep hill dont push the button in
+Justin Therieau Asking the real questions!
+Engineering Explained Yeah I completely agree. It's at best an illusion of caring for me car, haha.
I've never used in the button in my 93' Fox Mustang, the only way I feel comfortable about it being activated is if I can actually hear the mechanical action.
I've done this in videos without paying attention so many times and the comment section is 99% having a go at me for it. Thank you for this. I can sleep at night now.
I feel bad that you even had to make a video about this...
+Ashton Murch it started because of Car Throttle's new video
I've never pressed the button when applying the Handbrake! In fact, I never even knew people could think this was wrong! It just feels weird applying it with the button pressed!
This is a tip I learned years ago, before you pull the handbrake on press the footbrake hard .This pre applies the brake pads or shoes against the disc or drum and increases the efficiency of the handbrake application needing less effort and less stress on the mechanism.
If you’re pulling up the handbrake, you’re probably already stopped with your foot on the brake, meaning the pads are already contacting the rotors. Pushing harder on the pedal shouldn’t have much effect on the work the handbrake has to do, apart from some negligible flex in the braking system.
i still push the button when i pull the parking brake because i simply hate hearing the " kkrrrrraaaaaaakk"
I actually like it,it feel like it have gear for me,1-2 click for flat traffic jam 3-4 for uphill traffic jam and always use 4 click for park
I don't know but it's oddly satisfying to me.
alex febrianoo oh, this sounds useful
But that's the best part! It's half the fun of owning a manual!
+Jordan Toth Auto has those parking brakes too
Car throttle...you watching this!!!!!
Brilliant explanation with that ratchet wrench! That totally busted the myth for me!
I know it doesn't cause wear. I just hate hearing the clicking on a parking brake for whatever reason (yet I don't mind it on a ratchet)
+djhero0071 same
+djhero0071 I love that sound.
i love the sound of the handbrake :D
One more thing to add to the video; these parts are grinding with very very little force; the hammer is just resting on the teeth with very small spring tension, and when you pull the lever, it just drops lightly on the next tooth then the next, etc. Besides, this is all steel to steel sliding, even if you do this everyday for hours for ten years you will not see any change
People just need to argue, man. No logic required :D Cheers for the video!
A problem of pulling it with the button depressed is that you don't get the feedback to tell you it is fully engaged. If it lands on a tooth instead of between teeth, you might not realise it and if your cable is a bit worn or loose that could mean that your car isn't adequately secured against rolling off on an incline
Does the omission of the back seat help when applying the parking brake?
I totally agree that, on a well designed and built hand/parking brake the ratchet should be used as you describe. However, wear is not caused solely by heat. I once drove a van where the pawl of the hand/parking brake was made of mild steel working on a hardened ratchet and it did wear out. Cheap and not correctly designed, but cheap enough to replace.
it work pretty much like a bike cassette!
works*
free wheel body
+George-Alex Psathas yea but cassettes wear out tho and start skipping
+Karlis Miezis Mostly due to dirt etc getting on the chain so friction/heat increases - this wouldnt happen on a handbrake :P
No, it just doesn't
I just love the sound it makes.
typically its not the ratchet mechanism that wears out as shown in the video, but this method usually results in stretching of the handbrake cable itself. even if only over done by one or two teeth at a time it can still cause the cable to stretch, some people have a tendency to pull the lever harder than they need to when not using the button. most people will hit the same spot all the time which means that there isn't any noticeable stretch of the cable, however some people pull the lever unnecessarily hard and stretch the cable needing it to be replaced. it seems like people have been miss informed by someone at some point as to what actually wears out, could have been car garages trying to make some extra money by duping customers
Wait... there was myth? I thought it was common knowledge to only press the button when releasing the handbrake.
they're actual retards that chose not to push it for some wierd reason, not sure why
Covert Person It sounds bad if u dont press the button.
Does not make a difference if you do or do not.
the video would have no real purpose if there wasn't some "myth" to bust. He does this myth busting in other videos too.
@@shivinshivin3372 actually it sounds pretty cool when I hear it. On my car as well as the others
You’d be surprised the amount of ill informed people deeply believe it breaks the car 🙄🤣
Anyone else actually enjoy the sound of the socket wrench being used?
+EyesOnThe2.5i I really angered my small engines teacher by "helicoptering" socket wrenches. That sound was just too awesome for me.
+EyesOnThe2.5i Yes. And I like the sound of the handbrake ratcheting as well.
+GemCat I angered my sex-ed teacher by "helicoptering" something else.
Hello there!
I think there might be a small opportunity for misconception on the problem stated here and the solution given.
I just spend a good portion of the afternoon fixing my handbrake and I had to do a bit or learning for it.
It might be that the part that has led to the idea that the hand brake wears out is not the ratchet mechanism itself but the connection to the actuator button.
In the handbrake mechanism for my car (golf a4) The button assembly is a long piston like rod that has the button on one side and on the other one is connected to the ratchet lever by means of a small indentation. The ratchet lever goes trough a small hole in the rod and it is not connected directly, but just sit there loosely. Every time the button us pushed it moves the lever of the ratchet and unlocks the position, but if the ratchet is run without pressing the button it bounces and jiggles freely in that hole, hammering slightly at the rod with the force of the ratchet's spring on each step. The problem here is that this rod is made of plastic, and the ratchet lever is metal. I don't think the ratchet or its lever would ever get worn out significantly during the normal use of the car. But the union of the button's rod and ratchet's lever certainly could, that's what happened on my car, it broke right there, you could tell by the pattern in which the piece cracked. A small metal piece hammering at a rigid plastic part over years would certainly cause a problem.
I saw that the button assembly in your car appears to be a metal rod and has no access to the point of contact from that rod to the ratchet lever. But that is not the only mechanism there is for handbrakes. My car has access to that joint point, and, when I was looking for the parts to fix my handbrake I found a lot of others from different brands and makers that also use a plastic rod or had a similar approach. Also, I think the fact that they sell that piece individually and not the whole assembly is another clue to the fact that there is a weak point there.
I am certain that holding the button would prevent or delay the wear on that piece, and my car would not had needed to be fixed now if we had done that as a precaution.
Of course there are lots of caveats. In my case it took almost 20 years for that piece to break down. Also, I live in a very hot place, and my car is dark. The heat has certainly weaken every plastic inside my car over the years.
Now while I know holding the button would help, I don't know if it is worth it to do it to avoid breaking that part. Or if its worth to be aware of that potential damage. For me, It took oh so long to break down, and I definitely love the handbrake ratchet's sound and feel, also to change that piece was an easy fix.
However, I certainly know that the idea of not pressing the button causing wear and the potential to break the handbrake because of it is true.
At least for many makers and brands and under certain fairly common conditions.
I just wanted to let what I learn be known. To give some context or maybe justification to some of the comments and ideas about the handbrake.
Though I am sure many of those that defend the point of holding the button and think that the ratchet would get damaged are wrong for the reasons you explained maybe my findings can help give some light to the origins of the myth. Or why is not really a myth to begin with, but has a different mechanism of wear than the one commonly believed.
Other thing, when I went to the mechanic at the dealership to try to get my handbrake fixed, they told me they would need to replace the whole piece, not just the button's rod. I am not sure if they told me this out of ignorance on the workings of the part or if they wanted to sell more, but I think this is also a good example of why would people believe that not pressing the button causes damage in the whole handbrake ratchet mechanism.
I hope my explanation was clear and that it was useful, also hope that Jason gets to see my comment and it doesn't get lost in the sea of notifications haha
Thank you very much, I'm a long time fan, I really enjoy the videos!
Hope none of the people who say this is bad have ever ridden roller coasters. The exact same mechanism is used as a fail safe, that's the "click, click, click" sound you hear going up hill.
Exactly my friend. But probably 90% of people that thinks this is wearing the handbrake are too pussies to even ride a roller coaster lol.
I CAN FINALLY PULL MY HAND BRAKES AND NOT FEEL BAD!
It's such a low usage part too. How often does an E-brake get used during normal operation? Once when you stop, maybe once when you hit a real bad hill and you aren't too confident in your hill start abilities. You use a part that little, you don't have to worry so much about it wearing out. I'm glad you broke out a socket wrench too, that's exactly what I was thinking about.
In Russia we are actually taught in driving schools to never push a button on a handbrake on its way up
Yeah but....Russia's known worldwide for having the worse drivers in the world.
still going to press the button cuz i hate the sound.
Thank so much for this video. I hate people who tell others to always press the handbrake button.
I didn't know people actually worry about things like that lmao.
Tell car throttle, they think it is wrong.
In the U.K., the advanced motorist training also says press the button and would mark you down if you did. When asked why, they say it is to stop wear. Like in the video, I replied, "When was the last time you heard someone say they had to get their car into a garage to change the handbrake mechanism" which shut them up but they still mark against it. Love the ratchet spanner analogy, wish I'd thought of that.
i just push the button cause i dont like the sound
Same
and that should be the only reason people push it :) not because of 'wear' -.-
+Gregory Evans Dude, you wear out the button that way.
same
+Green Black all the more reason to install a DRIFT BUTTON
cat throttle... shots fired